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Speaker 2: What about building towards a busy sporting weekend? Look do

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Speaker 2: we say this every week? I think on a Thursday

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Speaker 2: or a Friday there is so much on, But I

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Speaker 2: actually think for this weekend, there is so much, so much,

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Speaker 2: so much on. How we're going to divide our attention.

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Speaker 3: I try what we did last week just and the

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Speaker 3: week before the week before. Run several devices, several screens,

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Speaker 3: read a lot of reports, listen to the radio, and

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Speaker 3: hope for the best.

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Speaker 2: There well, that's a strategy I'm going to write down

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Speaker 2: and go with in terms of what we're focusing on

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Speaker 2: on the Sports Fixed podcast today, I want to talk

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Speaker 2: abit about the Masters, want to talk a bit about

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Speaker 2: Grace Wecki. What about a guest for today.

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Speaker 3: Andrew haw is going to join us CEO of Blues Rugby.

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Speaker 3: It's a big weekend for the Blues Eden Park. First,

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Speaker 3: they're taking on the new Roustabouts on the block, well

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Speaker 3: newss anyway now they started winning Mina Plassifica. And then

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Speaker 3: on the heels of that, it is the final of

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Speaker 3: O Picky Mark to II are coming up to try

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Speaker 3: and stop the Blues women winning consecutive O Picking titles.

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Speaker 3: And that's king offered five minutes after seven, so that's

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Speaker 3: prime time for the finals, so we'll talk to him

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Speaker 3: about that in the organization behind what'll be a big

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Speaker 3: evening at eden Park.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic all right, plus the latest sports news coming up,

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Speaker 2: let's get into it. In other news, let's get things

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Speaker 2: underway with a look at some of the big sports

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Speaker 2: stories around today. Supercars driver andre Heimgartner's getting behind plans

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Speaker 2: for a Supercars round to take place in christ Church.

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Speaker 2: Blue poona Park's the likely candidate to join top Or

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Speaker 2: as the only New Zealand events on the calendar next year.

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Speaker 4: For me, that's a great track. It's where I've done

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Speaker 4: the most laps out of any track in the world.

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Speaker 4: It's where I cut my teeth and form of the

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Speaker 4: forward and I think no doubt the area is amazing

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Speaker 4: for it a great part of the country and the

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Speaker 4: track is suitable for supercars too.

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Speaker 2: Silver Ferns that shooter Grace Wiki is overcoming early apprehension

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Speaker 2: at super netball's two point shot after joining the New

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Speaker 2: South Wales Swifts interially in pre seas and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't like this and it's not my strength and

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Speaker 2: it's changes the game.

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Speaker 5: It brings teams to a.

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Speaker 6: Drup down back in I think to give myself lifense

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Speaker 6: to turn and shoot both for the shot.

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Speaker 3: I know I need to do the work at training

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Speaker 3: to put that volume up.

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Speaker 2: And hosts Paris ja Mart have come from behind to

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Speaker 2: beat aston Villa three to one in the first leg

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Speaker 2: of their Champions League Football quarter final and keep his

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Speaker 4: What air?

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Speaker 2: What a fighter for Georgian genius give beer.

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Speaker 1: Use and a Villian. It's Sports Fix with Jason Pine

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Speaker 1: and Dussy water Grave.

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Speaker 3: And it's all welcome to the Sports Fixed podcast. Now

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Speaker 3: to CEO of the Blues. His name is Andrew Hoare

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Speaker 3: Big weekend air head.

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Speaker 5: Gooday Andrew, how are you Darcy right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very well, looking forward to the weekend's sport as

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Speaker 3: of course you are as well. Big weekend for the

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Speaker 3: Blues franchise, not only for the men, more so for

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Speaker 3: the women. In opicky you got a final coming up, Andrew.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, back to back which has been an outstanding achievement.

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Speaker 6: And when I think about that first season where we

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Speaker 6: and the environment and they're thriving. So yeah, look there

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Speaker 6: they're very close competitions. This whole season has been I mean,

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Speaker 6: and it's been tit for tat so it'll be another

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Speaker 6: classic or picky game. And I think for those that

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Speaker 3: You're being very generous around what Hurricanes Pool didn't offer

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Speaker 3: But it's going to happen, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: I think, Look, every franchise has its challenges. I think

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Speaker 5: But it's all swings roundabouts.

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Speaker 6: And the beauty of the iphine of all Picky two

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Speaker 3: It's a very settled lineup that you've got up against

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Speaker 3: should have given this final, this OPIKI Final a clear

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Speaker 6: I think there's an argument definitely for that moving forward.

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Speaker 6: I think in this instance it fell well for us.

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Speaker 6: And that left a window open which now elevates this

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Speaker 6: That said, I think Saturday night is befitting of a

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Speaker 3: I believe you, because it is fantastic to watch, very different,

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Speaker 6: No, that's an ensio and all comes under the management

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Speaker 3: Sarah want do you think to maybe have a standalone

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Speaker 5: After being in working in Australia where they.

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Speaker 5: From what I've seen. And the other part about it

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Speaker 6: Really really well because we have the Pacific a festival,

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Speaker 6: of that we roll into the the Orpicki Finals. So actually,

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Speaker 6: from our perspective, it's made a day of entertainment and added.

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Speaker 5: To what was already existing.

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Speaker 3: Has it fallen in your lap though, Andrew I, it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: We had an afternoon fixture, we had the one, we

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Speaker 5: It just flowed. And then obviously this game came up.

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Speaker 6: And if it wasn't going to be played here, it

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Speaker 5: So by having it here, it's actually become part of.

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Speaker 6: A far broader festival and something that I think is

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Speaker 3: Expectations around attendance. Now, you would hope that there'd be

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Speaker 5: In attendance in the women's game.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, if you look at Fong Ray,

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Speaker 5: I think as a country, we've got to understand too that.

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Speaker 6: The woman's professional game is starting at a different base

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Speaker 5: For men and women.

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Speaker 6: So I think that it has to be a touch

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Speaker 6: sort of flicking of a switch.

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Speaker 3: Andrew were thinking very much for your time. Hate Joyce

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Speaker 3: said it that it's going to be a big game.

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Speaker 3: Let's open so well attended and success for your blues both.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, good on you mate, Thank you Sports pigeons.

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Speaker 3: Meat cat. I'm referencing Joey Manu, former rugby league player

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Speaker 2: An important cogndad. It's good that we're impassionate agreement on this,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to that, Looking forward to a big

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