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Speaker 2: Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 3: Card and you SAILO. Good morning, Welcome to Saturday Mornings

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Speaker 3: with Jack Tame on News Talk z EDB. Or Tamahua

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Speaker 3: quael Island, as it's known, right in the heart of

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Speaker 3: Littleton Harbor, would have to be the closest thing to

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Speaker 3: a magical place that I ever explored as a kid.

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Speaker 3: It really has this wondrous history. So the island was

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Speaker 3: once upon a time a leper colony. It was the

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Speaker 3: quarantine station for both Scott and Shackleton's teams. It's where

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Speaker 3: the huskies and the ponies were quarantined before they headed

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Speaker 3: down to Antarctica. And Quayle Island or Tarmaha is the

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Speaker 3: setting for an amazing New New Zealand film. The film's

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Speaker 3: called We Were Dangerous. It's about a school for incorrigible

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Speaker 3: and delinquent girls in the nineteen fifties, and the stars

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Speaker 3: of that film are going to be with us after

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock this morning, Edina James and Natalie Morris cannot

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Speaker 3: wait to discuss their experience of Quail Island and compare

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Speaker 3: it to mine. Before ten. If you are looking to

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Speaker 3: warm up, maybe you have been out on the water

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Speaker 3: this morning. Aleik parmesan and prejuto tart. You can't really

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Speaker 3: go wrong with those three ingredients, right leak's tik parmesan,

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Speaker 3: tik procuto. Yes please, we'll share that with you very shortly.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's eight minutes past nine, Jack Tame, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what, thirteen year old Jack Tame would never

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Speaker 3: have believed that Scott Robertson and Leon mcdond were not

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Speaker 3: getting along. The year was two thousand, Having survived y

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Speaker 3: two k, started high school and become a teenager in

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Speaker 3: the space of a few short months. The highlight of

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Speaker 3: my year was yet to come May twentieth, when the

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Speaker 3: Canterbury Crusaders defeated the Act Brumbies by a single point

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Speaker 3: at Bruce Stadium in canber to become Super Rugby champions

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Speaker 3: for the third year in a row, the first team

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Speaker 3: to achieve the feat. It is actually honestly amazing to

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Speaker 3: go back and look at the team from that night

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Speaker 3: the starting fifteen for the Crusaders. We didn't know it then,

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Speaker 3: but several of the winning Crusaders would end up becoming

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Speaker 3: successful coaches after their playing careers had finished. So winning

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Speaker 3: finalists included Todd Blackadder, Darryl Gibson and Mark Hammett, all

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Speaker 3: of whom have enjoyed pretty high profile rugby coaching careers.

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Speaker 3: The Crusaders second five eighth was a guy called Mark

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Speaker 3: Robinson who years to come would be appointed the CEO

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Speaker 3: of New Zealand Rugby. And of course we didn't know

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Speaker 3: it then, but in a couple of decades he would

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Speaker 3: hire his blindside flanker teammate as the All Blacks coach

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Speaker 3: and his fullback as assistant. But if you could have

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Speaker 3: told thirteen year old me that two of the guys

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Speaker 3: a very public split after just a month at the

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Speaker 3: helm of the All Blacks, I would never have believed you,

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Speaker 3: I have to say, though, as shocked as I was

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Speaker 3: to learn that McDonald and Razor hadn't worked out, from

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Speaker 3: what we know so far New Zealand Rugby, the All

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Speaker 3: Blacks and both Scott Robertson and Leon McDonald deserve our

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Speaker 3: praise and thanks. I thought that statement from New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Rugby and Scott Robertson's subsequent statements were honestly amazing. Look,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're never going to know the full story,

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Speaker 3: right of course, but they didn't sugarcoat anything. No one

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was honest. They just didn't see eye

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Speaker 3: to eye. They have differing views after a series of

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Speaker 3: robust conversations. That might be a bit of a euphemism,

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Speaker 3: or at least an understatement. It simply wasn't in the

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Speaker 3: working together, resentment building as they pulled in different directions.

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Speaker 3: And look, it's just so easy to imagine an alternative,

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Speaker 3: don't you think to just imagine it for a moment,

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Speaker 3: that they didn't accept that things weren't clicking, and whatever

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Speaker 3: You just know that rumors would start the odd you know,

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Speaker 3: the team. Again, we don't know everything, but given the

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Speaker 3: and man, there is just so much to be said

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Speaker 3: the rugby loving public. They called it. Leon McDonald clearly

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Speaker 3: job somewhere different. Obviously, thirteen year old me would be

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Speaker 3: gutted to see two of his sporting heroes split. But

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Speaker 3: twenty years or twenty four years since they won that

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Speaker 3: has been mature and strangely refreshing. Jack Team ninety two.

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Speaker 3: Ninety two is the text number if you are going

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Speaker 3: to flick near text this morning. Don't forget the standard

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Speaker 3: text costs supply. Have you got more to say? You

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Speaker 3: can lay it out, maybe a little essay Jacketnewstalks dB

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Speaker 3: dot co dot nz is my email Address'll get our

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Speaker 3: Sportos thoughts on that situation very shortly. Next up, though,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Mirlon will kick us off for our Saturday together.

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Speaker 3: It's thirteen minutes past nine and I'm Jack Tame. This

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepure dot co

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Speaker 3: Hi Jerry, says Alan on the email. Hi, Jack, says

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Speaker 3: Ellen on the email this morning. I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: There is nothing worse when you see a high profile

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Speaker 3: sacking or similar and they say, oh, they just want

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Speaker 3: to go and spend more time with the family. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there is nothing in principle spending more time with the family.

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Speaker 3: I can imagine that there are going to be times

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Speaker 3: in my life where I want to spend more time

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Speaker 3: with the family, including right now of course, but certainly

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Speaker 3: if that excuse was rolled out on this occasion, I

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Speaker 3: think we'd all be rolling our eyes, right. Don't you

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Speaker 3: just think it is refreshing to just have, at the

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Speaker 3: very least what appears to be honesty Right from New

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Speaker 3: Zealander rugby Jack, you always talk lots of nonsense. Huh

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Speaker 3: two if you want to add to that jacket, Newstalk

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Speaker 3: said the dot co dot Nz Kevin Milne is with

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Speaker 3: us this morning. Ah to martiear Kevin, you, well, you've

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Speaker 3: had a bit of an interesting week. You have been

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Speaker 3: thinking or reminiscing about the blue supermoon. Is it brings

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Speaker 3: romance into your life? Kevin, this week's blue supermoon has

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Speaker 3: brought some romance into your life?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Did you see the supermoon during the week?

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Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed to say I didn't until my steps on

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Speaker 3: came up to me and said, I know that other

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Speaker 3: people have bad sleeps on the supermoon, but I slept

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Speaker 4: Okay. It was sort of drifted by actually right through

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Speaker 4: the week.

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Speaker 5: And I was reading yesterday about the link between blue

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Speaker 5: moons and romance. How blue moons ignite our sentiments. I

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Speaker 5: don't usually believe that since but how's this? I was

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Speaker 5: no idea the blue supermoon was on its way, and

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Speaker 5: out of the blue as it were, I had this

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Speaker 5: startlingly sharp recall of the first time I kissed my wife,

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Speaker 5: oh nearly fifty years ago, not just the detail of events,

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Speaker 5: but the detonation of emotions who went with it, I recalled.

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Speaker 5: We were on our first date, which started at Julie's

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Speaker 5: Wine Bar in London's notting Hill, where Mark Phillips had

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Speaker 5: just had his stag night prior to marrying Princess Anne.

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Speaker 5: We went on to London's newly opened hard Rock Cafe

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Speaker 5: for dinner, then onto the flash casino I'd wangled my

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Speaker 5: way into, called the night Spridge Sporting Club. Linda had

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Speaker 5: the French restaurant part of the Caste, snacking late at

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Speaker 5: night on snails something else I was gambling on and

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Speaker 5: never having done before. I got Linda home very late,

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Speaker 5: accompanied to a door. Then that critical unnerving moment, the kiss.

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Speaker 5: My fear was that as I tilted forward, Chi'll tilt

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Speaker 5: back and say, for God's sake, Kevin we've been workmates

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Speaker 5: for a year and a half. What the hell's come

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Speaker 5: over you? But not As I leaned forward, so did

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Speaker 5: she and we kissed albit briefly, Jack on the lips.

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Speaker 5: Our relationship had shifted to a whole new level. I

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Speaker 5: and I looked up at Big Ben. It shone like

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Speaker 5: This came back to me on Monday night, and I'm

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Speaker 5: wondering if I have the Blue super the Moon to thank.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a lovely story, Kevin. I'm sure, of

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Speaker 3: course that you still get the same physiological reaction that

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Speaker 3: the fireworks going off, the butterflies in your stomach every

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Speaker 3: time you kiss your better half these days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, when our lips all that still because it

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Speaker 5: only happens every few years.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, because when I think of the Blue moone,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think of I think of the Frank Sinatra.

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Speaker 2: Song, right, absolutely, yeah, we're a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: I had a look at that an anthology. Are there

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Speaker 3: of blue Moon related songs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't know that one. No, okay, no,

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Speaker 3: I have to go and search it out. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: very good. Oh well, thank you for sharing that lovely

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Speaker 3: story with us. That has been Yeah, just killing things off.

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Speaker 3: We like to evident jig a little bit of romance

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Speaker 3: on our Saturday morning. So very much appreciated. Kevin, You

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Speaker 3: take care. We'll catch your so Jack, that is Kevin

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Speaker 3: mel Thank you for your feedback.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 3: We're never going to know the real story until we

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Speaker 3: hear from Leo McDonald. We shouldn't be naive. We shouldn't

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Speaker 3: just accept the headlines and praise Raiser for the way

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Speaker 3: he handled the situation. Coaches and teams always have conflict.

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Speaker 3: These two know each other well enough to sit down

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Speaker 3: and sort out their differences. It's childish to say they

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Speaker 3: had strategic differences. To resolve this, someone needs to put

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Speaker 3: their ego aside and listen. There is more to this

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Speaker 3: than we're hearing. Interesting. I think you're right with that

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Speaker 3: first point. I think you know, until we have heard

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Speaker 3: from Leo McDonald, we probably can't have absolute confidence in everything.

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Speaker 3: I think my point is that that instead of sugarcoating it,

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Speaker 3: Raiser came out and was just like, yeah, we've just

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Speaker 3: got differences of opinion. And I also think put it

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Speaker 3: this way, I don't think anything about the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Rugby statement or Scott Robinson's comments where mone a diminishing

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Speaker 3: for Leon McDonald. I don't think Leon McDonald came out

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Speaker 3: looking at all bad from it, right, Like, if anything,

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Speaker 3: these two, I mean, these two have both had for

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Speaker 3: careers as coaches. Scott Robinson's the head coach of the

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Speaker 3: All Black, so he probably gets to make the final call. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just I don't think no point did he slag

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Speaker 7: Well possibly, Jack, Look, I'd agree that we weren't fed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's amazing just going through the

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Speaker 7: Ones, all under all under. And I've spoken to these

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Speaker 7: It's a shame that the full house, big crowd, huge

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Speaker 4: And that's what happens.

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Speaker 7: Frustrating as heck, they've beaten teams this year they shouldn't have,

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Speaker 7: next year. The Kiwis captains. So yeah, they'll they'll, they'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. Hey, before we go. As a kid,

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Speaker 3: That's the one that had the old prisoner of war

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Speaker 3: of Finlay Christie Enrico Yowani had something to do with

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00:23:36,733 --> 00:23:41,493
Speaker 3: the Leo McDonald Scott Robertson breakdown? Suspiciously yours? Yeah, that

431
00:23:41,573 --> 00:23:43,733
Speaker 3: could be one of the factors too, couldn't it. Yeah,

432
00:23:43,933 --> 00:23:45,853
Speaker 3: I'm starting to feel like maybe I've just been sucked

433
00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:48,133
Speaker 3: IM starting to feel like maybe I've just been a

434
00:23:48,173 --> 00:23:50,413
Speaker 3: bit naive this morning and thinking, oh, you know, it's

435
00:23:50,493 --> 00:23:52,533
Speaker 3: just good to see even on front footing this and

436
00:23:52,653 --> 00:23:54,853
Speaker 3: not coming up with the lame excuse and just saying, yeah,

437
00:23:54,853 --> 00:23:56,933
Speaker 3: we weren't getting along, we weren't clicking, we were clashing

438
00:23:56,973 --> 00:23:58,773
Speaker 3: a bit. Or did they say that there had been

439
00:23:58,813 --> 00:24:01,733
Speaker 3: some robust conversations over the last week a few weeks,

440
00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:04,453
Speaker 3: and so we decided to pop in. Anyway, maybe maybe

441
00:24:04,453 --> 00:24:05,933
Speaker 3: I have been sucked in, like you say, I think

442
00:24:06,373 --> 00:24:08,453
Speaker 3: we need to hear from Lion mctold at some point

443
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:10,093
Speaker 3: if you want to flick us a note. Ninety two

444
00:24:10,173 --> 00:24:12,173
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number. It's twenty two to ten,

445
00:24:12,173 --> 00:24:14,173
Speaker 3: which means it's time to catch up with our film reviewer,

446
00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:19,693
Speaker 3: Francesca Rudkin Kyoda, good morning, Okay, two films to talk

447
00:24:19,733 --> 00:24:21,693
Speaker 3: to you this morning. The first one is streaming on

448
00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:24,973
Speaker 3: Netflix and immediately popped up on my algorithm. This is

449
00:24:25,093 --> 00:24:27,493
Speaker 3: the Union I Am.

450
00:24:27,613 --> 00:24:31,013
Speaker 6: Mikey bros Said, how often is it that you run

451
00:24:31,013 --> 00:24:32,013
Speaker 6: into high schools? We don't.

452
00:24:32,053 --> 00:24:39,013
Speaker 1: After twenty five long years two, I didn't have an

453
00:24:39,053 --> 00:24:40,773
Speaker 1: Ontario voter to bring in your hair.

454
00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:43,373
Speaker 2: I'm trying to whisk me away with you something.

455
00:24:48,693 --> 00:24:50,373
Speaker 9: Welcome to London, Mikey bros.

456
00:24:50,413 --> 00:24:52,093
Speaker 2: What the hell? Where did Jersey go?

457
00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:54,293
Speaker 4: Right?

458
00:24:54,413 --> 00:24:57,333
Speaker 3: Okay, We've got a down to earth construction worker, Mark

459
00:24:57,413 --> 00:25:01,653
Speaker 3: Wahlberg thrust into the world of superspies and secret agents.

460
00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:03,733
Speaker 3: This feels very likely, Francesca.

461
00:25:04,533 --> 00:25:06,573
Speaker 10: Yes, so we seem to be having a bit of

462
00:25:06,653 --> 00:25:09,813
Speaker 10: a space of quite big name driven films being released

463
00:25:10,013 --> 00:25:14,653
Speaker 10: on screening streaming services. Of course, last week I spoke

464
00:25:14,653 --> 00:25:16,853
Speaker 10: about The Instigator, that tried to do something a little

465
00:25:16,893 --> 00:25:20,013
Speaker 10: bit different as was a sort of a Boston centric

466
00:25:20,133 --> 00:25:22,893
Speaker 10: anti heist film. This week, I'm going to talk about

467
00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:27,373
Speaker 10: The Union, which is a little bit more straightforward. It

468
00:25:27,533 --> 00:25:31,053
Speaker 10: is a spy action comedy stars Halle Berryer and Matt Wolberg,

469
00:25:31,133 --> 00:25:34,733
Speaker 10: and I was actually really surprised they had very good chemistry.

470
00:25:34,853 --> 00:25:37,493
Speaker 10: They worked really well together in this film, which I

471
00:25:37,533 --> 00:25:40,173
Speaker 10: think is a good thing because the film itself and

472
00:25:40,253 --> 00:25:43,293
Speaker 10: the plot and everything is a little bit light. It's

473
00:25:43,413 --> 00:25:45,133
Speaker 10: not really, it's actually.

474
00:25:44,893 --> 00:25:45,973
Speaker 11: More of a reunion.

475
00:25:46,813 --> 00:25:50,053
Speaker 10: The two of them used to be high school sweethearts.

476
00:25:50,613 --> 00:25:53,493
Speaker 10: Mike is just kind of still living in the same

477
00:25:53,613 --> 00:25:57,893
Speaker 10: neighborhood as you say, construction worker, and Roxanne has gone

478
00:25:57,933 --> 00:26:01,413
Speaker 10: on to become a super spy and she recruits him

479
00:26:01,813 --> 00:26:05,893
Speaker 10: on a high stakes, intelligent mission. And we're very much

480
00:26:05,973 --> 00:26:08,453
Speaker 10: relying on that kind of fish out of warm water

481
00:26:08,653 --> 00:26:10,653
Speaker 10: humor to kind of, you know, kick us off here.

482
00:26:11,213 --> 00:26:15,093
Speaker 10: So good chemistry, lots of fun, pretty predictable. It kind

483
00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:17,373
Speaker 10: of hits all those kind of beats you would expect

484
00:26:17,453 --> 00:26:20,493
Speaker 10: in a bit of an action comedy story. Isn't quite

485
00:26:20,573 --> 00:26:23,493
Speaker 10: eagy enough to make it stand out. But if you

486
00:26:23,613 --> 00:26:28,493
Speaker 10: want some really light escapism this weekend, then it will

487
00:26:28,573 --> 00:26:31,453
Speaker 10: probably hit the mark for you. It has gone number

488
00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:34,933
Speaker 10: one on Netflix and numerous different countries around the place,

489
00:26:35,013 --> 00:26:35,933
Speaker 10: so very popular.

490
00:26:36,653 --> 00:26:39,573
Speaker 3: I think emphasis on really light is that fair?

491
00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:41,813
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, totally.

492
00:26:41,893 --> 00:26:43,933
Speaker 10: And you and I we talk about this quite often.

493
00:26:44,093 --> 00:26:46,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we need these films.

494
00:26:47,213 --> 00:26:48,933
Speaker 10: Sometimes they're done really well.

495
00:26:49,413 --> 00:26:53,613
Speaker 3: This one is done, okay, Even that line from Mirke Warlburg.

496
00:26:53,933 --> 00:26:56,253
Speaker 3: It's not every day you run into your high school

497
00:26:56,333 --> 00:27:00,573
Speaker 3: sweetheart twenty five years later you're here, here we go.

498
00:27:00,973 --> 00:27:02,933
Speaker 3: It's not every day your high school sweel looks like

499
00:27:03,013 --> 00:27:07,893
Speaker 3: Alie Berry as well. Mark Anyway, that is the Union

500
00:27:07,933 --> 00:27:11,333
Speaker 3: streaving on Netflix for something completely different, tell us about

501
00:27:11,773 --> 00:27:13,573
Speaker 3: The Three Musketeers Milady.

502
00:27:14,733 --> 00:27:16,853
Speaker 10: So I spoke about these films when the French Film

503
00:27:16,933 --> 00:27:19,053
Speaker 10: Festival is playing much earlier in the year, and they've

504
00:27:19,133 --> 00:27:22,973
Speaker 10: both come back to play at cinemas, so there's there

505
00:27:23,013 --> 00:27:27,533
Speaker 10: are obviously adaptations of The Three Musketeers the novel. It's

506
00:27:27,573 --> 00:27:30,053
Speaker 10: been put into two films, so you might have gone

507
00:27:30,093 --> 00:27:34,333
Speaker 10: to see The Three Musketeers d'Artagnan. Well, Milady is the

508
00:27:34,413 --> 00:27:36,733
Speaker 10: second one, and that is just about to be released.

509
00:27:37,173 --> 00:27:42,933
Speaker 10: And these are actually really well done swash buckling adventure films.

510
00:27:42,973 --> 00:27:47,373
Speaker 10: They've got amazing costumes, plenty of actions, some really good

511
00:27:47,453 --> 00:27:52,053
Speaker 10: fighting scenes, but there's also a touch of romance and

512
00:27:52,093 --> 00:27:55,493
Speaker 10: a touch of humor. It's almost old fashioned sort of

513
00:27:55,573 --> 00:27:56,773
Speaker 10: storytelling done.

514
00:27:56,733 --> 00:27:57,613
Speaker 13: Really really well.

515
00:27:58,013 --> 00:28:00,293
Speaker 10: And I didn't realize when I saw the first one

516
00:28:00,373 --> 00:28:02,773
Speaker 10: that it is a part two, and so when it ended,

517
00:28:02,773 --> 00:28:04,853
Speaker 10: I was like, oh what, there's another one. But then

518
00:28:04,853 --> 00:28:07,493
Speaker 10: actually I was really excited because Malady, which is about

519
00:28:07,493 --> 00:28:11,413
Speaker 10: to come out this week, is also it's just more

520
00:28:11,453 --> 00:28:14,933
Speaker 10: of the same in this particular one. Either Green plays

521
00:28:14,973 --> 00:28:18,613
Speaker 10: Malady de Winter and she's involved in a very complex

522
00:28:18,773 --> 00:28:22,013
Speaker 10: pot to bring France into a war and they're trying

523
00:28:22,053 --> 00:28:26,573
Speaker 10: to topple the King, and our Musketeers are once again involved,

524
00:28:27,093 --> 00:28:29,893
Speaker 10: and off we go on a wonderful adventure. We're seeing

525
00:28:29,973 --> 00:28:31,733
Speaker 10: on the big screen because, as I say, they've put

526
00:28:31,773 --> 00:28:34,573
Speaker 10: a lot of a lot of effort into the production

527
00:28:34,733 --> 00:28:37,613
Speaker 10: design and the costumes and everything of these films, so

528
00:28:37,693 --> 00:28:38,733
Speaker 10: we're seeing on the big screen.

529
00:28:38,893 --> 00:28:39,133
Speaker 5: Nice.

530
00:28:39,253 --> 00:28:42,893
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Franchesca those films again. The Union is on Netflix.

531
00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:45,093
Speaker 3: It probably comes up as soon as you open Netflix,

532
00:28:45,133 --> 00:28:46,813
Speaker 3: given it's number one in New Zealand at the moment,

533
00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:50,653
Speaker 3: and The Three Musketeers Milady is showing in cinemas at

534
00:28:50,653 --> 00:28:52,813
Speaker 3: the moment. Thank you so much for your messages. Jack,

535
00:28:52,933 --> 00:28:55,493
Speaker 3: nice fan boying of Razor and New Zealand Rugby this morning.

536
00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:57,093
Speaker 3: It all sounds great until you realize that we haven't

537
00:28:57,093 --> 00:28:59,653
Speaker 3: heard anything from Leo McDonald yet. So yes, what you

538
00:28:59,733 --> 00:29:02,573
Speaker 3: think is great openness is really just New Zealand Rugby's

539
00:29:02,573 --> 00:29:05,013
Speaker 3: spin as per usual. Get the full story from Leo

540
00:29:05,093 --> 00:29:08,653
Speaker 3: McDonald and then we will know. Yeah, it would be Yeah,

541
00:29:08,693 --> 00:29:10,613
Speaker 3: it'd be great if we do hear from Leam McDonald

542
00:29:10,613 --> 00:29:13,053
Speaker 3: at some point. I'm sure we will. Jack, Good morning, Mike, hair.

543
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:16,693
Speaker 3: Isn't it nice to hear some refreshing honesty from rugby circles?

544
00:29:16,693 --> 00:29:18,093
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be great to hear a bit more from

545
00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:21,613
Speaker 3: the Warriors instead of all the moaning about the referees. Yeah,

546
00:29:23,213 --> 00:29:25,373
Speaker 3: I mean it was. If you haven't seen, it's a

547
00:29:25,573 --> 00:29:28,213
Speaker 3: Roger w vasis Jek clearly took a hit in the

548
00:29:28,293 --> 00:29:30,973
Speaker 3: head shoulder to the head last night and the Warrior's

549
00:29:31,973 --> 00:29:35,613
Speaker 3: significant loss to the Bulldogs, and I think certainly it

550
00:29:35,733 --> 00:29:40,253
Speaker 3: was deserving of a greater punishment than was meted out

551
00:29:40,373 --> 00:29:42,493
Speaker 3: by the referees, and the video referee could have done

552
00:29:42,493 --> 00:29:44,853
Speaker 3: a whole lot more. That being said, I'm not convinced

553
00:29:44,853 --> 00:29:46,853
Speaker 3: it would have changed the outcome of the game.

554
00:29:47,693 --> 00:29:47,893
Speaker 11: Jack.

555
00:29:47,893 --> 00:29:51,613
Speaker 3: I remember quae Island fondly at first. My first school

556
00:29:51,653 --> 00:29:54,253
Speaker 3: camp was there as a primary school student at Rudolph

557
00:29:54,253 --> 00:29:56,653
Speaker 3: Steiner School in the nineteen eighties. They had a wonderful

558
00:29:56,693 --> 00:29:59,813
Speaker 3: Timesince May. Yeah, it is. It's a funny place. So

559
00:30:00,093 --> 00:30:02,213
Speaker 3: there are only a couple of buildings on Quaele Island.

560
00:30:02,293 --> 00:30:05,213
Speaker 3: It's kind of like reminds it it's Solme's Island or

561
00:30:05,213 --> 00:30:06,973
Speaker 3: something like that. You know, it's it's out in the

562
00:30:07,013 --> 00:30:11,533
Speaker 3: middle of the harbor, and yet there are very few

563
00:30:11,613 --> 00:30:15,733
Speaker 3: trees and there are only a couple of very simple facilities.

564
00:30:15,813 --> 00:30:18,853
Speaker 3: They have a faery service that goes out to Quail Island.

565
00:30:19,173 --> 00:30:22,413
Speaker 3: But actually as a kid, it was a teenager me

566
00:30:22,573 --> 00:30:25,173
Speaker 3: and a mate at low tide, this is probably not

567
00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:29,573
Speaker 3: very advisable. We bought one of those blow up boats

568
00:30:29,613 --> 00:30:32,613
Speaker 3: in the warehouse, you know, those like really crappy blow

569
00:30:32,693 --> 00:30:34,933
Speaker 3: up boats, and we paddled it out to Quaile Island.

570
00:30:35,053 --> 00:30:38,613
Speaker 3: Took us ages, it's absolutely ages, but we paddled out

571
00:30:38,613 --> 00:30:39,933
Speaker 3: to Quail Island, had a bit of a swim, and

572
00:30:39,973 --> 00:30:42,093
Speaker 3: they made our way back to the mainland. So yeah,

573
00:30:42,093 --> 00:30:43,493
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm not the only one who's had a

574
00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:45,693
Speaker 3: few adventures. Then we'll be talking about Quaile Island after

575
00:30:45,773 --> 00:30:46,653
Speaker 3: ten o'clock this morning.

576
00:30:46,733 --> 00:30:50,373
Speaker 1: Right now it is quarter to ten Saturday mornings with

577
00:30:50,733 --> 00:30:53,973
Speaker 1: Jack Tae keeping the conversation going through the weekend with

578
00:30:54,253 --> 00:30:58,093
Speaker 1: bepure dot cot dot insets for high quality supplements used talks.

579
00:30:58,453 --> 00:31:00,373
Speaker 3: We had a few days for the dust to settle,

580
00:31:00,453 --> 00:31:02,333
Speaker 3: now a little week in a bit for the dust

581
00:31:02,333 --> 00:31:04,373
Speaker 3: to settle since other Reserve Bank announce that was going

582
00:31:04,413 --> 00:31:06,893
Speaker 3: to begin cutting the ocr so I've to ten o'clock

583
00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:08,773
Speaker 3: this morning, we're going to catch up with our personal

584
00:31:08,853 --> 00:31:12,693
Speaker 3: finance expert to give us her tips and takes on

585
00:31:13,853 --> 00:31:16,253
Speaker 3: how long to fix for with your mortgage if it's

586
00:31:16,253 --> 00:31:19,693
Speaker 3: coming up sometime soon, how quickly rates are likely to

587
00:31:19,813 --> 00:31:21,893
Speaker 3: come down. It's interesting looking at the ways the banks

588
00:31:21,893 --> 00:31:24,173
Speaker 3: are competing at the moment, because they are competing as

589
00:31:24,213 --> 00:31:26,413
Speaker 3: they as they cut their interest rates, but they're only

590
00:31:26,493 --> 00:31:29,693
Speaker 3: competing over the finest margins at the moment, you know, like, oh,

591
00:31:29,813 --> 00:31:32,413
Speaker 3: cutting just a couple of little basis points off here,

592
00:31:32,493 --> 00:31:37,173
Speaker 3: and they're just shaving a wayfer thin margin off mortgage rates.

593
00:31:37,173 --> 00:31:38,893
Speaker 3: So we're going to talk with her after ten get

594
00:31:38,973 --> 00:31:41,293
Speaker 3: tips so that if you are refixing sometimes soon you

595
00:31:41,413 --> 00:31:43,893
Speaker 3: will know what to do. Twelve to ten on News Talks.

596
00:31:43,933 --> 00:31:47,053
Speaker 3: He'd be our cook, NICKI Wix is in the house, Kyoder.

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00:31:48,413 --> 00:31:52,293
Speaker 12: Yes, Morena, I am in the house with the most

598
00:31:52,373 --> 00:31:53,893
Speaker 12: amazing tart this morning.

599
00:31:54,053 --> 00:31:56,813
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I love a task just I love

600
00:31:56,853 --> 00:31:59,053
Speaker 3: a tant sorry, Niki, and I love I love. I

601
00:31:59,173 --> 00:32:03,133
Speaker 3: love the three key ingredients if you can, I mean leak.

602
00:32:03,493 --> 00:32:06,973
Speaker 3: As I've said many times, the most underrated of winter vegetables,

603
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:10,213
Speaker 3: parmesan and proscutto. So you got a little bit of

604
00:32:10,293 --> 00:32:12,653
Speaker 3: umami in there, and then you've got you've got precu,

605
00:32:12,813 --> 00:32:16,253
Speaker 3: absolutely beautiful, kind of salty cut through. It sounds amazing

606
00:32:16,573 --> 00:32:17,613
Speaker 3: saltin as.

607
00:32:17,613 --> 00:32:20,053
Speaker 12: I know, And I guess I wanted to segue kind

608
00:32:20,053 --> 00:32:22,693
Speaker 12: of from your ocr chat because when you look at those,

609
00:32:22,813 --> 00:32:25,613
Speaker 12: two of those ingredients are really expensive, parmesan and proscucto.

610
00:32:25,813 --> 00:32:26,013
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:32:26,093 --> 00:32:27,613
Speaker 12: I mean, if you're trying to pay your mortgage off,

612
00:32:27,933 --> 00:32:30,413
Speaker 12: sometimes you have to kind of you know, some of

613
00:32:30,453 --> 00:32:33,413
Speaker 12: these luxuries go by the way, but leaks are super

614
00:32:33,533 --> 00:32:36,413
Speaker 12: cheap at the moment. When I created this recipee last

615
00:32:36,413 --> 00:32:38,493
Speaker 12: week for you, I they were at two dollars each.

616
00:32:38,493 --> 00:32:41,653
Speaker 12: They're now down to one dollar. You get a lot

617
00:32:41,853 --> 00:32:44,813
Speaker 12: of run for your money out of leaks. I stupidly,

618
00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:47,813
Speaker 12: till very late in life, used to use not the

619
00:32:47,893 --> 00:32:50,013
Speaker 12: whole leak, but up till when it starts to get

620
00:32:50,093 --> 00:32:52,653
Speaker 12: really green, and now I just use the whole lot.

621
00:32:52,693 --> 00:32:55,973
Speaker 12: The rest of it gets saute, gets put in soups,

622
00:32:56,013 --> 00:32:58,173
Speaker 12: et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, you know it's great.

623
00:32:58,453 --> 00:33:00,373
Speaker 12: And what I also say is one of my notes

624
00:33:00,373 --> 00:33:03,493
Speaker 12: as part of this recipe is presuto, Yeah, really expensive

625
00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,293
Speaker 12: but you don't use a lot of it. You know,

626
00:33:05,813 --> 00:33:08,853
Speaker 12: it's written same with parmesan. They're very pungent, very strong.

627
00:33:08,973 --> 00:33:11,453
Speaker 3: It follows that it follows the Jacktan rule of churito,

628
00:33:12,453 --> 00:33:15,093
Speaker 3: and that a little cha goes a very long way,

629
00:33:15,213 --> 00:33:15,453
Speaker 3: you know it.

630
00:33:17,053 --> 00:33:19,533
Speaker 12: Y, it's so true. I mean, you could probably use

631
00:33:19,733 --> 00:33:21,853
Speaker 12: use china for this, and you could probably use bacon.

632
00:33:22,253 --> 00:33:27,413
Speaker 12: But you know, even if you do, just here we go, yeah,

633
00:33:27,573 --> 00:33:31,973
Speaker 12: still call it this exactly a definitely cut bacon.

634
00:33:32,613 --> 00:33:33,333
Speaker 13: All right, here we go.

635
00:33:33,493 --> 00:33:36,573
Speaker 12: Look, this makes quite a sizeable large tart. Or I

636
00:33:36,813 --> 00:33:39,613
Speaker 12: happen to make four sort of tarts that were about

637
00:33:39,973 --> 00:33:42,693
Speaker 12: about seven inches about twelve centimeters a cross. I've got

638
00:33:42,733 --> 00:33:45,373
Speaker 12: these little fluted tins that the bottoms come out of,

639
00:33:45,413 --> 00:33:47,093
Speaker 12: which is great. So what I do is I line

640
00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:50,613
Speaker 12: each one of those with some savorish crust pastry and

641
00:33:51,253 --> 00:33:53,293
Speaker 12: trim the edges. This is a nice neat little.

642
00:33:56,133 --> 00:33:59,493
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a nice little neat little Watson. Nickey. We've

643
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Speaker 3: lost Nikki there. We'll see if we can if we

644
00:34:01,693 --> 00:34:04,333
Speaker 3: can reconnect her quick. Smart Dean has some thoughts this

645
00:34:04,453 --> 00:34:07,373
Speaker 3: morning on the whole Scott Robinson Leo McDonald's situation.

646
00:34:07,533 --> 00:34:07,693
Speaker 11: Jack.

647
00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:10,413
Speaker 3: This is the kind of leadership that won Scott Robertson

648
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Speaker 3: the All back coaching gig in the first place. It

649
00:34:12,893 --> 00:34:15,813
Speaker 3: is decisive, decisive action. At the end of the day,

650
00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:18,413
Speaker 3: if something isn't working, it's simple, right, we will try

651
00:34:18,533 --> 00:34:20,693
Speaker 3: something different. If that doesn't work, then we'll keep on

652
00:34:20,733 --> 00:34:23,293
Speaker 3: trying different things until we are good to go and

653
00:34:23,373 --> 00:34:25,653
Speaker 3: we'll be able to do that. Thank you very much, Dean.

654
00:34:25,813 --> 00:34:27,773
Speaker 3: If you want to email me like Dean did, Jacket

655
00:34:27,813 --> 00:34:30,453
Speaker 3: Newstalks headb dot co dot indeed is the best place

656
00:34:30,533 --> 00:34:32,733
Speaker 3: to go. Nicky Wicks is back. And I don't know

657
00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:35,533
Speaker 3: what it was, Nikki, all the talk about delicious.

658
00:34:35,093 --> 00:34:36,493
Speaker 6: Still and going come and going.

659
00:34:36,893 --> 00:34:40,773
Speaker 12: I know, yeah, we busted the internet or something. Hey,

660
00:34:40,813 --> 00:34:43,333
Speaker 12: well here you go. So we've lined our pastry cases.

661
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:46,573
Speaker 12: Now we need to cook cook off our leaks. And

662
00:34:46,653 --> 00:34:49,173
Speaker 12: so what I do is you're after the lovely rounds

663
00:34:49,213 --> 00:34:52,573
Speaker 12: sort of quite a neat round of leak, so chop

664
00:34:52,653 --> 00:34:54,853
Speaker 12: some of those. I've used about three or four leaks.

665
00:34:54,853 --> 00:34:57,373
Speaker 12: They were probably a bit thinner than maybe the big

666
00:34:57,493 --> 00:34:59,813
Speaker 12: fatty ones. But you want them in about two centimeter

667
00:34:59,813 --> 00:35:02,693
Speaker 12: a lot thick rounds. Pop those in a pan with

668
00:35:02,853 --> 00:35:05,253
Speaker 12: some butter and some oil. I do use a fair

669
00:35:05,293 --> 00:35:07,173
Speaker 12: bit of butter here, thirty rams of butter and a

670
00:35:07,213 --> 00:35:10,413
Speaker 12: good tablespoon of olive oil, and just set those cooking.

671
00:35:10,773 --> 00:35:13,213
Speaker 12: You cover them if you like, and they probably take

672
00:35:13,253 --> 00:35:15,413
Speaker 12: about twenty or thirty minutes jack, So you could put

673
00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:18,413
Speaker 12: those on even before the pastry goes in. When they're

674
00:35:18,413 --> 00:35:21,613
Speaker 12: sort of halfway through cooked, you at about maybe ten

675
00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:24,133
Speaker 12: fifteen minutes. You could turn those over, but you don't

676
00:35:24,133 --> 00:35:26,293
Speaker 12: want them to unravel, if possible, and then you're going

677
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:28,813
Speaker 12: to cool those and a big bowl. What we're going

678
00:35:28,893 --> 00:35:30,773
Speaker 12: to do is we're going to whisk in four eggs

679
00:35:30,933 --> 00:35:33,333
Speaker 12: one hundred and fifty grams of sour cream or cream

680
00:35:33,413 --> 00:35:36,333
Speaker 12: fresh at about two hundred mills of cream. So these

681
00:35:36,373 --> 00:35:40,533
Speaker 12: are rich, beautiful tarts. Half a teaspoon of whole grain mustard.

682
00:35:41,373 --> 00:35:43,813
Speaker 12: I don't think you'll need too much salt and pepper

683
00:35:43,853 --> 00:35:45,253
Speaker 12: in there, but a little bit of each you'll be

684
00:35:45,653 --> 00:35:48,613
Speaker 12: will be good. Sprinkle some grated parmesan and whisk all

685
00:35:48,653 --> 00:35:51,933
Speaker 12: that together. Sprinkle some grated parmesan in the bottom of

686
00:35:51,973 --> 00:35:55,373
Speaker 12: each of the pastry cases that have been chilled. Pop

687
00:35:55,453 --> 00:35:57,813
Speaker 12: the cooled leak rounds on there. You're fit about four

688
00:35:57,853 --> 00:36:00,213
Speaker 12: in each tin or obviously all in a big tin,

689
00:36:00,933 --> 00:36:04,733
Speaker 12: and then transfer those to your oven tray that you've

690
00:36:04,813 --> 00:36:08,053
Speaker 12: been heating and the other and then pour the egg

691
00:36:08,133 --> 00:36:11,213
Speaker 12: mixture into those cases whilst they're on the ovene and

692
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Speaker 12: then slide it back in the oven, ever so gently,

693
00:36:14,693 --> 00:36:17,013
Speaker 12: putting a bit of prosciutto and extra cheese on top.

694
00:36:18,613 --> 00:36:20,733
Speaker 12: Cook them for about thirty to thirty five minutes. Jack

695
00:36:20,853 --> 00:36:24,493
Speaker 12: that prosuto will go nice and crispy on top. Your

696
00:36:24,533 --> 00:36:27,533
Speaker 12: pastry around the edges should look beautiful and golden because

697
00:36:27,573 --> 00:36:30,733
Speaker 12: we preheated a tray in there on one eighty degrees celsius.

698
00:36:31,053 --> 00:36:33,733
Speaker 12: The bottoms should be beautiful and firm and golden as well.

699
00:36:34,413 --> 00:36:36,333
Speaker 12: Leave to call for about five to ten minutes and

700
00:36:36,493 --> 00:36:37,613
Speaker 12: pop them out of there and.

701
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Speaker 3: Eat very good. I know how to do that, but

702
00:36:40,773 --> 00:36:42,773
Speaker 3: I don't need any instructions on that one. But for

703
00:36:42,933 --> 00:36:45,573
Speaker 3: all of the rest of the detail from your recipe,

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Speaker 3: you can go to news Talks eDV dot codet NZ.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Nikki, We will catch you again

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Speaker 3: next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: look at your screen time picks for this week. Three

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Speaker 3: amazing shows, including one that I have totally binged. It's

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Speaker 3: one for the nerds, I will be perfectly honest. It

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Speaker 3: hasn't won over missus Tame just yet. Every time she

736
00:38:13,933 --> 00:38:15,453
Speaker 3: comes to the room and I'm watching it, she goes,

737
00:38:16,373 --> 00:38:18,733
Speaker 3: can't we watch something we both want to watch? But

738
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna recommend it to you after ten o'clock anyway.

739
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Speaker 3: As well as that, of course, Edana James and Natalie Morris.

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Speaker 3: They are the Kiwi stars of this awesome new Kiwi

741
00:38:27,493 --> 00:38:30,893
Speaker 3: film We Were Dangerous. It is a story of Tematu,

742
00:38:31,333 --> 00:38:35,973
Speaker 3: a school for encoorrigible and delinquent girls, a school set

743
00:38:36,093 --> 00:38:39,893
Speaker 3: on a cold, cold island in the early nineteen fifties.

744
00:38:39,933 --> 00:38:42,013
Speaker 3: It's an amazing story. Can't wait to chat to them

745
00:38:42,093 --> 00:38:44,453
Speaker 3: and Studio News is next, though it's almost ten o'clock.

746
00:38:44,653 --> 00:38:45,373
Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 11: This is news.

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Speaker 3: EDB jard in New Zealand. Good morning you Were Jack Tame.

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Speaker 3: This is news Talk z B. I'm here through to

754
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:28,253
Speaker 3: midday today. We Were Dangerous. There's a brand new Kiwi

755
00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:33,173
Speaker 3: film about girlhood, about rebellion and violence with friendship at

756
00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:36,653
Speaker 3: its core. Although the story is fictional, it comes said

757
00:39:36,693 --> 00:39:38,733
Speaker 3: at a time that makes you feel like it could

758
00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:41,333
Speaker 3: have been plucked right from the New Zealand history books.

759
00:39:41,773 --> 00:39:44,493
Speaker 3: The film won the Special Jury Prize at south By

760
00:39:44,573 --> 00:39:47,013
Speaker 3: Southwest this year and made its premiere at the Auckland

761
00:39:47,053 --> 00:39:50,133
Speaker 3: launch of the New Zealand International Film Festival. Have a listen.

762
00:39:53,133 --> 00:39:56,933
Speaker 3: This island has a long history of accommodating dubious characters.

763
00:39:57,413 --> 00:40:00,813
Speaker 14: We've got all sorts, waste, strays, sex, delinquents.

764
00:40:01,173 --> 00:40:01,813
Speaker 9: That's a new one.

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00:40:02,453 --> 00:40:03,653
Speaker 6: Hi, I'm Nillie.

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00:40:04,013 --> 00:40:04,893
Speaker 2: That's Daisy.

767
00:40:06,573 --> 00:40:07,333
Speaker 6: In a weak hub.

768
00:40:08,853 --> 00:40:11,293
Speaker 2: It's best not to think of the girls as wives

769
00:40:11,333 --> 00:40:14,173
Speaker 2: and mothers. It may well be beyond them.

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00:40:18,693 --> 00:40:21,973
Speaker 3: And with us this morning. Our stars of We Were Dangerous,

771
00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:25,173
Speaker 3: Edina James and Natalie Morris, who played Nlly and Lou,

772
00:40:25,813 --> 00:40:29,173
Speaker 3: two of the misfit trio in the story, keld accord

773
00:40:29,213 --> 00:40:33,253
Speaker 3: to it. Good morning, congratulations on We Were Dangerous. It

774
00:40:33,373 --> 00:40:37,813
Speaker 3: feels like it feels like it is earning a lot

775
00:40:37,893 --> 00:40:40,373
Speaker 3: of very good hype, but what does it mean just

776
00:40:40,453 --> 00:40:42,613
Speaker 3: for our audience? Editor, can you explain what it means

777
00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:45,533
Speaker 3: to get the grand jury at the south By Southwest.

778
00:40:45,853 --> 00:40:48,213
Speaker 15: I know it's huge. I wish we could have been there.

779
00:40:48,253 --> 00:40:50,813
Speaker 16: I mean, I know Josephine was there representing your director

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00:40:50,933 --> 00:40:51,933
Speaker 16: A director Sorry.

781
00:40:51,773 --> 00:40:52,693
Speaker 15: Yeah, just inst it for you.

782
00:40:52,773 --> 00:40:57,413
Speaker 16: Our brilliant director was there representing us. It was huge,

783
00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,373
Speaker 16: and I don't think anyone expected it. I don't know.

784
00:40:59,533 --> 00:41:02,213
Speaker 16: Like we filmed it two years ago, it took so

785
00:41:02,413 --> 00:41:04,653
Speaker 16: long to figure it out in the edit and then

786
00:41:04,733 --> 00:41:06,653
Speaker 16: finally get it out to the world that I think

787
00:41:06,693 --> 00:41:09,253
Speaker 16: getting that recognition, I don't know, it struck me.

788
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:10,933
Speaker 15: And also not having seen the film at.

789
00:41:10,893 --> 00:41:12,133
Speaker 3: That point, you hadn't seen it.

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00:41:12,253 --> 00:41:15,253
Speaker 15: I hadn't ment No, I have now at that point,

791
00:41:15,293 --> 00:41:15,933
Speaker 15: I hadn't.

792
00:41:15,773 --> 00:41:19,973
Speaker 3: So the film's winning prizes before you before you'd seen it.

793
00:41:20,133 --> 00:41:22,413
Speaker 3: What's that? What's that like when you you think, oh, well,

794
00:41:22,573 --> 00:41:25,053
Speaker 3: it's probably makes me feel slightly more confident about it.

795
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I definitely did.

796
00:41:26,173 --> 00:41:29,293
Speaker 16: But also there were like maybe four countries that I

797
00:41:29,373 --> 00:41:31,613
Speaker 16: had seen it before I got the chance to.

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00:41:31,653 --> 00:41:38,253
Speaker 15: It's funny reading reviews and being like, oh okay, okay, cool, right, right, Yeah,

799
00:41:38,293 --> 00:41:38,693
Speaker 15: that's right.

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Speaker 3: Oh I remember, is there often disconnect when you're when

801
00:41:41,973 --> 00:41:45,013
Speaker 3: you're working on a project like that, and like between

802
00:41:45,293 --> 00:41:48,013
Speaker 3: what it feels like you're making in the moment and

803
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:49,973
Speaker 3: then when you see the final product and you're like,

804
00:41:50,053 --> 00:41:53,253
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, actually it's this is turned out to

805
00:41:53,293 --> 00:41:54,933
Speaker 3: be slightly different in a good way or a bad

806
00:41:54,933 --> 00:41:56,013
Speaker 3: way than what I was expecting.

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00:41:56,133 --> 00:41:58,213
Speaker 16: I think. So yeah, I think I think it just

808
00:41:59,453 --> 00:42:01,493
Speaker 16: I think me and my selfish brain. I get to

809
00:42:01,533 --> 00:42:03,013
Speaker 16: see it and I'm like, oh my god, look up

810
00:42:03,053 --> 00:42:05,773
Speaker 16: everyone else's incredible work and art that is put into

811
00:42:05,813 --> 00:42:07,213
Speaker 16: it at that point because you're.

812
00:42:07,133 --> 00:42:09,573
Speaker 15: So focused on your own performance that's when you're making it. Yeah,

813
00:42:09,853 --> 00:42:11,733
Speaker 15: you really get to appreciate everyone else. But I do

814
00:42:11,893 --> 00:42:15,613
Speaker 15: think that you can't. You can't lie. Like the energy

815
00:42:15,693 --> 00:42:18,253
Speaker 15: of what you watch is an energy that was on set,

816
00:42:18,653 --> 00:42:20,893
Speaker 15: So watching it, you do feel like, oh, that's what

817
00:42:21,013 --> 00:42:23,573
Speaker 15: it felt like, That's what the energy was between us,

818
00:42:24,133 --> 00:42:26,253
Speaker 15: That's what the Yeah, the energy the whole set was.

819
00:42:26,813 --> 00:42:27,733
Speaker 15: So that's really lovely.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

821
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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't want to give all of the story

822
00:42:30,253 --> 00:42:32,453
Speaker 3: away to our audience, but it would be useful to

823
00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:34,133
Speaker 3: give them, give you everyn a bit of a bit

824
00:42:34,173 --> 00:42:35,933
Speaker 3: of context here, So can you just tell us what

825
00:42:36,173 --> 00:42:40,093
Speaker 3: Tim Mourtu, the School for Encorrigible and Delinquent Girls actually is.

826
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Speaker 16: It is a school, a government sit up school where

827
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Speaker 16: they sent a bunch of delinquent young women away to

828
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Speaker 16: this island to reform. And the idea is that it

829
00:42:52,093 --> 00:42:54,613
Speaker 16: prepares us for marriage. That's you know, it said in

830
00:42:54,693 --> 00:42:57,373
Speaker 16: nineteen fifties. And this is the idea behind the school,

831
00:42:57,933 --> 00:43:04,813
Speaker 16: fictional school. Yes, and that's where we all meet each other, myself, Nelly,

832
00:43:05,093 --> 00:43:09,013
Speaker 16: Lou and Daisy our trio, and we have like this

833
00:43:09,973 --> 00:43:15,333
Speaker 16: gorgeous little gang, but like this rebellious, wonderful gang that

834
00:43:15,453 --> 00:43:15,813
Speaker 16: we create.

835
00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:18,333
Speaker 3: I'm glad you use the word rebellious because I feel

836
00:43:18,373 --> 00:43:21,173
Speaker 3: like that is that is the word. And I imagine

837
00:43:21,853 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 3: and this is just based on like the movies, right,

838
00:43:23,693 --> 00:43:25,213
Speaker 3: you know, you know when you get the script for

839
00:43:25,293 --> 00:43:27,093
Speaker 3: the first time and it kind of has like a

840
00:43:27,173 --> 00:43:29,813
Speaker 3: sentence or two describing each character as you go down there.

841
00:43:30,893 --> 00:43:35,213
Speaker 3: I would have thought words like delinquent and rebellious from

842
00:43:35,253 --> 00:43:38,533
Speaker 3: an actor's perspective would just be the most exciting things

843
00:43:38,613 --> 00:43:39,333
Speaker 3: to see, are they not?

844
00:43:40,213 --> 00:43:40,613
Speaker 17: For sure?

845
00:43:40,933 --> 00:43:45,693
Speaker 15: Yeah, Well, it's funny. My character description was like very

846
00:43:45,813 --> 00:43:50,173
Speaker 15: well off, well mannered, very pretty kind of perfect.

847
00:43:50,493 --> 00:43:52,813
Speaker 3: You're the posh one out of the Yeah.

848
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:56,493
Speaker 15: So I think that it was fun to discover that

849
00:43:56,693 --> 00:43:58,853
Speaker 15: underneath all of that is just rebellion.

850
00:44:00,333 --> 00:44:02,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, to kind of unpack that a little bit. It's

851
00:44:02,853 --> 00:44:08,173
Speaker 3: funny because in a sense, it is a heavy kind

852
00:44:08,173 --> 00:44:11,173
Speaker 3: of subject, right, Like, you know, we we've been talking

853
00:44:11,173 --> 00:44:13,973
Speaker 3: a lot about institutions and you know where we put

854
00:44:14,013 --> 00:44:16,333
Speaker 3: our young people in New Zealand over the last couple

855
00:44:16,373 --> 00:44:20,973
Speaker 3: of years. And despite that theme, the feel it feels

856
00:44:21,053 --> 00:44:25,533
Speaker 3: like there's a real like lightness or like a real

857
00:44:25,773 --> 00:44:29,013
Speaker 3: like sense of love throughout the film that I don't know,

858
00:44:29,133 --> 00:44:32,813
Speaker 3: manages to kind of strike a really important balance. Is

859
00:44:32,853 --> 00:44:34,333
Speaker 3: that something you guys were quite conscious of.

860
00:44:34,573 --> 00:44:34,733
Speaker 4: Yeah?

861
00:44:34,813 --> 00:44:38,173
Speaker 16: Absolutely, And I think you know, you put like most

862
00:44:38,213 --> 00:44:40,853
Speaker 16: of the cars being Maori young women, and you put

863
00:44:40,893 --> 00:44:43,653
Speaker 16: them in the sitting. Of course, all of those conversations

864
00:44:43,693 --> 00:44:47,653
Speaker 16: are differently there. But I think our main focus going

865
00:44:47,693 --> 00:44:51,773
Speaker 16: into it were the relationships between the three the three

866
00:44:51,813 --> 00:44:55,133
Speaker 16: of us and finding the joy, finding the connection, the humor,

867
00:44:56,013 --> 00:44:58,613
Speaker 16: the I don't know, like all of that goodness that

868
00:44:58,653 --> 00:45:02,493
Speaker 16: can come out of those relationships and less so focusing

869
00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:03,893
Speaker 16: on that, on that setting. So it was something that

870
00:45:04,173 --> 00:45:06,293
Speaker 16: we were definitely conscious of, and of course the career

871
00:45:06,373 --> 00:45:07,373
Speaker 16: it's a conscious of as well.

872
00:45:07,653 --> 00:45:09,933
Speaker 15: Yeah, Jose was great. She was like, I'm holding this,

873
00:45:10,093 --> 00:45:12,453
Speaker 15: I'm holding the story. You guys can just exist in

874
00:45:12,533 --> 00:45:14,373
Speaker 15: your fun friendship Forbell.

875
00:45:14,413 --> 00:45:17,173
Speaker 3: You know, I've got the I'm going to take all

876
00:45:17,213 --> 00:45:19,613
Speaker 3: of those other themes and yeah, everything else. You guys

877
00:45:19,693 --> 00:45:22,333
Speaker 3: just focus on each other. Yeah, but they seem to work.

878
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:23,253
Speaker 11: Yeah.

879
00:45:23,933 --> 00:45:25,853
Speaker 3: Isn't it funny how standards have changed. I mean, I

880
00:45:25,933 --> 00:45:27,453
Speaker 3: know that it's a I know that it is a

881
00:45:27,493 --> 00:45:30,573
Speaker 3: fictional school as such, but the concept is not entirely

882
00:45:30,973 --> 00:45:36,093
Speaker 3: is not necessarily fictional. Like what did you think, nat, like,

883
00:45:36,293 --> 00:45:39,453
Speaker 3: like reflecting on the standards that were expected of young women,

884
00:45:39,973 --> 00:45:42,413
Speaker 3: even you know, only seventy.

885
00:45:42,253 --> 00:45:42,853
Speaker 2: Years or so ago.

886
00:45:43,813 --> 00:45:47,813
Speaker 15: Now, it's funny. My mom actually showed me a list

887
00:45:47,933 --> 00:45:50,333
Speaker 15: of things that my grandma gave her when she married

888
00:45:50,373 --> 00:45:54,013
Speaker 15: my dad, Like my dad's mom gave her. And it

889
00:45:54,093 --> 00:45:56,133
Speaker 15: was like, always have dinner on the table when he

890
00:45:56,173 --> 00:45:59,613
Speaker 15: gets home, tie your hair up, you know, to look

891
00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:01,093
Speaker 15: kind of nice so that he has like a little

892
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:03,613
Speaker 15: treat when he gets home. All these things and this

893
00:46:03,773 --> 00:46:06,293
Speaker 15: is what. My parents were married in the early nineties,

894
00:46:07,213 --> 00:46:08,373
Speaker 15: so not that long ago.

895
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:15,253
Speaker 3: So sorry telling anyone in trouble here. This was when

896
00:46:15,333 --> 00:46:16,373
Speaker 3: your parents got married.

897
00:46:16,773 --> 00:46:20,973
Speaker 15: Yes, my dad's mom. So her mother in law gave

898
00:46:21,053 --> 00:46:24,213
Speaker 15: her a list of, you know, things.

899
00:46:23,973 --> 00:46:26,653
Speaker 3: That her mother helped being of probably of a generation

900
00:46:26,773 --> 00:46:28,733
Speaker 3: that kind of grew up in the fifties.

901
00:46:28,613 --> 00:46:33,133
Speaker 15: Totally and lovely woman, lovely grandmother, lovely mother in law.

902
00:46:33,253 --> 00:46:35,013
Speaker 15: It was just what she thought would help the marriage.

903
00:46:35,373 --> 00:46:36,973
Speaker 15: It was just what was expected of her and what

904
00:46:37,093 --> 00:46:40,053
Speaker 15: she thought would Yeah. So not that far away from

905
00:46:40,653 --> 00:46:42,293
Speaker 15: what these girls are learning at the school.

906
00:46:42,613 --> 00:46:47,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's amazing. Again, that's relatively that's relatively recent history.

907
00:46:47,893 --> 00:46:49,133
Speaker 3: Did you reflect on that too.

908
00:46:49,413 --> 00:46:49,613
Speaker 8: Did you?

909
00:46:49,933 --> 00:46:52,853
Speaker 15: I mean I didn't have any like they never lost.

910
00:46:53,173 --> 00:46:55,973
Speaker 15: My mom did not get a lost, But yeah, I

911
00:46:56,013 --> 00:46:57,573
Speaker 15: didn't know that. That's a good story.

912
00:46:57,773 --> 00:46:57,973
Speaker 2: Yeah.

913
00:46:58,613 --> 00:47:01,333
Speaker 3: What's it like working with drama did Dreama.

914
00:47:01,413 --> 00:47:03,413
Speaker 16: It's just incredible, as my I was fortunate, this is

915
00:47:03,453 --> 00:47:07,693
Speaker 16: my second time working with drama that she's she's just incredible.

916
00:47:07,773 --> 00:47:12,093
Speaker 16: She's so playful and I don't know the way that

917
00:47:12,173 --> 00:47:16,853
Speaker 16: she holds herself a professionalism. She's prepared, she's so prepared.

918
00:47:17,013 --> 00:47:18,933
Speaker 15: I feel like she's one of those actors that she's

919
00:47:18,973 --> 00:47:21,413
Speaker 15: been working for so long and it is such a

920
00:47:21,453 --> 00:47:24,733
Speaker 15: professional but every job feels like it's her first. She

921
00:47:24,853 --> 00:47:28,213
Speaker 15: comes in with a total beginner's mindset and like the

922
00:47:28,293 --> 00:47:30,293
Speaker 15: devotion that you have when it is your first job,

923
00:47:30,413 --> 00:47:32,813
Speaker 15: you know, how seriously you take it and how much

924
00:47:32,933 --> 00:47:33,813
Speaker 15: joy you have doing it.

925
00:47:33,973 --> 00:47:37,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. So does that mean that she kind

926
00:47:38,013 --> 00:47:40,733
Speaker 3: of prepere like not over prepears, but prepears with the

927
00:47:41,453 --> 00:47:44,813
Speaker 3: enthusiasm that perhaps you wouldn't expect of someone of her experience.

928
00:47:44,973 --> 00:47:47,853
Speaker 16: Yeah, totally. She just strives for her craft in every

929
00:47:47,973 --> 00:47:51,413
Speaker 16: moment and everything that she does. And working with her

930
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:56,213
Speaker 16: and the younger ensemble group as well, Yeah, teenagers cast

931
00:47:56,253 --> 00:47:58,933
Speaker 16: out of high schools in christ Church. She was just

932
00:47:58,973 --> 00:48:01,133
Speaker 16: brilliant with them, like so playful and engaging, but then

933
00:48:01,173 --> 00:48:04,533
Speaker 16: in a second can just switch and like shock them

934
00:48:04,653 --> 00:48:06,773
Speaker 16: and get these really amazing performances of them.

935
00:48:06,893 --> 00:48:10,253
Speaker 3: So that's just brilliant. How conscious of you guys were

936
00:48:10,653 --> 00:48:14,413
Speaker 3: were you guys about it about it being a film

937
00:48:15,373 --> 00:48:20,653
Speaker 3: about women's standards with really strong women's central characters?

938
00:48:22,253 --> 00:48:25,333
Speaker 15: Hmmm, I don't know, it's.

939
00:48:27,373 --> 00:48:29,573
Speaker 16: I feel like it's a joy in our industry to

940
00:48:29,653 --> 00:48:31,733
Speaker 16: be able to work with so many women on camera,

941
00:48:31,893 --> 00:48:34,693
Speaker 16: like on screen and behind right behind the camera.

942
00:48:34,653 --> 00:48:37,053
Speaker 3: Because this is the production generally had heaps of women.

943
00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:37,493
Speaker 6: Yeah.

944
00:48:37,573 --> 00:48:40,373
Speaker 16: Yeah, our producers Polly and Morgan, and.

945
00:48:42,813 --> 00:48:43,613
Speaker 15: It's just phenomenal.

946
00:48:43,933 --> 00:48:47,213
Speaker 16: So I think being able to be in a film

947
00:48:47,253 --> 00:48:49,093
Speaker 16: like this and tell stories like this with such a

948
00:48:50,133 --> 00:48:52,773
Speaker 16: strong female force behind it as well, it's just it

949
00:48:52,853 --> 00:48:56,533
Speaker 16: was really encouraging for us and just less hurdles to

950
00:48:56,613 --> 00:48:58,013
Speaker 16: jump over when telling these kind of stories.

951
00:48:58,133 --> 00:49:01,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hope you don't mind nerding out for

952
00:49:01,333 --> 00:49:04,573
Speaker 3: a minute. So I grew up in Christitch on the porthills,

953
00:49:04,973 --> 00:49:06,693
Speaker 3: and so I used to always go to the top

954
00:49:06,733 --> 00:49:09,413
Speaker 3: of the hill and then look down at or Tamafu

955
00:49:09,853 --> 00:49:14,013
Speaker 3: Island aka qui Al Island. We're going to ask for

956
00:49:14,093 --> 00:49:16,373
Speaker 3: your impressions of Quie Island right there in the middle

957
00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:17,853
Speaker 3: of Little t Harbor. How did you find it?

958
00:49:18,653 --> 00:49:21,213
Speaker 15: It was amazing because they also when we arrived, they

959
00:49:21,333 --> 00:49:24,253
Speaker 15: built the sets on the island, so that was and it.

960
00:49:24,333 --> 00:49:25,213
Speaker 2: Was it was.

961
00:49:26,053 --> 00:49:28,933
Speaker 15: It was very barren. The heart was already there, yeah,

962
00:49:29,573 --> 00:49:34,653
Speaker 15: big heart was already there, but they built out Yeah. Yeah,

963
00:49:34,693 --> 00:49:38,013
Speaker 15: it was very serene, very it was a long walk

964
00:49:38,053 --> 00:49:39,333
Speaker 15: from the very.

965
00:49:39,293 --> 00:49:40,973
Speaker 3: Cold it looked cold.

966
00:49:41,413 --> 00:49:44,653
Speaker 15: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah it was windy and yeah cold.

967
00:49:44,973 --> 00:49:47,053
Speaker 3: I think Barren is the right way. Like I'm I

968
00:49:47,133 --> 00:49:49,053
Speaker 3: don't know that beautiful is the word that I would

969
00:49:49,053 --> 00:49:52,413
Speaker 3: describe Qui a island, you know. And it's not a criticism,

970
00:49:52,493 --> 00:49:52,733
Speaker 3: I'm not.

971
00:49:53,053 --> 00:49:55,213
Speaker 16: There's a shot in the film this drone shot, well

972
00:49:55,253 --> 00:49:58,133
Speaker 16: helicopter anyway, and it's beautiful.

973
00:49:58,253 --> 00:50:00,413
Speaker 15: The island looks beautiful, but when you're on it.

974
00:50:00,853 --> 00:50:02,493
Speaker 3: It's quite sparse, it is.

975
00:50:02,893 --> 00:50:05,013
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I'm very misty. Do you remember when we

976
00:50:05,053 --> 00:50:07,813
Speaker 15: were walking and you couldn't the days.

977
00:50:07,733 --> 00:50:09,613
Speaker 16: Tictually very rough used to be.

978
00:50:09,973 --> 00:50:12,453
Speaker 3: Do you know about its history? We guys made it

979
00:50:12,453 --> 00:50:15,573
Speaker 3: aware of its history at all? Are you not so much? Okay, well,

980
00:50:15,613 --> 00:50:17,093
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is at all interesting. I

981
00:50:17,133 --> 00:50:18,693
Speaker 3: don't know if because you were filming there for about

982
00:50:18,693 --> 00:50:21,533
Speaker 3: three days or sorry it used to be a leper colony.

983
00:50:21,733 --> 00:50:24,413
Speaker 15: Did you say, yeah, we did, sorry about it.

984
00:50:25,133 --> 00:50:25,293
Speaker 5: Yeah.

985
00:50:25,573 --> 00:50:27,453
Speaker 16: I thought that maybe that was only Matthew Island and

986
00:50:27,853 --> 00:50:29,813
Speaker 16: Wellington Sims Island, but okay.

987
00:50:29,733 --> 00:50:32,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, apparently we needed multiple leper colonies back in

988
00:50:32,773 --> 00:50:35,173
Speaker 3: the day. But the problem was at low tide, you

989
00:50:35,253 --> 00:50:39,013
Speaker 3: can actually like just walk across to the mainland, so

990
00:50:39,293 --> 00:50:42,173
Speaker 3: it was a leper colony. It was also the last

991
00:50:42,253 --> 00:50:45,813
Speaker 3: place that like Shackleton and scott and how Antarctic history is.

992
00:50:45,893 --> 00:50:48,213
Speaker 3: But they they stopped there just before going to Antarctica.

993
00:50:48,293 --> 00:50:49,973
Speaker 3: That's where all their dogs and their ponies came from.

994
00:50:51,013 --> 00:50:54,493
Speaker 3: But did you see the shipwrecks? Noh, Okay, you're gonna

995
00:50:54,493 --> 00:50:56,373
Speaker 3: have to go back. There are shipwrecks. Yeah, there are

996
00:50:56,413 --> 00:50:58,653
Speaker 3: shipwrecks around one side of the island because they used

997
00:50:58,653 --> 00:51:02,093
Speaker 3: to purposefully sink ships off the why off that well

998
00:51:02,173 --> 00:51:03,733
Speaker 3: just went like a ship was at the end of

999
00:51:03,773 --> 00:51:05,533
Speaker 3: its life. I'll go and sink it in the in

1000
00:51:05,613 --> 00:51:07,253
Speaker 3: the water, the air, but you can only see it

1001
00:51:07,293 --> 00:51:09,373
Speaker 3: at like super low tired and the mudflets that they're

1002
00:51:09,493 --> 00:51:11,733
Speaker 3: kind of the bones of the you know, the old

1003
00:51:11,773 --> 00:51:15,053
Speaker 3: the old planks of the ship sticking out. Yeah. Anyway,

1004
00:51:15,213 --> 00:51:19,853
Speaker 3: next next time, yeah, yeah, yeah, congratulations, thank you. It

1005
00:51:19,933 --> 00:51:25,333
Speaker 3: feels like a really amazing time, like a story for

1006
00:51:25,453 --> 00:51:28,653
Speaker 3: this moment, you know, and I'm just you know, really

1007
00:51:28,733 --> 00:51:31,933
Speaker 3: hoping that you know, you guys can ride the wave

1008
00:51:32,093 --> 00:51:35,013
Speaker 3: of success ya as it continue.

1009
00:51:35,093 --> 00:51:37,813
Speaker 16: Hope about audiences connect with it and enjoy it and

1010
00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:41,173
Speaker 16: have a laugh as well, Yeah, that's that'd be ideal.

1011
00:51:41,413 --> 00:51:43,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we really appreciate you coming in.

1012
00:51:43,773 --> 00:51:44,733
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you for having us.

1013
00:51:44,813 --> 00:51:45,773
Speaker 15: Yeah, thanks for having us.

1014
00:51:46,173 --> 00:51:48,493
Speaker 3: That is edit to James and Natalie Morris. They are

1015
00:51:48,613 --> 00:51:52,333
Speaker 3: the stars of We Were Dangerous, that new Kiwi film.

1016
00:51:52,373 --> 00:51:54,493
Speaker 3: We've got all the details for the film up on

1017
00:51:54,613 --> 00:51:56,693
Speaker 3: the News Talk c B website. It's just coming up

1018
00:51:56,733 --> 00:51:59,053
Speaker 3: to twenty past ten on your Saturday morning. Before leaven

1019
00:51:59,053 --> 00:52:00,693
Speaker 3: o'clock this morning, we're going to catch up with our

1020
00:52:00,733 --> 00:52:04,093
Speaker 3: personal finance guru, ask her what the cats to the

1021
00:52:04,173 --> 00:52:06,573
Speaker 3: OC are actually going to mean for those people who

1022
00:52:06,573 --> 00:52:09,613
Speaker 3: are refixing their mortgage sometimes soon Next up, if you

1023
00:52:09,653 --> 00:52:13,093
Speaker 3: are looking for a nice weekend veging out at home,

1024
00:52:13,533 --> 00:52:17,293
Speaker 3: just dissolving into the couch, good news, we've got our

1025
00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:20,373
Speaker 3: screen time picks three shows to watch your stream this weekend.

1026
00:52:21,253 --> 00:52:24,693
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

1027
00:52:24,813 --> 00:52:28,213
Speaker 1: Team and bpuret dot cot ont inzet for high quality

1028
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Speaker 1: supplements used Talks EDB.

1029
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:32,613
Speaker 3: It is twenty three minutes past ten on News Talks EDB,

1030
00:52:32,773 --> 00:52:35,133
Speaker 3: Jack Tame in the hot Seat and it is screen

1031
00:52:35,333 --> 00:52:39,133
Speaker 3: Timetime on Saturday Morning. Tara Reward our screen time expert

1032
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:43,773
Speaker 3: is here. Good morning, Good morning, Right, three shows as

1033
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:45,893
Speaker 3: always to work through this morning. Let's start off with

1034
00:52:45,933 --> 00:52:49,053
Speaker 3: the show streaming on Apple tv plus, tell Us About Pachenko.

1035
00:52:50,813 --> 00:52:53,253
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is a new season of what is probably

1036
00:52:53,333 --> 00:52:56,253
Speaker 13: one of Apple tv Plus's best TV shows. And if

1037
00:52:56,293 --> 00:53:00,093
Speaker 13: you love a sweeping historical epics series, this is what

1038
00:53:00,213 --> 00:53:02,933
Speaker 13: I would really recommend. It's based on a best selling

1039
00:53:02,973 --> 00:53:06,293
Speaker 13: book and it's a historical family saga about four generations

1040
00:53:06,573 --> 00:53:10,413
Speaker 13: of one Korean family who believe they are living under

1041
00:53:10,493 --> 00:53:14,533
Speaker 13: a curse, and over successful generations, they try to break

1042
00:53:14,613 --> 00:53:17,693
Speaker 13: that curse, to end the suffering they're experiencing and to

1043
00:53:17,773 --> 00:53:20,253
Speaker 13: make life better for their children. And when I call

1044
00:53:20,333 --> 00:53:23,973
Speaker 13: this a sweeping historical epic, that's because it takes place

1045
00:53:24,693 --> 00:53:28,813
Speaker 13: over three different countries, over four different generations and spans

1046
00:53:28,893 --> 00:53:31,613
Speaker 13: eighty years. And there's three different languages spoken in this

1047
00:53:31,693 --> 00:53:34,733
Speaker 13: as well, So it starts in Korea in nineteen fifteen,

1048
00:53:34,853 --> 00:53:38,013
Speaker 13: there's a storyline in New York in the late eighties,

1049
00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:40,533
Speaker 13: and another in Japan and World War Two, so.

1050
00:53:40,613 --> 00:53:41,333
Speaker 3: It covers a lot.

1051
00:53:41,413 --> 00:53:44,413
Speaker 13: The scale in this is huge, but it pulls all

1052
00:53:44,453 --> 00:53:48,053
Speaker 13: those different stories together in a really compelling, beautiful way

1053
00:53:48,373 --> 00:53:51,493
Speaker 13: that always makes sense, even though the timelines jump around

1054
00:53:51,493 --> 00:53:53,333
Speaker 13: a lot. This is a show that will take you

1055
00:53:53,493 --> 00:53:56,173
Speaker 13: to another time and place. It's a drama that you'll

1056
00:53:56,253 --> 00:53:58,653
Speaker 13: just want to savor and sort of sink into and

1057
00:53:58,853 --> 00:54:02,373
Speaker 13: just really really enjoy. The costumes are incredible, the photography

1058
00:54:02,493 --> 00:54:05,893
Speaker 13: is beautiful. It's just, you know, like just such a big, broad,

1059
00:54:05,973 --> 00:54:07,733
Speaker 13: sweeping series. It's just so impressive.

1060
00:54:07,813 --> 00:54:10,453
Speaker 3: Ah sounds great, Okay, cool. That is Pacenko. It's on

1061
00:54:10,493 --> 00:54:13,293
Speaker 3: Apple TV Plus on Neon. Industry.

1062
00:54:15,053 --> 00:54:17,853
Speaker 13: Yeah, change of pace and tone completely. This is Industry,

1063
00:54:17,853 --> 00:54:20,413
Speaker 13: which is a show I've talked about before. This is

1064
00:54:20,533 --> 00:54:24,253
Speaker 13: an HBO drama about five young financial graduates who are

1065
00:54:24,773 --> 00:54:27,533
Speaker 13: all competing for a job in an investment bank in

1066
00:54:27,573 --> 00:54:29,733
Speaker 13: the city of London. And it takes place just after

1067
00:54:29,853 --> 00:54:33,093
Speaker 13: the global financial crisis in two thousand and eight, and

1068
00:54:33,733 --> 00:54:37,693
Speaker 13: these graduates are coming into a really ruthless, unforgiving, high

1069
00:54:37,733 --> 00:54:40,653
Speaker 13: pressure environment and they are expected to do whatever it

1070
00:54:40,773 --> 00:54:44,173
Speaker 13: takes to win that position. It's a really intense, fast

1071
00:54:44,213 --> 00:54:46,933
Speaker 13: paced drama and sort of a mix of shows like

1072
00:54:47,053 --> 00:54:50,853
Speaker 13: Succession and Billions and Suits. There's lots of characters here

1073
00:54:50,933 --> 00:54:54,933
Speaker 13: who don't always behave well or make the right decisions.

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00:54:55,053 --> 00:54:57,813
Speaker 13: There's lots of mind games and power games, and you

1075
00:54:57,893 --> 00:54:59,893
Speaker 13: know they work hard and play hard as well, and

1076
00:55:00,253 --> 00:55:02,773
Speaker 13: you know it's a stress little environment that brings out

1077
00:55:02,813 --> 00:55:05,413
Speaker 13: the worst in people, but that always makes for really

1078
00:55:05,453 --> 00:55:08,773
Speaker 13: compelling television. This is a series that gets better as

1079
00:55:08,813 --> 00:55:11,693
Speaker 13: it goes along. It's HBO, so you know that it

1080
00:55:11,813 --> 00:55:14,573
Speaker 13: is going to be a quality drama. There's two seasons

1081
00:55:14,653 --> 00:55:17,653
Speaker 13: already on Neon and the third season has just dropped

1082
00:55:17,693 --> 00:55:18,053
Speaker 13: this week.

1083
00:55:18,253 --> 00:55:21,453
Speaker 3: Yeah cool, Okay, that's industry. It's on Neon and Marlow

1084
00:55:21,613 --> 00:55:23,613
Speaker 3: Murder Club is on TVNZ plus.

1085
00:55:25,453 --> 00:55:26,453
Speaker 18: This is a new.

1086
00:55:26,413 --> 00:55:29,733
Speaker 13: British murder mystery series. It's just started and if you're

1087
00:55:29,773 --> 00:55:32,933
Speaker 13: looking for something light and comfortable and easy to watch

1088
00:55:32,973 --> 00:55:36,173
Speaker 13: this weekend, this would be my recommendation. This is about

1089
00:55:36,653 --> 00:55:40,453
Speaker 13: a retired archaeologist whose neighbor is murdered and when the

1090
00:55:40,493 --> 00:55:43,333
Speaker 13: police refuse to do anything about solving the crime, she

1091
00:55:43,493 --> 00:55:46,973
Speaker 13: decides to take matters into her own hands and with

1092
00:55:47,093 --> 00:55:49,933
Speaker 13: a couple of new friends, decides to turn amateur sleuth

1093
00:55:50,213 --> 00:55:53,973
Speaker 13: and start investigating the murder herself. And it's everything you

1094
00:55:54,013 --> 00:55:58,133
Speaker 13: would expect from a light, picturesque English murder mystery. The

1095
00:55:58,213 --> 00:56:01,253
Speaker 13: scenery is beautiful, you've got some quirky characters in here

1096
00:56:01,293 --> 00:56:03,533
Speaker 13: as well, and you know that everything is going to

1097
00:56:03,573 --> 00:56:04,173
Speaker 13: be tied up in.

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00:56:04,213 --> 00:56:05,213
Speaker 2: A nice bar at the end.

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00:56:05,573 --> 00:56:07,893
Speaker 13: It's not the kind of show that's going to set

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00:56:07,933 --> 00:56:11,133
Speaker 13: the world on fire. It's more of a conflict cozy watch.

1101
00:56:11,693 --> 00:56:13,653
Speaker 13: But that's exactly the appeal of it. If you like

1102
00:56:14,093 --> 00:56:17,653
Speaker 13: shows like My Life Is Murder or The Broken Wood Mysteries,

1103
00:56:17,853 --> 00:56:19,053
Speaker 13: this is a similar.

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00:56:18,813 --> 00:56:19,173
Speaker 5: Kind of thing.

1105
00:56:19,293 --> 00:56:21,493
Speaker 3: Oh cool, Okay, that sounds really good. So those shows

1106
00:56:21,533 --> 00:56:24,253
Speaker 3: once again. Marlow Murder Club is on TVNZ plus, Industry

1107
00:56:24,373 --> 00:56:26,573
Speaker 3: is on Neon, and Pachinko is on Apple TV plus.

1108
00:56:26,653 --> 00:56:30,293
Speaker 3: I've got another recommendation just to add to your list, Tara,

1109
00:56:30,413 --> 00:56:32,293
Speaker 3: and this is I've got to be perving ours. This

1110
00:56:32,493 --> 00:56:35,173
Speaker 3: is one for the uber nerds out there. Okay.

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00:56:35,293 --> 00:56:36,213
Speaker 2: I have just.

1112
00:56:36,333 --> 00:56:40,333
Speaker 3: Finished turning Point the Bomb and the Cold War? Have

1113
00:56:40,453 --> 00:56:42,093
Speaker 3: you heard of that? Does that come across your war?

1114
00:56:42,373 --> 00:56:43,653
Speaker 13: I have not heard of that one.

1115
00:56:43,813 --> 00:56:48,333
Speaker 3: So it's on Netflix. It's a ten part documentary series. Okay,

1116
00:56:48,453 --> 00:56:50,613
Speaker 3: So that align that line right there has probably lost

1117
00:56:50,893 --> 00:56:52,853
Speaker 3: three coups of the people listening right now. But it

1118
00:56:52,973 --> 00:56:56,413
Speaker 3: is a ten part documentary series looking at nuclear proliferation,

1119
00:56:56,613 --> 00:56:59,013
Speaker 3: the Cold War, the end of the USSR and the

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00:56:59,133 --> 00:57:03,613
Speaker 3: rise of the Russia Ukraine conflict. It's really interesting. I

1121
00:57:03,733 --> 00:57:07,693
Speaker 3: swear it's so interesting, and they have amazing interviewees, just

1122
00:57:07,813 --> 00:57:13,013
Speaker 3: incredible world leaders, incredible journalists. Is honestly super compelling, even

1123
00:57:13,053 --> 00:57:15,493
Speaker 3: if you're kind of familiar with most of the history.

1124
00:57:16,093 --> 00:57:17,573
Speaker 3: Now all these little things I've never heard of, all

1125
00:57:17,613 --> 00:57:19,973
Speaker 3: these little like tidbits, little little moments from history that

1126
00:57:20,013 --> 00:57:23,333
Speaker 3: I'd never heard about, and they just had amazing pictures

1127
00:57:23,373 --> 00:57:25,613
Speaker 3: of them. Like, for example, just to give you an example,

1128
00:57:28,053 --> 00:57:31,253
Speaker 3: after the USSRFL right after the Soviet Union broke up

1129
00:57:31,253 --> 00:57:35,213
Speaker 3: and became independent states, lots of the newly independent states

1130
00:57:35,253 --> 00:57:38,173
Speaker 3: found themselves with nuclear weapons but no nuclear expertise. So,

1131
00:57:38,253 --> 00:57:41,373
Speaker 3: for example, Kazakhstan found itself with all these new nuclear

1132
00:57:41,373 --> 00:57:43,573
Speaker 3: weapons but no idea what to do with them. And

1133
00:57:43,693 --> 00:57:45,693
Speaker 3: so the Americans had to go through this big effort

1134
00:57:45,733 --> 00:57:48,253
Speaker 3: to try and to try and lock down the nuclear weapons,

1135
00:57:48,293 --> 00:57:49,693
Speaker 3: and the Russians had to go and try and lock

1136
00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:52,653
Speaker 3: down the nuclear weapons. And then I'd never heard the story,

1137
00:57:52,813 --> 00:57:55,253
Speaker 3: which is interesting because I love reading about this kind

1138
00:57:55,253 --> 00:57:58,373
Speaker 3: of thing. But there was this little factory in the

1139
00:57:58,493 --> 00:58:01,493
Speaker 3: middle of nowhere in Kazakhstan, the middle of nowhere, total

1140
00:58:01,533 --> 00:58:05,053
Speaker 3: backwaters of Kazakhstan, who quietly got in touch with the

1141
00:58:05,173 --> 00:58:08,333
Speaker 3: US embassy to say that that they had something they

1142
00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:11,253
Speaker 3: wanted to give to the Americans, six hundred kg's of

1143
00:58:11,333 --> 00:58:15,133
Speaker 3: highly enriched uranium which was enough to make twenty nuclear bombs,

1144
00:58:15,293 --> 00:58:17,013
Speaker 3: and like that had just been like sitting in a

1145
00:58:17,053 --> 00:58:19,573
Speaker 3: garage stuff like that. Right, It's just super interesting and

1146
00:58:19,573 --> 00:58:21,813
Speaker 3: they've got amazing pictures and that kind of thing. So anyway,

1147
00:58:21,853 --> 00:58:25,213
Speaker 3: that is my pick for the nerds out there, the

1148
00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:27,413
Speaker 3: super news. I don't know, maybe if you've got COVID

1149
00:58:27,533 --> 00:58:29,013
Speaker 3: or something like that, you forced to sit on the

1150
00:58:29,053 --> 00:58:31,453
Speaker 3: couts for the next week. Turning point, the bomb in

1151
00:58:31,493 --> 00:58:32,573
Speaker 3: the Cold War is my pick.

1152
00:58:34,613 --> 00:58:35,173
Speaker 9: Incredible.

1153
00:58:35,293 --> 00:58:38,213
Speaker 13: Yeah, But I love that with so much content these days, Jack,

1154
00:58:38,253 --> 00:58:40,173
Speaker 13: that there was something out there for everyone. I love

1155
00:58:40,213 --> 00:58:43,093
Speaker 13: that you found that niche piece of television that you

1156
00:58:43,213 --> 00:58:43,533
Speaker 13: just love.

1157
00:58:43,653 --> 00:58:44,013
Speaker 10: I love that.

1158
00:58:44,213 --> 00:58:46,253
Speaker 3: I love that you can justify my taste. Thank you

1159
00:58:46,413 --> 00:58:49,933
Speaker 3: very much. Tara Ward, our screen time expert. Those shows

1160
00:58:49,973 --> 00:58:52,133
Speaker 3: will all be up on the News talks He'd website

1161
00:58:52,173 --> 00:58:53,453
Speaker 3: if you want to watch them at home. It's just

1162
00:58:53,533 --> 00:58:54,413
Speaker 3: coming up ten thirty.

1163
00:58:59,733 --> 00:59:03,653
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started, It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

1164
00:59:04,093 --> 00:59:07,133
Speaker 1: on news talks 'b inside.

1165
00:59:07,453 --> 00:59:11,773
Speaker 11: He said, who knows your got a Forney points of

1166
00:59:12,093 --> 00:59:13,733
Speaker 11: you says.

1167
00:59:13,533 --> 00:59:19,293
Speaker 3: You've got away with murder? Maybe on sign maybe two

1168
00:59:20,253 --> 00:59:25,253
Speaker 3: something cars in the morning where I can't see those

1169
00:59:25,453 --> 00:59:26,653
Speaker 3: failing eyes.

1170
00:59:27,453 --> 00:59:31,293
Speaker 2: I can't find a good word for you, does it?

1171
00:59:31,653 --> 00:59:36,053
Speaker 3: Commacea? Who talks be you with Jack Tame this Saturday morning?

1172
00:59:36,693 --> 00:59:38,733
Speaker 3: Did you know that to enrich uranium you have to

1173
00:59:38,773 --> 00:59:40,893
Speaker 3: put it in a centrifuge that spins at about fifteen

1174
00:59:40,933 --> 00:59:46,493
Speaker 3: thousand revs a second. That's crazy, A you can tell

1175
00:59:46,733 --> 00:59:48,773
Speaker 3: having watched the show, I've gone down a real rabbit hole,

1176
00:59:50,533 --> 00:59:53,973
Speaker 3: you know, just differentiating may you my isotopes? May you

1177
00:59:54,093 --> 00:59:57,173
Speaker 3: two three fives from may you two three sevens. I

1178
00:59:57,253 --> 00:59:59,973
Speaker 3: have also, of course been watching the Democratic National Convention

1179
01:00:00,533 --> 01:00:03,093
Speaker 3: in Chicago this week. You have to you have to say,

1180
01:00:03,213 --> 01:00:07,773
Speaker 3: regardless of which party you're following, they are just incredible events,

1181
01:00:08,133 --> 01:00:11,813
Speaker 3: like just as one off shows. They just one of

1182
01:00:11,853 --> 01:00:14,493
Speaker 3: the most extraordinary things to watch. The Republicans were amazing

1183
01:00:14,533 --> 01:00:16,493
Speaker 3: to watch as well. Highlights for me out of the

1184
01:00:16,493 --> 01:00:19,693
Speaker 3: Democratic Convention, I thought it was really interesting seeing the

1185
01:00:19,933 --> 01:00:24,853
Speaker 3: former assistant to Milania Trump come out. So she'd been

1186
01:00:24,893 --> 01:00:27,653
Speaker 3: with the Trumps the whole way through the Donald Trump's

1187
01:00:27,653 --> 01:00:30,173
Speaker 3: presidency until January sixth, and she put up on the

1188
01:00:30,173 --> 01:00:32,613
Speaker 3: big screen behind her the text that she sent to

1189
01:00:32,693 --> 01:00:36,173
Speaker 3: Milania on January sixth, saying, hey, do you want to

1190
01:00:36,253 --> 01:00:38,813
Speaker 3: send out a tweet or something just saying people are

1191
01:00:39,333 --> 01:00:42,213
Speaker 3: welcome to protest, but violence has no place in American

1192
01:00:42,253 --> 01:00:46,893
Speaker 3: democracy or something like that. Millennia just said no. Most

1193
01:00:46,933 --> 01:00:50,933
Speaker 3: emotional moment Tim Waltz, the vice presidential candidate, when he

1194
01:00:51,053 --> 01:00:54,373
Speaker 3: was making his speech his son, that was amazing, you know,

1195
01:00:54,853 --> 01:00:58,133
Speaker 3: really emotional, standing up, tears streaming down his face, saying

1196
01:00:58,213 --> 01:01:02,453
Speaker 3: that's my dad, that's my dad. And best speech, Oh,

1197
01:01:02,973 --> 01:01:04,973
Speaker 3: it's got to be Michelle Obama. I reckon A. I

1198
01:01:05,053 --> 01:01:07,093
Speaker 3: think part of the reason is that you don't actually

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Speaker 3: see Michelle Obama speak in public that often. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Barack Obama is the great orator of world leaders, but

1201
01:01:14,533 --> 01:01:17,973
Speaker 3: for those who haven't actually been leaders, you know, I reckon,

1202
01:01:18,093 --> 01:01:21,813
Speaker 3: I reckon. Michelle Obama is next level as well. Ninety

1203
01:01:21,813 --> 01:01:23,293
Speaker 3: two ninety two if you want to fick his message

1204
01:01:23,333 --> 01:01:25,853
Speaker 3: this morning Jacket News Talks, headb dot co, dot nz.

1205
01:01:26,333 --> 01:01:30,453
Speaker 3: Right now it is twenty five minutes to eleven, digging into.

1206
01:01:30,293 --> 01:01:33,453
Speaker 2: The issues that affect you the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

1207
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Speaker 19: Is it a razor ed thing. I'm the head coach,

1208
01:01:35,893 --> 01:01:37,853
Speaker 19: therefore I get what I want and if you can't

1209
01:01:37,853 --> 01:01:39,173
Speaker 19: fit him with that, you must go.

1210
01:01:39,373 --> 01:01:40,613
Speaker 2: Is that how it worked generally?

1211
01:01:41,053 --> 01:01:43,013
Speaker 4: Well, I'd love to be a part of that.

1212
01:01:43,133 --> 01:01:44,733
Speaker 19: I can't see how you can say he will be

1213
01:01:44,853 --> 01:01:46,933
Speaker 19: in a seat, But the decision will be made in

1214
01:01:47,013 --> 01:01:49,613
Speaker 19: December of the September of the decision hasn't been that anyway.

1215
01:01:49,773 --> 01:01:52,373
Speaker 19: The good news is Liam gets it back Monday from

1216
01:01:52,453 --> 01:01:55,093
Speaker 19: six am The Mic Hosking Breakfast at the Rain drove

1217
01:01:55,133 --> 01:01:56,573
Speaker 19: of the last News Talk zed B.

1218
01:01:56,773 --> 01:02:01,013
Speaker 3: Twenty three to eleven on News Talks EDB. Maybe virtual

1219
01:02:01,093 --> 01:02:05,453
Speaker 3: reality isn't quite as appetizing as the tech companies want

1220
01:02:05,533 --> 01:02:08,013
Speaker 3: it to be. Meta has announced this week it's going

1221
01:02:08,053 --> 01:02:11,333
Speaker 3: to be calling it quits on making a really fancy

1222
01:02:11,573 --> 01:02:15,413
Speaker 3: virtual reality or mixed reality headset. This would be Meta

1223
01:02:15,613 --> 01:02:20,053
Speaker 3: or Facebook's answer to the Apple Vision Pro, which is

1224
01:02:20,093 --> 01:02:22,693
Speaker 3: the product that Apple sells a text fort. Paul Steinhouse

1225
01:02:22,773 --> 01:02:26,573
Speaker 3: is here with the details. Gilder Paul, Good morning, Jack.

1226
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I watched the Democratic National Convention too, and the

1227
01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:32,093
Speaker 18: thing that I took away from it was how much

1228
01:02:32,173 --> 01:02:36,453
Speaker 18: fun people were having together in celebrating. And then I

1229
01:02:36,573 --> 01:02:38,733
Speaker 18: see this headline. It's like, yeah, well that makes sense,

1230
01:02:38,773 --> 01:02:40,973
Speaker 18: doesn't it, because you know we had that time in

1231
01:02:41,093 --> 01:02:44,053
Speaker 18: COVID we were by ourselves and it wasn't a fun.

1232
01:02:44,733 --> 01:02:46,893
Speaker 3: It's a very good I'd never thought about that. That's

1233
01:02:46,893 --> 01:02:49,453
Speaker 3: a very astute piece of analysis. So you reckon that.

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Speaker 3: Actually instead of having virtual reality, No, I shouldn't sound

1235
01:02:52,973 --> 01:02:57,853
Speaker 3: so surprised, but instead of having instead of having a

1236
01:02:57,973 --> 01:03:00,653
Speaker 3: virtual world, actually maybe people want to hang out in

1237
01:03:00,733 --> 01:03:02,613
Speaker 3: the flesh, you know, like we always have.

1238
01:03:02,733 --> 01:03:06,253
Speaker 18: You know, like experience things together and have you know,

1239
01:03:06,813 --> 01:03:09,213
Speaker 18: tens of thousands of balloons fall on you and turn

1240
01:03:09,373 --> 01:03:12,453
Speaker 18: an arena into what looked like a ballpit. No, I

1241
01:03:12,533 --> 01:03:15,333
Speaker 18: mean like it is people like getting together. And look,

1242
01:03:15,413 --> 01:03:18,133
Speaker 18: this technology is also really hard because it not only

1243
01:03:18,773 --> 01:03:22,413
Speaker 18: needs to feel great for the user and feel because

1244
01:03:22,413 --> 01:03:23,813
Speaker 18: some of the problems at the moment is it feels

1245
01:03:23,893 --> 01:03:27,013
Speaker 18: quite heavy, it can feel quite hot, and it uses

1246
01:03:27,133 --> 01:03:31,013
Speaker 18: quite expensive technology and so you also need the content

1247
01:03:31,173 --> 01:03:32,413
Speaker 18: to go with it. It's like a chicken in the

1248
01:03:32,413 --> 01:03:34,973
Speaker 18: egg scenario, right, Like people don't want to do virtual

1249
01:03:35,013 --> 01:03:37,853
Speaker 18: reality until there's something fun to do in virtual reality,

1250
01:03:37,893 --> 01:03:39,213
Speaker 18: but they don't want to make it until people have

1251
01:03:39,333 --> 01:03:41,693
Speaker 18: head set. So Meta was trying, and they've been trying

1252
01:03:41,733 --> 01:03:44,373
Speaker 18: since November to do this headset that was going to

1253
01:03:44,453 --> 01:03:47,013
Speaker 18: try to compete with Apples three and a half thousand

1254
01:03:47,173 --> 01:03:50,493
Speaker 18: US dollar vision Pro. They were going to try to

1255
01:03:50,533 --> 01:03:52,933
Speaker 18: keep it undred thousand dollars. Apparently it was becoming harder

1256
01:03:52,973 --> 01:03:56,293
Speaker 18: and harder, so they've just called it quits. But there's

1257
01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:59,933
Speaker 18: another interesting piece there that Apple's vision Pro has also

1258
01:04:00,133 --> 01:04:04,133
Speaker 18: raally struggled to get interest from buyers and also developers,

1259
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Speaker 18: and some of the estimates actually said that Apple probably

1260
01:04:07,453 --> 01:04:09,893
Speaker 18: won't sell more than half a million of them this year,

1261
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Speaker 18: which I know, when if you take the word Apple away,

1262
01:04:13,373 --> 01:04:15,453
Speaker 18: you'd be like half a million dollars is actually pretty decent.

1263
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Speaker 18: But this is Apple, right, This is something that Tim

1264
01:04:18,533 --> 01:04:21,333
Speaker 18: Cook was kind of like this is the next frontier

1265
01:04:21,413 --> 01:04:23,213
Speaker 18: of computing and really has kind of put his name

1266
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Speaker 18: to it. And so the fact that it hasn't been

1267
01:04:26,013 --> 01:04:29,733
Speaker 18: very successful in Apple's eyes is also maybe probably signaling

1268
01:04:29,773 --> 01:04:30,133
Speaker 18: some alarm.

1269
01:04:30,213 --> 01:04:32,813
Speaker 3: Okay, so can I just ask a really simple question here?

1270
01:04:32,933 --> 01:04:35,493
Speaker 3: Just yeah, sure, I'm not the only one. What do

1271
01:04:35,653 --> 01:04:38,813
Speaker 3: people actually do with these Apple Vision pro headsets? They

1272
01:04:39,293 --> 01:04:40,493
Speaker 3: can you do game with them?

1273
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Speaker 18: Yeah, there's a lot of gaming, right, so you can

1274
01:04:43,733 --> 01:04:46,653
Speaker 18: really put yourself into that world if you're seen on

1275
01:04:46,733 --> 01:04:48,773
Speaker 18: TikTok and reels and things. There's some funny videos of

1276
01:04:48,813 --> 01:04:51,933
Speaker 18: people trying to run in virtual reality and end up

1277
01:04:52,253 --> 01:04:55,733
Speaker 18: running into walls and things like that. But they're also

1278
01:04:55,813 --> 01:04:58,573
Speaker 18: trying to really promote it meta, especially in the workplace,

1279
01:04:58,933 --> 01:05:01,293
Speaker 18: so to really take the idea of instead of just

1280
01:05:01,653 --> 01:05:06,093
Speaker 18: video conferencing to kind of like Avatar conference if you will,

1281
01:05:06,173 --> 01:05:08,693
Speaker 18: and be able to instead of having a twenty seven

1282
01:05:08,733 --> 01:05:10,613
Speaker 18: inch screen at your desk, you can put your headset

1283
01:05:10,653 --> 01:05:14,013
Speaker 18: on and have a one hundred inch screen and make

1284
01:05:14,053 --> 01:05:15,333
Speaker 18: your spreadsheets really big.

1285
01:05:15,493 --> 01:05:18,053
Speaker 2: But I think people want to be together.

1286
01:05:18,493 --> 01:05:21,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, it's interesting, Like you say,

1287
01:05:21,533 --> 01:05:23,653
Speaker 3: this might be a bit of a sign of the times.

1288
01:05:24,013 --> 01:05:28,253
Speaker 3: It's funny in the AI race, as various companies compete

1289
01:05:28,253 --> 01:05:30,493
Speaker 3: to have the right component tree that can make really

1290
01:05:30,693 --> 01:05:35,773
Speaker 3: supercharged AI systems, there have been some potentially unlikely winners,

1291
01:05:36,413 --> 01:05:38,253
Speaker 3: and Video is probably top of the list, right, and

1292
01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:42,533
Speaker 3: that's the company that was predominantly a gaming company, but

1293
01:05:42,733 --> 01:05:44,453
Speaker 3: was making these chips that can be used for AI

1294
01:05:44,613 --> 01:05:47,573
Speaker 3: and is now worth gazillions of dollars. But there is

1295
01:05:47,613 --> 01:05:49,253
Speaker 3: another surprising winner.

1296
01:05:50,053 --> 01:05:52,213
Speaker 9: Yes, mits of this hy electric.

1297
01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:55,373
Speaker 18: Can you believe the people who usually make heat pumps

1298
01:05:55,373 --> 01:05:59,693
Speaker 18: and their conditioning, Yeah, they also make the optical components

1299
01:05:59,893 --> 01:06:02,733
Speaker 18: used in the data centers to enable the really high

1300
01:06:02,853 --> 01:06:07,213
Speaker 18: speed connections between the servers that's required for AYE, and

1301
01:06:07,493 --> 01:06:11,693
Speaker 18: they these optical components jack are in mega demand. So

1302
01:06:11,773 --> 01:06:14,693
Speaker 18: they are about to ramp up their production capacity to

1303
01:06:15,213 --> 01:06:16,893
Speaker 18: basically fifty percent.

1304
01:06:16,733 --> 01:06:18,613
Speaker 3: More than what it was last year.

1305
01:06:19,293 --> 01:06:21,973
Speaker 18: And they think that even when they do that, it

1306
01:06:22,093 --> 01:06:24,053
Speaker 18: still won't be enough and they're probably going to have.

1307
01:06:24,173 --> 01:06:25,693
Speaker 2: To double that new figure.

1308
01:06:26,133 --> 01:06:27,813
Speaker 18: Wow, I'm not great at math, but that's kind of

1309
01:06:27,893 --> 01:06:29,853
Speaker 18: like three hundred percent or so, right, Like that's a

1310
01:06:30,053 --> 01:06:32,453
Speaker 18: yeig number. And they still don't even know if that's

1311
01:06:32,493 --> 01:06:34,013
Speaker 18: going to be able to do it because they're such

1312
01:06:34,013 --> 01:06:36,853
Speaker 18: a unique provider in this space and if you want

1313
01:06:36,893 --> 01:06:38,333
Speaker 18: to do a data center, you.

1314
01:06:38,493 --> 01:06:39,373
Speaker 9: Kind of need them.

1315
01:06:39,733 --> 01:06:43,573
Speaker 18: And look, the heat pump and econdigity business is probably

1316
01:06:43,653 --> 01:06:45,893
Speaker 18: not doing too bad either, because think of all the

1317
01:06:45,933 --> 01:06:48,133
Speaker 18: different things that need to go into.

1318
01:06:47,933 --> 01:06:48,653
Speaker 9: A data center.

1319
01:06:49,093 --> 01:06:51,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, security, heat and cooling.

1320
01:06:51,133 --> 01:06:53,573
Speaker 18: You know, the people staffing it, of course, but there

1321
01:06:53,653 --> 01:06:56,573
Speaker 18: must be so many players in this who are just

1322
01:06:56,653 --> 01:06:59,773
Speaker 18: seeing their businesses take off thanks to this AI tech.

1323
01:06:59,893 --> 01:07:02,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing. Hey thanks Paul. That is Paul Stineaus

1324
01:07:02,613 --> 01:07:05,293
Speaker 3: he is our texpert on Saturday Mornings and a couple

1325
01:07:05,293 --> 01:07:07,813
Speaker 3: of minutes on Newstalks said, what are the cuts to

1326
01:07:07,893 --> 01:07:11,133
Speaker 3: the OCR What is the cut to the OICR singular cut?

1327
01:07:11,293 --> 01:07:13,493
Speaker 3: For now? What's it going to mean for people who

1328
01:07:13,653 --> 01:07:17,733
Speaker 3: are thinking about refixing their mortgage? Sometimes soon? A personal

1329
01:07:17,813 --> 01:07:20,933
Speaker 3: finance expert with her tips Right now, it's eighteen to eleven.

1330
01:07:21,533 --> 01:07:23,173
Speaker 2: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

1331
01:07:23,333 --> 01:07:26,693
Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and beep

1332
01:07:26,733 --> 01:07:29,613
Speaker 1: you it dot co dot nz for high quality supplements

1333
01:07:29,813 --> 01:07:31,573
Speaker 1: used talk zenby you know have If.

1334
01:07:31,493 --> 01:07:33,373
Speaker 3: You are having a bit of a stressful time in life,

1335
01:07:33,933 --> 01:07:37,253
Speaker 3: the first thing to suffer is your sleep. It's just inevitable, right,

1336
01:07:37,293 --> 01:07:39,693
Speaker 3: It feels inevitable if you're having a tough time of things,

1337
01:07:40,133 --> 01:07:42,173
Speaker 3: You're tossing and turning, you're wide awake at night. Well

1338
01:07:42,213 --> 01:07:44,053
Speaker 3: after eleven o'clock this morning, we're going to be speaking

1339
01:07:44,093 --> 01:07:47,733
Speaker 3: with clinical psychologist Google Sutherland, who has some really practical

1340
01:07:47,813 --> 01:07:50,933
Speaker 3: tips on how to manage stress when you don't want

1341
01:07:50,973 --> 01:07:53,333
Speaker 3: it to interrupt your sleep cycles. He's got some really

1342
01:07:53,613 --> 01:07:55,533
Speaker 3: useful practical tips. So he's going to share that with

1343
01:07:55,693 --> 01:07:57,933
Speaker 3: us right now, though it is time to talk money,

1344
01:07:58,013 --> 01:08:00,373
Speaker 3: and Lisa Dudson is with us this morning.

1345
01:08:00,493 --> 01:08:02,293
Speaker 14: Killed her Good morning Jack.

1346
01:08:02,373 --> 01:08:05,333
Speaker 3: Oh well, it was the sigh of relief heard around

1347
01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:08,973
Speaker 3: the country, wasn't it. The ocr having its first cut

1348
01:08:09,173 --> 01:08:11,813
Speaker 3: just twenty five basis points for the time being, after

1349
01:08:12,093 --> 01:08:16,093
Speaker 3: a period of extended pain for many mortgage holders. But

1350
01:08:16,213 --> 01:08:19,253
Speaker 3: how do you think the average person with a mortgage

1351
01:08:19,493 --> 01:08:21,173
Speaker 3: is actually going to be reacting to this? When are

1352
01:08:21,213 --> 01:08:23,573
Speaker 3: we really going to see some significant change?

1353
01:08:24,693 --> 01:08:24,893
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1354
01:08:24,973 --> 01:08:27,093
Speaker 14: Well, I mean, look, it's good news, there's no doubt

1355
01:08:27,093 --> 01:08:28,973
Speaker 14: about that, right, But there's there's a big lag and

1356
01:08:29,053 --> 01:08:32,013
Speaker 14: that's the challenge, right because you know, interstrates went up

1357
01:08:32,093 --> 01:08:34,973
Speaker 14: quite significantly two years or so ago, but the pain

1358
01:08:35,053 --> 01:08:35,933
Speaker 14: has been felt.

1359
01:08:35,813 --> 01:08:37,893
Speaker 11: More this year than last year.

1360
01:08:38,373 --> 01:08:40,613
Speaker 14: So you know what we find now obviously his illustrates

1361
01:08:40,613 --> 01:08:42,573
Speaker 14: are starting to come down. There's lots of little cuts.

1362
01:08:43,133 --> 01:08:45,293
Speaker 14: I think you know this five point nine to nine

1363
01:08:45,293 --> 01:08:48,093
Speaker 14: percent eighteen months, which is you know, that's pretty attractive.

1364
01:08:48,773 --> 01:08:51,373
Speaker 14: We'll probably see. You know, I'm not economists, but most

1365
01:08:51,373 --> 01:08:53,333
Speaker 14: people I seem to talk to you think we'll be

1366
01:08:53,413 --> 01:08:55,573
Speaker 14: well into the low f lives by you know, the

1367
01:08:55,733 --> 01:08:58,373
Speaker 14: end of next year. That's crystal ball gazing all with it.

1368
01:08:58,533 --> 01:09:00,733
Speaker 14: But so, you know, so that's all good, right, But

1369
01:09:00,853 --> 01:09:03,173
Speaker 14: the challenge is is in New Zealands, most people have

1370
01:09:03,533 --> 01:09:06,613
Speaker 14: their interstrates fixed, so they're locked in for a period

1371
01:09:06,653 --> 01:09:09,013
Speaker 14: of time, so they won't get the benefit of that

1372
01:09:09,573 --> 01:09:13,933
Speaker 14: until their mortgages come off those fixed rates, which could

1373
01:09:14,013 --> 01:09:16,413
Speaker 14: be six, twelve, eighteen months, two years away.

1374
01:09:16,733 --> 01:09:18,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the and so this is why when

1375
01:09:19,573 --> 01:09:21,293
Speaker 3: I mean it works in both directions. Right when the

1376
01:09:21,333 --> 01:09:24,453
Speaker 3: ocr was being increased, it took a bit of time

1377
01:09:24,573 --> 01:09:27,893
Speaker 3: for the full impact of those increases to actually hit homeowners.

1378
01:09:28,093 --> 01:09:29,533
Speaker 3: Now the same thing happens in reverse.

1379
01:09:30,173 --> 01:09:32,933
Speaker 14: That's right, And I think I think the note of

1380
01:09:33,053 --> 01:09:35,853
Speaker 14: caution too is that you do have to be mindful

1381
01:09:35,893 --> 01:09:38,773
Speaker 14: about breaking your sixteen LUNs, right, because that's what a

1382
01:09:38,773 --> 01:09:40,453
Speaker 14: lot of people do. They go great with I've got

1383
01:09:40,493 --> 01:09:43,653
Speaker 14: a seven in my and my rates at the second

1384
01:09:43,693 --> 01:09:45,413
Speaker 14: ash I can get down to five point nine to nine.

1385
01:09:45,493 --> 01:09:47,333
Speaker 14: Let's go and break the rate and refix it the

1386
01:09:47,373 --> 01:09:51,213
Speaker 14: low rate. However, that's not easy because what happens is

1387
01:09:51,293 --> 01:09:55,413
Speaker 14: the bank's penalize you for breaking those rates. So if

1388
01:09:55,493 --> 01:09:57,773
Speaker 14: you have got that, if that's in your headspace and

1389
01:09:57,813 --> 01:10:00,013
Speaker 14: you're thinking about that, please please go and see your

1390
01:10:00,013 --> 01:10:03,093
Speaker 14: mortgages either and just work through the implications of that,

1391
01:10:03,813 --> 01:10:05,693
Speaker 14: because for most people you're just going to have to

1392
01:10:05,733 --> 01:10:06,253
Speaker 14: write it out.

1393
01:10:06,573 --> 01:10:08,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and it's not too complex to do

1394
01:10:08,653 --> 01:10:10,493
Speaker 3: the sums right like sometimes there can be a little

1395
01:10:10,493 --> 01:10:12,093
Speaker 3: bit of a difference, but for the most part, I mean,

1396
01:10:12,133 --> 01:10:15,613
Speaker 3: the banks are very much, you know, very familiar with

1397
01:10:15,973 --> 01:10:18,293
Speaker 3: this concept, so you know that they will you know

1398
01:10:18,373 --> 01:10:20,813
Speaker 3: there will be penalties and implications if you do decide

1399
01:10:20,853 --> 01:10:23,493
Speaker 3: to break. How do you think also, how do you

1400
01:10:23,533 --> 01:10:26,453
Speaker 3: think then that people who are going to be fixing

1401
01:10:26,533 --> 01:10:30,133
Speaker 3: sometimes soon should be should be thinking about the trajectory

1402
01:10:30,293 --> 01:10:33,413
Speaker 3: for interest rates in the OCR over the next wee

1403
01:10:33,533 --> 01:10:34,893
Speaker 3: While I don't.

1404
01:10:34,733 --> 01:10:36,293
Speaker 14: Think they need dispute that it is going to be

1405
01:10:36,413 --> 01:10:40,053
Speaker 14: heading south, right, So I guess that if you've got

1406
01:10:41,173 --> 01:10:44,413
Speaker 14: a sixtreme rate coming up for you'll fairly soon again

1407
01:10:44,493 --> 01:10:46,773
Speaker 14: talk to your mortgage advisor and get some advice, But

1408
01:10:46,893 --> 01:10:49,173
Speaker 14: you probably want to be looking at six months and

1409
01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:52,653
Speaker 14: just rolling those six months until those freaks come down.

1410
01:10:52,973 --> 01:10:55,773
Speaker 14: Although having said that, though, you know, five point ninety

1411
01:10:55,853 --> 01:11:00,013
Speaker 14: nine is probably not too bad for eighteen months, because

1412
01:11:00,013 --> 01:11:02,613
Speaker 14: if you it's that averaging out that you need to,

1413
01:11:03,693 --> 01:11:06,213
Speaker 14: you know, consider So for instance, if you've got you know,

1414
01:11:06,493 --> 01:11:10,013
Speaker 14: locking something into eighteen months, what is the amount of

1415
01:11:10,053 --> 01:11:12,493
Speaker 14: intersues you're paying versus three six months rollovers?

1416
01:11:12,693 --> 01:11:12,893
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1417
01:11:13,053 --> 01:11:14,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, Do you reckon that the banks are going to

1418
01:11:14,533 --> 01:11:15,653
Speaker 3: be really competitive over this?

1419
01:11:18,813 --> 01:11:19,133
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1420
01:11:19,213 --> 01:11:23,573
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, but I mean, I just it's

1421
01:11:23,613 --> 01:11:25,653
Speaker 3: funny because you know, like people get excited, right, so

1422
01:11:26,373 --> 01:11:28,853
Speaker 3: this feels like there's you know, like mortgage holders are

1423
01:11:30,493 --> 01:11:34,773
Speaker 3: kind of excited about the about the direction of interest

1424
01:11:34,813 --> 01:11:36,853
Speaker 3: rates over the next week while and I just wonder

1425
01:11:36,933 --> 01:11:39,853
Speaker 3: if if they are likely to be more competitive as

1426
01:11:40,013 --> 01:11:43,653
Speaker 3: rates are increasing or as rates are going down. It'll

1427
01:11:43,693 --> 01:11:44,693
Speaker 3: be interesting to see.

1428
01:11:45,933 --> 01:11:48,613
Speaker 14: You know, they're quite proactive with the pups because I think,

1429
01:11:48,653 --> 01:11:50,053
Speaker 14: you know, there is a bit of data out there

1430
01:11:50,053 --> 01:11:52,293
Speaker 14: that they are making lots cuts, but they're albit their

1431
01:11:52,373 --> 01:11:55,213
Speaker 14: tiny cap both and you know, and when they get

1432
01:11:55,253 --> 01:11:56,773
Speaker 14: the cuts, they get a bit of eartime and a

1433
01:11:56,813 --> 01:11:58,853
Speaker 14: bit of media coverage, right, so that's quite good for

1434
01:11:58,893 --> 01:12:02,373
Speaker 14: their branding. But banks make good margins, and you know,

1435
01:12:02,413 --> 01:12:04,333
Speaker 14: they make better margins than what they do in Australia

1436
01:12:04,373 --> 01:12:06,333
Speaker 14: in general, and you know they're going to be whole

1437
01:12:06,453 --> 01:12:08,373
Speaker 14: onto those margins and they need to hold onto those

1438
01:12:08,413 --> 01:12:11,173
Speaker 14: margins because they have a responsibility of these shareholders as well.

1439
01:12:11,373 --> 01:12:14,173
Speaker 14: Yeah right, so you know, you know it's hard to

1440
01:12:14,253 --> 01:12:14,613
Speaker 14: answer that.

1441
01:12:15,133 --> 01:12:17,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know if they'd be more more likely

1442
01:12:17,813 --> 01:12:19,413
Speaker 3: to be competitive on the way up and more likely

1443
01:12:19,453 --> 01:12:21,653
Speaker 3: to be competitive on the way down. Something tells me

1444
01:12:21,733 --> 01:12:23,093
Speaker 3: that at the end of the day, just like because

1445
01:12:23,133 --> 01:12:24,133
Speaker 3: we know the banks win.

1446
01:12:24,933 --> 01:12:26,693
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that thrives. You just have to

1447
01:12:26,733 --> 01:12:28,293
Speaker 14: look at these shaar prices and they dive it into

1448
01:12:28,333 --> 01:12:30,333
Speaker 14: the shareholders and the last you know, we've run and

1449
01:12:30,373 --> 01:12:32,973
Speaker 14: they've always been a great stock to invest in.

1450
01:12:33,213 --> 01:12:36,013
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, like you say, though, some

1451
01:12:36,333 --> 01:12:40,973
Speaker 3: reason for optimism for mortgage holders. Thank you so much, Lisa, Lisa, welcome, Lisa.

1452
01:12:41,053 --> 01:12:43,453
Speaker 3: Doesn't there right now? It is eleven to eleven on

1453
01:12:43,533 --> 01:12:45,133
Speaker 3: newstalks'd we're in the garden.

1454
01:12:44,933 --> 01:12:49,013
Speaker 1: Next on gardening with still Shop free accessories this winter

1455
01:12:49,253 --> 01:12:50,253
Speaker 1: at still Shop and.

1456
01:12:50,693 --> 01:12:53,053
Speaker 3: Who else but our man Rude climb pass is in

1457
01:12:53,093 --> 01:12:56,373
Speaker 3: the garden this morning. Good morning, Hi Jack.

1458
01:12:56,613 --> 01:12:58,173
Speaker 9: How's everything going at your blade?

1459
01:12:58,253 --> 01:13:01,213
Speaker 3: Yeah? Very good. Thanks we are. Look, things have are

1460
01:13:01,253 --> 01:13:03,333
Speaker 3: slowly improving. Like I said to you, we've you know,

1461
01:13:03,453 --> 01:13:07,533
Speaker 3: we've accepted that a couple of items around the Tame

1462
01:13:07,573 --> 01:13:10,253
Speaker 3: family garden that were not watered as they should have

1463
01:13:10,333 --> 01:13:13,533
Speaker 3: been last summer, those have been replaced. We've replanted. Everything's

1464
01:13:13,533 --> 01:13:15,493
Speaker 3: looking okay for the time being. I'm looking forward to

1465
01:13:15,533 --> 01:13:17,413
Speaker 3: spring a bit more blossom around our place. But the

1466
01:13:17,453 --> 01:13:19,253
Speaker 3: first of the blossom is coming through. I've even seen

1467
01:13:19,253 --> 01:13:21,413
Speaker 3: if you're dafodils around the place, so I can't own

1468
01:13:21,533 --> 01:13:21,893
Speaker 3: too much.

1469
01:13:22,653 --> 01:13:25,133
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's it's interesting here on the porthills. That told

1470
01:13:25,173 --> 01:13:28,613
Speaker 20: we have quite a few plums already flowering. Really really,

1471
01:13:28,853 --> 01:13:33,413
Speaker 20: oh Gosha, apricots in full flower. It's it's quite a

1472
01:13:33,453 --> 01:13:35,133
Speaker 20: bit early. I just had a check to my neighbor,

1473
01:13:35,613 --> 01:13:37,653
Speaker 20: the one that we're going to be talking about it.

1474
01:13:37,813 --> 01:13:40,933
Speaker 9: Yeah, same thing. Everything is a bit early. Here's crazy.

1475
01:13:41,053 --> 01:13:42,733
Speaker 9: Even their climatis is very I.

1476
01:13:42,773 --> 01:13:46,853
Speaker 3: Mean apricots and flower now, yes, mate, yes, I mean

1477
01:13:47,253 --> 01:13:49,813
Speaker 3: this isn't this is not actually a very good sign.

1478
01:13:51,133 --> 01:13:51,493
Speaker 9: Why not?

1479
01:13:52,413 --> 01:13:54,973
Speaker 3: I think I don't know if you've heard rude. And

1480
01:13:55,053 --> 01:13:56,493
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm gonna get a lot of texts about this.

1481
01:13:56,613 --> 01:14:00,693
Speaker 3: But the climate is changing, yes it is, Oh yeah, yeah,

1482
01:14:00,773 --> 01:14:01,693
Speaker 3: well yeah, but hang on.

1483
01:14:02,093 --> 01:14:06,613
Speaker 20: These plants can the depth themselves even rather fast some time.

1484
01:14:07,093 --> 01:14:09,933
Speaker 20: So if there is an earlier flowering, now we might

1485
01:14:10,053 --> 01:14:11,093
Speaker 20: have some earlier fruit.

1486
01:14:11,213 --> 01:14:13,933
Speaker 9: And that's fine. It's not a big deal. It just

1487
01:14:14,053 --> 01:14:15,813
Speaker 9: means we pay less a food town, you know what

1488
01:14:15,893 --> 01:14:16,093
Speaker 9: I mean.

1489
01:14:16,373 --> 01:14:19,133
Speaker 3: Well, if we can enjoy from that benefit, then yes,

1490
01:14:19,173 --> 01:14:20,973
Speaker 3: I'm all about it, so long as there are no.

1491
01:14:21,013 --> 01:14:23,893
Speaker 9: Downside, that's right. Anyway.

1492
01:14:24,333 --> 01:14:26,493
Speaker 20: So last a couple of about a month ago, we

1493
01:14:26,573 --> 01:14:30,973
Speaker 20: had some seriously cold midwinter nonsense going on here, and

1494
01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:34,413
Speaker 20: I thought cheapest, I know, because I'm growing this lovely

1495
01:14:34,493 --> 01:14:37,893
Speaker 20: missletoe and that I planted on a Kofi bush here

1496
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Speaker 20: in the garden.

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Speaker 9: And you know missletoes, don't you getting under the mistletoe?

1498
01:14:42,493 --> 01:14:43,493
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Well, we've got a few native quite a few native species,

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Speaker 20: and I planted one on a kofi bush with a

1502
01:14:49,133 --> 01:14:49,853
Speaker 20: sticky seed.

1503
01:14:50,613 --> 01:14:53,613
Speaker 9: And that's how the that's how that works with mistletoe.

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Speaker 20: They have a fruit if you like, and the birds

1505
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Speaker 20: like to eat the fruit and then they eat the fruit,

1506
01:14:58,813 --> 01:15:01,013
Speaker 20: but the seed is so sticky they have to wipe

1507
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Speaker 20: their bill on the branch of the tree where they

1508
01:15:04,013 --> 01:15:04,693
Speaker 20: found the seed.

1509
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Speaker 9: And this is how you get a new plant.

1510
01:15:06,573 --> 01:15:09,813
Speaker 3: It sticks to the plant, isn't it clear? Yeah, that

1511
01:15:09,973 --> 01:15:10,453
Speaker 3: is amazing.

1512
01:15:11,653 --> 01:15:15,533
Speaker 20: So that's it exactly by design. So but anyway, so

1513
01:15:15,613 --> 01:15:17,973
Speaker 20: I just made sure that I wasn't sure my missilete

1514
01:15:18,093 --> 01:15:20,053
Speaker 20: was fine. It was okay, there were a few holes

1515
01:15:20,093 --> 01:15:21,453
Speaker 20: in it was not good. But then I went to

1516
01:15:21,533 --> 01:15:25,373
Speaker 20: the cross the road and there's aforementioned mentioned neighbor, Scott.

1517
01:15:26,133 --> 01:15:28,373
Speaker 20: It's his birthday today anyway, so I had to tell

1518
01:15:28,453 --> 01:15:31,933
Speaker 20: him that I had a look to see how his

1519
01:15:32,093 --> 01:15:36,133
Speaker 20: missiletee was doing. Because his missile toe is in is

1520
01:15:36,213 --> 01:15:39,533
Speaker 20: basically on a Koprosmo view escence, which is the mingy mingi.

1521
01:15:39,973 --> 01:15:43,013
Speaker 20: That mode he named for it beautiful shrub by the way, God,

1522
01:15:43,053 --> 01:15:49,133
Speaker 20: I love reessence. And his missilete was almost completely chewed

1523
01:15:49,213 --> 01:15:52,933
Speaker 20: to bits. It was extrayed in the middle of the winter.

1524
01:15:53,493 --> 01:15:56,133
Speaker 20: So I thought, let's have a look, and I went

1525
01:15:56,213 --> 01:16:00,053
Speaker 20: and never looked down there down into the mini mingi plant,

1526
01:16:00,133 --> 01:16:03,333
Speaker 20: and there was an adult Katie did and Katie did

1527
01:16:03,413 --> 01:16:07,453
Speaker 20: is that green grasshoppery like thing with the long wings,

1528
01:16:07,613 --> 01:16:09,093
Speaker 20: long antennage and that.

1529
01:16:09,493 --> 01:16:10,053
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1530
01:16:10,093 --> 01:16:11,773
Speaker 9: And yeah, them flies or jumps away.

1531
01:16:11,853 --> 01:16:17,493
Speaker 20: That it has been literally surviving that winter's winters area

1532
01:16:17,733 --> 01:16:21,253
Speaker 20: in that mini me and eating the missilete. It was

1533
01:16:21,573 --> 01:16:25,693
Speaker 20: unbelievable because I'd a I've never seen a katie did

1534
01:16:25,813 --> 01:16:29,613
Speaker 20: in the winter time. They usually go silbat lady autumn

1535
01:16:29,653 --> 01:16:32,173
Speaker 20: and that's about it. And the second things I never

1536
01:16:32,253 --> 01:16:35,133
Speaker 20: knew they would have a go at that flashy leafy

1537
01:16:35,373 --> 01:16:36,853
Speaker 20: leaf of the missilete.

1538
01:16:37,013 --> 01:16:39,213
Speaker 9: It was extraordinary, amazing.

1539
01:16:39,293 --> 01:16:41,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen a photo through as well. Just for

1540
01:16:41,533 --> 01:16:43,813
Speaker 3: anyone who is one hundred percent of what the catyd as,

1541
01:16:43,853 --> 01:16:45,373
Speaker 3: will make sure that photo is up on the on

1542
01:16:45,453 --> 01:16:48,613
Speaker 3: the website. It looked like, to be honest, it had

1543
01:16:48,653 --> 01:16:52,453
Speaker 3: been feeding in a pretty good paddock, perfect it.

1544
01:16:55,253 --> 01:16:59,053
Speaker 20: Yeah, but that shows you that sometimes these vandals, these katis,

1545
01:16:59,453 --> 01:17:02,973
Speaker 20: they find their way to survive the winter and find

1546
01:17:03,173 --> 01:17:06,253
Speaker 20: a very good, green, green missile.

1547
01:17:06,733 --> 01:17:09,173
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think it's lovely. So they've went straight

1548
01:17:09,253 --> 01:17:10,253
Speaker 9: onto ot choice.

1549
01:17:11,773 --> 01:17:14,093
Speaker 3: Very good. Hey, thank you so much. Yeah, that's appeared,

1550
01:17:14,653 --> 01:17:16,813
Speaker 3: Like I say, we will make sure Rud's pictures are

1551
01:17:16,893 --> 01:17:18,853
Speaker 3: up on the news Talks he'd be website as well.

1552
01:17:19,013 --> 01:17:22,493
Speaker 3: Everything from our show goes up there. So the recipe

1553
01:17:22,613 --> 01:17:24,973
Speaker 3: we shared earlier earlier on this morning, that's up there.

1554
01:17:25,333 --> 01:17:28,133
Speaker 3: You can get all of our screen time, our movie picks,

1555
01:17:28,253 --> 01:17:30,653
Speaker 3: book reviews, all of that great stuff goes on the

1556
01:17:30,733 --> 01:17:33,173
Speaker 3: news talks HEB website, News Talks HEB dot co dot

1557
01:17:33,333 --> 01:17:36,693
Speaker 3: nz Ford slash Jack Thang you rude. We will catch

1558
01:17:36,733 --> 01:17:40,933
Speaker 3: you again next Saturday morning after eleven o'clock. Today we

1559
01:17:41,093 --> 01:17:43,733
Speaker 3: are well, we're shifting our focus a little bit. The

1560
01:17:43,813 --> 01:17:45,493
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks on Newstalks he'd be in our

1561
01:17:45,533 --> 01:17:47,773
Speaker 3: travel segment. We have been in the heart of the

1562
01:17:47,933 --> 01:17:50,933
Speaker 3: Mediterranean summer. Now we're going to the next best thing.

1563
01:17:51,013 --> 01:17:56,213
Speaker 3: We are exploring the cultural jewels of Graymouth. Honestly, I'm

1564
01:17:56,253 --> 01:17:58,573
Speaker 3: not actually I'm not taking the mickey. The South Islands

1565
01:17:58,613 --> 01:18:00,853
Speaker 3: West Coast, I think is the most underrated part of

1566
01:18:00,933 --> 01:18:04,093
Speaker 3: this beautiful country. News is next on Newstalk Z'B.

1567
01:18:04,653 --> 01:18:08,373
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Ta keeping the conversation going through

1568
01:18:08,453 --> 01:18:11,653
Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot Cott in here for high

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01:18:11,733 --> 01:18:13,613
Speaker 1: quality supplements used talk SEDB.

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Speaker 3: If you are just turning on the radio this morning,

1571
01:18:39,253 --> 01:18:41,173
Speaker 3: it is great to be with you, Jack Tame on

1572
01:18:41,293 --> 01:18:43,973
Speaker 3: News Talks dB through to midday Today before twelve o'clock,

1573
01:18:44,453 --> 01:18:47,773
Speaker 3: we can listen to a new album from Fontaine's DC.

1574
01:18:48,293 --> 01:18:53,213
Speaker 3: They are this Irish kind of post punk band. They're

1575
01:18:53,213 --> 01:18:55,733
Speaker 3: from Dublin. They've been been around for ten years or

1576
01:18:55,773 --> 01:18:58,333
Speaker 3: so now and they've got quite an interesting background. Apparently

1577
01:18:58,413 --> 01:19:01,773
Speaker 3: the band actually joined together through a mutual love of poetry,

1578
01:19:02,013 --> 01:19:04,293
Speaker 3: of all things, but anyway, from poetry to pop punk.

1579
01:19:05,173 --> 01:19:07,373
Speaker 3: We'll play you some of the new and before midday.

1580
01:19:07,493 --> 01:19:09,173
Speaker 3: As well as that, we're going to get our book

1581
01:19:09,173 --> 01:19:12,053
Speaker 3: reviewers thoughts on the latest Jody Pico, Friend of the Show.

1582
01:19:12,253 --> 01:19:14,773
Speaker 3: We can say that now by any other name as

1583
01:19:14,853 --> 01:19:16,973
Speaker 3: her new book. This is the amazing story of the

1584
01:19:17,093 --> 01:19:20,413
Speaker 3: woman that Jody Reckins actually wrote some of Shakespeare's most

1585
01:19:20,453 --> 01:19:23,773
Speaker 3: famous works. Right now, it is eight minutes past eleven, Jack,

1586
01:19:24,533 --> 01:19:26,973
Speaker 3: and time to get up with our clinical psychologist. Google

1587
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Speaker 3: some of them from Umbrella Well Being Killder Google Sorder.

1588
01:19:30,973 --> 01:19:33,293
Speaker 11: Jack, it was interesting you were talking about Shakespeare. I

1589
01:19:33,453 --> 01:19:35,933
Speaker 11: was out out with a group of friends on Susday

1590
01:19:35,973 --> 01:19:38,453
Speaker 11: night at the pub and people started quoting Shakespeare at

1591
01:19:38,493 --> 01:19:40,973
Speaker 11: one another. It was quite a surreal experience from.

1592
01:19:41,373 --> 01:19:44,573
Speaker 3: That's very sophisticated. Google, that's very no doubt you were

1593
01:19:44,613 --> 01:19:48,453
Speaker 3: there just reeling off a few soliloquies yourself a few

1594
01:19:48,493 --> 01:19:51,373
Speaker 3: hours about discontents, my gloriou summer by the son.

1595
01:19:52,813 --> 01:19:53,213
Speaker 4: You're doing.

1596
01:19:53,293 --> 01:19:55,773
Speaker 11: I know a couple of my friends who got PhDs

1597
01:19:55,773 --> 01:19:59,213
Speaker 11: in English literature, and that was like, oh my god,

1598
01:19:59,293 --> 01:20:02,573
Speaker 11: this is quite this. Then we got the swapping brisket recipes,

1599
01:20:03,373 --> 01:20:07,253
Speaker 11: a very interesting, very interesting evening that we're very pleasurable.

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01:20:07,293 --> 01:20:10,653
Speaker 3: Indeed, Yeah, you've got you've got multiple friends with PhDs

1601
01:20:10,733 --> 01:20:11,813
Speaker 3: and English literature.

1602
01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:15,053
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, one used to lecture in the States, and

1603
01:20:15,133 --> 01:20:18,453
Speaker 11: another has got a one of those high achievers who's

1604
01:20:18,453 --> 01:20:21,133
Speaker 11: got a law degree and a pH d in English.

1605
01:20:21,133 --> 01:20:23,533
Speaker 3: Slap, it wasn't a bill English, doesn't I don't think

1606
01:20:23,573 --> 01:20:25,973
Speaker 3: he is a PhD. Isn't a billing study English literature?

1607
01:20:26,293 --> 01:20:26,973
Speaker 3: Could be wrong on me?

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01:20:27,813 --> 01:20:30,853
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's a wonderful thing to be perfectly

1609
01:20:30,893 --> 01:20:32,533
Speaker 11: honest and or look at those people in some sort

1610
01:20:32,573 --> 01:20:34,093
Speaker 11: of envy and going gosh, I wish I had that

1611
01:20:34,213 --> 01:20:37,053
Speaker 11: knowledge of literature and books that you did.

1612
01:20:37,133 --> 01:20:39,853
Speaker 3: But there, oh, very good. Hey, I was saying before

1613
01:20:39,853 --> 01:20:42,613
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock this morning. If you are going through a

1614
01:20:42,653 --> 01:20:46,213
Speaker 3: stressful period, one of, if and I'm speaking from personal

1615
01:20:46,253 --> 01:20:48,813
Speaker 3: experience here, one of, if not the very first things

1616
01:20:49,413 --> 01:20:52,533
Speaker 3: to suffer is sleep. Right That that almost is like

1617
01:20:52,613 --> 01:20:56,453
Speaker 3: the perfect barometer of stress, I reckon, because if you

1618
01:20:56,573 --> 01:20:59,773
Speaker 3: are stressed, and you're anything like me, you cannot get

1619
01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:00,533
Speaker 3: a good night's sleep.

1620
01:21:01,653 --> 01:21:04,573
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I absolutely agree, and I've had the same

1621
01:21:04,613 --> 01:21:07,333
Speaker 11: I've had a stressful period of last few weeks and

1622
01:21:07,493 --> 01:21:10,893
Speaker 11: my sleep has been disrupted. One of my colleagues talks

1623
01:21:10,933 --> 01:21:13,933
Speaker 11: about how sleep is the canary and the cold for

1624
01:21:14,053 --> 01:21:17,853
Speaker 11: when things aren't going particularly well, and you're absolutely right,

1625
01:21:17,973 --> 01:21:22,613
Speaker 11: it's one of the first signs you know that period

1626
01:21:22,853 --> 01:21:25,533
Speaker 11: either well, it seems to fall into sort of three categories.

1627
01:21:25,573 --> 01:21:27,413
Speaker 11: Either you can't get to sleep when you go to bed,

1628
01:21:27,573 --> 01:21:28,973
Speaker 11: or you wake up in the middle of the night,

1629
01:21:29,213 --> 01:21:31,453
Speaker 11: or you wake up much earlier than you want to.

1630
01:21:31,533 --> 01:21:33,053
Speaker 11: You know, you do to get up at six or

1631
01:21:33,093 --> 01:21:35,573
Speaker 11: something and you're awake at four point thirty and can't

1632
01:21:35,613 --> 01:21:38,813
Speaker 11: get back to sleep. So and very often it's a

1633
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:42,573
Speaker 11: symptom of stress. So it's annoying, but it's also a

1634
01:21:42,613 --> 01:21:44,293
Speaker 11: good thing for people to pay attention to and go,

1635
01:21:44,453 --> 01:21:45,773
Speaker 11: oh yeah, something might be going.

1636
01:21:45,653 --> 01:21:48,853
Speaker 3: On for me. So yeah, I mean usually you can

1637
01:21:48,893 --> 01:21:52,653
Speaker 3: connect the dots right. Again, speaking for a personal experience,

1638
01:21:52,773 --> 01:21:55,893
Speaker 3: if I'm stressed, I lie in bed. Usually I can

1639
01:21:55,973 --> 01:21:59,013
Speaker 3: get to sleep, usually not always, but then I wake

1640
01:21:59,133 --> 01:22:00,653
Speaker 3: up and I just can't. And then I'm done. I

1641
01:22:00,733 --> 01:22:03,013
Speaker 3: cannot get back to sleep. I'm sitting there tossing and turning,

1642
01:22:03,573 --> 01:22:07,613
Speaker 3: stealing over whatever it is that I'm stressing. So what

1643
01:22:07,813 --> 01:22:11,453
Speaker 3: are some really practical tips on trying to manage that anxiety.

1644
01:22:12,653 --> 01:22:15,773
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm the same. I sort of wake up. I've

1645
01:22:15,813 --> 01:22:18,173
Speaker 11: been waking up at sort of three or three thirty

1646
01:22:19,493 --> 01:22:21,693
Speaker 11: and trying to get back to sleep. Look, I think

1647
01:22:21,813 --> 01:22:25,933
Speaker 11: particularly when that happens for somebody when they wake up

1648
01:22:25,973 --> 01:22:27,493
Speaker 11: in the middle of the night like that, if you

1649
01:22:27,933 --> 01:22:31,453
Speaker 11: haven't got back to sleep after about fifteen minutes, then

1650
01:22:31,493 --> 01:22:35,413
Speaker 11: you're not really falling anybody. You're probably not going back

1651
01:22:35,453 --> 01:22:38,533
Speaker 11: to sleep. You're in a state of state of alertness,

1652
01:22:38,573 --> 01:22:42,493
Speaker 11: so your brain's quite alert, and that's really not a

1653
01:22:42,613 --> 01:22:44,973
Speaker 11: type your brain's not really able to go to sleep. So,

1654
01:22:45,853 --> 01:22:47,813
Speaker 11: particularly for those people that wake up in the middle

1655
01:22:47,813 --> 01:22:50,893
Speaker 11: of the night, a really good thing, a very useful thing,

1656
01:22:51,493 --> 01:22:53,213
Speaker 11: if you can do it, is actually to get out

1657
01:22:53,253 --> 01:22:57,093
Speaker 11: of bed. So get out of bed, keep warm, and

1658
01:22:57,213 --> 01:23:00,933
Speaker 11: then go and do something two choices. You can don't

1659
01:23:00,973 --> 01:23:04,573
Speaker 11: do something really boring, like I remember somebody saying, oh,

1660
01:23:04,613 --> 01:23:06,213
Speaker 11: I go and do the eyening, and I was thinking, well,

1661
01:23:06,253 --> 01:23:09,933
Speaker 11: that could have some dangerous consequences if you leave the

1662
01:23:10,013 --> 01:23:10,413
Speaker 11: iron on.

1663
01:23:10,573 --> 01:23:11,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, so do that.

1664
01:23:12,453 --> 01:23:14,893
Speaker 11: Or if you've got something rushing around and round in

1665
01:23:14,973 --> 01:23:17,293
Speaker 11: your head like I often do, then get a pen

1666
01:23:17,373 --> 01:23:20,413
Speaker 11: and a piece of paper and just just write. Don't

1667
01:23:20,453 --> 01:23:23,333
Speaker 11: worry about punctuational grammar or spelling anything like that. Just

1668
01:23:23,413 --> 01:23:25,213
Speaker 11: write and write and write and write and write, and

1669
01:23:25,373 --> 01:23:28,373
Speaker 11: basically trying. You're trying to write out what is in

1670
01:23:28,493 --> 01:23:31,893
Speaker 11: your brain. And eventually, after twenty minutes or so, you'll

1671
01:23:31,893 --> 01:23:34,853
Speaker 11: probably you'll probably get a bit You're writing will slow down,

1672
01:23:34,893 --> 01:23:36,413
Speaker 11: and you'll be a bit tired and your brain will

1673
01:23:36,453 --> 01:23:39,453
Speaker 11: be a bit exhausted. And then when you're feeling tired,

1674
01:23:39,693 --> 01:23:41,213
Speaker 11: go back to sleep, or try to go back to

1675
01:23:41,213 --> 01:23:41,693
Speaker 11: sleep again.

1676
01:23:41,773 --> 01:23:41,893
Speaker 16: Right.

1677
01:23:41,973 --> 01:23:45,173
Speaker 3: That's a good tip and really important to distinguish it there,

1678
01:23:45,533 --> 01:23:47,653
Speaker 3: you say, with a pen and pad, a pen and

1679
01:23:47,653 --> 01:23:50,773
Speaker 3: piece of paper, as opposed to getting the laptop open

1680
01:23:50,973 --> 01:23:53,733
Speaker 3: and having that the digital device open. Right, because then

1681
01:23:53,733 --> 01:23:56,373
Speaker 3: you're getting stimulated, then you're going on to trade me,

1682
01:23:56,493 --> 01:23:57,933
Speaker 3: then you're doing all sorts of other things.

1683
01:23:58,053 --> 01:24:02,693
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. You're really trying to the method behind

1684
01:24:02,733 --> 01:24:06,373
Speaker 11: the madness, as you're trying to essentially kind of exhaust

1685
01:24:06,573 --> 01:24:10,813
Speaker 11: your brain and externalize what is in your heads, because

1686
01:24:10,853 --> 01:24:13,173
Speaker 11: some of the reason that you that your brain is

1687
01:24:13,293 --> 01:24:15,333
Speaker 11: keeping you awake is it's saying to you, have this

1688
01:24:15,493 --> 01:24:18,053
Speaker 11: thing that you're worried about is really important. Don't forget it.

1689
01:24:18,133 --> 01:24:20,293
Speaker 11: Don't forget it, don't try and work it out. Try

1690
01:24:20,333 --> 01:24:23,133
Speaker 11: and work it out. And if you've written it down

1691
01:24:23,173 --> 01:24:25,853
Speaker 11: on a piece of paper, you can you can sort

1692
01:24:25,893 --> 01:24:27,773
Speaker 11: of reassure your brain and say, it's all right, brain,

1693
01:24:27,813 --> 01:24:29,653
Speaker 11: I've got that, we've written it down. I'll come back

1694
01:24:29,693 --> 01:24:32,053
Speaker 11: to this in the morning, and you can sort of

1695
01:24:32,093 --> 01:24:34,013
Speaker 11: mentally tell your brain that that's the case and just

1696
01:24:34,053 --> 01:24:35,653
Speaker 11: give it a little bit of peace. But you don't,

1697
01:24:35,733 --> 01:24:38,533
Speaker 11: don't don't go into your laptop. You'll get distracted or

1698
01:24:38,613 --> 01:24:40,773
Speaker 11: it will make you think more about work, which is

1699
01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:42,813
Speaker 11: possibly the thing that's stressing you out in the first place.

1700
01:24:42,933 --> 01:24:43,053
Speaker 6: Right.

1701
01:24:43,213 --> 01:24:45,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, that makes sense. Try to resist the urge

1702
01:24:45,893 --> 01:24:46,533
Speaker 3: to sleep in.

1703
01:24:48,133 --> 01:24:52,893
Speaker 11: Yeah, putting aside weekends, because you know, I think we

1704
01:24:52,973 --> 01:24:54,053
Speaker 11: all like to have a bit of a sleep in

1705
01:24:54,053 --> 01:24:58,853
Speaker 11: the weekends. But sleep is really looking to sleep will

1706
01:24:58,893 --> 01:25:01,053
Speaker 11: do anything it can to get into a routine, and

1707
01:25:01,133 --> 01:25:03,653
Speaker 11: it doesn't necessarily distinguish what's a good routine or a

1708
01:25:03,733 --> 01:25:07,973
Speaker 11: bad routine. So you need to have some control over that.

1709
01:25:08,133 --> 01:25:10,613
Speaker 11: So if your regular wake up times, whatever it is,

1710
01:25:10,693 --> 01:25:13,133
Speaker 11: six thirty in the morning, even if you've had a

1711
01:25:13,293 --> 01:25:16,413
Speaker 11: terrible night's sleep, try and stick to getting up at

1712
01:25:16,453 --> 01:25:18,893
Speaker 11: six thirty in the morning or whatever your time is,

1713
01:25:19,493 --> 01:25:22,453
Speaker 11: rather than sleeping in to try and catch up, because

1714
01:25:22,813 --> 01:25:24,973
Speaker 11: there's sort of a knock on effect if you then

1715
01:25:25,093 --> 01:25:27,253
Speaker 11: sleep in for another hour, then when you come to

1716
01:25:27,293 --> 01:25:29,253
Speaker 11: go to bed at night, you won't be tired for

1717
01:25:29,333 --> 01:25:32,253
Speaker 11: another hour and your whole cycle starts to get out

1718
01:25:32,293 --> 01:25:35,333
Speaker 11: of whack. And it's really I know, this is really tough,

1719
01:25:35,413 --> 01:25:37,973
Speaker 11: because you know you've just perhaps got to sleep and

1720
01:25:38,053 --> 01:25:42,133
Speaker 11: you're rousing yourself. But do try and keep into that

1721
01:25:42,333 --> 01:25:44,773
Speaker 11: routine if it's all possible. It's way better for you

1722
01:25:44,893 --> 01:25:45,693
Speaker 11: in the longer term.

1723
01:25:46,133 --> 01:25:48,813
Speaker 3: Exactly the same thing applies for napping the afternoon. Right

1724
01:25:49,173 --> 01:25:51,053
Speaker 3: You don't want to go too crazy even if you've

1725
01:25:51,053 --> 01:25:52,293
Speaker 3: missed out on sleep the night before.

1726
01:25:53,293 --> 01:25:58,093
Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly the same thing. It's routine. I'm lucky enough.

1727
01:25:58,173 --> 01:26:01,853
Speaker 11: In the last probably three or four years, I've somehow

1728
01:26:02,013 --> 01:26:04,533
Speaker 11: mastered the art of having a twenty minute nap in

1729
01:26:04,613 --> 01:26:10,453
Speaker 11: the not at work work quill. Yeah, but during the weekend,

1730
01:26:10,653 --> 01:26:14,053
Speaker 11: and honestly, it's it's amazing. It's just sort of immediate refresh.

1731
01:26:14,133 --> 01:26:17,053
Speaker 11: But if you it has to be about twenty minutes

1732
01:26:17,173 --> 01:26:19,373
Speaker 11: or less. If it's longer, you'll get into your big

1733
01:26:19,493 --> 01:26:22,693
Speaker 11: sleep side yea, and rarely start to disrupt things so

1734
01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:25,133
Speaker 11: that you can nap for twenty twenty minutes or let's

1735
01:26:25,133 --> 01:26:28,333
Speaker 11: sit an alarm, but don't do it for any longer

1736
01:26:28,413 --> 01:26:31,053
Speaker 11: than that, even if your dog tie, and try and

1737
01:26:31,173 --> 01:26:34,333
Speaker 11: keep your tiredness and your sleep for the for the

1738
01:26:34,653 --> 01:26:35,293
Speaker 11: for the nighttime.

1739
01:26:35,453 --> 01:26:37,933
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I have the problem with because I love

1740
01:26:37,973 --> 01:26:42,253
Speaker 3: a nap. Oh yeah, thats me, like the heaven knows no, please,

1741
01:26:42,253 --> 01:26:44,533
Speaker 3: are like an afternoon nap. But my problem is that

1742
01:26:44,573 --> 01:26:46,533
Speaker 3: I either can't get to sleep, or if I do,

1743
01:26:46,973 --> 01:26:49,493
Speaker 3: I get into that long you know, like I sleep

1744
01:26:49,573 --> 01:26:51,373
Speaker 3: for a solid hour and then I wake up and

1745
01:26:52,333 --> 01:26:54,693
Speaker 3: you know, there's something about waking up from an afternoon nap.

1746
01:26:55,093 --> 01:26:57,413
Speaker 3: That is just so much ruder than waking up in

1747
01:26:57,453 --> 01:26:59,693
Speaker 3: the morning. You always look, you always wake up. You

1748
01:26:59,733 --> 01:27:02,253
Speaker 3: got to dry mouth, and you look terrible. It takes

1749
01:27:02,253 --> 01:27:04,893
Speaker 3: about an hour just to get back into you know,

1750
01:27:05,053 --> 01:27:07,093
Speaker 3: back into the rhythm of your day's I don't know

1751
01:27:07,133 --> 01:27:10,853
Speaker 3: what it is. Yeah, and it's that terrible groggy feeling

1752
01:27:11,693 --> 01:27:12,613
Speaker 3: and you ggy.

1753
01:27:12,813 --> 01:27:16,893
Speaker 11: You've probably interrupted that sleep cycle, so you've possibly come

1754
01:27:16,973 --> 01:27:20,133
Speaker 11: out of sleep when you're in a deep sleep rather

1755
01:27:20,253 --> 01:27:22,573
Speaker 11: than in your light like the stages of sleep. And

1756
01:27:22,693 --> 01:27:25,933
Speaker 11: that's and so yeah, look, even if you just lie

1757
01:27:25,973 --> 01:27:27,653
Speaker 11: and have a rest and set your alarm for twenty

1758
01:27:27,693 --> 01:27:30,373
Speaker 11: minutes or twenty five minutes or so, that's probably okay.

1759
01:27:30,453 --> 01:27:33,053
Speaker 11: Even if you don't sleep, but do try to resist

1760
01:27:33,093 --> 01:27:35,453
Speaker 11: the urge to sleep on and on even though you

1761
01:27:35,613 --> 01:27:37,613
Speaker 11: want to and oh gosh, I really need it. Just

1762
01:27:38,053 --> 01:27:40,933
Speaker 11: try and bank up your sleep for nighttime because that's

1763
01:27:40,933 --> 01:27:41,613
Speaker 11: when you really.

1764
01:27:41,493 --> 01:27:41,933
Speaker 2: Want to do it.

1765
01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:44,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll appreciate it later on. Thank you so much,

1766
01:27:44,253 --> 01:27:48,013
Speaker 3: Doogle great practical tips As always Googles. I learned from

1767
01:27:48,173 --> 01:27:50,213
Speaker 3: Umbrella Wellbeing at sixteen past eleven.

1768
01:27:51,693 --> 01:27:55,893
Speaker 1: Travel with Wendy wo Tours unique fully inclusive tours around

1769
01:27:55,973 --> 01:27:56,573
Speaker 1: the world.

1770
01:27:56,613 --> 01:27:59,493
Speaker 3: Man, We're just about to connect with our travel correspondent

1771
01:27:59,573 --> 01:28:01,933
Speaker 3: Mike Yardly before we do, though, just see, you know,

1772
01:28:02,093 --> 01:28:04,053
Speaker 3: I double checked it. I just double checked it. I

1773
01:28:04,093 --> 01:28:06,293
Speaker 3: googled it in the ad Brakes. Yes, Bill English did

1774
01:28:06,413 --> 01:28:09,493
Speaker 3: study English literature. He did an honors degree at Victoria University.

1775
01:28:09,533 --> 01:28:11,573
Speaker 3: So there you go, myke Godly as well us this morning.

1776
01:28:11,573 --> 01:28:14,053
Speaker 3: Good morning sent, Good morning Jack's.

1777
01:28:14,173 --> 01:28:17,773
Speaker 11: But speaking of politics, is it true that Carmela is

1778
01:28:18,013 --> 01:28:20,653
Speaker 11: finally going to face the press and she's booked in

1779
01:28:20,813 --> 01:28:21,773
Speaker 11: for Q and A tomorrow.

1780
01:28:21,933 --> 01:28:27,093
Speaker 3: Ah, as great as my production team is on Q

1781
01:28:27,253 --> 01:28:30,933
Speaker 3: and A, as keen as they are in pursuing big

1782
01:28:31,053 --> 01:28:34,333
Speaker 3: names for the show. Sadly, I have to report that

1783
01:28:34,413 --> 01:28:37,253
Speaker 3: Carmela will not be appearing tomorrow. Although it's about times

1784
01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:39,453
Speaker 3: she did an interview. There's no excuse now, right, she's

1785
01:28:39,453 --> 01:28:42,053
Speaker 3: done the Now the Convention, she is officially the nominee.

1786
01:28:42,093 --> 01:28:44,613
Speaker 3: I think I can Yeah, they can justify holding it

1787
01:28:44,693 --> 01:28:46,213
Speaker 3: until now, but she's going to have to come under

1788
01:28:46,213 --> 01:28:49,173
Speaker 3: a bit more scrutiny, I reckon. So eventually, what did

1789
01:28:49,213 --> 01:28:51,093
Speaker 3: you make of the Convention of what you saw of

1790
01:28:51,133 --> 01:28:51,413
Speaker 3: it night?

1791
01:28:52,213 --> 01:28:54,773
Speaker 11: Yeah, full tilt? Wasn't it absolute raise?

1792
01:28:54,853 --> 01:28:55,253
Speaker 4: Mataires.

1793
01:28:56,013 --> 01:28:59,453
Speaker 11: I'm always intrigued how the Democrats seem to be so

1794
01:28:59,773 --> 01:29:04,013
Speaker 11: tethered to the celebrity elite of the states. They seem

1795
01:29:04,053 --> 01:29:05,693
Speaker 11: to go hand in hand, don't they.

1796
01:29:06,573 --> 01:29:09,173
Speaker 3: They do, Although Beyonce did in front. There was their

1797
01:29:09,213 --> 01:29:11,493
Speaker 3: whole rumor that Beyonce was going to be closing it out,

1798
01:29:11,533 --> 01:29:12,733
Speaker 3: but she wasn't there.

1799
01:29:13,853 --> 01:29:14,333
Speaker 11: That's true.

1800
01:29:14,493 --> 01:29:19,613
Speaker 3: Although well, yeah, one of my strange highlights, and this

1801
01:29:19,813 --> 01:29:23,733
Speaker 3: might be lost on all, but the keenest of American

1802
01:29:23,813 --> 01:29:26,373
Speaker 3: hip hop fans, was when they were introducing the different

1803
01:29:26,413 --> 01:29:28,453
Speaker 3: delegates from different states. You know, they have this thing

1804
01:29:28,533 --> 01:29:30,613
Speaker 3: called the role call, and so they call up people

1805
01:29:30,653 --> 01:29:34,213
Speaker 3: from yeah, Minnesota, and here's Nebraska and blah blah blah.

1806
01:29:34,613 --> 01:29:37,293
Speaker 3: And when they called out Georgia, the state of Georgia,

1807
01:29:37,693 --> 01:29:42,853
Speaker 3: they had Lil John, who is who's a Southern rapper,

1808
01:29:43,133 --> 01:29:45,973
Speaker 3: and he just he came out and started rapping as

1809
01:29:46,053 --> 01:29:48,013
Speaker 3: their answer to the roll call, which I thought was

1810
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:51,293
Speaker 3: was unique. I couldn't couldn't picture that happening at a

1811
01:29:51,733 --> 01:29:54,373
Speaker 3: national or labor party conference here in New Zealand. A

1812
01:29:54,693 --> 01:29:58,093
Speaker 3: little bit different to say the least. Anyway, Hey, we're

1813
01:29:58,093 --> 01:30:00,333
Speaker 3: focusing on Graymouth this morning. I was saying before the

1814
01:30:00,413 --> 01:30:02,413
Speaker 3: west coast of South Island. I just think it is

1815
01:30:02,493 --> 01:30:06,293
Speaker 3: one of the most beautiful, underrated parts of New Zea.

1816
01:30:06,453 --> 01:30:09,733
Speaker 3: And the latest attraction in town and Graymouth worth the

1817
01:30:09,773 --> 01:30:12,653
Speaker 3: trip alone is the Ponamu Pathway.

1818
01:30:12,253 --> 01:30:16,893
Speaker 11: Marfetta absolutely extraordinary, Jack, Yes, we're at workshop. They teamed

1819
01:30:16,973 --> 01:30:21,693
Speaker 11: up with poteeny Nitahu to create four Ponamu Pathway experience centers,

1820
01:30:21,733 --> 01:30:24,733
Speaker 11: so they're strung along the west coast. The Graymouth Center

1821
01:30:24,893 --> 01:30:29,493
Speaker 11: MARFAA opened about nine months ago and you've got the

1822
01:30:29,733 --> 01:30:35,253
Speaker 11: stirring storytelling and all of that technological wizardry. The center

1823
01:30:35,813 --> 01:30:39,333
Speaker 11: on the old Revington's Hotel site in Greymouth, which is

1824
01:30:39,493 --> 01:30:43,853
Speaker 11: such a great location because previously that was the historic

1825
01:30:44,053 --> 01:30:46,333
Speaker 11: site of Marfetta par Yeah.

1826
01:30:46,693 --> 01:30:50,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it looks amazing from what I've seen, just gorgeous.

1827
01:30:50,053 --> 01:30:51,813
Speaker 3: So talk us through some of the features. There's that

1828
01:30:51,933 --> 01:30:53,813
Speaker 3: giant sculpture of two Hoodoo.

1829
01:30:54,813 --> 01:30:57,853
Speaker 11: Yes, so if you've been to the Gallipoli exhibition to

1830
01:30:57,933 --> 01:31:02,253
Speaker 11: Papa and marveled over those enormous sculptures, you will be

1831
01:31:02,613 --> 01:31:06,733
Speaker 11: equally awestruck by the center's starring attraction in Graymouth. This

1832
01:31:07,133 --> 01:31:10,573
Speaker 11: giant sculpture of tou Hudu, and I have to say, Jack,

1833
01:31:10,653 --> 01:31:13,853
Speaker 11: my heart skipped a beach as I gazed up close

1834
01:31:14,093 --> 01:31:19,933
Speaker 11: in the awe of just the hyperreality of this warrior chief.

1835
01:31:20,173 --> 01:31:22,453
Speaker 11: And I mean he was actually seven feet tall in

1836
01:31:22,533 --> 01:31:29,293
Speaker 11: real life apparently what this Wow? Yeah, great basketballer, but

1837
01:31:30,253 --> 01:31:34,733
Speaker 11: this super sized sculpture spans about four meters, so we

1838
01:31:34,853 --> 01:31:38,333
Speaker 11: are talking gigantic, and he was a giant. He was

1839
01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:41,853
Speaker 11: the warrior chief who led Nitahu's conquest of the West

1840
01:31:41,893 --> 01:31:46,573
Speaker 11: coast in the Ponamu trade. And you kind of expect

1841
01:31:46,653 --> 01:31:49,813
Speaker 11: him to spring into life as you're standing beneath him.

1842
01:31:50,293 --> 01:31:53,853
Speaker 11: He's been magnificently adorned with all of these waven accessories

1843
01:31:54,213 --> 01:31:59,733
Speaker 11: and the world's largest known ponamu hatiki that the pendant

1844
01:31:59,813 --> 01:32:02,333
Speaker 11: around his neck weighs eight kilogram.

1845
01:32:02,533 --> 01:32:05,853
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's incredible. How did Nita who navigate

1846
01:32:05,933 --> 01:32:07,893
Speaker 3: across the else to the ponama on the west coast.

1847
01:32:08,773 --> 01:32:11,333
Speaker 11: I just was blown away by the history that the

1848
01:32:11,453 --> 01:32:14,533
Speaker 11: center showcases. So I wasn't aware of this, but Nati

1849
01:32:14,613 --> 01:32:18,053
Speaker 11: White Ungy first settled on the West coast from Taranaki

1850
01:32:18,133 --> 01:32:21,093
Speaker 11: in the fifteen hundreds. Nita, who of course were over

1851
01:32:21,213 --> 01:32:23,373
Speaker 11: on the other side of the mountains out east. They

1852
01:32:23,453 --> 01:32:27,093
Speaker 11: were very eager to get their hands on the Uponamu trade,

1853
01:32:27,173 --> 01:32:32,133
Speaker 11: so they first destroyed Nati White onions part at Mafeta

1854
01:32:32,973 --> 01:32:35,373
Speaker 11: before conquering the wide a west coast. But the amazing

1855
01:32:35,493 --> 01:32:40,533
Speaker 11: thing jack all began with this young Wahini, a young

1856
01:32:40,613 --> 01:32:44,493
Speaker 11: woman from the Nati White Ungee called Roreca, and she

1857
01:32:44,853 --> 01:32:48,093
Speaker 11: found a route across the Southern Alps from the Arrahura

1858
01:32:48,333 --> 01:32:51,013
Speaker 11: Valley just south of Arthur's Pass at the head of

1859
01:32:51,053 --> 01:32:53,733
Speaker 11: the head of the Wilberforce River. So this was around

1860
01:32:53,813 --> 01:32:57,493
Speaker 11: seventeen fifty And as you learn at the center and Graymouth,

1861
01:32:57,573 --> 01:33:01,333
Speaker 11: when she crossed over what we know today is Browning's Pass,

1862
01:33:02,133 --> 01:33:05,373
Speaker 11: she came across a Nightahu hunting party who are up

1863
01:33:05,413 --> 01:33:08,693
Speaker 11: in the hills from out east. She showed them the

1864
01:33:08,773 --> 01:33:13,013
Speaker 11: way across the mountains from the east and his history.

1865
01:33:13,333 --> 01:33:17,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing, okay. And the thing about Ponamu is

1866
01:33:17,133 --> 01:33:20,133
Speaker 3: that it isn't just that beautiful deep green color.

1867
01:33:20,933 --> 01:33:24,093
Speaker 11: That's right. As much as that is a beautiful color,

1868
01:33:24,493 --> 01:33:27,533
Speaker 11: it with Captain Kok who called it Greenstone. I went

1869
01:33:28,053 --> 01:33:32,093
Speaker 11: just out of Greymouth by Shantytown to Garth Wilson studio

1870
01:33:32,213 --> 01:33:35,693
Speaker 11: now Garth is one of the coasts best known ponamu covers.

1871
01:33:35,933 --> 01:33:38,333
Speaker 11: He started gathering stone from the rivers when he was

1872
01:33:38,413 --> 01:33:42,333
Speaker 11: a really small boy with his father And when you

1873
01:33:42,413 --> 01:33:45,133
Speaker 11: go to a studio you will see these a variety

1874
01:33:45,253 --> 01:33:50,293
Speaker 11: of hues. So, for example, Tutu Weka ponamu has this

1875
01:33:50,533 --> 01:33:54,973
Speaker 11: distinct blood red coloring that's found in the Ardahura River

1876
01:33:55,613 --> 01:34:00,733
Speaker 11: and also from the Ardahura Cocapoo ponamu which takes on

1877
01:34:00,893 --> 01:34:07,933
Speaker 11: the similar gray spotted patterning of a speckled trout, absolutely extrawd. So, yeah,

1878
01:34:08,413 --> 01:34:11,093
Speaker 11: gufts pieces are magnificent, but you just get a great

1879
01:34:11,173 --> 01:34:15,293
Speaker 11: insight into the variety of ponamu Hughes at his studio.

1880
01:34:15,493 --> 01:34:18,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just north of Greymouth tell us about breakers.

1881
01:34:19,333 --> 01:34:21,253
Speaker 11: Well, if you've ever been on the Great Coast Road

1882
01:34:21,533 --> 01:34:25,093
Speaker 11: and you've stopped at that Strongman Mine Memorial at that

1883
01:34:25,213 --> 01:34:29,453
Speaker 11: lookout point which is one of the great sprawling coastal

1884
01:34:29,573 --> 01:34:33,253
Speaker 11: vistas from the highway, if you've been there, you may

1885
01:34:33,333 --> 01:34:36,293
Speaker 11: have noticed there's this property sort of just tucked away,

1886
01:34:37,013 --> 01:34:39,973
Speaker 11: set back from the beach on a terrace, wrapped in

1887
01:34:40,093 --> 01:34:43,853
Speaker 11: native bosh, basking in the solitude. Well, you can stay here,

1888
01:34:44,293 --> 01:34:48,573
Speaker 11: So it's called Breakers Boutique Accommodation. It actually began life

1889
01:34:48,613 --> 01:34:52,093
Speaker 11: as Dr Dallas's house and Doctor Dallas was the mayor,

1890
01:34:52,533 --> 01:34:55,693
Speaker 11: and the story goes that this was actually harborboard lands

1891
01:34:55,773 --> 01:34:59,573
Speaker 11: Jack and you shouldn't have actually built on it, but hey,

1892
01:34:59,653 --> 01:35:03,853
Speaker 11: when you're the mayor, so it's now a fabulous spot

1893
01:35:03,933 --> 01:35:08,653
Speaker 11: to stay and directly behind yourcommodation. This absolutely blew my mind.

1894
01:35:09,053 --> 01:35:13,333
Speaker 11: There are kiwi in the boss right next to the highway.

1895
01:35:13,773 --> 01:35:17,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing, like meters away.

1896
01:35:17,013 --> 01:35:18,893
Speaker 11: A yeah, yeah totally.

1897
01:35:19,253 --> 01:35:21,653
Speaker 3: And what about nine Mile Beach? What makes it so special?

1898
01:35:22,453 --> 01:35:24,573
Speaker 11: Yes, well, if you wander down from Breakers, I've got

1899
01:35:24,573 --> 01:35:26,573
Speaker 11: a private track down to the beach and a lot

1900
01:35:26,613 --> 01:35:29,053
Speaker 11: of surfers out on the West coast they love nine

1901
01:35:29,093 --> 01:35:32,053
Speaker 11: mile Beach because it's got a beefy left break. But

1902
01:35:32,213 --> 01:35:35,053
Speaker 11: the beach has so many curiosities. So at low tide

1903
01:35:35,053 --> 01:35:38,373
Speaker 11: there's rock pools to devil and brimming with muscles and staffish.

1904
01:35:38,693 --> 01:35:42,333
Speaker 11: There's a waterfall that actually cascades down to the beach

1905
01:35:42,493 --> 01:35:45,693
Speaker 11: from that Strongman mind memorial lookout. We've got a penguin

1906
01:35:45,773 --> 01:35:49,373
Speaker 11: colony and you never know, you luck Ponamu. Fragments often

1907
01:35:49,613 --> 01:35:52,773
Speaker 11: wash up on this beach and I just brought up

1908
01:35:52,773 --> 01:35:56,773
Speaker 11: from the ocean swell further south and from breakers. Best

1909
01:35:56,813 --> 01:36:00,053
Speaker 11: of all, the ocean panorama. You will just binge on that,

1910
01:36:00,213 --> 01:36:03,893
Speaker 11: particularly when a fireball sunset tortures the Tasman Sea, and

1911
01:36:03,973 --> 01:36:05,773
Speaker 11: it really is a remarkable spot.

1912
01:36:06,053 --> 01:36:08,973
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful part of the world. Thank you so much, Mike.

1913
01:36:09,373 --> 01:36:12,533
Speaker 3: All of Mike's advice and tips on tripping around Graymouth

1914
01:36:12,573 --> 01:36:14,453
Speaker 3: on the West Coast that will be available at news Talks,

1915
01:36:14,453 --> 01:36:17,213
Speaker 3: said b dot co dot md it. It is just

1916
01:36:17,293 --> 01:36:18,813
Speaker 3: coming up to eleven thirty.

1917
01:36:24,613 --> 01:36:26,253
Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

1918
01:36:26,493 --> 01:36:29,973
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on news Talks at

1919
01:36:30,013 --> 01:36:31,893
Speaker 1: B the b sis.

1920
01:36:32,093 --> 01:36:51,373
Speaker 21: Man will the same where John.

1921
01:36:52,013 --> 01:36:54,693
Speaker 3: New socks be you with Jack Tame after midday today,

1922
01:36:54,773 --> 01:36:57,653
Speaker 3: Jason Pie is back behind the mic with Weekends Sport.

1923
01:36:57,733 --> 01:37:00,213
Speaker 3: He's with us now you to Piney. Hello Jack, So

1924
01:37:00,453 --> 01:37:03,733
Speaker 3: I've I've been forced to reckon with Maricans this morning.

1925
01:37:04,053 --> 01:37:05,893
Speaker 3: I started the show. I started the show right and

1926
01:37:05,973 --> 01:37:08,293
Speaker 3: I said how refreshing I found the New Zealand Rugby

1927
01:37:08,413 --> 01:37:12,253
Speaker 3: communicates this week, and that instead of coming out and

1928
01:37:12,373 --> 01:37:16,013
Speaker 3: saying uh RANGI or Leo McDonald wants to spend more

1929
01:37:16,053 --> 01:37:18,533
Speaker 3: time with the family or is the even for personal reasons.

1930
01:37:18,813 --> 01:37:21,133
Speaker 3: They just came out and said, yeah, he and Rasa

1931
01:37:21,213 --> 01:37:24,373
Speaker 3: aren't getting along. They see the game differently, they're not clicking,

1932
01:37:24,693 --> 01:37:27,213
Speaker 3: and they want to call it told the truth. Yeah,

1933
01:37:27,413 --> 01:37:29,733
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, look, we obviously don't know

1934
01:37:29,813 --> 01:37:32,413
Speaker 3: the full story, but from what we know, that seems

1935
01:37:32,493 --> 01:37:35,613
Speaker 3: refreshingly honest and I like it. And the way they

1936
01:37:35,693 --> 01:37:38,493
Speaker 3: came out there wasn't any malice, There wasn't any nastiness.

1937
01:37:38,533 --> 01:37:40,333
Speaker 3: They just came out and said it the way Raisers

1938
01:37:40,333 --> 01:37:42,093
Speaker 3: spokes said, Yeah, just we just look at the game

1939
01:37:42,173 --> 01:37:45,733
Speaker 3: totally differently. Now, again, we haven't heard all of the

1940
01:37:45,813 --> 01:37:48,013
Speaker 3: details yet, and some of our listeners this morning have

1941
01:37:48,133 --> 01:37:49,773
Speaker 3: been quick to point out that perhaps we need to

1942
01:37:49,773 --> 01:37:51,733
Speaker 3: wait until we hear from Leam McDonald before we make

1943
01:37:51,813 --> 01:37:54,933
Speaker 3: up our mind as to exactly what has happened and

1944
01:37:54,973 --> 01:37:56,893
Speaker 3: what's gone down. But what is your take on it?

1945
01:37:56,933 --> 01:37:58,693
Speaker 3: All very similar to yours?

1946
01:37:58,733 --> 01:38:02,613
Speaker 22: Actually, while it was a surprise, I think some of

1947
01:38:02,653 --> 01:38:05,453
Speaker 22: the hyperbole around it was a bit over the top.

1948
01:38:05,493 --> 01:38:09,173
Speaker 22: You know, all black coaching team in disarray, you know, chaos,

1949
01:38:09,773 --> 01:38:11,973
Speaker 22: all this sort of stuff that was a surprise, Yes,

1950
01:38:12,053 --> 01:38:15,013
Speaker 22: of course it was, But like you, I was most

1951
01:38:15,093 --> 01:38:18,413
Speaker 22: impressed by the swiftness and the honesty around it all.

1952
01:38:18,493 --> 01:38:21,853
Speaker 22: And you're right, we don't yet know what really went

1953
01:38:21,973 --> 01:38:25,813
Speaker 22: on there, but look, it's like a it's like a relationship, Jack.

1954
01:38:25,893 --> 01:38:28,893
Speaker 22: We've all been in relationships that weren't working well, I

1955
01:38:28,973 --> 01:38:31,853
Speaker 22: guess most of us have. And rather than sort of

1956
01:38:31,893 --> 01:38:33,573
Speaker 22: box on, Yes, you've got to work at these things,

1957
01:38:33,613 --> 01:38:36,293
Speaker 22: but if you know in your heart of hearts that

1958
01:38:36,373 --> 01:38:38,413
Speaker 22: it ain't gonna work, the best thing to.

1959
01:38:38,453 --> 01:38:40,173
Speaker 3: Do is to is to shake hands and move on.

1960
01:38:40,453 --> 01:38:42,933
Speaker 3: And I just feel like they've done it now, I think.

1961
01:38:43,053 --> 01:38:46,253
Speaker 3: Which it's not like you know, it's not they've been

1962
01:38:46,293 --> 01:38:48,333
Speaker 3: going for months on anything, like they're four weeks deep.

1963
01:38:48,373 --> 01:38:49,813
Speaker 3: Maybe there are some people say they should have given

1964
01:38:49,893 --> 01:38:52,493
Speaker 3: a bit long, But if it's not working now, then

1965
01:38:53,293 --> 01:38:55,253
Speaker 3: so much better to call it now than to battle

1966
01:38:55,293 --> 01:38:57,613
Speaker 3: on for two years. And you know, have like kind

1967
01:38:57,653 --> 01:39:01,133
Speaker 3: of cliques forming within the wider unit, and you know, loyalties,

1968
01:39:01,213 --> 01:39:02,693
Speaker 3: splits and all that kind of thing.

1969
01:39:02,733 --> 01:39:03,213
Speaker 11: You know, you got.

1970
01:39:03,253 --> 01:39:06,053
Speaker 3: Oh, here's another little story in the Herald that says

1971
01:39:06,133 --> 01:39:07,933
Speaker 3: that the murmurs that things aren't working.

1972
01:39:07,973 --> 01:39:09,973
Speaker 22: I just feel like calling it early. This so much

1973
01:39:10,013 --> 01:39:11,973
Speaker 22: to be said for that. Yeah, I totally agree with

1974
01:39:12,013 --> 01:39:14,173
Speaker 22: that as well. You better better two months and then

1975
01:39:14,253 --> 01:39:16,293
Speaker 22: two months out from the Rugby World Cup. The one

1976
01:39:16,333 --> 01:39:19,693
Speaker 22: thing I do find interesting is how many voices there

1977
01:39:19,733 --> 01:39:22,253
Speaker 22: are in that all Blacks coaching group. There are a

1978
01:39:22,373 --> 01:39:24,933
Speaker 22: lot of there are a lot of assistant coaches, and

1979
01:39:25,053 --> 01:39:27,693
Speaker 22: they have various briefs. But there'll be players who kind

1980
01:39:27,693 --> 01:39:30,693
Speaker 22: of have to report up to a number of different people.

1981
01:39:31,053 --> 01:39:34,653
Speaker 22: And if there isn't consistency across what the head coach

1982
01:39:34,733 --> 01:39:37,333
Speaker 22: is trying to achieve and any of those assistant coaches,

1983
01:39:37,653 --> 01:39:40,933
Speaker 22: then we do have a problem. Yeah, so fair, that's fair. Yeah, yeah,

1984
01:39:41,453 --> 01:39:44,413
Speaker 22: good point. So I'm intrigued about a couple of things.

1985
01:39:44,973 --> 01:39:47,253
Speaker 22: Whether it will have any on field impact, and my

1986
01:39:47,413 --> 01:39:50,653
Speaker 22: gut feelers that it won't and rarely on McDonald ends

1987
01:39:50,733 --> 01:39:53,293
Speaker 22: up next that will be very interesting to chart.

1988
01:39:53,373 --> 01:39:55,853
Speaker 3: He'll be in demand. I mean, I rate I'll always

1989
01:39:55,893 --> 01:39:57,813
Speaker 3: have but you know, you could you could see him

1990
01:39:57,813 --> 01:40:00,813
Speaker 3: popping up in the UK, popping up in Europe somewhere,

1991
01:40:00,853 --> 01:40:02,813
Speaker 3: are popping up in Australia maybe, So I'm sure he

1992
01:40:03,493 --> 01:40:06,253
Speaker 3: won't be without work for too long, although it'll be interesting.

1993
01:40:06,573 --> 01:40:08,453
Speaker 3: You know, there may be some sort of restraint of

1994
01:40:08,533 --> 01:40:10,653
Speaker 3: trade clause or something we don't We don't know the

1995
01:40:10,693 --> 01:40:12,933
Speaker 3: details on that obviously, so it might not be tomorrow

1996
01:40:13,013 --> 01:40:18,813
Speaker 3: that he starts coaching for someone else. Crusaders. Yeah, yeah, true, true, yeah,

1997
01:40:18,853 --> 01:40:20,653
Speaker 3: well not for next season, right, we know at the

1998
01:40:20,773 --> 01:40:25,573
Speaker 3: very least, but perhaps thereafter. Hey, so we know the

1999
01:40:25,733 --> 01:40:30,933
Speaker 3: Warriors last night, last home game for the season, pretty disappointing. Look,

2000
01:40:32,053 --> 01:40:35,653
Speaker 3: I agree, I think there should have been a sin

2001
01:40:35,773 --> 01:40:38,413
Speaker 3: beinning for that head on Roger two. Vasischik. Absolutely, I've

2002
01:40:38,413 --> 01:40:40,613
Speaker 3: said already, I don't know that it would have materially

2003
01:40:40,773 --> 01:40:43,133
Speaker 3: changed the outcome of the game, although the scores are

2004
01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:44,933
Speaker 3: pretty close. I think when Artie has got hit, right,

2005
01:40:45,453 --> 01:40:47,813
Speaker 3: what was your take on last night? I totally agree

2006
01:40:47,853 --> 01:40:49,533
Speaker 3: on that. I mean, how on earth they've missed that.

2007
01:40:49,653 --> 01:40:50,333
Speaker 3: It's just beyond me.

2008
01:40:51,533 --> 01:40:53,733
Speaker 22: He's basically taking a shoulder to the head from Bulldogs

2009
01:40:53,733 --> 01:40:56,413
Speaker 22: skipper Stephen Crichton. You know, there's no gray area at all.

2010
01:40:57,213 --> 01:40:59,213
Speaker 22: They shouldn't it should be a some, should be some,

2011
01:40:59,453 --> 01:41:01,933
Speaker 22: but be there. As you say, that didn't win or

2012
01:41:01,973 --> 01:41:04,933
Speaker 22: lose them the game. You think about Sean Johnson and

2013
01:41:04,933 --> 01:41:07,053
Speaker 22: I thought, look, wonderful send off last night for him,

2014
01:41:07,253 --> 01:41:09,533
Speaker 22: you know, in isolation from the game and the result itself,

2015
01:41:09,613 --> 01:41:11,213
Speaker 22: and from the season as well. I think when I

2016
01:41:11,293 --> 01:41:13,573
Speaker 22: remember Sean Johnson, I'll I'll remember the Sewan Johnson of

2017
01:41:13,613 --> 01:41:16,093
Speaker 22: twenty twenty three more than I will the Shawn Johnson

2018
01:41:16,133 --> 01:41:18,253
Speaker 22: of twenty twenty four. It's been a challenging year for him,

2019
01:41:18,453 --> 01:41:21,053
Speaker 22: but I think, you know, you should remember, you know,

2020
01:41:21,293 --> 01:41:24,453
Speaker 22: the greats of the game at their peak, and he's

2021
01:41:24,453 --> 01:41:26,693
Speaker 22: had a couple of peaks. Look, when he first arrived,

2022
01:41:26,733 --> 01:41:29,973
Speaker 22: he was absolutely magnificent. I'd forgotten. I've been watching a

2023
01:41:29,973 --> 01:41:32,613
Speaker 22: few highlights in the last couple of days from twenty

2024
01:41:32,653 --> 01:41:35,493
Speaker 22: eleven when he first turned up and he was sensational,

2025
01:41:35,613 --> 01:41:39,013
Speaker 22: bean oh, incredible. And last year I think was almost

2026
01:41:39,093 --> 01:41:42,333
Speaker 22: as you know, almost as peak of peaks when he

2027
01:41:42,493 --> 01:41:45,013
Speaker 22: all but won the Dallym took the Warriors to one

2028
01:41:45,053 --> 01:41:47,853
Speaker 22: game from the Grand Final and was just absolutely terrific.

2029
01:41:48,453 --> 01:41:51,493
Speaker 22: I'll remember that Shawn Johnson, and I'm quite keen to

2030
01:41:51,573 --> 01:41:54,413
Speaker 22: kind of pay tribute to him this afternoon, rather than

2031
01:41:54,893 --> 01:41:56,733
Speaker 22: pick over the bones of what has been a disappointing

2032
01:41:56,733 --> 01:41:58,373
Speaker 22: season that can wait for a couple of weeks. I

2033
01:41:58,413 --> 01:42:01,213
Speaker 22: think this afternoon, let's let's celebrate one of the greats

2034
01:42:01,253 --> 01:42:01,733
Speaker 22: of our game.

2035
01:42:01,933 --> 01:42:03,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do that this afternoon. What else is on

2036
01:42:03,853 --> 01:42:05,253
Speaker 3: the show's other well'll.

2037
01:42:05,013 --> 01:42:07,173
Speaker 22: Cover off both of you. All Blacks Jeff Wilkson after

2038
01:42:07,213 --> 01:42:09,613
Speaker 22: midday on the on the All Black Saga. Michael luck

2039
01:42:09,653 --> 01:42:11,773
Speaker 22: one of Shawn Johnson's first teammates of the Warriors in

2040
01:42:11,813 --> 01:42:14,413
Speaker 22: twenty eleven, also going to join us and the Paralympics

2041
01:42:14,453 --> 01:42:16,813
Speaker 22: only a week away now, can't wait for this. And

2042
01:42:16,933 --> 01:42:19,053
Speaker 22: Anna Grimaldi is one of our flag bearers.

2043
01:42:19,333 --> 01:42:20,093
Speaker 3: She's going to join us.

2044
01:42:20,093 --> 01:42:22,253
Speaker 22: She's looking for a third straight gold medal in the

2045
01:42:22,253 --> 01:42:25,013
Speaker 22: T forty seven long jump, So I actually feeling about

2046
01:42:25,013 --> 01:42:27,933
Speaker 22: that and about about carrying the flag at the opening ceremony.

2047
01:42:28,013 --> 01:42:31,253
Speaker 3: So we've got Anna grimaldy on just after two today US. Okay, great,

2048
01:42:31,333 --> 01:42:33,653
Speaker 3: thanks money, have a go show jasnas Dan. He'll be

2049
01:42:33,693 --> 01:42:36,013
Speaker 3: with us for weekend sport. He'll with us right after

2050
01:42:36,053 --> 01:42:38,173
Speaker 3: the midday news on News Talks EDB. Before then, we're

2051
01:42:38,173 --> 01:42:40,813
Speaker 3: going to listen to a new album by Fontaine's DC.

2052
01:42:41,493 --> 01:42:44,493
Speaker 3: They're this Irish pop punk band, pretty catchy tunes as

2053
01:42:44,533 --> 01:42:47,173
Speaker 3: well as that. Your book picks for the week twenty

2054
01:42:47,213 --> 01:42:47,773
Speaker 3: four to twelve.

2055
01:42:48,293 --> 01:42:50,333
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

2056
01:42:50,693 --> 01:42:54,173
Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and beepwured on code

2057
01:42:54,213 --> 01:42:57,333
Speaker 1: on enz for high quality supplements Used talks.

2058
01:42:57,093 --> 01:43:00,533
Speaker 3: eNB twenty one to twelve on News Talks EDB. If

2059
01:43:00,613 --> 01:43:03,413
Speaker 3: you missed it, our feature interview last week Saturday Morning

2060
01:43:03,493 --> 01:43:06,813
Speaker 3: last week was us author Jody Picoe, who is an

2061
01:43:06,933 --> 01:43:11,253
Speaker 3: amazing successful writer, like the absolutely top of the pops

2062
01:43:11,253 --> 01:43:12,933
Speaker 3: when it comes to the New York Times bestseller list,

2063
01:43:13,013 --> 01:43:15,413
Speaker 3: all of that great stuff. I love that interview. If

2064
01:43:15,453 --> 01:43:17,133
Speaker 3: you haven't listened to it, it is up on the

2065
01:43:17,173 --> 01:43:19,693
Speaker 3: news Talk CB website right now. Put it on our

2066
01:43:19,733 --> 01:43:21,653
Speaker 3: Facebook page as well so you can go and listen there.

2067
01:43:21,893 --> 01:43:25,173
Speaker 3: She was just just super open, super interesting and engaged.

2068
01:43:25,613 --> 01:43:28,133
Speaker 3: And now our book reviewer Catherine Rains has gone and

2069
01:43:28,213 --> 01:43:31,973
Speaker 3: read Jodi Picoe's latest work, by any other Name, Calder Catherine,

2070
01:43:32,453 --> 01:43:34,093
Speaker 3: Good morning, Chack, so tell us about it.

2071
01:43:35,253 --> 01:43:39,813
Speaker 8: So this starts with a dual timeline narrative, So it's

2072
01:43:39,813 --> 01:43:43,173
Speaker 8: set both in fifteen eighty one and in twenty twenty,

2073
01:43:43,373 --> 01:43:47,493
Speaker 8: and it's told from two different writers' perspectives, and they've

2074
01:43:47,493 --> 01:43:50,213
Speaker 8: got a lot in common. And even though they've lived

2075
01:43:50,453 --> 01:43:56,493
Speaker 8: five centuries apart, so in twenty twenty is successful. Not well,

2076
01:43:56,533 --> 01:43:59,493
Speaker 8: she's actually an unsuccessful playwright. And she finds out a

2077
01:43:59,573 --> 01:44:01,973
Speaker 8: woman who name's Melinda, and she finds out just how

2078
01:44:02,093 --> 01:44:05,133
Speaker 8: tough being a playwright is when her college play is

2079
01:44:05,253 --> 01:44:09,533
Speaker 8: critiqued to atte smotherings by our reviewer. And so we're

2080
01:44:09,573 --> 01:44:12,493
Speaker 8: a decade on and she still doesn't know where she

2081
01:44:12,613 --> 01:44:14,853
Speaker 8: wants to be in life, but she found this inspiration

2082
01:44:14,933 --> 01:44:17,933
Speaker 8: to write a new script based on her sixteenth century ancestor,

2083
01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:21,373
Speaker 8: a woman called Amelia Bassano, and she was England's first

2084
01:44:21,413 --> 01:44:24,853
Speaker 8: published poet. And then by chance, she decides to submit

2085
01:44:24,933 --> 01:44:28,173
Speaker 8: her play and her roommate Andre encourages to do so,

2086
01:44:28,413 --> 01:44:30,573
Speaker 8: and after they have a little bit too much to drink,

2087
01:44:30,693 --> 01:44:33,773
Speaker 8: they submit her play under a male name of mel

2088
01:44:34,293 --> 01:44:36,533
Speaker 8: and she turns out to win this contest, and then

2089
01:44:36,653 --> 01:44:39,533
Speaker 8: her path recrosses with the critic that she had a

2090
01:44:39,573 --> 01:44:43,573
Speaker 8: guy called Jasper who just broke her enthusiasm for writing,

2091
01:44:43,973 --> 01:44:48,013
Speaker 8: and a judgmental producer and Andre, her flatmate, happens to

2092
01:44:48,053 --> 01:44:51,533
Speaker 8: be a gay black man, but he's created because they

2093
01:44:51,613 --> 01:44:54,533
Speaker 8: think it's him under this perfect play about a white

2094
01:44:54,573 --> 01:44:57,853
Speaker 8: woman's story and Mail can't find a convenient moment to

2095
01:44:57,933 --> 01:45:00,253
Speaker 8: come clean about what she's done and how she submitted

2096
01:45:00,253 --> 01:45:03,413
Speaker 8: her play, and she finds that it's slipping away. And

2097
01:45:03,533 --> 01:45:05,933
Speaker 8: the other storyline is based on the real life of

2098
01:45:05,973 --> 01:45:10,253
Speaker 8: Amelia Versano and she's Italian, she's musically talented, but she's

2099
01:45:10,293 --> 01:45:13,173
Speaker 8: forced to become the mistress of Lord Chamberlain, who oversees

2100
01:45:13,293 --> 01:45:16,453
Speaker 8: theater production in England, and she has lots of text

2101
01:45:16,493 --> 01:45:18,613
Speaker 8: with Amelia to get her opinions and leads her to

2102
01:45:18,613 --> 01:45:21,573
Speaker 8: write her own play to be performed. But to achieve

2103
01:45:21,653 --> 01:45:24,133
Speaker 8: this she needed to compromise, and she makes an agreement

2104
01:45:24,213 --> 01:45:26,413
Speaker 8: with a young actor, a guy, quite well known guy

2105
01:45:26,693 --> 01:45:29,453
Speaker 8: called William Shakespeare, to act as the playwright of her work,

2106
01:45:29,653 --> 01:45:31,613
Speaker 8: and she thinks that this is a small price to

2107
01:45:31,653 --> 01:45:35,493
Speaker 8: pay to see her playreach audiences. So Jodie managed is

2108
01:45:35,573 --> 01:45:38,533
Speaker 8: to combine the historical and the contemporary with this dull

2109
01:45:38,613 --> 01:45:43,533
Speaker 8: tail timeline, and she really explores William Shakespeare's legacy a lot,

2110
01:45:43,653 --> 01:45:45,413
Speaker 8: so how it was possible for him to write over

2111
01:45:45,493 --> 01:45:48,333
Speaker 8: thirty plays while he's a full type actor and producer,

2112
01:45:48,453 --> 01:45:50,933
Speaker 8: and did he actually buy work from others and could

2113
01:45:50,933 --> 01:45:53,253
Speaker 8: he have been part of a group, and it's really

2114
01:45:53,453 --> 01:45:57,133
Speaker 8: opens your mind to lots of different possibilities, and she

2115
01:45:57,253 --> 01:45:59,413
Speaker 8: writes a lot at the end of the book about

2116
01:45:59,453 --> 01:46:02,093
Speaker 8: how things like this could be possible, and it really

2117
01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:04,253
Speaker 8: makes you think and when you look at his life

2118
01:46:04,293 --> 01:46:07,813
Speaker 8: and particularly if you've studied it. Aside from that, the

2119
01:46:07,853 --> 01:46:10,933
Speaker 8: story is just a really good story and these timelines

2120
01:46:10,973 --> 01:46:13,093
Speaker 8: and about you know, finding your place in.

2121
01:46:13,133 --> 01:46:16,453
Speaker 3: Life, which is the Jodi Pico thing, right, Yeah, absolutely

2122
01:46:16,613 --> 01:46:18,893
Speaker 3: is cool. That sounds great. So by any other name

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Speaker 3: by Jodi Picoe. You've also read Tiger Tiger by James Patterson.

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Speaker 8: So this isn't an inside look at Tiger Woods written

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Speaker 8: by a lot of people who know him well, because

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Speaker 8: James Patterson isn't an insider. He's never attended any Tiger

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Speaker 8: Woods press conferences and he's never spoken to him one

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Speaker 8: to one, although to be fair, very few people actually

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Speaker 8: had that are reviewers or biographers. But what he is

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01:46:42,653 --> 01:46:45,413
Speaker 8: is he's a great storyteller and he's written over four

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Speaker 8: hundred books themselves, and he loves playing golf and he

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Speaker 8: has since his high school days. And so what he's

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01:46:51,053 --> 01:46:53,653
Speaker 8: done is he's flowed Tiger Story right from when he

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Speaker 8: appears in a local news program in Los Angeles in

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Speaker 8: September nine, seventy eight, at the age of two, when

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Speaker 8: he's featured on national television pushing a golf demonstration. And

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Speaker 8: you know, he was nicknamed Tiger very early on, and

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Speaker 8: he watched sport and all of that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 8: and golf and apparently he hit his first golf ball

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Speaker 8: when he was ten months old, and you know, that's

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Speaker 8: his It's unbelievable, isn't it. And that was, as we

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Speaker 8: all know, his destiny, and he set national records and championships.

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Speaker 8: And he follows that chronological journey through Woods' life and

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01:47:26,693 --> 01:47:29,053
Speaker 8: the role of his parents, particularly his father and also

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01:47:29,213 --> 01:47:33,653
Speaker 8: his mother, and you know, his tournament life and the

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01:47:33,813 --> 01:47:36,533
Speaker 8: things that he faced about his racial bias and restrictions

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Speaker 8: and regulations at venues where he couldn't compete or does compete,

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Speaker 8: but they didn't were terribly happy about it, you know.

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Speaker 8: And then he talks about his personal life and his

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Speaker 8: marriage and the collapse of that, and his private life

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01:47:49,253 --> 01:47:52,773
Speaker 8: and the affairs and their drug abuse and all his

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01:47:52,973 --> 01:47:54,773
Speaker 8: injuries and all that sort of stuff. And I think

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Speaker 8: if you're a massive golfing fan, you probably know all

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01:47:58,173 --> 01:48:00,253
Speaker 8: of this and you know, it's stuff that we probably

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01:48:00,293 --> 01:48:02,613
Speaker 8: all know that's been talked about in the media. But

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01:48:02,733 --> 01:48:04,333
Speaker 8: what he does is he follows it in a really

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01:48:04,613 --> 01:48:07,893
Speaker 8: well tailed storyline makes it easier for I think that

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01:48:08,133 --> 01:48:10,573
Speaker 8: arm cheer golfs enthusiasts to follow along. And you know

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01:48:10,773 --> 01:48:13,133
Speaker 8: about his comebacks and his contributions and where he is

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01:48:13,213 --> 01:48:16,613
Speaker 8: now and leaving Nike and doing his own clothing label.

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01:48:16,613 --> 01:48:18,853
Speaker 8: And it talks about his son, Charlie's team and the

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01:48:18,933 --> 01:48:22,413
Speaker 8: state high school championships, and you know his vice chairman

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01:48:22,493 --> 01:48:25,013
Speaker 8: now as he is of PGA Tour Enterprises. And you

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01:48:25,053 --> 01:48:27,613
Speaker 8: know there's lots of parts of that story retold and

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Speaker 8: the and has great comeback and following, you know, going along,

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01:48:32,173 --> 01:48:34,093
Speaker 8: and it's just, yeah, it's a really nice way of

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01:48:34,733 --> 01:48:35,773
Speaker 8: looking at Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 2: The story.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a compelling and comprehensive read.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: So that's Tiger Tiger by James Patterson. The first book,

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01:48:41,773 --> 01:48:44,613
Speaker 3: of course, is By Any Other Name by Jody Picot.

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01:48:45,093 --> 01:48:45,893
Speaker 3: New music for you in a.

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Speaker 1: Couple of minutes, giving you the inside scoop on all

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Speaker 1: you need to Know. Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and

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Speaker 3: Seems so had not to be free.

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Speaker 6: When you were right beside me in the modern world.

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Speaker 23: In the modern world, don't feel anything world, I don't

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01:49:22,013 --> 01:49:22,853
Speaker 23: feel bad.

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Speaker 3: This is in the modern world. It's by Fontaine's DC.

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01:49:32,933 --> 01:49:35,813
Speaker 3: We've got a new album out called Romance. Stale Clifford

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01:49:35,893 --> 01:49:37,973
Speaker 3: is our music reviews. She's been listening, killed up.

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01:49:38,333 --> 01:49:39,213
Speaker 14: Gut on warning.

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01:49:39,573 --> 01:49:42,813
Speaker 24: I didn't realize the DC stood for Dublin City. Oh

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01:49:42,973 --> 01:49:45,573
Speaker 24: I did catch up on that, even though they're Irish boys.

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01:49:45,573 --> 01:49:49,053
Speaker 24: You think i'd have clicked way, But nah, because there's

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01:49:49,053 --> 01:49:51,613
Speaker 24: an American band called Fontane's as well, So don't confuse them.

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01:49:53,573 --> 01:49:54,853
Speaker 3: You're very good, ye yeah, yeah.

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01:49:55,773 --> 01:49:59,093
Speaker 24: So these guys were for their first few albums pigeonholed

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01:49:59,293 --> 01:50:02,773
Speaker 24: in the post punk or punk post post punklets. That

2193
01:50:02,853 --> 01:50:05,413
Speaker 24: day kind of genre was where they sat, and they

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01:50:05,493 --> 01:50:08,933
Speaker 24: used to do a lot more of that real punk grunge,

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01:50:09,293 --> 01:50:12,053
Speaker 24: a lot of the yelling and real.

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01:50:12,093 --> 01:50:13,973
Speaker 12: Heavy noise and lots of that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 24: This album is where I feel like they've suddenly found

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01:50:17,493 --> 01:50:21,573
Speaker 24: themselves and taken a real creative look at this and

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01:50:21,693 --> 01:50:24,253
Speaker 24: how to do things a little bit differently, which is

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01:50:24,333 --> 01:50:27,533
Speaker 24: why like that song there in the modern world. To me,

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01:50:27,653 --> 01:50:32,533
Speaker 24: that's very guitar almost old nineties rock or when you

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01:50:32,653 --> 01:50:34,053
Speaker 24: hear it, like maybe a little.

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01:50:33,853 --> 01:50:37,013
Speaker 3: Bit U two esque, Okay, yeah yeah, Peatch.

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01:50:36,773 --> 01:50:38,693
Speaker 24: Shop Boys, which has then taken them back to the eighties.

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01:50:38,733 --> 01:50:41,373
Speaker 24: But I think that's the guitar leeds kind of and

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01:50:41,533 --> 01:50:45,533
Speaker 24: sound of Graham's voice as the lead vocals. They decided

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01:50:45,533 --> 01:50:48,333
Speaker 24: to do something different with this album where they they

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01:50:48,413 --> 01:50:51,613
Speaker 24: looked at every song with a visual aspect, like what

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01:50:52,093 --> 01:50:54,733
Speaker 24: is happening while this song is happening, what's the weather

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01:50:55,013 --> 01:50:59,413
Speaker 24: like who's being chased or followed, or what's the drama

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01:50:59,533 --> 01:51:02,813
Speaker 24: around what the song is right before really honing in

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01:51:03,053 --> 01:51:05,813
Speaker 24: on the instruments. And I think what's that's done is

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01:51:05,853 --> 01:51:09,013
Speaker 24: it's made a lot of the music sound quite cinematic.

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01:51:09,893 --> 01:51:12,733
Speaker 12: Like they all have those big, sweeping.

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01:51:12,293 --> 01:51:15,453
Speaker 24: Kind of sounds in them, and a lot more layering

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01:51:15,533 --> 01:51:18,773
Speaker 24: of the different instruments and music. And I also think

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01:51:18,853 --> 01:51:21,533
Speaker 24: I just like the led singer Green's voice better in

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01:51:21,613 --> 01:51:22,333
Speaker 24: this album too.

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01:51:23,733 --> 01:51:24,573
Speaker 13: You know, there's only so.

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01:51:24,653 --> 01:51:27,333
Speaker 24: Much punk sort of grunge stuff you want to take

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01:51:27,653 --> 01:51:31,133
Speaker 24: in the vocals, where this one seems more considered. He's

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01:51:31,253 --> 01:51:33,893
Speaker 24: trying out some different sort of shapes in his vocals

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01:51:34,053 --> 01:51:37,693
Speaker 24: and it just makes for some really interesting listening. He

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01:51:37,773 --> 01:51:40,213
Speaker 24: also I saw an interview where he said, when people

2225
01:51:40,333 --> 01:51:43,253
Speaker 24: start to pick up on what your creativity story is,

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01:51:43,453 --> 01:51:45,733
Speaker 24: it's time to shake it off and start something fresh.

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01:51:46,773 --> 01:51:48,293
Speaker 24: And I was like, that's kind of cool, lay like

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01:51:48,333 --> 01:51:50,573
Speaker 24: he doesn't want to be too obvious on what it

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01:51:50,693 --> 01:51:52,613
Speaker 24: is they're going to do, but also maybe that's a

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01:51:52,693 --> 01:51:57,013
Speaker 24: great motivator to play a bit more, try a bit more,

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01:51:57,133 --> 01:51:59,493
Speaker 24: see what else you can do. There's some really big

2232
01:51:59,573 --> 01:52:03,333
Speaker 24: tunes on this Starburster. He's been a big single for

2233
01:52:03,453 --> 01:52:07,413
Speaker 24: them again, real dramatic opener, tweakly he's over these really

2234
01:52:07,533 --> 01:52:10,053
Speaker 24: heavy bass and drums like stuff that you almost don't

2235
01:52:10,053 --> 01:52:13,013
Speaker 24: think go together, but somehow they've fused it and it's

2236
01:52:13,053 --> 01:52:15,933
Speaker 24: just it's really good. And it's written about experiencing a

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01:52:15,973 --> 01:52:19,373
Speaker 24: panic attack at since Pink Crest Station in London, right

2238
01:52:20,013 --> 01:52:22,453
Speaker 24: you know that's that's a station where they transfer about

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01:52:22,453 --> 01:52:23,573
Speaker 24: thirty three million people.

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Speaker 3: A year, so I.

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Speaker 10: Think a lot of people will relate to that.

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01:52:30,613 --> 01:52:32,413
Speaker 24: Again, one of these albums that there's quite a lot

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01:52:32,453 --> 01:52:34,613
Speaker 24: of pace to it, and I think that's the visual

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01:52:34,653 --> 01:52:37,413
Speaker 24: approach they've taken to things, but I kind of like it.

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01:52:37,493 --> 01:52:40,213
Speaker 24: It drives you in this forward sort of thing. And

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01:52:40,733 --> 01:52:44,573
Speaker 24: also looking at Romance that there's darkness with the light

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01:52:44,813 --> 01:52:45,733
Speaker 24: and there's set.

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01:52:47,053 --> 01:52:48,933
Speaker 14: And he likes that, like that's how he writes.

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01:52:49,333 --> 01:52:51,453
Speaker 24: He'll write a pretty song, but there'll be some dark

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01:52:51,533 --> 01:52:54,493
Speaker 24: sort of lyrics and behind it, and so too for

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01:52:54,573 --> 01:52:57,693
Speaker 24: the love. And then one of the lines in the

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01:52:57,773 --> 01:52:59,933
Speaker 24: song Romance, which I think you're going to play a

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01:52:59,973 --> 01:53:03,933
Speaker 24: bit of, is maybe romance is a place, not just

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01:53:04,013 --> 01:53:04,453
Speaker 24: a feeling.

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01:53:04,733 --> 01:53:06,293
Speaker 12: Maybe it's a place that you take yourself.

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01:53:06,733 --> 01:53:08,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, ok, thank you for you.

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01:53:08,693 --> 01:53:08,893
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:53:09,573 --> 01:53:11,453
Speaker 24: The more I listen, I think, the more I pick

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01:53:11,533 --> 01:53:14,693
Speaker 24: out what I really enjoy. To me, there's some real

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01:53:14,813 --> 01:53:19,173
Speaker 24: standouts and it is starburst modern world in Romance, those

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01:53:19,173 --> 01:53:21,453
Speaker 24: are my favorite singles. Again, I've been listening to it

2262
01:53:21,533 --> 01:53:24,653
Speaker 24: for like twelve hours NonStop, so maybe.

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01:53:24,253 --> 01:53:26,253
Speaker 3: That'll take out. We will listen to Romance in a

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01:53:26,293 --> 01:53:28,453
Speaker 3: couple of minutes. And given that's the name of the album.

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01:53:28,493 --> 01:53:29,813
Speaker 3: So what did you What did you give it?

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01:53:30,173 --> 01:53:31,493
Speaker 24: Well, if a good listen, I think I'm going to

2267
01:53:31,533 --> 01:53:32,333
Speaker 24: give it an eight out of ten.

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01:53:32,493 --> 01:53:35,573
Speaker 3: Oh okay, great, Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, yeah,

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01:53:35,573 --> 01:53:39,093
Speaker 3: it grows on you. Nice okay Romance by Fontaine's DC

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01:53:39,333 --> 01:53:41,653
Speaker 3: for Dublin City, of course, not District of Columbia or

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01:53:41,653 --> 01:53:44,013
Speaker 3: anything else I hate out of ten on the Estelle

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01:53:44,013 --> 01:53:47,093
Speaker 3: cliff at Scale, thank you. We will next week. That's

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01:53:47,093 --> 01:53:49,053
Speaker 3: a stale cliff at our music reviewer. Yet we will

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01:53:49,093 --> 01:53:50,533
Speaker 3: have a bit of a listen to romance in a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes. It's eight minutes to twelve on News

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Speaker 3: you this morning with new music from Fontaine's DC. The

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Speaker 3: new album is called Romance and this is the song

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Speaker 3: by the same name. I will see you next Saturday morning.

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01:55:06,773 --> 01:55:16,573
Speaker 6: Pa saims the pan God knows I love scribs on

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Speaker 6: my House, I will.

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01:55:19,853 --> 01:55:35,973
Speaker 23: Be besides Still God Bad, Deep in the Night art

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01:55:36,013 --> 01:55:43,733
Speaker 23: and five that maybe Michael's nurses died.

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01:55:46,853 --> 01:55:48,293
Speaker 6: I prayed for your.

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01:55:48,533 --> 01:55:59,693
Speaker 17: Kindess hide on space. And maybe robis sis a place? Yes,

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Speaker 17: Maybe robots.

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Speaker 6: Sis a place?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Maybe Ramba says the place fuh.

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