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Speaker 2: We've been talking about the plight of the part of

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Speaker 2: our brewing company. It has lost its right to sell

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Speaker 2: alcohol after a drawn out battle over noise complaints from

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Speaker 2: its neighbors. Joining us on the phone right now is

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Speaker 2: the owner of the brewing company, Zen Good Girardi, Zen,

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Speaker 2: very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 4: We're hearing a lot of positive feedback around your bar

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Speaker 4: coming through on the text machine and phones. Congratulations on that.

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Speaker 4: Now you've mentioned curfews, soundproofing, and you've got a noise

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Speaker 4: management plan going on. What do you think the district

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Speaker 4: Licensing Committee still found your efforts insufficient?

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Speaker 3: So be what they have in their decision. What they

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Speaker 3: have said that we have partly implemented the NMP the

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Speaker 3: noise management plans, but I think they have got it wrong.

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Speaker 3: Said was that some of the bands that we have

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Speaker 3: already booked, we cannot change them. And the ones that

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Speaker 3: are we are already booking them, they are already part

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Speaker 3: of the the new noise management plan. So the curfew

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Speaker 3: that we're talking about eleven some of the bands they

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Speaker 3: might finish at a quarter past eleven. Most of the

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Speaker 3: gigs they are finished by eleven thirty anyways. But the

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Speaker 3: new as but the new plan that we have provided.

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Speaker 3: In fact, we have most of our bands, we tell

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Speaker 3: them ten ten thirty and the maximum they can go

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Speaker 3: is to eleven. Another thing was the noise limits. They

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Speaker 3: call it up, but it's we already have a sound

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Speaker 3: technician who is looking after it, and he's in full

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Speaker 3: control of the sound that we have now. Hence, uh

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Speaker 3: so it's all under control. But most of the things

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Speaker 3: that I feel is very the decision seems to be

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Speaker 3: very excessive and oppressive, to be honest, Well, what.

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Speaker 4: Do you what do you say to those residents who

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Speaker 4: are saying that that the noise is I mean, they've

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Speaker 4: my claims, disrupted their health and well being even after

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Speaker 4: your changes. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's fear?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: In the in the hearing, I went myself and I

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Speaker 3: say that we empathize with them. So there is nothing

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Speaker 3: against those neighbors. One particular house that we're talking about

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Speaker 3: here is I mean, the neighbors next door or around

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Speaker 3: the particular objectives are pretty happy. They are our regular patrons,

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Speaker 3: and yes, we have been working with them. They have

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Speaker 3: my direct number, they can call me, email me any time,

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Speaker 3: they can have meetings. They have said it that they

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Speaker 3: have met me eleven times, but to be honest, they

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Speaker 3: have only made me once. And we are we haven't

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Speaker 3: taking mitigating efforts to you know, to make it happen

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Speaker 3: for them. But they if they think that it's going

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Speaker 3: to happen overnight, I mean it's a big place, seven

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Speaker 3: of the meters we're talking about, and just imagine having

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Speaker 3: changes soundproofing the old place which we have been working on.

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Speaker 3: I have spent considerable amount of money already tens of

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Speaker 3: thousands of dollars so far, and we are committed to

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Speaker 3: spend more money on it. But it's it's it's a

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Speaker 3: work in progress. And also the sound part of it,

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Speaker 3: it's not that it's more of a trial and error.

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Speaker 3: It takes time. Hence the NMPB say that it's a

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Speaker 3: trial and error. It's it's it's partly implemented and these

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Speaker 3: things attuniation of sound and everything will take time. It's

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Speaker 3: not going to happen overnight. And that's what I think

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Speaker 3: the decision. I think that is gone wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the the neighbors in question that are behind the

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Speaker 2: vast majority of not all of these complaints in Do

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Speaker 2: you think they are being reasonable here and trying to

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Speaker 2: solve this or do you suspect that the end game

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Speaker 2: for them will be closing you down? If snow butts

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Speaker 2: that's what they want.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think they want us to be closed,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, but we have been very hyper sensitive.

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Speaker 3: That's I think the right word. In their hearing and

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Speaker 3: the hearing itself, they see that they don't want us

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Speaker 3: to be closed down, So I won't be talking anything else.

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Speaker 3: All they want is us to, you know, do what

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Speaker 3: we are supposed to do, and we are doing what

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Speaker 3: we are supposed to do. So I don't know what

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Speaker 3: went wrong there, but the committee, the DLA we have.

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Speaker 3: What I think is that noise given a very the

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Speaker 3: very advanced part of being of alcohol, I think they

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Speaker 3: are trying to still make some some ruling around it

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Speaker 3: and we are just happened to be one of the scapegoats.

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Speaker 3: Or I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Right now now. If you're a Peel Files, what options

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Speaker 4: do you do you have for the business? Would you

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Speaker 4: consider moving changing your format or would you would you

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Speaker 4: have to have to shut down if they are peel files.

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Speaker 3: I mean, see the business. We have been here five

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Speaker 3: years now and COVID. We just opened just before COVID.

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Speaker 3: Then there was aftermath of COVID. A couple of years

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Speaker 3: were good, and then the restation came in and it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's just hard and hard, and I'm getting tired

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Speaker 3: of this whole thing. And then comes this the alcohol

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Speaker 3: licenses and everything. But the business has survived so far

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Speaker 3: and we are trying to survive and hopefully if the

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Speaker 3: appeal appeal should go our way, and if not, then

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Speaker 3: I can't see anything, to be honest, I mean, we

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Speaker 3: can just hang our boots, to be.

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Speaker 4: Honest, and I think that would be from what I'm

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Speaker 4: reading from a bunch of takes that are coming through

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Speaker 4: as you talk, I think that would be a real

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Speaker 4: loss for for for the community in the area. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's also a community hub, isn't it. There's there's

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Speaker 4: a bunch of other stuff that you do in there.

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Speaker 4: There aren't just bands and and you know, entertainment.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we are closely working with the Fund College

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Speaker 3: who have their school things happening. There are so many

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Speaker 3: other things that we do with the community. I mean

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Speaker 3: there's a line dancing, there's salta dancing, so that's it's.

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Speaker 3: I mean we call ourselves ourselves social house, and it's

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Speaker 3: it's if you see a remodel from the d one

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Speaker 3: was is actually that your house is our house. So

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Speaker 3: that has been a daylight. So the community loves us.

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Speaker 3: Everybody loves us, and in fact we are trying our

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Speaker 3: best that our objectives would love us as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Zen, all the very best to you for

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Speaker 2: the appeal and hope that goes well. You clearly do

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Speaker 2: have community support there, so all the very best and

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Speaker 2: hopefully you don't have to close down yet.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this. We're in our seventies. This place is great.

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Speaker 4: We've only been there about five or six times, but

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Speaker 4: greatly you not extremely loud as the first time we're

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Speaker 4: there a couple of years ago. The entertainment is great

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Speaker 4: and usually people there are more of the mature side

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Speaker 4: forties and up. It's a very well run, well behaved place.

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Speaker 4: Lots of great people there, ask Susan Paul. I've seen

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Speaker 4: her there a few times. A great wace to go

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Speaker 4: out without having to go into the city you go,

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Speaker 4: nice Love it.

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