1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:12,693 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks B follow 2 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:17,133 --> 00:00:20,693 Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you. Some great texts coming through 4 00:00:20,773 --> 00:00:23,453 Speaker 2: on how easy it is to buy drugs on social media. 5 00:00:23,493 --> 00:00:26,773 Speaker 2: Great story in the Herald saying that it is incredibly common. 6 00:00:26,813 --> 00:00:29,773 Speaker 2: This text is my whole life. Guys. Cannabis has been 7 00:00:29,813 --> 00:00:32,293 Speaker 2: a grubby illegal drug. So it's a real mind flip 8 00:00:32,333 --> 00:00:34,533 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five to be holding a container of 9 00:00:34,613 --> 00:00:37,093 Speaker 2: cannabis flower that sees medicine. 10 00:00:37,853 --> 00:00:41,693 Speaker 3: Stop being so pathetic and alarmist. Who cares where people 11 00:00:41,693 --> 00:00:44,532 Speaker 3: get their drugs? If you enjoy a class, that's your business. 12 00:00:45,013 --> 00:00:48,172 Speaker 3: The easier the better. I still at the cash I 13 00:00:48,253 --> 00:00:51,772 Speaker 3: still get the cash out of the money machine. It's dodgy. 14 00:00:51,812 --> 00:00:55,573 Speaker 3: As my accountant keeps asking why all three hundred buck withdrawals. 15 00:00:55,933 --> 00:00:57,333 Speaker 3: Sorry I botched the reading of that. 16 00:00:57,613 --> 00:00:59,653 Speaker 2: But that is I mean, that's a party person right there. 17 00:00:59,773 --> 00:01:02,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, so as this person right that, you know, people 18 00:01:02,213 --> 00:01:05,013 Speaker 3: are buying drugs. They always have by bought drugs. People 19 00:01:05,053 --> 00:01:08,413 Speaker 3: are just freaking out now because it's on Facebook. Is 20 00:01:08,453 --> 00:01:11,413 Speaker 3: that any worse than someone getting cash out and meeting 21 00:01:11,413 --> 00:01:14,813 Speaker 3: a dealer on the street House as it just this 22 00:01:14,893 --> 00:01:16,453 Speaker 3: it's just a new way people are doing it, and 23 00:01:16,493 --> 00:01:18,573 Speaker 3: someone saying they do it on Tinder as well, So yeah, 24 00:01:18,613 --> 00:01:21,293 Speaker 3: you know, is it really are we just being pathetic 25 00:01:21,333 --> 00:01:24,453 Speaker 3: and alarmist? John, Welcome to the show. 26 00:01:25,093 --> 00:01:25,533 Speaker 4: Follows a. 27 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:28,173 Speaker 3: Very good thank you. 28 00:01:29,053 --> 00:01:31,773 Speaker 4: Hey. So I think there's a pit of confusion. So 29 00:01:33,133 --> 00:01:36,572 Speaker 4: it's not as easy as as you're apts kind of. 30 00:01:37,932 --> 00:01:41,533 Speaker 4: It's not just jump on Marketplace and you'll have instant 31 00:01:41,572 --> 00:01:48,133 Speaker 4: access to the market of a llegal that's on. They 32 00:01:48,213 --> 00:01:53,093 Speaker 4: run Missing John groups, so you've got to get vouched 33 00:01:53,773 --> 00:01:56,973 Speaker 4: to these groups and then that's when you'll have access 34 00:01:57,413 --> 00:01:59,733 Speaker 4: to anything anything you want. 35 00:02:00,173 --> 00:02:03,613 Speaker 3: Right, So like a WhatsApp group or a Facebook message group. 36 00:02:03,653 --> 00:02:08,613 Speaker 4: That's like that's like they say, it's a quick but 37 00:02:08,693 --> 00:02:14,053 Speaker 4: I can guarantee that the police do monitor. But that's 38 00:02:14,053 --> 00:02:17,813 Speaker 4: that's totally If you've got a friend that's already on this, 39 00:02:18,413 --> 00:02:21,972 Speaker 4: on one of these pages make there's hundreds of them, 40 00:02:22,252 --> 00:02:24,333 Speaker 4: you can get anything like like you said, you can 41 00:02:24,373 --> 00:02:31,453 Speaker 4: get we cocaine with guns, tases, man, you can even 42 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:35,813 Speaker 4: you can even get like shoppers. They call them chopper pages. 43 00:02:35,813 --> 00:02:38,572 Speaker 4: So you you send them your list and people go 44 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:43,692 Speaker 4: and they get shopping for you at half the price. 45 00:02:44,933 --> 00:02:48,412 Speaker 3: Any shopping for what anything, or. 46 00:02:48,133 --> 00:02:51,893 Speaker 4: For like food, like people call them, people call them 47 00:02:51,933 --> 00:02:55,693 Speaker 4: meat runs. So they'll say like I want like five 48 00:02:55,853 --> 00:02:59,053 Speaker 4: lands ten roasts and that they they'll they'll go do 49 00:02:59,173 --> 00:03:01,853 Speaker 4: the run and it'll be like the value of Yeah, 50 00:03:01,933 --> 00:03:04,373 Speaker 4: they'll be like a value of say a thousand dollars 51 00:03:04,613 --> 00:03:08,293 Speaker 4: and then they'll go for four hundred and then maybe 52 00:03:08,373 --> 00:03:10,613 Speaker 4: on the job. How do you people just how. 53 00:03:10,532 --> 00:03:12,613 Speaker 3: Do you get vouched into the situation? How do you 54 00:03:12,613 --> 00:03:17,132 Speaker 3: get invited into one of these these sort of threads, these. 55 00:03:17,053 --> 00:03:19,853 Speaker 4: Chats, So just one of one of your friends just say, like, 56 00:03:21,532 --> 00:03:23,893 Speaker 4: just say, like I followers, I find new us quite well, 57 00:03:23,972 --> 00:03:27,333 Speaker 4: and I was part of it. I could say, can 58 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:30,252 Speaker 4: I add Matt blah blah blah into this group? I 59 00:03:30,373 --> 00:03:32,733 Speaker 4: dot for him, and then the admin will go up 60 00:03:32,733 --> 00:03:35,293 Speaker 4: to sweep and then they'll just the log is in 61 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:39,573 Speaker 4: and then man's about in. Yeah, and you just go 62 00:03:40,253 --> 00:03:44,533 Speaker 4: You could just okay shopping whatever you need. But like 63 00:03:44,573 --> 00:03:47,293 Speaker 4: I said, you know the class is that's that's easy. Yes, 64 00:03:47,973 --> 00:03:51,413 Speaker 4: you get the convenience of someone just dropping it off 65 00:03:51,413 --> 00:03:52,653 Speaker 4: street to your front door. 66 00:03:52,493 --> 00:03:54,693 Speaker 3: Right, because how is it delivered and how do you 67 00:03:54,733 --> 00:03:57,893 Speaker 3: work work how the conditions of delivery worked out, because 68 00:03:57,893 --> 00:04:00,373 Speaker 3: imagine that's that that's the biggest risk for people that 69 00:04:00,373 --> 00:04:02,053 Speaker 3: are selling it as that point of delivery. 70 00:04:02,893 --> 00:04:04,733 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then that's where it comes down to a 71 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:09,053 Speaker 4: bit of trust. And I've known individuals that only work 72 00:04:09,093 --> 00:04:12,373 Speaker 4: off certain people online where they've they've gained a bit 73 00:04:12,453 --> 00:04:16,493 Speaker 4: of trust online and they'll only use them as their supplies. 74 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:19,253 Speaker 4: So what they'll do is that they'll just meet up, 75 00:04:19,333 --> 00:04:22,293 Speaker 4: say down at the gas station or at the supermarket 76 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:26,053 Speaker 4: in the car park, and yeah, just do the transaction now. 77 00:04:26,173 --> 00:04:29,373 Speaker 4: And but you kind of gain trust over over time 78 00:04:29,413 --> 00:04:32,813 Speaker 4: if you're continuously using I said, an individual, you know, 79 00:04:33,013 --> 00:04:36,493 Speaker 4: And that's all it comes down to is just building 80 00:04:36,493 --> 00:04:39,173 Speaker 4: their trust with the individual. And the funny thing is 81 00:04:39,173 --> 00:04:42,973 Speaker 4: is that these pages have kind of driven the market down. 82 00:04:42,773 --> 00:04:47,133 Speaker 4: In the weed game, people used to pay three fifty 83 00:04:47,213 --> 00:04:49,293 Speaker 4: four to fifty got to a point where it's like 84 00:04:49,373 --> 00:04:51,773 Speaker 4: up to five hundred dollars for an ounce. Man, now 85 00:04:51,773 --> 00:04:54,453 Speaker 4: you're picking it up for like two hundred bucks, you know. Easy. 86 00:04:54,493 --> 00:04:56,973 Speaker 4: You can pick up a pound the weed easy. Yeah. 87 00:04:57,413 --> 00:05:01,053 Speaker 4: It's just so yeah, But as I said, I think 88 00:05:01,333 --> 00:05:04,253 Speaker 4: that's yeah, I think that's where the confusion is. What 89 00:05:04,453 --> 00:05:07,973 Speaker 4: the herald is that this guy that's been convicted saying 90 00:05:07,973 --> 00:05:11,173 Speaker 4: it's face book, he's just relating these message of groups 91 00:05:11,213 --> 00:05:14,893 Speaker 4: with Facebook. Obviously they're work side by side. Say that's 92 00:05:14,933 --> 00:05:18,413 Speaker 4: where the confusion is. But yeah, so. 93 00:05:18,253 --> 00:05:20,973 Speaker 2: How do you know John that it's not going to 94 00:05:21,053 --> 00:05:23,133 Speaker 2: be cut with something that if you're going for something 95 00:05:23,173 --> 00:05:26,053 Speaker 2: like cocaine or n dm A, that you're getting a 96 00:05:26,093 --> 00:05:28,373 Speaker 2: product that is not going to have some fillers in it. 97 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:30,453 Speaker 2: I suppose that's part of the trust situation. 98 00:05:31,373 --> 00:05:35,213 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so what you you kind of see other 99 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:39,773 Speaker 4: people giving the mob for so you can ask the question, 100 00:05:40,293 --> 00:05:42,293 Speaker 4: like you say, just say, like if Matt was like 101 00:05:42,453 --> 00:05:45,053 Speaker 4: the guy and you're just saying you're you're you're Chopper's 102 00:05:45,093 --> 00:05:47,773 Speaker 4: hand or one of the features like help trustworthy is 103 00:05:47,813 --> 00:05:50,693 Speaker 4: Matt you know, the hundred percent And then everyone is 104 00:05:50,733 --> 00:05:53,093 Speaker 4: just you're just yeah, and then you'll just see everyone 105 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:55,933 Speaker 4: bumping up, you know, they're saying giving them the thumbs up, Yes, 106 00:05:55,973 --> 00:05:58,693 Speaker 4: this is good, good, good good, and then you're off 107 00:05:59,013 --> 00:06:00,373 Speaker 4: and it's have. 108 00:06:00,373 --> 00:06:02,773 Speaker 3: You have you heard of anyone getting busted? You know, 109 00:06:03,053 --> 00:06:04,013 Speaker 3: and one of these. 110 00:06:03,853 --> 00:06:07,373 Speaker 4: Groups in all honestly, no, I haven't heard no one, 111 00:06:07,453 --> 00:06:11,053 Speaker 4: no one. I've seen I've seen guys on their page 112 00:06:11,093 --> 00:06:14,973 Speaker 4: for like years, bro, like and they're making they're making bank, 113 00:06:15,093 --> 00:06:18,973 Speaker 4: you know. And yeah, yeah, it's definitely a market you 114 00:06:18,973 --> 00:06:23,053 Speaker 4: know where it's like I said, it's as convenient as 115 00:06:23,533 --> 00:06:26,133 Speaker 4: to your front door, you know, and it's the guys 116 00:06:26,133 --> 00:06:28,613 Speaker 4: will be there quicker than uber. Man. You know, you 117 00:06:28,933 --> 00:06:32,213 Speaker 4: can order, you can order. You can order a pound 118 00:06:32,253 --> 00:06:35,093 Speaker 4: a week faster than what you can do a pizza. 119 00:06:35,253 --> 00:06:38,933 Speaker 4: That's how quicker as r wow. So yeah, like there's 120 00:06:39,213 --> 00:06:41,813 Speaker 4: there's any any questions you need to ask, man, I'm 121 00:06:42,213 --> 00:06:44,733 Speaker 4: I'm more than happy to tell you guys. 122 00:06:45,493 --> 00:06:47,533 Speaker 3: Man than thank you, thank you, thank you so much 123 00:06:47,533 --> 00:06:49,813 Speaker 3: for sharing. Have you hit anything around the dark web. 124 00:06:51,333 --> 00:06:53,693 Speaker 4: That's a whole lot of mumbo jumbo. Man. You know, 125 00:06:53,893 --> 00:06:57,613 Speaker 4: I've heard, I've heard rumors, I've seen guys activated. But man, 126 00:06:57,613 --> 00:07:01,573 Speaker 4: that's only if you're looking for like like tanks and 127 00:07:01,773 --> 00:07:04,213 Speaker 4: you know, crazy crazy stuff. Man. You know, we're like 128 00:07:05,213 --> 00:07:09,373 Speaker 4: a python like like like you know, only look, it's 129 00:07:09,413 --> 00:07:13,373 Speaker 4: only a humus ever devil into that world, you know. 130 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:17,293 Speaker 4: It's but like I said, man, these messenger pages man, 131 00:07:17,373 --> 00:07:19,933 Speaker 4: there it's bonkers, you know, it was, it was the 132 00:07:19,933 --> 00:07:24,733 Speaker 4: first time I've seen the shoppers picked. That was the 133 00:07:24,773 --> 00:07:27,453 Speaker 4: one that really I was like, man, that's what's going 134 00:07:27,453 --> 00:07:31,613 Speaker 4: on here, you know. But yeah, people will put up 135 00:07:31,613 --> 00:07:35,173 Speaker 4: a list, say like even like toys and stuff will close, 136 00:07:35,853 --> 00:07:38,453 Speaker 4: so they'll put up a list of clothes and they say, 137 00:07:39,053 --> 00:07:41,693 Speaker 4: if you can fulfill this order, we will give you 138 00:07:41,733 --> 00:07:42,933 Speaker 4: five hundred dollars. 139 00:07:43,293 --> 00:07:46,573 Speaker 2: Were you then, yeah, this is great chatting with you, John. 140 00:07:46,613 --> 00:07:49,453 Speaker 2: Would you get into trouble and whether or not you're 141 00:07:49,493 --> 00:07:51,613 Speaker 2: involved in these groups, but would you get into trouble? 142 00:07:51,613 --> 00:07:53,813 Speaker 2: You're in this group and a mate who's outside and 143 00:07:53,853 --> 00:07:56,653 Speaker 2: says to your hey, I'd really like some cannabis. So 144 00:07:56,733 --> 00:07:59,733 Speaker 2: you sort them out through the group and you take 145 00:07:59,773 --> 00:08:01,213 Speaker 2: a little bit of a cut from him. Would that 146 00:08:01,293 --> 00:08:03,253 Speaker 2: get you in the in trouble with the group? 147 00:08:04,053 --> 00:08:07,933 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's literally as long as the main guy gets 148 00:08:07,973 --> 00:08:13,293 Speaker 4: those whose you know, lion's share of the building. Whatever 149 00:08:13,373 --> 00:08:16,573 Speaker 4: you do on the side, that's entirely up to yourself, 150 00:08:16,653 --> 00:08:18,813 Speaker 4: you know. But nine times out of ten men and 151 00:08:19,053 --> 00:08:22,533 Speaker 4: is so cheap you really don't need to You really 152 00:08:22,533 --> 00:08:25,013 Speaker 4: don't need to add an extra fifty and it's not 153 00:08:25,053 --> 00:08:28,493 Speaker 4: really worth it, you know. Yeah, doing that extra fifty dollars. 154 00:08:28,533 --> 00:08:31,453 Speaker 4: You know, it's just it's kind of just accepting the 155 00:08:32,653 --> 00:08:35,333 Speaker 4: price for what it is, you know. And like I said, 156 00:08:35,333 --> 00:08:38,293 Speaker 4: you know, the market as royal low at the moment 157 00:08:38,373 --> 00:08:42,612 Speaker 4: for especially wheaed man. Yes, there's so much out there, 158 00:08:42,773 --> 00:08:47,413 Speaker 4: there's Yeah, there's just so much out there. The market 159 00:08:47,573 --> 00:08:51,653 Speaker 4: is as pumping at the moment, and people are lining 160 00:08:51,732 --> 00:08:55,693 Speaker 4: up to benefit of the of the cheap weed that's 161 00:08:55,732 --> 00:08:57,853 Speaker 4: sitting up there. Like you're not going to go to 162 00:08:58,012 --> 00:09:00,093 Speaker 4: somewhere where you're going to pay three hundred and fifty 163 00:09:00,372 --> 00:09:02,453 Speaker 4: where you can get the exact same quality for two 164 00:09:02,533 --> 00:09:06,492 Speaker 4: hundred dollars, you know. Yeah, that's just how the market is. 165 00:09:07,333 --> 00:09:10,693 Speaker 3: Absolutely. But say you're in the script and you're talking 166 00:09:10,693 --> 00:09:12,933 Speaker 3: about there there's a bit of shoplifting in there. There's 167 00:09:13,173 --> 00:09:15,133 Speaker 3: there's a bit of cannabis in there. If someone comes 168 00:09:15,213 --> 00:09:18,933 Speaker 3: in with something that's outrageous, is it limits to it? 169 00:09:19,012 --> 00:09:19,173 Speaker 4: Is it? 170 00:09:19,252 --> 00:09:21,333 Speaker 3: You know, as you say, you know, the python on 171 00:09:21,372 --> 00:09:23,932 Speaker 3: the dark. But if something if you're in one of 172 00:09:23,973 --> 00:09:26,213 Speaker 3: these chats and someone says I want to buy an 173 00:09:26,213 --> 00:09:29,252 Speaker 3: automatic rifle, you know, is that is that? 174 00:09:29,413 --> 00:09:29,892 Speaker 1: Is that? 175 00:09:30,132 --> 00:09:30,293 Speaker 4: Is that? 176 00:09:30,453 --> 00:09:32,372 Speaker 3: Just like this is this isn't the this isn't one 177 00:09:32,453 --> 00:09:34,413 Speaker 3: that this isn't one of the chats about Sorry. 178 00:09:34,892 --> 00:09:39,213 Speaker 4: No, it's definitely not from the pomp. That's that's something 179 00:09:39,333 --> 00:09:44,293 Speaker 4: that is. That's it's normal. They do handguns. I know 180 00:09:44,372 --> 00:09:47,293 Speaker 4: your teaser situation pretty well. How how they get it 181 00:09:47,293 --> 00:09:49,693 Speaker 4: into New Zealand. They get them ship straight to your house. 182 00:09:50,892 --> 00:09:53,133 Speaker 4: That's the funny thing here. Like you, you hear all 183 00:09:53,173 --> 00:09:56,413 Speaker 4: these stories about the New Zealand police potentially being on 184 00:09:56,492 --> 00:10:02,093 Speaker 4: top of what these people are doing. But man, I've 185 00:10:02,173 --> 00:10:04,693 Speaker 4: seen it. I've witnessed it happened, and I've seen it. 186 00:10:04,813 --> 00:10:08,213 Speaker 4: Not just one teaser. I've seen someone by like fifty 187 00:10:08,413 --> 00:10:12,853 Speaker 4: in one job. Yeah, that's it's it's just so easy, 188 00:10:13,012 --> 00:10:16,293 Speaker 4: you know. But like I said, it comes down to 189 00:10:16,453 --> 00:10:20,333 Speaker 4: being vouched into these pages. And then once you get 190 00:10:20,413 --> 00:10:25,293 Speaker 4: vouched and you you you you get you get put 191 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:29,053 Speaker 4: forward to every other page that gets opened. So someone 192 00:10:29,132 --> 00:10:32,132 Speaker 4: opens up a new page, they will take your your 193 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:35,053 Speaker 4: your handle over to the new pages, so on and 194 00:10:35,053 --> 00:10:38,413 Speaker 4: so on and so on, and then you're constantly getting 195 00:10:39,852 --> 00:10:43,453 Speaker 4: added to all these different Facebook please Messinger groups. 196 00:10:44,492 --> 00:10:48,052 Speaker 2: So fascinating to chat with you. Thank you very much 197 00:10:48,093 --> 00:10:49,733 Speaker 2: for giving us a buzz and giving us some insight. 198 00:10:50,573 --> 00:10:55,333 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's us just uh yeah, that's the guy that's 199 00:10:55,453 --> 00:10:57,933 Speaker 4: being convicted. Just opened it up to the new deal 200 00:10:57,973 --> 00:11:00,412 Speaker 4: and neural budget and was ring up to you. 201 00:11:02,293 --> 00:11:04,172 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, good fellows. Yeah you have a 202 00:11:04,213 --> 00:11:04,772 Speaker 2: good afternoon. 203 00:11:04,773 --> 00:11:04,933 Speaker 4: Man. 204 00:11:05,453 --> 00:11:08,013 Speaker 1: For more from us Talks a B listen live on 205 00:11:08,573 --> 00:11:11,253 Speaker 1: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you 206 00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:13,772 Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.