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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a player store news Dogs.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, Welcome to your Friday. At the

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Speaker 2: end of the week. It is the fifteenth of November.

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Speaker 2: Great to have your company. Just gone six alf to

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Speaker 2: five coming up on the show this morning, our lead

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Speaker 2: interview before six. Would you pay up to thirty dollars

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Speaker 2: to visit your national park? Yes, just walking in the

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Speaker 2: national Park, not even staying the night. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: A new proposal from the government. Chrispin Layson on the

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Speaker 2: shambles of Parliament yesterday and Vincent mcavney out of the UK.

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Speaker 3: The Agenda on the agenda this morning.

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Speaker 2: The US dollar continues soaring, heading two year highs, up

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Speaker 2: data out of China. Obviously it's been weeks, so that

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Speaker 2: is one to watch. Votes are being countered in Sri

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Speaker 4: He called a quick pause soon after the presidential in

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Speaker 2: Luxelin is en route to Peru. This is for Apec.

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Speaker 2: Police have been blocking off the entrance to mines, preventing

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Speaker 2: The monthly food prices down here in New Zealand point

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store.

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Speaker 3: News Talk Ziby.

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Speaker 2: In a second, I'll tell you how we can get

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Speaker 2: and potentially get three times as much energy out of

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Speaker 2: just want to run through the gist of what it means.

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Speaker 2: It could see us paying up to thirty dollars to

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Speaker 2: That's a third of our country. It's eight million hectares

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Speaker 2: three options on the table from the government. One compulsory charging,

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Speaker 2: This morning, ten after five.

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Speaker 6: Ryan Bridge, also James Bond, the producer of the Bond franchise,

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Speaker 1: Will be or as last get longer the first word

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be thirteen after five, news Talk said,

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Speaker 2: but labor was up. The Headliner's new poll shows labor

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Speaker 2: The government is funding further research into supercritical geothermal technology.

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Speaker 2: What is that, Well, it's like geothermal power generation, only

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Speaker 2: the work. Doctor Isabel chamber four is the lead geothermal

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Speaker 2: thanks for being with me. First of all, how deep

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Speaker 7: So actually not really done much deeper than your normal

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Speaker 7: And that is a lot more energy that we can

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much for that, Doctor Isabelle chamber

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Speaker 2: four with US Genius science lead for Geo Thermal. The

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be nineteen after five. Welcome to you

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Speaker 2: Friday for just joining us. The government is looking at

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Speaker 2: Willie Wright is National no longer? You know your party?

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Speaker 8: Well? The National Party is a liberal conservative party. That's

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Speaker 8: very proud of the traditions of Hanna McIntyre, Bulger Rave

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Speaker 2: Do you think Luxeon's made a mistake in I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, if the choices either get into government

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Speaker 8: I would have probably gone not.

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Speaker 8: The debate takes place against the backs of what I

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Speaker 8: but the behave with con certain limits in the House.

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Speaker 2: Are you still a member of the National Party?

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Speaker 8: I think I am.

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Speaker 2: Right, Kristin Lason, it was good to have you on

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Speaker 2: The political winners and losers from a bombastic day in

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Speaker 2: They have shrewdly led this debate for their base, from

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Speaker 2: of sorts, flying the coop to Peru turned out to

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Speaker 2: It passed, even if only the first reading. The biggest loser,

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Speaker 2: Parliament and Decorum, Barry Soper, on with Heather yesterday, said

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge twenty.

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Speaker 2: Charles Manson has admitted he's dead, but he's in tape

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, New Zealand, twenty four minutes away from six.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to News Talk zaid BE. Welcome to your Friday morning.

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Speaker 2: We've just had Chris Finlayson on the program for a

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Speaker 2: former treaty to go Siation's minister under Keys government. He

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Speaker 2: says Luxon should have called Seymour's bluff. He should have

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Speaker 2: Luxon didn't. He said the parties changed. That interview will

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Speaker 2: be up online at newstalksb dot co dot nz later

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Speaker 2: this morning, twenty three away from six. Now, I want

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Speaker 2: to take you to the United States. Matt Gates, the

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Speaker 2: been accused of sexual harassment, all kinds of stuff. Accused,

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Speaker 2: I should say, not convicted, accused. Anyway, what is Trump

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Speaker 2: playing at nominating a guy like that to be Attorney general?

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Speaker 2: This is from the Pennsylvania Senator, the Democrat John Fennman.

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Speaker 2: This is his view on Gates, who he says is

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Speaker 11: Of like a guard to kind of trolling just to

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Speaker 2: But really the.

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Speaker 11: Dam's opinions on Gates, that's not really what's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, to me.

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Speaker 11: It is interesting, is is gonna those are the good

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Speaker 11: voting for that.

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Speaker 3: Jerk off right and bread rich.

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Speaker 2: Michael Circles with us the Dunedin News this morning as

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Speaker 2: we check them with our reporters around the country. Michael,

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Speaker 2: the debate over McDonald's and Wanaka heading up.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, I mean this has got to be the

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Speaker 12: most controversial McDonald's in the country probably ever. This proposal

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Speaker 2: All right. How's the weather in d Needing today?

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Speaker 12: The rain turning to showers, this sprning, cloudy periods today,

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you, Michael. Shannon Johnstones with us with the

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Speaker 2: christ Church News this morning. Shannon the finishing touches going

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Speaker 2: on the famous christ Church Isaac Theatre Royal Gala show.

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Speaker 2: It's this Sunday, right, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 13: This Sunday's gala celebrates ten years since the theatre's rebuilt.

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Speaker 13: It'll showcase a prestigious lineup including Miriam Marghli's, Richard O'Brien,

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Speaker 13: coming back to life after the earthquakes and being somewhere

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Speaker 13: Cantabrians can be entertained. He says, it's a wonderful place,

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Speaker 13: thanks to everyone who comes through its doors.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. How's there? We a lot going on in christ

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Speaker 2: Church this week? What's happening with the weather today?

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Speaker 13: The weather cloud increasing in showers becoming persistent and heavier.

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Speaker 13: The Savo high of nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Shannon and Max's and Wellington. Hey Max? Who's

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Speaker 2: this prolific thief?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 14: Described in an article this morning as a property mogul

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Speaker 14: found almost three million dollars worth of stolen goods designer handbags, wine,

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Speaker 14: of a network of prolific thiefs. Thieves that stashed their

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Speaker 14: them already been sentenced. This was Soon's turn at the

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Speaker 2: It's me what a haul. How's the weather today, Max.

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Speaker 14: Rubbish rain this morning, windy as well, should be okay

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Speaker 14: by late evening. Some surface flood around as well, so

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Speaker 14: drive carefully. Seventeen the hay in the city.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant next, Thank you very much for that. Good to

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Speaker 2: see you. How did you know it was my birthday?

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Speaker 15: Is your Ryan Bridge's birthday tomorrow? But obviously you won't

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Speaker 15: be here, none of us will be here. So the

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Speaker 15: early edition Breakfast News team are here.

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Speaker 2: We don't know how old you are. We're celebrating it today.

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Speaker 2: How old do you think? Let's play guessing?

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Speaker 15: Okay, okay, Andrew Orderson, come on, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: No older than fifty, No older than fifty thirty seven

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Speaker 2: is how old? I'm seven, young buck.

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Speaker 15: You must be the youngest toast.

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Speaker 2: It must be between you and a year. Probably hen

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Speaker 2: is older than me.

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Speaker 16: I wish I was thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Just take a look at it. You can tell. Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you guys. That's lovely.

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Speaker 15: Mike Kelly has made this beautiful cake for you, this

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Speaker 15: chocolate cake. Now I'm wearing a turkey hat because it's

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Speaker 15: going to be Thanksgiving couple of weeks.

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Speaker 16: But I loved it so much.

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Speaker 15: But here we've got gifts. We've got a little week

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Speaker 15: birthday beach and this is for you and your partner

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Speaker 15: because their gorgeous mug hats bright orange, and I thought

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Speaker 15: you could wear them for the Christmas party because that's

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Speaker 15: coming out.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to the Christmas party.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't not go now, Can I thank you guys?

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Speaker 2: That's very lovely of you and for the bread.

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Speaker 15: Can I just say the weather is going to be

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Speaker 15: raining today, but tomorrow for your birthday, is going to

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Speaker 15: be lovely, a high of twenty one.

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Speaker 2: And these caps are for your head.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, all right.

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Speaker 9: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: It's eighteen to Sex News Talk SEVV.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: The loads of feedback on David Seymour and the Treaty's

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Speaker 2: Principles Bill. We'll get to that in a second. Right now.

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Speaker 2: Vincent mcaviniy a UK europe correspondent, France is deploying lots

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Speaker 2: of cops. This is for the Israel football match. This

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Speaker 2: after the violence in Amsterdam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 17: Last week in Amsterdam again between Ajax and Maccabi Tel

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Speaker 17: Aviv was surrounded by controversy because you had the McCabe

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Speaker 17: fans themselves involved in vandalism, tearing down Palestinian flags, attacking

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Speaker 17: a taxi and chanting anti Arab slogans. According to city authorities.

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Speaker 17: Then they were targeted by small groups of rioters. On

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Speaker 17: first and in scooters and cars which then pursued them,

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Speaker 17: and there was a lot of violence and ugliness in

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Speaker 17: the city, and various politicians have been saying it shows

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Speaker 17: that there is a problem with Semitism in Europe. But

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Speaker 17: this was also some classic sort of football hooliganism as well.

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Speaker 17: Now tonight thousands of police are having to be deployed

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Speaker 17: to the stad of France in Paris to ensure security

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Speaker 17: because France is playing Israel. There is a guide though

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Speaker 17: from the Israeli government advising people not to really attend

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Speaker 17: the match. The stadium can hold eighty thousand, it's only

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Speaker 17: going to be about a quarter full for this UA

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Speaker 17: for Nations League game.

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Speaker 2: Expected.

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Speaker 17: After that guidance from the Israeli government, no more than

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Speaker 17: one hundred or so Israeli fans are actually expected to

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Speaker 17: travel to Paris, though there might be some Israelis in

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Speaker 17: the city that decides to pitch up. But the stand

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Speaker 17: of France is itself in an area of Paris which

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Speaker 17: has a big Arab population, a big Arab North African population,

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Speaker 17: and so the police taking no chances with security tonight.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Bond franchise. The producer

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Speaker 2: has given a few hints about how the Nigs Bond

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Speaker 2: might be.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's right. It's been quite a while since Daniel

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Speaker 17: Craig wrapped up his final Bond film, and there's been

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Speaker 17: a lot of speculation since over who will take it over.

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Speaker 17: Barbara Broccoli, who is the part of the family that

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Speaker 17: owns the rights to the movies. They've produced them going

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Speaker 17: back decades now. She's given an interview in which she

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Speaker 17: says the next actor not an actress, so she's clarified.

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Speaker 17: James One will still stay male, will need to be

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Speaker 17: in his thirties, could be of any race, but will

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Speaker 17: need to be young enough to be able to sort

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Speaker 17: of carry the franchise for or around a decade at least.

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Speaker 17: You know, Daniel Craig was cast all the way back

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Speaker 17: in about two thousand and forty thousand and five. He

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Speaker 17: did I think five films in the end, finishing up

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Speaker 17: two three years ago with no time to die. The franchise.

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Speaker 17: The sort of studio MGM has been bought by Amazon

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Speaker 17: in recent years and they're looking to try and do

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Speaker 17: what they always do with Marvel and Star Wars. They're

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Speaker 17: trying to really build it out and build it out

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Speaker 17: into some sort of megafranchise. So the producers saying that

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Speaker 17: they're going to need someone a man young enough to

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Speaker 17: be able to sort of carry that for a number

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Speaker 17: of years, because we saw from Daniel Craig it's pretty

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Speaker 17: physically demanding and if you get injured, as he did

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Speaker 17: several times, it can really stare back production.

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Speaker 2: Well, if they need a white man in his thirties,

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Speaker 2: I think they've found them. Thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 2: Vincent mecaviny A UK. You're correspondent twelve minutes away from.

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Speaker 3: Six Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Sure on news Talk to be Kiwis could be forced

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Speaker 2: to pay up to thirty dollars to sit foot in

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Speaker 2: some of our most popular national parks. The government's posing

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Speaker 2: it's just come out this morning introducing an access charge

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Speaker 2: to populent national areas natural areas. I should say it

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Speaker 2: could apply to tourists and US or just tourists. They

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Speaker 2: are out for consultation on this. They say it will

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Speaker 2: help maintain public conservation sites and the tariffs like this

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Speaker 2: are used widely internationally. Meghan de xantos Is Demoxantos is

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Speaker 2: with us. She's the president of Federated Mountain clubs. Meghan,

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Speaker 2: thanks for being with me, good morning. Do you support this?

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Speaker 18: Look, FMC is supportive of conservation law reform, that we're

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Speaker 18: not supportive of domestic access charges.

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Speaker 2: They say it will only be in overcrowded areas. You know,

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Speaker 2: your Milford sounds, your Tonguelito crossings, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So would it affect many kiwis.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Look, I think that probably one of our biggest

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Speaker 18: concerns is that those areas are used by recreationists to

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Speaker 18: access other, more more backcountry areas. But one of our

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Speaker 18: biggest interns is that most of our recreation community are

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Speaker 18: actually also volunteers on the conservation estate, and those access

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Speaker 18: charges will become a barrier for people carrying out that

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Speaker 18: important conservation work. So what some people don't know is

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Speaker 18: that DOC relies quite heavily on volunteers to do their work,

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Speaker 18: and the kiwis actually also rely heavily on volunteers to

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Speaker 18: search and search and rescue services. So these people shouldn't

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Speaker 18: be expected to pay for the privilege of giving their

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Speaker 18: time for free to their community and nature.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a fair enough point, but surely they'd give

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Speaker 2: you an exemption. I mean, all of this is up

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Speaker 2: for debate. Isn't that that's the point of it. I

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Speaker 2: guess you'd get an exemption surely if you were a volunteer,

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Speaker 2: well you'd hope so.

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Speaker 18: But the volunteers have also recently been asked by DOC

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Speaker 18: to quantify their efforts, and so you know, there's a

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Speaker 18: certain irony and being a volunteer and then being also

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Speaker 18: expected to give you time to prove and quantify what

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Speaker 18: you what your contribution is, seeing what do.

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Speaker 2: You reckon about for it? You know, because the climbers

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Speaker 2: here in New Zealand and trampers and people who love

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Speaker 2: the outdoors obviously do the same thing overseas. And if

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Speaker 2: you look at Yellowstone they pay thirty two bucks a

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Speaker 2: day to go their vamp and Canada national parks thirteen

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Speaker 2: bucks a day. Mount Fuji is twenty three bucks a day.

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Speaker 2: If we charged foreign tourists, one are you okay with that?

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Speaker 2: And two do you think it we're putting one off?

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Speaker 18: I think that that we're more amenable to foreign access

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Speaker 18: charging than we are to domestic access charging. The thing

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Speaker 18: with domestic access charging is we risk pricing keyweeds out

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Speaker 18: of their own backyard. And also that disproportionately affects families

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Speaker 18: and those from low socio economic background. So our view

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Speaker 18: is that wild places shouldn't be places that only rich

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Speaker 18: people can visit. Obviously, people who are visiting from overseas

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Speaker 18: they have the means, and there's also infrastructure that has

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Speaker 18: to be put in place to be able to facilitate

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Speaker 18: their so would be more amenable to foreign only access charging.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much for your time. Megan Demasantos

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Speaker 2: with us, the president of Federated Mountain Clubs. If you're

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Speaker 2: just joining us this morning. The government dropp Day at

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Speaker 2: five o'clock this morning, Drop Day discussion document looking at

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Speaker 2: charging kiwi's and or foreign tourists to visit national parks,

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Speaker 2: not paying just to stay the night, but also paying

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Speaker 2: to actually walk on the tracks that need to be

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Speaker 2: fixed up. It is nine away from six News Talks THEIRB.

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Speaker 3: News and Views You trust to start your day.

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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New

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Speaker 2: Lason was on the show earlier. He said Luxeon should

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Speaker 2: which obviously happened yesterday has passed, it won't go to

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Speaker 2: a second. We'll get past a second and it has

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Speaker 2: been six months in the Justice Select Committee. Now he

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Speaker 2: their bluff. To the Creepy Files this morning, Charles Manson,

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows about a couple killers.

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Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge, he said, I lessen dead people on the

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Speaker 2: away from six News talks, he'd be. Mike's here, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Mikey happy, I see the balloon.

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Speaker 16: Happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: I think it's actually tomorrow, is it.

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Speaker 16: How do you think your career is going?

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Speaker 2: I think it's going pretty well good, because I mean.

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Speaker 16: That's when you sort of reflect on life on you birthdays.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you must remember I'm still very young.

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Speaker 16: Are you still playing that card.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm thirty seven. Is that young?

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Speaker 16: I was younger than me, much younger than you, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: But I'm more successful than you. Yes, but you're much older,

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Speaker 16: that's true. So it's the time success ratio. And this

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Speaker 16: is what we do on how old were you when

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Speaker 16: you started this your job? There's literally this job, yeah,

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Speaker 16: sixteen years ago, so whatever that is. So fifty say

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Speaker 16: say twenty, say fifty thirty nine, thirty nine, say I'm

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Speaker 16: but forty one forty two? Yeah, okay, so you've got

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Speaker 16: a couple of years ago you could be on a roll.

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Speaker 16: You got you, So what you're saying this time you've

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Speaker 16: still got times. No, that's that's good. You should fa

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Speaker 16: you should feel up beat about But that's exactly right. No,

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Speaker 16: that's good. People here with your your stuff turkey hat, Yeah,

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Speaker 16: they clearly, they clearly think well of you.

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Speaker 2: Never's got me a good and lovely gift. Now I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine you as a National Park walker. I don't

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Speaker 2: see you with your skrogan and your podcast and some

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Speaker 2: hiking got.

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Speaker 16: Me nail perfectly. I have been to Crabapple Bay, which

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Speaker 16: is in the able Tasman. Yes, once and I did think.

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Speaker 16: As I wandered down off the track onto crab Apple

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Speaker 16: Beach or whatever the beach is called, I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 16: not fair enough, because you know, you've.

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Speaker 2: Never slept in a dock hut, because you have to

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Speaker 2: sleep right next to strangers and there's smelly socks.

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Speaker 16: And in very low rent accommodation, very low. No, No,

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Speaker 16: I've never been. I love the idea of the national parks,

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Speaker 16: and I like that we have them, and I like

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Speaker 16: to think that I could access them and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But you love to fly over them.

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Speaker 16: I like people who enjoy them. My mother's one. She'll

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Speaker 16: go my mother will go to the Catlands like she's

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Speaker 16: eighty one eighty two years off and she goes, We're

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Speaker 16: off to the Catlands to walk through it. Wow, And

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Speaker 16: that's like I question whether she's actually my mother.

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Speaker 2: But she might need twenty or thirty dollars for the extent.

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Speaker 16: And she would be happy to pay it. That's the point,

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Speaker 16: more than happy to pay it. Hey, party, we're having.

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Speaker 2: A pack No, no party, Oh, no party. Okay, I've

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Speaker 2: got to get that. But job first, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: come anywhere. Mike's next, have a great week in everyone

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