1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Now it turns out one of the most frequently confiscated 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: items at airports is in fact batteries. At Auckland Airport alone, 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy are taken away every single day, 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: and by the end of a month they will sometimes 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: have ast as much as three supermarket trolleys full, which 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: are then donated to people who need them. Warwick is 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Civil Aviation Authority GM of Aviation Security and with. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: Us, Hey Warick, cure Heather, how are you? 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm well, thanks mate. Let's get the rules right. So 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: you cannot put the batteries into the check and luggage. 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: You can take them in the hand luggage, but you 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: have to keep them separated from each other. They cannot 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: touch each other. Is that correct? 14 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: By and large that's correct. So there's a range of rules, 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: but in general batteries need to go on carry on luggage. 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: As you've said, they need to be properly packed rather 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: than floating around loose in the bag. There is a 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: bit to it. The best thing for passengers to do 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: is get on our website Aviation dot govt NDZ and 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: that provides all the sort of rules that they to know. 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so do you think that the reason that you're 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: taking so many of them away is because we don't 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: know the rules. 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: A lot of it. I've got to say, though, passengers 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to learn the rules. So when they 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: check in, if they go to a you know, a 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: kiosk to check in, they are always asked the questions 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: do you have in your bag any of these things? 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: You know? Abc D You. 30 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: You don't read that? Do you read that? I don't 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: read that? 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: I do because but but I know the business. Being honest, 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: I probably didn't pay a lot of attention before I 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: actually work for CA, but it is important that passengers 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: pay attention. And of course, where there's not an automatic 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: check in chios, generally staff will ask that when people 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: check in their backs. 38 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Well maybe I have been asked maybe. 39 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Anyway, I think you probably have. 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Here's your chance. Tell us everything we're not allowed to take. 41 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: So really pretty much, I mean clearly, where you know, 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: explosive devices, weapons, all those sort of things, there are 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: no go. But if we're talking about batteries and so, 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: it's sort of we've got a security expectation, you know. 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: So that's around things that you would think are sort 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: of those terrorist type of threats, So obviously we're looking 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: for those and both checked in and carry on baggage. 48 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: But then, as you pointed out at the start of 49 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: this interview, a lot of our work ends up being 50 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: around batteries, and it's passengers just taking a range, whether 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: they be power banks, AA batteries, triple A batteries, C 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: cell batteries, D batteries, cigarette vapes, earbuds, you know, have 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: a battery system in there, and so people put them 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: in their in their holdstovee baggage or you know, their 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: check and baggage, and of course when we become aware 56 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: of it, for safety reasons, we need to take those out. 57 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: And if we talk about the safety reasons, it's really 58 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: because across the world at different times, some of these 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: items have overheated and then they've started a fire in 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: the hold of the aircraft and of course, once the 61 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: aircraft is in flight, no one can do anything about that. 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so somebody's reason why somebody's asked, E bike batteries, 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: what about them? But because they're rechargeable, you can't chuck 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: them in the check. 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: In a correct exactly, and because they are a big battery, 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: so they are a real risk and Actually, many of 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: the bike batteries for e bikes actually way too big 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: to even go in the cabin, so people who are 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: traveling overseas will have to either and carrying their bike 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: with them, either have to hire one when they get 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: to their place of arrival or buy a separate one. 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: Good to know. Hey, are you guys going to relax 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: or have a look at the rules around taking your 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: shoes off at the airport? 75 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: I mean, we're always mindful of what happens around the 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: world and different things. So actually we don't have a 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: rule in New Zealand around taking shoes off, a ruled 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: around taking boots off above the ankle, so people can 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: go through with shoes no problem, but ankles are a 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: little bit different. 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And are we going to read it because the 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: US is now you don't have to take your shoes 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: off at all, right, So are we going to look 84 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: at that again? 85 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: Like I say, we're always mindful of what's happening around 86 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: the world and reviewing the risk and then deciding whether 87 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: it's something that we should or should not be doing. 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: What is the risk? Do you think we're shoving knives 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 1: down there or something? 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: There is a risk? 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Aren't you scanning that out of us. We come through 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: the little scanner pe pep if there's a knife. 93 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the scan is an interesting bit of equipment. 94 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't scan below the skin, and so in effect, 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: if you're wearing a skin over the top of your ankle, 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: so boots, most of them are leather, which in effect 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: does animal skin, so it cannot see what's under there. 98 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: And of course there's a sizeable area in many boots 99 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: above the ankle, you know, right up to obviously boots 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: that a lot of women wear over winter. 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: Right, I've got a lot of the weapons work, some 102 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: some just hussies. 103 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: Some maybe I'm going back twenty odd year. 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but pretty woman stars. Hey, what about the liquids, 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: because I see the eusax the liquids rule. Are we 106 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: going to do the same thing? 107 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: Yep. So again that's a very interesting thing for us. 108 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: We're always keeping an eye on what's happening with the 109 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: rest of the world. We do have to have the 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: appropriate equipment for that. So there is a lot to it. 111 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: It's not a simple or we're just going to relax 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: the rules. We have to have the ride equipment that 113 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: enables us to safely screen our larger amounts of liquids. 114 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, hey Warwick, listen, thanks for talking us 115 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: through to appreciate it work. But I reckon, I reckon 116 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: Waricks from the from af SEC by the way, Civil 117 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: Aviation Authority. I reckon after this the number of batteries 118 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: confiscated and going to drop right off because now we know. 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 120 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 121 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.