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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Genesis on their

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Speaker 3: half year results, power prices and getting another two hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollars from the government. A Wellington City councilor on

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Speaker 3: those move on orders and the people who've raised counselor's

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Speaker 3: pay on why they've.

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Speaker 2: Raised Heather duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Entirely predictably, the conversation about the move on orders today

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Speaker 3: has been dominated by handwringing over what this will do

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Speaker 3: to the people moved on by the police. When they're

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Speaker 3: moved on by the police, where will they go, Whether

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Speaker 3: they're actually causing enough disruption to be moved on, how

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Speaker 3: much harder it's going to make life for them because

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Speaker 3: they are so vulnerable. Now, is that is a legitimate conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not. But what happens when we

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Speaker 3: have this conversation, and really only this conversation, is that

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Speaker 3: we sort of forget that there are other people who

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Speaker 3: should also be considered in this conversation. The people who

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Speaker 3: run the shops that these disruptive characters lie outside, The

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Speaker 3: people who get hassled by rough sleepers who are off

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Speaker 3: their face sometimes, who then start avoiding certain parts of

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Speaker 3: off their face. The people who pay the rates in

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Speaker 3: whatever town they live in, and therefore should be able

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Speaker 3: to enjoy the nice things in their town, the cafes,

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Speaker 3: the waterfront, their CBD, whatever it is that they want

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Speaker 3: to enjoy. These people that I'm talking about are not insignificant,

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Speaker 3: and their desire to enjoy their town, their need to

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Speaker 3: be pushed aside without regard in what appears to be

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Speaker 3: an opinion that rough sleepers can camp wherever they want,

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Speaker 3: impacting whoever they want, and we simply need to tolerate

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Speaker 3: it because they're vulnerable. If we are all going to

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Speaker 3: that there are expectations on all of our behavior, and

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Speaker 3: I think that that includes the expectation that rough sleeping,

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Speaker 3: drug taking, and intoxication are taken away from high traffic

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Speaker 3: areas so that the rest of us can enjoy those

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Speaker 3: high traffic areas that often we pay for. Now, as

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Speaker 3: I say, I am not without sympathy for the people

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Speaker 3: that they are vulnerable. They are, but we cannot have

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Speaker 2: Ever, due for thee Island.

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Speaker 3: Nine through nineteen is the text number. Standard text is applying.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome to weigh in on that. Now. Chris Tipkins,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about him. He's given a State of the

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Speaker 3: Nation's speech to the Auckland Business Chamber today, laying out

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Speaker 3: his vision for the future of New Zealand before we

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Speaker 3: go to the polls in November.

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Speaker 4: Right now, too many New Zealanders feel the futures slipping

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Speaker 4: away from them, not through lack of effort. People are

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Speaker 4: working so hard and they're playing by the rules. But

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Speaker 4: hard work alone no longer guarantees the chance to get ahead.

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Speaker 4: And I hear that everywhere I go, that anxiety about

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Speaker 4: where the New Zealand's heading in the right direction at all.

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Speaker 3: Right, So let's talk to the Labour Party leader high.

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Speaker 5: Chipie get A Heather.

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Speaker 3: The thing that everybody's observed from the speech is that

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Speaker 3: there is no policy. When should we expect policies coming

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Speaker 5: I've set out our priorities, which are around jobs, health

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Speaker 5: and homes, so good paid, good, well paid jobs, healthcare

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Speaker 5: will come after this year's government budget, because I only

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Speaker 5: want to promise stuff that I know that I can

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Speaker 3: Do you anticipate doing things a bit differently to how

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Speaker 3: you guys have done it in the past, because historically

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Speaker 5: We're absolutely going to be doing things differently. And one

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Speaker 3: Okay, there is a part of me listening to your

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Speaker 3: speech today, Chippy, that felt a little bit like witnessing

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Speaker 3: the arsonist complain about the fire. Do you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 5: I totally disagree with that here that ultimately the situation

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Speaker 5: there are some long term things and they're shore, but

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Speaker 5: the current government's priorities, the current government's choices have been

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Speaker 5: the wrong choices, and they've led us to the situation

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Speaker 5: that we'll what is it?

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Speaker 6: What is it?

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? What part of the economy

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Speaker 3: is their fault?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: If you look at the increasing rate of unemployment, a

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Speaker 5: lot of that's driven by the fact that government cut

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Speaker 3: You know that, you know, but Chippy, be fair, that's

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Speaker 3: bs the rate of employment and eployment is where it

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Speaker 3: Grant Robertson did this is directly sheeted back to your government.

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Speaker 3: Next example, please.

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Speaker 5: There was then to be an increase in unemployment. Heither,

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Speaker 5: when the Reserve Bank were ramping up, ramping up interest

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Speaker 5: Reserve You are responsible to worry about jobs.

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Speaker 8: You're responsible.

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Speaker 3: What is the next what's the other thing that you're

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Speaker 5: One of the well, one of the first things that

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Speaker 5: this government did was changed the laws, so the Reserve

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Speaker 5: Bank doesn't need to even think about whether or not

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Speaker 5: they're going to cost people their jobs when they're making

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Speaker 5: decisions on interest rates. That was Nichola Willis's first priority.

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Speaker 3: This is because it probably wasn't much of a consideration

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Speaker 3: which was inflation, which again was your fault. It peaked

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Speaker 5: That's just not true. Heithertiply not true.

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Speaker 3: What does you look true about that statement?

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Speaker 5: There was a global spike in inflation after the COVID

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Speaker 3: What caused what caused a global spike? What caused the

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Speaker 3: global spike in inflation? Though, Chippy, it was governments opening

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Speaker 3: the fire hose of money, including your government. You can't

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Speaker 3: pretend it wasn't you. So at the moment, the two

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Speaker 3: both of which is actually your fault.

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Speaker 5: We made the choice to keep New Zealanders in work,

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Speaker 5: and I'm very proud of that that choice. Well, you

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Speaker 3: Yep. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is it

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Speaker 3: going to be the only person having this experience, Chippy.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people watching it who will

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Speaker 3: have watch your speech. Staying on, how are you complaining

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Speaker 5: Oh, you're doing very good job of speaking From Nicola

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Speaker 5: out a number of things that we'll do differently. The

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, just to prove to you that I am

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Speaker 3: not speaking from Nicola Willis's song sheet, will you nix

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Speaker 3: the gas levy if you come in, which is their

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Speaker 5: What I said today was if we can get out

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Speaker 5: we will, right. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: He was always always always appreciate your time in the

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Speaker 3: half year result, though, I need to tell you we're

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Speaker 3: They've reported an eleven percent jump in underlying net profit. However,

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Speaker 3: to be struggling international tourism in the US and also

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Speaker 3: weaker vehicle sales. I got more where that came from.

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Speaker 3: Heather Chippy is an arsonist looking for redemption. He's knee

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Speaker 3: Heather Okay, Chris Greenacre is here the job.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, he's certainly not experience in taking over in

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Speaker 9: times of need for Wellington Phoenix. This would you believe

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Speaker 9: is the fourth time he has come in to save

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Speaker 9: the team, really after a coach has left mid season.

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Speaker 9: He did it when former coaches Ricky Herbert, Ernie Merrick

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Speaker 9: So this is the fourth time he's done it. What

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Speaker 9: your hope, Heather, is that he's done enough to actually

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Speaker 9: earn a crack at the job full time. At the moment,

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Speaker 9: they've only said okay, you're taking you're taking the team

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Speaker 9: for this weekend's game. I think that's just to get

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Speaker 9: him for the rest of this season. But what your

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Speaker 9: hope is that he will be given the opportunity, after

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Speaker 9: so many times as interim, to be the full time

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Speaker 9: I think that's probably what will happen, barring an utter

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Speaker 3: Only offer him one week or only? Did he say

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Speaker 11: So what do we make if the Trump terroristven percent

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Speaker 12: Overall, this is potentially good news from these Ottle exporters.

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Speaker 13: And if it's fifteen percent for everyone and everything, our

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Speaker 1: It's heather duper cl and Drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 3: They'd be won't surprise you at all if you've been

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Speaker 3: Oli Peterson will be with us in about fifteen minutes

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on us dogs. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 14: With the killing of Mentor, it detonates this struggle for

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Speaker 3: Further up, the America's Donald Trump is raising tariffs on

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Speaker 8: It's not consistent with our trade agreement.

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Speaker 3: And finally, bottle of Wild Wings, if you had to

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 13: So the Coalition argues that anybody that is involved in

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Speaker 7: Is that adhere to Australian values?

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Speaker 13: He said this morning that we need to shut the

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Speaker 8: Not tough enough.

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Speaker 13: in this country at the moment, and this is where

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Speaker 13: I think the opposition believes it can exploit the government header.

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Speaker 13: So I think it is all calculated at the moment

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Speaker 13: from the opposition. The government is vulnerable, I think it's

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Speaker 13: fair to say, but I don't quite think that they're

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Speaker 13: as weak as the as the opposition would make them

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Speaker 13: out to be at the moment.

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Speaker 7: I put a big asterisk on that. There's a bit

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Speaker 7: to play out.

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Speaker 3: Well, what changes like if it's at the moment, what

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Speaker 3: changes well?

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Speaker 13: The Prime Ministry has been quite cute, I can use

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Speaker 13: that term at the moment when he says that his

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Speaker 13: position is that they're not repatriating people and they're not

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Speaker 13: providing assistance, so the government is not enabling this right,

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Speaker 13: but he's not stopping it if somebody else is or

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Speaker 13: if another organization is helping these people come back to Australia.

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Speaker 13: So that's why I'm saying he's being cute. The government

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Speaker 13: might not be assisting in this, but the government's also

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Speaker 13: not stopping it. That's where the opposition believe that they

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Speaker 13: can exploit this point and at the moment there is

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Speaker 13: a little sense of vulnerability. I suppose of these isis

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Speaker 13: brides and their families come back to the country, that

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Speaker 13: may shift the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Is that not inevitable? Only that I mean, the only

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Speaker 3: reason problem is because it seems like there was a

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Speaker 3: technicality that got those guys turned around, like as in

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Speaker 3: one faction of whoever's running Seria at the moment didn't

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Speaker 3: have the right paperwork for them. So it seems like

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Speaker 3: at some point they'll jump back in the vans, they'll

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Speaker 3: head to the nearest embassy and they'll be on their

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Speaker 3: way home, won't they.

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Speaker 13: They will be, and that's when the opposition can strike

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Speaker 13: and say, well, do you want them home? Because if

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Speaker 13: you elect us, we're going to lock the borders. Effectively,

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Speaker 13: I'm putting words in their mouths, but that's where this

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Speaker 13: that's where this can come unstuck, and that's where obviously

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Speaker 13: the opposition sees an opportunity to attack the government. As

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Speaker 13: I say, I think it's a really interesting time at

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Speaker 13: the moment in Australian politics, and that's where the government

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Speaker 13: is vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, who nicked the poppy plants?

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Speaker 7: I do, but you know this is interesting.

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Speaker 13: Seventeen hundred toxic poppy plants out of Victoria at the moment. Now,

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Speaker 13: these are really high in concentration with some life threatening

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Speaker 13: feebane and oribe van or a pavane. I think it's

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Speaker 13: called dangerously high concentration. So they're not like opioid poppies.

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Speaker 13: But basically if these go into the wrong hands and

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Speaker 13: someone decides to consume them, that could be that could

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Speaker 13: be life all over because it doesn't produce pain relief,

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Speaker 13: the Victorian Department of Health says, or euphoria.

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Speaker 7: They target the nervous system.

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Speaker 13: They can lead to see high body temperatures, life threatening toxicity.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know who stole the poppies.

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Speaker 13: Are out of a lab, but obviously somebody thought they

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Speaker 13: were getting some good stuff.

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Speaker 7: But that good stuff might be bad stuff for them.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm really surprised you didn't mention the rugby at

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Speaker 3: the start of this cross.

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Speaker 13: Well, what's there to mention at the moment. I mean,

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Speaker 13: the Western Force need to sack their coach and get

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Speaker 13: on with it. Having said that, I'm very excited because

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Speaker 13: James ram is going to make his debut for Bastin Force, right.

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Speaker 7: I believe he's a bit of a connection to your team, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Will only claims, not only ants claims it's.

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Speaker 8: His cousin, my cousin.

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Speaker 3: Is he though?

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Speaker 8: Is he your cousins?

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Speaker 3: Where are the receipts?

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Speaker 8: He is my father's sister's son, which makes him my cousin.

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Speaker 3: It's the most famous person we know, Olie, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Bill, I thought you're all. I thought you're all

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Speaker 7: sort of related in news.

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Speaker 3: Another connection, which you know, which is why you're nicking us.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, good luck with that and hopefully.

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Speaker 13: I noticed that well, as I said to you, that's

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Speaker 13: why I think we should come together and then we

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Speaker 13: never lose the Butter's.

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Speaker 3: Lo fa I forgot you did that.

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Speaker 2: I thank you.

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Speaker 3: Olli Peterson ABC Perth Radio Drive Present Why I raised

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Speaker 3: the rugby with Ollie is that I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you saw it, but the Western Force got thumped by

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Speaker 3: the Blues forty two thirty two. And what Alie is

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Speaker 3: referring to is that he remember we talked about this

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Speaker 3: on the show. David Farrer wrote the opinion piece where

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Speaker 3: he said we should all come together, we should be

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Speaker 3: the seventh state of Australia. Ollie loved it so much

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Speaker 3: he started a text conversation with me just nutting out

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Speaker 3: how this would actually work for us. And I hate

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Speaker 3: to say it, I actually agree with him. Seventeen away

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Speaker 3: from five, Heather, do perceive? Got some updates for you,

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Speaker 3: plenty of updates on dog attacks. The first one I've

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Speaker 3: got for you is that there was another dog attack.

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Speaker 3: This one happened in Brindwer in christ Church and it

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Speaker 3: happened on Saturday. What happened as a woman heard a

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Speaker 3: screen and she said it didn't sound right, so she

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Speaker 3: ran outside next door. The dogs were attacking the man

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Speaker 3: who lives there. So they were attacking their own on it,

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Speaker 3: attacking the he's a dad, attacking the dad's legs. He

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Speaker 3: had his son up on the bonnet of the car

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Speaker 3: to try to save the sun but he was getting mauled.

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Speaker 3: She ran over to the fence the boy to jump

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Speaker 3: to her over the fence, off the bonnet. He did

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Speaker 3: so he was safe in her property at this stage.

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Speaker 3: The dad then made his way over, stumbled onto her property,

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Speaker 3: collapsed on the driveway and it sounded like it was

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Speaker 3: just hatdeous. One of his calves like mauled. His legs

551
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Speaker 3: were terrible. One of the calves was ripped open. You

552
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Speaker 3: could see his veins. He started basically bleeding out right there.

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Speaker 3: Only concerned about his son. She called one one one,

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Speaker 3: They told her what to do. She managed to stem

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Speaker 3: the bleeding and saved his life. He is okay.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: The boy does have some minor injuries. Also, the dad's

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Speaker 3: partner also has some minor injuries. And the important thing

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Speaker 3: here I think to note is that the neighbor says

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Speaker 3: they were not bad dogs, They were not neglected, they

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Speaker 3: were not roaming freely. They just turned on their own people.

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Speaker 3: There may have been an incident that sort of set

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Speaker 3: it off recently. I think that something along the lines

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Speaker 3: of the police chased somebody through the property, pepper sprayed

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Speaker 3: the dogs on the way through, and perhaps the dogs

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Speaker 3: were traumatized by it. But lesson than this is any

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Speaker 3: dog can be a bad dog, so you know you

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Speaker 3: have to be careful. And number two, thank god for

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Speaker 3: the neighbor and her quick thinking. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five, Politics with Centrics Credit, check your customers and get payments,

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Speaker 1: certainty on.

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Speaker 3: The capital raised with Genesis Energy. Obviously Nichola Willis is

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Speaker 3: the one who has to sign off on it, as

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Speaker 3: per usual on a Monday after six, she's with us.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to her about it. Thirteen away from five

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Speaker 3: right now and Barry Sooper, Senior Political Correspondence.

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Speaker 10: With US, Hallo, Barry, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of chippy State of the Nation speech?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Well, you know Labour always has these mantras, doesn't it.

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Speaker 10: Jasin dar Dern had kindness. They've got affordability. Now if

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Speaker 10: they really applied that to any policy that they might

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Speaker 10: think about bringing into the House, they won't be able

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Speaker 10: to bring in any policy because the government's broke and

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Speaker 10: it'll be broke still by the time if there's a

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Speaker 10: change in government. They could of course do a Muldoon

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Speaker 10: and put everything prices, wages, mortgage interest rates into an icebox.

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Speaker 10: They could do that and then they can dish out

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Speaker 10: the LOLLI but look, the State of the Nation address

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Speaker 10: really didn't do a great deal for me anyway. I

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Speaker 10: liked David Seymour's take on it. He said the speech

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Speaker 10: wasn't lightweight. It was featherweight. Any politician could have read

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Speaker 10: it out because it doesn't want for those who don't

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Speaker 10: want good things. I mean, everybody wants good things.

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Speaker 7: Why not?

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Speaker 10: He said, he listened to Hipkins and he heard just

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Speaker 10: in dernal light and in a lilting voice saying that

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Speaker 10: all the right things promises live in Nirvana and really

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Speaker 10: doesn't deliver a lot. And that's really his summing up

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Speaker 10: of it. So at the stand up with journalists after

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Speaker 10: the State of Nation speech, Hipkins talked about tolling that

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Speaker 10: existing Harbor bridge to pay for a new crossing. I mean,

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Speaker 10: this is what he had to say on that.

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Speaker 4: Tolling a new road is something that labor has been

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Speaker 4: open to previously. Tolling an existing road is something that

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Speaker 4: we've been opposed to as a nine dollar toll. Realistic

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Speaker 4: if you look around the world at other road tolls,

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Speaker 4: that seems to be right at the upper end, and

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Speaker 4: whether anyone would drive on. It would be a pretty

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Speaker 4: significant question. I've also set out some reassurance to business

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Speaker 4: leaders who are concerned about the constant shopping and changing

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Speaker 4: of New Zealand's direction when it comes to things like

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Speaker 4: infrastructure investment that we're not going to repeat the mistakes

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Speaker 4: of the past, and that was very very well received.

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Speaker 10: I'll bet it was. I mean, at least that's some

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Speaker 10: assurance from Labor that projects won't be canned after they've

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Speaker 10: been entered into I don't know what the Greens will

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Speaker 10: think about that, though they want to undo a number

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Speaker 10: of projects if they're in coalition. But ax David Seymour

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Speaker 10: also how to stand up with journo's and took the

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Speaker 10: proverbial out of Labour's new mantra of affordability and raised

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Speaker 10: the levy on the Auckland Harbor Bridge as well.

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Speaker 17: Now, if he came out and said we're not going

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Speaker 17: to have a levee, we're going to tax people more,

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Speaker 17: we're going to borrow more, we're going to balance the

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Speaker 17: books that way, I would respect that. What I don't

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Speaker 17: respect is saying you're going to put the affordability at

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Speaker 17: the heart of everything, but not even explaining how you'd

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Speaker 17: afford your own policies. So if he wants to roll

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Speaker 17: out a charge, sure, explain, show us the money.

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Speaker 7: That's fear. That's what we always do.

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Speaker 17: This guy's putting affordability at the heart of everything, but

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Speaker 17: he can't pay for anything.

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Speaker 10: I mean, come on, I think it'll come back to

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Speaker 10: haunt him, the affordability thing, because you know, nothing can

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Speaker 10: really be afforded at the moment without cutting something else

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Speaker 10: or borrowing money.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also it's also something slightly ironic, isn't it

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Speaker 3: that you drive up inflation to seven point three percent

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Speaker 3: and you complain about affordability.

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Speaker 10: There's a worldwide issue problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, globally, totally totally global problem. What do you make

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Speaker 3: of these move on powers? I suspect they're going to

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Speaker 3: be very popular.

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Speaker 10: I'm sure they'll be very popular, But the problem is

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Speaker 10: the move on. You move them on for twenty four hours,

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Speaker 10: so presumably they can come back in twenty four hours now.

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Speaker 10: I was talking with a one year old on crack

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Speaker 10: I call it Cracker Happy Road over the weekend and

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Speaker 10: a number of people were sleeping rough and one really

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Speaker 10: had to go at me. I don't know why, but

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Speaker 10: he had to go all sorts of abuse. I had

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Speaker 10: to block my little girl's ears.

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Speaker 7: But no, no, but it was it was.

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Speaker 10: He was totally over the top with me.

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Speaker 3: But look, isn't the idea, though, Barry, Sure the idea.

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Speaker 3: I realize you're gonna have to do it every twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours, and you're just moving the problem on. But

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Speaker 3: remember a lot of these people, and I don't mean to,

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Speaker 3: you know, make a generalization, So I'm not going to

661
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Speaker 3: say all, but many of these people you've witnessed yourself, yourself,

662
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: are off their faces on drugs. Now, when you're off

663
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Speaker 3: your face on drugs, you just want to sit there

664
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Speaker 3: and have a good time, right, You don't want to

665
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Speaker 3: be moved on by the cops. So if you're getting

666
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Speaker 3: moved on every twenty four hours, you're just going to

667
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Speaker 3: end up finding somewhere where people don't come so you

668
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Speaker 3: can enjoy your drugs there.

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Speaker 10: Well, no, that is true. But the other aspect of

670
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Speaker 10: it is a two thousand dollars fine, Where are they

671
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Speaker 10: going to pay for that? I mean, you know, but

672
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Speaker 10: they're all you know, we live in a welfare state country,

673
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 10: so you know, surely all of them could get a

674
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Speaker 10: benefit that they really put their heart into it.

675
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Speaker 3: Benefits don't pay for drugs. Well they touch you need

676
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Speaker 3: a lot more money.

677
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so and three months in prison, presumer if they

678
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Speaker 10: don't move on immediately. I don't know how you apply

679
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 10: this law, because they move on for twenty four hours

680
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Speaker 10: and then they're back.

681
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Speaker 3: You know, as I say, the idea is that you

682
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Speaker 3: annoy them, you irritate them till they find somewhere like

683
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Speaker 3: a symmetry to go and sit where the rest of

684
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Speaker 3: us don't want to be, you know what I mean.

685
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Speaker 3: So they can go in camps somewhere by themselves, and

686
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Speaker 3: rest of us can use currying a happy road.

687
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Speaker 10: I don't want them resting in the place of my

688
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Speaker 10: loved ones.

689
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Speaker 3: You know what, if you talk nonsense, I don't have

690
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Speaker 3: a chance to talk about. The last thing you want

691
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Speaker 3: to talk about. Give me really quickly, go Education is

692
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's teriffs? No Education announced it tomorrow.

693
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Speaker 10: What do you know?

694
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: The only thing I do know is that Chris Laxon

696
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Speaker 10: wasn't doing any stand ups on chrish speech today, which

697
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Speaker 10: I thought was a bit unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, thank you, Barry, appreciate it very so for

699
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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent seven away from five, Heather, you can't

700
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Speaker 3: receive a benefit if you don't have a fixed boat.

701
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Speaker 3: Actually that I mean, that's that's not true, is it?

702
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Speaker 3: Because if you go along to places, I think the

703
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: City Mission does it. But those kinds of sort of

704
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: you know, the people who help rough sleepers out, they

705
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 3: provide essentially an address where you can register and then

706
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Speaker 3: you can get your benefits. So it's still possible to

707
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Speaker 3: get it, and trust me, they probably do. Four away

708
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Speaker 3: from five Now we're gonna have to never a week

709
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Speaker 3: goes by. We were not discussing the councils because they

710
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Speaker 3: are just the stone in our shoes, aren't they. Have

711
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Speaker 3: you seen the pay rise that the councilors in the

712
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Speaker 3: Western Bay of Plenty District have just had. You would

713
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Speaker 3: want this for yourself if it was even possible. Fifty

714
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Speaker 3: seven percent in a year, fifty seven percent in one year.

715
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Speaker 3: So and we can thank the Taxpayers Union for crunching

716
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Speaker 3: the numbers on this. They've basically looked at how much

717
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Speaker 3: councilors across the country have seen their pay go up.

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Speaker 3: Western Bay of Plenty absolutely tops the table. It's gone

719
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Speaker 3: up the pay council the councilors get their fifty seven percent.

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Speaker 3: The average salary was eighty one thousand dollars. That's up

721
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Speaker 3: from fifty two thousand dollars the year before. Queenstown Lakes

722
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Speaker 3: is the second place they've gone up thirty three percent.

723
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Speaker 3: And then the national increase nationwide was just shy of

724
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Speaker 3: ten percent, which even for ten percent, even just the

725
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Speaker 3: average is eye wateringly high. Anyway, we're going to talk

726
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Speaker 3: to Jeff Summers now. Now what the councilors will say

727
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: to you, and the councils and local government New Zealand

728
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Speaker 3: will go, wow, we can't do anything about it. It's

729
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: set by the remuneration authority. Can't say no, which is

730
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Speaker 3: the same nonsense that the MPs give us everything. Oh

731
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Speaker 3: it was the remuneration Well, b as to that, you

732
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: can get a piece of law, change it, you can

733
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Speaker 3: undo it if you want to, you can stop it. Anyway.

734
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to the remuneration Authority after half past five

735
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Speaker 3: because I'm quite keen to see why the big jump,

736
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Speaker 3: like why did it go up so much? Anyway, that

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Speaker 3: soon Genesis Energy years with us. Next on the Capital

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Speaker 3: rais Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 17: You said my life on.

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Speaker 2: Proddressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

741
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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper Clan drive with one New Zealand to

742
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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else.

743
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Speaker 2: Newstalk zb.

744
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Speaker 3: Afternoon. The government's having to stump up two hundred million

745
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Speaker 3: dollars to retain its majority shareholding in Genesis after the

746
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Speaker 3: gen Taylor announced the capital rays today the chief executive,

747
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: Malcolm John's is with us now home Malcolm, good evening,

748
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Speaker 3: how are you well? Thank you? What are you planning

749
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Speaker 3: to do with the money.

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Speaker 18: We're going to build some solar farms, some grid scale

751
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Speaker 18: batteries and some wind and extend the life of the

752
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Speaker 18: Aarntley Rankins.

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Speaker 3: And what does it speed up your ability to do it?

754
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Speaker 18: It does absolutely. What would have taken us ten to

755
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Speaker 18: fifteen years will probably take us more like six or seven.

756
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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, reasonable lift in your earnings. Now is that

757
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: down to cheap hydro unless coal burns in the last half.

758
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Speaker 18: Year, It's down to a couple of things. Obviously we

759
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 18: started the half year with record low hydro and snowfall

760
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 18: in spring was very beneficial to correcting that. But equally

761
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 18: we were able to support industrial gas users by selling

762
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Speaker 18: gas out to industrials as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's next year looking like or is it too

764
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Speaker 3: early to say?

765
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Speaker 18: When you heel, it moves from whek to dry within

766
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Speaker 18: about a six week period, So the next six weeks

767
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 18: looks really good, and if it keeps raining then it'll

768
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Speaker 18: keep rolling forward. But you know, we have a pretty

769
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Speaker 18: healthy coal stockpile now and the gas storage facilities are

770
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Speaker 18: fairly well stopped. So with the lakes fall and those

771
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Speaker 18: reserve fuels in place, we're in good shape.

772
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Speaker 3: Simon Wats's office has been in touch with this show

773
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Speaker 3: and still trying to convince us that the LNG deal

774
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Speaker 3: is a good idea, and has pointed out that the

775
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Speaker 3: wholesale prices for electricity have come back for the calendar

776
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Speaker 3: year of twenty eight twenty nine. Is that right?

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Speaker 5: How do they have?

778
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Speaker 16: Yes?

779
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Speaker 10: By how much?

780
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Speaker 18: From memory? Fifteen dollars?

781
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Speaker 3: I think is that significant?

782
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Speaker 18: It is in the context of where we've been. There's

783
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Speaker 18: no question that the system or the trading system is

784
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 18: seen more risk in the future than otherwise. So as

785
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Speaker 18: we bring in different fuel options, more coal in the

786
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 18: stockpile and more renewable generation into the mix, that risk

787
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Speaker 18: starts to come out of the forward view. Of pricing.

788
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that fifteen dollars is that directly related to

789
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Speaker 3: the LNG deal?

790
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Speaker 18: I can't directly relate it to any deal. I mean,

791
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Speaker 18: there's a lot of generation that's being built at the moment.

792
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Speaker 18: But the more reserved fuel resilience you have, the more

793
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Speaker 18: certainty there is and being able to generate electricity in

794
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Speaker 18: the future, and the lower that risk premium is.

795
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Speaker 3: So Malcolm, we can't. Are you saying to me, we

796
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Speaker 3: can't say that the fifteen dollars as a result to

797
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Speaker 3: of the LNG as opposed to every other thing that

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Speaker 3: you guys are all building at the moment.

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Speaker 18: I don't think there's a single lever or a single

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Speaker 18: silver billet. I think everything matters.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Malcolm, what's happening with the power prices later this year?

802
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Speaker 18: At the moment, they're looking fairly stable. Like I said,

803
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Speaker 18: with full lakes and good reserve fuels, there's not much

804
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 18: risk premium in the forward curve. But as I said,

805
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Speaker 18: new yelling can move from wheat to dry conditions in

806
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 18: about a six week period, and when that happens, you'll

807
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 18: get tension in the market.

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Speaker 3: I was meaning, are you guys putting power prices up.

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Speaker 18: Oh no, no, we don't have any plans in the

810
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Speaker 18: immediate future to do that.

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Speaker 3: Malcolm, thanks very much. Is always really appreciate talking to you, Malcolm.

812
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Speaker 3: John's Genesis chief executive.

813
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Speaker 2: Heather do for see Ellen.

814
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Speaker 3: So, the government's move on orders have had a bit

815
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Speaker 3: of a mixed response since they were announced, Yesterda. As

816
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: you'd expect, there's a fair amount of concern for vulnerable

817
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Speaker 3: rough sleepers, and the Police Association president Steve Watt told

818
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Speaker 3: Mike this morning that he's a little bit concerned.

819
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Speaker 19: Well, I think the issue for us is that also

820
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Speaker 19: we acknowledged is a problem there for police, this is

821
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Speaker 19: yet another job they have to.

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Speaker 2: Do with already stretch resources.

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Speaker 19: We simply don't have the men and woman power in

824
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Speaker 19: order to deal with this problem.

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Speaker 3: Cal Tiffenbacker a Wellington City Council and with us now,

826
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Speaker 3: Hi Carl, hey here, how are you going? And well,

827
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Speaker 3: thank you. Do you think these move on orders are

828
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Speaker 3: helpful or not?

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Speaker 6: Look, I think if you start from the basis of

830
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Speaker 6: are we doing the best we possibly can and is

831
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Speaker 6: it giving us good results, you probably have to say no,

832
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 6: not really. So I think it's another cog in the

833
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 6: wheel of the police to help us do better, So

834
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Speaker 6: I'm quite positive about them.

835
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Speaker 3: Yep, what would you do if you could add more

836
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: to it? Like what would be the silver bullet?

837
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 6: Look, I think the reality is what we've first of

838
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 6: all got to accept is that it's not so much

839
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 6: a homelessness problem. It's really more a substance abuse problem

840
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 6: in a mental health issue. Once we accept that, then

841
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 6: I think the approach we need to take is that

842
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 6: we need to work on those solutions rather than the

843
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 6: fact that building more houses will get these people off

844
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Speaker 6: the street.

845
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: Now what does a mental health solution look like?

846
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Speaker 11: Though?

847
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Speaker 6: That's why I don't know. I'm simply an ice cream

848
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 6: sellar and a counselor. We pay a lot of people

849
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Speaker 6: a lot of money to basically deal with these things,

850
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 6: and I think the government needs to be focused on

851
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: actually working with counsels and getting a joint solution to it.

852
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: Are your retailers in Wellington happy about it?

853
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Speaker 6: I would mention that where I haven't actually managed to

854
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: speak to them at the stage, but I am one

855
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 6: of them, and as far as I'm concerned, I know

856
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 6: that Courtney Place, for example, we have a real issue

857
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Speaker 6: with a lot of homeless around there.

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Speaker 2: At the moment.

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Speaker 6: And I mean, let's face it, if you've got a

860
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Speaker 6: child and you're going to send them into hopefully the

861
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 6: reading cinema once it reopens, you're going to do a

862
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 6: lot more happily if there's not a whole lot of

863
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 6: people sitting on street.

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00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, everybody's going to ask this question, where do

865
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: they get moved on to?

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Speaker 6: Though, Well, that is a question that the government really

867
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: need to help out with it. Really, As I said,

868
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Speaker 6: it isn't mental health issue, so we have to deal

869
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Speaker 6: with that. It is a substance abuse issue. We have

870
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Speaker 6: to deal with that. That's complex. You know, I get

871
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 6: second tired people saying it's complex, But that is something

872
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 6: that the government in those institutions really need to be

873
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 6: getting to the bottom of.

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Speaker 3: Don't you guys in Wellington have some sort of a

875
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: wet house or something up Taranake Street.

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Speaker 6: We have some things in place. We have a city

877
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Speaker 6: Safety the team working on things as well. Obviously, what

878
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 6: we're doing at the moment, though, isn't getting us the

879
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Speaker 6: results we are.

880
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: Well, what I was meaning, Carl, is don't you have

881
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: a place like a shelter or something that people can

882
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: be moved to?

883
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 6: I think there are still limitations on whether they can

884
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 6: get it. I don't think it's a full wet house.

885
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: Huh okay, hey, thank you, Carle. Always appreciate your time.

886
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 3: It's Carl Tefenbaker, who's a Wellington City councilor thirteen past five.

887
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: For see Allen.

888
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: I just want to draw your attention to a very

889
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: important court case that has started today, but you're not

890
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: going to see much. You're not going to see it

891
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: covered in the news very much, basically because there is

892
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: such heavy suppression around this case. But it is important.

893
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember the case of Allan Hall, who was

894
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: the chap who was jailed for nineteen years for a

895
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 3: murder he didn't commit. And if I remember correctly, it

896
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: was something like the suspect that was seen fleeing the

897
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: scene was like a tall Maldi man or something, and

898
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: Alan Hall is a tiny, little white guy. It clearly

899
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: wasn't the guy at all. Anyway, the way that he

900
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: that ends up getting and he's got some you know,

901
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: he's on the spectrum, and the way that he ends

902
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: up getting pinned for the murder is basically considered now

903
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: to be one of the country's worst miscarriages of justice.

904
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: Now two people are in court from today related to

905
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: this case, charged with wilfully attempting to pervert the course

906
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: of justice. There were originally three of them, but the

907
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: third chap has died. The names of all three of

908
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: these men and their occupations remain suppressed until at least

909
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: the end of the trial, which may go for about

910
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: four weeks. They've all pleaded not guilty. I'm going to

911
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: keep you posted on this as this goes along, and

912
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: definitely once we get a verdict here, because I think

913
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: this is very significant, we'll deal next with the Phoenix

914
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: fourteen past five, right, Just to reminder that after half

915
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: past five we're going to have a chat to a

916
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: remuneration authority to try to establish just why it is

917
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: that they have raised the pay of counselors around the

918
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: country in some cases to the extent that they have

919
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: which is extraordinary. And then Nikola willis as with us

920
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 3: after six o'clock to talk us through why it is.

921
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: You know what, can I just point this out, Nicola Willison,

922
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: the National Party are going to be and paigning at

923
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: the end of this year on asset recycling as far

924
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: as we understand, right, and this means basically a sell

925
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: down of the majority shareholding that they have in the

926
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: publicly listed power companies. So it seems I find this

927
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: quite a weird sequence of events that we're putting two

928
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: hundred million the into Genesis to be able to retain

929
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 3: the fifty one percent and then after the election potentially

930
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: selling it back down again. Anyway, we'll talk to her

931
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: when she's with us. After six. It's eighteen past five now.

932
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: The Phoenix have announced their new interim coach ahead of

933
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: this weekend's match against Sidney FC. And who better to

934
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: do the job than Chris Greenacre, the man who's done

935
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: it three times before. Sean gill is the Phoenix's football

936
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: direct down with us. Now, Hey Sean, Hello Heather. He

937
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: does deserve to get the job permanently, now, doesn't he?

938
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, Look he's done. He's done a stealing job with

939
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 11: us over a number of years now. And you know

940
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 11: we will go through that process with Greennie as we

941
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 11: get through this week and then into next week and

942
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 11: work all through those details.

943
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: Why is he only doing one week when you clearly

944
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: need him for the rest of the season.

945
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 11: Look, the intention is for the rest of the season

946
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 11: and potentially beyond but with everything moving so quickly, you know,

947
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 11: in order to tie the eyes and cross the t's,

948
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 11: and also with the big focus that we have this week,

949
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 11: we just want to you know, he wants to focus

950
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 11: on this week, the club want to focus on this week,

951
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 11: and then we'll just finalize those details in the coming week.

952
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want, I don't want to put

953
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: you under the pump, but I feel like I'm about to.

954
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: But Sean, So, wasn't it that I'm sorry in advance

955
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: for this question, Sean. Wasn't it the case that you

956
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: guys were like, hey, can you do the rest of

957
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: the season and he was like, nah, I'm just going

958
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: to do one week. Is that what happened?

959
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 12: No?

960
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 11: No, not at all, not at all. When I when

961
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 11: I caught up with Greeneie on Saturday y night, he

962
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 11: was he was holy in you know, the measure of

963
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 11: the man is it's not a contract in place with

964
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 11: him for the for the for the role in the moment,

965
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 11: but he's prepared to jump in and we finished that,

966
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 11: finish those discussions in due course.

967
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: Now shut when Chief e Quip did you know this

968
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: was coming up? Was this something you guys had been

969
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: discussing for some weeks or was that just a bolt

970
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: out of the blue?

971
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 11: No, I wasn't a bolt out of the blue. I mean,

972
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 11: you can't have six losses on the trot against your

973
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 11: your your rivals, and you know the change needed to

974
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 11: be made, and you know, after discussions with chief he

975
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 11: post the game, you know he made the decision that

976
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 11: designing was in the best interest of himself in the

977
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 11: football club.

978
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: Does changing a coach have like? Do you reckon it's

979
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: going to have that much of a difference when you're

980
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: you're still playing, You're still playing with the same players.

981
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 11: You are, But sometimes the change in voice, the change

982
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 11: of messaging, you know, little tweaks here and there across

983
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 11: the week can give you that bounce. And I watched

984
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 11: a lot of football over the years, and you know,

985
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 11: you do see a lot of times changing coach and

986
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 11: a change in fortunes.

987
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: Do you reckon that they'd just given up? Is that

988
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: what had happened?

989
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 7: Oh?

990
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 11: No, I don't think forretional athletes ever give up. You know,

991
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 11: I think there was a lot riding on that particular

992
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 11: football game, and you know the way a couple of

993
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 11: goals unfolded, you know, psychologically was probably damaging. But I

994
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 11: definitely don't think players give up ever.

995
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: Give me the chance and you think that they can

996
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: make the playoffs, but.

997
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 11: That is always our goal hither but we don't want

998
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 11: to get ahead of ourselves now, you know. Right now,

999
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 11: we just need to win a football game and that's

1000
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 11: our that's our main focus. You know, get the boys

1001
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 11: on the training pitch tomorrow. So who wants to put

1002
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 11: their hand up for the game on Sunday in Sydney,

1003
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 11: you see, and you know, get through that game, hopefully

1004
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 11: with three points, and then you know, focus on the

1005
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 11: next one. The short term has to be our key,

1006
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 11: key focus.

1007
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, best of luck with it, Sean. Can't be an

1008
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: easy position to be and Sean gil Wellington, Phoenix Director

1009
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: of Football. Five twenty one, let's talk about you be next.

1010
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 2: The name you trumped to get the answers you need.

1011
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: It's Heather du plus Ellen Drive with One New Zealand

1012
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: coverage like no one else news talk.

1013
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: Wow, Heather, you finally did a sports interview that didn't

1014
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: make me cringe. Good questions, Great job, Thank you, Miles,

1015
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 3: Thank you Miles. Five twenty four. Now listening to Chris

1016
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: Hopkins's State of the Nation's speech today. It was really

1017
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: hard to take him seriously because the speech was mostly

1018
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: just a list of the things that are wrong with

1019
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: the country at the moment, most of which anyone who

1020
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: can remember back five, six, seven years knows was caused

1021
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: by him. Grant, Jusinda and Adrian or like. Listen to

1022
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: this line. I see young New Zealanders, smart, hard working,

1023
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: full of potential, making calculations that no young person should

1024
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: have to do. I stay in the country I love,

1025
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: or do I leave to build the life I've worked for.

1026
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 3: It breaks my heart. Well, it shouldn't break his heart

1027
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: because he was warned about it. When he and j

1028
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: Cinder and Grant were contemplating long lockdowns for Auckland at

1029
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 3: the tail end of the pandemic, they were explicitly warned

1030
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: by Treasury that young people would suffer the most.

1031
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: I quote.

1032
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: The negative consequences are that low employment and income rates

1033
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: are shown to persist for young people well after recessions

1034
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: have waned Treasury Advice, thirteenth of twenty one. Now we've

1035
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: already spent long enough debating whether the lockdowns should have happened.

1036
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: We don't have to do that again. But the consequence

1037
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 3: of those lockdowns is there in black and white. Young

1038
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: people bear the consequences mostly so he can hardly complain

1039
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: now that young people are the ones who are leaving

1040
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: the country. It was predicted. He's complaining about affordability. It

1041
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: was during his government that inflation spiked at seven point

1042
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: three percent. Some of it, yes, was global, A lot

1043
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 3: of it was Grant Robertson allowing Adrian order print billions

1044
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: of dollars. Again, right or wrong, we can debate that,

1045
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: but it was his government actions that led to the

1046
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: affordability that he's complaining about. He complains about unemployment. Unemployment

1047
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: is there because of the recession that Adrian all engineered

1048
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: to bring down the inflation that was, as I just said,

1049
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: created by him and Grant. Now, I'm not defending the

1050
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: National led government. That's not my job. Frankly, I think

1051
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: they could have done a lot more to tidy up

1052
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: the government's books. That's woeful, but they did not create

1053
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: the mess that Chippy is complaining about. It beyond ironic

1054
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: to have him standing there saying, oh, look what a

1055
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: mess this is and proposing to be the man to

1056
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: fix the mess when he was part of the team

1057
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: Nate right up there in the top three of the

1058
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: team that created.

1059
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: The mess together. Do for see Ellen here they have

1060
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: you caught.

1061
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: Up on the N bomb that was delivered at the bafters.

1062
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: John Richardson, a real person on whom the film I

1063
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 3: Swear was based on has Turett's and unfortunately he involuntarily

1064
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: called Michael B. Jordan the N word on camera. Yes,

1065
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: the timing of it was it was exceptionally awkward because

1066
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: Michael B. Jordan is sort of busy talking and then

1067
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 3: there's just this tiny little break in his chat when

1068
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: old mate just yells out the N word. Now we've

1069
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: beeped it, so don't you're not going to hear it.

1070
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: But this is how it played out.

1071
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 20: Ah Yola and.

1072
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 6: I are belady to be presenting the first BAFT of

1073
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 6: the night for a vital part of movie making.

1074
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: We're here to Sullivan and.

1075
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 3: He just doesn't break a stride. So anyway, that's an

1076
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: awkward thing that happened at the BAFT is that no

1077
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: one's gonna forget. Also, the other thing that was that's

1078
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: probably one of the headlines, is that William and Kate

1079
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: came out and looked absolutely amazing and just I'm not

1080
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: one to fall over the royals, because I think the

1081
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: whole thing is just a ridiculous charade that costs way

1082
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: too much money and actually has no value whatsoever to

1083
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: give us. But they how embarrassing. Uncle Andrew's just been arrested.

1084
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 3: They came out, They just handled it with a plump.

1085
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 3: She wore a beautiful Gucci gown. She actually she's had

1086
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: the thing in the closet for seven years, wore it

1087
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: before in twenty nineteen, wore it again today.

1088
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: Who cares?

1089
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: It looks beautiful. He wore a burgundy velvet jacket, which

1090
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: is very It was very James Bond. And they just, yeah,

1091
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: they conducted themselves like anybody would be proud to have

1092
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 3: conducted themselves like that in the face of a family scandal.

1093
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: News is next.

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Speaker 3: They'd being you know, a huddle standard by Pickle of

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Speaker 3: Willises of us after six here the stop being mean

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Speaker 3: to Chippy. He doesn't know about money, talk about sausage rolls.

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Speaker 3: That's a bit mean. Normally that would be that would

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Speaker 3: normal cases be too mean. But because you mentioned sausage

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Speaker 3: rolls just elevated the level of humor enough to kind

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Speaker 3: of scrape across. I'm not gonna lie. So it's a

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Speaker 3: low bar on that. One twenty four away from six. Now,

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Speaker 3: despite the state of the economy, there's one profession that's

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Speaker 3: been benefiting from pretty solid pay rises, and that's local councilors.

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Speaker 3: The average salary of district and city councilors went up

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Speaker 3: nine point eight one percent last year, and the biggest

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Speaker 3: salary increase was at the Western Bay of Plenty District Council,

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Speaker 3: where the average salary went up fifty seven percent to

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Speaker 3: just shy of eighty one thousand dollars. Now, the remuneration

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Speaker 3: authority of the guys who set the salaries, or at

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Speaker 3: least the overall pool, and Jeff Summers is the chair.

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Speaker 3: He's with us now, Hi, Jeff, Yeah, how how did

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Speaker 3: the Western Bay of Plenty Council go up so much?

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Speaker 16: Well, they haven't actually, and and I don't know where

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Speaker 16: those figures came from. I Knowed as a Plenty lobby

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Speaker 16: of political lobby group has been banding figures around, but

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Speaker 16: we don't know where they got them from. But we

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Speaker 16: haven't set the Western Bay of Plenty district councils salaries yet.

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Speaker 16: In fact, that's going to come up at our next meeting.

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Speaker 16: We set the poll and then as a consultation process

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Speaker 16: to allow local factors to be brought into the mix,

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Speaker 16: we asked the local council to put a proposal to

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Speaker 16: us on how they would allocate that poll and then

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Speaker 16: we look at it. Now I understand their allocation has

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Speaker 16: come true to us, but we haven't dealt with that

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Speaker 16: yet and we don't always agree. We have sent them

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Speaker 16: back on occasions, but I'd be very surprised if the

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Speaker 16: fifty seven percent their pooll was one of the larger ones,

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Speaker 16: because after the local government elections we do a review

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Speaker 16: of the entire sector, which is really complicated as you

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Speaker 16: can imagine the seventy six different councils, and they were

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Speaker 16: one of the bigger ones. Their pool went up about

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Speaker 16: twenty three percent because their population and expenditure and assets

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Speaker 16: and so forth had all increased, as had the estimated

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Speaker 16: workload of the council has gone from point five to

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Speaker 16: point six. Now, they also got from the Local Government

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Speaker 16: Commission commissioned last year to reduce the number of councilors

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Speaker 16: from eleven to nine. So we've now got nine people

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Speaker 16: doing the work that eleven people used to do. And

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Speaker 16: most people would say, if I'm going to be doing

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Speaker 16: more work than what you know some other people used

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Speaker 16: to do, I want more money for it. So I

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Speaker 16: would expect that they would have got a reasonable increase,

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Speaker 16: but you know a number of councils got very little.

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Speaker 16: That's the way the system works.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, Jeff, can I ask you some questions if

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Speaker 3: you don't mind. So, is it possible that you've set

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Speaker 3: the pool for the Western Bay of Plenty, which is

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and thirty odd thousand dollars split between nine counselors,

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Speaker 3: comes out at eighty thousand, eighty one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 16: Yes, well, yeah, it won't because they don't do it

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Speaker 16: that way.

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Speaker 3: But okay, that's and so if you say yes to

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Speaker 3: their proposal, then it will be a fifty seven percent

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Speaker 3: pay increase.

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Speaker 16: No, because all nine of them won't be getting the

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Speaker 16: same amount an average, isn't there will be Well, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 16: you can work on averages heither, But I'm not allowed to.

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Speaker 16: I've got to be accurate. The law requires me to

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Speaker 16: do certain things.

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Speaker 3: How did you back up their pay that much, though,

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Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to get to. How did you

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Speaker 3: make the pool go up that much.

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Speaker 16: Simply by reference to the entire sector? Now, it is

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Speaker 16: really complicated, and unfortunately that's not useful for radio. I

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Speaker 16: understand that. But after we did this system about eight

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Speaker 16: years ago, because nobody had found the restable system for

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Speaker 16: paying local government to that date, there was an awful

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Speaker 16: lot of work went into it, and after each local

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Speaker 16: government election we spend months doing this and some On

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Speaker 16: every occasion, there will be one council that gets lucky

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Speaker 16: because they're factors like population and so forth, had will

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Speaker 16: have gone up more than everybody else's, and others won't

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Speaker 16: have gone up very much at all, and they won't

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Speaker 16: literally get anything out of it. But you know, this

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Speaker 16: year Western Bayer plenty was one of the lucky ones.

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Speaker 16: But there were some really good reasons for that. Their

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Speaker 16: population that the councilors look after has increased, Their operating

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Speaker 16: expenditure has gone up thirty five percent, the assets they

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Speaker 16: control have gone up twenty six percent. You know, there

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Speaker 16: are some big responsibilities that councilors whole.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jeff, thank you for running us through it. Appreciated, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: your CICTA sound lovely. Jeff Summer's Remuneration Authority Chair, twenty

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Speaker 3: away from six the huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name you can trust

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Speaker 3: On the huddle of this this evening, we have Trish

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Speaker 3: Shurson Shurson, Willis pr and Joseph A Gunny, chief executive

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Speaker 3: of Child Found. Hello you too. Hello. I regret, I

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Speaker 3: regret how I regret, Trish, the deep type that we

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Speaker 3: just did into that.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I wandered off. I think I was somewhere back

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Speaker 14: when I was eighteen on a trip to Russia.

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Speaker 3: All I know is these dudes get paid, maybe much.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, though, Trish, because it's set by

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Speaker 3: the remunerational Authority, there's literally nothing we can do about today.

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Speaker 3: We just have to suck up how much these people

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Speaker 3: get paid.

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Speaker 21: Yes we do. But kudos to Jeff from the Remuneration

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Speaker 21: Authority because I think when he said, look, these things

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Speaker 21: are complicated to explain on radio, I think he's right.

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Speaker 21: I think It's easy for us right to look at

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Speaker 21: these headline figures and make assumptions, but there is a

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Speaker 21: lot more to it in the background. And I also

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Speaker 21: think you can't just take the rays. You've got a

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Speaker 21: look where that remuneration was set, and if I was

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Speaker 21: reading the numbers rightly, it was around forty seven k

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Speaker 21: I think currently for a counselor. If you went and

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Speaker 21: divided that by the amount of hours that a really good,

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Speaker 21: hard working councilor was putting in, I think you would

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Speaker 21: find the hourly rate on that would be fairly low.

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Speaker 21: So I think that's the part of it that you

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Speaker 21: have to think about. And we can all look at

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Speaker 21: a figure and go wow, eighty seven thousand dollars for

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Speaker 21: a counselor is a lot. But again I always break

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Speaker 21: these things down into an hourly rate and the risk

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Speaker 21: and the hours that these guys do have to put in.

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Speaker 21: Regardless of what we think of you know, what comes

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Speaker 21: out of councils, it is a really big, time intensive job.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, But Josie is the problem here though,

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Speaker 3: not that we are so dissatisfied with our counselors and

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Speaker 3: we're so grumpy about the service we're getting that any

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Speaker 3: money actually frankly feels like too much.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 14: So that's the bigger problem, isn't it. Because the problem

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Speaker 14: we don't have is that we've got way two talented counselors.

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Speaker 3: Who you know, are being paid too much. That's not

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Speaker 3: the problem we have.

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Speaker 14: We have a problem where running for counselor is something

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Speaker 14: you do if you've got nothing else to do.

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Speaker 3: You have Tory Farno as your mayor, Like that is

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Speaker 3: how how low equality is? Yeah or yeah?

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Speaker 14: Or it's a golden handshake for an ex MP let alone.

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Speaker 14: I want to be MP like Tory Faro was. So

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Speaker 14: you get so you end up having these sort of

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Speaker 14: you know, retirement jobs for former MPs or somebody who's

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Speaker 14: done something in the in the community. And so we

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Speaker 14: want better candidates. And why on earth would you stand

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Speaker 14: for local government? I mean, it's hard enough to get

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Speaker 14: people to stand for central government. Why would you stand

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Speaker 14: for local government? So I think that's actually the bigger problem.

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Speaker 14: And I agree, Trisha. I don't begrudge, you know, I

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Speaker 14: don't begrudge people who decide to do public service and

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Speaker 14: put in the hours and do it.

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Speaker 3: We need them to do it. Yeah, Okay, what do

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Speaker 3: you think, Trisha of the move on powers.

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Speaker 21: I think that moving a problem too blocks over isn't

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Speaker 21: solving it. I have a problem with the fourteen limit,

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Speaker 21: fourteen year age limit. In terms of these new powers.

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Speaker 21: I do feel for police, this is another problem that's

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Speaker 21: been shunted down the line for them. And let's remember

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Speaker 21: what's mixed up in this problem is a whole lot

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Speaker 21: of stuff, not least of which mental health problems. On

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Speaker 21: the flip side of that, I have been very saddened

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Speaker 21: by the state of Central Auckland, particularly in the last

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Speaker 21: six years. When I moved to Auckland at sixteen in

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Speaker 21: nineteen ninety and we would come into town on.

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Speaker 3: A Friday, and to me, it was like going to

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Speaker 3: New York.

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Speaker 21: I just thought it was so amazing.

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Speaker 3: There was a huge vibe.

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Speaker 21: I think the culture shift in town after COVID has

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Speaker 21: really impacted it. We're on a Friday, everyone would finish

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Speaker 21: work and they'd go to drinks and that just fill

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Speaker 21: the city right up with a lot of life. Now

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Speaker 21: everyone just wants to get out and go home. But

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Speaker 21: we've talked a lot in the huddle between the three

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Speaker 21: of us about sort of headline policies that when you

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Speaker 21: get under the skin of them, aren't really addressing the

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Speaker 21: key problems. And that's my fear with this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Okay, I want your thoughts, but I

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Speaker 3: want them after the break, if that's okay, Josie. It's

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Speaker 3: quarter two.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only

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Speaker 3: Right, it's thirteen away from six and you're back with

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Speaker 3: the Huddle Trischerson and Joe Spaghani. Right, Josie, what are

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on the move on orders?

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Speaker 14: Well, I agree with Trish. You don't solve it simpeople.

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Speaker 14: I'm moving at two blocks down. You've got to consult

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Speaker 14: with the housing charities that are out there. If they're

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Speaker 14: saying there's nowhere for them to go, then there's nowhere

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Speaker 14: for them to go. But I also know that you

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Speaker 14: don't solve it by doing on the other side of

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Speaker 14: the political spectrum of sort of renaming it unhoused and

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Speaker 14: like that did in San Francisco, where they just allocated

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Speaker 14: a whole area and everybody put up their tents and

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Speaker 14: basically they're destroyed the city. So we need better ideas

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Speaker 14: than that. When and we do need to resource the

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Speaker 14: call problems. I mean, that's the obvious thing. So and

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Speaker 14: everybody knows that we're just pulling a head.

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Speaker 3: I thought Carl Tiffanbarker of Wellington City Council kind of

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Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head. He was like, everybody's

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Speaker 3: calling this how a homelessness problem is actually a drug

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Speaker 3: addiction problem and a mental health problem And just from

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Speaker 3: what I am seeing when I walk around Auckland, that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm seeing. Yeah, all right, now, Josie, what do

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Speaker 3: you think of Chippy's speech? Were you convinced that you're like,

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Speaker 3: this is the guy to fix the problems?

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Speaker 14: Well, I know it was full of platitudes. It did

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Speaker 14: sound a little bit like it had been run through

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Speaker 14: a translation service three times. But he's trying to be boring, right,

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Speaker 14: and he succeeded. So he's trying to do a different

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Speaker 14: thing than what Jacinda did. So he's not promising everything.

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Speaker 14: He's not giving a whole list of things that he's

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Speaker 14: going to do. He's going to say, you know, we're

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Speaker 14: going to do jobs, health, housing and so on. So

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Speaker 14: he's hitting the right notes. The problem he's got is

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Speaker 14: he hasn't ruled out some of the daft things that

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Speaker 14: happened Undersindra Dune's labor government. So all of those things

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Speaker 14: that we look at now, like the ban on oil

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Speaker 14: and gas, like the electric car subsidy, the cycle way

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Speaker 14: across the Harbor Bridge, none of those were in the

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Speaker 14: pre election manifestos for Labor. They were all surprises. So

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Speaker 14: I think what he needs to do to get you know,

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Speaker 14: people like you and others saying okay, I get it

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Speaker 14: that you've seen what we've seen. He needs to go Yep.

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Speaker 14: That stuff was not in the election manifesto. There wasn't

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Speaker 14: really a mandate for it, and we did muck that up,

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Speaker 14: you know, And I am ruling that out because otherwise

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Speaker 14: he's just going to get every question like will you

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Speaker 14: rule out this? Will you rule out Lake Conslow? And

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Speaker 14: as Trisha said, you know already kind of saying we

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Speaker 14: were talking about this in the break, but already ruling

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Speaker 14: out the LNG, you know, facilities. So you might not

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Speaker 14: like that, but it's something that we're trying to get

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Speaker 14: investors to come in and invest in infrastructure here. And

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Speaker 14: if you've got an opposition MP an opposition leader saying well,

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Speaker 14: we'll rule it out the minute we get in. So

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Speaker 14: there's a bit of negativity there and I think Labor

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Speaker 14: have to be really careful that they don't do a

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Speaker 14: Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton in Australia was ahead in the

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Speaker 14: polls for two years, you know, in opposition to the government,

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Speaker 14: Labor Albanesi government, and then something happened, and that's something

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Speaker 14: was Trump and he got found out that he didn't

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Speaker 14: have any policies, didn't have a vision because you don't

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Speaker 14: get the feeling that Labor's set around for the last

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Speaker 14: three years working out what they're going to do in government.

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Speaker 14: So everything's going to rest on that promise that should

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Speaker 14: be made to announce good policies and citing.

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Speaker 3: Policies after May. Yeah, what do you think, Trush Well,

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Speaker 3: I was there at the speech.

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Speaker 21: And what interested me is that Chris Hopkins I think

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Speaker 21: is trying to reinvent himself as the anti politician. So

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Speaker 21: he's now been in Parliament since two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 21: so almost twenty years, eighteen years. So he's talking about

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Speaker 21: only going to the election with policies that are affordable

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Speaker 21: and that can actually work. He is talking about those

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Speaker 21: basics like you know, housing and health, and.

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Speaker 14: So nothing anyone would disagree with.

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Speaker 3: Nothing harder the problem, No, exactly, but a lot of it.

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Speaker 21: I think the problem for Chippy is that credibility problem.

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Speaker 21: It's very hard, even when I went today with a

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Speaker 21: beginner's mind, but it's very hard to feel any of

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Speaker 21: that is credible. And I think the other problem and

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Speaker 21: cutos for doing the speech in Auckland, because that's where

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Speaker 21: the fight is and where a labor absolutely lost business

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Speaker 21: last time. But standing in a room of Auckland business

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Speaker 21: people and just repeating words like productivity and innovation and

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Speaker 21: R and D. I can't tell you how many labor

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Speaker 21: press releases I saw under the previous government that talked

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Speaker 21: about the need for.

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Speaker 14: More of those and didn't get there and business bingo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: And overall it reminded me of that saying of Barack

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Speaker 21: Obama where he said I have a lot of people

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Speaker 21: who can tell me the what, but very few who

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Speaker 21: can tell me the why. And I think that's Hipkins's problem.

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Speaker 14: To be fair, he is trying, and you can see

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Speaker 14: this in the narrative by saying, you know, we got

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Speaker 14: some things wrong last time. We've got to not over promise.

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Speaker 14: We can't over promise one hundred thousand ki we houses

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Speaker 14: and then not deliver them.

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Speaker 3: So he knows welcome to basic work like this.

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Speaker 14: Yes, but at least he's saying the right thing. And

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Speaker 14: this is what I mean. If they come up with

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Speaker 14: some policies, and they have come up with capital gains tax,

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Speaker 14: a very very tiny, small one, it's the sort of

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Speaker 14: slim you know, Latin. But yeah, if they come up

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Speaker 14: with some good policies and may then that narrative will

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Speaker 14: start to set in that he's not going to do

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Speaker 14: a just under a doing government.

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Speaker 21: But the problem is, and this is where they to

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Speaker 21: be saying categorically today that if they are government, they

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Speaker 21: will absolutely not go through with the L and G

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Speaker 21: terminal that the government's committed to. So the problem with

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Speaker 21: that is on the other hand, he's saying, when it

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Speaker 21: comes to infrastructure, we have to have a long stable

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Speaker 21: pipeline and we have to work.

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Speaker 14: Together, not on this spot, but not anything national, not

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Speaker 14: on this one.

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Speaker 21: So already you're like, well, what else is? Are we

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Speaker 21: just going to have governments from here that are a

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Speaker 21: pendulum that swing. Yeah, and most of your time in

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Speaker 21: government is just checking out what the other lot did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point to mate.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 3: It's always lovely to talk to you. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much appreciated, Tricious and Joe Speagani our huddle this evening

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: seven away from six, it's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 3: Hey, I have got some good news. This is Reconvita,

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01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: because of course, if you've been following the story of Convita,

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Speaker 3: you'll know that there was that massive disaster with the

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Speaker 3: overvaluing of the honey and then everything that happened afterwards.

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Speaker 3: They have now turned around a loss of about six

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Speaker 3: mil last year into a net profit close to five

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Speaker 3: mil this year. So we'll talk to Carl Graden, chief

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Speaker 3: executive after half past six, but before that obviously Shane

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Speaker 3: Soley on how the markets have reacted to this business

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Speaker 3: from Donald Trump flip flopping O and going crazy on tariffs. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think this is quite interesting, MPI. The Ministry of

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Speaker 3: what is it Primary Industries is cutting what it charges

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Speaker 3: you to take your pets out of the country because

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Speaker 3: it is just making too much money from charging people

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Speaker 3: to take their pets out of the country.

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Speaker 2: So so.

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Speaker 3: And this is Basically, this comes directly back to how

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Speaker 3: many people are leaving New Zealand and then taking their

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Speaker 3: pets with them. So last year people exported more than

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Speaker 3: six and a half thousand cats and dogs, which is

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Speaker 3: a lot higher than what it normally is. On average,

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Speaker 3: it is around about four thousand a year. The good

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Speaker 3: news is it is coming back off its peaks, so

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Speaker 3: we're probably through the worst of it. The peak was

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. It's seven three hundred odd. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: they're normally charge close to about one hundred and fifteen dollars.

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Speaker 3: They're cutting that down to about sixty seven dollars because

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Speaker 3: NPI is only supposed to cover its costs. It's not

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Speaker 3: actually supposed to make money out of this just for

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Speaker 3: the sake of making money. But that is how many

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Speaker 3: people are leaving New Zealand for good and taking their pets.

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Speaker 3: So a thing to consider, isn't it. Nikola Willis is

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Speaker 3: with us next News Talks every.

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Speaker 1: We're Business Meets Insight, The Business Hour with Heather Duplessy,

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Speaker 1: Alan and Mas Insurance and Investments, Your Futures in Good

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01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: Hands News Talks.

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Speaker 12: There be.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up for the next hour. Shane Soley

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: will talk us through how the markets reacted to Trump's

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01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: tariff's news over the weekend, convite his boss on how

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Speaker 3: the company's turnaround is going. And Gavin Gray with the

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Speaker 3: latest revelations about Andrew seven par six and Nicol Willis

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Speaker 3: the finance ministers with US High Nichola hither So when

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Speaker 3: Genesis asked for money for the capital raised, why not

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Speaker 3: say no?

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Speaker 22: Because we made a commitment last year we said the

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Speaker 22: government won't stand in the way of any of the

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Speaker 22: major energy generators wanting to invest in the firming capacity

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Speaker 22: in particular that the New Zealand energy system needs. And

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Speaker 22: we had presented to us of you that because the

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Speaker 22: government has a legal obligation to maintain its fifty one

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Speaker 22: percent stake in Genesis, that in the absence of committing

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Speaker 22: extra capital, that would prevent them doing the growth plans

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Speaker 22: that New Zealand needs. So by providing a share of capital,

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Speaker 22: we both allow them to grow the security of New

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Speaker 22: Zealand energy supply and we maintain our legal obligation to

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Speaker 22: keep a fifty one percent share.

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Speaker 3: Are you campaigning possibly this year on selling down the

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Speaker 3: power companies?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 23: Well?

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Speaker 22: The government position is to maintain the fifty one percent share.

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Speaker 22: And as to National's position on the future of those

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Speaker 22: energy companies, we haven't taken our position on that.

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Speaker 3: But so we could actually be in the situation here

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Speaker 3: where we've bumped in two hundred million dollars and then

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Speaker 3: after the next selection we sell it down again.

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Speaker 22: Well, I think there's a lot of water to go

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Speaker 22: onto the bridge before you'd make that conclusion. What this

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Speaker 22: two hundred million dollars is there to support as a

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Speaker 22: pipeline of new development that's keeping Huntly going. They're looking

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Speaker 22: at options for gas storage, They're continuing to expand their

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Speaker 22: renewable energy generation. So what this investment is about is

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Speaker 22: ensuring reliable, secure electricity supply for New Zealand, and that

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Speaker 22: is a priority that stacks up as something we as

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Speaker 22: a government want to achieve.

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Speaker 3: Hey, are you guys at the moment actively considering an

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Speaker 3: alternative an alternative way to pay for the lery terminal

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Speaker 3: rather than a levy.

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Speaker 22: That's going through a procurement process at the moment to

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Speaker 22: determine whose best place to build that and what the

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Speaker 22: detailed costs of that would be and what their pricing

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Speaker 22: model would be. So we haven't considered those bids as

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Speaker 22: they've come through yet.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but what about the levy. Is it possible that

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Speaker 3: we never end up with the levy, we end up

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Speaker 3: with some other mechanism to pay for them.

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Speaker 22: Correct, Well, we do need to be very thorough about

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Speaker 22: the procurement process to make sure that as the detailed

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Speaker 22: comes through, the benefits which we've had outlined to us

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Speaker 22: in theory way with the costs which we've had outlined

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Speaker 22: to us in theory. And so the costs are very

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Speaker 22: relevant to that equation. As we've said, this is a

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Speaker 22: proposal we want to go ahead with because we're convinced

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Speaker 22: that it will reduce electricity prices for households and businesses,

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Speaker 22: and that's the basis on which we've entered into it.

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Speaker 22: I do want to note reporting in the energy sector

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Speaker 22: shows that those forward looking wholesale prices have actually already

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Speaker 22: come down a little bit following the LNG.

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Speaker 3: Malcolm John's of Genesis said, you can't be sure it's

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Speaker 3: because of the LNG terminal.

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Speaker 22: Well, it's always very hard to know when prices move

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Speaker 22: in a market exactly what it is. But certainly some

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Speaker 22: commentators are of the view that that is seen as

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Speaker 22: a reduced risk in the future, it's un effected in

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Speaker 22: the forward price.

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Speaker 3: David Seymour, the reason I'm asking about this levy and

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Speaker 3: I am aware that you're not answering the question. David

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Speaker 3: Seymour was on the show last week and he said

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Speaker 3: there was the possibility that you would not be introducing

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Speaker 3: the levy and you'd think about another way to pay

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Speaker 3: for the terminal. Is that the truth?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think he and I are saying the same

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Speaker 22: thing in different ways, which is that we do need

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Speaker 22: to go through with this procurement process very carefully. I

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Speaker 22: share his intent and I think all New Zealanders would

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Speaker 22: want us to, which is we have to make sure

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Speaker 22: it stacks up, that the costs aren't such that actually

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Speaker 22: we end up passing on price to households. We don't

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Speaker 22: want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Are you rethinking the terminal altogether.

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Speaker 22: No, we're actively in a procurement process. We want to

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Speaker 22: go ahead with an LNG two. We need to make

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Speaker 22: sure we get well, we need to get We need

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Speaker 22: to make sure that the proposal we go ahead with

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Speaker 22: meets this team cool.

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Speaker 3: Happy to hear it. Okay, now, this credit card sur

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Speaker 3: charge band, can you confirm it's being killed.

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Speaker 22: We are considering the feedback that we receive through the

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Speaker 22: Select Committee. On the one hand, we think it's very

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Speaker 22: important consumers should pay the price they see on the shelf.

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Speaker 22: On the other hand, as you know, there were real

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Speaker 22: concerns raised about adding costs to small business, and there

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Speaker 22: were some proposals for some ways that those costs could

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Speaker 22: be made a gated So we're working through that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So is it going to happen before the election?

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Speaker 22: Well, look, as I say, we're working through the detail

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01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 22: of the feedback on the proposal, and so I'm just

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Speaker 22: not in a position to make that commitment.

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Speaker 3: Now, why can't you just answer any of these questions straight?

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Speaker 3: They're really sympathy.

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Speaker 22: Because whenever I speak here that I speak on behalf

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Speaker 22: of KEBNET and Cabinet hasn't made that. Winston has gone

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Speaker 22: ahead of Kebnet.

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Speaker 3: Winston is saying it's dead in the water. It's not

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Speaker 3: going to happen. So if Winston look at his polling Nikola,

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01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 3: he's going up in the polls because he answers it straight.

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01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: He gives us straight answers and speaks English. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: is that maybe some feedback that's worth considering is he

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 3: said it's dead? Why don't you say it's dead?

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Speaker 22: Well feedbacks gaft, thank you for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, okay, what's going on with you guys trying

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: to find a candidate in North Wellington? Why doesn't anybody

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 3: want to stand for the Nats?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 22: Well, we've got a selection process underway and I'm very

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Speaker 22: confident that we will select a candidate there, and so

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Speaker 22: nothing to see there. Really, our selection processes are always

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Speaker 22: confidential and we'll select a great candidate. And of course,

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Speaker 22: as is the case with every electorate around the country,

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Speaker 22: the vote that matters the most that we ask our

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Speaker 22: candidates to campaign for is the party vote. And a

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Speaker 22: party vote in Wellington North is worth exactly the same

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Speaker 22: as a party vote in the safest national seat in

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Speaker 22: the country.

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody thought you were going to stand there.

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Speaker 3: Why aren't you standing there?

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Speaker 22: Well, actually, going even back to the last election, I

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Speaker 22: had people in the party saying, please, could you not

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Speaker 22: stand in a Wellington electorate. We don't want you running

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01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 22: up and downhills, door knocking when you should be out

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Speaker 22: selling our economic plan and going up and down the

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Speaker 22: country talking about New Zealand's financial position. So the Party

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Speaker 22: have for a long time said, look, focus on that role,

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Speaker 22: and I judged at this election, much as Grant Robertson,

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Speaker 22: Bill English and Michael Cullen did before me, that that

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Speaker 22: is in fact the job I should be focused on.

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Speaker 3: Is the Mount VAC Tunnel going ahead or not? After

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Speaker 3: what Bush said last week.

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Speaker 22: Well, it is going ahead in the sense that the

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Speaker 22: investment case has been signed off by the NZTA and

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Speaker 22: geotechnical workers currently occurring. There have been drills in the

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Speaker 22: ground assessing the ground and therefore what that means for

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Speaker 22: the construction. What we're also doing is we're looking at

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Speaker 22: all of the roads of national significance to determine what

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Speaker 22: order do we sequence these in and how do we

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Speaker 22: make sure that we fund them in the most appropriate way.

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Speaker 22: Do we use time of use charging, do we use tolls?

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Speaker 22: How much taxpayer money do we put in and how

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Speaker 22: does that sit alongside our really important obligation to be

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Speaker 22: maintaining the roads we already have.

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Speaker 3: So when is construction starting on the Mount VCT Tunnel.

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Speaker 22: We haven't decided that date, are you?

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Speaker 3: Can you assure us that it will happen in the

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Speaker 3: next term's Look.

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Speaker 22: The projects all go as I say there's literally work

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Speaker 22: happening at the moment, geotechnical work which they're already spending

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Speaker 22: millions on, and we are committed to that tunnel.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Nichol. I appreciate it. Nichola will As

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Speaker 3: Finance Minister.

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Speaker 1: Forte past six, It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full

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Speaker 1: Show podcast on my Heart Radio powered by Newstalgs EBB.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,480
Speaker 1: Allen on the Business Hour with mass Insurance and investments.

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Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands, Used dogs EDB listen.

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Speaker 3: Update on the three dogs. I think I think we've

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 3: now established it's the three dogs that killed the women

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01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: in Northland last week. They have now been killed. Police

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01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: also reckon that they may have established that there were

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Speaker 3: two incidents where those dogs did chase cyclists, one in

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Speaker 3: November one in December. The trouble is, by the sounds

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Speaker 3: of things, they have got information from other people rather

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Speaker 3: than the people who were chased by the dogs. So

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Speaker 3: they need to get a hold of the cyclist. So

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Speaker 3: if you are the cyclists, help them out with their investigation.

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Speaker 3: It's eighteen past six and with US now Shane solely

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Speaker 3: harbor asset management. Hi Shane, Hey, are you that all right?

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Speaker 3: So have the markets reacted to the US tariff changes?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, that's an interesting one, but paus but cautious is

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 23: probably the best way putting it, given us on off well,

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Speaker 23: more like off on type nature of the announcement. So

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Speaker 23: Friday we saw the US share market up zero point

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Speaker 23: seven percent after the Supreme Court overturned the APA composed

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Speaker 23: tariffs and as the Trump come out, so well, that's

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Speaker 23: all right, I'm going to do ten percent on the

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01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 23: on the section on two of the balance of payment stack,

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Speaker 23: and then over the weekend, you see it's going to

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Speaker 23: increase that fifteen percent. A ten percent tariff cut rate

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 23: would have been helpful for New Zealand given we're on fifteen.

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Speaker 23: So we're back on fifteen one where it has been

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 23: beast for is Asian supply chain countries, which are on

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Speaker 23: more like twenty percent plus. So if they're on fifteen,

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01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 23: that's good. It's good for US firms and consumers, and

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 23: we actually saw that part of the US economy do

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 23: well anything exposed to that Asian supply chain. But look,

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01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 23: tariff's probably going to remain a short term source of volatility.

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Speaker 3: I thinkgether what about the refunds, I mean, what does

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 3: that mean for the US government's financial position.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, that's what's standing that. Certainly the Supreme Court didn't

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01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 23: address this. It's estimated it's about one hundred and thirty

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 23: billion of tariffs that are subject to potential refund in. Certainly,

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01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 23: I think that it's going to end up in the

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Speaker 23: Court of International Trade. It's probably going to see a

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 23: lot of firms spend a lot of money to try

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Speaker 23: and get that tariff back. Interestingly, Scott Decent, Trudury Secretary

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Speaker 23: has said, look, these changes are going to be all

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01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 23: pretty neutral for the US for school situation, So he's

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01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 23: not letting on about any tax reefhones, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: And do the changes, the tariff changes have any particular

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01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 3: implications for New Zealand or New Zealand companies.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, Look, I think it is good for our manufacturers

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01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 23: like Fictionional Biple and scale up and produce exports like

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 23: skills and simple. But while the tariffs might be less

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 23: worse either lower or for a shorter duration because the

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Speaker 23: one twenty two doesn't have the same duration of time,

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Speaker 23: I'm going to see some more detail. You know, a

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01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 23: lot of businesses that may have pushed through price increases

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01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 23: to try and recover some of that tariffs, so they

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Speaker 23: might actually have to give a little bit of this back.

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 23: But yeah, we're going to out interesting today here. The

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Speaker 23: Fish and pikere come out with quite a nice profit upgrade,

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 23: taking profit up to four fifty to four seven. Email

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Speaker 23: share prices up almost four percent, and they didn't actually

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Speaker 23: allow for any potential terif free funds. So assuming how

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Speaker 23: four fit does?

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Speaker 3: Okay, what are the markets allowing for in terms of

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Speaker 3: a strike on a RAN.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, look, you know markets who have been a little

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01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 23: bit weary last week, but nothing major. We did see

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Speaker 23: the US shear market, perhaps not as strong as it

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01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 23: would have been last month, our last week, I should say,

1677
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 23: in anticipated of a risk. But overnight mister Trump has

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01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 23: come out and sad he is leaning towards an initial

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Speaker 23: Iran striking coming days. What we're seeing right now is

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Speaker 23: the US shear market futures that gives us an indication

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Speaker 23: of what might happen. They're down between a half percent

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01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 23: and one percent. Maybe that's about terrifying certainty, but it's

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Speaker 23: also about Iran Probably one of the interesting ones is

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01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 23: what the capital markets are thinking about oil prices and

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01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 23: the oil supply risk of disruption. West Texas intermediate oil

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Speaker 23: that's one of the benchmarksing around sixty six dollars a

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Speaker 23: barrel US. It's off recently as the fifty five, but

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Speaker 23: it's not the three year avenues, more like seventy or two,

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01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 23: so the market's not getting too worked up just yet.

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Speaker 3: That's good to hear. Hey, thank you very much, Shane.

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Speaker 3: Always appreciate having a chat to you that. Shane Solly

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01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 3: of Harbor Asset Management. Listen, it's just come through today

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01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: that New Zealand Rugby has agreed to sign a new

1694
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,480
Speaker 3: deal with the players. This is the Rugby Players Associations,

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 3: basically the union. It's the usual stuff that you would

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01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: expect in a contract. It's three years, expansion of medical life,

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 3: trauma insurance and so on like that. There are some

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01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: longevity pay parts there, so the longer they stay, the

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Speaker 3: more they get paid. If they are in the women's

1700
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Speaker 3: rugby also in sevens and NBC. Probably the more interesting

1701
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: thing in this is the additional support for the female players.

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 3: So the female players now get the medical life and

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01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: trauma insurance. They also get a greater incentive to stay

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01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 3: in the country because of course the women's rugby league

1705
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 3: over in Australia is trying to win them over the

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Speaker 3: whole time. So the hub based players get twenty five

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01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, the campaign only players get twenty thousand dollars.

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01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 3: I mean we can have a debate about how much

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Speaker 3: the women get paid and whether whether whether it's too

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Speaker 3: little or two much six twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics. It's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather duper Cila and MAS

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: Insurance and investments, Your futures in good hands.

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01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: Used dogs envy hither the problem is not the current

1715
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: dog attacks but the previous ones, like that child in

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Speaker 3: West Stalkland where the dog was impounded and then given

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Speaker 3: back to the owners because the girls survived. I know,

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Speaker 3: Joe mental times now. The reason I was asking Nichola

1719
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 3: Willis about the North North Wellington candidacy thing is because

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Speaker 3: apparently National is really struggling to find one. It's being

1721
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 3: reported by the Post. Nicola Willis was expected to stand there,

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Speaker 3: but then she said in December she wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: do it and it's fair enough. Finance Minister is busy

1724
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 3: enough without having to stand in the seat. Then Scott Shearon,

1725
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Speaker 3: who was a contender, is barristan and an international human

1726
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: rights lawyer, stepped aside. Apparently other candidates have been approached

1727
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Speaker 3: and declined, including the Regional councilor Simon Wolfe. There was

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 3: a mystery candidate who was also lined up but has

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Speaker 3: since withdrawn. As a result, the Wellington Center Electric Committee

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Speaker 3: has had to write to Nationals Board and ask them

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Speaker 3: to delay pre selection. Now, on one hand, fair enough,

1732
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 3: who wants to stand in Wellington because Wellington is just

1733
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 3: going to smash the right wing candidates like that. National

1734
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 3: Party probably hasn't got a show in hell of winning

1735
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 3: that seat. However, these things are usually used to bleed

1736
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 3: new candidates, so young ones will sort of put in

1737
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 3: the effort and raise the party vote and then they'll

1738
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 3: get a good seat later on in another election somewhere.

1739
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: So the fact that there's no one wanting to do

1740
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: it is a bit of a problem, and National might

1741
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 3: want to be and probably are just a wee bit

1742
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 3: worried about that. Six twenty six.

1743
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business. Don't watch made do you?

1744
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 3: Remember the Willy Wonka experience that scammed all those parents

1745
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: out of their money. Might have happened again, this time

1746
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 3: with the K Pop All Stars. The K Pop All

1747
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 3: Stars tribute show was sold as a live concert celebrating

1748
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: K pop stars, but the posters gave the impression it

1749
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 3: was associated with the Netflix phenomenon, the K Pop Demon Hunters,

1750
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 3: and when parents showed up to find out there was

1751
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 3: no affiliation with the movie, they were not happy. I

1752
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 3: am beyond disgusted.

1753
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 7: It was not Camper.

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01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 20: We can sing along to any of the songs, and

1755
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 20: there on any of the songs at the end. And

1756
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 20: there's so many mumies that aren't happy with this, and

1757
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 20: this isn't just me. I am beyond disappointed, and my

1758
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 20: wines are disappointed.

1759
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 3: Yes it says on the ticket.

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01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 7: Yes some parents did not read it, but even.

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 20: In that aspect, I just think it should have been

1762
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 20: more related to the characters and the songs of the movie.

1763
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 3: Yes, so many mummies are disappointed.

1764
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 7: Now.

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01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 3: The issue here is the distinction between k pop the

1766
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: music genre and k Pop Demon Hunters, the brand. Parents

1767
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 3: showed up expecting k Pop Demon Hunter's family friendly little

1768
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 3: kid stuff. No, apparently the dance moves were really ranch

1769
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 3: eh and the costumes were a little revelin, and of

1770
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 3: course there was not a demon Hunter insight anyway. The

1771
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: organizers have defended the show because they say they're aware

1772
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 3: of some of the feedback, but the show will continue

1773
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: on its world tour, I know, unchanged, and it's just

1774
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: supposed to celebrate the whole of the cap pop genre.

1775
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: And they've got the hits from the Bts and the

1776
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: Black Pink and The Cat's Eye, and apparently there are

1777
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 3: eight songs from the Cape Pop Demon Hunters. So maybe

1778
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 3: this is just a hint, but maybe when it comes here,

1779
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 3: just remember what I've just told you. News is next,

1780
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: and then we'll talk to Conveda.

1781
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1782
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: where the head of duper c al and Mass Insurance

1783
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: and investments your futures in good hands, News talks edb.

1784
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: Mighty Prayer for me out and sleep.

1785
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 3: There is in Italy huge outrage about the case of

1786
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 3: Toddler who was given a heart transplant, but the whole

1787
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: thing had been completely botched by the medics. So Gavin

1788
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 3: Gray will run us through that when we with us

1789
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 3: shortly just an update on something that's happened locally. The

1790
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 3: boss of the Teaching Council has quit. This as Leslie Hoskin. Now,

1791
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 3: this will not come as anything of a surprise if

1792
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 3: we've been following what's going on with the Teaching Council,

1793
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: and it's in so much trouble on so many fronts.

1794
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 3: But this particular report which came out last week must

1795
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 3: have been the final straw, and it showed the Teaching

1796
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: Council had spent more than one point seven million dollars

1797
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 3: on a firm that was run by her husband, and

1798
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 3: as a result she has now gone. It is twenty

1799
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 3: four away from seven now minooka honey company. Com Vita

1800
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: is back in profit. It's turned around a loss of

1801
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 3: six point four million dollars last year now into a

1802
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: net profit of four point six million and it's half

1803
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 3: year results. Carl Grayden is the chief executive.

1804
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 19: Hi, Karl, Hi, thanks you for having very much having me.

1805
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 3: You're more than welcome. Now do you reckon you're on

1806
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: the other side of the trouble yet or is this

1807
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 3: just the start of being on the other side.

1808
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 11: I've turn around continues.

1809
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 19: I'm really proud of the way that the team has

1810
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 19: responded to focusing on the basics, and as a result,

1811
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 19: I'm pretty confident that we've had the worst behind us.

1812
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: But you never know, so well, what does that mean come?

1813
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing that freaks people out. What

1814
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 3: don't we know?

1815
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 19: No, we're just focusing on execution into H two and

1816
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 19: the turnarounds ongoing. We've got some real momentum behind us,

1817
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 19: and the beautiful thing is that we've got got some

1818
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 19: wonderful distribution agreements against with a great brand. So once again,

1819
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 19: just really proud of the team.

1820
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: What is it that you're actually doing to turn it around?

1821
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 19: At the moment, we've been really disciplined against how we

1822
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 19: put that discretionary.

1823
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 5: Capital to use.

1824
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 19: So we've focused on the key markets and the key

1825
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 19: customers that we wanted to see improvements with, and we've delivered.

1826
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 19: So we've now got our control in China around the

1827
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 19: way that we go to market, and in North America

1828
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 19: we're focused heavily on the club channel of retail partnerships.

1829
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 19: So they've both performed very well for us.

1830
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 3: Now, I see that you've said that you are rebuilding

1831
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 3: your leadership capability. How are you doing that? Is that

1832
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 3: bringing new people in.

1833
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 19: It's a bit of both. We've promoted from within and

1834
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 19: we've also brought in others from outside. So we've got

1835
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 19: a couple of final sluts to announce with the likes

1836
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 19: of the chief marketing Officer still open and we're hoping

1837
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 19: to bring that one into the family over the course

1838
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 19: the next few weeks, which is great for us.

1839
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 3: Where do you reckon you are in terms of rebuilding

1840
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 3: trust out there in the world about what con Vita

1841
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 3: says is going on.

1842
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 19: My very first statement when I came into this role

1843
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 19: was that the only way to build trust is to

1844
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 19: do what you say you're going to do. And I'm

1845
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 19: really proud that we've delivered exactly what we said we

1846
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 19: were going to do, and I think that is the

1847
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 19: key for us going forward.

1848
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 5: So we're well through that process.

1849
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: Now I see that.

1850
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 3: You've got some offshore interest. How much is this particular

1851
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 3: party interested in buying of Convita.

1852
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,879
Speaker 19: It's still very early days to work through the details

1853
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 19: of this, and a lot really at a liberty to

1854
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 19: talk about it, but it's just great to see that

1855
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 19: these global organizations that have a commitment to health and

1856
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 19: wellness see the value of working together with conveter, and

1857
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 19: it's great that we continue to attract that strong interest

1858
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 19: as we turn this business around.

1859
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 3: I mean, is it a significant shareholding that they would

1860
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 3: end up taking it the value that they're prepared to

1861
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 3: put in, like are we talking five percent, fifteen percent,

1862
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 3: forty five?

1863
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 19: Ultimately would be up to our shareholders to vote on

1864
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 19: any proposal like this, So it's too early for me

1865
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 19: to speculate as to what it could look like.

1866
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 3: I see, happily for you guys that the share share

1867
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: price took a significant bump this afternoon once you reported.

1868
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 3: Do you and you're still sitting, I mean where you're

1869
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: sitting must be disappointing historically, do you reckon that you'll

1870
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 3: ever be able to get back up there into the

1871
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 3: three dollars full dollar mark?

1872
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 19: Look, we would hope that with continued discipline of our

1873
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 19: commercial imperatives, we would continue to return value to our shareholders,

1874
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 19: and that includes paying a dividend long term, and that

1875
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 19: includes building the brand into something that every shareholder is

1876
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,879
Speaker 19: proud of. So long term, we'd certainly like to expect

1877
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 19: that our share price continues to mature and improve. However,

1878
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 19: really it comes down to executing, and that's what the

1879
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 19: management is solely focused on delivering on good.

1880
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 3: Stuff and best of luck with it, Carl, Thank you,

1881
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 3: Carl Grayden comvisa chief executive twenty away from seven.

1882
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: Ever do for CLO.

1883
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 3: Oh, this is interesting out of Germany, they might be

1884
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 3: moving to ban workers from calling in sick quite as

1885
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 3: easily as they do at the moment. This is something

1886
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 3: that's a bit of a hangover from COVID. But at

1887
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 3: the moment they can just call that if they're feeling

1888
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 3: a bit worse for where they can call their GP,

1889
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 3: and GP can go, yeah, you sound terrible, Okay, here's

1890
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 3: a sick note, and then they can get five days

1891
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: off work full pay, just from the phone call. What

1892
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 3: the rule in Christian Democrat Party want to do is

1893
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 3: basically force the worker to go into the doctors at

1894
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 3: least make the effort to go in and be assessed

1895
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: by the doctor before they get five days off work.

1896
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 3: Voted unanimously at one of their party conferences to end

1897
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: the practice, and on average they take fifteen days actually,

1898
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 3: which is quite a lot you think about it. We'll

1899
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 3: see how that goes. Now, this story is almost certainly

1900
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 3: going to knock your confidence in the judges that sit

1901
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 3: on the lower courts, because unfortunately, when one judge does

1902
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 3: something stupid, we blame them all for it. So get

1903
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 3: a load of this, okay. A chap appeared in the

1904
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 3: Retua District Court last year accused of stealing a car.

1905
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,919
Speaker 3: What happened was that he had posed as a Jehovah's

1906
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 3: witness and he knocked on another man's door in the

1907
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: Rotrua and moments later he kicked open the door and

1908
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 3: he pointed a gun at the man who lived there.

1909
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 3: He took a bag containing the man's medication for his

1910
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 3: terminal heart disease, and he took two hundred dollars, And

1911
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 3: then he demanded the man's car keys. And he told

1912
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 3: the man that he was going to receive a few

1913
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 3: punches from someone, and that when that was done, the

1914
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 3: man would get his car back. And so he told

1915
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 3: the man, come with me, get your punches and you

1916
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 3: can get your car. So as they're walking down towards

1917
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 3: the car, the man quite rightly sees the opportunity to

1918
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 3: escape and escapes, But old Baddie over here just carries

1919
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 3: on with his plant. He takes the car, steals the

1920
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 3: car and then abandons it. A short distance away. He

1921
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 3: pleads not guilty and he goes to a judge alone trial.

1922
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 3: The judge says, and at this stage, by the way,

1923
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 3: old mate with the terminal heart disease, the victim has

1924
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: now died, right But based on his account of what

1925
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 3: the guy looked like. The judge looked at the sky

1926
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: and goes, I'm pretty satisfied you're the guy. Like you're

1927
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 3: the one who's done this stuff. You're the one that's accused.

1928
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 3: But then the judge decides that he didn't mean to

1929
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 3: take the car permanently, He just means to take it

1930
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 3: for a little bit. So as a result, the charge

1931
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 3: was not proven, so he gets away with it. The

1932
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: Crown Prosecutor quite rightly looks at the situation and goes,

1933
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 3: this is meantal. I'm appealing it to a higher court

1934
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 3: and does. The High Court then sends it back with

1935
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 3: some instructions, and as a result, Judge jo Anne Wickliffe

1936
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 3: has now found Peter George Junior Lopalmer guilty of aggravated

1937
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 3: robbery and reminded him in custody for sentencing on June nine.

1938
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,799
Speaker 3: Now you explained to me how that happened?

1939
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 18: Eh?

1940
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 5: How was she like?

1941
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're definitely the guy. I did it, but

1942
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 3: you didn't mean to take it for eva sos what

1943
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,839
Speaker 3: and then just goes to the other comes back anyway.

1944
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 3: Like I said, it is one hundred percent going to

1945
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 3: knock your confidence in the Lower Court judges. Am I right?

1946
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,879
Speaker 3: Seventeen away from seven Ever, it's.

1947
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Speaker 2: To do with money. It matters to you. The Business

1948
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Speaker 2: Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance and investments.

1949
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Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands, used talks'd be.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some retail numbers. Actually, this

1951
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Speaker 3: will cheer you up there looking good. This is the

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Speaker 3: retail spending numbers for the end of last year, up

1953
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Speaker 3: zero point nine percent, which are stronger than what was

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Speaker 3: expected by mark a consensus at zero point six So

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Speaker 3: we'll take that, thanks very much. Fourteen away from seven

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray Are UK correspondence with US High Gavin, Hi,

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Speaker 3: there have okay, explain to me what happened to this

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Speaker 3: heart that they put into the toddler in Italy.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, this has made national news in Italy, causing absolute

1960
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Speaker 15: condemnation by most of the nations. So there's a little

1961
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Speaker 15: year old boy who needed a heart transplant, he was

1962
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Speaker 15: in hospital when they found a heart donor and they

1963
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Speaker 15: brought the heart to the little boy and put it

1964
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Speaker 15: into him. Now, the problem was that the heart, the

1965
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Speaker 15: transplant herd had been stored directly onto dry ice, and

1966
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Speaker 15: of course dry ice is extremely cold, so had it

1967
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Speaker 15: appears completely damaged the heart and made it something that

1968
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Speaker 15: should not have been transplanted into somebody, causing that severe

1969
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Speaker 15: tissue damage. Anyway, that two year old boy, having fought

1970
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Speaker 15: now for a couple of weeks in hospital, has died.

1971
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Speaker 15: Prosecutors have now opened an investigation into five doctors and

1972
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Speaker 15: medics in total, and they've been placed under formal investigation.

1973
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Speaker 15: The organ apparently arrived, according to some burnt by frostbite,

1974
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Speaker 15: after being transported eight hundred kilometers from Bolsana to Naples

1975
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Speaker 15: in an unsuitable alongside the house, without a thermometer to

1976
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Speaker 15: alert the medical team of the low temperature. So a

1977
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Speaker 15: very sad story. The little boy had been on life

1978
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Speaker 15: support in Naples for quite some time and his mother

1979
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Speaker 15: had appealed to the Pope to help her son, and

1980
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Speaker 15: she says she'll the Starter foundation and his name. But

1981
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 15: why this heart was transported in a manner that was

1982
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Speaker 15: clearly unsuited is subject to that investigation.

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Speaker 11: Terrible.

1984
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Speaker 3: So what's Greenland? What's Greenland fighting Trump on?

1985
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Speaker 15: Well, Donald Trump said on the social media We're going

1986
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Speaker 15: to send a boat filled with medical supplies and doctors,

1987
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Speaker 15: saying that people on the island of Greenland are not

1988
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Speaker 15: being taken care of. So we're going to send this

1989
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Speaker 15: boat and help the world, as it were. Of course,

1990
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Speaker 15: behind all of this, he's made it clear that America

1991
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Speaker 15: wants Greenland and at one point didn't rule out force

1992
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Speaker 15: wanting to take it. Greenland, partly in the Arctic, is

1993
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Speaker 15: part of the Kingdom of Denmark, and therefore, although it

1994
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 15: makes its own rule on legislation, it does come under

1995
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Speaker 15: Denmark for all its foreign policy and defense deels. So

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Speaker 15: this idea that Donald Trump was going to, out of

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Speaker 15: his generosity, sent a large vessel to Denmark for health

1998
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Speaker 15: reasons was pretty much left everyone stunned. But it was

1999
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Speaker 15: a part I think of this soft diplomacy which America

2000
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Speaker 15: will now employ in the hope that the citizens of

2001
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Speaker 15: Greenland will say, yeah, we want to be American. However,

2002
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Speaker 15: the leader of prior the Prime Minister of Greenland, Jens

2003
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Speaker 15: Frederick Nils had responded with it's going to be a

2004
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 15: no thanks from us, pointing out that Greenland provides free

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Speaker 15: healthcare to all its citizens, unlike America. So I think

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Speaker 15: we're going to see a little bit backwards and forwards

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Speaker 15: down between America and Greenland.

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Speaker 3: Good from them. Now, what's this? They reckon that the

2009
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 3: cats might provide some clues to human cancer.

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Speaker 15: Yes, a fascinating study out of Cambridge in England where

2011
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 15: scientists has been analyzing the DNA from cancers or tumors.

2012
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Speaker 15: They've looked at almost five hundred domestic cats and they've

2013
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Speaker 15: uncovered key genetic mutations linked with cancer, and they've looked

2014
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Speaker 15: at thirteen different types of feline cancer, using one thousand

2015
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Speaker 15: genes in their analysis, and they found that many of

2016
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,879
Speaker 15: the genes that are driving cat cancers are actually mirrored

2017
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Speaker 15: in humans, suggesting that the two species share key biological

2018
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Speaker 15: processes that allow tumors to grow and spread. So what

2019
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Speaker 15: they're looking at now is basically, if that's what the

2020
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Speaker 15: cats get as well as the humans, what ways can

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Speaker 15: we treat cats and that might be suitable to treat

2022
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Speaker 15: humans as well. So it's basically not a cure, but

2023
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 15: it is a particular route that might be used in

2024
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 15: order to try and find a cure. And they do

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Speaker 15: say this is really significant importance because of course you

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Speaker 15: can't start doing studies on humans who are sick with

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Speaker 15: cancers in the way in which pertend you might be

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Speaker 15: able to do with cats. So that's what they're looking

2029
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Speaker 15: at and this could be the saying bit of a

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Speaker 15: game change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, well, Gavin, thank you, has always appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray, UK Correspondent. Now I think the best I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: you know I we have to probably consider our news

2034
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Speaker 3: judgment on the show because we have left the best

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01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 3: news completely off the show, best news of the day,

2036
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Speaker 3: which is that Bunnings is going to be coming at

2037
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Speaker 3: you on the U beats. That has got to be

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01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 3: some like you know that this is good news because

2039
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 3: how many times have you've been halfway through doing something

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01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 3: and you just like, bug it, I haven't got the

2041
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 3: right to I haven't got the right screw And then

2042
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 3: you've got to pack it all up. You've got to

2043
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 3: slip on over to Bunnings just for like, and how

2044
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 3: many times have you done that? How many times? For

2045
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 3: like a five dollars packet of screws? You have to

2046
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 3: stop everything waste half an hour, and time is of

2047
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 3: the essence because you've got to get this work done

2048
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 3: before the end. Now you don't have to do that.

2049
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 3: You can just carry on and you can uber eat it.

2050
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 3: You can say this is the kind of screw I want.

2051
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you're gonna have to know your screws

2052
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 3: backwards because that's the thing. Well getting there, and then

2053
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 3: you've got to ser lord which one m eight what

2054
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 3: am I doing? You know what I mean? Like that's

2055
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 3: a thing. So as long as you know what you're doing,

2056
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 3: it should be. But also the other thing, so temper

2057
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 3: your excitement with the fact that you've got to know

2058
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 3: your products. But also the other thing is there's only

2059
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 3: going to be some products will be able to be

2060
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 3: delivered to you. If you've forgot to order a piece

2061
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 3: of three but two they're not bringing that in the preus.

2062
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: So I mean apparently they'll deliver a lawn mower to

2063
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 3: you that. Frankly, I think you can make your own

2064
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 3: way to Bunny.

2065
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 24: Well, they do the sausages from the sausage Sizzle, Heather.

2066
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 24: That's the important thing they need to address that is

2067
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 24: that can I uber each the sausages from the sausage sizzle.

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01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 3: Now, I think we can tell who doesn't do the

2069
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 3: home handy work around here. Eight away from seven Heather,

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01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 3: It's the.

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Speaker 1: Heather two for Celan Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 1: powered by Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Heather, when are you going to stop supporting an Australian

2074
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: DIY store from Angus? Heather, Bunnings are Australian might attends

2075
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 3: New Zealand get your lawn mower from a service at Blubber.

2076
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 3: I don't worry about it. I'm not picking favorites. I

2077
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 3: support both of them I've got. I don't really know

2078
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 3: where I think I go. For my screws, I go

2079
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 3: to Bunning's, and for big things like the umbrellas, I

2080
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 3: go to my ten. Actually Mighty ten doesn't fantastic outdoor umbrella.

2081
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 3: Can I tell you that?

2082
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 22: Now?

2083
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 3: I have railed about this a thousand times, and that

2084
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I can't rail over this again. I'm gonna

2085
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 3: do it. Auckland Transport has ticketed somebody again for parking

2086
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 3: in their driveway. Mount Albert guy came home to have

2087
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 3: a bit of a lunch. He'd been there for The

2088
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: breach was four minutes. He might have been there a

2089
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 3: bit longer. He reckons maybe ten minutes or so, but

2090
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 3: breach was four minutes. Parking on a footpath or a

2091
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 3: cycle path got pinned seventy dollars. Auckland Transport is prepared

2092
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 3: for this because they know that we get absolutely furious

2093
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 3: at them because it's ridiculous. So they've drawn, They've made

2094
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 3: a little diagram that they sent to the Herald and

2095
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 3: they were like, that's but on the proper day that's

2096
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 3: the driveway. But how when it's going to the road

2097
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 3: and it crosses the berm, that's the vehicle craft thing.

2098
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,839
Speaker 3: So they think that that's okay now because that's technically

2099
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 3: the vehicle crossing. Do you know what I call that?

2100
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 3: BS one hundreds to that because I think, do you

2101
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 3: not think you should get ticketed for where you are

2102
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 3: using public space or where you're blocking somebody else? So

2103
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,560
Speaker 3: by all means, if it's a car park, charge me

2104
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 3: for it. It's a council car park, I'm I'm using

2105
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 3: something that belongs to you, Auckland Council. But if it's

2106
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 3: a vehicle crossing that goes to my house and nobody

2107
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 3: else is impacted by that, there should be Okay, shouldn't it.

2108
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 3: That's where it just looks like revenue gathering and we

2109
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 3: just get cross about it, don't we. I'm cross about

2110
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 3: it on account of the Mount Albert Man.

2111
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Speaker 24: And so we heard earlier that those Irish people were

2112
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 24: a bit disappointed that they didn't get to see the

2113
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 24: K Pop Demon Hunters when they thought they were going to. Well,

2114
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 24: it turns out it's because they were at the Bathters.

2115
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 24: The three voice actresses who play Hunters in K Pop

2116
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 24: Demon Hunters performed for the first time outside of America,

2117
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Speaker 24: Golden live at the show and this is the.

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Speaker 3: Only this is not Golden, is it?

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01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 22: Yes?

2120
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 18: It is?

2121
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 3: Why are you doing that?

2122
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 8: Yeah? Okay, fair enough, here's common people. How was Pulp? Heather?

2123
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 3: Did you? Thank you? That's so much about it? I

2124
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 3: hate Golden. Pulp was awesome. But you know what I did.

2125
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 3: I I complained mightily that they didn't play Disco two thousand.

2126
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 3: I was like, how do you go to a pop

2127
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 3: concert and they don't play disco two thousand? That would

2128
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 3: be because I was late and it was the second

2129
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 3: song on the setlist, and I'm oh.

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01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, concert club was late. That's terrible.

2131
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 3: We're often late because We really enjoy our dinner catchups. Beforehand,

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01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 3: we turned up.

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01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 8: Late to the concert all hard at Preezer Classic.

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01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 3: Learned our lesson Also by the way, malapropers am I

2135
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 3: said on account I mean on behalf and it's gonna

2136
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 3: bug me if I don't correct it right now. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow.

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