1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from news Talk zed B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcast now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,853 --> 00:00:18,653 Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you. We are talking about this 4 00:00:18,733 --> 00:00:21,813 Speaker 2: Sky TV deal buying the three News brand, well not 5 00:00:21,893 --> 00:00:24,332 Speaker 2: the three News, but the three brand for one dollar 6 00:00:24,412 --> 00:00:28,013 Speaker 2: taking ownership Friday, August the first. It is a big 7 00:00:28,053 --> 00:00:30,533 Speaker 2: move in the media sphere. And keen to hear from 8 00:00:30,573 --> 00:00:32,453 Speaker 2: you on eight hundred and eighty teen eighty on whether 9 00:00:32,493 --> 00:00:35,293 Speaker 2: you still watch terrestrial TV and what this could. 10 00:00:35,093 --> 00:00:38,213 Speaker 3: Make Logan still does I still have a forty year 11 00:00:38,253 --> 00:00:42,053 Speaker 3: old national quintracks I still periodically use with a free 12 00:00:42,173 --> 00:00:45,613 Speaker 3: view receiver. Cannot do away with my TV, says Logan. 13 00:00:45,732 --> 00:00:48,893 Speaker 2: Good on your Logan right so standing by right now 14 00:00:49,213 --> 00:00:51,453 Speaker 2: we have Phil Smith. He is the owner of Great 15 00:00:51,492 --> 00:00:54,773 Speaker 2: Southern Television. He currently has right now shows on TV 16 00:00:54,813 --> 00:00:58,373 Speaker 2: and zd TV, three, Sky, Netflix and the BBC. So 17 00:00:58,613 --> 00:01:00,413 Speaker 2: a very very good person to chat to. 18 00:01:00,653 --> 00:01:00,973 Speaker 4: Phil. 19 00:01:01,413 --> 00:01:03,572 Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you, great to. 20 00:01:03,573 --> 00:01:05,373 Speaker 4: Chat, good aftertone. 21 00:01:05,373 --> 00:01:08,173 Speaker 3: How's it guarding fantastic? Is this a good move from 22 00:01:08,933 --> 00:01:11,733 Speaker 3: and what do they get out of taking over three? 23 00:01:12,613 --> 00:01:15,572 Speaker 4: Is this good news? Well? Tyler and Matt, I'll say 24 00:01:15,733 --> 00:01:17,893 Speaker 4: I was on Loching the last eight seconds of The 25 00:01:17,893 --> 00:01:23,973 Speaker 4: Warriors on Sunday night. So when I heard it, Yeah, 26 00:01:24,093 --> 00:01:26,652 Speaker 4: when I heard it this morning, I was thrilled, and 27 00:01:26,853 --> 00:01:30,653 Speaker 4: I was thrilled for basically, you know, the consolidation of 28 00:01:30,693 --> 00:01:33,493 Speaker 4: our media sector that's just had so much turmoil and 29 00:01:33,613 --> 00:01:37,372 Speaker 4: uncertainty and to see such a clever move being now 30 00:01:38,212 --> 00:01:40,932 Speaker 4: was just wonderful. But most of alls thrilled for the 31 00:01:41,013 --> 00:01:45,573 Speaker 4: viewer because you know, it's New Zealand. We've now got 32 00:01:45,613 --> 00:01:50,213 Speaker 4: two powerful New Zealand owned media companies. They're going to 33 00:01:50,253 --> 00:01:52,373 Speaker 4: go head to head, but it's going to be great, 34 00:01:52,533 --> 00:01:56,373 Speaker 4: great for content, and just that absolute certainty that TV 35 00:01:56,453 --> 00:01:59,573 Speaker 4: three is around to give great the great viewing experience 36 00:01:59,693 --> 00:02:02,333 Speaker 4: to key reviewers well into the future. 37 00:02:02,613 --> 00:02:04,573 Speaker 3: Now, all we've heard for years is how much TV 38 00:02:04,653 --> 00:02:07,613 Speaker 3: three is losing. How can Sky make money from them 39 00:02:07,733 --> 00:02:09,293 Speaker 3: if others have failed. 40 00:02:10,693 --> 00:02:15,373 Speaker 4: Well, it's actually not good. It's going to be a challenge, 41 00:02:15,373 --> 00:02:18,893 Speaker 4: but not that difficult because they can absorb so many 42 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:24,213 Speaker 4: costs into their system, their transmission costs, they're advertising sales costs. 43 00:02:24,413 --> 00:02:27,853 Speaker 4: They can bring so much together, so it really is 44 00:02:27,893 --> 00:02:32,773 Speaker 4: an absolutely natural marriage. Warner Brothers Discovery have delivered them 45 00:02:32,813 --> 00:02:37,933 Speaker 4: a palette of wonderful content and ongoing devils. It hasn't 46 00:02:37,972 --> 00:02:40,773 Speaker 4: been talked about, but it is the big three letter word, 47 00:02:40,773 --> 00:02:46,132 Speaker 4: which is HBO, which I imagine could be packaged into the steal, 48 00:02:46,813 --> 00:02:51,053 Speaker 4: but overall just just a deal of wonderful synergy. 49 00:02:51,693 --> 00:02:54,333 Speaker 3: And what does this mean for three and the people 50 00:02:54,532 --> 00:02:58,373 Speaker 3: that work there currently, Well, at. 51 00:02:58,252 --> 00:03:01,252 Speaker 4: The moment, like it's you can see that it's pretty 52 00:03:01,293 --> 00:03:04,653 Speaker 4: much steady as she goes because they're all complementary services. 53 00:03:04,733 --> 00:03:08,733 Speaker 4: So you've got you know, TV three and going to 54 00:03:08,773 --> 00:03:11,653 Speaker 4: continue as a three to wear it't three now which 55 00:03:11,893 --> 00:03:16,292 Speaker 4: has been increasing its audience significantly, and you know, the 56 00:03:16,333 --> 00:03:17,972 Speaker 4: team at three over the last year have done a 57 00:03:18,053 --> 00:03:22,173 Speaker 4: wonderful job. And then you've got Sky's supplementary service and 58 00:03:22,333 --> 00:03:27,213 Speaker 4: so overall the it's a broad template and so for 59 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:30,493 Speaker 4: Sky they've now got a really exciting offering to take 60 00:03:30,493 --> 00:03:32,013 Speaker 4: out the advertising market. 61 00:03:32,972 --> 00:03:36,333 Speaker 2: So clearly Sky backed themselves fail to have the resources 62 00:03:36,373 --> 00:03:38,933 Speaker 2: to take on TV and Z. That's that's long been 63 00:03:39,013 --> 00:03:42,973 Speaker 2: king in terrestrial TV in New Zealand. Part of what 64 00:03:43,013 --> 00:03:46,213 Speaker 2: was that You're saying Sky TV believes it's got the 65 00:03:46,253 --> 00:03:48,653 Speaker 2: resources to take on the likes of TV. 66 00:03:48,453 --> 00:03:53,253 Speaker 4: And Z absolutely well, Sky obviously been publicly listed and 67 00:03:53,853 --> 00:03:57,893 Speaker 4: you know, it's performed wonderfully over the last three years. 68 00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:01,973 Speaker 4: They have more than enough pash resources to ensure that 69 00:04:02,173 --> 00:04:05,613 Speaker 4: three carries on in its state and they build that 70 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:08,213 Speaker 4: brand and they can bring across a lot of their 71 00:04:08,853 --> 00:04:11,413 Speaker 4: their viewership, you know, in terms of you know, we 72 00:04:11,453 --> 00:04:13,093 Speaker 4: could have a Friday night with it's a bit of 73 00:04:13,173 --> 00:04:16,853 Speaker 4: rugby Saturday, a bit of rugby Sunday League match. So 74 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:20,613 Speaker 4: overall skuy can bring across a lot of its resources 75 00:04:20,973 --> 00:04:23,773 Speaker 4: and plug it into three. There will be an interesting 76 00:04:23,773 --> 00:04:28,093 Speaker 4: debate about what happens to meon and two three now, 77 00:04:28,293 --> 00:04:32,213 Speaker 4: But you know, one's an AVO which is advertising supported 78 00:04:32,253 --> 00:04:35,813 Speaker 4: which is what three dollars, and the other is obviously subscriber. 79 00:04:36,013 --> 00:04:38,893 Speaker 4: So at the moment, I think they'll remain different and 80 00:04:38,933 --> 00:04:41,533 Speaker 4: the viewers will be able to access both of them. 81 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:46,293 Speaker 4: But the Sky a really interesting package that they'll be 82 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:47,653 Speaker 4: able to take out to the market. 83 00:04:48,693 --> 00:04:51,653 Speaker 3: Now, you've made a lot of shows over the years 84 00:04:51,933 --> 00:04:54,893 Speaker 3: and you currently have got shows on three, You've got 85 00:04:54,973 --> 00:04:57,933 Speaker 3: TV and Z, Sky, BBC, Netflix. What does this mean 86 00:04:57,973 --> 00:05:02,013 Speaker 3: for the for the TV industry and from a production perspective, 87 00:05:02,013 --> 00:05:04,053 Speaker 3: will there be more shows made in New Zealand. 88 00:05:05,213 --> 00:05:08,693 Speaker 4: Well, I think Sophie Maloney today said that she's you know, 89 00:05:08,813 --> 00:05:12,173 Speaker 4: really strongly committed to the output of New Zealand content. 90 00:05:12,453 --> 00:05:16,013 Speaker 4: And you know Sky has been putting its toe in 91 00:05:16,013 --> 00:05:19,013 Speaker 4: the water in terms of neon and making local content. 92 00:05:19,853 --> 00:05:21,773 Speaker 4: You know, one downside you could say, well there's one 93 00:05:21,853 --> 00:05:24,653 Speaker 4: less media player in the market, but at the same 94 00:05:24,693 --> 00:05:27,533 Speaker 4: time that media player has now got a lot more 95 00:05:27,533 --> 00:05:32,013 Speaker 4: cash resource to to finance some fund local content. And 96 00:05:32,693 --> 00:05:36,173 Speaker 4: I think that you'll see you'll see both TV three 97 00:05:36,173 --> 00:05:39,933 Speaker 4: and Sky continuing on their programming paths in terms of 98 00:05:40,413 --> 00:05:42,933 Speaker 4: picking up local content and getting it out to the 99 00:05:43,013 --> 00:05:43,933 Speaker 4: news and audience. 100 00:05:44,733 --> 00:05:48,733 Speaker 3: And what's in it for me, Phil as a punter 101 00:05:48,893 --> 00:05:51,573 Speaker 3: sitting at home, sitting my fat ass down on my 102 00:05:51,613 --> 00:05:54,333 Speaker 3: couch and turning my TV on, what's in this for me? 103 00:05:55,853 --> 00:05:57,613 Speaker 4: Well, I think I think you're going to see a 104 00:05:57,653 --> 00:05:59,773 Speaker 4: better TV three. I think they're going to have a 105 00:05:59,773 --> 00:06:03,293 Speaker 4: lot more content available and therefore it's going to create 106 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:06,093 Speaker 4: more competition with TV and Z. I mean this is 107 00:06:06,213 --> 00:06:09,173 Speaker 4: a bit a sweet for TV and said today. You 108 00:06:09,213 --> 00:06:11,973 Speaker 4: know they've got obviously they want to have an active 109 00:06:12,053 --> 00:06:15,613 Speaker 4: market advertising market. So that's good for them because it's 110 00:06:15,653 --> 00:06:19,453 Speaker 4: competitive at the same time, they've now got a genuine competitor. 111 00:06:19,933 --> 00:06:22,293 Speaker 4: But for you, it means that you'll probably see better 112 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:25,893 Speaker 4: shows on three. You might see a bit of that 113 00:06:26,093 --> 00:06:29,373 Speaker 4: premium content on the leak across onto TV three. You'll 114 00:06:29,373 --> 00:06:32,893 Speaker 4: see better sport on TV three. They're committed to supporting 115 00:06:32,933 --> 00:06:36,293 Speaker 4: the news which stuff has done a great job over 116 00:06:36,893 --> 00:06:39,573 Speaker 4: the past year, you know, just keeping it on air, 117 00:06:39,613 --> 00:06:41,733 Speaker 4: and it is a tribute to everyone. It's three over 118 00:06:41,733 --> 00:06:44,493 Speaker 4: the last year that they have actually kept the place 119 00:06:44,613 --> 00:06:48,013 Speaker 4: going on a shoe string of about three hundred stuff 120 00:06:48,053 --> 00:06:50,573 Speaker 4: gone down to one hundred and thirty. So this is 121 00:06:50,573 --> 00:06:54,053 Speaker 4: a real victory day for them, and it just means, Matt, 122 00:06:54,133 --> 00:06:56,773 Speaker 4: you'll see I think you'll see better shows. I think 123 00:06:56,893 --> 00:07:01,333 Speaker 4: that the network will a bit more polished and you'll 124 00:07:01,373 --> 00:07:03,013 Speaker 4: still have a digital offerings. 125 00:07:03,213 --> 00:07:05,053 Speaker 3: Are they still in that leak or on Flower Street 126 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:06,013 Speaker 3: or have they moved out? 127 00:07:07,813 --> 00:07:11,893 Speaker 4: Well, you know, they've always been like the foster kid, 128 00:07:11,973 --> 00:07:15,133 Speaker 4: haven't they been. I think they're finally found a home, 129 00:07:15,413 --> 00:07:18,653 Speaker 4: you know, and for old TV three, you know, they 130 00:07:18,693 --> 00:07:22,373 Speaker 4: really are our pirates and our battlers and they do 131 00:07:22,413 --> 00:07:25,133 Speaker 4: a great job. But where they end up being housed 132 00:07:25,133 --> 00:07:27,253 Speaker 4: in the end. I mean, obviously they'll be part of 133 00:07:27,733 --> 00:07:30,253 Speaker 4: Sky's operation and they'll be housed Sumheerre at Sky. But 134 00:07:31,213 --> 00:07:33,253 Speaker 4: in the interim they are doing, they are out of 135 00:07:33,293 --> 00:07:37,453 Speaker 4: Flower Street. They're out of Flower Street on Friday. So 136 00:07:38,133 --> 00:07:41,973 Speaker 4: where they go, they'll they'll walk out and they have 137 00:07:42,173 --> 00:07:46,493 Speaker 4: got they have got officers in moving to for an 138 00:07:46,973 --> 00:07:49,533 Speaker 4: interim period, I believe in then I'd say that the 139 00:07:49,613 --> 00:07:51,093 Speaker 4: transition will begin. 140 00:07:51,373 --> 00:07:53,693 Speaker 3: Forty days in the nights and then they'll end up 141 00:07:53,693 --> 00:07:56,373 Speaker 3: out in Penrose probably. Hey, thank you so much. 142 00:07:57,493 --> 00:07:59,973 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the office is downtown as well, so 143 00:08:00,373 --> 00:08:04,213 Speaker 4: who knows they'll be they'll be juggling, but but yeah, 144 00:08:04,453 --> 00:08:07,453 Speaker 4: it's a home. It's good for viewers, and yeah, everyone's 145 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:08,173 Speaker 4: pretty excited. 146 00:08:08,693 --> 00:08:10,613 Speaker 2: Love it pel great to chat with you and get 147 00:08:10,653 --> 00:08:12,373 Speaker 2: your expertise. We'll catch up again soon. 148 00:08:13,093 --> 00:08:14,093 Speaker 4: Okay, cheers, guys. 149 00:08:14,133 --> 00:08:16,613 Speaker 2: That is thanks mate. 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