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Speaker 1: All right, just gone nine minutes after five Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 1: Trump says the US will take over Gaza, move Palestinians out,

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Speaker 1: and develop the land. He spoke after meeting with Benjamin

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Speaker 1: nittin Yahu at the White House a few hours ago.

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Speaker 2: The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we

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Speaker 2: will do a job with it too. We'll own it,

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Speaker 2: get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create

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Speaker 2: an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs

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Speaker 2: and housing for the people of the area.

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Speaker 1: Robert Patman's with me this evening. I tag a UNI

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Speaker 1: International Relations Robert.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Oh, good evening. Right.

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Speaker 1: You taking this seriously, Well, you have to.

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Speaker 3: Take it seriously in the sense that mister Trump represents

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Speaker 3: the most powerful office in the world and the most

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Speaker 3: powerful country, and even by his eye opening steps, it's

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Speaker 3: a very shocking statement and a clean break with previous

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Speaker 3: American policy towards the Middle East region and particular towards

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Speaker 3: the Israeli Palestinian conflicts since the Oslo Cords of the

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Speaker 3: early nineties. So you know, it's difficult at the moment

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Speaker 3: to be optimistic about the impact of such a statement.

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Speaker 1: He's saying that they because it's about at one point

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Speaker 1: eight million Palestinians currently in Gaza. He's saying, Oh, we

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Speaker 1: could just move them to neighboring countries, but the neighboring

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Speaker 1: countries don't want.

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Speaker 3: Them, and then he says, oh, but they will after

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Speaker 3: I've spoken to them. But that's not the point. The

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Speaker 3: point is what gives America the authority to forcibly displace

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Speaker 3: people living in a territory when they've lived there for

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Speaker 3: some time. And it's an arbitrary act in many respects,

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Speaker 3: and it seems to be a further step away from

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Speaker 3: achieving a solution which America and New Zealand have both

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Speaker 3: stood for, which is a two state solution. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a worrying development and it's going to do nothing

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Speaker 3: to ease the negotiations the second phase of the agreed

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Speaker 3: cease fire, which is just coming up for discussion between

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Speaker 3: Israel and Hamas. So it's it's likely to escalate rather

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Speaker 3: than diminished tension.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wonder, yeah, because that second phase that you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, and you've got Israel saying we're not going

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Speaker 1: to agree to the second phase unless the leaders of

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Speaker 1: Hamas agree to leave Gaza. They're not going to do that,

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Speaker 1: are they So we're basically going back to war.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean they're not going to do that. And

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Speaker 3: mister Nisa who please notice what is missing from mister

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Speaker 3: Netanya Who's narrative and that is any desire to address

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Speaker 3: the issue of the Palestinian desire for self determination for

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Speaker 3: twenty five years, Mister Nathana who has adopted a position

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Speaker 3: which is directly odds with the position of his major backer,

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Speaker 3: the United States, which does one of two states solutions.

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Speaker 3: Mister Nieh who you know, following that horrendous Amaso terrorist attack,

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Speaker 3: has never identified what he sees as the end goal

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Speaker 3: of the air and ground offensive that's occurred during the

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Speaker 3: last fifteen months. So you know that issue is at

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Speaker 3: the root of the problem. And it doesn't seem like

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Speaker 3: mister Trump is actually apploying too much thinking about how

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Speaker 3: can tensions in the region be resolved as opposed to

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Speaker 3: be transplanting them elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Robert Petman, thank you very much for your time. I'd

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