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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. This night, your weekend off

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Speaker 1: the right way. Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, News Talks

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Speaker 1: at B.

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Speaker 2: Joe You Seelo, Good morning, Welcome to News Talks V.

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame with you through to midday today. I was

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Speaker 2: up all night. I was a nervous wreck.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I could hear the rain lashing the windows. The gate

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Speaker 2: outside was almost torn from its hinges by the wind.

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Speaker 4: All night.

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Speaker 2: I lay there wondering, tossing and turning in bed. How

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Speaker 2: is my single pomegran I wondered, is the pomegranate, the

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Speaker 2: lonely pomegranate on the family pomegranate tree going to make

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Speaker 2: it through this? Good news, Good news, the pomegranate is

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Speaker 2: still attached to the tree, I'm pleased to report, although

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Speaker 2: the tree is looking a little bit worse for wear.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not the only place to have a

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Speaker 2: few branches down over the last couple of days. I

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Speaker 2: hope if you've been blind about it your place or worse,

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Speaker 2: that things are drying out and you're able to get

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Speaker 2: on top of stuff. This weekend. It's a bit of

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Speaker 2: a fruity start to the morning. Actually, how good are

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Speaker 2: apples at the moment. They're amazing because their new season.

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Speaker 2: But before ten o'clock, we have a delicious recipe to

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Speaker 2: get the very best out of your apple to upscale

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Speaker 2: your apples, A salted caramel baked apple, assaulted caramel baked

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Speaker 2: apple recipe. I got that right, that we're going to

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Speaker 2: share before ten and our feature interview after ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning is someone who I think is one of

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Speaker 2: the most outstanding creatives this century in the spirit of

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Speaker 2: Monty Python, Susie Isy Eddie Izzard as they are now known,

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Speaker 2: is coming to New Zealand with two very very different shows.

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Speaker 2: So you'll know Eddie is ard for comedy performances, sketch comedy,

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Speaker 2: stand up over the years. But as well as coming

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Speaker 2: here and performing an amazing comedy show, Susie Eddiezard is

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Speaker 2: coming here and performing a one person Hamlet. So they're

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Speaker 2: going to do both, right, They're gonna do the stand

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Speaker 2: up and they're gonna do the Shakespeare. And the Shakespeare,

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Speaker 2: I should say, is not funny Shakespeare like, it's proper Shakespeare,

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Speaker 2: Shakespeare like tragedy Shakespeare. Right, So anyway, Susie Isy Eddie

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Speaker 2: Iszard is going to be with us as how feature

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Speaker 2: interview after ten o'clock this morning. Right now it is

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Speaker 2: nine minutes past nine Jack, So before yesterday, I can

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Speaker 2: honestly say I hadn't ever heard the word grouse. Well, no,

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Speaker 2: that's not true. Actually I had had. I had heard

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Speaker 2: the word grouse. I'd heard the word I knew growse

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Speaker 2: as being like a bird, as game for a hunter,

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Speaker 2: but I had never heard it used in slang form.

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Speaker 2: It is grause, said christ Church Mayor Phil Major as

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Speaker 2: he cut the ribbon in his city's brand new six

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three stadium. Ta kaha, so long as

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Speaker 2: you mean it's excellent, I thought that I'm with you, Phil.

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Speaker 2: I was born and raised in christ Church, and I

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Speaker 2: will always have an affection for the three that comes

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Speaker 2: from just having had a great childhood based in an

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Speaker 2: adventurous place. It's never been perfect, no place ever is,

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Speaker 2: but christ Church for me will always be home. And

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Speaker 2: we could see the old stadium from our family home

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Speaker 2: in the three. The first time I was ever on

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Speaker 2: embankment at Lancaster Park as it was then known for

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Speaker 2: a test between Pakistan and New Zealand and February nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety four, the cameraman came and got a little cutaway

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Speaker 2: shot of us between balls, and the next day at school,

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Speaker 2: various people excitedly came up to tell me they'd see

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Speaker 2: me on Telly. There's no doubting that the new stadium

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Speaker 2: is a huge upgrade on the stadium that has been

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Speaker 2: Lancaster Park or Jade Stadium. Lancaster Park was in a

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Speaker 2: If you had the wrong seat at Jade Stadium or

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Speaker 2: it means I sort of get an interesting sense of progress,

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Speaker 2: For the longest time, it was measured only in empty

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Speaker 2: lots in christ Church. Of the seventeen anchor projects to

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Speaker 2: find back in twenty twelve, none was delivered to their

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Speaker 2: Center is just fantastic Twodunga. The Central Library is surely

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Speaker 2: one of New Zealand's best. It's a magical place. Add

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Speaker 2: to it parta Ciorda, the Metro Sports Facility, the Canterbury

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Speaker 2: University rebuilt, the new q E two, the Margaret Mahi Playground.

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Speaker 2: There are just so many great public facilities in the

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Speaker 2: city now, and each of them is better than the

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Speaker 2: one that it replaced. There have been just two out

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Speaker 2: Cathedral and what I suppose could be described as a

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Speaker 2: people together, whether for six sixty or yet another Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby final. For so many years christ Church was sad

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Speaker 2: and sorry, but Takaha's completion, costly as it has been,

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Speaker 2: is such a milestone. It's more than a stadium, It's

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Speaker 2: more than a construction project. It is the crowning of

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Speaker 2: what is surely the most vibrant city in the country. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is Grouse. And to those who've lived through it

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Speaker 2: all and are now counting down the last few days

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Speaker 2: to their first match to KAA, honestly enjoy being envied.

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Speaker 2: You deserve Jack Team ninety two. Ninety two is our

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Speaker 2: I forget that if you are sending me a text

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Speaker 2: that standard text costs supply before ten o'clock. Your movie

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Speaker 2: picks for this weekend, We're gonna tell you about the

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Speaker 2: new Peaky Blinders film Peaky blind Is the Immortal Man,

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Speaker 2: which is streaming now. We will look at that Warriors

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Speaker 2: performance last night as well, but Kevin Melon will get

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Speaker 2: us kicked off for our Saturday morning together next Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack TAVI. It's Saturday morning.

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Speaker 5: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack,

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Speaker 5: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 6: EDB sexting past nine on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Praise be the pomegranate persists. Yep, good morning, Jack. We

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Speaker 2: used grows in the sixties and seventies. To us. It

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Speaker 2: meant fabulous, butte great, says Sharon pang Nui. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: just had to double check it, so it is grasse.

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Speaker 2: It means like it was. It is great, It's excellent,

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Speaker 2: It's awesome, Jack. Speaking of talking slang, I've never heard

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Speaker 2: someone talk about the three? What on earth is that?

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's the area code. Totang is the seven?

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Speaker 2: Work onto the O nine? Anywhere in the South Island

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Speaker 2: is the O three? I think that's right. Yeah, anywhere

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Speaker 2: in Southern Yeah, Well is the four? That's right? Two

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Speaker 2: is the text un rest? You want to send us

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Speaker 2: a message this morning? Kevin mill Is with us killer

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Speaker 2: Kevin Kilder, Jack.

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Speaker 7: I love what you said about the about and I'm thinking,

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Speaker 7: who would have been the one person in crisis you

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Speaker 7: could say was behind all that, who took all the

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Speaker 7: political heat? Was there any one mayor or.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that there is, because I mean I

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Speaker 2: didn't get into it then, because no one wants to

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Speaker 2: be talking about the cost of the thing right now.

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Speaker 2: But the the final cost was certainly a source of

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Speaker 2: contention or point of contention, and the ways in which

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Speaker 2: it was paid for or not paid for it because

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Speaker 2: I'm the central government puts some money in, but then

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Speaker 2: basically the christ Church City Council paid for the rest

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Speaker 2: fastest growing regions in the country, and so maybe a

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Speaker 2: different response would have also asked the councils in those

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Speaker 2: areas to contribute to the cost of the stadium. After all,

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Speaker 2: the residents are going to be the ones using it,

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Speaker 2: probably almost as much as people in christ Church City itself,

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Speaker 2: you know, like if you in Selwyn, for example, you're

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Speaker 2: probably still going to be going to watch the Crusaders

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Speaker 2: when another super ap title. So maybe as a rate pad,

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Speaker 2: being asked to shell out a little bit and contribute

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Speaker 2: to the cost would have been a good idea, But anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's one of them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just think we forget very quickly about these people

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Speaker 7: that go into battle. I think my old mate Dave Cauley, ye,

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Speaker 7: who took a lot of political heat to get their

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Speaker 7: once it's all up and go on, and I just think, no,

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Speaker 7: we we should remember these people because they put in

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Speaker 7: who we mustn't forget. Risks quite a lot to get

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Speaker 2: Have you seen it from the outside. It's so common, real, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, so you'll see it as you fly into

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Speaker 2: the city next time you visit. But it's so prominent.

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Speaker 2: It's in such a prominent spot right in the CBDs.

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Speaker 2: You basically just walk right across the road and you're

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Speaker 7: I didn't I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've always.

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Speaker 7: Thought it's built on the Lancaster Park.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, that's quite a different spot,

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Speaker 2: because you know, there was always you know, like I said,

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Speaker 2: it was always a little bit semi industrial, you know.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, as I'm being reminded, it's no longer it's

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Speaker 2: the one New Zealand stadium. So given They've paid a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of money for that for the one New

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Speaker 2: Zealand stadiums. I wonder if we've got the full name

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Speaker 2: like one New Zealand Stadium met Car Sometimes they do.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it would be another name next year.

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Speaker 2: Were we please to have a sponsor? Oh, Kevin, you've

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Speaker 2: been thinking about driving tests this week and how much

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Speaker 2: have changed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: When I got my driver's license way back in nineteen

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Speaker 7: I sat in a test and a car that had

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Speaker 7: automatic transmission. The car wasn't mine. There were hardly any

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Speaker 7: automatic cars in New Zealand in the sixties. My driving

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Speaker 7: in stratber bought it into New Zealand, making it easier

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Speaker 7: driver's license no trouble in the automatic, which weirdly also

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Speaker 7: allowed me to drive a manual vehicle, even though I

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Speaker 7: didn't know how to the first thing I had to

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Speaker 7: do when I got my license was to set about

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Speaker 7: teaching myself how to drive our manual family car, a

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Speaker 7: Morris's eleven hundred. What slack driving laws just stood back then?

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Speaker 7: It wasn't till the eighties the law changed so that

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Speaker 7: an endorsement on your license saying you couldn't drive a

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Speaker 4: You still can't if you're on a restricted.

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Speaker 7: License, but now if you have a full license, you

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Speaker 2: You take that. Yeah, you'd lower yourself to that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: It is definitely One New Zealand Stadium. You're sorry. I

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Why six minutes past nine on News Talks EDB so.

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Speaker 2: do you know any more than.

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Speaker 9: That, Zev Yeah, Jack, morning, it happened. It only happened

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Speaker 9: I suppose, yes, he does have prior. I think he

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and and yeah, well bottom line is, let's hope

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Speaker 9: it's okay. So I'm sure you'll have something at ten

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Speaker 2: Jack, Yes, yeah, Yeah, we'll look forward to that. Hey,

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Speaker 9: Don't you love how ah Warriors fans ride this roller

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Speaker 9: Actually, I think we've got to give a few amount

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with that bit of a wake up

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a couple of the selections were intriguing. I think,

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Speaker 2: So I think the thing for me is they have

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Speaker 2: And so I'm very, very more about that, maybe a

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Speaker 9: Well, you're big into the you've got green fingers right, Well,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wonderful, Thank you sir. Catch again very soon now,

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Speaker 2: Tame Jack. I've already nicknamed the new christ Which Stadium

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Speaker 2: the pevlover, says Christine. Do you it looks like a pevlover.

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Speaker 2: three to ten time you get your film picture this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Francesca Rudkin is here with us this morning Killedder.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've got two films this morning. One's on Netflix,

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Speaker 2: one showing in the cinemas at the moment. So let's

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Speaker 2: start there. This is They Will Kill You.

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Speaker 8: The Virgil was built in nineteen twenty three.

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Speaker 11: Today it's one of the most exclusive buildings in Manhattan.

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Speaker 10: Hi, I'm the new maid.

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Speaker 8: This building.

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Speaker 12: It's a temple to see that each once we must

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Speaker 12: be with a human sacer face.

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Speaker 8: Today you are the offering.

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Speaker 2: Well that sounds light.

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Speaker 10: This isn't probably your wheelhouse.

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Speaker 11: This is from Russian writer director Carill Sokolof, and he

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Speaker 11: makes what people are kind of calling in a Western

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Speaker 11: So he likes to create sort of an action flick,

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Speaker 11: but within a building of some sort, and in this

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Speaker 11: particular case, we're in this mysterious New York City high

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Speaker 11: rise building.

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Speaker 10: It's an action comedy horror.

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Speaker 11: It is incredibly stylish and really nicely shot, but it's

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Speaker 11: probably a case of styl over substance here it also

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Speaker 11: happens to be very cory. So basically, we have the

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Speaker 11: story of this woman who name is Asia. She's just

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Speaker 11: out of prison. She goes she gets u out the

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Speaker 11: job at this New York cairise where she's been told

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Speaker 11: her sister is working, and she believes that her sister

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Speaker 11: is in trouble, and so there's a bit of a

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Speaker 11: backstory here.

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Speaker 10: These two sisters were sort of.

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Speaker 11: Physically abused by their father, and Asia, the eldest a,

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Speaker 11: felt guilty that she wasn't there to protect her younger.

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Speaker 10: Sister, Maria.

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Speaker 11: So she's decided now she will do whatever it takes

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Speaker 11: to get Maria out of this building and keep her safe.

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Speaker 11: But she has kind of no idea what she's heading into,

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Speaker 11: and she's essentially heading into a building which she.

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Speaker 10: Cannot get out of. So all the action takes place

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Speaker 10: within this building. As I mentioned, very cleverly shot.

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Speaker 11: The only way out of the building is to go

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Speaker 11: out up all the flaws and out the fire escape,

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Speaker 11: which means that you know, there's lots of different action

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Speaker 11: on each floor Jack. The choreography of the fights is

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Speaker 11: really really good, and there's a wide range of weapons

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Speaker 11: used to keep things interesting. But this is very much

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Speaker 11: kind of that B grade. Let's get as much gore

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Speaker 11: and spurting blood as we possibly can, So it's kind

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Speaker 11: of it's well shot and well did a lot to

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Speaker 11: make him, but it probably looks better than it really is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, I mean sounds like a bit of

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Speaker 2: fun if you're into if you're into that blood, yeah, exactly. Nice. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so that's called they will Kill You that showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 2: Next up this one screaming on Netflix, Peaky Blinders, The

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Speaker 2: Immortal Man.

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Speaker 13: A fir B Proper from so Gypsys. On there's one

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Speaker 13: running with Peaky Blinders like it's nineteen nineteen all over again.

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Speaker 8: God help him because.

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Speaker 14: I love him him?

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Speaker 2: But bye bomb right I tell us about This is

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Speaker 2: obviously a continuation of the Peaky Blinders series.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So the Peaky Blinders TV show was hugely popular.

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Speaker 11: I think I read for about six and this is

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Speaker 11: a film that kind of puts a full stop on

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Speaker 11: a door.

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Speaker 10: Did you watch the TV show?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. It's often recommended though, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, And in a way I feel like I

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Speaker 11: need to go back and watch them all in order

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Speaker 11: to really enjoy this film. Sometimes when there's a film

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Speaker 11: at the end of a TV series like the Downton

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Speaker 11: abby finale, I know people who took their mum to

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Speaker 11: it had never watched any Downton Abbey but really enjoyed

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Speaker 11: the film. I watched this film not being familiar with

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Speaker 11: the characters or what had happened, and I think.

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Speaker 10: That I would have enjoyed it more.

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Speaker 11: If I had been invested in these characters, if I

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Speaker 11: was familiar.

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Speaker 10: With the show.

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Speaker 11: I found that a little bit uneven in its pacing,

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Speaker 11: which made it hard for me to kind of engage

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Speaker 11: and get into it. It's not that you don't you

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Speaker 11: don't understand what's going on or anything like that. It's

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Speaker 11: just that didn't It just took a while to grab me.

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Speaker 11: And then, of course, because you're not sort of invested

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Speaker 11: in the characters. Yeah, when over my head a little bit.

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Speaker 10: But if you are a fan, I think you will

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Speaker 10: love it.

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Speaker 11: Excellent cast Killian Murphy is back as the romani gypsy

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Speaker 11: gang leader that traumatized Birmingham in the early twentieth century.

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Speaker 11: It's in the film is set in nineteen forty. Of course,

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Speaker 11: Tommy was very affected by being in World War One,

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Speaker 11: and you know that sort of influence the way he

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Speaker 11: ran this gang. He is now living on his own

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Speaker 11: in a deserted mansion. He is haunted by ghosts and demons.

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Speaker 11: He is no longer the Tommy Shelby that we know.

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Speaker 11: He's writing a book, which I thought was kind of

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Speaker 11: a bit odd, amusing.

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Speaker 10: He's doing a bit of a memoir about his times.

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Speaker 10: But what's happening is that his son.

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Speaker 11: Played by Barry Keagan, who is fantastic, has taken over

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Speaker 11: the gang and is in full flight and causing a

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Speaker 11: few causing a bit of havoc, and so Tommy is

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Speaker 11: kind of dragged back to Birmingham to sort of sort

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Speaker 11: him out and things. And when he kind of puts

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Speaker 11: the hat back on and turns out backs as Tommy,

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Speaker 11: that's when things kind of it feels like weakless film

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Speaker 11: really kind of kicks off. So look really nicely made,

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Speaker 11: really well put together, very well acted, great cast, Rickaferguson

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Speaker 11: and Tim Roth also appears. Tim Roth strows a little

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Speaker 11: bit of humor into his character, but I do think

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Speaker 11: you will get more out of this film if.

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Speaker 10: You're invested in the TV show and these characters.

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Speaker 11: And this is on Netflix but also in some cinemas

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Speaker 11: as well. Some good action here as well. So if

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Speaker 11: you are a fan, yeah, go and see it at

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Speaker 11: the cinemas. If you're not a fan, give it a

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Speaker 11: whirl on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Yeah, thank you. That's great. So Peaky

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Speaker 2: Blinders The Immortal Man is showing both on Netflix and

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Speaker 2: in some cinemas. They Will Kill You is in cinemas,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have all of the details and information about

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Speaker 2: those films up on the news talk z'd be website.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your messages.

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Speaker 10: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Have loved watching the building of Takaha one New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Stadium from our place up on the Port Hills over

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Speaker 2: look in christ Church. I've been calling it the turbine

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Speaker 2: as it reminds me of a hydro turbine from the

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Speaker 2: dams down south, says f that's interesting. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us

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Speaker 2: a text like Faded this morning and if you really

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Speaker 2: really cannot be bothered hauling yourself off the couch this

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Speaker 2: weekend and making it to the cinemas to see They

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Speaker 2: Will Kill You. Good news. We've after ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 2: got our recommendations in this week's screen time segments. So

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Speaker 2: we always pick out a couple of shows to watch

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Speaker 2: or stream from your place and recommend those every Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: After ten, We're going to have a look at Joan

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Speaker 2: Nizbo's Detective Hole, which sounds really interesting, especially obviously for

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Speaker 2: fans of Joe Newsbo's writing. So I'll give you all

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Speaker 2: the information, tell you a bit more about that show

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Speaker 2: after ten this morning. Right now, it's sixteen to ten.

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Speaker 5: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 5: the weekend news talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be it's fourteen to ten on news Talks. He'd

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Speaker 2: be our cook. Nicki Wicks is here with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Nikki.

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Speaker 16: Yes, god, I'm so happy that your pum grandit's holding out.

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Speaker 2: I know, Thank goodness. I just I knew that you'd

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Speaker 2: be hang on, hang on everywhere? Is the wind was

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Speaker 2: a thing around your place? No, no, the thing is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but we just have the one.

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Speaker 2: So it's the first time it's even fruited. It's the

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Speaker 2: only we only have one pomegranate. I think it's actually

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Speaker 2: kind of normal. I have checked out a couple of

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Speaker 2: gardening blogs that have suggested that this isn't altogether uncommon.

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Speaker 2: But I would be devastated if I were to lose

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Speaker 2: my pomegranate. So absolutely, there you go.

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Speaker 16: I think if it's hanging through that, through that storm,

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Speaker 16: I think you're going to be okay.

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Speaker 2: I think so, I want to.

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Speaker 16: Turn out attention to apples are far more common, and

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Speaker 16: I think rather underrated.

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Speaker 2: Fruit totally, especially at this time of year.

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Speaker 16: A oh, they're so good to talk about that and salt.

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Speaker 16: There are two things that we really take for granted.

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Speaker 16: I think, so, look, I've put this beautiful dessert together,

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Speaker 16: assalted caramel baked apples. We all know the old baked

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Speaker 16: apples that were sort of you know, really my mum

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Speaker 16: used to knock these out just all the time with

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Speaker 16: cinnamon and.

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Speaker 10: All of that.

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Speaker 16: But I've sort of taken it up a bit of

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Speaker 16: a notch and made them with salted caramel because I

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Speaker 16: love salted caramel. It's a bit of you know, it

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Speaker 16: was a bit of a tree. But I think, you know,

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Speaker 16: for me, it's it's just a winner, and I love

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Speaker 16: that sweet salty sort of you know element.

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Speaker 10: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the time people people to

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Speaker 2: get on like that. It was definitely a trend. But

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes they didn't sufficiently salt the salted caramel.

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Speaker 2: I think, yes, yes.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, actually you've got to.

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Speaker 16: I've got one teaspoon of sea salt flakes in this,

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Speaker 16: So I think that's important. Is if you're going to

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Speaker 16: go salted caramel, you really got to salt it, okay,

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Speaker 16: because otherwise you're just wasting your time. You're wasting your time.

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Speaker 16: So look, baked apples. You can use any sort of

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Speaker 16: apple really for this. Traditionally Granny Smith, but if you

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Speaker 16: want a slightly faster cook you could use just some

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Speaker 16: red you know, the red Royal Gala or something like that.

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Speaker 16: Bray Bourn would get you there as well. Obviously, some

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Speaker 16: apples are made for cooking and others are uh and

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Speaker 16: others are you know, just eating, and may for snacking.

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Speaker 16: That's what I was looking for.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 16: Look, I usually use Granny Smith's, but if you want

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Speaker 16: to slightly fast heat your oven to one hundred and

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Speaker 16: eighty degrees celsius through the four large apples, this is

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Speaker 16: going to do about four to six people.

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Speaker 10: I have them through the wist.

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Speaker 4: I love that expression.

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Speaker 16: Halve it through the waist, and then take the core out,

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Speaker 16: so you've sort of got a slightly you know, shallower,

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Speaker 16: you know apple if you like, so it's going to

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Speaker 16: be a little bit faster. Put them in a lovely

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Speaker 16: oven dish that you've buttered, and then add also into

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Speaker 16: that half a cup of brown sugar. Mix this all together,

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Speaker 16: twenty five grams of butter, three tablespoons of water, and

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Speaker 16: that teaspoon of sea salt flakes. Mix all of that together,

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Speaker 16: and then put your and pull that around the apple.

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Speaker 16: Scatter over some walnuts, because I think that's yummy. Walnuts

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Speaker 16: and apples. They both, you know, they both love the autumn.

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Speaker 16: Cover it tightly with foil and bake it for about

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Speaker 16: twenty minutes. Jack. Then take that foil off, baste your

649
00:33:58,773 --> 00:34:00,973
Speaker 16: apples with the syrup. You can do this a few

650
00:34:00,973 --> 00:34:03,613
Speaker 16: times if you like. Cock it for about another twenty

651
00:34:03,653 --> 00:34:06,373
Speaker 16: to thirty minutes, less if you're using a red apple,

652
00:34:06,493 --> 00:34:09,493
Speaker 16: because they'll go fluffy and mushy, but your your granny

653
00:34:09,533 --> 00:34:12,573
Speaker 16: smith will hold and you should have a lovely sort

654
00:34:12,613 --> 00:34:15,933
Speaker 16: of soft caramel sauce that's kind of syruped up if

655
00:34:15,973 --> 00:34:18,813
Speaker 16: you haven't, but the apple's a cook cooked. Just boil

656
00:34:18,973 --> 00:34:23,093
Speaker 16: that syrup off separately, but it's a beautiful salty caramel flavor.

657
00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:26,093
Speaker 16: Serve them while still hot with a lovely big dollop

658
00:34:26,133 --> 00:34:30,973
Speaker 16: of sour cream. Maybe it's lovely cream fresh or whipped cream,

659
00:34:31,093 --> 00:34:34,933
Speaker 16: and it just offsets that that sweetness just beautifully, because

660
00:34:34,933 --> 00:34:36,933
Speaker 16: that syrup is quite sweet as well as having the

661
00:34:36,973 --> 00:34:39,173
Speaker 16: salty element, and it's just beautiful.

662
00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:40,253
Speaker 10: I love these.

663
00:34:40,293 --> 00:34:45,933
Speaker 2: They're so good, so got like tasting relatively relatively simple,

664
00:34:47,173 --> 00:34:47,773
Speaker 2: really simple.

665
00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:49,293
Speaker 16: Just bang them in the oven and get done good.

666
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:52,133
Speaker 16: One for Easter, maybe next week week.

667
00:34:52,053 --> 00:34:53,973
Speaker 2: Just when you feel like a little bit of an

668
00:34:54,013 --> 00:34:56,573
Speaker 2: elevated dessert. But actually you've got you haven't bored anything,

669
00:34:56,613 --> 00:35:01,693
Speaker 2: you haven't gone out what I meantally.

670
00:35:00,773 --> 00:35:03,573
Speaker 16: You've got all of those elements always in the pantry.

671
00:35:04,133 --> 00:35:04,893
Speaker 10: Sea salt flakes.

672
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Speaker 16: We've got time to have a quick about the I

673
00:35:07,293 --> 00:35:10,213
Speaker 16: get a great present for people, I think because they

674
00:35:10,693 --> 00:35:13,773
Speaker 16: cost about one thousand dollars in the supermarket, but I

675
00:35:13,813 --> 00:35:17,493
Speaker 16: always feel like there's such a wonderful luxury item. I'm

676
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:20,493
Speaker 16: a fan of the molden They're probably my fave, my

677
00:35:20,653 --> 00:35:23,133
Speaker 16: go to. They've just got a beautiful flake, but they

678
00:35:23,213 --> 00:35:26,653
Speaker 16: do come from overseas. We do have some sea salt

679
00:35:26,693 --> 00:35:29,093
Speaker 16: flakes that are made here in New Zealand. I want

680
00:35:29,093 --> 00:35:31,373
Speaker 16: to say a peto, babe, I'm I have. That's slightly wrong,

681
00:35:31,773 --> 00:35:34,253
Speaker 16: but look for some local ones if you like. And

682
00:35:34,933 --> 00:35:37,373
Speaker 16: the deal with the sea salt flake is you get

683
00:35:37,373 --> 00:35:39,493
Speaker 16: a slightly less harsh saltiness.

684
00:35:39,653 --> 00:35:39,813
Speaker 14: Right.

685
00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:42,173
Speaker 16: So because of the nature of the little sort of

686
00:35:42,493 --> 00:35:45,933
Speaker 16: crystals or flakes, they haven't got as much surface area

687
00:35:45,973 --> 00:35:49,453
Speaker 16: as say you granulated tape salt that is also packed

688
00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:51,973
Speaker 16: full of anti caking agents, so to sort of put

689
00:35:52,013 --> 00:35:55,013
Speaker 16: that on your tongue it's quite an explosion, whereas you

690
00:35:55,053 --> 00:35:57,973
Speaker 16: get this beautiful soft roundness with a sea salt flake.

691
00:35:58,293 --> 00:36:00,693
Speaker 16: People often love the pink the pink salt as well.

692
00:36:00,733 --> 00:36:05,293
Speaker 16: The Himalayan apparently more nutritious, but I'm not so sure.

693
00:36:05,333 --> 00:36:07,733
Speaker 16: I think saltice salt is salt in some ways.

694
00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:09,093
Speaker 8: Some of them have a bit more mineral in them.

695
00:36:09,573 --> 00:36:11,213
Speaker 16: But you want to find you want to you want

696
00:36:11,213 --> 00:36:12,933
Speaker 16: to be getting some id in into you as well.

697
00:36:13,613 --> 00:36:15,533
Speaker 16: And then just a quick tip for those of you listening,

698
00:36:15,613 --> 00:36:17,293
Speaker 16: saying don't you know. We've been told not to eat

699
00:36:17,293 --> 00:36:17,933
Speaker 16: so much salt.

700
00:36:18,253 --> 00:36:19,333
Speaker 10: If you have, if you're on a.

701
00:36:19,253 --> 00:36:23,133
Speaker 16: Low salt diet, then you season things instead with lemon

702
00:36:23,253 --> 00:36:26,013
Speaker 16: or chili. Will also pick up other flavors. For salt

703
00:36:26,093 --> 00:36:28,573
Speaker 16: is just a seasoning that highlights, you know.

704
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:32,813
Speaker 2: So there you go, very good double Bay salt. Have

705
00:36:32,973 --> 00:36:37,173
Speaker 2: really fancy salt on the salts, And you're so right

706
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:40,333
Speaker 2: in that fancy salt is not something that most of

707
00:36:40,373 --> 00:36:43,653
Speaker 2: us by ourselves, is it, But it is a real

708
00:36:43,693 --> 00:36:46,933
Speaker 2: treat and something like that just in the elevate dish

709
00:36:46,973 --> 00:36:48,293
Speaker 2: to dish, you know.

710
00:36:48,373 --> 00:36:49,973
Speaker 10: Yeah, but just use it, use it, use it.

711
00:36:50,093 --> 00:36:52,093
Speaker 16: Use I think sometimes people after have it and go, oh,

712
00:36:52,133 --> 00:36:54,333
Speaker 16: what am I supposed to use? I only have sea

713
00:36:54,373 --> 00:36:57,213
Speaker 16: salt flakes pretty much just because I'm a food styless,

714
00:36:57,213 --> 00:37:00,453
Speaker 16: so obviously they look better on food then your table salt.

715
00:37:00,453 --> 00:37:02,933
Speaker 16: The only thing I salt is pasta water and rice water,

716
00:37:02,973 --> 00:37:05,173
Speaker 16: that sort of thing with my usual cerebus.

717
00:37:05,173 --> 00:37:06,853
Speaker 10: But there you go, So yeah salt.

718
00:37:06,853 --> 00:37:07,733
Speaker 17: Give it away as gifts.

719
00:37:07,773 --> 00:37:09,013
Speaker 10: It's a really nice little idea.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Nikki, love it. You have a great weekend

721
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Speaker 2: and we will catch again soon. That amazing sounding salted

722
00:37:14,213 --> 00:37:17,173
Speaker 2: caroen more baked apple recipe will be up on the

723
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Speaker 2: news talks ZB website so you can make it as well.

724
00:37:19,493 --> 00:37:21,733
Speaker 2: And yeah, I double checked it. It is indeed or

725
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,853
Speaker 2: Pete or bay salt comes from the coromander. It looks

726
00:37:23,933 --> 00:37:26,133
Speaker 2: very fancy. Actually it's very fancy. Indeed, they've got all

727
00:37:26,173 --> 00:37:30,213
Speaker 2: the different flavors, the black garlic sea salt, fenel and

728
00:37:30,293 --> 00:37:32,773
Speaker 2: thyme sea salt. There you go, truffle sea salt. You

729
00:37:32,813 --> 00:37:34,133
Speaker 2: probably want to make sure you don't have the truffle

730
00:37:34,173 --> 00:37:35,573
Speaker 2: sea salt with the baked apple. That might be a

731
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Speaker 2: bit strange. Thank you for your messages. Jack being very informed, Ah,

732
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Speaker 2: Paul knows away to my heart flattery Aple being very informed.

733
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Speaker 2: You may know if there are any restrictions on caravanning

734
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Speaker 2: and boating over Easter to save fuel. I don't think

735
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Speaker 2: there are as of yet, Paul. We're still at phase

736
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Speaker 2: one of the response. At the stage, I think if

737
00:37:52,813 --> 00:37:54,693
Speaker 2: you can afford it, you are allowed to use it.

738
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Speaker 2: Six minutes to ten on news doorgsz'b.

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Speaker 5: Giving you the inside scoop on a ball you need

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Speaker 5: to know Saturday morning with Jack Team newstalg V.

741
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Speaker 2: If you said to me at the end of last

742
00:38:07,733 --> 00:38:09,893
Speaker 2: year that christ Church was New Zealand's most vibrant city.

743
00:38:09,933 --> 00:38:11,773
Speaker 2: I would have laughed in your face, but I visited

744
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Speaker 2: over the summer and I've got to say, dot dot dot,

745
00:38:14,133 --> 00:38:17,893
Speaker 2: I agree. It'll be even more amazing once that stadium

746
00:38:17,973 --> 00:38:20,013
Speaker 2: is open for business. Well, it is open for business now,

747
00:38:20,333 --> 00:38:22,573
Speaker 2: thank you, Peter. It is open for business. They haven't

748
00:38:22,573 --> 00:38:24,813
Speaker 2: obviously had their first game or concert there yet, but

749
00:38:24,893 --> 00:38:30,093
Speaker 2: officially opened yesterday. Can't wait to see Takaha one New

750
00:38:30,173 --> 00:38:32,693
Speaker 2: Zealand Stadium from the inside. Now after ten o'clock on

751
00:38:32,733 --> 00:38:35,213
Speaker 2: news talks, he'd be big changes are coming to the

752
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Speaker 2: company behind chat GPT. Our textbook's going to be in

753
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Speaker 2: He's going to explain those as well as that Rud's

754
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Speaker 2: going to be in the garden before eleven o'clock and

755
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Speaker 2: he reckons. He has come across an amazing new bait.

756
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Speaker 2: So if you've got problems with rats or he ch

757
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Speaker 2: holds or anything at your place, you've been laying out traps,

758
00:38:54,213 --> 00:38:56,453
Speaker 2: you haven't been catching much rude reckons. He's got the

759
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Speaker 2: bait that is going to make all the difference. So

760
00:38:58,053 --> 00:39:00,173
Speaker 2: he's going to share that with us and right after

761
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Speaker 2: ten o'clock our feature interview this morning. Susie Eddie is

762
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Speaker 2: cannot wait for that news is next. It's almost ten

763
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Speaker 2: Saturday morning. I'm Jack tamed. This is Newstalgs EDB.

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Speaker 5: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 5: dam News Talks v.

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Speaker 2: Any you were Jactaime on Newstalks dB through the Midday

767
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Speaker 2: today a comedy heavyweight Edsyizzards material has taken on a

768
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Speaker 2: life of its own now. Going by Susie Eddie, she

769
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Speaker 2: doesn't just tell jokes, she has rewritten history. The comedian,

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Speaker 2: actor and politician, yes, politician, has captivated audience with a

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Speaker 2: career that has consistently pushed things forward, and she is

772
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Speaker 2: literally a trailblazer, having also run more than one hundred marathons.

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Speaker 2: Idie will grace New Zealand stages with two shows this

774
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Speaker 2: year that couldn't be more different, taking on all twenty

775
00:40:14,853 --> 00:40:18,733
Speaker 2: three roles in Shakespeare's Hamlet and remixing some of her

776
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Speaker 2: most iconic stand up moments from across the last thirty

777
00:40:21,933 --> 00:40:25,613
Speaker 2: five years of comedy shows. Susie Eddy is with me

778
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Speaker 2: this morning, Calder.

779
00:40:26,453 --> 00:40:29,053
Speaker 8: Good morning, good morning, how are you.

780
00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:31,933
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you delighted to be speaking with you,

781
00:40:31,973 --> 00:40:33,653
Speaker 2: delighted that you're going to be coming to New Zealand.

782
00:40:33,653 --> 00:40:35,773
Speaker 2: Am I right in thinking you're coming twice? Or are

783
00:40:35,773 --> 00:40:38,013
Speaker 2: you just planning to sort of get a holiday and

784
00:40:38,053 --> 00:40:38,813
Speaker 2: stay here for a year.

785
00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:43,133
Speaker 3: No, I'm coming twice. So this is basically what it is.

786
00:40:43,293 --> 00:40:45,933
Speaker 3: Hamlet is what I'm touring at the moment. But I

787
00:40:45,973 --> 00:40:48,253
Speaker 3: had another day. I have another day of which I

788
00:40:48,293 --> 00:40:50,413
Speaker 3: haven't been leaning on so much. But I haven't been

789
00:40:50,453 --> 00:40:53,293
Speaker 3: since before COVID. I haven't been to New Zealand with

790
00:40:53,333 --> 00:40:56,253
Speaker 3: my comedy. So just like Shakespeare went from his comedies

791
00:40:56,333 --> 00:40:58,693
Speaker 3: to his dramas and tragedies, so am I. So you

792
00:40:58,733 --> 00:41:01,733
Speaker 3: can buy two days for me if you are crazy

793
00:41:01,813 --> 00:41:03,613
Speaker 3: and you want to see the difference. I started off

794
00:41:03,613 --> 00:41:05,053
Speaker 3: with my drama game. But when I was seven, I

795
00:41:05,053 --> 00:41:06,253
Speaker 3: wanted to be an ax. I didn't want to be

796
00:41:06,253 --> 00:41:09,093
Speaker 3: a I didn't know that you could specialize in comedy. So,

797
00:41:09,293 --> 00:41:12,453
Speaker 3: just like Shakespeare did, start with his comedies and and

798
00:41:12,493 --> 00:41:14,453
Speaker 3: then he progressed, and I'm one of my first My

799
00:41:14,493 --> 00:41:16,413
Speaker 3: first ever Shakespeare was Comedy of Vera's.

800
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Speaker 8: And now I'm doing Hamlet.

801
00:41:18,293 --> 00:41:21,493
Speaker 3: So you can come to see me in uh well,

802
00:41:21,533 --> 00:41:24,693
Speaker 3: basically in Wellington and Oakland, doing both in christ Yes,

803
00:41:24,733 --> 00:41:26,453
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry you're going to have to take a

804
00:41:26,493 --> 00:41:30,413
Speaker 3: little flight over to the north, but I will be

805
00:41:30,453 --> 00:41:32,733
Speaker 3: back and I'm going to tour a Hamlet forever. So yeah,

806
00:41:32,733 --> 00:41:35,093
Speaker 3: it starts off with remix and then I come back

807
00:41:35,613 --> 00:41:36,573
Speaker 3: with Hamlets.

808
00:41:36,693 --> 00:41:39,133
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Let's let's put Hamlet to one side for a

809
00:41:39,133 --> 00:41:40,733
Speaker 2: moment to ask about it in a couple of minutes.

810
00:41:40,733 --> 00:41:44,173
Speaker 2: But since you're beginning with remix's, let's start there. How

811
00:41:44,213 --> 00:41:47,453
Speaker 2: do you go back and choose the characters you want

812
00:41:47,493 --> 00:41:50,293
Speaker 2: to play and the skits you want to remix for

813
00:41:50,413 --> 00:41:52,133
Speaker 2: a career as distinguished as yours?

814
00:41:53,413 --> 00:41:56,293
Speaker 8: Distinguished? Thank you for the distinguished. I feel like I

815
00:41:56,293 --> 00:41:57,573
Speaker 8: should speak like this now.

816
00:41:58,653 --> 00:42:00,693
Speaker 2: It's well, you are a Shakespearean actor, you know.

817
00:42:00,733 --> 00:42:05,973
Speaker 8: I could be going. I am just here waiting until

818
00:42:05,973 --> 00:42:08,333
Speaker 8: I say no. One of the great things. Well, we're

819
00:42:08,373 --> 00:42:09,253
Speaker 8: going to watch Chace for later.

820
00:42:09,333 --> 00:42:10,853
Speaker 3: But one of the things about the Hamlet is that

821
00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:13,293
Speaker 3: we do not do arcting as it's called.

822
00:42:13,533 --> 00:42:16,173
Speaker 8: Oh but the wind of the now.

823
00:42:16,253 --> 00:42:19,453
Speaker 2: Was the Winter of our Discontent glorious.

824
00:42:19,533 --> 00:42:22,173
Speaker 8: Yeah, and we keep it very visceral.

825
00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:25,893
Speaker 3: But anyway, on the comedy, The beautiful thing is I

826
00:42:25,933 --> 00:42:28,533
Speaker 3: can change at night tonight and so and then people

827
00:42:28,533 --> 00:42:29,253
Speaker 3: say why are you doing this?

828
00:42:29,293 --> 00:42:30,853
Speaker 8: Bit? I go, oh, yeah, why am I doing this?

829
00:42:30,853 --> 00:42:31,813
Speaker 8: But I could put that bit.

830
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Speaker 3: And I've just come up with a new idea that

831
00:42:34,013 --> 00:42:37,733
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about about Bondie Prince Charlie, who

832
00:42:37,813 --> 00:42:42,973
Speaker 3: was the Jacobite leader in the in the Highlands of Scotland,

833
00:42:42,973 --> 00:42:45,093
Speaker 3: which I'm sure New Zealand people, even though it's not

834
00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:48,093
Speaker 3: their direct history in the country, New Zealanders, none of

835
00:42:48,093 --> 00:42:51,253
Speaker 3: them have links back to Britain. And so you can

836
00:42:51,333 --> 00:42:54,493
Speaker 3: talk about that because they didn't. Yeah, I realized that

837
00:42:54,613 --> 00:42:56,613
Speaker 3: they didn't need a bonnie Prince Charlie. But he is

838
00:42:56,693 --> 00:42:59,013
Speaker 3: really bunny. You see there's a painting on when he's

839
00:42:59,013 --> 00:43:00,573
Speaker 3: twenty and he turns out when he's twenty five.

840
00:43:00,573 --> 00:43:03,533
Speaker 8: In Scotland. You know about this the Jacobite Rebellion Ireland.

841
00:43:04,293 --> 00:43:07,253
Speaker 3: Imagine Highlanders they did to take over the whole of

842
00:43:07,293 --> 00:43:09,253
Speaker 3: the whole of England, and they got a long way,

843
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:11,533
Speaker 3: they got halfway down England and they turned right their

844
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:16,253
Speaker 3: way back. But there he was only a Catholic Protestant argument.

845
00:43:16,413 --> 00:43:18,813
Speaker 3: It's one of those old chestnuts. But he really looks

846
00:43:18,893 --> 00:43:21,373
Speaker 3: very pretty. That's someone who's a trans woman and you know,

847
00:43:21,853 --> 00:43:23,693
Speaker 3: has a boyish look about me. I can go, well,

848
00:43:23,733 --> 00:43:25,973
Speaker 3: that's pretty good look at twenty, but I don't think

849
00:43:25,973 --> 00:43:28,573
Speaker 3: it's what you need when you're landing and up in

850
00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:31,733
Speaker 3: the highlands of Scotland with only seven people and trying

851
00:43:31,733 --> 00:43:35,573
Speaker 3: to whip all the tripe, the tribes, the the the well,

852
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:38,413
Speaker 3: they're not called tripes, are called the clans. Whipping the

853
00:43:38,453 --> 00:43:40,653
Speaker 3: clans up into a furor to say, come on and

854
00:43:40,813 --> 00:43:43,573
Speaker 3: take on the Sassanax, the English and we'll go south.

855
00:43:43,933 --> 00:43:47,253
Speaker 3: And what you want is psychopathic Prince Charlie. Don't You

856
00:43:47,253 --> 00:43:48,813
Speaker 3: don't want bonny Prince Charlie, you want cycle.

857
00:43:49,053 --> 00:43:51,173
Speaker 8: And so I just come up with ideas. They saw

858
00:43:51,213 --> 00:43:52,213
Speaker 8: all these ideas.

859
00:43:51,853 --> 00:43:53,693
Speaker 3: Going back were like that where you can play on

860
00:43:53,933 --> 00:43:55,933
Speaker 3: surely psychopathic Prince Charlie.

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00:43:56,013 --> 00:43:56,933
Speaker 8: Couldn't we do that?

862
00:43:57,293 --> 00:43:59,253
Speaker 10: Just no?

863
00:43:59,613 --> 00:44:01,813
Speaker 8: I perfect because he was Italian. He grew up in Italy.

864
00:44:01,813 --> 00:44:03,733
Speaker 3: He was he was the grandson of the of the

865
00:44:03,773 --> 00:44:06,493
Speaker 3: guy who had been king and had run away, and

866
00:44:06,693 --> 00:44:08,933
Speaker 3: so he would have been in Italian. And Billy Colly's

867
00:44:08,933 --> 00:44:11,133
Speaker 3: done a whole piece on how he's how he was

868
00:44:11,213 --> 00:44:13,613
Speaker 3: very kind of pretty and that, but this is all

869
00:44:13,853 --> 00:44:17,293
Speaker 3: I'm leading into the psychopathic edge on it, and so anyway,

870
00:44:17,333 --> 00:44:18,813
Speaker 3: so I can do so that's new, and I can

871
00:44:18,893 --> 00:44:20,933
Speaker 3: drop that in if I want, because it's remixed. It's

872
00:44:20,933 --> 00:44:23,733
Speaker 3: remixing anything in my brain and all this stuff, and

873
00:44:23,773 --> 00:44:25,933
Speaker 3: I literally can go, oh, let's do this, but no

874
00:44:25,933 --> 00:44:28,933
Speaker 3: that stuff. Let's let's do this tonight or ad lib

875
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,813
Speaker 3: and and and it is remix like the Death Star

876
00:44:31,853 --> 00:44:35,293
Speaker 3: canteen is a piece I know about Darth Vader, the

877
00:44:35,933 --> 00:44:37,293
Speaker 3: same we've destroyed all around.

878
00:44:37,453 --> 00:44:40,333
Speaker 8: Oh love death. Yeah, that's what we do with that stuff.

879
00:44:40,613 --> 00:44:43,653
Speaker 3: Let's go down and celebrate in the canteen, and and

880
00:44:43,693 --> 00:44:45,853
Speaker 3: the woman behind the couch going you need a trade

881
00:44:45,933 --> 00:44:50,213
Speaker 3: or I do not need it, and this whole status

882
00:44:50,333 --> 00:44:53,013
Speaker 3: argument that was going on, but I changed it.

883
00:44:53,013 --> 00:44:54,653
Speaker 8: It was obviously recorded on.

884
00:44:54,493 --> 00:44:58,053
Speaker 3: One day goes out and a bit like jazz musicians

885
00:44:58,173 --> 00:45:01,653
Speaker 3: or I'm gonna put Jimmy Page in here. I think

886
00:45:01,733 --> 00:45:04,613
Speaker 3: night to night Jimmy was doing just different solos. All

887
00:45:04,653 --> 00:45:07,973
Speaker 3: the great guitarists would do doing that, just coming up

888
00:45:07,973 --> 00:45:11,173
Speaker 3: with different things. And the day that was recorded, that

889
00:45:11,413 --> 00:45:14,213
Speaker 3: was the Desk Star can teen version that went out.

890
00:45:14,493 --> 00:45:16,253
Speaker 3: But I've just moved in about now and moved some

891
00:45:16,333 --> 00:45:18,053
Speaker 3: of the pieces. So the people listening we I know this,

892
00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:19,533
Speaker 3: Oh I don't know this. I do know this, I

893
00:45:19,533 --> 00:45:21,773
Speaker 3: don't know this, and and I just take it off

894
00:45:21,773 --> 00:45:23,533
Speaker 3: in different directions. So that's what it is. It is

895
00:45:23,573 --> 00:45:30,933
Speaker 3: a remix with additional stuff. It's the directors, the director,

896
00:45:31,013 --> 00:45:33,053
Speaker 3: active performers visit.

897
00:45:32,853 --> 00:45:33,973
Speaker 8: And so it lives.

898
00:45:34,213 --> 00:45:36,293
Speaker 3: That's the thing is it lives as opposed to it's

899
00:45:36,333 --> 00:45:38,333
Speaker 3: old and we put it out and it's it's the

900
00:45:38,373 --> 00:45:41,853
Speaker 3: old prayer from before. It's a it's got essences of that,

901
00:45:41,893 --> 00:45:43,053
Speaker 3: but also new stuff as well.

902
00:45:43,293 --> 00:45:46,333
Speaker 2: Every every night is essentially unique. Well has the teachers

903
00:45:46,373 --> 00:45:49,293
Speaker 2: to be unique, and and that order things. Yeah, yeah

904
00:45:49,693 --> 00:45:50,413
Speaker 2: from the night before.

905
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:54,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably won't be drastically. Oh it's probably only about

906
00:45:54,573 --> 00:45:56,893
Speaker 3: five percent different. But you know, I would drop things out,

907
00:45:56,933 --> 00:45:59,533
Speaker 3: put that in yesterda and it'll have this difference and feeling.

908
00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:02,013
Speaker 3: It's like a conversation. That's the thing about my standup.

909
00:46:02,053 --> 00:46:07,093
Speaker 3: It has this conversational feel as opposed to a this

910
00:46:07,173 --> 00:46:11,213
Speaker 3: is the thing tonight doesn't move. And some people live

911
00:46:11,253 --> 00:46:13,893
Speaker 3: for that, but I live for the and I think

912
00:46:13,933 --> 00:46:17,613
Speaker 3: the audiences respond to what I'm doing in in comedy

913
00:46:17,693 --> 00:46:20,133
Speaker 3: in this way drama different. You have to set to

914
00:46:20,173 --> 00:46:23,293
Speaker 3: the to the text of Shakespeare's text, but emotionally I

915
00:46:23,293 --> 00:46:24,133
Speaker 3: can move it every night.

916
00:46:24,213 --> 00:46:25,173
Speaker 8: That's the thing I can do.

917
00:46:25,813 --> 00:46:30,093
Speaker 2: We'll talk about Yeah, so did this involved planning for

918
00:46:30,093 --> 00:46:34,053
Speaker 2: for the remix to involve kind of a studious period

919
00:46:34,053 --> 00:46:36,693
Speaker 2: of sitting down and going back and thinking about the

920
00:46:36,773 --> 00:46:39,053
Speaker 2: characters you played over the years and saying, well, let's age,

921
00:46:39,053 --> 00:46:41,893
Speaker 2: well that hasn't necessarily here's something, here's a new take

922
00:46:41,973 --> 00:46:43,933
Speaker 2: on that was it? Was it kind of that deliberate?

923
00:46:44,813 --> 00:46:46,253
Speaker 8: What do you think I know?

924
00:46:47,853 --> 00:46:51,133
Speaker 3: I was lazy, asked, well, you see, it's a jazz thing.

925
00:46:51,213 --> 00:46:55,653
Speaker 3: Do jazz musicians sit down and which shall I use today?

926
00:46:55,773 --> 00:47:00,293
Speaker 2: No, it's kind of style almost Yeah, yeah.

927
00:46:59,533 --> 00:47:02,453
Speaker 3: It's it's it's not it's jazz. It's let's go with jazz.

928
00:47:02,493 --> 00:47:04,933
Speaker 3: I go with the jazz players. Because I played Lenny

929
00:47:04,973 --> 00:47:08,093
Speaker 3: Bruce on stage, and he first took off by by

930
00:47:09,013 --> 00:47:11,173
Speaker 3: by performing in strip clubs and trying to make the

931
00:47:11,213 --> 00:47:13,413
Speaker 3: band love behind him. Because he had a whole career

932
00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:15,653
Speaker 3: that's very mainstream. If you look up very early some

933
00:47:15,693 --> 00:47:19,853
Speaker 3: footage on YouTube of early Lenny Brews, the very political

934
00:47:19,893 --> 00:47:22,933
Speaker 3: and edgy American comic of the late fifties going into

935
00:47:22,933 --> 00:47:27,613
Speaker 3: the sixties, and he was it was wildly mainstream, so

936
00:47:27,773 --> 00:47:31,373
Speaker 3: Benny Hill like and then and then it moves over

937
00:47:31,653 --> 00:47:33,333
Speaker 3: and he says, I'm not gonna play.

938
00:47:33,173 --> 00:47:34,853
Speaker 8: In it this stuff. Anyone'm gonna go to play strip clubs.

939
00:47:34,933 --> 00:47:36,133
Speaker 3: And then he's trying to make the band love because

940
00:47:36,133 --> 00:47:38,293
Speaker 3: obviusly the strippers went it's the people watching the strippers

941
00:47:38,293 --> 00:47:41,413
Speaker 3: went into it. And then the the word got out

942
00:47:41,453 --> 00:47:42,973
Speaker 3: to the college kids and they said, come on players,

943
00:47:42,973 --> 00:47:44,893
Speaker 3: because this sounds great. And then he started getting more political,

944
00:47:45,613 --> 00:47:48,013
Speaker 3: so that said, I'm playing for the for the people

945
00:47:48,053 --> 00:47:49,453
Speaker 3: who understand.

946
00:47:48,973 --> 00:47:52,453
Speaker 8: When hey, we're flying, we're moving, wre it's alive. That's

947
00:47:52,453 --> 00:47:53,133
Speaker 8: what I'm playing for.

948
00:47:53,253 --> 00:47:57,493
Speaker 2: Have you been surprised by some of the components that

949
00:47:57,613 --> 00:48:01,693
Speaker 2: have aged especially well or heaven't necessarily well?

950
00:48:01,693 --> 00:48:03,933
Speaker 3: You see they o I designed them to age very well.

951
00:48:04,693 --> 00:48:08,733
Speaker 3: Now if you any yeah, yes, yes I would. That's

952
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:09,453
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about.

953
00:48:09,573 --> 00:48:12,333
Speaker 8: Planning. Yeah, I do plan, But then I'm very lazy.

954
00:48:12,773 --> 00:48:16,573
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm a highly driven lazy person. So I

955
00:48:17,053 --> 00:48:19,933
Speaker 3: worked out Monty Python. It's you know the silliness of it.

956
00:48:20,013 --> 00:48:21,333
Speaker 3: Some of the sketches. If you look back at the

957
00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:23,733
Speaker 3: TV show, which we can all download, you can say,

958
00:48:23,733 --> 00:48:25,613
Speaker 3: well that doesn't really work and it's not so funny,

959
00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:29,373
Speaker 3: but nearly all of it works, and it's stupidity. The

960
00:48:29,893 --> 00:48:32,573
Speaker 3: completely Twitter the Year Award. You can still do it now,

961
00:48:32,653 --> 00:48:35,573
Speaker 3: it's just it's fine. But what they decided to do

962
00:48:35,653 --> 00:48:37,853
Speaker 3: is nothing topical. And if you do topical saying well,

963
00:48:37,933 --> 00:48:40,853
Speaker 3: missus stature this, you know obviously that's so dated.

964
00:48:40,933 --> 00:48:42,013
Speaker 8: Now you can't do that, you.

965
00:48:42,653 --> 00:48:45,013
Speaker 3: Know, so you I realize you go into politics, and

966
00:48:45,053 --> 00:48:46,573
Speaker 3: I am planning to go into politics.

967
00:48:46,573 --> 00:48:49,413
Speaker 8: Brother, I'll do I'll do it differently there, but I'll

968
00:48:49,453 --> 00:48:50,973
Speaker 8: just keep this all alive.

969
00:48:51,213 --> 00:48:53,893
Speaker 3: Historical politics you can do. You can historical politics, you know,

970
00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:54,933
Speaker 3: talking about kings.

971
00:48:54,973 --> 00:48:56,493
Speaker 8: You know Henry Yates, why did he do this? Why

972
00:48:56,493 --> 00:48:59,333
Speaker 8: did he fight you know in the against the pope?

973
00:48:59,373 --> 00:48:59,973
Speaker 8: He was with the pope.

974
00:49:00,013 --> 00:49:01,293
Speaker 3: Then it was against the pope because he wanted to

975
00:49:01,293 --> 00:49:03,693
Speaker 3: have a male heir, and he did have one, but

976
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:05,173
Speaker 3: that kid died after five years.

977
00:49:05,173 --> 00:49:06,053
Speaker 8: You know, it all went wrong.

978
00:49:06,493 --> 00:49:09,173
Speaker 3: Henry Eate decided to eat everything that was in front

979
00:49:09,173 --> 00:49:11,613
Speaker 3: of him behind him, so that all went on. I

980
00:49:11,613 --> 00:49:13,533
Speaker 3: can talk about that because it doesn't move you see,

981
00:49:13,573 --> 00:49:15,453
Speaker 3: sure if you come up with comedy and then it

982
00:49:15,573 --> 00:49:18,933
Speaker 3: moves the whole zeitguy's the reason now you brought it up.

983
00:49:19,173 --> 00:49:22,373
Speaker 3: That's the goddamn waste of time, as they say in China.

984
00:49:22,573 --> 00:49:25,573
Speaker 3: And so I thought, don't do that and just do

985
00:49:25,693 --> 00:49:27,373
Speaker 3: stuff about human sacrifice.

986
00:49:27,373 --> 00:49:28,013
Speaker 8: Why is it there?

987
00:49:28,173 --> 00:49:31,093
Speaker 3: Why did they decide to kill people? Because gods must

988
00:49:31,133 --> 00:49:33,213
Speaker 3: have created those people. Why would you kill the people

989
00:49:33,213 --> 00:49:36,613
Speaker 3: that the gods have created? You know, to say, surely,

990
00:49:36,773 --> 00:49:38,413
Speaker 3: even if it's a lamb or a thing or a

991
00:49:38,453 --> 00:49:40,933
Speaker 3: goot or whatever, the gods must have created them. So

992
00:49:40,973 --> 00:49:44,213
Speaker 3: there must have been someone going this is insanity. We

993
00:49:44,253 --> 00:49:46,573
Speaker 3: won't get better crops by doing this, We'll get worse crops.

994
00:49:46,933 --> 00:49:49,133
Speaker 3: That's what I would have argued in the court of

995
00:49:49,973 --> 00:49:53,173
Speaker 3: the court of those ancient tribal nutbags.

996
00:49:53,173 --> 00:49:55,733
Speaker 8: But they did it all around the world. Humans did it, Viking,

997
00:49:56,013 --> 00:49:57,373
Speaker 8: the Aztecs. Crazy.

998
00:49:57,613 --> 00:50:01,373
Speaker 2: So, for members of our audience who don't know how

999
00:50:01,493 --> 00:50:04,013
Speaker 2: the tragedy of Hamlet works, can you just explain to

1000
00:50:04,093 --> 00:50:06,173
Speaker 2: us the broad concept.

1001
00:50:07,973 --> 00:50:09,853
Speaker 3: How it works, how I'm performing it, or how the

1002
00:50:09,853 --> 00:50:13,053
Speaker 3: story works. Oh, performing it's just it's a solo performance.

1003
00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:15,413
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people around. If you know your theater.

1004
00:50:15,493 --> 00:50:18,133
Speaker 3: A lot of people now doing solo performances all around

1005
00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:21,573
Speaker 3: the world and they're doing very well by it. So

1006
00:50:21,693 --> 00:50:24,573
Speaker 3: it's you bring your imagination to If you think about it,

1007
00:50:24,533 --> 00:50:27,013
Speaker 3: you go to a watch a film, you bring very little.

1008
00:50:27,053 --> 00:50:30,093
Speaker 3: You don't need much imagination. It's right there from viscerally

1009
00:50:30,133 --> 00:50:34,053
Speaker 3: happening bombed through the screen to your eyeballs and your

1010
00:50:34,093 --> 00:50:38,253
Speaker 3: ears and all your all your senses. But if you

1011
00:50:38,253 --> 00:50:40,093
Speaker 3: think about theater, you have to bring about thirty percent

1012
00:50:40,133 --> 00:50:43,133
Speaker 3: imagination because you are in a building, in a theater

1013
00:50:43,213 --> 00:50:45,933
Speaker 3: and there's people moving around. They're really there, and it's

1014
00:50:45,973 --> 00:50:47,733
Speaker 3: just a little bit more with mine because it's a

1015
00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:51,613
Speaker 3: solo performance. But it does mean that you get to concentrate,

1016
00:50:51,653 --> 00:50:54,693
Speaker 3: You get to see very clearly the text, the beauty

1017
00:50:54,733 --> 00:50:57,613
Speaker 3: of the poetry, the characters into play, and we work

1018
00:50:57,773 --> 00:51:01,813
Speaker 3: very hard on moving the juxtaposition and me moving between

1019
00:51:01,813 --> 00:51:05,453
Speaker 3: different characters. That's a simple change. These are not characatures.

1020
00:51:05,533 --> 00:51:08,413
Speaker 3: These are characters. But you know, we've sold seventy five

1021
00:51:08,413 --> 00:51:11,853
Speaker 3: thousand tickets. Now we're coming up to two hundred and

1022
00:51:11,853 --> 00:51:16,013
Speaker 3: fiftieth performance. We just got the La Times saying awesome

1023
00:51:16,053 --> 00:51:18,613
Speaker 3: to witness you know, it's the reviews are coming like crazy,

1024
00:51:18,973 --> 00:51:21,053
Speaker 3: and so not everyone gets this. Some people say, oh,

1025
00:51:21,093 --> 00:51:22,653
Speaker 3: you can't do it like this, You're not allowed to

1026
00:51:23,253 --> 00:51:24,253
Speaker 3: don't change lanes.

1027
00:51:24,293 --> 00:51:25,773
Speaker 8: That's the thing that comes up. You know, you weren't

1028
00:51:25,773 --> 00:51:28,373
Speaker 8: doing comedy, now you're doing Shakespeare. How dare you?

1029
00:51:28,453 --> 00:51:30,973
Speaker 3: But no, it's the vast majority of people saying this

1030
00:51:31,053 --> 00:51:33,293
Speaker 3: is this is visceral. And I'm sure of one thing

1031
00:51:33,573 --> 00:51:35,973
Speaker 3: that when Shakespeare wrote His Place, he wanted people to

1032
00:51:36,013 --> 00:51:38,893
Speaker 3: be to be moved by it, to love, to cry,

1033
00:51:39,213 --> 00:51:42,773
Speaker 3: to have horror, things of horror, all those things, viscerally

1034
00:51:42,813 --> 00:51:45,373
Speaker 3: have those things. He did not want the audience to go, oh,

1035
00:51:45,413 --> 00:51:46,413
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's talking about.

1036
00:51:46,413 --> 00:51:47,493
Speaker 8: Oh, can we look like that? Please?

1037
00:51:47,573 --> 00:51:47,733
Speaker 17: Oh?

1038
00:51:47,773 --> 00:51:50,533
Speaker 3: Does anyone have an ard? And all this different? The

1039
00:51:51,013 --> 00:51:53,053
Speaker 3: work's in Shakespeare? Can we google it? Oh, it doesn't

1040
00:51:53,053 --> 00:51:54,133
Speaker 3: exist another four hundred years?

1041
00:51:54,173 --> 00:51:55,573
Speaker 8: All right. I'm sure.

1042
00:51:55,853 --> 00:51:57,693
Speaker 3: I feel absolutely sure in my bones that there's no

1043
00:51:57,733 --> 00:52:00,533
Speaker 3: way that any playwright worth his song, any writer wants

1044
00:52:00,533 --> 00:52:01,573
Speaker 3: people to go, oh.

1045
00:52:01,573 --> 00:52:02,733
Speaker 8: Not sure what that's all about.

1046
00:52:03,173 --> 00:52:05,893
Speaker 3: I better go and get a dictionary and look everything up,

1047
00:52:05,933 --> 00:52:07,813
Speaker 3: because and that's what we do. The beauty of the

1048
00:52:07,853 --> 00:52:10,493
Speaker 3: poetry is still there we've micro adjusted certain things. There

1049
00:52:10,493 --> 00:52:14,173
Speaker 3: are three different versions of Hamlet, first quarter, second quarter,

1050
00:52:14,213 --> 00:52:17,293
Speaker 3: and the first folio, and you have to make your adaptation.

1051
00:52:17,653 --> 00:52:19,493
Speaker 3: I think the four and a half hour version was

1052
00:52:20,053 --> 00:52:22,533
Speaker 3: the director's cut. I think that was Shakespeare saying, actually,

1053
00:52:22,533 --> 00:52:24,173
Speaker 3: this is I'm going to add stuff to this and

1054
00:52:24,173 --> 00:52:26,093
Speaker 3: put that in. But he never signed off on any version.

1055
00:52:26,293 --> 00:52:28,373
Speaker 3: He never said this is the defensive version, which is.

1056
00:52:28,333 --> 00:52:30,133
Speaker 8: Very odd of him. I don't know why.

1057
00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:31,933
Speaker 3: With all that, You've got to have a big, strong,

1058
00:52:31,973 --> 00:52:34,093
Speaker 3: eager to write all that stuff and then.

1059
00:52:34,013 --> 00:52:35,453
Speaker 8: To just say I'll put it out if you want.

1060
00:52:35,453 --> 00:52:37,413
Speaker 8: I don't care. It's just so odd.

1061
00:52:37,733 --> 00:52:40,933
Speaker 3: Whereas Ben Johnson, his compatriot good made of his also

1062
00:52:40,933 --> 00:52:43,133
Speaker 3: didn't go to university like Shakespeare, must have had the

1063
00:52:43,173 --> 00:52:45,733
Speaker 3: similar kind of fighting spirit to get through amongst all

1064
00:52:45,733 --> 00:52:49,373
Speaker 3: these university boys back in the sixteen hundreds, and he

1065
00:52:49,413 --> 00:52:52,013
Speaker 3: published all his stuff. So why did Shakespeare not? It

1066
00:52:52,053 --> 00:52:54,053
Speaker 3: doesn't really make sense. So you just take the play.

1067
00:52:54,293 --> 00:52:57,013
Speaker 3: It's a legend. There's the Hamlet story, which is that

1068
00:52:57,053 --> 00:52:59,413
Speaker 3: he wrote it about his son, but his son died.

1069
00:52:59,453 --> 00:53:01,373
Speaker 3: We think of the plague, and we're not sure. And

1070
00:53:01,733 --> 00:53:03,933
Speaker 3: there's a wonderful in the film is a wonderful imagination

1071
00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:07,493
Speaker 3: of what could have happened. But really the story is

1072
00:53:07,493 --> 00:53:10,493
Speaker 3: based on Amleth, who is Saxo grammatic As was a

1073
00:53:10,733 --> 00:53:13,453
Speaker 3: Danish historian wrote about this guy. It's allegedly story, not

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Speaker 3: a myth, so it's based on truth. And he did

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Speaker 3: go to England. He did marry there, which doesn't happen

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Speaker 3: to play. He did fight a battle there, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: have to play. His uncle did kill his father, which

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Speaker 3: is true to the play. And so Shakespeare would grab

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Speaker 3: stories that already exist. Only three of his plays were original,

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Speaker 3: so this is a version of a story that already exists,

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Speaker 3: and he reinterpreted it and put it on.

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Speaker 8: So what you come is.

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Speaker 3: You get this, this play that is just in such

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Speaker 3: a beautiful position. And if you buy both tickets, you'll

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00:53:41,373 --> 00:53:44,493
Speaker 3: see surreal comedy a bit like the early works of Shakespeare,

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Speaker 3: and then you'll come and see drama and tragedy like the.

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Speaker 8: Later works of Shakespeare. That's my challenge to you good

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Speaker 8: people of New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sounds, it sounds amazing, and we're

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Speaker 2: just so delighted that you aren't. Steve Farsley staying in

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Speaker 2: a lane. I feel like this is the thing that

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Speaker 2: has defined much of your life, is that you have

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Speaker 2: refused any kind of pigeonholing in that.

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Speaker 3: And yes, well you know, as soon as you come

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Speaker 3: out as trans you know, in nineteen eighty five, so

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Speaker 3: that's over forty years, forty years anniversary. This Jane the

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Speaker 3: Janitor's just passed and you're up there saying, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: society says things are like this, or a business industry

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Speaker 3: says it's like this, and maybe it's not.

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Speaker 8: Maybe you need to just move things.

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Speaker 3: And then once you get into you know, I was,

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Speaker 3: I was a sketch performer like Pike, and they owe

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00:54:31,293 --> 00:54:33,733
Speaker 3: my comedy guards and they're a street performer because I

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00:54:33,773 --> 00:54:35,853
Speaker 3: couldn't work out how to start my career and now

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00:54:35,933 --> 00:54:38,813
Speaker 3: four years of that that that taught me how to

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00:54:38,853 --> 00:54:41,493
Speaker 3: do what we are doing this in Hamlet, because this

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Speaker 3: is a performance two people admitting that they're there, admitting

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Speaker 3: them there. I'm talking to them with all my thirty

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00:54:47,413 --> 00:54:50,653
Speaker 3: five years of stand up experience as opposed to add

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00:54:50,733 --> 00:54:53,653
Speaker 3: a lot of I think actors probably more used to

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00:54:54,213 --> 00:54:57,133
Speaker 3: performing at people where they perform out, but this is too.

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Speaker 3: I know you're there, you know, I'm here and I'm

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00:54:59,293 --> 00:55:01,173
Speaker 3: portraying these characters and what is this?

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Speaker 8: I see them as a Greek chorus.

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Speaker 3: Of of my mind, of Hamlet's mind, and and so

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00:55:06,853 --> 00:55:09,853
Speaker 3: it's just a beautiful thing to do and to be

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00:55:09,893 --> 00:55:11,813
Speaker 3: out there doing it. And it is a dramatic version

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00:55:11,813 --> 00:55:14,013
Speaker 3: of Hamlet and not a comedic. But some people think

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00:55:14,053 --> 00:55:15,773
Speaker 3: it might be a comedicy it is not. There's some

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Speaker 3: comedy characters in a certain comic elements. The Grave Diggercine

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Speaker 3: is very comic, but it's the rest of it is

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Speaker 3: the story of a family tearing itself apart, in a country,

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Speaker 3: tearing itself apart, in this world where some of us

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00:55:29,333 --> 00:55:31,093
Speaker 3: are tearing ourselves apart, but the rest of us are

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Speaker 3: fighting on and and being positive and doing positive things. So,

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Speaker 3: as a transit woman touring the world, I think it's

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Speaker 3: a good time to tour the world and say, let's

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Speaker 3: forge on kids, the rest of us, let's keep forging on,

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Speaker 3: keep positive.

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Speaker 8: This time will past. We will prevail.

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Speaker 2: On their hopeful message. Honestly, thank you so much. We

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00:55:49,813 --> 00:55:51,493
Speaker 2: could just sit here and listen to you all day.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we had delight that you're bringing both sides

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Speaker 2: to New zeal And. All the very best and we'll

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Speaker 2: see you soon.

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Speaker 8: Thank you very much. Cheers.

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Speaker 2: There is Susie Dye is Hard. Tickets that It's remixed

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Speaker 2: tour in the one person performance of Hair are now

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Speaker 2: available at eddieizard dot com. We'll have all the details

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Speaker 2: up on the News Talks EDB website as well. Now

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00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:16,373
Speaker 2: before ten o'clock, Rue climb Pass has been trapping pests

1142
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Speaker 2: for decades, but for the first time ever, he reckon

1143
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Speaker 2: he's got he's got a breakthrough tip when it comes

1144
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Speaker 2: to choosing the right bait for pests at your place,

1145
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Speaker 2: so he's going to share that with us before eleven o'clock.

1146
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Speaker 2: As well as that open AI, the company behind chat gpt,

1147
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Speaker 2: has just announced huge changes, so our textbooks here to

1148
00:56:37,093 --> 00:56:38,693
Speaker 2: talk us through what they're going to mean for you.

1149
00:56:38,813 --> 00:56:41,133
Speaker 2: If you like using chat gpt from time to time,

1150
00:56:41,213 --> 00:56:43,933
Speaker 2: or if you think that AI might be about to

1151
00:56:43,973 --> 00:56:45,893
Speaker 2: take over the world. He's going to give us the

1152
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Speaker 2: very latest on that. Next up though your screen time

1153
00:56:48,573 --> 00:56:51,093
Speaker 2: picks for shows to watch your stream from your place

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00:56:51,133 --> 00:56:53,693
Speaker 2: this weekend. It's twenty four past ten on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 5: Snid your weekend off the right way Saturday Morning with

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00:56:59,853 --> 00:57:01,533
Speaker 5: Jack dam us TALKSV.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your messages.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love Susie as an Susie. Eddie is art

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00:57:08,293 --> 00:57:11,893
Speaker 2: proudly living her truth. The world can learn so much

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00:57:11,933 --> 00:57:15,733
Speaker 2: from her attitude. Thank you, Kenny ninety ninety two. If

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Speaker 2: you want to send us me this morning, Cal Pushman

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00:57:18,013 --> 00:57:20,373
Speaker 2: is here with this week's screen time picks, gid A

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Speaker 2: Carl Jack Helou. So we have two shows this morning

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00:57:23,413 --> 00:57:27,133
Speaker 2: on on Netflix. The first, though, is streaming on Prime Video.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about bait. Yes.

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00:57:29,893 --> 00:57:32,493
Speaker 18: Ever since the Daniel Craig announced he was hanging up

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00:57:32,493 --> 00:57:34,693
Speaker 18: his license to kill, the rumor mill has sort of

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00:57:34,693 --> 00:57:38,253
Speaker 18: been going over time speculating which actor would step into

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00:57:38,253 --> 00:57:41,853
Speaker 18: his shoes to become Bond James Bond. Bate takes that

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00:57:41,933 --> 00:57:44,293
Speaker 18: idea and it bases a whole show around it, which

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00:57:44,533 --> 00:57:47,933
Speaker 18: is a pretty cool thing to do. It was created

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Speaker 18: co written in stars Riz Ahmed, who you might know

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00:57:51,413 --> 00:57:55,293
Speaker 18: from the brilliant crime series The Night Of. It also

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00:57:55,333 --> 00:57:57,773
Speaker 18: has been in loads of movies, Star Wars Rogue one

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00:57:57,893 --> 00:58:02,133
Speaker 18: things like that. He he stars as a struggling British

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Speaker 18: Pakistani actor who blows his audition for the coveted part,

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Speaker 18: but then on his way out manages the manipulator paparazzi

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Speaker 18: into getting a snap of them leaving the secretive auditions.

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00:58:11,853 --> 00:58:14,413
Speaker 18: This in turn fuels tabloid room is that he's still

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00:58:14,493 --> 00:58:17,573
Speaker 18: in the running for the part even though he had

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00:58:17,613 --> 00:58:22,653
Speaker 18: completely blown it. His ploy works and he finds himself

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00:58:22,773 --> 00:58:26,933
Speaker 18: smack bang in the middle of tabloid debate about whether

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00:58:27,013 --> 00:58:30,533
Speaker 18: he should get the part and that whole Can James

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Speaker 18: Bond not be a white man? Could it be a

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00:58:33,573 --> 00:58:37,093
Speaker 18: brown Pakistani actor? And the show sort of follows his

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00:58:37,173 --> 00:58:39,893
Speaker 18: journey to not blow his chances again, which is something

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00:58:39,893 --> 00:58:44,133
Speaker 18: he seems almost destined to do, while also processing his

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00:58:44,733 --> 00:58:49,013
Speaker 18: questions of cultural identity and whether he the reasons why

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00:58:49,053 --> 00:58:52,453
Speaker 18: he wants that role so bad. So as you can

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00:58:52,493 --> 00:58:55,333
Speaker 18: see that, the show is sort of follows in that

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00:58:55,373 --> 00:58:59,693
Speaker 18: lineage of insider baseball shows about TV and Hollywood.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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00:58:59,973 --> 00:59:02,293
Speaker 18: Seth Rogan's The Studio from last year was one of

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Speaker 18: my picks of twenty twenty five is absolutely brilliant. We

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00:59:05,413 --> 00:59:08,653
Speaker 18: spoke about Marvel's recent wonder Man, which is similarly going

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00:59:08,693 --> 00:59:13,933
Speaker 18: behind the scenes of Hollywood TV and baits it companably

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00:59:14,133 --> 00:59:18,053
Speaker 18: amongst those sort of shows, blends that meta commentary with

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Speaker 18: family drama, cultural concerns, and also a wild surrealistic side

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00:59:22,613 --> 00:59:26,013
Speaker 18: which I really love. You get Bollywood send ups in

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00:59:26,013 --> 00:59:30,253
Speaker 18: the middle of serious scenes. One episode has Patrick Stewart

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00:59:30,453 --> 00:59:34,653
Speaker 18: Captain Picard voicing a frozen pigs head for the whole episode,

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Speaker 18: So there's a lot going on within it's half our

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00:59:37,853 --> 00:59:42,573
Speaker 18: run time, and it explores his British Pakistani Muslim culture

1205
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Speaker 18: as well as everything else going on, so it's very

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00:59:45,773 --> 00:59:47,733
Speaker 18: very good. Of course, it does raise the question of

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Speaker 18: who should be the next James Bonds?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when is the next? Do you know when the

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00:59:52,253 --> 00:59:54,013
Speaker 2: next James Bond film was? First?

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Speaker 14: Every Man?

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Speaker 18: Everything is still just ticking along, but nothing has been announced.

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Speaker 2: No clue when they take their time, don't they. It's

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Speaker 2: probably a very smart thing, because the temptation would be

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Speaker 2: just to release a Bond film every year too, you know,

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01:00:06,893 --> 01:00:08,933
Speaker 2: and just absolutely cash in on the franchise. But by

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01:00:08,933 --> 01:00:11,573
Speaker 2: building up anticipation, by having it stretched out over a

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Speaker 2: longer period of time, they probably maintain the value of

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Speaker 2: the brand a whole lot better.

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Speaker 18: Everyone now we will want to see the next pot

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Speaker 18: sort of the Star Wars effect would be burnt out

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Speaker 18: on it totally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have taken a long time.

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Speaker 18: Like if you remember, Idris Alba was a strong contender

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Speaker 18: for a while there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's aged.

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Speaker 18: He's aged out of the part now because it's taken

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Speaker 18: him so long.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, not rushing, I saw mine. Okay,

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Speaker 2: very good. That sounds that's what an interesting premise for

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01:00:39,533 --> 01:00:42,293
Speaker 2: a show. So that's baked. It's on Prime Video. Next

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Speaker 2: up streaming on Netflix Joe Nisbo's Detective Whole.

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Speaker 18: Yes, well I'll quit you there. It's HARDI hula Norwegian

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01:00:51,013 --> 01:00:54,453
Speaker 18: pronunciation harry hole. I also made that mistake until I

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Speaker 18: researched it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well I might just leave them to nail

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Speaker 2: that pronunciation.

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Speaker 18: This is a sort of similar to Scarpitta, which we

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Speaker 18: talked about last week. This is a another crime thriller

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01:01:07,173 --> 01:01:11,053
Speaker 18: series based on novels, this time on Unizber's Gritty crime series,

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Speaker 18: of which there are thirteen books and counting. What makes

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Speaker 18: this one different from Scarpetta is that he was actively

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Speaker 18: involved in the show. He created it, wrote it, and

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Speaker 18: show ran it, so it makes it incredibly faithful to

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01:01:27,493 --> 01:01:29,653
Speaker 18: his vision of what the books and what a TV

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01:01:29,733 --> 01:01:32,013
Speaker 18: series based on his books should be. The show is

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Speaker 18: based on the fifth one in the series, which is

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01:01:33,813 --> 01:01:37,973
Speaker 18: the devil's star this season serial killer terrorizing Oslo and

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01:01:38,053 --> 01:01:41,733
Speaker 18: leaving pentagrim shaped red diamonds at the crime scenes, which

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01:01:42,133 --> 01:01:45,013
Speaker 18: seems like an expensive calling card to me, But that's

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01:01:45,253 --> 01:01:49,653
Speaker 18: what our enigmatic serial killer is doing here. Stop me

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01:01:49,693 --> 01:01:51,453
Speaker 18: if you've heard this one before. But Hardy huere A

1252
01:01:51,493 --> 01:01:53,973
Speaker 18: is a grumpy investigator who plays by his own rules

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Speaker 18: and battles personal demons. So that's the sort of template

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Speaker 18: for these kind of shows, and who he has case.

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Speaker 18: He has guilt over the death of his partner five

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Speaker 18: years ago and is also battling some good old fashioned alcoholism.

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Speaker 18: The series is what's affectionately being dubbed Nordic noir, which

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Speaker 18: is sort of characterized by stark, bleak esthetic and gritty

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Speaker 18: realistic violence, and the show is quite good for that.

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Speaker 18: I made the terrible mistake of watching the first episode

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Speaker 18: with overdubs. It is actually a Norwegian show. I didn't

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01:02:25,413 --> 01:02:27,613
Speaker 18: realize that it was done. I just thought, why is

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01:02:27,613 --> 01:02:30,093
Speaker 18: this so corny? What's going on? And then I sort

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01:02:30,093 --> 01:02:32,333
Speaker 18: of started to notice that the voices weren't matching up

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01:02:32,333 --> 01:02:34,813
Speaker 18: with what was going on, and it really pulled me

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01:02:34,853 --> 01:02:36,373
Speaker 18: out of it. I was like, this is not good.

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Speaker 18: Swapping to subtitles with the proper Norwegian vocals voices total

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Speaker 18: game changer, huge difference, and I got got drawn in

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01:02:47,733 --> 01:02:51,213
Speaker 18: after I fixed my own user era there. So there's

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Speaker 18: a bit of a pro tip if you like gritty,

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01:02:54,253 --> 01:02:58,853
Speaker 18: dark crime thrillers, make sure you have subtitles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, very good. That sounds like me very much.

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Speaker 2: So Joan bids do we say Joan's Most Detective Holly?

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01:03:05,413 --> 01:03:06,053
Speaker 2: Is that what we said?

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Speaker 18: We say?

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01:03:07,013 --> 01:03:13,253
Speaker 2: You this bars? Okay, Harry, Harry, Okay, that's gonna be Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's hold those off the tongue, doesn't it. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: I might Cultural Corner, Yeah exactly. Yeah, we we do

1279
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Speaker 2: variety here on Saturday mornings. If nothing more, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Carl. We'll make sure the details for both

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01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:26,733
Speaker 2: of those shows are up on the News Talks website.

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01:03:26,773 --> 01:03:29,013
Speaker 2: Bait is on Prime Video. I'm just gonna say, Joni's

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Speaker 2: Bow's Detective Whole for Now is on Netflix. I reckon

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Speaker 2: if you search Joni's Bow that should come right up.

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Speaker 2: Cautiously optimistic that Netflix has nailed a search function there,

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Speaker 2: twenty six to eleven on News Talks, he'd be.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News Talks.

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Speaker 6: Edb ah so good, Keep it up, lit Me, keep

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Speaker 6: it up.

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Speaker 2: Robin changed the shape of pop music. She's best known

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Speaker 2: for bringing raw emotion to the dance floor with tracks

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Speaker 2: like this Dancing on My Own in sixteen years from

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Speaker 2: her magnum Opus Body Talk album, her influence still looms

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Speaker 2: large in the sounds of today's biggest pop stars, Charlie

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Speaker 2: XCX and Chapel Rome. Yesterday, Robin released her ninth album.

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Speaker 2: The album is called sex Estential. It is the Swedish

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Speaker 2: powerhouse's first album release in eight years, and it has

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Speaker 2: been getting some very very good early reviews. But our

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Speaker 2: music reviewer has been listening. Yep, he's got up. He's

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Speaker 2: been counting down the days to Robin's sex Essential. He's

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Speaker 2: handless and he's going to join us before midday today

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Speaker 2: to give us his thoughts on the album as a whole,

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Speaker 2: and we'll make sure we save a bit of time

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Speaker 2: to play you a couple of tracks. I love Robins.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait for this. Twenty two to eleven. Our

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Speaker 2: textbirds are next, Our News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: The Headlines and the Hard questions.

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Speaker 4: It's the Mic Hosking.

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Speaker 19: Breakfast to twelve to seventeen year old's reader Myocaditis. What

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Speaker 19: we do know to be true is Hipkins did get

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Speaker 19: the advice. Simeon Brown's a health minister and he's with us.

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Speaker 20: It's very clear that Chris Hopkins knew about these concerns.

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Speaker 20: He was provided advice in late December twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 20: And when they were provided advice, they didn't ask any

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Speaker 20: questions or do anything about it. And the reality is

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Speaker 20: he came on your show said he didn't know.

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Speaker 2: He's got questions he needs to answer.

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Speaker 19: So he was hiding. But the COVID inquiry missed it.

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Speaker 19: The COVID inquiry says they claim they didn't see it,

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Speaker 19: didn't know, and they accepted that.

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Speaker 20: The COVID inquiry found that the Ministry of Health didn't

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Speaker 20: provide the information clearly enough, and I think that's an

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Speaker 20: absolute finding.

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Speaker 19: Back Monday from six am, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: Rain Drivers, Sport, sv News Talk ZB open Ai.

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Speaker 2: The company behind GPT is undergoing a dramatic strategy shift,

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Speaker 2: so consumers, you and me are no longer the focus

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Speaker 2: has Texpert Paul Steinehouse is here with the details, Paul,

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Speaker 2: what's happening. They've decided that actually, yeah, you and I

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Speaker 2: are on the main focus.

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Speaker 21: Well, unless we've got some money behind us. They think, Jack,

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Speaker 21: that's what they really want there. If you work, if

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Speaker 21: you work in a business, if you work doing coding

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Speaker 21: and development, that's who they want. They are sort of,

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Speaker 21: I think, having their lunch eaten by Anthropic with their

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Speaker 21: Clawed code. They have just been shipping like crazy. They've

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Speaker 21: put so many features out with this Clawed code, and

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Speaker 21: then they've also developed another tool called Cowork, which is

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Speaker 21: effectively basically a more friendly version of claud Code, but

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Speaker 21: it can do sort of more general business type things,

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Speaker 21: you know, less develop a focus than more about you know.

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Speaker 21: It can do some legal things, and it can do

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Speaker 21: some form filling, and it can do it's it's pretty impressive,

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Speaker 21: let me just say what it can do. But it

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Speaker 21: seems that open Aye is seeing what's happening over here

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Speaker 21: and seeing that Claude and Aanthropists is getting this kind

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Speaker 21: of reputation, getting this business, and so they just dramatically

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Speaker 21: changing things. So they launched this feature with a whole

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Speaker 21: lot of fan fear, where you could use inside of

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Speaker 21: chat GPT this thing they called instant Checkout, so you

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Speaker 21: could effectively shop inside of chat GPT. Gone, that's on

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Speaker 21: the cutting room floor. They talked as well about potentially

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Speaker 21: doing a erotic or adults kind of mode. Nope, that's

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Speaker 21: gone too. They kept pushing launch date. That's apparently because

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Speaker 21: there's some kind of talk in pressure both internally and

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Speaker 21: externally about whether or not they should even have been

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Speaker 21: doing that. But still a pretty dramatic shift after they

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Speaker 21: came out and said they were going to And then

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Speaker 21: I think the biggest one was, again with so much

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Speaker 21: fan fear, they launched this app called Sora, which effectively

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Speaker 21: let you dream about sequences and say, hey, create this video,

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Speaker 21: and it will create it for you in front of

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Speaker 21: your eye. And it was pretty incredible. That's disappearing now too.

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Speaker 21: And what's crazy about the Saurer one is that Disney,

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Speaker 21: if you remember, Disney signed up yeah to Hollywood's surprise,

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Speaker 21: and said, you guys can license our characters to be

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Speaker 21: inside of this video and image generation tool that is Sourer. Well,

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Speaker 21: Sora is now shutting down, that deal has been scrapped,

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Speaker 21: and open Ai just seems to be chasing you at work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting how quickly thinks have changed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: being the kind of you know, being the consumer facing

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Speaker 2: product with which most people started interacting with generative AI

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Speaker 2: for the first time. It was only a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, and yet they've completely changed this strategy. So

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Speaker 2: it is fascinating to imagine where things might end up

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Speaker 2: very soon, you know. And you know, I've got to say,

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Speaker 2: as someone who now pays for their personal generative AI service,

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Speaker 2: I go with CORD. So yeah, very intriguing. Thank you, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Paul Steinhouse text it in a couple of minutes on

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Speaker 2: New zeal there. But I'm going to give you sufficient warning.

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Speaker 2: Well you're going to have a non disgusting talk. I

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Speaker 2: promise We're going to make it as non discussing as

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Speaker 2: possible with our resident GP about ingrown toenails and how

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Speaker 2: best to avoid them. Sixteen to eleven.

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Speaker 5: No better way to kick off your weekend then with

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Speaker 5: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: So you know I live out of Florida. Is that

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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods has been charged with a DUI driving under

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Speaker 2: the influence for his involvement in a crash this morning.

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Speaker 2: He apparently passed a breath lyzer test, but then refused

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Speaker 2: to do a U analysis test once he arrived at

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Speaker 2: the police station. So he's been charged with that. We'll

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Speaker 2: have more details for you in the news very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's fourteen to eleven. Doctor Brian Betty is

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Speaker 2: here talking ingrown toenails this morning. You get all the

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Speaker 2: glamorous subjects. Bryan, what actually are in grown toenails? How

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Speaker 2: do we recognize them?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: Look, club, look, I'm really really common. We see them

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Speaker 22: all the time and they typically occur when the corner

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Speaker 22: of the side of the toenail, especially the large tone,

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01:10:12,053 --> 01:10:16,093
Speaker 22: grows into the surrounding skin. So this occurs in the

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01:10:16,093 --> 01:10:19,293
Speaker 22: big toenail, often on the outside of the toenail, and

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Speaker 22: we start to sort of see pain along the edge

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Speaker 22: of the toenail. People come in and sort of say, oh,

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Speaker 22: it's really painful. Starts to get a bit red at

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Speaker 22: the edge of the toenail. There's a bit of swelling

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Speaker 22: that starts to occur, and it's very very tender to touch,

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Speaker 22: so people say, oh, touch and it's really really sore.

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Speaker 22: So very very common, and it's where this nail starts

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Speaker 22: to grow under the skin.

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Speaker 4: And cause a problem.

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Speaker 2: What actually causes them, Look.

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Speaker 22: The commonest thing is badly cut toenails. So if they

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Speaker 22: are cut too short or the edges around the nail

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Speaker 22: can start to grow under the skin. So that's probably

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Speaker 22: the commonest thing we see. Now, very tight fitting footwear

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Speaker 22: starts to put pressure on the nail and curve the

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Speaker 22: nail under, which can make it grow under the skin

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01:11:04,093 --> 01:11:06,253
Speaker 22: or actually injuring the nail. So if you stub your

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01:11:06,493 --> 01:11:09,533
Speaker 22: hoe or if you're a runner and there's recurrent pressure

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Speaker 22: or trauma on the side of the nail, that can

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Speaker 22: actually set you up to do it more uncommon causes

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Speaker 22: genetics sometimes cause rounded toenails, and actually occasionally medication, so

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Speaker 22: medication called isotrenin that we use to treat acne can

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Speaker 22: actually set up conditions for ingrown toenails to occur. So, yeah,

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Speaker 22: who would have guessed happens?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: How do you treat them?

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Speaker 22: Look, if they're very early, then just warm salt water

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01:11:36,653 --> 01:11:39,893
Speaker 22: baths for about Soaking the feet in salt water for

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01:11:39,933 --> 01:11:43,893
Speaker 22: about well fifteen twenty minutes softens the skin and softens

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Speaker 22: the nail. Then what you can do is just lift

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Speaker 22: the edge of the nail and pop a little bit

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Speaker 22: of cotton wool under it, and it allows the nail

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Speaker 22: to grow out. It's a really really easy thing that

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Speaker 22: you can actually do and obviously wear more comfortable footwear now. Occasionally,

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Speaker 22: because the skin is broken, bacteria get down under the

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Speaker 22: skin and you can get an infection, so antibiotics become required.

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Speaker 22: And where those simple measures don't work, you actually need

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Speaker 22: a simple procedure done under local anesthetic called nail the vulsion.

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Speaker 22: That's where we cut away the side of the nail,

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Speaker 22: put some chemical on it to stop it growing back,

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Speaker 22: and it cures the problems.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, that's where you end up. If it

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Speaker 4: continues to be a problem.

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Speaker 2: Can you prevent them?

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Speaker 8: Look, you can.

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Speaker 22: The big thing is cutting your nails, So allow the

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Speaker 22: nails to grow out a bit and cut them square

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Speaker 22: and not round, and that tends to reduce the chances

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01:12:37,133 --> 01:12:41,093
Speaker 22: of it happening. Obviously, avoid tight shoes as we've talked about,

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01:12:41,093 --> 01:12:43,973
Speaker 22: because they can put pressure on that nail edge. And look,

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01:12:44,053 --> 01:12:46,573
Speaker 22: keep your feet clean and dry because if we know

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Speaker 22: that your feet are sweaty, it sort of softens the nails.

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01:12:49,253 --> 01:12:51,573
Speaker 22: It allows them to curve over a bit and can

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Speaker 22: actually start to grow under the skin, so some basic

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01:12:54,213 --> 01:12:56,773
Speaker 22: things you can do to try and prevent them happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, hep you Brian, Doctor Brian Betty with us

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Speaker 2: this morning. Right now it is eleven minutes to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Gardening with steel, sharp bottom deals on tools built right.

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Speaker 2: Rude climb past as our men in the garden, Kilda.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 17: How are you all good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Hey, let's let's talk about

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01:13:18,413 --> 01:13:19,773
Speaker 17: catching predators, shall we.

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Speaker 2: Yes, in the in the garden, we're talking about this.

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Speaker 2: It was a popular TV show in the US for

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Speaker 2: a few years, so got slightly dark aspect, but yes,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the garden. I've got my rat trap,

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01:13:31,773 --> 01:13:34,253
Speaker 2: of course, although if you haven't had it out for

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Speaker 2: a few months, I probably need to probably need to

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Speaker 2: revise the rat trap. I'm yet to catch a rat.

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Speaker 17: Oh still, oh my gosh. I'll tell you what what

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Speaker 17: happened the other day. Somebody told me about this lady

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Speaker 17: called Selena Gomez who was a songwriter and singer and

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Speaker 17: actress and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is the first time you'd heard of that was the

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Speaker 2: first time you'd heard of Selena Gomez.

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01:13:57,973 --> 01:13:59,293
Speaker 17: I did not know about her.

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01:13:59,333 --> 01:13:59,653
Speaker 8: At all.

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01:13:59,733 --> 01:14:02,053
Speaker 17: No, I meant to Pete Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, she's I would say, I would say,

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest pop stars on the planet, slash

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Speaker 2: slash actor. Yeah, so that's that's good to know that.

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01:14:12,973 --> 01:14:15,333
Speaker 2: It's good that we know we're going to you for

1489
01:14:15,373 --> 01:14:17,613
Speaker 2: your expertise in a certain area and not in others.

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01:14:17,773 --> 01:14:18,853
Speaker 2: That's that's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, you're absolutely right, and I actually not that worried

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01:14:23,413 --> 01:14:26,773
Speaker 17: about that. But what I do realize she's quite famous,

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Speaker 17: and that she's also doing a lot of marketing. Like

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Speaker 17: she made some chocolate cookies that featured things like cinnamon

1495
01:14:34,373 --> 01:14:36,813
Speaker 17: and all sorts of sweet stuff, and she called it

1496
01:14:36,853 --> 01:14:39,173
Speaker 17: an audio it was called and you can buy that.

1497
01:14:39,213 --> 01:14:41,173
Speaker 17: You can buy it at all the shops.

1498
01:14:41,173 --> 01:14:43,293
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I think I might have come across one

1499
01:14:43,293 --> 01:14:45,573
Speaker 2: of those once or twice as well. Right, So you've

1500
01:14:45,613 --> 01:14:48,053
Speaker 2: you learned about it, anymies, And you've learned about oreos?

1501
01:14:49,253 --> 01:14:51,533
Speaker 17: Have you tried that stuff? It's sweet?

1502
01:14:51,613 --> 01:14:54,773
Speaker 2: Man, I've got a famous sweet tooth, so I am

1503
01:14:54,853 --> 01:14:56,933
Speaker 2: rather partial to an oreo from time to time.

1504
01:14:57,013 --> 01:14:57,213
Speaker 17: Rude.

1505
01:14:57,693 --> 01:14:59,813
Speaker 14: Anyway, somebody told.

1506
01:14:59,573 --> 01:15:01,533
Speaker 17: Me that if you use that cinnamon and all the

1507
01:15:01,573 --> 01:15:03,653
Speaker 17: sweet stuff off an oreo and you put it in

1508
01:15:03,693 --> 01:15:04,293
Speaker 17: a trap.

1509
01:15:05,733 --> 01:15:09,813
Speaker 2: Possums love it really interesting.

1510
01:15:10,813 --> 01:15:13,253
Speaker 17: A lot of people had no idea about it, so

1511
01:15:13,773 --> 01:15:16,053
Speaker 17: I thought, if that's the case, I want to try

1512
01:15:16,053 --> 01:15:18,253
Speaker 17: this for myself because as you know, as you well know,

1513
01:15:18,413 --> 01:15:20,293
Speaker 17: I know how to trap, but I don't know about

1514
01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:23,653
Speaker 17: Selena gome. So I had to go with it. And

1515
01:15:23,733 --> 01:15:27,973
Speaker 17: a local Cantabriion host is a biologist, Graham Heckling, had

1516
01:15:28,013 --> 01:15:30,413
Speaker 17: to go with it. He actually started all this off

1517
01:15:30,813 --> 01:15:33,853
Speaker 17: not that long ago. So I started off with an

1518
01:15:33,933 --> 01:15:37,253
Speaker 17: apple and a bit, a few audios and another good

1519
01:15:37,293 --> 01:15:40,773
Speaker 17: possums attractors such as flower you know, self raising flower

1520
01:15:40,813 --> 01:15:44,813
Speaker 17: and cinnamon, and I chucked it on the night to

1521
01:15:44,893 --> 01:15:47,813
Speaker 17: see if any possums would get anything. I was to

1522
01:15:47,853 --> 01:15:51,933
Speaker 17: be quite, wasn't it game on it because I hadn't

1523
01:15:51,973 --> 01:15:54,693
Speaker 17: seen any possums for five months or so? So I

1524
01:15:54,773 --> 01:15:58,533
Speaker 17: left it anyway. Next morning, bingo.

1525
01:15:58,373 --> 01:16:02,573
Speaker 2: Wow, really that easy, because yeah, what.

1526
01:16:02,533 --> 01:16:03,013
Speaker 8: Do you get?

1527
01:16:03,613 --> 01:16:05,733
Speaker 2: A whole hedgehog?

1528
01:16:06,693 --> 01:16:09,773
Speaker 17: And the second second night a second.

1529
01:16:09,493 --> 01:16:13,493
Speaker 2: Eight job, Oh wow, my gosh, the heggs lover yeah,

1530
01:16:13,493 --> 01:16:14,293
Speaker 2: our third night.

1531
01:16:14,213 --> 01:16:18,373
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah. The third night. The third night I got

1532
01:16:18,413 --> 01:16:19,413
Speaker 17: two mice.

1533
01:16:19,773 --> 01:16:21,453
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1534
01:16:21,493 --> 01:16:23,653
Speaker 17: And the fourth night, I got a rat.

1535
01:16:24,053 --> 01:16:24,533
Speaker 2: Wow.

1536
01:16:25,773 --> 01:16:31,573
Speaker 17: Guy, Look, honestly, this stuff attracts all the rotten things

1537
01:16:31,613 --> 01:16:32,893
Speaker 17: that you don't want, you know.

1538
01:16:33,253 --> 01:16:34,013
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1539
01:16:34,853 --> 01:16:38,213
Speaker 17: Yeah, it is amazing. So anybody that is interested in

1540
01:16:38,253 --> 01:16:41,613
Speaker 17: doing some predator free work in the just think of

1541
01:16:41,733 --> 01:16:47,053
Speaker 17: Saloon Selena Gomez and get that stuff. The favor the

1542
01:16:47,093 --> 01:16:51,493
Speaker 17: flavor forward stuff called aureo you get in all these

1543
01:16:51,493 --> 01:16:54,613
Speaker 17: places and it works like a treat. I just thought

1544
01:16:54,693 --> 01:16:56,293
Speaker 17: I'll put that on the violence.

1545
01:16:56,373 --> 01:16:58,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. That's so good because I think a

1546
01:16:58,853 --> 01:17:00,893
Speaker 2: packet of warriors is only about two or three backs,

1547
01:17:00,933 --> 01:17:03,773
Speaker 2: so it's pretty economical. And then'll you know, there's a

1548
01:17:03,773 --> 01:17:05,493
Speaker 2: few oreos in there. If you have a few for you,

1549
01:17:05,573 --> 01:17:07,253
Speaker 2: a few for the rats, view for the hedgehogs and

1550
01:17:07,293 --> 01:17:10,373
Speaker 2: the mice as well, then you'll be away laughing. But

1551
01:17:10,453 --> 01:17:12,133
Speaker 2: that is such a good little tip, do you know.

1552
01:17:12,213 --> 01:17:16,253
Speaker 2: I just I yeah, I've been using things like Natella,

1553
01:17:16,413 --> 01:17:19,453
Speaker 2: which was your previous recommendation for the rat traps. I'm

1554
01:17:19,453 --> 01:17:21,253
Speaker 2: just wondering if there are no rats at my place,

1555
01:17:21,493 --> 01:17:23,413
Speaker 2: But am I am? I dreaming when I think.

1556
01:17:23,213 --> 01:17:26,973
Speaker 17: That maybe maybe, But there's also ways of sitting it.

1557
01:17:27,093 --> 01:17:29,933
Speaker 17: Of course, in places where the rets go past week

1558
01:17:30,013 --> 01:17:33,333
Speaker 17: and let's say through a door or past the door,

1559
01:17:33,413 --> 01:17:36,093
Speaker 17: past a wall, and it's all that sort of stuff.

1560
01:17:36,133 --> 01:17:39,213
Speaker 17: But in this case, Gee, they just came over and

1561
01:17:39,253 --> 01:17:42,853
Speaker 17: it was gone in no time. I was absolutely gobsmack.

1562
01:17:43,893 --> 01:17:45,453
Speaker 2: Okay, that could be the new that's going to be

1563
01:17:45,493 --> 01:17:47,733
Speaker 2: the new, the new test. I reckon at my place,

1564
01:17:48,053 --> 01:17:50,333
Speaker 2: the rat traps going out with Oreos insider us. Hope

1565
01:17:50,333 --> 01:17:51,813
Speaker 2: I don't catch a little child instead.

1566
01:17:52,293 --> 01:17:52,933
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1567
01:17:53,093 --> 01:17:54,813
Speaker 2: Oh my wife she's got a sweet tooth as well.

1568
01:17:54,973 --> 01:18:01,653
Speaker 2: Yeah too sweet. Look, yeah, very good, Thank you sir boy.

1569
01:18:01,893 --> 01:18:02,253
Speaker 17: Welcome.

1570
01:18:02,333 --> 01:18:04,373
Speaker 2: We'll catch you again very soon. Rude climb past in

1571
01:18:04,453 --> 01:18:07,293
Speaker 2: the garden with an amazing tip. If you tried oreos

1572
01:18:07,333 --> 01:18:09,453
Speaker 2: and a trap at your place, by all means, let

1573
01:18:09,493 --> 01:18:11,133
Speaker 2: me know how you got on. I'd be very hard

1574
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:13,773
Speaker 2: to beat Rud's record over four nights. I reckon. It

1575
01:18:13,853 --> 01:18:16,493
Speaker 2: is always eleven o'clock, which means it's always news time.

1576
01:18:16,853 --> 01:18:19,853
Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tame Saturday morning. This is news talks. He'd be.

1577
01:18:22,133 --> 01:18:25,933
Speaker 5: Saturday morning with Jack dam keeping the conversation going through

1578
01:18:25,973 --> 01:18:27,333
Speaker 5: the weekend news talks.

1579
01:18:27,333 --> 01:18:27,653
Speaker 8: It'd be.

1580
01:18:51,453 --> 01:18:56,573
Speaker 2: A the Tiger Woods. Hey, my goodness, that guy I'm

1581
01:18:56,573 --> 01:18:59,493
Speaker 2: sure more details are going to come out over the

1582
01:18:59,533 --> 01:19:03,013
Speaker 2: next hours and days. Interesting that they're holding him behind bars.

1583
01:19:03,053 --> 01:19:05,013
Speaker 2: Many Americans did not do things for hearts when it

1584
01:19:05,053 --> 01:19:07,573
Speaker 2: comes to law enforcement today. Anyway, we'll keep you up

1585
01:19:07,613 --> 01:19:10,453
Speaker 2: today if there are any updates coming out of Florida

1586
01:19:10,533 --> 01:19:13,893
Speaker 2: after that crash. This morning, Tiger Woods charged with a

1587
01:19:13,973 --> 01:19:18,453
Speaker 2: dui being held in custody for the time being. Before midday, though,

1588
01:19:18,493 --> 01:19:20,613
Speaker 2: my goodness, do we have a treat for you. Robin,

1589
01:19:21,013 --> 01:19:25,893
Speaker 2: the Swedish pop superstar, has just released her latest album.

1590
01:19:25,973 --> 01:19:28,213
Speaker 2: There's been so much hype about this album and I've

1591
01:19:28,253 --> 01:19:30,933
Speaker 2: been kind of mixed about it because I love Robin

1592
01:19:31,053 --> 01:19:33,013
Speaker 2: or at the very least, I like one of her

1593
01:19:33,173 --> 01:19:37,133
Speaker 2: album's Body Talk from fifteen years ago, is among my

1594
01:19:37,213 --> 01:19:40,093
Speaker 2: all time favorite albums. I really just think it's an

1595
01:19:40,133 --> 01:19:44,533
Speaker 2: absolute stonking perfect pop album. And her last album was okay,

1596
01:19:44,573 --> 01:19:47,133
Speaker 2: I didn't love it as much, but there has been

1597
01:19:47,133 --> 01:19:50,013
Speaker 2: so much hype about sexistential if possibly I've sort of

1598
01:19:50,053 --> 01:19:53,093
Speaker 2: wondered if it's possible to live up to the hype

1599
01:19:53,773 --> 01:19:56,853
Speaker 2: of her Body Talk album. So before midday, We've got

1600
01:19:56,853 --> 01:19:58,573
Speaker 2: a couple of tracks. We're going to play those for

1601
01:19:58,653 --> 01:20:01,653
Speaker 2: you and a music reviewer, is going to be in

1602
01:20:01,693 --> 01:20:05,133
Speaker 2: with his thoughts on Robin's brand new album as well

1603
01:20:05,133 --> 01:20:06,973
Speaker 2: as that, we've got your book picks for them weekend,

1604
01:20:07,333 --> 01:20:12,973
Speaker 2: including this really interesting one, this historical story called Battle

1605
01:20:12,973 --> 01:20:16,933
Speaker 2: of the Arctic that follows this incredible effort to reach

1606
01:20:17,053 --> 01:20:21,253
Speaker 2: the super northerly point backed by Winston Churchill back in

1607
01:20:21,293 --> 01:20:23,013
Speaker 2: the day. But we'll give you a bit more detail

1608
01:20:23,053 --> 01:20:26,093
Speaker 2: on that very shortly. Right now though it is just

1609
01:20:26,093 --> 01:20:30,173
Speaker 2: coming up to nine minutes past eleven Jack Now, sustainability

1610
01:20:30,293 --> 01:20:34,013
Speaker 2: expert Kate Hall is here with details of her very

1611
01:20:34,013 --> 01:20:38,053
Speaker 2: interesting new project this morning. Good morning, Kate, you have

1612
01:20:38,213 --> 01:20:41,133
Speaker 2: an incredible new project on the go, truth be told,

1613
01:20:41,133 --> 01:20:42,373
Speaker 2: I actually feel like it's a bit of a shame

1614
01:20:42,373 --> 01:20:44,293
Speaker 2: that they haven't set up one of those reality TV

1615
01:20:44,453 --> 01:20:47,733
Speaker 2: shows you know, yeah not yeah, you know when like

1616
01:20:48,093 --> 01:20:50,053
Speaker 2: a couple moves to the south of France and ties

1617
01:20:50,093 --> 01:20:53,333
Speaker 2: to restore an old barn or you know, it's almost

1618
01:20:53,373 --> 01:20:56,173
Speaker 2: like a Grand Designs project in a sense, tell us

1619
01:20:56,213 --> 01:20:58,013
Speaker 2: about your suburban homestead.

1620
01:20:59,053 --> 01:21:01,653
Speaker 13: Yes, so, I mean, anyone's welcome to make a TV

1621
01:21:01,693 --> 01:21:05,173
Speaker 13: show about it, always open to the idea. But basically

1622
01:21:05,453 --> 01:21:08,333
Speaker 13: what we so it is so many people have the

1623
01:21:08,413 --> 01:21:11,693
Speaker 13: dream of buying a little slice of land, having like

1624
01:21:12,093 --> 01:21:14,773
Speaker 13: you know, a milking cow and chickens and growing your

1625
01:21:14,813 --> 01:21:17,533
Speaker 13: own food. And I think people, especially at the moment,

1626
01:21:17,613 --> 01:21:20,373
Speaker 13: are dreaming of that with the price of everything, a

1627
01:21:20,413 --> 01:21:23,133
Speaker 13: little bit of it more self sufficient. But the reality

1628
01:21:23,213 --> 01:21:26,013
Speaker 13: is most of us can't do that. It's you know,

1629
01:21:26,093 --> 01:21:29,053
Speaker 13: out of our cost range because the prices land and

1630
01:21:29,733 --> 01:21:33,453
Speaker 13: homes and it's just it feels impossible to most people.

1631
01:21:33,773 --> 01:21:36,093
Speaker 13: So what we're doing, because we have a very tiny

1632
01:21:36,253 --> 01:21:39,413
Speaker 13: slither of land, like very tiny. We've got eight neighbors,

1633
01:21:39,453 --> 01:21:43,693
Speaker 13: so it's in dense you know, high density Suabia. We

1634
01:21:43,773 --> 01:21:47,013
Speaker 13: are trying to show people what you can do with

1635
01:21:47,453 --> 01:21:50,853
Speaker 13: that situation, which is quite a common situation for a

1636
01:21:50,853 --> 01:21:53,093
Speaker 13: lot of people. So we're calling it the suburban home

1637
01:21:53,133 --> 01:21:57,493
Speaker 13: set projects and were, yeah, we've kicked it off. We've

1638
01:21:57,533 --> 01:22:01,293
Speaker 13: got you know, plans, new plans for that for the outside,

1639
01:22:01,453 --> 01:22:05,013
Speaker 13: and we're just basically creating a home that produces more

1640
01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:09,333
Speaker 13: wasteless and we're with nature and take those principles, but

1641
01:22:09,413 --> 01:22:10,573
Speaker 13: on a little tiny sliver.

1642
01:22:10,773 --> 01:22:12,613
Speaker 2: What a great idea. So what are you going to do?

1643
01:22:12,733 --> 01:22:13,773
Speaker 2: What are the big changes?

1644
01:22:14,893 --> 01:22:20,893
Speaker 13: So we're thinking of things like chickens or specifically smaller chickens,

1645
01:22:20,973 --> 01:22:21,733
Speaker 13: maybe quails.

1646
01:22:21,973 --> 01:22:24,653
Speaker 2: The rules about chickens are you allowed? There must be

1647
01:22:24,733 --> 01:22:25,853
Speaker 2: rules about where you're allowed chicken.

1648
01:22:26,293 --> 01:22:30,293
Speaker 13: We can't have roasters and stuff like that. Reasonable, Yeah, yeah,

1649
01:22:30,333 --> 01:22:33,093
Speaker 13: but I'm thinking about because chickens actually create that they

1650
01:22:33,133 --> 01:22:37,813
Speaker 13: can be quite destructive, and so thinking about it's like quails,

1651
01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:42,053
Speaker 13: you know, there's smaller Yeah, things like that. We're installing

1652
01:22:42,213 --> 01:22:47,453
Speaker 13: solar panels, thinking about how we can make yeah, use

1653
01:22:47,493 --> 01:22:50,093
Speaker 13: of bitter energy. So we're working with a company called

1654
01:22:50,133 --> 01:22:52,653
Speaker 13: Cogo has actually built a tool that you can see

1655
01:22:52,653 --> 01:22:55,213
Speaker 13: what cost and energy savings you can make in your

1656
01:22:55,213 --> 01:22:58,693
Speaker 13: own home. So yeah, think about how we can then

1657
01:22:58,813 --> 01:23:02,053
Speaker 13: use that sole energy and what kind of bitter systems

1658
01:23:02,133 --> 01:23:04,973
Speaker 13: we can have. And speaking of on the roof, we're

1659
01:23:04,973 --> 01:23:06,133
Speaker 13: thinking of bee hives on.

1660
01:23:06,133 --> 01:23:07,293
Speaker 2: The on the roof.

1661
01:23:08,253 --> 01:23:09,893
Speaker 14: Yeah wow cool.

1662
01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:12,453
Speaker 13: Our roofs is pretty great and set up for it.

1663
01:23:12,453 --> 01:23:16,933
Speaker 13: It's like pretty flat and right, yeah, you can have

1664
01:23:17,333 --> 01:23:19,773
Speaker 13: I think that could be better use of space because

1665
01:23:19,773 --> 01:23:22,653
Speaker 13: we're thinking vertical, you know, with even with our gardens. Yeah,

1666
01:23:22,693 --> 01:23:26,493
Speaker 13: we're thinking like vertical gardening and doing things a bit differently.

1667
01:23:27,733 --> 01:23:31,373
Speaker 13: We're also like our house is in nineteen sixties bungalow

1668
01:23:31,453 --> 01:23:35,333
Speaker 13: that really needs a bit of t LC. So we're

1669
01:23:35,693 --> 01:23:39,573
Speaker 13: you know, getting a new roof and thinking of like

1670
01:23:39,613 --> 01:23:42,213
Speaker 13: double glazing and all that sort of stuff that we're

1671
01:23:42,733 --> 01:23:47,013
Speaker 13: finding New Zealand businesses that actually like do things more

1672
01:23:47,053 --> 01:23:53,813
Speaker 13: sustainably because the construction and demolition waste accounts for forty

1673
01:23:53,853 --> 01:23:58,213
Speaker 13: to fifty percent of total waste since landfill each years.

1674
01:23:58,333 --> 01:24:01,773
Speaker 2: So that's a crazy as just.

1675
01:24:01,773 --> 01:24:06,733
Speaker 13: Huge, huge, and so yeah, we can't I don't want

1676
01:24:06,733 --> 01:24:09,413
Speaker 13: to show people what you can do. We want to like,

1677
01:24:09,773 --> 01:24:12,213
Speaker 13: you know, work with these companies and see you know,

1678
01:24:12,293 --> 01:24:14,813
Speaker 13: compare prices and all that type of stuff. Yeah, other

1679
01:24:14,853 --> 01:24:16,333
Speaker 13: people can actually do it too, so.

1680
01:24:16,773 --> 01:24:19,773
Speaker 2: You kind of document the journey basically, yes.

1681
01:24:19,773 --> 01:24:23,613
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, exactly because imagine if you know, even if

1682
01:24:23,653 --> 01:24:26,773
Speaker 13: we all just made small decisions, but around our home,

1683
01:24:26,773 --> 01:24:29,573
Speaker 13: around big things like you know, your new roof, things

1684
01:24:29,613 --> 01:24:32,693
Speaker 13: like that that can actually really yeah, make a huge impact.

1685
01:24:32,773 --> 01:24:35,733
Speaker 13: So we're working with Eco Choice. I don't know if

1686
01:24:35,733 --> 01:24:39,333
Speaker 13: you've seen their little kind of eco certification tick on

1687
01:24:39,453 --> 01:24:42,133
Speaker 13: a lot of construction things or your paint buckets and

1688
01:24:42,133 --> 01:24:45,373
Speaker 13: stuff like that, but they have been around for ages

1689
01:24:45,453 --> 01:24:50,213
Speaker 13: and certify construction based companies. So that's been really.

1690
01:24:50,053 --> 01:24:53,173
Speaker 2: Helpful to fantastic, So they can help you work out

1691
01:24:53,173 --> 01:24:55,933
Speaker 2: which companies to work with. Yes, then you can work

1692
01:24:55,933 --> 01:24:58,413
Speaker 2: out what might be the most sustainable way. Yeah, sure, Right,

1693
01:24:58,453 --> 01:25:00,293
Speaker 2: So it's not just a case of being like we're

1694
01:25:00,293 --> 01:25:01,813
Speaker 2: going to do that. We're gonna have solar panels, we're

1695
01:25:01,853 --> 01:25:03,253
Speaker 2: gonna have a guard, and we're going to have beehives,

1696
01:25:03,253 --> 01:25:05,973
Speaker 2: et cetera. It's like we've actually any construction stuff that

1697
01:25:06,013 --> 01:25:08,533
Speaker 2: we're going to we're going to try and build in

1698
01:25:08,533 --> 01:25:11,533
Speaker 2: the most sustainable way rather than what's necessarily the quickest, all.

1699
01:25:11,453 --> 01:25:13,333
Speaker 13: The cheapest one hundred percent.

1700
01:25:13,453 --> 01:25:13,813
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1701
01:25:14,013 --> 01:25:16,573
Speaker 13: Absolutely, So it's a mixture of we'll be trying to

1702
01:25:16,653 --> 01:25:20,933
Speaker 13: like reuse things and you know, like we're going to

1703
01:25:21,013 --> 01:25:23,533
Speaker 13: try to rain water harvesting, you know, so we can

1704
01:25:23,573 --> 01:25:26,533
Speaker 13: water the garden more efficiently, especially in summer. And so

1705
01:25:26,773 --> 01:25:30,533
Speaker 13: currently we've got like some old ap cycled big barrel

1706
01:25:30,613 --> 01:25:33,493
Speaker 13: things that we're yeah, you can we actually use these

1707
01:25:34,053 --> 01:25:37,973
Speaker 13: productively or do we need to yeah, get another solution.

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01:25:38,053 --> 01:25:40,293
Speaker 13: So it's a mixture of like gooi but also working

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Speaker 13: with sustainable businesses.

1710
01:25:41,653 --> 01:25:43,733
Speaker 2: And dear I suggest that none of these none of

1711
01:25:43,773 --> 01:25:47,173
Speaker 2: these big ticket things are super woo woo. You know,

1712
01:25:47,333 --> 01:25:50,093
Speaker 2: like my you know, my parents collect rainwater, and you know,

1713
01:25:50,493 --> 01:25:52,613
Speaker 2: I know people with solar panels and you know, and

1714
01:25:52,853 --> 01:25:56,933
Speaker 2: and beehives and all of that stuff, and and and

1715
01:25:57,013 --> 01:25:59,173
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone with quails, but chickens have certainly

1716
01:25:59,413 --> 01:26:02,333
Speaker 2: got a big text. I mean, these are all perfectly sustainable.

1717
01:26:02,413 --> 01:26:04,853
Speaker 2: You know, they're not they're not super out there changes.

1718
01:26:04,893 --> 01:26:07,373
Speaker 2: But as you say, it's more of us just did

1719
01:26:07,413 --> 01:26:14,013
Speaker 2: a little bit, it would collectively equate to a significant change, exactly.

1720
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:17,293
Speaker 13: And then it's also much more durable on a daily

1721
01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:20,933
Speaker 13: basis because you know, having people call it a life

1722
01:26:20,973 --> 01:26:25,213
Speaker 13: sentence block, don't they a lifestyle block, because that actually

1723
01:26:25,253 --> 01:26:28,373
Speaker 13: involves a lot of labor, a lot of time where

1724
01:26:28,533 --> 01:26:33,453
Speaker 13: you know, there's still still working, like there's still yeah,

1725
01:26:33,853 --> 01:26:35,493
Speaker 13: And so I think doing it on a small scale

1726
01:26:35,613 --> 01:26:38,973
Speaker 13: is also quite efficient in that sense that you get

1727
01:26:39,013 --> 01:26:42,133
Speaker 13: all the joys of growing your own food and you know,

1728
01:26:42,493 --> 01:26:45,173
Speaker 13: going to I can't wait to go get the eggs

1729
01:26:45,213 --> 01:26:47,813
Speaker 13: in the morning with my daughter. Yeah, things like that.

1730
01:26:47,813 --> 01:26:51,493
Speaker 13: That really that's all the good parts of what we

1731
01:26:51,533 --> 01:26:55,133
Speaker 13: want from a lifestyle block, right, so good the lovely fields.

1732
01:26:55,133 --> 01:26:58,173
Speaker 13: But yeah, we can get that without having to move

1733
01:26:58,253 --> 01:26:58,893
Speaker 13: to the BOP.

1734
01:26:59,053 --> 01:27:01,893
Speaker 2: I'm really excited and I hope that you will as

1735
01:27:01,893 --> 01:27:05,533
Speaker 2: well as sharing us, sharing with us your successes. I

1736
01:27:05,573 --> 01:27:07,453
Speaker 2: know you do this. Make sure you tell us what

1737
01:27:07,573 --> 01:27:10,253
Speaker 2: turns out to be more challenging than you expect it, right, Like,

1738
01:27:10,293 --> 01:27:13,773
Speaker 2: those are the things that are often really useful from

1739
01:27:13,813 --> 01:27:15,533
Speaker 2: a learning side of the equation.

1740
01:27:16,373 --> 01:27:18,733
Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, we're hopefully going to do it and make

1741
01:27:18,733 --> 01:27:20,013
Speaker 13: all the mistakes so yeah.

1742
01:27:20,093 --> 01:27:21,653
Speaker 14: Yeah ah, so we.

1743
01:27:21,613 --> 01:27:26,773
Speaker 13: Shouldn't have chickens because the nats are going to them.

1744
01:27:27,533 --> 01:27:29,613
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, work out the right things. Hey, thank

1745
01:27:29,613 --> 01:27:31,813
Speaker 2: you so much, Kate. How exciting. So you can follow

1746
01:27:31,893 --> 01:27:35,573
Speaker 2: Kate's journey on her social media channels to search ethically

1747
01:27:35,653 --> 01:27:38,573
Speaker 2: Kate on social media, her name will pop right up.

1748
01:27:39,133 --> 01:27:42,053
Speaker 2: It's sixteen minutes past eleven on new stooks.

1749
01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:42,213
Speaker 4: See.

1750
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:44,973
Speaker 2: But thank you very much for your feedback, John says Jack.

1751
01:27:45,173 --> 01:27:48,453
Speaker 2: Kate's homestead project sounds like that old English program from

1752
01:27:48,493 --> 01:27:51,133
Speaker 2: back in the day. It's called The Good Life iget.

1753
01:27:51,173 --> 01:27:53,773
Speaker 2: It sounds like about ten different programs, doesn't it does?

1754
01:27:53,813 --> 01:27:57,093
Speaker 2: There is a slightly idyllic kind of quality, especially when

1755
01:27:57,173 --> 01:28:00,533
Speaker 2: planning it out. It's always interesting to see if the

1756
01:28:00,573 --> 01:28:03,133
Speaker 2: reality matches the dream, but I'm sure Kate's going to

1757
01:28:03,173 --> 01:28:05,253
Speaker 2: keep us up to speed to that. With that and

1758
01:28:05,333 --> 01:28:06,933
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes on new Tbalok, it'd be our

1759
01:28:07,053 --> 01:28:11,253
Speaker 2: travel correspondent is in and as all sorts of airlines

1760
01:28:11,373 --> 01:28:14,413
Speaker 2: face all sorts of challenges, the least of which behing

1761
01:28:14,453 --> 01:28:16,933
Speaker 2: the cost of jet fuel, at the moment, he reckons

1762
01:28:16,973 --> 01:28:19,813
Speaker 2: there is one airline operating in this part of the

1763
01:28:19,813 --> 01:28:23,253
Speaker 2: world that is actually going from strength to strength. So

1764
01:28:23,293 --> 01:28:26,853
Speaker 2: he's going to tell us what it is. Sixteen past eleven.

1765
01:28:28,013 --> 01:28:31,293
Speaker 5: Travel with Wendy wu Tours Where the World Is Yours

1766
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01:28:32,373 --> 01:28:35,013
Speaker 2: Twenty past eleven. Now, Travel correspondent is Mike Yardley.

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01:28:35,093 --> 01:28:37,773
Speaker 4: Good morning sir, Good morning Jack.

1769
01:28:38,133 --> 01:28:40,093
Speaker 2: How long til you get to go to Takaha. For

1770
01:28:40,133 --> 01:28:42,013
Speaker 2: the first time, I noticed you weren't there in the

1771
01:28:42,053 --> 01:28:45,053
Speaker 2: background as they cut the ribbon yesterday. As Dan carters,

1772
01:28:45,133 --> 01:28:46,813
Speaker 2: there's a lot of one between the posts.

1773
01:28:47,813 --> 01:28:52,293
Speaker 23: I poked my head in very briefly. What I think

1774
01:28:52,413 --> 01:28:54,453
Speaker 23: is just so good about it, Jack, is that it

1775
01:28:54,693 --> 01:28:59,493
Speaker 23: embodies the intimacy that was probably the only good thing

1776
01:28:59,693 --> 01:29:03,093
Speaker 23: about Apollo, where you're right up close to the field,

1777
01:29:03,413 --> 01:29:07,573
Speaker 23: so that experience has absolutely matted. At one New Zealand.

1778
01:29:07,773 --> 01:29:12,373
Speaker 23: So yeah, and that just accentuates the whole experience for people.

1779
01:29:12,453 --> 01:29:14,693
Speaker 4: So yeah, it is going to be so special.

1780
01:29:14,973 --> 01:29:17,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. Now we're focusing this morning on an airline

1781
01:29:17,693 --> 01:29:20,213
Speaker 2: that you reckon is actually going from strength to strength

1782
01:29:20,253 --> 01:29:22,773
Speaker 2: at the moment, which is pretty rare given the status,

1783
01:29:23,213 --> 01:29:24,653
Speaker 2: given the state of the world at the moment you

1784
01:29:24,693 --> 01:29:29,613
Speaker 2: reckon Fiji. Fiji Airways has become a serious competitor in

1785
01:29:29,613 --> 01:29:30,173
Speaker 2: the Pacific.

1786
01:29:31,573 --> 01:29:33,813
Speaker 4: It is a really remarkable story, Jack.

1787
01:29:33,973 --> 01:29:37,773
Speaker 23: Yeah, and given as you quite rightly say, the turbulence

1788
01:29:37,813 --> 01:29:42,013
Speaker 23: clobbering global aviation at the moment, it is certainly good

1789
01:29:42,093 --> 01:29:46,213
Speaker 23: to have plenty of competitive options for trans Pacific travel.

1790
01:29:46,853 --> 01:29:49,573
Speaker 23: So Fiji Airways since COVID, they have been on this

1791
01:29:49,933 --> 01:29:54,093
Speaker 23: major growth path, spreading their wings far and wide across

1792
01:29:54,173 --> 01:29:59,133
Speaker 23: Asia and North America. They're sizing up South America. They've

1793
01:29:59,213 --> 01:30:01,053
Speaker 23: been on a roll. In fact, if you look at

1794
01:30:01,053 --> 01:30:04,133
Speaker 23: the international route network, they now fly to twenty five

1795
01:30:04,213 --> 01:30:09,053
Speaker 23: destinations in fifteen countries. It's nearly as comprehensive as their

1796
01:30:09,133 --> 01:30:12,733
Speaker 23: New Zealand's in New Zealand go twenty nine destinations in

1797
01:30:12,853 --> 01:30:13,813
Speaker 23: sixteen countries.

1798
01:30:13,893 --> 01:30:18,133
Speaker 4: So they are like the little airline that could amazing.

1799
01:30:18,253 --> 01:30:22,173
Speaker 2: So for trans Pacific travel, what key long haul destinations

1800
01:30:22,173 --> 01:30:22,853
Speaker 2: can they get you too?

1801
01:30:24,053 --> 01:30:24,253
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1802
01:30:24,253 --> 01:30:26,733
Speaker 23: Well, if you're flying from Auckland, Wellington or christ Church

1803
01:30:26,773 --> 01:30:31,253
Speaker 23: to Nandy. They have positioned themselves as a sharply priced

1804
01:30:31,253 --> 01:30:35,093
Speaker 23: option for long haul travel, So lots of onward connections

1805
01:30:35,133 --> 01:30:42,493
Speaker 23: to say Vancouver, La, Dallas, San Francisco, Honolulu, Tokyo, Singapore,

1806
01:30:43,173 --> 01:30:45,573
Speaker 23: Hong Kong. Then you've got all the South Pacific routes

1807
01:30:45,613 --> 01:30:48,613
Speaker 23: that they crisscross. I actually had the Prime Minister of

1808
01:30:48,693 --> 01:30:51,333
Speaker 23: Tuvaro seated next to me on my flight home to

1809
01:30:51,373 --> 01:30:53,173
Speaker 23: christ Church this week, so you never know who you'll

1810
01:30:53,213 --> 01:30:53,653
Speaker 23: end up with.

1811
01:30:54,493 --> 01:30:59,173
Speaker 2: Amazing. Yeah, okay, interesting, So for people in the three

1812
01:30:59,173 --> 01:31:00,453
Speaker 2: and christ Jurchen and Wellington.

1813
01:31:00,693 --> 01:31:01,613
Speaker 4: Yeah what yeh?

1814
01:31:01,653 --> 01:31:02,973
Speaker 2: He added appeal.

1815
01:31:03,733 --> 01:31:06,053
Speaker 4: Well, with the greatest respect to walking to the airport.

1816
01:31:06,133 --> 01:31:12,013
Speaker 23: Jack flying Fiji avoids the FAF entailed and lugging it

1817
01:31:12,053 --> 01:31:16,373
Speaker 23: between terminals at Auckland for onward connections, and those long

1818
01:31:16,373 --> 01:31:19,613
Speaker 23: haul flights to North America and Asia from Nandy they

1819
01:31:19,653 --> 01:31:22,173
Speaker 23: are well timed with the New Zealand flights, so you've

1820
01:31:22,173 --> 01:31:25,893
Speaker 23: got a very short, very seamless transit to change planes

1821
01:31:25,893 --> 01:31:29,613
Speaker 23: in Nandy. The only wrinkle I would point out is

1822
01:31:29,653 --> 01:31:32,293
Speaker 23: that I noticed that the Nandy Departures Lounge is now

1823
01:31:32,493 --> 01:31:35,213
Speaker 23: bursting at the seams. You know, they've become like a

1824
01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:38,693
Speaker 23: victim of their own success. But there are plans in

1825
01:31:38,733 --> 01:31:42,493
Speaker 23: the works to substantially enlarge the departures area and facilities,

1826
01:31:42,533 --> 01:31:43,893
Speaker 23: which cannot come soon enough.

1827
01:31:44,613 --> 01:31:45,893
Speaker 2: And I guess you can give yourself a bit of

1828
01:31:45,893 --> 01:31:47,413
Speaker 2: a bonus break in Fiji as well.

1829
01:31:47,493 --> 01:31:49,853
Speaker 4: Right, well, this is the great thing.

1830
01:31:49,933 --> 01:31:52,333
Speaker 23: Yeah, regardless where you are in New Zealand, if you

1831
01:31:52,373 --> 01:31:56,373
Speaker 23: fly Fiji airways, say you know, to North America, why

1832
01:31:56,493 --> 01:31:59,853
Speaker 23: not give yourself two holidays and one. So I came

1833
01:31:59,893 --> 01:32:04,533
Speaker 23: back from Dallas and had a couple of nights mini

1834
01:32:04,533 --> 01:32:06,973
Speaker 23: break in Fiji on the way home, and I actually

1835
01:32:06,973 --> 01:32:10,053
Speaker 23: found it a really good way to just shake off

1836
01:32:10,053 --> 01:32:13,453
Speaker 23: all that jet lag from those big Transpacific flights before

1837
01:32:13,493 --> 01:32:14,533
Speaker 23: you quit hop home.

1838
01:32:15,413 --> 01:32:16,453
Speaker 4: Highly recommend it.

1839
01:32:16,693 --> 01:32:18,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, how good. I think it's a great way to

1840
01:32:19,053 --> 01:32:22,093
Speaker 2: approach things. What about the in flight experience? They got

1841
01:32:22,093 --> 01:32:23,013
Speaker 2: new planes.

1842
01:32:23,693 --> 01:32:26,013
Speaker 23: They have, Yeah, they're really proud of their super new

1843
01:32:26,093 --> 01:32:30,093
Speaker 23: big birds. So across the Pacific. Extra wide body A

1844
01:32:30,213 --> 01:32:33,133
Speaker 23: three fifties are the workhorses long haul and they're such

1845
01:32:33,133 --> 01:32:36,893
Speaker 23: good aircraft. I've used them with Kathay and Singapore and

1846
01:32:37,213 --> 01:32:39,533
Speaker 23: what I love about the A three fifties is they

1847
01:32:39,573 --> 01:32:42,413
Speaker 23: are super quiet. You don't get that engine noise in

1848
01:32:42,453 --> 01:32:45,253
Speaker 23: the cabin and the air quality in the cabin is

1849
01:32:45,453 --> 01:32:49,213
Speaker 23: so much better. And I certainly could not fault the

1850
01:32:49,213 --> 01:32:53,173
Speaker 23: in flight experience and economy. The on demand entertainment options

1851
01:32:53,213 --> 01:32:56,493
Speaker 23: are substantial. They've got in flight Wi Fi. The food

1852
01:32:56,533 --> 01:32:58,893
Speaker 23: and beverage was really good. Actually, on my way home

1853
01:32:58,973 --> 01:33:01,813
Speaker 23: check I thought you would like this. I had a

1854
01:33:01,893 --> 01:33:06,133
Speaker 23: hot and fluffy waffle with berries and custard for breakfast

1855
01:33:06,773 --> 01:33:12,293
Speaker 23: an economy and it was such it was and the

1856
01:33:12,333 --> 01:33:16,773
Speaker 23: custard was dreamy. It was such a good breakfast option.

1857
01:33:17,133 --> 01:33:20,973
Speaker 23: So that that has stayed with me. I have to say, good.

1858
01:33:21,213 --> 01:33:22,853
Speaker 2: Did they have premium economy?

1859
01:33:24,213 --> 01:33:27,533
Speaker 23: Well, yeah, good question because the point here end is

1860
01:33:27,613 --> 01:33:30,933
Speaker 23: certainly attracting an ongoing surge and demand worldwide. You know,

1861
01:33:31,013 --> 01:33:36,373
Speaker 23: amongst flyers, Fiji offers business and economy. But interestingly, even

1862
01:33:36,453 --> 01:33:39,893
Speaker 23: though they don't have a dedicated premium economy section, what

1863
01:33:39,933 --> 01:33:42,933
Speaker 23: they have done is there marked a lot of seats

1864
01:33:42,933 --> 01:33:45,613
Speaker 23: and economy is what they call ball of space seats,

1865
01:33:45,813 --> 01:33:48,773
Speaker 23: right so this gives you a lot more leg room

1866
01:33:48,893 --> 01:33:51,773
Speaker 23: and seat recline if you want to stretch out, and

1867
01:33:51,813 --> 01:33:54,933
Speaker 23: it's not as expensive as you'd expect, you know, like

1868
01:33:55,013 --> 01:33:58,973
Speaker 23: if you upgrade to Premium economy on another carrier. So

1869
01:33:59,333 --> 01:34:02,133
Speaker 23: you just choose bull of space in the seat selection

1870
01:34:02,253 --> 01:34:06,373
Speaker 23: booking process, and it's a really good, non exorbitant option.

1871
01:34:06,613 --> 01:34:08,653
Speaker 2: On a stretch just a little bit more space. Yeah, no,

1872
01:34:08,773 --> 01:34:10,413
Speaker 2: that could be yeah for those of us who have

1873
01:34:10,493 --> 01:34:12,773
Speaker 2: abnormally long femurs, that could be a very good This

1874
01:34:12,813 --> 01:34:15,053
Speaker 2: is true, Jack, Yes, yes, Okay, Well what about it

1875
01:34:15,453 --> 01:34:18,133
Speaker 2: on a global scale? How would you say they kind

1876
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:19,613
Speaker 2: of rate can be to other airlines.

1877
01:34:20,533 --> 01:34:22,293
Speaker 23: Yeah, I've been doing a bit of digging and they

1878
01:34:22,533 --> 01:34:25,253
Speaker 23: certainly are turning a few heads in the airline world.

1879
01:34:25,413 --> 01:34:25,613
Speaker 6: Now.

1880
01:34:25,653 --> 01:34:28,653
Speaker 23: I know aviation awards can be a bit dime a dozen,

1881
01:34:29,253 --> 01:34:32,893
Speaker 23: But interestingly Fiji Airways, I know, they were stoked a

1882
01:34:32,893 --> 01:34:35,773
Speaker 23: few months ago to score what is called an APEX

1883
01:34:35,813 --> 01:34:39,013
Speaker 23: World Class Airline Award and these are reserved to just

1884
01:34:39,173 --> 01:34:42,813
Speaker 23: ten global airlines. So they bagged one of these in November.

1885
01:34:42,893 --> 01:34:47,253
Speaker 23: So that has thrust Fiji into the same company as

1886
01:34:47,613 --> 01:34:52,653
Speaker 23: their usual gong grabbers like Emirates, Cutter and Singapore Airlines

1887
01:34:53,413 --> 01:34:57,893
Speaker 23: and also Fiji Airways won the APEX Global Award the

1888
01:34:57,933 --> 01:35:02,133
Speaker 23: Best Cabin Service. Now that does not surprise me because

1889
01:35:02,693 --> 01:35:06,933
Speaker 23: their crew on every flight IALK were just the stars

1890
01:35:06,973 --> 01:35:07,373
Speaker 23: of the show.

1891
01:35:07,453 --> 01:35:07,613
Speaker 4: You know.

1892
01:35:07,653 --> 01:35:12,333
Speaker 23: It's that quintessential Fijian hospitality you'll get. So I rate them, Jack,

1893
01:35:12,413 --> 01:35:14,653
Speaker 23: I do rate them, And as I say, I just

1894
01:35:14,653 --> 01:35:18,013
Speaker 23: think it's so good that we have a number of

1895
01:35:18,173 --> 01:35:21,853
Speaker 23: competitively priced options to get us across the big Pacific.

1896
01:35:21,573 --> 01:35:24,133
Speaker 2: And there are so many just little additional bonuses with

1897
01:35:24,173 --> 01:35:25,733
Speaker 2: that d like whether it's the Bull of Space or

1898
01:35:25,733 --> 01:35:28,453
Speaker 2: whether it's christ Church and Wellington, and the options across

1899
01:35:28,453 --> 01:35:31,653
Speaker 2: the Pacific from the different centers, those things en end

1900
01:35:31,733 --> 01:35:35,453
Speaker 2: up that the kind of net effect can be really significant.

1901
01:35:35,493 --> 01:35:37,053
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1902
01:35:37,133 --> 01:35:39,173
Speaker 23: Yeah, I just found it quite a stress free way

1903
01:35:39,213 --> 01:35:40,853
Speaker 23: to get from you know, A to B to C

1904
01:35:40,973 --> 01:35:43,613
Speaker 23: to D. I actually really enjoyed it and I didn't

1905
01:35:43,613 --> 01:35:47,893
Speaker 23: come back feeling you know, jaded, as I often do

1906
01:35:48,013 --> 01:35:49,813
Speaker 23: on those big trans Pacific flights.

1907
01:35:50,013 --> 01:35:50,373
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1908
01:35:50,413 --> 01:35:52,213
Speaker 2: Good, Okay, Hey, thank you for their mine. We very

1909
01:35:52,293 --> 01:35:56,533
Speaker 2: much appreciate a current sights on flying Fiji Airways. Mike's

1910
01:35:56,613 --> 01:35:59,253
Speaker 2: article is up on the news Talks. He'd be website

1911
01:35:59,773 --> 01:36:02,853
Speaker 2: along with everything from our show. We put everything up there,

1912
01:36:02,973 --> 01:36:05,333
Speaker 2: so that recipe we shared befourteen o'clock this morning, the

1913
01:36:05,373 --> 01:36:10,533
Speaker 2: salted caramel maked apples, that fantastic sounding dessert is up

1914
01:36:10,653 --> 01:36:15,293
Speaker 2: on the website. Our film picks, our screen time recommendations,

1915
01:36:15,333 --> 01:36:17,853
Speaker 2: our book reviews. Everything goes up there. News Talks, hedb

1916
01:36:17,973 --> 01:36:21,293
Speaker 2: dot co dot NZ, Forward slash Jack. It's just coming

1917
01:36:21,373 --> 01:36:23,213
Speaker 2: up to eleven thirty. We will see what Jason Pine

1918
01:36:23,333 --> 01:36:25,493
Speaker 2: is planning for us on Weekend Sport this afternoon when

1919
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Speaker 2: he joins us in a couple of minutes.

1920
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Speaker 4: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks AB,

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Speaker 1: a little.

1923
01:36:53,613 --> 01:36:56,093
Speaker 2: Bit of Harry Styles for your Saturday morning and from

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Speaker 2: one half Rob to another, Jason Pine is in the

1925
01:36:58,133 --> 01:37:01,933
Speaker 2: studio on a segue A good to see you, sir,

1926
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Speaker 2: Good to see you Weekend Sport this afternoon, and let's

1927
01:37:04,373 --> 01:37:06,333
Speaker 2: start off with your whites because you and I love it.

1928
01:37:06,733 --> 01:37:08,613
Speaker 2: Didn't love that performance last night. If I'm totally I

1929
01:37:08,693 --> 01:37:12,453
Speaker 2: was secking half much better. First half bit flat. It

1930
01:37:12,573 --> 01:37:13,973
Speaker 2: was just like they were a bit They sort of

1931
01:37:14,053 --> 01:37:16,533
Speaker 2: just came out in third gear and it was like, guys,

1932
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Speaker 2: come on, European opposition. World couple a couple of months away.

1933
01:37:19,453 --> 01:37:21,733
Speaker 2: You've got to be coming out firing from the word go.

1934
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Speaker 24: I feel like they could use these two games, and

1935
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Speaker 24: I'm sure they thought this way too as a as

1936
01:37:25,933 --> 01:37:28,173
Speaker 24: almost a rehearsal. You're right, Jack, you know, two games

1937
01:37:28,173 --> 01:37:30,173
Speaker 24: and what for four days at the World Cup would

1938
01:37:30,213 --> 01:37:32,933
Speaker 24: be similar. So come out as if that game last

1939
01:37:33,013 --> 01:37:34,413
Speaker 24: night was your first game at the World Cup. So

1940
01:37:34,573 --> 01:37:36,293
Speaker 24: get something out of it so that you're not on

1941
01:37:36,333 --> 01:37:37,413
Speaker 24: the back foot straight away.

1942
01:37:37,853 --> 01:37:38,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

1943
01:37:38,453 --> 01:37:40,813
Speaker 24: They just for whatever reason, and it's so hard to

1944
01:37:41,133 --> 01:37:46,453
Speaker 24: explain why weren't in tom gear to start with. They afterwards,

1945
01:37:46,493 --> 01:37:48,253
Speaker 24: you know, a couple of players had the chance to

1946
01:37:48,333 --> 01:37:50,493
Speaker 24: chat to end coach Darren Baseley. He said, look, we

1947
01:37:50,533 --> 01:37:52,613
Speaker 24: had a good week, we had a good warm up,

1948
01:37:52,773 --> 01:37:54,893
Speaker 24: but when we came out there, it just didn't translate.

1949
01:37:54,933 --> 01:37:58,773
Speaker 2: Which is so fine that happens, is kind of it's

1950
01:37:58,853 --> 01:38:00,253
Speaker 2: very hard to put your finger on anything.

1951
01:38:00,333 --> 01:38:02,053
Speaker 24: Yeah, which I mean, if they if they said, okay,

1952
01:38:02,053 --> 01:38:03,893
Speaker 24: we were defensively poor, we made eras or you know,

1953
01:38:03,893 --> 01:38:06,013
Speaker 24: we didn't play very well in the attacking third. That's

1954
01:38:06,013 --> 01:38:08,533
Speaker 24: more for of all then attitude. But maybe attitude is

1955
01:38:08,573 --> 01:38:10,853
Speaker 24: flexible because it's base level stuff. You know, you come

1956
01:38:10,893 --> 01:38:13,093
Speaker 24: in to an All Whites camp and base level as

1957
01:38:13,133 --> 01:38:15,413
Speaker 24: you give everything all the time. Not saying that they

1958
01:38:15,413 --> 01:38:18,533
Speaker 24: didn't try, absolutely not, but I guess happily for them,

1959
01:38:18,573 --> 01:38:20,493
Speaker 24: they do have another game on Monday night against Chile.

1960
01:38:20,973 --> 01:38:23,933
Speaker 24: They'll take what they can from last night and go

1961
01:38:24,013 --> 01:38:27,973
Speaker 24: into that game. But yeah, it was a it was

1962
01:38:28,093 --> 01:38:32,733
Speaker 24: a little bit unsatisfying. Ye from the game last night.

1963
01:38:32,733 --> 01:38:34,253
Speaker 24: I was like, oh, that was just a bit frustrating

1964
01:38:34,253 --> 01:38:36,213
Speaker 24: and a little bit disappointing. And you wake up this

1965
01:38:36,253 --> 01:38:38,253
Speaker 24: morning and the All Whites won a game. It's like, hey,

1966
01:38:38,533 --> 01:38:40,413
Speaker 24: you know as well, the world and the World Cup

1967
01:38:40,493 --> 01:38:42,893
Speaker 24: is coming into view. Now there's just a few more

1968
01:38:42,973 --> 01:38:43,733
Speaker 24: questions to be answered.

1969
01:38:43,773 --> 01:38:45,893
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, yeah, I think it's very well put

1970
01:38:46,413 --> 01:38:47,813
Speaker 2: Francis Debreze as well.

1971
01:38:47,933 --> 01:38:52,413
Speaker 24: Yeah, a little calf, I think. I mean, the good

1972
01:38:52,413 --> 01:38:54,573
Speaker 24: thing about Francis to Rees and all these players is

1973
01:38:54,613 --> 01:38:58,293
Speaker 24: when they do feel a little twins, they stop because

1974
01:38:58,333 --> 01:38:59,893
Speaker 24: I think in the past players but I'll be all right,

1975
01:39:00,093 --> 01:39:03,133
Speaker 24: I'll run it off. Yeah, Steve Coriker, I'm sure was

1976
01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:08,173
Speaker 24: watching with them. Yes, threw his fingers slightly anxious scenes

1977
01:39:08,173 --> 01:39:11,253
Speaker 24: in the meantime across town the Warriors.

1978
01:39:14,493 --> 01:39:18,413
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just classic. It's classic Warriors, don't you

1979
01:39:18,493 --> 01:39:22,013
Speaker 2: think so. There's nothing if not a roller coaster. You know,

1980
01:39:22,133 --> 01:39:24,693
Speaker 2: the highs are so high, the lows can be pretty low.

1981
01:39:25,253 --> 01:39:27,213
Speaker 2: Just was a poor performance. It just it fell like

1982
01:39:27,293 --> 01:39:29,413
Speaker 2: Benji Marshall, this is right over them last night.

1983
01:39:29,773 --> 01:39:33,253
Speaker 24: Yeah, elite a sport sort of in vivid color there

1984
01:39:33,293 --> 01:39:36,413
Speaker 24: last night, three from three Warriors firm favorites. I saw

1985
01:39:36,453 --> 01:39:38,333
Speaker 24: some ta b odds for what they're worth. I think

1986
01:39:38,373 --> 01:39:40,293
Speaker 24: the Tigers were paying four thirty to win that game,

1987
01:39:40,493 --> 01:39:41,973
Speaker 24: you know, Warriors about a dollar twenty.

1988
01:39:42,173 --> 01:39:43,733
Speaker 2: And you know, and rightly.

1989
01:39:43,533 --> 01:39:45,453
Speaker 24: So probabably be that one of their first three should

1990
01:39:45,453 --> 01:39:47,253
Speaker 24: have won last night, didn't win last night. This is

1991
01:39:47,293 --> 01:39:49,773
Speaker 24: the brutal reality of elite sport. So yeah, we'll cover

1992
01:39:49,853 --> 01:39:51,413
Speaker 24: that off. Get some get some feedback on that.

1993
01:39:51,453 --> 01:39:53,773
Speaker 2: This afternoon's working at the cost of community sports. This

1994
01:39:53,813 --> 01:39:55,333
Speaker 2: is such an I know, I know you've done a

1995
01:39:55,333 --> 01:39:58,213
Speaker 2: bit on it already, but this is such an important

1996
01:39:58,213 --> 01:40:02,733
Speaker 2: issue and really like getting more and more prescient for people.

1997
01:40:02,493 --> 01:40:02,933
Speaker 9: By the day.

1998
01:40:02,933 --> 01:40:05,053
Speaker 24: At the moment, given the price of fuel, absolutely right,

1999
01:40:05,133 --> 01:40:08,093
Speaker 24: even getting to games is now costing. Yeah, so this

2000
01:40:08,653 --> 01:40:12,453
Speaker 24: is two sided. It's families who have to make choices

2001
01:40:12,493 --> 01:40:14,693
Speaker 24: around how they spend their money. Can they get their

2002
01:40:14,773 --> 01:40:17,573
Speaker 24: kids into sport with all the costs of subs, of gear,

2003
01:40:17,813 --> 01:40:19,733
Speaker 24: of travel, as you say, and everything else that comes

2004
01:40:19,733 --> 01:40:23,133
Speaker 24: with it. Meantime, clubs are trying to survive. They still

2005
01:40:23,173 --> 01:40:26,413
Speaker 24: have to survive as clubs and provide the gear and

2006
01:40:26,453 --> 01:40:30,013
Speaker 24: the infrastructure and the administration of all of that stuff.

2007
01:40:30,053 --> 01:40:33,413
Speaker 24: So they can't just not charge. Well, they could, but

2008
01:40:33,413 --> 01:40:35,573
Speaker 24: they'd find a way to fill that revenue gap. So

2009
01:40:36,213 --> 01:40:39,613
Speaker 24: the great tension between the two is I think, anyway,

2010
01:40:39,733 --> 01:40:42,493
Speaker 24: a real threat to the part that sport plays in

2011
01:40:42,493 --> 01:40:45,333
Speaker 24: our communities, which we all know, Jack, it's so so key,

2012
01:40:45,413 --> 01:40:47,813
Speaker 24: So you want to chat about that after mid day.

2013
01:40:47,853 --> 01:40:49,573
Speaker 24: Got to got a sort of an expert on these

2014
01:40:49,573 --> 01:40:51,853
Speaker 24: things after mid day. But really it's the real life

2015
01:40:51,853 --> 01:40:54,453
Speaker 24: experiences that I think will be most telling.

2016
01:40:54,213 --> 01:40:56,053
Speaker 2: So wonderful. I wonder if Tiger will be out of

2017
01:40:56,093 --> 01:40:57,813
Speaker 2: jail by the Tiger OFFEA this afternoon.

2018
01:40:57,853 --> 01:41:00,333
Speaker 24: And just it's like we're living and we're living in

2019
01:41:00,333 --> 01:41:01,413
Speaker 24: funny old times, aren't.

2020
01:41:01,253 --> 01:41:04,813
Speaker 2: We may say, yeah, crazy the third car accident is it?

2021
01:41:04,973 --> 01:41:05,173
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2022
01:41:05,213 --> 01:41:07,413
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're obviously going to keep our eye on that

2023
01:41:07,453 --> 01:41:09,493
Speaker 2: situation as well as it unfolds. Thank you very much, sir,

2024
01:41:09,533 --> 01:41:11,933
Speaker 2: looking forward to this afternoon. Thanks Jack. Jason Pine with

2025
01:41:12,053 --> 01:41:13,773
Speaker 2: us for weekend support. Who'll be here right after the

2026
01:41:13,773 --> 01:41:16,733
Speaker 2: midday news on News talks 'd be before midday Robin's

2027
01:41:16,813 --> 01:41:19,293
Speaker 2: brand new album sex Estential. And next up, we've got

2028
01:41:19,293 --> 01:41:20,493
Speaker 2: your book picks for this weekend.

2029
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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack tame fulk Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2030
01:41:27,253 --> 01:41:28,693
Speaker 1: powered by newstalks 'b.

2031
01:41:29,893 --> 01:41:31,853
Speaker 2: Twenty three to twelve. Time to get your book picks

2032
01:41:31,853 --> 01:41:34,973
Speaker 2: for this weekend. Catherine Rains, our book reviewer, is here

2033
01:41:35,133 --> 01:41:38,573
Speaker 2: with us this morning. Calder Catherine, Morning Jack. Let's begin

2034
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Speaker 2: with the Truth about Ruby Cooper by Liz Nugent.

2035
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Speaker 15: So this is about a family who are living in

2036
01:41:45,333 --> 01:41:48,573
Speaker 15: Boston and the US and living the American dream. Things

2037
01:41:48,573 --> 01:41:52,453
Speaker 15: are really good. Our daughters Erin and Ruby really don't

2038
01:41:52,493 --> 01:41:56,253
Speaker 15: want or need anything. Their pastor mother and pastor father

2039
01:41:56,373 --> 01:42:00,373
Speaker 15: and mother love them dearly. But Ruby feels quite different

2040
01:42:00,373 --> 01:42:03,133
Speaker 15: from her sister. She feels a little less loved because

2041
01:42:03,213 --> 01:42:06,093
Speaker 15: in her eyes, her sister is smarter and more beautiful.

2042
01:42:06,733 --> 01:42:09,213
Speaker 15: And then, at the age of sixteen and nineteen ninety nine,

2043
01:42:09,373 --> 01:42:12,613
Speaker 15: Ruby is involved in this terrible incident and the family

2044
01:42:13,413 --> 01:42:18,933
Speaker 15: fractures and becomes almost irreparable. And Ruby is with her

2045
01:42:18,973 --> 01:42:21,613
Speaker 15: Irish mother in Dublin and Aaron stays in Boston with

2046
01:42:21,653 --> 01:42:25,333
Speaker 15: their father, and as the years go by, the depths

2047
01:42:25,333 --> 01:42:28,653
Speaker 15: of their fractures get worse, and Ruby really buries her

2048
01:42:28,733 --> 01:42:31,653
Speaker 15: head and from truth and reality as the ramifications of

2049
01:42:31,653 --> 01:42:34,653
Speaker 15: the incident become more intense, and the style of this

2050
01:42:34,773 --> 01:42:37,573
Speaker 15: novel really draws you in and you get these different

2051
01:42:37,613 --> 01:42:40,053
Speaker 15: first person accounts over the years, and all of these

2052
01:42:40,133 --> 01:42:43,813
Speaker 15: characters feel like speaking to you, and the plot and

2053
01:42:43,853 --> 01:42:47,253
Speaker 15: the storytelling is quite emotional, and there's just all sorts

2054
01:42:47,293 --> 01:42:49,973
Speaker 15: of things that happen along the way and completely unexpected

2055
01:42:50,013 --> 01:42:51,813
Speaker 15: and not really where you think the story is going

2056
01:42:51,853 --> 01:42:54,893
Speaker 15: to go. And it's all about really how human emotions

2057
01:42:55,173 --> 01:42:58,013
Speaker 15: can lead you and dictate future behaviors. And there's some

2058
01:42:58,053 --> 01:43:02,053
Speaker 15: tough themes in here, and there's individual perceptions and delusions

2059
01:43:02,093 --> 01:43:04,773
Speaker 15: and things change and uncover as you go. But if

2060
01:43:04,773 --> 01:43:07,533
Speaker 15: you like a good psychological thrill, I think this is

2061
01:43:07,573 --> 01:43:08,133
Speaker 15: the one for you.

2062
01:43:08,253 --> 01:43:11,373
Speaker 2: Oh very good. Okay. So The Truth about Ruby Cooper

2063
01:43:11,533 --> 01:43:15,013
Speaker 2: is by Liz NuGen. Mixed up Battle of the Arctic

2064
01:43:15,093 --> 01:43:16,773
Speaker 2: by Hugh so bag Montefiore.

2065
01:43:18,213 --> 01:43:21,413
Speaker 15: This is a really well researched World War II history

2066
01:43:22,013 --> 01:43:24,973
Speaker 15: and it's the account of the experience of the Arctic convoys.

2067
01:43:25,013 --> 01:43:28,773
Speaker 15: And it's not really about what was happening politically or economically,

2068
01:43:28,933 --> 01:43:32,253
Speaker 15: or you know, strategically what was happening, but about the

2069
01:43:32,293 --> 01:43:35,613
Speaker 15: soldiers and what happened to them in their first convoys

2070
01:43:36,093 --> 01:43:39,173
Speaker 15: to Russia. And it starts in August nineteen forty one

2071
01:43:39,453 --> 01:43:41,933
Speaker 15: and goes through all of these convoys until sort of

2072
01:43:41,933 --> 01:43:45,493
Speaker 15: March April nineteen forty five, and it cave as some

2073
01:43:45,613 --> 01:43:48,853
Speaker 15: of the really notable actions that happened. There was a

2074
01:43:48,893 --> 01:43:52,533
Speaker 15: destruction of the convoy PQ seventeen in June July nineteen

2075
01:43:52,653 --> 01:43:55,413
Speaker 15: forty two, and he goes into a lot of detail

2076
01:43:55,413 --> 01:43:58,413
Speaker 15: about that, but he also draws on these really a

2077
01:43:58,453 --> 01:44:01,733
Speaker 15: different official and unofficial sources that not a lot of

2078
01:44:01,813 --> 01:44:04,853
Speaker 15: people have consulted before, and so watched the Norwegian and

2079
01:44:04,933 --> 01:44:08,493
Speaker 15: Russian and German and American matim apart from the familiar

2080
01:44:08,493 --> 01:44:13,213
Speaker 15: sort of British accounts about this time, and it's just fascinating.

2081
01:44:13,253 --> 01:44:18,093
Speaker 15: These merchants, seafarers and these appalling Arctic climate and conditions,

2082
01:44:18,133 --> 01:44:21,333
Speaker 15: and it's what comes through is the relentless horror of it.

2083
01:44:21,533 --> 01:44:25,373
Speaker 15: And there's lots of testimonies from people from survivors and

2084
01:44:25,413 --> 01:44:28,213
Speaker 15: the effects of what happened to them, like frostbite and

2085
01:44:28,253 --> 01:44:32,253
Speaker 15: the casualties from sinkings, and what the man's hospital was

2086
01:44:32,413 --> 01:44:34,773
Speaker 15: like with you know, lack of hygiene and painkillers or

2087
01:44:34,813 --> 01:44:38,013
Speaker 15: even a clean bandage. And he tells the story of

2088
01:44:38,053 --> 01:44:42,013
Speaker 15: these accounts of these survivors on merchant ships who had

2089
01:44:42,133 --> 01:44:45,573
Speaker 15: ended up being dispatched from Iceland and the political pressure

2090
01:44:45,573 --> 01:44:47,933
Speaker 15: and what happens to them to resume their supplies to

2091
01:44:47,973 --> 01:44:51,893
Speaker 15: the Soviet Union, and it's really what comes through is

2092
01:44:52,053 --> 01:44:55,893
Speaker 15: just how hard life was for these guys and the

2093
01:44:55,933 --> 01:44:59,373
Speaker 15: Soviet Union wasn't particularly hospitable. You know, the locals shunned them,

2094
01:44:59,373 --> 01:45:01,773
Speaker 15: and there was violence and arrest and the medical care

2095
01:45:01,893 --> 01:45:05,493
Speaker 15: and these isolated communities and just you know, that extreme

2096
01:45:05,693 --> 01:45:07,733
Speaker 15: condition of the It kind of keeps playing on your

2097
01:45:07,773 --> 01:45:10,413
Speaker 15: mind and the fates of these soldiers and it's just

2098
01:45:10,493 --> 01:45:12,973
Speaker 15: it's a really interesting look at that actic campaign.

2099
01:45:13,413 --> 01:45:17,813
Speaker 2: It just sounds so grim.

2100
01:45:16,253 --> 01:45:19,733
Speaker 15: Very grim, yeah, very very cold, And I mean that

2101
01:45:19,773 --> 01:45:22,573
Speaker 15: you think now when we sort of head off and people,

2102
01:45:22,613 --> 01:45:24,053
Speaker 15: you know, head to the ice and stuff. You know,

2103
01:45:24,413 --> 01:45:26,373
Speaker 15: the kinds of equipment, of the kind of gear that

2104
01:45:26,453 --> 01:45:28,333
Speaker 15: we have is just so different.

2105
01:45:28,373 --> 01:45:28,533
Speaker 13: You know.

2106
01:45:28,613 --> 01:45:32,613
Speaker 15: In nineteen forty it must have been horrific and these

2107
01:45:32,613 --> 01:45:35,773
Speaker 15: guys often had no experience of these conditions, just didn't

2108
01:45:35,773 --> 01:45:36,093
Speaker 15: know what.

2109
01:45:36,093 --> 01:45:38,213
Speaker 2: To ex Yeah, of course, yeah, it's not like it's

2110
01:45:38,213 --> 01:45:40,333
Speaker 2: not like today. So my question for you is who

2111
01:45:40,373 --> 01:45:42,773
Speaker 2: has the better name? Do we think because we've had

2112
01:45:42,933 --> 01:45:46,653
Speaker 2: we've had Hugh sebag montefiuree on before with with a

2113
01:45:46,693 --> 01:45:49,733
Speaker 2: couple of his other works. But then you've got Ranolph

2114
01:45:49,733 --> 01:45:52,853
Speaker 2: Fines as well, who I think is what Saran sirandof

2115
01:45:52,933 --> 01:45:57,813
Speaker 2: Twistled and Wickenham Fines third Baronet Obe, which is not

2116
01:45:57,893 --> 01:46:01,093
Speaker 2: bad either. Just when you know Jack Tame, when your

2117
01:46:01,133 --> 01:46:03,053
Speaker 2: name is Jack Chane, When you name 's two syllables

2118
01:46:03,093 --> 01:46:05,333
Speaker 2: and that's it, and one of them is half of

2119
01:46:05,333 --> 01:46:07,693
Speaker 2: your name is the word, it's hard not to look

2120
01:46:07,733 --> 01:46:09,253
Speaker 2: at the name like that and feel just a little

2121
01:46:09,573 --> 01:46:10,653
Speaker 2: sliver of envy. You know.

2122
01:46:11,453 --> 01:46:13,533
Speaker 15: I think I'd have to go with Ranolf Finest.

2123
01:46:13,773 --> 01:46:15,453
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's pretty.

2124
01:46:15,173 --> 01:46:17,653
Speaker 2: Good, That's not bad. Hugh's the bag Monteforre is not

2125
01:46:17,693 --> 01:46:19,813
Speaker 2: a bad second though, so his latest book is Battle

2126
01:46:19,813 --> 01:46:22,533
Speaker 2: of the Arctic. Catherine's first pick for us this week

2127
01:46:22,573 --> 01:46:25,773
Speaker 2: The Truth About Ruby Cooper by Las Nugent. Both of

2128
01:46:25,813 --> 01:46:27,973
Speaker 2: those will be up on the news talks eb website.

2129
01:46:28,053 --> 01:46:30,653
Speaker 2: Very excited we got new music, the brand new album

2130
01:46:30,693 --> 01:46:32,013
Speaker 2: from Robin for you.

2131
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Speaker 5: Next inside Scoop on All You Need to Know Saturday

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Speaker 5: morning with Jack Dame News Talks.

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Speaker 8: It be.

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Speaker 25: Sim Me Baby.

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Speaker 2: This is Robin the songs called talk to Me. It's

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Speaker 2: from Sexistential, her first album in eight years. Hotly anticipated.

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Speaker 2: Music reviewer Chris Schultz is with us this morning. He's

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Speaker 2: been listening.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, sure to Jack.

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Speaker 26: I'm very happy to be talking about Robin with you today,

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Speaker 26: right Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, do you know what you know how

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Speaker 2: they say that the music you listen to in those

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Speaker 2: kind of formative years from the time you're about seventeen

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Speaker 2: to the time you're twenty five, is the music you

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Speaker 2: will listen to for the rest of your life. I

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Speaker 2: just I still go back and listen to Body Talk.

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Speaker 2: You know, Robin's Body Talk that amazing. It was like

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Speaker 2: twenty ten, twenty eleven, maybe that album was She's just

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Speaker 2: it's just an absolutle classic.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it so is, but she had already had a

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Speaker 14: career up to that point.

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Speaker 26: They really tried to turn her into this like Britney

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Speaker 26: Spears style, like a real kind of you know, over

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Speaker 26: sex sort of teenage type, yeah.

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Speaker 14: Musician, and it didn't work. She rejected at all.

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Speaker 26: I read this incredible interview with her in The New

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Speaker 26: Yorker recently and it sort of said she threw a

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Speaker 26: tantrum in America and just went, no, that's not for me.

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Speaker 26: I'm going to do this my way or I'm not

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Speaker 26: going to do it at all. And that's why we

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Speaker 26: ended up with that album, and that's why we've ended

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Speaker 26: up with this new album yesterday.

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Speaker 14: Sex Estentials. Yeah, a great title for an album.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I was going to say, give it, given

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Speaker 2: what the record company tried to turn her into once

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Speaker 2: upon a time, what does sexistential achieve?

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Speaker 14: It's her version of that.

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Speaker 25: Right.

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Speaker 26: She's forty four now, she is a single mum, she's

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Speaker 26: got a four year old at home. She did IVF

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Speaker 26: during COVID. She was actually trying to do it in

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Speaker 26: America and called a flight to Sweden and that's when

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Speaker 26: lockdowns happened and she couldn't get back to continue the

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Speaker 26: treatment start it all over again in Sweden, and that's

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Speaker 26: where this album came from. So it's her doing that

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Speaker 26: dancing on my own thing in nine different ways. There's

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Speaker 26: nine songs on this album and she's sort of repeating

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Speaker 26: that trick. These songs are about like loneliness and about

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Speaker 26: raising a kid on your own, but still wanting connections,

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Speaker 26: still wanting love, still wanting a chin.

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Speaker 14: And they're bangers. These are these are just euphoric classics.

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Speaker 26: Honestly, I've been listening to this since it came out

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Speaker 26: yesterday and it is the It's the best pop album

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Speaker 26: easily this year. So it's been a rough year for pop.

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Speaker 26: I think, yeah, you know, Harry Styles album is probably

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Speaker 26: the best we've had it And even that reaction was

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Speaker 26: a little muted, it felt like a very vibes the album.

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Speaker 26: Bruno Mars didn't quite land it with his album, and

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Speaker 26: Jack Harlowe made an awful R and B album that

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Speaker 26: we shouldn't even mention. But but this is going to

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Speaker 26: be I think this is this is like she got

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Speaker 26: in the studio with daft Punk and decided to make

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Speaker 26: nine like instant classics.

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Speaker 14: I love this album, it just has this pulse to it,

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Speaker 14: this heartbeat.

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Speaker 26: It feels alive, like you're you're standing in the middle

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Speaker 26: of a dance floor and she's whispering like really personal

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Speaker 26: intimate thoughts since your ears. It somehow manages to do

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Speaker 26: that to be huge and euphoric and powerful and can

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Speaker 26: still be really intimate. It's a really clever trick that

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Speaker 26: she's nailed.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. So I think her last album

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Speaker 2: was Honey, right, which was it kind of so if

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Speaker 2: you go back to body Talk, which was twenty ten,

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Speaker 2: I've just double checked it. That was that had that

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Speaker 2: real kind of edgy, electronic sound to it, and then

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Speaker 2: her last album, Honey kind of took away some of

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Speaker 2: that edge. It was a bit softer, still kind of

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Speaker 2: a bit of a housey vibe to it. Where does

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Speaker 2: this sit on the continuum? Do you think does she

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Speaker 2: have that kind of that that edginess that she had.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a strange album.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's.

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Speaker 2: Good about her, that she is a bit strange. That's

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Speaker 2: the thing that is interesting about her.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, there's a there's a song on here.

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Speaker 26: The title track is a is a rap song about

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Speaker 26: breastfeeding your child while scrolling dating apps. That's how strange

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Speaker 26: this is.

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Speaker 14: But that's what makes it special. You're right.

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Speaker 26: It's the most Robin album I think she's ever made.

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Speaker 26: It feels the most her, and it also fits in,

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Speaker 26: I think with those albums that we've all loved recently,

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Speaker 26: you know, the Charlie c Ex Brat the Lord Virgin.

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Speaker 26: It's so raw and just it's unfiltered. Like you know,

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Speaker 26: you look at those big pop albums by like Sabrina

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Speaker 26: Carpenter or Katy Perry or whatever, and there are like

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Speaker 26: ten or twelve or fifteen different producers, you know, they

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Speaker 26: work with all of these different songwriters. And this is

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Speaker 26: this Robin in the studio with the same person that

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Speaker 26: she wrote Body Talk with and most of her records with.

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Speaker 26: It's just the two of them. It's and I think

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Speaker 26: that's why it's special. It's her on her urns, doing

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Speaker 26: what she wants to do and expressing herself in her way,

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Speaker 26: and it's genius.

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Speaker 14: It's just brilliant.

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Speaker 2: I'm so pleased to hear that. There's honestly made my day.

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Speaker 2: I've like carved out some time I'm planned just to

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Speaker 2: sit down and listen to it end to end so

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Speaker 2: very much looking forward to sex Estential. Have you given

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Speaker 2: it a rating for us this morning? Chris.

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Speaker 26: Look, I've only this for a day. I'm going to

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Speaker 26: go out here and say this is going to be

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Speaker 26: the pop album, the pop experience of the year.

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Speaker 14: I'm going to go to five stars so good.

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Speaker 26: The Stars are not coming to New Zealand. She's playing

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Speaker 26: Australia in November. I do know people who are going

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Speaker 26: to those shows. Yeah, yeah, it'll be special. It's a

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Speaker 26: shame she's not coming here. But we've got the album

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Speaker 26: and the album.

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Speaker 2: Was great, fantastic, all right. Sex Essential is the album.

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Speaker 2: Robins the artist. You can hear more from Cress of

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Speaker 2: course on his sub stack Boiler Room, and we will

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Speaker 2: have a bit more of a listen to Robin in

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 5: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 2: going to leave you though with Robin. Her brand new

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Speaker 2: album is Sex Essential. This song is called Dopamine and

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Speaker 2: I will see you next Saturday morning. Have a great week.

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Speaker 12: Don't do on a chemistry, don't doom.

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Speaker 27: The sand as the stains.

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Speaker 12: Close, don't botop dope dope, dope, dope dope, sweep doom doom, dooms,

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Speaker 12: sweat stop, do stop doob I don't still but it met.

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Speaker 27: Says just no me, but I so wait to me.

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Speaker 21: Those just started to.

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Speaker 27: Go kill him up. That has gone me. Women, strumo

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Speaker 27: names don't for me. Life is so me tripping on

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Speaker 27: a chemistry. It's farving. Nothing said at me. Don't but

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Speaker 27: if they're so with me, but if that's going.

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Speaker 23: Don't.

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