1 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:12,693 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow 2 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:16,373 Speaker 1: this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,613 --> 00:00:19,453 Speaker 2: Because it's our last week, we're introducing a new segment 4 00:00:19,493 --> 00:00:23,293 Speaker 2: for this week only Great New Zealanders of Christmas series, 5 00:00:23,533 --> 00:00:28,613 Speaker 2: and today we are delighted to welcome and Die Hendward, comedian, author, 6 00:00:28,813 --> 00:00:32,653 Speaker 2: documentary maker and all around goodkey. We get a die, 7 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:33,653 Speaker 2: Yeah Die? 8 00:00:33,693 --> 00:00:37,373 Speaker 3: How did you guys beat Olympians, international rugby players, politicians 9 00:00:37,373 --> 00:00:40,333 Speaker 3: and warriors in the six hole Ambrose format at the 10 00:00:40,412 --> 00:00:43,613 Speaker 3: Royal Auckland and the Grange Golf Club. How the hell 11 00:00:43,653 --> 00:00:44,492 Speaker 3: did you win that one? 12 00:00:44,573 --> 00:00:44,973 Speaker 4: Die? 13 00:00:45,772 --> 00:00:46,013 Speaker 5: Well? 14 00:00:46,053 --> 00:00:50,772 Speaker 4: We were you say that the politicians would be easy beats, 15 00:00:50,772 --> 00:00:53,412 Speaker 4: but they were the team we were directly up against, 16 00:00:53,693 --> 00:00:57,173 Speaker 4: and we had politicians from all over the political spectrum, 17 00:00:57,453 --> 00:01:02,893 Speaker 4: from right to far right. We had John Key, David 18 00:01:02,893 --> 00:01:07,773 Speaker 4: Seymour and Max Key. John Key and Max lovely guys. 19 00:01:07,933 --> 00:01:13,932 Speaker 4: And for nominal golfers David Seymour. I was really intrigued 20 00:01:13,973 --> 00:01:16,493 Speaker 4: just to see how he swings at golf club and 21 00:01:16,572 --> 00:01:19,253 Speaker 4: having having done dancing with the start of him. He 22 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:24,773 Speaker 4: was surprisingly more fluid than I was expecting. But basically 23 00:01:25,773 --> 00:01:30,413 Speaker 4: what we did is Jeremy Wells myself combined our powers, 24 00:01:30,652 --> 00:01:33,212 Speaker 4: threw them away and let Mark Richardson do all. 25 00:01:36,133 --> 00:01:40,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something about an international sports person that makes 26 00:01:40,893 --> 00:01:43,173 Speaker 3: him very good at golf as well. No matter who 27 00:01:43,212 --> 00:01:45,092 Speaker 3: you are, you can be a funny guy that you are, 28 00:01:45,212 --> 00:01:48,293 Speaker 3: You can be you know, the sort of zombie that 29 00:01:48,293 --> 00:01:52,413 Speaker 3: sits beside Hillary Barry on a couch somewhere. But when 30 00:01:52,413 --> 00:01:57,493 Speaker 3: it comes to sports, they cross code, don't they. 31 00:01:58,333 --> 00:02:04,653 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely they, especially the cricketers and okay, sports sports 32 00:02:04,693 --> 00:02:10,413 Speaker 4: people really that ingrain competitive streak sinks in. You know, 33 00:02:10,613 --> 00:02:13,733 Speaker 4: like Mark Richardson had had a bit of a lot 34 00:02:13,773 --> 00:02:16,413 Speaker 4: of shaker off the tee, but he hit it out 35 00:02:16,413 --> 00:02:19,973 Speaker 4: of bounds and then he just dialed in and didn't 36 00:02:20,013 --> 00:02:23,773 Speaker 4: have a bad shot after that. Whereas I got there early, 37 00:02:23,893 --> 00:02:26,493 Speaker 4: I I was looking for Jerry. He was on the 38 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:31,613 Speaker 4: range and you'd know this, Matt. I thought Jerry was 39 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:35,972 Speaker 4: a very stiff mid sixties man when I saw him 40 00:02:35,972 --> 00:02:40,412 Speaker 4: from afar, He's got a very stiff gate about him. 41 00:02:40,693 --> 00:02:43,453 Speaker 4: And then up close I saw him and he was 42 00:02:43,532 --> 00:02:47,173 Speaker 4: really warming up and he played some amazing golf. So 43 00:02:48,093 --> 00:02:51,013 Speaker 4: I'd say I didn't let the team down, but I 44 00:02:51,053 --> 00:02:52,333 Speaker 4: was very much the vibe guy. 45 00:02:53,252 --> 00:02:55,852 Speaker 3: But did Jeremy have some drinks on the course. 46 00:02:56,733 --> 00:03:01,853 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was running quite a timed operation on it 47 00:03:01,893 --> 00:03:05,333 Speaker 4: as well. His caddy was mainly trying to keep I 48 00:03:05,373 --> 00:03:09,293 Speaker 4: think between point six and point eight on the breast 49 00:03:09,293 --> 00:03:12,893 Speaker 4: the entire time. He wasn't concerned about clubs. He was 50 00:03:12,972 --> 00:03:16,053 Speaker 4: concerned about Okay, we go two beers, then a hole off, 51 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:19,653 Speaker 4: then one more beer. Is keeping him at a at 52 00:03:19,693 --> 00:03:20,653 Speaker 4: a perfect level. 53 00:03:20,893 --> 00:03:23,412 Speaker 2: And how it worked, Yeah, you won? Who had the 54 00:03:23,493 --> 00:03:24,053 Speaker 2: drive power? 55 00:03:24,133 --> 00:03:24,293 Speaker 1: Die? 56 00:03:24,373 --> 00:03:26,133 Speaker 2: I take it you would have taken that on. You know, 57 00:03:26,252 --> 00:03:28,572 Speaker 2: Jerry's got the reach, but you're a powerful man. 58 00:03:29,453 --> 00:03:33,213 Speaker 4: Oh. That that's the thing. I I have sort of 59 00:03:34,133 --> 00:03:37,453 Speaker 4: quite a buff winning the Pooh type pH zeke and 60 00:03:38,413 --> 00:03:41,413 Speaker 4: I a low center of gravity, but I can really 61 00:03:41,453 --> 00:03:43,773 Speaker 4: smack it. And the best thing is a lot of 62 00:03:43,773 --> 00:03:48,013 Speaker 4: the people standing around the te box they weren't They 63 00:03:48,053 --> 00:03:50,533 Speaker 4: didn't know a lot about golf, so all they cared 64 00:03:50,693 --> 00:03:54,053 Speaker 4: was if you hit the leather off it. So I 65 00:03:54,173 --> 00:03:56,453 Speaker 4: hit my one of my drives, I think, a couple 66 00:03:56,453 --> 00:04:01,693 Speaker 4: of holes over over an entire forest of trees, and 67 00:04:01,733 --> 00:04:04,333 Speaker 4: they probably got the biggest applause of the whole afternoon. 68 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:08,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, no one, kids, estraighted as and like when he 69 00:04:08,413 --> 00:04:10,213 Speaker 3: the Pooh you play with no pants on as well? 70 00:04:10,373 --> 00:04:12,773 Speaker 3: Hey ya, Die, what was your highlight for What was 71 00:04:13,693 --> 00:04:16,133 Speaker 3: highlight for you in twenty twenty four? Die? 72 00:04:16,613 --> 00:04:18,773 Speaker 4: I like for me in twenty twenty four, I'd have 73 00:04:18,853 --> 00:04:23,452 Speaker 4: to say was making this cancer documentary and putting a 74 00:04:23,453 --> 00:04:27,813 Speaker 4: book out because it was something that was obviously very 75 00:04:27,813 --> 00:04:31,773 Speaker 4: close to me. I'm still going through a journey with cancer, 76 00:04:32,053 --> 00:04:34,773 Speaker 4: but it was unlike sort of just making stuff that's 77 00:04:34,813 --> 00:04:38,853 Speaker 4: purely comedy, that's me talking rubbish. This actually has turned 78 00:04:38,853 --> 00:04:43,013 Speaker 4: out to become quite a poignant sort of cancer resource 79 00:04:43,093 --> 00:04:45,413 Speaker 4: for people who are on a similar trial or have 80 00:04:45,613 --> 00:04:48,573 Speaker 4: loved ones going through it. And the feedback and love 81 00:04:48,693 --> 00:04:52,173 Speaker 4: I've got from all sections in New Zealand has massively 82 00:04:52,733 --> 00:04:55,653 Speaker 4: helped me on my journey, and I have to say 83 00:04:55,693 --> 00:04:58,933 Speaker 4: it's the bit of work I'm most proud of. Well. 84 00:04:58,973 --> 00:05:02,973 Speaker 3: I can thoroughly recommend your book and that documentary. It's 85 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:07,373 Speaker 3: phenomenal stuff quality but will also rip your heart out. 86 00:05:08,453 --> 00:05:13,053 Speaker 4: Oh thanks mate, And yeah, it was so nice being 87 00:05:13,493 --> 00:05:16,853 Speaker 4: able to just get it out there. And also alongside 88 00:05:16,853 --> 00:05:19,493 Speaker 4: that just been traveling around New Zealand, going back to 89 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:22,733 Speaker 4: the old school routes because, as you said at the beginning, 90 00:05:22,813 --> 00:05:27,213 Speaker 4: media isn't an interesting situation. There's a few less TV 91 00:05:27,373 --> 00:05:30,213 Speaker 4: bits and bobs than I normally do. So I've been 92 00:05:30,213 --> 00:05:32,813 Speaker 4: doing a lot of live shows like the old days, 93 00:05:32,893 --> 00:05:34,213 Speaker 4: and it's been awesome. 94 00:05:34,453 --> 00:05:37,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, just on the feedback that you got, Die, I 95 00:05:37,693 --> 00:05:39,813 Speaker 2: imagine for a lot of families out there dealing with it, 96 00:05:39,813 --> 00:05:41,493 Speaker 2: it can be a bit of a lonely journey. Has 97 00:05:41,533 --> 00:05:44,613 Speaker 2: that been nice to you know, share your own journey 98 00:05:44,733 --> 00:05:47,053 Speaker 2: and get that feedback and say, hey, we're not alone 99 00:05:47,053 --> 00:05:49,573 Speaker 2: in this. We you know, there's other people that we 100 00:05:49,653 --> 00:05:51,213 Speaker 2: can learn in our own journey. 101 00:05:52,093 --> 00:05:56,613 Speaker 4: Oh, Bollie is so right, mate, because it's it's weirdly 102 00:05:56,853 --> 00:06:01,093 Speaker 4: is something that is a very lonely journey. However, so 103 00:06:01,253 --> 00:06:03,693 Speaker 4: many people are affected by it, you know, like it's 104 00:06:04,413 --> 00:06:08,293 Speaker 4: a disease that's everyone knows someone who's going through it. 105 00:06:08,453 --> 00:06:13,733 Speaker 4: And the best feedback I've had is wives of your 106 00:06:13,773 --> 00:06:17,813 Speaker 4: classic k WE males we're going through cancer. They don't 107 00:06:18,213 --> 00:06:21,773 Speaker 4: really talk about their feelings and why it's get in 108 00:06:21,813 --> 00:06:24,093 Speaker 4: touch with me going, hey, now I know what my 109 00:06:24,173 --> 00:06:27,253 Speaker 4: husband's going through because he keeps it tight lipped, he 110 00:06:27,413 --> 00:06:31,453 Speaker 4: keeps stoic, for me and the family, So being able 111 00:06:31,493 --> 00:06:34,693 Speaker 4: to provide a bit of understanding, and also every day 112 00:06:34,933 --> 00:06:37,573 Speaker 4: I'm getting emails from people all over the country and 113 00:06:38,533 --> 00:06:41,213 Speaker 4: it's amazing connecting with him so now, but I'm super 114 00:06:41,253 --> 00:06:41,773 Speaker 4: proud of that. 115 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:42,093 Speaker 2: Now. 116 00:06:42,373 --> 00:06:44,973 Speaker 3: You and I are big fans of philosophy. We punish 117 00:06:44,973 --> 00:06:47,693 Speaker 3: each other quite really with it. What piece of feedback 118 00:06:47,773 --> 00:06:50,053 Speaker 3: or advice has resonated most with you this year. 119 00:06:52,493 --> 00:06:53,093 Speaker 4: It's weird. 120 00:06:53,573 --> 00:06:57,573 Speaker 5: It's the piece of feedback that's always there and is 121 00:06:57,693 --> 00:07:02,533 Speaker 5: the hardest thing to do because every cancer patient goes 122 00:07:02,973 --> 00:07:06,333 Speaker 5: you know, the bit that you read that you passed. 123 00:07:05,933 --> 00:07:09,213 Speaker 4: On and then I'm trying to do is the living 124 00:07:09,413 --> 00:07:13,653 Speaker 4: at the moment bit, right, because with when you're going 125 00:07:13,693 --> 00:07:16,573 Speaker 4: through cancer treatment, say you're doing chemo every second week 126 00:07:16,693 --> 00:07:20,733 Speaker 4: or something, that week off when you actually feel vaguely 127 00:07:20,813 --> 00:07:25,173 Speaker 4: okay can feel like so such a long time. So 128 00:07:25,293 --> 00:07:28,213 Speaker 4: if you can just live in the moment, which is 129 00:07:28,293 --> 00:07:33,493 Speaker 4: the hardest thing, and my sort of piece advice for 130 00:07:33,813 --> 00:07:36,093 Speaker 4: trying to live in the moment is to sit down, 131 00:07:36,253 --> 00:07:39,933 Speaker 4: just close your eyes and try and hear every single 132 00:07:40,053 --> 00:07:42,773 Speaker 4: sound that you can. And that's really worked for me. 133 00:07:43,533 --> 00:07:45,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's something and it sounds tripe for 134 00:07:46,013 --> 00:07:48,413 Speaker 3: someone that isn't going through what you're going. But that's 135 00:07:48,493 --> 00:07:52,733 Speaker 3: that's just true for everyone and in everyone, because everyone's 136 00:07:52,773 --> 00:07:56,213 Speaker 3: everything's fine out, everything's everything's here for a short amount 137 00:07:56,253 --> 00:07:58,613 Speaker 3: of time, and so yeah, if you can take a 138 00:07:58,653 --> 00:08:02,253 Speaker 3: second to enjoy what is here, it's phenomenal. Hey. 139 00:08:02,253 --> 00:08:06,413 Speaker 4: Well, also just quickly, everyone everyone thinks of their time 140 00:08:06,493 --> 00:08:09,933 Speaker 4: on this planet in years, like in terms of I'm 141 00:08:09,933 --> 00:08:12,373 Speaker 4: on it for so many years. But if you do that, 142 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:14,853 Speaker 4: all you're comparing it to is the time you're not 143 00:08:14,973 --> 00:08:18,453 Speaker 4: on the planet, which is infinity. So it doesn't matter 144 00:08:18,493 --> 00:08:21,373 Speaker 4: if you're here for a short time or no matter 145 00:08:21,413 --> 00:08:24,493 Speaker 4: how long you're here, it's always a short time. Just 146 00:08:25,253 --> 00:08:27,053 Speaker 4: enjoyed today, that's all it matters. 147 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:28,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, she said. 148 00:08:28,853 --> 00:08:31,293 Speaker 3: So what does Christmas look like for the Henwood family. 149 00:08:31,933 --> 00:08:35,013 Speaker 4: Oh, it's a bit of a good looking Christmas. My 150 00:08:35,133 --> 00:08:39,732 Speaker 4: mom comes up from Wellington. She bases herself pee Har, 151 00:08:39,813 --> 00:08:43,453 Speaker 4: beautiful spot in west Auckland. My wife's family is sort 152 00:08:43,453 --> 00:08:46,852 Speaker 4: of west Auckland as well. So we just we just 153 00:08:47,252 --> 00:08:50,933 Speaker 4: trades our way through the wait Tuckertes, eating good food 154 00:08:50,973 --> 00:08:54,573 Speaker 4: and end up at it, end up about it, pee Har, 155 00:08:54,732 --> 00:08:57,772 Speaker 4: doing a find a little present unwrapping with the kids 156 00:08:58,533 --> 00:09:03,053 Speaker 4: and a big turkey feed. Then I inevitably I can't 157 00:09:03,093 --> 00:09:06,172 Speaker 4: stand Christmas pudding, so I just douse it with too 158 00:09:06,252 --> 00:09:09,013 Speaker 4: much brandy and try and burn the house down. 159 00:09:09,053 --> 00:09:09,973 Speaker 2: It's like a good dime you. 160 00:09:09,973 --> 00:09:10,653 Speaker 3: Got someone to plug? 161 00:09:10,732 --> 00:09:10,892 Speaker 5: Die? 162 00:09:10,973 --> 00:09:12,852 Speaker 3: Have you got somebody to plug tour next year? 163 00:09:12,852 --> 00:09:17,093 Speaker 4: I understand, Oh yeah, for next year. I've been trying 164 00:09:17,132 --> 00:09:19,053 Speaker 4: to do it to her, which has taken me so 165 00:09:19,213 --> 00:09:23,213 Speaker 4: long between cancer treatments. It's my die Hard show. You 166 00:09:23,333 --> 00:09:26,573 Speaker 4: saw bits and bobs of it in the in my 167 00:09:26,653 --> 00:09:30,532 Speaker 4: cancer documentary. And I'm going to Taranaki and apl with 168 00:09:30,612 --> 00:09:33,052 Speaker 4: the Hawks Bay. Actually I'm over in Hastings and down 169 00:09:33,132 --> 00:09:35,453 Speaker 4: at in the cargo and you can go to laugh 170 00:09:35,773 --> 00:09:38,132 Speaker 4: with die dot com for all the details. 171 00:09:38,612 --> 00:09:42,172 Speaker 3: Well, that leads nicely into the next question, Best Christmas movie, 172 00:09:42,173 --> 00:09:43,053 Speaker 3: Best Christmas song. 173 00:09:44,533 --> 00:09:50,533 Speaker 4: It's I mean, I've never been a big Christmas songs person. 174 00:09:50,892 --> 00:09:55,733 Speaker 4: For me, Merry Christmas brackets. I hope you don't fight 175 00:09:55,813 --> 00:10:00,012 Speaker 4: Tonight by the Ramones As a cracker of a June. 176 00:10:00,132 --> 00:10:03,493 Speaker 4: I love Pogue's fairy Tale of New York, which is 177 00:10:03,573 --> 00:10:06,373 Speaker 4: that's just that's the one to put on at the 178 00:10:06,453 --> 00:10:10,492 Speaker 4: end of Christmas whenever runs a bit sozzled and once 179 00:10:10,533 --> 00:10:12,772 Speaker 4: they have a single and listen to the words. And 180 00:10:13,093 --> 00:10:18,013 Speaker 4: the Christmas movie is the animated version of The Grinch 181 00:10:18,053 --> 00:10:22,653 Speaker 4: who came out twenty eighteen, and just my kids, both 182 00:10:22,653 --> 00:10:25,453 Speaker 4: of them loved it. And that's the one that we 183 00:10:25,573 --> 00:10:28,492 Speaker 4: tend to watch two or three times in the in 184 00:10:28,533 --> 00:10:31,293 Speaker 4: the lead up to Christmas, and it puts me in 185 00:10:31,333 --> 00:10:31,693 Speaker 4: the mood. 186 00:10:32,093 --> 00:10:34,053 Speaker 3: You like that one over the Gymas You like that 187 00:10:34,093 --> 00:10:36,252 Speaker 3: one over the Ron Howard Jim Carrey one. 188 00:10:37,132 --> 00:10:38,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 189 00:10:38,132 --> 00:10:41,973 Speaker 4: Actually I don't know. I never geled with the Jim 190 00:10:42,053 --> 00:10:43,333 Speaker 4: Carrey one. 191 00:10:44,252 --> 00:10:45,733 Speaker 3: Well I see both of them in the top ten 192 00:10:45,773 --> 00:10:50,252 Speaker 3: on Netflix. So people love the Grinch and but. 193 00:10:50,252 --> 00:10:57,493 Speaker 4: The state of the top ten on memph it's a 194 00:10:57,612 --> 00:10:58,252 Speaker 4: very good point. 195 00:11:00,892 --> 00:11:03,213 Speaker 3: Okay, finally you've got got a message for New Zealand 196 00:11:03,213 --> 00:11:04,252 Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five day. 197 00:11:05,333 --> 00:11:09,372 Speaker 4: Look, my message to the whole all of New Zealand, 198 00:11:09,372 --> 00:11:12,412 Speaker 4: and it needs to spread through the world, is we 199 00:11:12,492 --> 00:11:16,973 Speaker 4: need to bring a little bit more love to proceedings 200 00:11:17,252 --> 00:11:20,333 Speaker 4: and something I think we should all bring back the 201 00:11:20,533 --> 00:11:25,532 Speaker 4: civilized disagreement where you can just have a conversation with someone, 202 00:11:26,132 --> 00:11:28,533 Speaker 4: argue a point and then have a hug at the 203 00:11:28,612 --> 00:11:30,893 Speaker 4: end of it. We don't need to flame war each other. 204 00:11:31,213 --> 00:11:34,693 Speaker 4: Who cares if people believe different things. We can all 205 00:11:34,732 --> 00:11:39,093 Speaker 4: live under the same tent. And I mean I grew 206 00:11:39,173 --> 00:11:43,773 Speaker 4: up with My parents had friends on completely the opposite 207 00:11:43,773 --> 00:11:46,293 Speaker 4: side of the political spectrum, but they were best mates. 208 00:11:46,333 --> 00:11:49,573 Speaker 4: They'd have a few wines, have a spracking argument, and 209 00:11:49,612 --> 00:11:52,612 Speaker 4: then we'll be cooking bacon sandwiches together the next morning. 210 00:11:52,732 --> 00:11:56,693 Speaker 4: Love there so civilized disagreements. Bring them back and spread 211 00:11:56,732 --> 00:11:57,413 Speaker 4: a bit more love. 212 00:11:57,892 --> 00:11:59,893 Speaker 3: Bless you die. You're a great New Zealander. Thanks so 213 00:11:59,973 --> 00:12:02,053 Speaker 3: much for talking to us. Have a great Christmas and 214 00:12:02,132 --> 00:12:03,933 Speaker 3: look forward to hang out with you in twenty twenty five. 215 00:12:04,372 --> 00:12:06,653 Speaker 4: I love you all, celebrate well and take care 216 00:12:07,413 --> 00:12:10,013 Speaker 1: For more from us to set b listen live on 217 00:12:10,132 --> 00:12:13,093 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 218 00:12:13,132 --> 00:12:15,732 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.