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Speaker 3: Care a good afternoon and welcome into the Sunday edition

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Speaker 3: of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. For March thirty

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Speaker 3: two giants of New Zealand sport. Born on this date,

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Speaker 3: one of our truly great fast bowlers, Jack Cowie, he

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Speaker 3: passed away in nineteen ninety four, and All Blacks and

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Speaker 3: New Zealand rugby icon Taney Norton, also born on March thirty.

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Speaker 3: He passed away in twenty twenty three. I'm Jason Pine

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Speaker 3: show producer is Andy McDonald. We're here to talk sport

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Speaker 3: with you until three this afternoon. The big news of

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Speaker 3: the week was Liam Lawson's demotion by Red B after

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Speaker 3: just two races in the full time seat. Huge story

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Speaker 3: going to chat shortly with Toyota Racing Series founder Barry Tomlinson.

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Speaker 3: Liam Lawson raced in that series as part of his

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Speaker 3: motorsport education. Want to take your calls as well. What

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Speaker 3: did you make of the treatment of Liam Lawson and

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Speaker 3: what do you predict for his future? After one o'clock

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Speaker 3: the issue of stadiums in our biggest city, Auckland Council

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Speaker 3: does this actually mean? They're not going to kick any

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Speaker 3: fan's point of view After one o'clock. Other matters around today.

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Speaker 3: Malwana pacifica magnificent achieving their most faith as Super Rugby

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Speaker 3: victory beating the Crusaders forty five twenty nine in christ

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Speaker 3: ch last night. Coach Tana Umanga with us after two.

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Speaker 3: The black Caps one till up in their three match

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Speaker 3: ODI series against Pakistan. Going to cover that off for

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Speaker 3: you and the Ocean Race, the world's toughest test of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven edition of the iconic Round the World

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Speaker 3: Offshore Race. Among those taking part of Kiwe Conrad Coleman.

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Speaker 3: He's going to join us in studio this afternoon too.

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Speaker 3: James mccony in his regular slot as well. Live Sport

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Speaker 3: today three final round Planket Shield matches into their second day.

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Speaker 3: It's raining in Dunedin though no play there, which has

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Speaker 3: And Dame lydia Coe nearing the end of her third

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Speaker 3: round at the LPGA Tour's Ford Championship in Arizona and

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Speaker 3: as we speak, lydia Co is three under for her

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Speaker 3: round through thirteen holes to day, twelve under for the tournament.

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Speaker 3: It's a tightly congested leaderboard. She's just three shots off

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Speaker 3: at fifteen under. Lydia Co is currently twelve under for

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Speaker 3: Nb SO News broke late on Thursday evening New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Time that Liam Lawson has been demoted from the Red

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Jason, Well, it's actually afternoon, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Two races though barrye was he given long enough?

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Speaker 4: No in terms of not long enough. But if we

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Speaker 4: Well obviously, you know, if we look at it, no,

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Speaker 4: Here, look it's a high performance sport, Jason. And in

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Speaker 3: Indeed, and many beyond his control. He hasn't even driven

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Speaker 3: the racing balls car. Why wouldn't they have given him

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Speaker 4: I think also importantly Jason, that you know, yes, the

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Speaker 4: So you know, I say, you know, yes, it's difficult, Yes,

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Speaker 4: So you know, in the end he's moved to a

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Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt. And you've led me into the next

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think, you know, it's well proven.

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Speaker 4: to show that he actually, you know, world class driver.

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Speaker 8: I'll be high afternoon, Jason, How are you very good?

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Speaker 3: LB, Very good? Thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, bad advertising is good advertising, and good advertising is

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Speaker 5: airs as read bull read ball, read ball. It's free

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you mean for the energy you mean for the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you just think of better and in the air

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, you're right. They probably couldn't buy that

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Speaker 3: of sword. Thanks for your call, mate, Hi, tim.

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Speaker 9: Of I think it was horrific how we've been treated

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Speaker 9: I think they've sort of I just don't think they're

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Speaker 6: Tom.

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Speaker 3: He's not out of Formula one. He's still got one

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Speaker 9: I think there'll be plenty of people watching him. He'll

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Speaker 10: And you've got.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's Pete good Man, Tim good Points well mate,

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Speaker 1: Crouch hold Ngage Weekend Sports with Jason him and Gee James,

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Speaker 3: Bang on twelve thirty talking Liam Lawson for boarder calls.

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Speaker 3: Can you get through as many as we possibly can?

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Speaker 3: So let's go, Hi, Jude.

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Speaker 11: Hello, we do I start.

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 11: I am Elie Liam Lawson fan. So I'll say that,

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Speaker 11: First stave him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's look, that sounds like that's what they're doing, Joe,

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Speaker 10: Hey Pine, Yeah, I can quick quick congratulations Tatana. Sometimes

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Speaker 10: I think being the Auckland Blues coach was a bit

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 10: I think what RedBull have done is a really sacrificed

432
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Speaker 10: winning the constructors championship, for winning the drivers championship and

433
00:23:43,987 --> 00:23:47,347
Speaker 10: engineering that car for Max for stuff, and that no

434
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Speaker 10: one else can seems to be able to drive. And

435
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Speaker 10: I'm just wondering the question I guess if maybe I

436
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Speaker 10: mean I'm on an expert or not, but like, why

437
00:23:56,907 --> 00:23:59,227
Speaker 10: is the car so set up for Max? Is that

438
00:23:59,387 --> 00:24:01,547
Speaker 10: because if he stacks it into the wall and the

439
00:24:01,627 --> 00:24:05,587
Speaker 10: last qualifying that he can just step into Liam's car?

440
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Speaker 6: Is why it works?

441
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Speaker 10: Or I mean that's what I can't work out. Why,

442
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Speaker 10: if you're trying to get your second driver to win points,

443
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Speaker 10: why you'd have a car that, you know, looking at

444
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Speaker 10: it on paper as four or five good drivers haven't

445
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Speaker 10: been able to driver.

446
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Speaker 3: And it's a great question. Mark, Yeah, it's good.

447
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Speaker 10: That's a cleanly loest.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, clearly they want to win. They want

449
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Speaker 3: him in the driver's championship and he's been very successfully

450
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Speaker 3: doing that for the last four years. But they've specifically said,

451
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Speaker 3: haven't they, and you've picked up on this, that the Constructors'

452
00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:39,707
Speaker 3: Championship is just as important to them, So you're right,

453
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Speaker 3: why why wouldn't they give the second driver, you know,

454
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Speaker 3: as good an opportunity as possible to get points. I

455
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Speaker 3: guess what they hope is that they'll find I mean,

456
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Speaker 3: Maxwastappens a genius, absolute genius of a driver, and what

457
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Speaker 3: they're hoping, I guess, is to find somebody who is

458
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Speaker 3: at least eighty percent of the genius that he is

459
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Speaker 3: and can turn that car into one that'll finish in

460
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Speaker 3: the top ten and pick up consistent points.

461
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd just like to say I think one last

462
00:25:06,827 --> 00:25:09,667
Speaker 10: point is I think that they're running scared that makes

463
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Speaker 10: the stuff and is going to leave because without him,

464
00:25:12,467 --> 00:25:14,507
Speaker 10: they haven't got a team because no one else can

465
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Speaker 10: drive their car. So I think that they just almost

466
00:25:18,627 --> 00:25:21,267
Speaker 10: like afraid that he's going to go somewhere else. And

467
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Speaker 10: I mean, you can you see drivers switching around all

468
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Speaker 10: the time at the moment, like contracts go what do

469
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Speaker 10: you mean anything they can just sort of be torn

470
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Speaker 10: up and were my yives and seed leaves. They're just

471
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Speaker 10: going to be stuck with probably two drivers who can't

472
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Speaker 10: drive their car they developed over the years for extra stuff.

473
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Speaker 3: And thanks Mark, good thoughts from you as always on

474
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Speaker 3: text here from Ben. I think Red Bull needs to

475
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Speaker 3: take a look at themselves and their ability to destroy

476
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Speaker 3: drivers careers. Clearly they've bought the car that's very difficult

477
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Speaker 3: to drive, but Max can get it to the front

478
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Speaker 3: of the grid. Imagine what Mexican doing to McLaren hit

479
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Speaker 3: smoke everyone. It's the car more than the driver in

480
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Speaker 3: this case. Come on, red Bull, pull your socks up,

481
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Speaker 3: see has Ben hi? Roger? Hey here we do good Roger?

482
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Speaker 5: Great?

483
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Speaker 14: Great?

484
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Speaker 15: Great up Yet yeah, I've done a few a few

485
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Speaker 15: things to say if I may. I watched Lim's testing

486
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Speaker 15: for Red Bull. They had Max come out on a

487
00:26:16,667 --> 00:26:20,427
Speaker 15: Saturday morning and did a few laps, and then they

488
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Speaker 15: put Limb in the car and he did a few

489
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Speaker 15: laps and then they analyzed that he was one or

490
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Speaker 15: two tense behind him. But they also said the information

491
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Speaker 15: that he sent back to them was top class. Now,

492
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Speaker 15: Max the set of himself has said that he's been

493
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Speaker 15: disappointed about what they've done to them. Liam's also said

494
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Speaker 15: that as far as he's concerned, he's still in Formula one,

495
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Speaker 15: so he's happy. And the other thing about the car,

496
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Speaker 15: what people haven't thought about is that you don't have

497
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Speaker 15: the wonderful Adrian Ubie around anymore because he's gone to

498
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Speaker 15: Aston Martin, So they haven't got anyone that can really

499
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Speaker 15: develop that car. And you're right about Max because if

500
00:27:01,187 --> 00:27:03,427
Speaker 15: you put him in a goat he'd probably beat them too.

501
00:27:04,467 --> 00:27:07,067
Speaker 3: Yeah, terrific driver, and that's he's one of a kind,

502
00:27:07,107 --> 00:27:10,187
Speaker 3: isn't it. You can't recreate another driver. But I get,

503
00:27:10,347 --> 00:27:12,347
Speaker 3: like I said, does that sound accurate to you that

504
00:27:12,907 --> 00:27:14,787
Speaker 3: Red Ball are just trying to find someone who is

505
00:27:14,827 --> 00:27:17,747
Speaker 3: as close to the stepping is as humanly possible to

506
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Speaker 3: try and pick up points in a car that's pretty

507
00:27:19,867 --> 00:27:20,627
Speaker 3: difficult to drive.

508
00:27:22,067 --> 00:27:23,987
Speaker 15: Well, I think they won a number two, but I

509
00:27:24,027 --> 00:27:27,347
Speaker 15: think now, of course it's awfully embarrassing for them. So

510
00:27:29,067 --> 00:27:35,467
Speaker 15: Yoki Sonoda goes and doesn't perform at the Japanese Grand Prix,

511
00:27:36,067 --> 00:27:38,507
Speaker 15: that's going to look terrible for them. So they are

512
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Speaker 15: going to set that carra Now. The other thing, when

513
00:27:42,027 --> 00:27:45,107
Speaker 15: Liam was doing testing off season with the old car,

514
00:27:45,627 --> 00:27:48,107
Speaker 15: it wrote down all the time, so he never got

515
00:27:48,147 --> 00:27:52,147
Speaker 15: a good deal. That guy Kimmy Antonelli who's driving for Mercedes,

516
00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:55,467
Speaker 15: he got sixty hours in the driver's seat of the

517
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Speaker 15: two year old car last year before he really started

518
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Speaker 15: in a Formula One car. And Liam Okay did a

519
00:28:02,867 --> 00:28:06,347
Speaker 15: few races which I thought he did well, And you're right,

520
00:28:06,347 --> 00:28:09,547
Speaker 15: and his attitude is strong as and he has that

521
00:28:09,667 --> 00:28:12,027
Speaker 15: been a harrig considered. I think you need too, you know,

522
00:28:12,187 --> 00:28:14,627
Speaker 15: And he would have been a good partner for Max

523
00:28:14,667 --> 00:28:16,947
Speaker 15: because I don't think he would have taken these craps,

524
00:28:16,947 --> 00:28:17,627
Speaker 15: so to speak.

525
00:28:17,707 --> 00:28:21,427
Speaker 3: So indeed, Roger, thanks mart I appreciate your call and

526
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:22,947
Speaker 3: your thoughts. Just on the Honda thing. A lot of

527
00:28:22,947 --> 00:28:24,987
Speaker 3: people have made the point about of that Honda. So

528
00:28:25,027 --> 00:28:27,547
Speaker 3: what the situation is is Honda supply read Ball their

529
00:28:27,587 --> 00:28:31,467
Speaker 3: engines and they've been a major supporter of Yuki Sonoda

530
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Speaker 3: and apparently now they have contributed an additional undisclosed amount

531
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Speaker 3: of money in the millions now that Sonoda has been

532
00:28:40,067 --> 00:28:45,107
Speaker 3: promoted to the main team. Now that's part of this obviously,

533
00:28:45,187 --> 00:28:48,147
Speaker 3: But if that was such a consideration, then why didn't

534
00:28:48,187 --> 00:28:53,467
Speaker 3: they give Sinoda the seat in the first place. Doesn't

535
00:28:53,467 --> 00:28:56,427
Speaker 3: make sense, right, If the money was the driving factor

536
00:28:56,907 --> 00:28:59,747
Speaker 3: and they knew, and I'm sure they would have, that

537
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Speaker 3: Honda would give them more money if Sonoda was in

538
00:29:03,027 --> 00:29:05,227
Speaker 3: the seat, then they would have given Sonda the seat.

539
00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:09,507
Speaker 3: It can't have been the only factor. They must have

540
00:29:09,587 --> 00:29:12,347
Speaker 3: had doubt about Sonoda as much as they had confidence

541
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Speaker 3: in Liam. So interested to see how Snoda drives this car.

542
00:29:16,867 --> 00:29:22,867
Speaker 16: Bruce, Hi, Yeah, Hi, Piny. Just a couple of quick points. Firstly,

543
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Speaker 16: so far as the Honda thing, I read somewhere about

544
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Speaker 16: a week ago that pressure had been coming on by

545
00:29:31,707 --> 00:29:37,707
Speaker 16: Honda with Red Bull to put Snoda into the car

546
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Speaker 16: for the Japanese Grand Prix, and I wish I could

547
00:29:41,387 --> 00:29:45,107
Speaker 16: remember what it was in and I thought, Oho, something's

548
00:29:45,147 --> 00:29:48,107
Speaker 16: happened here. And then I've since read another couple of

549
00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:51,147
Speaker 16: articts where they've said, not only this Honda put a

550
00:29:51,227 --> 00:29:54,747
Speaker 16: huge amount of money in each year, but the fact

551
00:29:54,827 --> 00:29:57,747
Speaker 16: being is that there has been a substantial amount of

552
00:29:57,747 --> 00:30:03,147
Speaker 16: money was offered to put Snoda into the seat. So

553
00:30:03,587 --> 00:30:06,147
Speaker 16: that's probably some point yeah.

554
00:30:06,347 --> 00:30:11,027
Speaker 3: Million, Bruce, sorry, Bruce, twenty million New Zealand, so temillion

555
00:30:11,067 --> 00:30:14,747
Speaker 3: euro is what's being reported. So and apparently that money

556
00:30:14,827 --> 00:30:17,387
Speaker 3: was offered that money was offered before they made the

557
00:30:17,427 --> 00:30:20,147
Speaker 3: decision to put Liam in there, so clearly at that

558
00:30:20,307 --> 00:30:23,387
Speaker 3: time it wasn't enough to turn their head and ye,

559
00:30:23,667 --> 00:30:26,587
Speaker 3: well now maybe it's just maybe they look they're quite

560
00:30:26,627 --> 00:30:28,427
Speaker 3: within their rights to say we made a mistake in

561
00:30:28,467 --> 00:30:31,547
Speaker 3: giving Liam the seat. They've done it terribly, they've handled

562
00:30:31,587 --> 00:30:35,347
Speaker 3: it terribly, but everybody makes mistakes, so they're quite within

563
00:30:35,387 --> 00:30:37,507
Speaker 3: their rights to say, hey, we made a mistake. But

564
00:30:38,947 --> 00:30:41,027
Speaker 3: the twenty million is for me a bit of a

565
00:30:41,067 --> 00:30:43,627
Speaker 3: red herring because they could have taken it when they

566
00:30:43,667 --> 00:30:47,747
Speaker 3: made the decision originally and didn't. Christian Horner rejected the

567
00:30:47,787 --> 00:30:51,547
Speaker 3: offer and promoted laws in ahead of Sonoda. So I

568
00:30:51,547 --> 00:30:53,707
Speaker 3: don't think it's the reason, but I think it's a

569
00:30:53,907 --> 00:30:56,427
Speaker 3: well it's a happy byproduct for red Bull for starters.

570
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Speaker 16: Yeah.

571
00:30:57,827 --> 00:30:58,027
Speaker 10: Yeah.

572
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Speaker 16: The only other quick point I'd like to make was,

573
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Speaker 16: and it's a very important one, is that the total

574
00:31:05,427 --> 00:31:08,907
Speaker 16: lack of practice switch Liam was lad to have. I

575
00:31:08,947 --> 00:31:11,907
Speaker 16: mean in Australia, his car was out from one complete

576
00:31:11,987 --> 00:31:16,387
Speaker 16: season session. Sorry, he just hasn't had a chance in

577
00:31:16,427 --> 00:31:20,507
Speaker 16: that car to really get a pre season He didn't

578
00:31:20,547 --> 00:31:24,907
Speaker 16: get it, And I mean with racing, you know you can't.

579
00:31:25,987 --> 00:31:27,267
Speaker 16: You've got to practice in them.

580
00:31:28,787 --> 00:31:31,907
Speaker 3: Indeed, Bruce, Yeah, practice makes perfect, as they say, and

581
00:31:31,947 --> 00:31:34,347
Speaker 3: you're right. I mean, the less time he hasn't it,

582
00:31:34,587 --> 00:31:36,987
Speaker 3: the worse it was going to be for Liam. Just

583
00:31:37,307 --> 00:31:39,747
Speaker 3: from Simon, the second car has to be one that

584
00:31:39,787 --> 00:31:42,067
Speaker 3: Max can jump into if he wrecks his own one

585
00:31:42,227 --> 00:31:45,667
Speaker 3: in practice or in qualifying, or if it has major problems.

586
00:31:45,707 --> 00:31:48,147
Speaker 3: All teams operate that way when they're in a title fight.

587
00:31:48,187 --> 00:31:51,627
Speaker 3: Thanks Simon. Yes, that's kind of what I suspected, and

588
00:31:51,627 --> 00:31:55,027
Speaker 3: I think what Mark suspected as well, that you know,

589
00:31:55,267 --> 00:31:56,667
Speaker 3: you have to be able to lock and load MAXI

590
00:31:56,707 --> 00:31:59,267
Speaker 3: stepping into a second car if he writes his first

591
00:31:59,267 --> 00:32:01,747
Speaker 3: one off because he's clearly the most important person here.

592
00:32:01,947 --> 00:32:06,027
Speaker 3: Nineteen to one, Hello Debrah.

593
00:32:04,547 --> 00:32:08,507
Speaker 17: Hello Piney there in Melbourne?

594
00:32:09,547 --> 00:32:10,067
Speaker 3: Where was it?

595
00:32:10,227 --> 00:32:10,427
Speaker 18: Now?

596
00:32:10,627 --> 00:32:10,907
Speaker 1: Was it?

597
00:32:12,467 --> 00:32:12,667
Speaker 7: Well?

598
00:32:12,667 --> 00:32:14,787
Speaker 17: Liam did a three sixty in front of us at

599
00:32:14,787 --> 00:32:21,587
Speaker 17: one stage, but that day the Sunday so cold, so wet,

600
00:32:22,347 --> 00:32:25,027
Speaker 17: and poor Liam he didn't really have a chance because

601
00:32:25,027 --> 00:32:30,307
Speaker 17: they kept tweaking his car and when he we were

602
00:32:30,307 --> 00:32:33,027
Speaker 17: on the stand right on the hip and then where

603
00:32:33,027 --> 00:32:35,707
Speaker 17: they have to slow down so that then they can

604
00:32:35,747 --> 00:32:39,107
Speaker 17: speed up for the strait, so we could you know,

605
00:32:39,147 --> 00:32:40,787
Speaker 17: we got to have a good look at each one,

606
00:32:41,387 --> 00:32:44,707
Speaker 17: and then we saw Oscar. Do you know when he

607
00:32:44,747 --> 00:32:47,867
Speaker 17: went over into the grass and try and get out.

608
00:32:47,867 --> 00:32:50,267
Speaker 17: So we're all standing there, Come on, Oscar, Come on, Oscar,

609
00:32:50,307 --> 00:32:52,587
Speaker 17: Because even though we're Keywi, we sort of had to

610
00:32:52,667 --> 00:32:56,027
Speaker 17: cheer them on. And it was great to know that

611
00:32:56,067 --> 00:32:59,827
Speaker 17: he learned from Jeremy Clarkson how to back a tractor

612
00:33:00,707 --> 00:33:04,107
Speaker 17: because he used those skills to get out of the

613
00:33:04,187 --> 00:33:05,427
Speaker 17: grass it was so wet.

614
00:33:07,547 --> 00:33:09,627
Speaker 3: What do you predict for Liam now that he's in

615
00:33:09,667 --> 00:33:11,947
Speaker 3: the Racing Balls team, Deborah? Do you think it might

616
00:33:11,987 --> 00:33:15,227
Speaker 3: actually be in some ways a good thing for him.

617
00:33:16,347 --> 00:33:19,147
Speaker 17: Oh, he'll make the most of it because he's Liam.

618
00:33:19,667 --> 00:33:22,987
Speaker 17: And somebody said on your show yesterday what I had

619
00:33:23,027 --> 00:33:25,987
Speaker 17: thought in the morning. Wouldn't it be really funny if

620
00:33:26,067 --> 00:33:29,747
Speaker 17: in that car he is right up Max's and Max

621
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Speaker 17: let him get passed. It's not likely to happen, but

622
00:33:32,747 --> 00:33:34,947
Speaker 17: he would be funny, Debra.

623
00:33:34,827 --> 00:33:36,707
Speaker 3: It would be it would be. I hope you can

624
00:33:36,707 --> 00:33:38,307
Speaker 3: get back to Melbourne at some stage and we can

625
00:33:38,347 --> 00:33:42,787
Speaker 3: watch Liam. Look, Liam's future is so interesting now. You

626
00:33:42,827 --> 00:33:45,427
Speaker 3: know he has the opportunity over the rest of this

627
00:33:45,467 --> 00:33:48,147
Speaker 3: season in that Racing Balls car, to prove what a

628
00:33:48,187 --> 00:33:51,147
Speaker 3: good driver he is, to show us all what we

629
00:33:51,187 --> 00:33:55,147
Speaker 3: all knew, what Christian Horner knew and all of those

630
00:33:55,187 --> 00:33:57,587
Speaker 3: in power at Red Ball when they gave him the

631
00:33:57,587 --> 00:34:01,787
Speaker 3: full time seat. He hasn't become a bad driver overnight.

632
00:34:02,387 --> 00:34:04,507
Speaker 3: Things haven't gone his way in the first two races.

633
00:34:04,627 --> 00:34:08,147
Speaker 3: He will probably freely admit as well that he hasn't

634
00:34:08,187 --> 00:34:10,427
Speaker 3: been at the top of his game either, but there

635
00:34:10,467 --> 00:34:14,427
Speaker 3: are many contributing factors here. He's got the rest of

636
00:34:14,467 --> 00:34:16,387
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five to prove what he can do to

637
00:34:16,427 --> 00:34:19,787
Speaker 3: make himself a tractive not only the Red Bull but

638
00:34:19,867 --> 00:34:23,427
Speaker 3: to other manufacturers as well. And you know what, having

639
00:34:23,507 --> 00:34:29,907
Speaker 3: been treated this way, why wouldn't Nev's head turned. Red

640
00:34:29,947 --> 00:34:33,747
Speaker 3: Bull have never promoted a driver they have previously demoted.

641
00:34:33,907 --> 00:34:35,707
Speaker 3: That's not to say they wouldn't with Liam if he

642
00:34:35,747 --> 00:34:39,347
Speaker 3: performs well for Racing Bulls. As Barry Tomlinson said, Max

643
00:34:39,387 --> 00:34:41,107
Speaker 3: fist happens off at some stage. Could even be at

644
00:34:41,147 --> 00:34:44,507
Speaker 3: the end of this year. It could well be that

645
00:34:44,947 --> 00:34:47,827
Speaker 3: in the future Liam drives in the Red Bull seat again.

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Speaker 3: We have to wait and see what he can do

647
00:34:49,547 --> 00:34:52,507
Speaker 3: now is drive well for Racing Balls and turn a

648
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Speaker 3: few heads sixteen to one back with more of your

649
00:34:54,867 --> 00:34:55,587
Speaker 3: calls right after this.

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Speaker 2: You be the TMO.

651
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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

652
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Speaker 1: weekends for It with Jason Pyne and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New

653
00:35:05,107 --> 00:35:07,307
Speaker 1: Zealand's most Trusted home build a News.

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Speaker 3: Dog thirteen to one, Allen says on text. Remember Liam

655
00:35:10,467 --> 00:35:12,947
Speaker 3: put in the second fastest lap in China, second only

656
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Speaker 3: to the winner. So he is fast, but he's unfortunately

657
00:35:15,747 --> 00:35:22,747
Speaker 3: driving a bit of a peg, says Allen. Thanks Ellen Murray, helloh.

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Speaker 19: Okay, cool piney. I was actually I made similar point

659
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Speaker 19: to that that if you look at I went through

660
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Speaker 19: and looked at all the sector times and what have

661
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Speaker 19: you during the race in China, and Liam Lawson was

662
00:35:32,307 --> 00:35:34,627
Speaker 19: about one to two tenths slower than Max in the

663
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Speaker 19: first sector and as fast or slightly faster than Max

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Speaker 19: in the second sector of the as you go around

665
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Speaker 19: the last, but he lost most of his time in

666
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Speaker 19: the last sector, which is onto the back straight and

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Speaker 19: then the hip and then the turn back onto the

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Speaker 19: front straight. So he was losing about half a second

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Speaker 19: in that sector there, and that was because he couldn't

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Speaker 19: get it onto the back straight well enough to get

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Speaker 19: the terminal velocity at the end of the back straight

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Speaker 19: to have, so he lost time all the way down

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Speaker 19: the back straight. So the ability, the ability for him

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Speaker 19: to get the car around the corners is where he struggled.

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Speaker 19: And if you're looking against the racing balls, he was

676
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Speaker 19: faster than the racing balls pretty much everywhere, which is

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Speaker 19: why he was the only driver that made up five

678
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Speaker 19: places in the Grand Prix in China. So he started

679
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Speaker 19: twentieth and finished fifteenth and got promoted with his qualifications

680
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Speaker 19: to twelve. No one else made up five places in

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Speaker 19: that Grand Prix.

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Speaker 3: Would have had. Yeah, sorry, Mary, why would he have

683
00:36:35,027 --> 00:36:39,227
Speaker 3: trouble turning into those into those straits? Have you got

684
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Speaker 3: any insight into that?

685
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Speaker 10: It's all.

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Speaker 19: It's all because the way the car is set up

687
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Speaker 19: and designed at the moment where it has max for

688
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Speaker 19: step and likes a particularly pointy front end, so it's

689
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Speaker 19: really sharp at the front end, which means your back

690
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Speaker 19: end tends to slide more, and so Maxican control that

691
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Speaker 19: because he's got the fuel for it, and Linam Lawson

692
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Speaker 19: just doesn't have that same fuel for it currently. He

693
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Speaker 19: would have got it over time, but you know, so

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Speaker 19: because he struggled with the feel of the back end

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Speaker 19: sliding out on him, he was going a little bit

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Speaker 19: slower into the through the final corner, which meant that

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Speaker 19: he was starting slower on the back straight. And no

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Speaker 19: matter how long the backstraight is, if you were ten

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Speaker 19: kilometers slower coming out onto the back straight, you're going

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Speaker 19: to still be ten kilometers slower at the end of the.

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Speaker 6: Back straight than what everyone else was.

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Speaker 3: M can't make it up. They see them, yeah, they said,

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Speaker 3: didn't they They wanted him within three tenths of a second

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Speaker 3: of a step, and that was kind of a metric

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Speaker 3: they were after. So you were saying for large parts

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Speaker 3: of China, he was well.

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Speaker 19: For the first two thirds of the track, he was

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Speaker 19: within he was under three tenths of the second of

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Speaker 19: max a step, and it was the last sector where

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Speaker 19: he lost half a second basically, but he was still

711
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Speaker 19: faster than the racing Bulls cars and the vast majority

712
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Speaker 19: of the other cars that which is why he made

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Speaker 19: up five places.

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Speaker 4: In the race.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Mark, good insight, mate. Thank you really appreciate you

716
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Speaker 3: taking the time to call on and having done all

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Speaker 3: the research for us. Terrific and Hi, Hi Jason, how

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Speaker 3: are you good and good things? It's Pam, Sorry, Pam, sorry, Pam.

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Speaker 7: Yes, from the Naked as a mum, I'm going to say,

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Speaker 7: what about Liam's parents who had to sell their home

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Speaker 7: to afford to get him to where we've got you?

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Speaker 3: I was, yes, I heard that story, and look, I

723
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Speaker 3: think you know, I can't speak for every parent out there,

724
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Speaker 3: but I think you know you do whatever you can

725
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Speaker 3: to allow your kids to chase their dreams. And look,

726
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Speaker 3: I'm reasonably sure that Liam's parents wouldn't regret that even

727
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Speaker 3: given what's happened here. He's still an F one driver,

728
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Speaker 3: still got a big future ahead of him, and he's.

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Speaker 7: Still lives son. I've got two boys now in their

730
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Speaker 7: fifties and invite to say, you do anything for your

731
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Speaker 7: kids to get them into a tea sport or whatever.

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Speaker 7: And it's appearance in this case that I wonder how

733
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Speaker 7: they're feeling about what's heavens with Liam?

734
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Speaker 6: Pam.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what? Yeah? Yeah, Pam, do you know

736
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Speaker 3: what I reckon? They'll be feeling. They'll be feeling like

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Speaker 3: any parent would when their children suffer a setback the whole,

738
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Speaker 3: you know, selling their house to help them Fulfiller's Dreamers

739
00:39:34,307 --> 00:39:37,787
Speaker 3: is one thing that's a demonstration, a material demonstration, I think.

740
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Speaker 3: But every parent wants the best for their kids. Every

741
00:39:41,787 --> 00:39:46,587
Speaker 3: parent's heart breaks when their kids suffer hardship in any way,

742
00:39:46,707 --> 00:39:50,907
Speaker 3: shape or form, but it not getting the part they

743
00:39:50,907 --> 00:39:54,627
Speaker 3: wanted in the school play or being demoted from Red Bull.

744
00:39:55,707 --> 00:40:00,467
Speaker 3: I'm sure Liam's mum and dad feel distraught about what's

745
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Speaker 3: happened to their son, but they will be wrapping an

746
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Speaker 3: enormous amount of support around him, ironically enough to support

747
00:40:07,147 --> 00:40:09,787
Speaker 3: that hasn't been wrapped around him by Red Bull. But

748
00:40:09,827 --> 00:40:14,347
Speaker 3: then again, Red Ball are not Liam Lawson's parents. His

749
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Speaker 3: parents will be proud of him. Whatever he does to

750
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Speaker 3: even reach the heights that he has is extremely credible.

751
00:40:24,547 --> 00:40:30,387
Speaker 3: It's so good. And whatever happens from here, Liam Lawson's parents,

752
00:40:30,427 --> 00:40:32,947
Speaker 3: like any parent, will be very very proud of what

753
00:40:33,587 --> 00:40:37,107
Speaker 3: he has done and what I am absolutely certain he

754
00:40:37,187 --> 00:40:39,747
Speaker 3: will go on to achieve. Pam, thanks for youh Cale

755
00:40:39,827 --> 00:40:40,267
Speaker 3: seven to.

756
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Speaker 1: One breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails

757
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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Vine News Talk ZENB.

758
00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:51,827
Speaker 3: Four to one, final couple of texts Pinty so many

759
00:40:51,827 --> 00:40:54,427
Speaker 3: experts commenting from far away. We don't know the whole story.

760
00:40:54,467 --> 00:40:57,027
Speaker 3: These Red Bull people aren't falls not likely to shoot

761
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Speaker 3: themselves in the foot, ruining their reputation without having done

762
00:41:00,107 --> 00:41:02,667
Speaker 3: their homework. Let's see what happens, Yeah, Rob, let's see

763
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:04,827
Speaker 3: what happens. You're right, they're not you know, they even

764
00:41:04,907 --> 00:41:07,227
Speaker 3: just come down the last show. Have they still think

765
00:41:07,267 --> 00:41:10,667
Speaker 3: the treatment of Liam's been absolutely appalling? Money Talks says

766
00:41:10,707 --> 00:41:13,027
Speaker 3: Malcolm and Red Ball are so unpredictable. They're the worst

767
00:41:13,067 --> 00:41:15,307
Speaker 3: team to work for while having the hardest car and

768
00:41:15,467 --> 00:41:17,667
Speaker 3: f one to drive. The best thing for Liam is

769
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Speaker 3: to beat the Japanese driver next weekend. Thanks Malcolm, I agree.

770
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Speaker 3: There will be so many eyes on the Japanese Grand

771
00:41:24,467 --> 00:41:28,067
Speaker 3: Prix next weekend. I cannot wait to see how Liam goes.

772
00:41:28,107 --> 00:41:31,027
Speaker 3: Thanks for all your causing correspondence. Great our folks, Thanks

773
00:41:31,067 --> 00:41:34,267
Speaker 3: for calling him with all your expertise. Next, now, what

774
00:41:34,347 --> 00:41:37,387
Speaker 3: are we gonna do about Auckland Stadiums?

775
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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

776
00:41:40,747 --> 00:41:41,907
Speaker 1: and after fields.

777
00:41:42,467 --> 00:41:46,107
Speaker 2: It's all on weekends Forward with Jason Vane on your

778
00:41:46,147 --> 00:41:47,227
Speaker 2: home of sport.

779
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Speaker 3: US Talk Well one oh seven, Welcome into the show.

780
00:41:51,787 --> 00:41:54,267
Speaker 3: This is weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald is

781
00:41:54,467 --> 00:41:56,947
Speaker 3: show producer this how I want to talk of it?

782
00:41:56,947 --> 00:42:02,467
Speaker 3: About Stadia. I never feel right saying the plural form

783
00:42:02,507 --> 00:42:05,427
Speaker 3: of stadium stadia. I know it's correct, but I just

784
00:42:05,467 --> 00:42:09,867
Speaker 3: prefer stadium anyway. Maybe we can save venues instead, to

785
00:42:09,867 --> 00:42:15,267
Speaker 3: save me the grammatical discomfort. Auckland Council this week have

786
00:42:15,307 --> 00:42:19,187
Speaker 3: said we don't want a new stadium. Well, if we do,

787
00:42:19,267 --> 00:42:21,467
Speaker 3: we're not going to back it. We back an upgrade

788
00:42:21,467 --> 00:42:23,067
Speaker 3: of Eden Park, but we're not going to put me

789
00:42:23,147 --> 00:42:26,707
Speaker 3: money towards it. It's a very odd situation. Rather than

790
00:42:26,827 --> 00:42:28,587
Speaker 3: delve into the politics of it all, I mean, we're

791
00:42:28,627 --> 00:42:30,947
Speaker 3: all sports fans, aren't we. I wanted to get a

792
00:42:30,947 --> 00:42:34,107
Speaker 3: fans perspective, which we'll do in just a moment. James

793
00:42:34,187 --> 00:42:35,987
Speaker 3: mcconey this hour as well, and if we have time

794
00:42:36,027 --> 00:42:39,147
Speaker 3: into the black Caps camp. Lydia Coe has picked up

795
00:42:39,147 --> 00:42:42,587
Speaker 3: a shot and is now four under through seventeen holes

796
00:42:42,587 --> 00:42:47,547
Speaker 3: in her third rounds at the LPGA's Ford Championship. Thirteen

797
00:42:47,627 --> 00:42:50,147
Speaker 3: under for the tournament, now just two shots back from

798
00:42:50,267 --> 00:42:54,907
Speaker 3: Charlie Hull and lily A Vu fifteen under through sixteen

799
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Speaker 3: and fourteen holes, respectively. So Lydia co well and truly

800
00:42:57,747 --> 00:43:00,707
Speaker 3: in the mix. Sixty eight and sixty seven to start

801
00:43:01,627 --> 00:43:06,067
Speaker 3: this tournament and a four under round so far so

802
00:43:06,467 --> 00:43:09,147
Speaker 3: looking very good as per usual Lydiako will keep eyes

803
00:43:09,187 --> 00:43:12,507
Speaker 3: on that for you, as we will on plunket shield cricket.

804
00:43:12,547 --> 00:43:15,947
Speaker 3: No plan to need in which doesn't help Northern's Northern's cause.

805
00:43:16,307 --> 00:43:20,067
Speaker 3: Auckland and Canterbury battling away in the sunshine in Wellington,

806
00:43:20,067 --> 00:43:22,787
Speaker 3: can I tell you? Auckland Council has this week endorsed

807
00:43:22,787 --> 00:43:27,427
Speaker 3: a staged redevelopments of eden Park, deciding against backing the

808
00:43:27,467 --> 00:43:31,027
Speaker 3: construction of a new downtown stadium. They stop short though,

809
00:43:31,267 --> 00:43:34,067
Speaker 3: of backing a full upgrade to eden Park and furthermore

810
00:43:34,547 --> 00:43:36,827
Speaker 3: said they don't want to pay any money towards redeveloping

811
00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:39,187
Speaker 3: eden Park and in fact they don't have any money.

812
00:43:39,467 --> 00:43:42,587
Speaker 3: The government also suggesting it doesn't want to contribute the

813
00:43:42,627 --> 00:43:46,667
Speaker 3: one hundred million Eden Park needs to start its upgrade.

814
00:43:47,227 --> 00:43:50,307
Speaker 3: Eden Park reckons the upgrade will cost around five hundred

815
00:43:50,627 --> 00:43:54,507
Speaker 3: and fifty million. There are suggestions that's very light and

816
00:43:54,547 --> 00:43:58,587
Speaker 3: that it'll actually be closer to one billion dollars. So

817
00:43:58,627 --> 00:44:01,227
Speaker 3: what do we have here? Pretty much a non decision right.

818
00:44:01,227 --> 00:44:03,987
Speaker 3: The council said, we back Eden Park, but we can't

819
00:44:04,187 --> 00:44:07,827
Speaker 3: slash won't throw any money at it. We don't back

820
00:44:07,867 --> 00:44:10,387
Speaker 3: a new stadium, say the council, and we probably wouldn't

821
00:44:10,427 --> 00:44:12,587
Speaker 3: invest in that either even if it was to be built.

822
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Speaker 3: So where does it leave us in terms of world

823
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Speaker 3: class sporting facilities for Auckland and simply with places in

824
00:44:20,027 --> 00:44:23,747
Speaker 3: Auckland that are good to watch live sport at. Rather

825
00:44:23,827 --> 00:44:26,187
Speaker 3: than delve into the politics of this, I wanted to

826
00:44:26,187 --> 00:44:29,747
Speaker 3: get a sports fans view one of the biggest I know,

827
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Speaker 3: Mike Lane, co founder of the Base Brigade, head of

828
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Speaker 3: the Alternative commentary collective, Thanks for crossing brands onto zb

829
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Speaker 3: for us, Mike, How are.

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Speaker 12: You no worries? Piny man? Is this the world's most

831
00:44:42,707 --> 00:44:48,147
Speaker 12: boring non debate of all time? God, it's like it

832
00:44:48,227 --> 00:44:51,627
Speaker 12: is so tedious man, Like I guarantee every outside of

833
00:44:51,667 --> 00:44:55,187
Speaker 12: Auckland listen to this. Are like who gives a staff

834
00:44:55,427 --> 00:44:58,067
Speaker 12: with a bunch of Aucklanders who can't make their mind up,

835
00:44:58,307 --> 00:45:01,747
Speaker 12: who are being held hostage by small minded procrastinators, which

836
00:45:01,747 --> 00:45:05,547
Speaker 12: Gregor Paul mentioned on Friday. Man, it's frustrating, man, we suck.

837
00:45:05,587 --> 00:45:07,867
Speaker 12: I'm embarrassed to be in Auckland. I'm embarrassed to live

838
00:45:07,867 --> 00:45:10,387
Speaker 12: in Auckland. This is this is this is the worst

839
00:45:10,627 --> 00:45:13,347
Speaker 12: as a sports fan, this is the worst. We're the pits,

840
00:45:13,467 --> 00:45:14,027
Speaker 12: we suck.

841
00:45:15,227 --> 00:45:16,787
Speaker 3: You'll be pleased I gave you the call to come

842
00:45:16,827 --> 00:45:20,187
Speaker 3: on the show for such a No.

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00:45:20,507 --> 00:45:21,787
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's true.

844
00:45:21,827 --> 00:45:24,787
Speaker 12: Like you look at every other Australasian major city in

845
00:45:25,667 --> 00:45:30,467
Speaker 12: throughout Australia, Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Purse, They've all got

846
00:45:30,587 --> 00:45:33,627
Speaker 12: new stadia, they've all got sports precincts. What have we

847
00:45:33,707 --> 00:45:37,987
Speaker 12: got Auckland Nothing. It's embarrassing, It is embarrassing.

848
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Speaker 4: I I don't.

849
00:45:40,187 --> 00:45:41,867
Speaker 12: Know if it's going to happen in my lifetime. Piny,

850
00:45:41,987 --> 00:45:43,747
Speaker 12: this is this, this is the stage I've got to

851
00:45:43,867 --> 00:45:45,987
Speaker 12: our forty six year old man. I don't think I'm

852
00:45:46,027 --> 00:45:47,867
Speaker 12: ever going to see a new stadium built in Auckland

853
00:45:47,987 --> 00:45:50,027
Speaker 12: in my lifetime. That's how depressed I am about this.

854
00:45:50,507 --> 00:45:52,587
Speaker 3: That is crazy, Because I've got a question here for you.

855
00:45:52,627 --> 00:45:54,787
Speaker 3: Can you see a time where a new stadium is

856
00:45:54,827 --> 00:45:57,627
Speaker 3: built on Auckland's waterfront? So clear the answer is not

857
00:45:57,667 --> 00:45:59,307
Speaker 3: for the next fifty years anyway.

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00:45:59,867 --> 00:46:03,307
Speaker 12: No, I just don't get it. There's just no no vision.

859
00:46:03,467 --> 00:46:06,827
Speaker 12: There's no vision whatsoever. If you anyone who lives in Auckland

860
00:46:07,147 --> 00:46:10,867
Speaker 12: knows that a downtown stadium would change the face, that

861
00:46:10,867 --> 00:46:15,067
Speaker 12: would revolutionize downtown Aukland. You think of the bars, the restaurants,

862
00:46:15,067 --> 00:46:17,627
Speaker 12: the hotels, all in the stones throw You think about

863
00:46:17,627 --> 00:46:19,987
Speaker 12: a Friday night where you could leave work, have a beer,

864
00:46:20,107 --> 00:46:22,987
Speaker 12: grab a meal, go watch some football, some rugby, some

865
00:46:23,067 --> 00:46:26,187
Speaker 12: rugby league, you know, down at the waterfront, and then

866
00:46:26,267 --> 00:46:28,747
Speaker 12: crews home. That's not part of our routine.

867
00:46:28,387 --> 00:46:28,827
Speaker 6: At the moment.

868
00:46:28,867 --> 00:46:30,507
Speaker 12: Our routine at the moment is how we're going to

869
00:46:30,507 --> 00:46:32,147
Speaker 12: get to eat part, how we're going to get to

870
00:46:32,147 --> 00:46:34,267
Speaker 12: Mount Smart, how we're going to get home.

871
00:46:34,467 --> 00:46:36,107
Speaker 4: You're going to basically a whole day.

872
00:46:36,187 --> 00:46:39,547
Speaker 12: There's no routine, there's no habit here, and we're going

873
00:46:39,587 --> 00:46:42,947
Speaker 12: to require someone with a lot of vision and a

874
00:46:42,947 --> 00:46:45,147
Speaker 12: lot of nuts to do it, and unfortunately, at the moment,

875
00:46:45,307 --> 00:46:48,227
Speaker 12: no one has got the actual gumption.

876
00:46:48,307 --> 00:46:48,787
Speaker 6: To do it.

877
00:46:48,787 --> 00:46:50,747
Speaker 12: We'd rather build a two billion dollar in a city

878
00:46:50,827 --> 00:46:55,347
Speaker 12: rail link that goes nowhere. I don't know, pointing it's

879
00:46:55,387 --> 00:46:57,667
Speaker 12: going to have to take bring in. Maybe we make

880
00:46:57,707 --> 00:47:00,627
Speaker 12: it a part of it's a Russian Oli gap ONTs

881
00:47:00,627 --> 00:47:03,027
Speaker 12: to live in New Zealand. Maybe part of that is

882
00:47:03,067 --> 00:47:04,427
Speaker 12: you're going to have to build a stadium then you

883
00:47:04,467 --> 00:47:06,627
Speaker 12: can go live up the Bay of Island somewhere. That

884
00:47:06,707 --> 00:47:08,667
Speaker 12: should be one. Maybe that's a concession we should have

885
00:47:08,707 --> 00:47:10,987
Speaker 12: because it's going to have to take a Bill Foley.

886
00:47:11,267 --> 00:47:13,467
Speaker 12: It's going to have to take a billion in. Look

887
00:47:13,467 --> 00:47:15,107
Speaker 12: at the Mowbrays. Come on, what are they up to.

888
00:47:15,387 --> 00:47:17,867
Speaker 12: It's going to take someone like that to actually instigate

889
00:47:17,867 --> 00:47:19,707
Speaker 12: this because I'm afraid it's not going to come from

890
00:47:19,707 --> 00:47:21,747
Speaker 12: the Council and it's not going to come from the government.

891
00:47:22,627 --> 00:47:24,507
Speaker 3: We'll get to the Mowbrays in Bill Foley in the

892
00:47:24,507 --> 00:47:26,587
Speaker 3: moment and what they want to do at Western Springs.

893
00:47:26,627 --> 00:47:29,347
Speaker 3: But so is it the access? Is it the getting there?

894
00:47:29,387 --> 00:47:30,267
Speaker 3: Once you get there?

895
00:47:30,667 --> 00:47:31,107
Speaker 2: Eden Park?

896
00:47:31,147 --> 00:47:33,867
Speaker 3: What do most people think about watching sport at Eden Park?

897
00:47:33,907 --> 00:47:37,627
Speaker 12: Do you think, oh, look rugby, it's not bad. It's

898
00:47:37,627 --> 00:47:39,947
Speaker 12: not bad. Look I don't hate on Eaton Park. I've

899
00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:41,667
Speaker 12: had some great times at Eaton Park. The people that

900
00:47:41,787 --> 00:47:44,547
Speaker 12: run it amazing. The fact they turned around three codes

901
00:47:44,547 --> 00:47:49,027
Speaker 12: in four days the other weekend, it's great. But cricket,

902
00:47:49,227 --> 00:47:52,187
Speaker 12: no thanks, Test Match cricket. When was the last time

903
00:47:52,227 --> 00:47:53,987
Speaker 12: there was a Test math Test match played in Auckland.

904
00:47:54,067 --> 00:47:57,707
Speaker 12: I can't remember what fifteen ten years ago. Maybe yeah,

905
00:47:57,747 --> 00:48:00,707
Speaker 12: you know, as a cricket fan, move out of Auckland

906
00:48:00,707 --> 00:48:02,947
Speaker 12: because you're not going to see much international cricket. But

907
00:48:03,707 --> 00:48:05,867
Speaker 12: the thing was Eden Park. It's a great stadium. I

908
00:48:05,947 --> 00:48:08,347
Speaker 12: like it. It's just in the wrong place, Bony. It is

909
00:48:08,387 --> 00:48:11,547
Speaker 12: in the wrong place it needs. It's not serviced by

910
00:48:11,587 --> 00:48:15,067
Speaker 12: any major bars or hotels. They say you can catch

911
00:48:15,067 --> 00:48:17,907
Speaker 12: a train straight there. Yeah, if you're willing to hang

912
00:48:17,947 --> 00:48:21,067
Speaker 12: around for kind of an hour to get home, that's fine.

913
00:48:21,387 --> 00:48:25,347
Speaker 12: But I don't know's it serves a purpose. At the moment,

914
00:48:25,387 --> 00:48:28,067
Speaker 12: it's the best we've got and we're kind of living

915
00:48:28,107 --> 00:48:29,987
Speaker 12: with it when we don't have to. We don't, like

916
00:48:30,027 --> 00:48:33,467
Speaker 12: I said, with the only Australasian city without a modern stadium.

917
00:48:35,347 --> 00:48:36,747
Speaker 3: How do people feel about Mount Smart?

918
00:48:36,947 --> 00:48:37,147
Speaker 6: Same?

919
00:48:37,267 --> 00:48:37,707
Speaker 3: Same thing?

920
00:48:37,787 --> 00:48:37,907
Speaker 6: Is it?

921
00:48:38,027 --> 00:48:38,227
Speaker 14: Is? It?

922
00:48:38,267 --> 00:48:39,027
Speaker 3: Just getting there?

923
00:48:39,667 --> 00:48:39,867
Speaker 5: Yeah?

924
00:48:39,907 --> 00:48:42,707
Speaker 12: I look Mount Smart. If you took a if you

925
00:48:42,707 --> 00:48:44,627
Speaker 12: took a visitor from overseas, because I just came back

926
00:48:44,667 --> 00:48:46,787
Speaker 12: from you called me in Vegas. I can't hardly remember

927
00:48:46,827 --> 00:48:48,787
Speaker 12: the phone call, but I did go to a couple

928
00:48:48,787 --> 00:48:51,227
Speaker 12: of it hockey games. Over there, and obviously we went

929
00:48:51,267 --> 00:48:54,867
Speaker 12: to Aldi Stadium for the Warriors. Man, that's next level,

930
00:48:55,187 --> 00:48:57,747
Speaker 12: like in terms of the stadium there, in terms of

931
00:48:57,747 --> 00:48:59,507
Speaker 12: what you can do in terms of the facilities. If

932
00:48:59,547 --> 00:49:03,387
Speaker 12: you took someone to Mount Smart, mildly embarrassing. And I've

933
00:49:03,427 --> 00:49:06,147
Speaker 12: got a very faithful group of fans in the AFC

934
00:49:06,467 --> 00:49:08,907
Speaker 12: and the Warriors. But if you take a step back

935
00:49:08,947 --> 00:49:12,267
Speaker 12: and look at that stadium, it's not great. And it's

936
00:49:12,307 --> 00:49:16,947
Speaker 12: in the middle of industrial Penrose, South Aukland. Again, no bars,

937
00:49:17,507 --> 00:49:21,867
Speaker 12: no restaurants, no hotels. It's not serving anyone downtown. It's

938
00:49:21,867 --> 00:49:26,507
Speaker 12: not helping the city out at all. So look, they're

939
00:49:26,547 --> 00:49:29,867
Speaker 12: not great. I'm frustrated. You you could probably tell Pioneers

940
00:49:29,867 --> 00:49:32,747
Speaker 12: a sports fan, it's frustrating to watch all this unfold

941
00:49:33,187 --> 00:49:36,227
Speaker 12: and it's you just end up yelling at the clouds.

942
00:49:36,547 --> 00:49:38,107
Speaker 12: I don't know. I don't know how we're going to

943
00:49:38,147 --> 00:49:39,627
Speaker 12: fix it. I don't know how what's going to happen.

944
00:49:39,627 --> 00:49:41,427
Speaker 12: We'll probably still be you'll bring me next year, we'll

945
00:49:41,467 --> 00:49:44,227
Speaker 12: talk about this and the year after and the year after,

946
00:49:44,267 --> 00:49:46,187
Speaker 12: and we'll probably just you can just press repeat on

947
00:49:46,227 --> 00:49:47,907
Speaker 12: my interview, go it'll be the same thing.

948
00:49:48,547 --> 00:49:52,827
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it feels like you're right, it needs vision,

949
00:49:52,867 --> 00:49:56,987
Speaker 3: it needs somebody. But the I mean billionaire oligarchs, all

950
00:49:57,027 --> 00:49:59,867
Speaker 3: those with the resources to do something about this are

951
00:49:59,907 --> 00:50:03,347
Speaker 3: pretty thin on the ground, aren't they. So Like I mean,

952
00:50:03,347 --> 00:50:04,947
Speaker 3: you look at a place You've mentioned a couple of

953
00:50:04,947 --> 00:50:07,187
Speaker 3: places where you go, and Melbourne a good example. There's

954
00:50:07,227 --> 00:50:10,227
Speaker 3: some magnificent venues to go and watch sport over there

955
00:50:10,267 --> 00:50:12,387
Speaker 3: and most most of not all of that has been

956
00:50:12,587 --> 00:50:15,147
Speaker 3: funded by state government. Right they've decided, Okay, we want

957
00:50:15,187 --> 00:50:17,907
Speaker 3: to get people here, We'll put money into into venues

958
00:50:18,147 --> 00:50:21,107
Speaker 3: so they'll come. It just doesn't feel likely to you

959
00:50:21,187 --> 00:50:23,067
Speaker 3: that there will be any of that sort of vision

960
00:50:23,387 --> 00:50:24,227
Speaker 3: in the near future.

961
00:50:24,827 --> 00:50:26,587
Speaker 12: Oh God, it's going to have to take someone special

962
00:50:27,347 --> 00:50:29,707
Speaker 12: in terms of council to have the vision to do it,

963
00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:33,467
Speaker 12: because it will pay dividends. It will pay dividends in

964
00:50:33,787 --> 00:50:35,427
Speaker 12: central UK. And if you have someone who comes in

965
00:50:35,467 --> 00:50:38,187
Speaker 12: with a bit of vision, I feel like it's probably

966
00:50:38,187 --> 00:50:41,587
Speaker 12: going to have to be a kind of private public partnership.

967
00:50:41,667 --> 00:50:43,147
Speaker 12: I think there's going to have to be someone like

968
00:50:43,147 --> 00:50:43,787
Speaker 12: a Bill Foley.

969
00:50:43,787 --> 00:50:46,547
Speaker 6: He will go, hey, I'll help out here to.

970
00:50:46,547 --> 00:50:49,547
Speaker 12: A degree, But who's going to benefit the most from

971
00:50:49,587 --> 00:50:52,907
Speaker 12: having a new stadia in a sports precinc in downtown Auckland.

972
00:50:53,187 --> 00:50:55,507
Speaker 12: It's going to be Auckland. It's going to be all

973
00:50:55,507 --> 00:50:58,307
Speaker 12: the hospitality, it's going to be the tourism everything else.

974
00:50:58,387 --> 00:51:02,707
Speaker 12: So they have to front up and be involved and

975
00:51:02,787 --> 00:51:05,187
Speaker 12: invest in the city. So they say they want to

976
00:51:05,187 --> 00:51:09,387
Speaker 12: invest in infrastructure whatever. I mean. The Inner City rail

977
00:51:09,467 --> 00:51:11,067
Speaker 12: Link is the biggest joke that was ever been. It's

978
00:51:11,067 --> 00:51:14,147
Speaker 12: caused billions of dollars. They can't even mow the burns.

979
00:51:14,187 --> 00:51:16,707
Speaker 12: And as Gregor and Paul mentioned in his article, so

980
00:51:17,067 --> 00:51:18,987
Speaker 12: you know what, Piney, I'm moving a christ Church. You

981
00:51:19,027 --> 00:51:21,627
Speaker 12: know what. That's the new that that is the new

982
00:51:21,747 --> 00:51:23,347
Speaker 12: home of sport in New Zealand.

983
00:51:23,387 --> 00:51:23,667
Speaker 4: It is.

984
00:51:23,787 --> 00:51:27,147
Speaker 12: It's got Hagley Oval when takahas finished. It's going to

985
00:51:27,187 --> 00:51:30,507
Speaker 12: be a covered stadium, perfect for football, built for rugby.

986
00:51:30,507 --> 00:51:33,067
Speaker 12: You're right on the sideline, You're not thirty meters back

987
00:51:33,147 --> 00:51:35,707
Speaker 12: like you are at Sky Stadium in Wellington. You know

988
00:51:35,827 --> 00:51:37,827
Speaker 12: it's it's going to be the news home of sport

989
00:51:37,867 --> 00:51:40,307
Speaker 12: in New Zealand. And that's it. That's it. I'm out,

990
00:51:40,427 --> 00:51:42,347
Speaker 12: I'm done. I'm moving a christ Church. I never thought

991
00:51:42,347 --> 00:51:44,227
Speaker 12: i'd say that. I'll still support the chief.

992
00:51:46,267 --> 00:51:48,587
Speaker 3: Well, I don't have any more questions. Do you have

993
00:51:48,627 --> 00:51:49,627
Speaker 3: any more comments?

994
00:51:50,747 --> 00:51:52,787
Speaker 12: Sorry, Piney, you can tell you've rung the wrong person

995
00:51:52,827 --> 00:51:56,467
Speaker 12: on this one. I have, you know, even the choice

996
00:51:56,467 --> 00:51:59,787
Speaker 12: of going to those two options Key Park, they're completely

997
00:51:59,827 --> 00:52:03,947
Speaker 12: ignored the Winyard Quarter, the Tank Farm option, which was

998
00:52:03,987 --> 00:52:07,587
Speaker 12: the only pitch in there that took into count cricket,

999
00:52:08,227 --> 00:52:11,827
Speaker 12: and using Victoria Park as a cricket option, as making

1000
00:52:11,867 --> 00:52:14,107
Speaker 12: that part of the sports precinct with a stadium on

1001
00:52:14,147 --> 00:52:16,507
Speaker 12: the Tank Farm, a smaller ten thousand six stadium for

1002
00:52:16,587 --> 00:52:20,707
Speaker 12: basketball tennis, and then building a walkway down to Victoria

1003
00:52:20,747 --> 00:52:24,067
Speaker 12: Park where you could host international cricket on Victoria Park.

1004
00:52:24,107 --> 00:52:26,467
Speaker 12: They were the only ones that fought through the whole vision,

1005
00:52:26,827 --> 00:52:29,747
Speaker 12: yet they were ignored in favor of Key Park, which,

1006
00:52:30,067 --> 00:52:32,067
Speaker 12: let's be honest, is never going to happen with the

1007
00:52:32,107 --> 00:52:34,227
Speaker 12: fact they had to move railway tracks or build over

1008
00:52:34,307 --> 00:52:38,907
Speaker 12: railway tracks. So I don't know this whole We've on

1009
00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:42,667
Speaker 12: our Agenda podcast, Pony, we've banned any more discussions on

1010
00:52:42,707 --> 00:52:46,547
Speaker 12: the autum stadium debate because it's just so tedious, it's

1011
00:52:46,547 --> 00:52:49,747
Speaker 12: so boring, and nothing's ever going to happen, and it's

1012
00:52:49,747 --> 00:52:52,187
Speaker 12: so frustrating as a sports stand to sit back and

1013
00:52:52,227 --> 00:52:53,147
Speaker 12: watch the shambles.

1014
00:52:53,907 --> 00:52:56,787
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad the embargo doesn't doesn't extend to News

1015
00:52:56,827 --> 00:53:01,267
Speaker 3: Talks MB's weekend sports show. Mike. It's been educational listening

1016
00:53:01,307 --> 00:53:04,667
Speaker 3: to you, made and entertaining and in many ways quite

1017
00:53:04,707 --> 00:53:06,907
Speaker 3: frustrating as well. So I'll tell my friends in christ

1018
00:53:06,987 --> 00:53:10,787
Speaker 3: Church to expect your inquiry into some of the some

1019
00:53:10,827 --> 00:53:12,947
Speaker 3: of the bitter real estate in that area soon and

1020
00:53:13,347 --> 00:53:15,507
Speaker 3: hopefully we can hopefully we can catch up again soon.

1021
00:53:15,867 --> 00:53:17,507
Speaker 12: Yeah, I go, man, We're coming to christ Church. We're

1022
00:53:17,547 --> 00:53:18,307
Speaker 12: coming christ Church.

1023
00:53:18,307 --> 00:53:18,747
Speaker 10: Watch out.

1024
00:53:20,867 --> 00:53:23,467
Speaker 3: Mike Lane. What a legend of a man, head of

1025
00:53:23,507 --> 00:53:27,747
Speaker 3: the alternative commentary collector, forthright in his views, extremely honest,

1026
00:53:27,787 --> 00:53:31,667
Speaker 3: authentic and makes a lot of sense, doesn't He makes

1027
00:53:31,667 --> 00:53:33,907
Speaker 3: a heck of a lot of sense. Your chance to

1028
00:53:33,907 --> 00:53:36,307
Speaker 3: have your say on this? Oh eight hundred and eighty

1029
00:53:36,347 --> 00:53:41,147
Speaker 3: ten eighty Aucklander's sum this up for us. Your stadium

1030
00:53:41,227 --> 00:53:45,547
Speaker 3: landscape is what Mike is saying. Does that resonate with you?

1031
00:53:45,667 --> 00:53:49,027
Speaker 3: Is that how you feel as well? And what we've

1032
00:53:49,067 --> 00:53:51,267
Speaker 3: got you? Where do you like watching sport? Where don't you?

1033
00:53:52,707 --> 00:53:55,307
Speaker 3: And can you ever see a time a new Waterfront

1034
00:53:55,307 --> 00:53:59,587
Speaker 3: Stadium is built. Mike's right. Eden Park's actually not the worst.

1035
00:54:00,227 --> 00:54:06,507
Speaker 3: I quite like watching sport there. It's too big most

1036
00:54:06,547 --> 00:54:09,427
Speaker 3: of the time, of course, but when it's full like

1037
00:54:09,547 --> 00:54:12,547
Speaker 3: rawbacks tests terrific. It's oval that never helps, right, it

1038
00:54:12,547 --> 00:54:14,707
Speaker 3: never helps. You're too far away from the action in

1039
00:54:14,747 --> 00:54:16,467
Speaker 3: a rugby game. But the place has got a bit

1040
00:54:16,507 --> 00:54:20,227
Speaker 3: of history and loser's history. Beaver's kick in the twenty

1041
00:54:20,227 --> 00:54:23,747
Speaker 3: eleven Rugby World Cup Final, Grant Elliott's six in the

1042
00:54:23,787 --> 00:54:25,987
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup semings, and name just too.

1043
00:54:26,627 --> 00:54:31,507
Speaker 3: It's got some history about it. But is it is

1044
00:54:31,547 --> 00:54:35,507
Speaker 3: it fit for purpose? As Mike said, and I think

1045
00:54:35,547 --> 00:54:37,907
Speaker 3: this is the nub of the issue. And the same

1046
00:54:37,987 --> 00:54:41,387
Speaker 3: goes for Mount Smart. It's just in the wrong place.

1047
00:54:42,947 --> 00:54:46,227
Speaker 3: It's just in the wrong place. Hello, Kelvin, here you.

1048
00:54:46,227 --> 00:54:49,187
Speaker 20: Got afternoon, Jason. I always originally thought Maun Smart was

1049
00:54:49,227 --> 00:54:52,267
Speaker 20: the way to go before it became the Warriors home.

1050
00:54:52,307 --> 00:54:54,427
Speaker 20: But the railway line is only just down the road.

1051
00:54:54,467 --> 00:54:57,507
Speaker 20: But the main to do at the stadiums for me personally,

1052
00:54:57,787 --> 00:55:00,667
Speaker 20: your memory is far better than mine because mine's heading

1053
00:55:00,667 --> 00:55:03,147
Speaker 20: on to eighty four years of age. I seen to

1054
00:55:03,227 --> 00:55:07,067
Speaker 20: recall in my mind in recent years, I'm sure it

1055
00:55:07,107 --> 00:55:11,427
Speaker 20: was the government put eighty or ninety that's eight zero

1056
00:55:11,627 --> 00:55:14,427
Speaker 20: or nine zero million into man.

1057
00:55:14,387 --> 00:55:16,907
Speaker 3: Eden and to Aiden Park.

1058
00:55:17,947 --> 00:55:18,907
Speaker 20: Yeah, to Eaton Park.

1059
00:55:19,027 --> 00:55:21,627
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1060
00:55:21,467 --> 00:55:23,747
Speaker 20: It didn't the Gavin put all that money into it.

1061
00:55:23,867 --> 00:55:24,147
Speaker 14: So what.

1062
00:55:25,947 --> 00:55:28,027
Speaker 20: You know, what was the spruce up with eighty or

1063
00:55:28,067 --> 00:55:29,947
Speaker 20: ninety million. I'm sure it was that figure.

1064
00:55:30,307 --> 00:55:32,387
Speaker 3: Well I can I can only imagine that was before

1065
00:55:32,387 --> 00:55:35,107
Speaker 3: the twenty eleven Rugby World Cup, to increase the capacity

1066
00:55:35,747 --> 00:55:38,347
Speaker 3: of it govern that is, that might be what that

1067
00:55:38,427 --> 00:55:40,507
Speaker 3: might have been, what it was. See now, like I say,

1068
00:55:40,547 --> 00:55:43,467
Speaker 3: the I mean the powers of being Eaton parks are okay.

1069
00:55:43,587 --> 00:55:45,187
Speaker 3: A full upgrade is going to cost five hundred and

1070
00:55:45,227 --> 00:55:48,787
Speaker 3: fifty million. Most people think that's light and only about

1071
00:55:49,107 --> 00:55:51,147
Speaker 3: just over half of what actually will be needed to

1072
00:55:51,707 --> 00:55:54,947
Speaker 3: make a truly world class A billion a billion dollars

1073
00:55:55,227 --> 00:55:59,227
Speaker 3: to upgrade a stadium that, for many people is in

1074
00:55:59,267 --> 00:56:00,707
Speaker 3: the wrong part of the city.

1075
00:56:01,347 --> 00:56:03,987
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, no, there's no hotels or anything around there

1076
00:56:04,107 --> 00:56:08,787
Speaker 20: is there. But I support the residents in a way

1077
00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:13,107
Speaker 20: with with Haton Park. I know true sporting people won't

1078
00:56:13,147 --> 00:56:13,987
Speaker 20: agree with that.

1079
00:56:14,067 --> 00:56:16,307
Speaker 3: But I think I think I think I think a

1080
00:56:16,307 --> 00:56:19,107
Speaker 3: lot of true sporting people will agree with that, Kelvin.

1081
00:56:19,427 --> 00:56:22,307
Speaker 3: You know, a stadium which has got access to the

1082
00:56:22,347 --> 00:56:24,547
Speaker 3: harbor and everything that you know that goes with it

1083
00:56:24,587 --> 00:56:26,547
Speaker 3: down there on the waterfront of the viat Act. Look,

1084
00:56:26,587 --> 00:56:28,867
Speaker 3: I'm not from Auckland, but you know, it feels to

1085
00:56:28,907 --> 00:56:30,787
Speaker 3: me as though if you if you plank a stadium

1086
00:56:30,787 --> 00:56:33,147
Speaker 3: down there by the vite Act, there's all sorts of

1087
00:56:33,147 --> 00:56:36,827
Speaker 3: facilities around their accommodation, retail, hospitality, all of those sorts

1088
00:56:36,827 --> 00:56:41,027
Speaker 3: of things an easy reach. So a sporting precincts created

1089
00:56:41,067 --> 00:56:43,427
Speaker 3: there will never that will never happen at Eden Park.

1090
00:56:43,907 --> 00:56:43,987
Speaker 14: No.

1091
00:56:44,227 --> 00:56:48,747
Speaker 20: Well, what you said just then about all the facilities,

1092
00:56:48,907 --> 00:56:52,147
Speaker 20: I'm building one on the waterfront down there. That part

1093
00:56:52,147 --> 00:56:55,627
Speaker 20: of it is correct. But for me personally, I'm here

1094
00:56:55,667 --> 00:56:59,947
Speaker 20: in the tron I would absolutely hate to see a

1095
00:56:59,987 --> 00:57:04,227
Speaker 20: big blob on the waterfront there at Auckland Harbor. It

1096
00:57:04,307 --> 00:57:07,747
Speaker 20: would just ruin the whole cold comple Yeah, I.

1097
00:57:07,667 --> 00:57:09,347
Speaker 3: Guess that's the other part of it, Calvin. That's the

1098
00:57:09,347 --> 00:57:11,547
Speaker 3: other part of it, isn't it. You know, we're never

1099
00:57:11,627 --> 00:57:13,627
Speaker 3: ever going to get full agreement on this, never ever,

1100
00:57:14,027 --> 00:57:16,907
Speaker 3: And in many ways it's probably as Mike Klain said,

1101
00:57:17,227 --> 00:57:21,187
Speaker 3: a discussion topic that you know that is relatively fruitless

1102
00:57:21,227 --> 00:57:24,587
Speaker 3: really because it's been proven by a succession of those

1103
00:57:24,627 --> 00:57:26,747
Speaker 3: in power in Auckland that they just don't have the

1104
00:57:26,747 --> 00:57:31,547
Speaker 3: appetite for it. They're not of the mood to be brave,

1105
00:57:32,107 --> 00:57:36,467
Speaker 3: to have courage to say yep, we will back it.

1106
00:57:37,667 --> 00:57:39,467
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard enough to get them to commit to,

1107
00:57:39,947 --> 00:57:43,267
Speaker 3: you know, to commit to having sale GP there every

1108
00:57:43,347 --> 00:57:47,347
Speaker 3: year without a bed tax. So are they really going

1109
00:57:47,427 --> 00:57:49,107
Speaker 3: to throw a big chunk of money at a new

1110
00:57:49,147 --> 00:57:52,827
Speaker 3: stadium Because it would have to be a combination of

1111
00:57:52,867 --> 00:57:56,467
Speaker 3: private and public funding, right, public funding, a combination of

1112
00:57:56,507 --> 00:57:59,307
Speaker 3: rate payer money and tax payer money. So the government

1113
00:57:59,307 --> 00:58:01,547
Speaker 3: would also have to come to the party here, the

1114
00:58:01,547 --> 00:58:04,147
Speaker 3: central government that is, and say, okay, if this is

1115
00:58:04,147 --> 00:58:06,627
Speaker 3: going to be truly a national stadium that is going

1116
00:58:06,667 --> 00:58:11,627
Speaker 3: to attract big, big sporting and other events here, then

1117
00:58:11,667 --> 00:58:15,547
Speaker 3: we're in. We're in for this much. Ratepayers in Auckland

1118
00:58:16,427 --> 00:58:19,507
Speaker 3: would also have to be in the mix because it's

1119
00:58:19,547 --> 00:58:23,787
Speaker 3: their city, so their economy, their ecosystem would benefit more

1120
00:58:24,187 --> 00:58:28,507
Speaker 3: than those outside of the Auckland area. And then there's

1121
00:58:28,587 --> 00:58:31,827
Speaker 3: the the private money, and that is the big one

1122
00:58:32,667 --> 00:58:34,667
Speaker 3: that is the big one here, and there are only

1123
00:58:34,787 --> 00:58:39,827
Speaker 3: so many people who have access to the kind of

1124
00:58:39,867 --> 00:58:44,307
Speaker 3: money that is required for this. Oh, eight hundred and

1125
00:58:44,307 --> 00:58:45,987
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty one, twenty four. God, a bit time

1126
00:58:45,987 --> 00:58:47,267
Speaker 3: to talk about this. If you'd like to jump on

1127
00:58:47,667 --> 00:58:50,867
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two for your text messages. We'll keep

1128
00:58:50,907 --> 00:58:53,347
Speaker 3: an eye on lydia Coe too. I'm just trying to

1129
00:58:53,387 --> 00:58:56,107
Speaker 3: see if she's finished her round before we go to

1130
00:58:56,187 --> 00:58:58,827
Speaker 3: an AM break. I can't refresh my screen at the moment.

1131
00:58:58,827 --> 00:59:01,307
Speaker 3: For some reason, it has refreshed just in time for

1132
00:59:01,347 --> 00:59:03,867
Speaker 3: me to give you an update. Maybe lydia Co's finished

1133
00:59:03,907 --> 00:59:06,627
Speaker 3: her around. She has. She has fired a four under

1134
00:59:06,627 --> 00:59:09,747
Speaker 3: sixty eight to be thirteen under for the tournament through

1135
00:59:09,787 --> 00:59:15,267
Speaker 3: three rounds. Lilie Vou is up to seventeen under three

1136
00:59:15,347 --> 00:59:18,707
Speaker 3: under through sixteen holes today, so she's got a four

1137
00:59:19,107 --> 00:59:22,467
Speaker 3: shot jump on lydia Co. There's some very low scoring here,

1138
00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:26,507
Speaker 3: leader Lilvo at seventeen under, a couple of players at

1139
00:59:26,507 --> 00:59:29,947
Speaker 3: fifteen's and then about seven or eight at fourteen under,

1140
00:59:29,987 --> 00:59:32,467
Speaker 3: and then back to lydia Co at thirteen so very

1141
00:59:32,547 --> 00:59:37,627
Speaker 3: low scoring in this tournament. But lydia Co has fired

1142
00:59:37,667 --> 00:59:43,267
Speaker 3: a very a very credible third round of sixty eight

1143
00:59:43,307 --> 00:59:44,507
Speaker 3: to go with a sixty eight she shot in the

1144
00:59:44,507 --> 00:59:46,667
Speaker 3: first round of sixty seven and the second thirteen under

1145
00:59:46,667 --> 00:59:48,867
Speaker 3: for the tournament, so well and truly in the mix

1146
00:59:49,187 --> 00:59:52,227
Speaker 3: for the fourth round tomorrow twenty five past one. We're

1147
00:59:52,267 --> 00:59:53,907
Speaker 3: back with more after this on Weekend Sport.

1148
00:59:54,947 --> 00:59:58,867
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with Jason

1149
00:59:58,907 --> 01:00:02,947
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1151
01:00:03,627 --> 01:00:09,867
Speaker 3: They'd be holy. The texts on this plenty of feedback.

1152
01:00:10,067 --> 01:00:12,347
Speaker 3: I want to get to a few of them. We'll

1153
01:00:12,347 --> 01:00:16,187
Speaker 3: get you to some actual sport as well. In just

1154
01:00:16,227 --> 01:00:19,027
Speaker 3: a moment. Let's get through some of these comments here

1155
01:00:19,107 --> 01:00:22,147
Speaker 3: on text. Pinty, don't close Mount Spartan Eden Park because

1156
01:00:22,147 --> 01:00:25,747
Speaker 3: there are no bars, hotels, restaurants. Rezone so that there

1157
01:00:25,787 --> 01:00:29,027
Speaker 3: are bars, hotels and restaurants around those stadiums. That means

1158
01:00:29,067 --> 01:00:32,627
Speaker 3: private ens price past Yeah, just count. I don't know

1159
01:00:32,667 --> 01:00:37,907
Speaker 3: what's less likely, David that or or those in power

1160
01:00:38,347 --> 01:00:41,187
Speaker 3: committing to a new stadium. Thanks for your text, though, Afternoon,

1161
01:00:41,227 --> 01:00:44,147
Speaker 3: says Stephen. Stadiums don't return the money invested in them.

1162
01:00:44,147 --> 01:00:47,707
Speaker 3: Look at any stadium economic report. That's why the professional

1163
01:00:47,707 --> 01:00:49,427
Speaker 3: sports teams in the US get the city to pay

1164
01:00:49,427 --> 01:00:51,787
Speaker 3: for most of them, Thanks Steven. Yeah, as I say,

1165
01:00:51,827 --> 01:00:56,147
Speaker 3: would have to be public private partnership, and the sums

1166
01:00:56,187 --> 01:00:59,987
Speaker 3: inside that equation are the ones that are hardest to

1167
01:00:59,987 --> 01:01:04,387
Speaker 3: to formulate because everybody wants to give as little as possible,

1168
01:01:04,427 --> 01:01:07,947
Speaker 3: don't they. For cricket, says Chris, I love the noise

1169
01:01:07,987 --> 01:01:09,947
Speaker 3: at eden Park when a balls hit around the ground.

1170
01:01:09,987 --> 01:01:12,747
Speaker 3: It's a good atmosphere for cricket, probably more than rugby.

1171
01:01:12,787 --> 01:01:16,067
Speaker 3: I don't really care about its funny dimensions. I mean

1172
01:01:16,267 --> 01:01:18,027
Speaker 3: I watch games of cricket at eden Park. In fact,

1173
01:01:18,027 --> 01:01:20,027
Speaker 3: I watch any sport at eden Park, And because it's

1174
01:01:20,067 --> 01:01:24,107
Speaker 3: so big, it can be cavernous, can't it. Fifty thousand people,

1175
01:01:24,107 --> 01:01:26,427
Speaker 3: Even if you get twenty there, you're still not even

1176
01:01:26,467 --> 01:01:28,907
Speaker 3: half full. When was the last time we year twenty

1177
01:01:28,907 --> 01:01:31,147
Speaker 3: thousand for a cricket game? How many were there the

1178
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:35,107
Speaker 3: other night for the double head? Would there have been twenty? Maybe?

1179
01:01:35,547 --> 01:01:37,507
Speaker 3: But it's still a big ground to fill up, isn't it.

1180
01:01:40,587 --> 01:01:42,267
Speaker 3: Eden Park, says Steve, is always going to be like

1181
01:01:42,267 --> 01:01:43,827
Speaker 3: the house built with bits out of here and there.

1182
01:01:43,867 --> 01:01:46,707
Speaker 3: HeiG Aldy peggldy. I love that phrase. It's time to

1183
01:01:46,707 --> 01:01:48,987
Speaker 3: stop spending hundreds of millions putting lipstick on a peg.

1184
01:01:50,867 --> 01:01:51,147
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1185
01:01:52,067 --> 01:01:54,627
Speaker 3: See where does the money come from to upgrade eden Park?

1186
01:01:56,987 --> 01:02:00,427
Speaker 3: Because even though Auckland Council said, yeah, look we our

1187
01:02:00,427 --> 01:02:02,587
Speaker 3: preference is an upgrade of eden Park rather than a

1188
01:02:02,587 --> 01:02:07,347
Speaker 3: new stadium, they didn't commit any money to it. Neither

1189
01:02:07,387 --> 01:02:10,227
Speaker 3: have Central government. And I say David Seymour quoted the

1190
01:02:10,227 --> 01:02:12,827
Speaker 3: other day saying Wall We're not that keen. So what

1191
01:02:13,187 --> 01:02:15,947
Speaker 3: it won't happen, will it? If they need one hundred

1192
01:02:16,027 --> 01:02:17,867
Speaker 3: million to get it started and they can't get that,

1193
01:02:18,467 --> 01:02:20,427
Speaker 3: how are they going to get the five hundred and fifty,

1194
01:02:21,667 --> 01:02:24,107
Speaker 3: let alone the billion that's actually probably going to cost.

1195
01:02:25,467 --> 01:02:27,947
Speaker 3: Paul says, guys Auckland can't get five to ten thousand

1196
01:02:27,947 --> 01:02:29,907
Speaker 3: to eden Park, now, why would you want to revamp it?

1197
01:02:30,587 --> 01:02:34,787
Speaker 3: Everyone forgets we're a small population. We need a smaller stadium.

1198
01:02:35,467 --> 01:02:38,827
Speaker 3: Thank you very much indeed for your text on one

1199
01:02:38,827 --> 01:02:41,067
Speaker 3: final one here Morris says Jason. The best Auckland stadium

1200
01:02:41,067 --> 01:02:44,147
Speaker 3: by fast Mount smart. It's the right capacity, which is

1201
01:02:44,147 --> 01:02:46,067
Speaker 3: why League and Football are selling it out. It's well

1202
01:02:46,147 --> 01:02:49,627
Speaker 3: serviced by train from South Auckland easy to get to

1203
01:02:49,907 --> 01:02:53,347
Speaker 3: free car parking due to being in an industrial precinct.

1204
01:02:53,347 --> 01:02:55,547
Speaker 3: We've got in other stadiums in Auckland. North Harbour is

1205
01:02:55,547 --> 01:02:58,707
Speaker 3: the only white elephant. Yeah, I guess the only thing

1206
01:02:58,707 --> 01:03:02,707
Speaker 3: about Mount Smart is is its access to the likes

1207
01:03:02,707 --> 01:03:09,827
Speaker 3: of restaurants, bars and hotels and you know Mount Smart is.

1208
01:03:09,947 --> 01:03:13,987
Speaker 3: You know it certainly wouldn't be among the most aesthetically

1209
01:03:14,067 --> 01:03:16,387
Speaker 3: pleasing venues. But I think for the Warriors and for

1210
01:03:16,427 --> 01:03:20,307
Speaker 3: Auckland FC, it works brilliantly. I don't think Mount Smart

1211
01:03:20,347 --> 01:03:23,427
Speaker 3: pretends to be anything that it's not. It doesn't pretend

1212
01:03:23,507 --> 01:03:28,227
Speaker 3: to be a stadium that's going to attract high quality

1213
01:03:28,347 --> 01:03:32,587
Speaker 3: international sport. We played we played rugby. We're a game

1214
01:03:32,627 --> 01:03:36,587
Speaker 3: against South Africa there in twenty three, didn't we because

1215
01:03:37,387 --> 01:03:39,307
Speaker 3: Eden Park was being used for the Football World Cup.

1216
01:03:39,867 --> 01:03:42,747
Speaker 3: But there is no way you'd play rugby test at

1217
01:03:42,787 --> 01:03:48,227
Speaker 3: Mount Smartley's yet to. But Mount Smart does a very

1218
01:03:48,387 --> 01:03:54,587
Speaker 3: very good job of what it does. Hello, Bill get a.

1219
01:03:54,947 --> 01:03:55,147
Speaker 9: Hey.

1220
01:03:56,507 --> 01:03:59,667
Speaker 18: What I can understand is where's the rugby union in this?

1221
01:03:59,827 --> 01:04:02,707
Speaker 18: I mean I look at Scotland and Wales and that

1222
01:04:03,427 --> 01:04:06,267
Speaker 18: and their rugby unions on their own stadiums are all

1223
01:04:06,387 --> 01:04:11,747
Speaker 18: privately owned. Glasgow, for instance, has got about ten stadiums

1224
01:04:12,667 --> 01:04:15,587
Speaker 18: and it's hard the size of Auckland all privately owned.

1225
01:04:17,627 --> 01:04:21,547
Speaker 3: I don't think New Zealand Rugby are in any mood

1226
01:04:21,987 --> 01:04:25,627
Speaker 3: to be in the stadium ownership business, Bill if I'm honest.

1227
01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:28,267
Speaker 18: Yeah, But I mean where did all the money go

1228
01:04:28,347 --> 01:04:31,867
Speaker 18: when it was an animateur sport scot I mean Scotland

1229
01:04:31,947 --> 01:04:36,787
Speaker 18: owned theirs, the English owned theirs, the Irish demolishtairs and

1230
01:04:36,867 --> 01:04:39,907
Speaker 18: built a whole new one and they're rugby unions about

1231
01:04:39,907 --> 01:04:41,667
Speaker 18: a tenth of the size of New Zealand.

1232
01:04:42,987 --> 01:04:46,867
Speaker 3: That wasn't That wasn't complete one hundred percent investment from

1233
01:04:46,907 --> 01:04:49,987
Speaker 3: Irish Rugby though, was it, Bill Well?

1234
01:04:50,107 --> 01:04:54,587
Speaker 18: I don't know, but I know that in Scotland the

1235
01:04:54,667 --> 01:04:58,107
Speaker 18: soccer grounds that are huge, like Celtic Park and Hampton,

1236
01:04:58,467 --> 01:05:03,027
Speaker 18: they're all and eye books, they're all supplied by the

1237
01:05:03,067 --> 01:05:07,827
Speaker 18: soccer clubs. They're all privately owned and so and like

1238
01:05:07,907 --> 01:05:11,507
Speaker 18: I say, Glasgow is a third of the size of allment.

1239
01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:15,027
Speaker 3: Yeah with a great well, yeah, with a I think

1240
01:05:15,027 --> 01:05:18,027
Speaker 3: with a with a probably a bigger, bigger population. But

1241
01:05:18,187 --> 01:05:20,867
Speaker 3: I don't know the ins and outs of the Scottish model.

1242
01:05:21,307 --> 01:05:23,947
Speaker 3: I can almost say, without fear of contradiction, there is

1243
01:05:23,987 --> 01:05:28,267
Speaker 3: absolutely no way New Zealand Rugby would want to want

1244
01:05:28,307 --> 01:05:32,467
Speaker 3: to own the venues the All Blacks play. They were

1245
01:05:32,747 --> 01:05:35,427
Speaker 3: on recorders saying that they liked the Key Point proposal

1246
01:05:36,107 --> 01:05:39,627
Speaker 3: the new stadium. They liked that idea and perhaps would

1247
01:05:39,627 --> 01:05:44,667
Speaker 3: have considered being some sort of partner in the building

1248
01:05:44,707 --> 01:05:47,987
Speaker 3: of a of a Rugby precinct or a sporting precinct

1249
01:05:47,987 --> 01:05:52,627
Speaker 3: around Key Park had that been given a tick. But again,

1250
01:05:52,907 --> 01:05:55,427
Speaker 3: giving it a tick is one thing. Finding the investment

1251
01:05:55,587 --> 01:06:01,507
Speaker 3: is is another. That is the big thing here, Dave

1252
01:06:01,547 --> 01:06:04,027
Speaker 3: says Pinet. If you're starting with a blank sheet of paper,

1253
01:06:05,027 --> 01:06:08,627
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have Eden or Mount Smart. You'd have something

1254
01:06:08,667 --> 01:06:13,027
Speaker 3: in the heart of the city to bring everyone together. Yeah, Dean,

1255
01:06:13,027 --> 01:06:16,267
Speaker 3: you're right. Unfortunately we're not starting from scratch. We have

1256
01:06:16,427 --> 01:06:18,387
Speaker 3: Eden Park, we have Mount Smart and like I say,

1257
01:06:18,427 --> 01:06:22,587
Speaker 3: I think Mount Smart does a great job for the

1258
01:06:22,627 --> 01:06:26,747
Speaker 3: tenants that it services. I've been to the Warriors there,

1259
01:06:26,827 --> 01:06:31,027
Speaker 3: I've been to Auckland FC there. Great job on both fronts.

1260
01:06:31,147 --> 01:06:37,267
Speaker 3: Rectangular good capacity of twenty five twenty six thousand, not

1261
01:06:37,427 --> 01:06:40,267
Speaker 3: that hard to get to, is it? Public? Transport. It's

1262
01:06:40,267 --> 01:06:45,067
Speaker 3: serviced by the train. It's not that hard to get

1263
01:06:45,067 --> 01:06:47,387
Speaker 3: to by motor vehicle. You just got off the motorway.

1264
01:06:47,387 --> 01:06:51,547
Speaker 3: And if you're coming from the city anyway, which is

1265
01:06:51,547 --> 01:06:54,267
Speaker 3: how I normally get there. When I'm going to Mount

1266
01:06:54,267 --> 01:06:57,667
Speaker 3: Smart for football coming from the city, the CBD around

1267
01:06:57,707 --> 01:07:01,107
Speaker 3: Victoria Street where where z B is. It takes me

1268
01:07:01,187 --> 01:07:05,467
Speaker 3: about twenty minutes to get from Victoria Street in the city.

1269
01:07:05,907 --> 01:07:12,307
Speaker 3: So that's the skytower to Mount Smart. People say it's

1270
01:07:12,307 --> 01:07:14,747
Speaker 3: hard to get to. Maybe I think it probably is

1271
01:07:14,747 --> 01:07:17,787
Speaker 3: on a Friday night. When when you're trying to get

1272
01:07:17,787 --> 01:07:19,427
Speaker 3: to a Warrior's game on a Friday night, I think

1273
01:07:19,467 --> 01:07:26,227
Speaker 3: that's a different set of circumstances. But like I say,

1274
01:07:26,507 --> 01:07:29,227
Speaker 3: I don't think Mount Smart is pretending to be anything

1275
01:07:29,307 --> 01:07:33,427
Speaker 3: that it's not. I just wanted to mention Sam Ruth

1276
01:07:33,467 --> 01:07:36,507
Speaker 3: and Sam Tanner last night before we move on. They

1277
01:07:36,547 --> 01:07:42,027
Speaker 3: were running in the Muri stand meat in Melbourne. We

1278
01:07:42,067 --> 01:07:45,027
Speaker 3: spoke to Sam's dad being yesterday on the show about

1279
01:07:45,027 --> 01:07:48,387
Speaker 3: the auction for Sam shoes. Eventually they went for about

1280
01:07:48,627 --> 01:07:52,067
Speaker 3: eleven and a half grand. So Sam Ruth and Sam

1281
01:07:52,107 --> 01:07:56,987
Speaker 3: Tanner were in a stacked fifteen hundred meter field Last night,

1282
01:07:59,187 --> 01:08:04,587
Speaker 3: Sam Ruth set another world record for a fifteen year old.

1283
01:08:04,947 --> 01:08:08,787
Speaker 3: He ran a PBE of three minutes forty point one

1284
01:08:08,827 --> 01:08:11,987
Speaker 3: to zero. He was ranked twelveth of fourteen runners in

1285
01:08:12,027 --> 01:08:15,387
Speaker 3: the field, and he was last at one stage got

1286
01:08:15,467 --> 01:08:19,387
Speaker 3: up to seventh. He beat a runner who's run three

1287
01:08:19,387 --> 01:08:23,307
Speaker 3: point fifty one for the mile and a runner who's

1288
01:08:23,347 --> 01:08:28,227
Speaker 3: run three thirty four over fifteen hundred meters, And in

1289
01:08:28,267 --> 01:08:30,547
Speaker 3: a race that no one ran their best times, he

1290
01:08:30,627 --> 01:08:35,147
Speaker 3: lowered his best by another one point one three seconds,

1291
01:08:35,467 --> 01:08:37,467
Speaker 3: and then if you extrapolate that out to the mile,

1292
01:08:38,347 --> 01:08:41,627
Speaker 3: it equates to a three minute fifty seven mile, which

1293
01:08:41,667 --> 01:08:45,667
Speaker 3: is quicker than the sub four he ran a week ago.

1294
01:08:46,027 --> 01:08:55,227
Speaker 3: So he's obviously continuing on this upward trajectory. Robert says,

1295
01:08:55,267 --> 01:08:57,907
Speaker 3: you're dreaming about taking the motorway. It's a car park

1296
01:08:57,947 --> 01:09:03,867
Speaker 3: these days. I'm only going from my own experience on this. Robert,

1297
01:09:04,347 --> 01:09:07,467
Speaker 3: like I say, I often come up to Auckland for

1298
01:09:07,547 --> 01:09:11,587
Speaker 3: Auckland FC games. I'll leave work when i finish here

1299
01:09:11,627 --> 01:09:15,987
Speaker 3: at three and I'm at Mount Smart by three twenty

1300
01:09:16,027 --> 01:09:20,067
Speaker 3: three twenty five, even in traffic, and yeah, the motor

1301
01:09:20,107 --> 01:09:23,267
Speaker 3: ways it's a bit of a grind. Isn't it. But

1302
01:09:23,627 --> 01:09:29,147
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that's that's that's my experience, very.

1303
01:09:29,067 --> 01:09:36,067
Speaker 9: High good a how are you good? These stadiums, and

1304
01:09:36,187 --> 01:09:39,827
Speaker 9: that it should not go on to rate payers.

1305
01:09:39,867 --> 01:09:40,387
Speaker 18: None of it.

1306
01:09:42,147 --> 01:09:45,867
Speaker 9: Money should be coming out of the ratepayers pockets. Councils

1307
01:09:45,907 --> 01:09:51,347
Speaker 9: are there for infrastructure only. And these stadiums you've got.

1308
01:09:51,467 --> 01:09:56,347
Speaker 21: Big corporate and that, and you've got Eddy Dance and

1309
01:09:56,427 --> 01:09:59,307
Speaker 21: all these people making money out of it the wrong

1310
01:09:59,587 --> 01:10:04,627
Speaker 21: you know, these other players are making huge money and

1311
01:10:04,747 --> 01:10:09,227
Speaker 21: the rate payer is so obsidizing the indy Barry.

1312
01:10:09,307 --> 01:10:13,147
Speaker 3: Do you agree, though, that the Auckland economy also benefits

1313
01:10:13,187 --> 01:10:15,387
Speaker 3: from having events at big venues?

1314
01:10:16,867 --> 01:10:20,187
Speaker 21: It may do. I don't believe the figures that are

1315
01:10:20,267 --> 01:10:26,587
Speaker 21: being quoted, though. I would be very suspicious of the

1316
01:10:26,627 --> 01:10:30,987
Speaker 21: figures quoted. I would think maybe a quarter of what

1317
01:10:31,227 --> 01:10:34,667
Speaker 21: is quoted. It's easy to pluck a figure out of

1318
01:10:34,667 --> 01:10:36,707
Speaker 21: the sky.

1319
01:10:38,067 --> 01:10:40,027
Speaker 3: I think we can agree, though, can't we that Let's

1320
01:10:40,027 --> 01:10:42,467
Speaker 3: say there's an all blacks test, a big all blacks test,

1321
01:10:43,067 --> 01:10:47,947
Speaker 3: that it brings people into a city and therefore adds

1322
01:10:48,347 --> 01:10:53,987
Speaker 3: value to retail, hospitality, accommodation and such like. Look, I'm

1323
01:10:53,987 --> 01:10:55,987
Speaker 3: not saying that you're right or wrong. I just think

1324
01:10:56,027 --> 01:10:59,547
Speaker 3: there is a case. There is a case that a

1325
01:10:59,627 --> 01:11:03,067
Speaker 3: region that benefits from having events in their city should

1326
01:11:03,067 --> 01:11:07,227
Speaker 3: perhaps subsidize venues to hold those events.

1327
01:11:07,267 --> 01:11:11,187
Speaker 21: Okay, I've put it to you that for everyone who

1328
01:11:11,307 --> 01:11:16,187
Speaker 21: goes to those games, it interrupts someone else's life who

1329
01:11:16,387 --> 01:11:23,827
Speaker 21: isn't into sport. Sport plays zero in my life, zero,

1330
01:11:23,987 --> 01:11:28,747
Speaker 21: because I am busy doing other things, active things, and

1331
01:11:29,547 --> 01:11:34,347
Speaker 21: quite frankly, I look at the big players, the Adidas

1332
01:11:34,627 --> 01:11:38,627
Speaker 21: and Nikes and all that, and the rugby unions and

1333
01:11:38,707 --> 01:11:41,947
Speaker 21: all that, and quite frankly, they should be standing on

1334
01:11:41,987 --> 01:11:43,107
Speaker 21: their own two feet.

1335
01:11:43,987 --> 01:11:47,307
Speaker 3: How does a person coming to Walkland or wherever it

1336
01:11:47,427 --> 01:11:49,627
Speaker 3: is you are, Barry, to watch your game of rugby

1337
01:11:49,987 --> 01:11:56,147
Speaker 3: interrupt your life? Well, traffic, I think, look, Barry, you

1338
01:11:56,147 --> 01:11:58,187
Speaker 3: know how bad allcand traffic is anyway.

1339
01:11:59,147 --> 01:12:04,467
Speaker 21: Traffic's one thing for traffic, motor vehicles, all sorts of congestions,

1340
01:12:05,227 --> 01:12:08,627
Speaker 21: and I think you get a congestion charge and that

1341
01:12:08,827 --> 01:12:11,947
Speaker 21: sort of thing, you know, the noise factor.

1342
01:12:12,587 --> 01:12:17,187
Speaker 3: Oh very sorry. I think those things are there anyway.

1343
01:12:17,587 --> 01:12:21,907
Speaker 3: And look, I get what you're saying, and not everybody's

1344
01:12:21,907 --> 01:12:23,627
Speaker 3: a fan of sport. It's great to have you listening.

1345
01:12:23,787 --> 01:12:28,707
Speaker 3: To Weekend Sport. But I think most people would say

1346
01:12:29,107 --> 01:12:33,267
Speaker 3: that visitors to your region are a good thing. Otherwise,

1347
01:12:33,307 --> 01:12:36,467
Speaker 3: why would counsels up and down the country be spending

1348
01:12:36,507 --> 01:12:40,787
Speaker 3: money on promoting themselves twenty to two or take a break,

1349
01:12:40,827 --> 01:12:42,787
Speaker 3: comeback chat to James mcconey.

1350
01:12:42,867 --> 01:12:46,947
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions after Turf Weekend Sport with Jason Hyne

1351
01:12:47,027 --> 01:12:53,067
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home Builder News.

1352
01:12:52,827 --> 01:12:55,427
Speaker 3: Sixteen away from two after two o'clock. Tana Umang, a

1353
01:12:55,507 --> 01:12:58,347
Speaker 3: coach of Morea Pacifica, joins us off the back of

1354
01:12:58,907 --> 01:13:02,707
Speaker 3: I would say the best victory in the short history

1355
01:13:02,747 --> 01:13:05,427
Speaker 3: of that franchise is always on a Sunday afternoon. Though,

1356
01:13:05,627 --> 01:13:08,147
Speaker 3: great pleasure to welcome James mconey to the show.

1357
01:13:08,507 --> 01:13:11,907
Speaker 6: Hello Mateka Poney, how's it going very good?

1358
01:13:11,907 --> 01:13:15,627
Speaker 3: We're having some good, robust conversations this afternoon. I'm not

1359
01:13:15,667 --> 01:13:19,747
Speaker 3: sure whether you've been taking it all in about Stadia etc.

1360
01:13:21,267 --> 01:13:25,667
Speaker 6: Oh stadium chat years. Mike Wayne is probably on the

1361
01:13:25,707 --> 01:13:29,227
Speaker 6: same page as myself. Not that not just because I

1362
01:13:29,267 --> 01:13:31,547
Speaker 6: do work for him at the ACC. But you know,

1363
01:13:31,587 --> 01:13:34,747
Speaker 6: the wind Yard quarter proposal was the best proposal. They

1364
01:13:34,827 --> 01:13:40,227
Speaker 6: turfed that out. It was the most sensible, pragmatic, financially viable,

1365
01:13:40,747 --> 01:13:45,147
Speaker 6: also had the support of international concert promoters, so there

1366
01:13:45,187 --> 01:13:47,267
Speaker 6: was a lot to like about it. But somehow, I

1367
01:13:47,267 --> 01:13:50,507
Speaker 6: don't know. I just think egos and maybe even just

1368
01:13:50,547 --> 01:13:54,267
Speaker 6: sort of thoughts of delusions of grandeur getting in the

1369
01:13:54,307 --> 01:13:57,187
Speaker 6: way because that stadium could have been built, and I

1370
01:13:57,227 --> 01:13:59,187
Speaker 6: think it could have been done, and now we may

1371
01:13:59,227 --> 01:13:59,547
Speaker 6: never know.

1372
01:14:00,187 --> 01:14:02,467
Speaker 3: Yeah, inertia, I think that's what we've got here. I

1373
01:14:02,507 --> 01:14:04,147
Speaker 3: think that's the right word. It might not be, but

1374
01:14:04,187 --> 01:14:08,187
Speaker 3: I think we've got inertia. We're not going anywhere. Maa Pacifica,

1375
01:14:08,307 --> 01:14:10,387
Speaker 3: Maana Pacifica. Last night? Did you enjoy that?

1376
01:14:11,627 --> 01:14:13,987
Speaker 6: I love that? And in fact, the way more A

1377
01:14:14,027 --> 01:14:16,667
Speaker 6: Pacifica played, even Rob Penny admitted at the head he

1378
01:14:16,707 --> 01:14:19,187
Speaker 6: said they were just o thought out, you know, sort

1379
01:14:19,187 --> 01:14:24,467
Speaker 6: of the tactics are outplayed. They kicked well and did

1380
01:14:24,507 --> 01:14:26,947
Speaker 6: all these things where I think the Crusaders went, hey,

1381
01:14:27,107 --> 01:14:29,347
Speaker 6: that's what we used to do, which has put pressure

1382
01:14:29,667 --> 01:14:31,987
Speaker 6: on teams in their own half, and instead it was

1383
01:14:32,027 --> 01:14:36,667
Speaker 6: one of Pacifica with you know, six tries all converted,

1384
01:14:36,907 --> 01:14:41,147
Speaker 6: and that's just that's hard to come back from. And

1385
01:14:41,387 --> 01:14:44,627
Speaker 6: I mean, Killer Green is just an absolute revelation at

1386
01:14:44,627 --> 01:14:48,227
Speaker 6: first five, so that that has unlocked a lot of

1387
01:14:47,787 --> 01:14:51,587
Speaker 6: the potential. But what Tana and his team have done

1388
01:14:51,627 --> 01:14:56,347
Speaker 6: as coaching team is just managed to give them that belief.

1389
01:14:56,467 --> 01:14:58,427
Speaker 6: And I think Artie Savia is a captain, is a

1390
01:14:58,467 --> 01:14:59,067
Speaker 6: big part of it.

1391
01:14:59,947 --> 01:15:03,827
Speaker 3: Huge, huge, And I think also when the Crusaders got

1392
01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:06,027
Speaker 3: back to within I think it was nine points and

1393
01:15:06,067 --> 01:15:08,787
Speaker 3: code Taylor's coming off the bench and to mighty Williams

1394
01:15:09,067 --> 01:15:10,547
Speaker 3: is coming off the bench. A couple of All Blacks

1395
01:15:10,547 --> 01:15:12,707
Speaker 3: front rowers. You thought, right, I can see what's going

1396
01:15:12,747 --> 01:15:14,947
Speaker 3: to happen here. I've seen this one before. My ONEA

1397
01:15:14,987 --> 01:15:17,267
Speaker 3: pacifica are going to get run over by a Crusader

1398
01:15:17,307 --> 01:15:20,347
Speaker 3: side that just mentled the Blues a week ago. I

1399
01:15:20,427 --> 01:15:22,987
Speaker 3: just thought the way that they they you know, showed

1400
01:15:23,107 --> 01:15:26,107
Speaker 3: utter resilience to then score a couple more tries of

1401
01:15:26,147 --> 01:15:30,107
Speaker 3: their own and really secure the match was really impressive

1402
01:15:30,147 --> 01:15:30,347
Speaker 3: to me.

1403
01:15:31,307 --> 01:15:34,147
Speaker 6: And there were a couple of moments where you're just going, okay,

1404
01:15:34,227 --> 01:15:37,907
Speaker 6: that is something special. And I think it was peppersona

1405
01:15:37,987 --> 01:15:41,587
Speaker 6: Patafilo who just shrugged off Ethan Blackadder. This is you know,

1406
01:15:41,867 --> 01:15:45,067
Speaker 6: seasoned all black Ethan Blackadder, and then he also thinks

1407
01:15:45,067 --> 01:15:48,907
Speaker 6: scored under the posts under some pressure. And I mean

1408
01:15:48,947 --> 01:15:51,747
Speaker 6: he's been in the Crusaders system and you know, I'm

1409
01:15:51,787 --> 01:15:54,067
Speaker 6: not saying he got chewed up and spat out, but

1410
01:15:54,347 --> 01:15:57,347
Speaker 6: you know he's probably one of those guys wondering where

1411
01:15:57,347 --> 01:16:00,947
Speaker 6: his next stop was going to be. And now you

1412
01:16:00,987 --> 01:16:04,467
Speaker 6: look at him just looking like an absolute world better

1413
01:16:04,547 --> 01:16:05,587
Speaker 6: at Wina PACIFICA.

1414
01:16:05,707 --> 01:16:06,867
Speaker 5: So they do.

1415
01:16:08,107 --> 01:16:11,307
Speaker 6: I think they developed players really well. It was always

1416
01:16:11,347 --> 01:16:13,827
Speaker 6: going to be a mainland cheese. Good things take time,

1417
01:16:14,627 --> 01:16:18,307
Speaker 6: so the scenario. But then with miracle fire Langey, as

1418
01:16:18,307 --> 01:16:20,787
Speaker 6: we've talked about, he will be the best blindside flanker

1419
01:16:20,907 --> 01:16:24,147
Speaker 6: almost is the best blindside flanker in the world. And

1420
01:16:24,227 --> 01:16:28,147
Speaker 6: I'm sure the I'm sure he's going a Rugby would

1421
01:16:28,187 --> 01:16:30,507
Speaker 6: have been wondering how do we actually get him over?

1422
01:16:30,627 --> 01:16:34,147
Speaker 6: But I think it's too late that he will be

1423
01:16:34,667 --> 01:16:38,707
Speaker 6: someone in Superstar and let's hope he stays in Super

1424
01:16:38,747 --> 01:16:39,547
Speaker 6: Rugby as well.

1425
01:16:40,347 --> 01:16:44,387
Speaker 3: It would take a miracle to get him across James, wouldn't.

1426
01:16:44,067 --> 01:16:45,787
Speaker 6: It It would it would.

1427
01:16:45,827 --> 01:16:48,747
Speaker 3: That's terrible. Sorry, that's just a pall.

1428
01:16:50,547 --> 01:16:53,747
Speaker 6: See they've done him. So that's why I always think,

1429
01:16:53,867 --> 01:16:56,187
Speaker 6: you know, like their eyes must light up, and I mean,

1430
01:16:56,507 --> 01:16:59,267
Speaker 6: we know that our Cura and talboyful out will qualify

1431
01:16:59,667 --> 01:17:01,627
Speaker 6: for the All Blacks next year. Wants to play in

1432
01:17:01,627 --> 01:17:04,787
Speaker 6: the Black Jersey. But Miracle Fire Langy was born in somewhere,

1433
01:17:04,947 --> 01:17:07,307
Speaker 6: so this is the whole thing that's like and it's

1434
01:17:07,387 --> 01:17:11,427
Speaker 6: played for money or samoa. I mean, i'd say hands off.

1435
01:17:11,507 --> 01:17:15,427
Speaker 6: Just let's you know, let them cook, let them be amazing.

1436
01:17:15,147 --> 01:17:18,387
Speaker 3: And absolutely absolutely and let let.

1437
01:17:18,267 --> 01:17:22,347
Speaker 6: The Pacific Nations actually come up with it, because can

1438
01:17:22,387 --> 01:17:24,307
Speaker 6: we just be honest here? They were so close one

1439
01:17:24,347 --> 01:17:27,867
Speaker 6: pass away from beating England in that World Cup last year,

1440
01:17:27,947 --> 01:17:31,667
Speaker 6: so you know they're not far from being genuine giant

1441
01:17:31,747 --> 01:17:33,147
Speaker 6: killers at the highest level.

1442
01:17:33,507 --> 01:17:37,147
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just enjoy miracle failing and a lot of

1443
01:17:37,187 --> 01:17:39,667
Speaker 3: the others as well while they are playing Super rugby.

1444
01:17:39,747 --> 01:17:42,627
Speaker 3: It's it's terrific a couple of other sporting matters to

1445
01:17:42,827 --> 01:17:46,467
Speaker 3: kick around. Mark Chapman got one hundred yesterday for the

1446
01:17:46,467 --> 01:17:49,627
Speaker 3: black Caps. Muhammad A Bass I'm not sure many people

1447
01:17:49,707 --> 01:17:53,867
Speaker 3: knew about him before yesterday. Quickest ever a half century

1448
01:17:54,067 --> 01:17:56,027
Speaker 3: by a debiton for New Zealm. He's got a bit

1449
01:17:56,027 --> 01:17:56,787
Speaker 3: about him, this kid.

1450
01:17:57,627 --> 01:17:59,907
Speaker 6: He does what a not and it's kind of nice

1451
01:18:00,347 --> 01:18:03,347
Speaker 6: bit of symmetry and poetry really playing in the nation

1452
01:18:03,547 --> 01:18:06,947
Speaker 6: of his birth, Pakistan, and so having Muhammed Bus there

1453
01:18:07,387 --> 01:18:09,707
Speaker 6: really just shows the sort of the changing face of

1454
01:18:09,747 --> 01:18:13,147
Speaker 6: New Zealand sport and New Zealand cricketers has obviously shown

1455
01:18:13,667 --> 01:18:16,867
Speaker 6: a little bit bit of that from going back a

1456
01:18:16,867 --> 01:18:20,507
Speaker 6: couple of decades now, but he was coached by d

1457
01:18:20,627 --> 01:18:23,387
Speaker 6: pet Pattel up in Auckland and Depak is one of

1458
01:18:23,427 --> 01:18:25,987
Speaker 6: those guys. He just does amazing work and you know,

1459
01:18:26,107 --> 01:18:29,267
Speaker 6: sort of unsung hero really and such a great servant.

1460
01:18:29,267 --> 01:18:32,707
Speaker 6: He still loves the game so much, will help anybody.

1461
01:18:33,627 --> 01:18:37,907
Speaker 6: Just a wonderful human being. And MUHAMMEDA Bus has sort

1462
01:18:37,947 --> 01:18:41,067
Speaker 6: of down his way into this New Zealand team via

1463
01:18:41,147 --> 01:18:45,227
Speaker 6: Wellington and really that knock was you know, batting at

1464
01:18:45,227 --> 01:18:48,187
Speaker 6: two hundred strike great, was fantastic. So we look forward

1465
01:18:48,227 --> 01:18:50,507
Speaker 6: to seeing what he can do. But Mark Chapman is

1466
01:18:50,707 --> 01:18:52,987
Speaker 6: the interesting case is and he's played for Hong Kong.

1467
01:18:53,507 --> 01:18:57,147
Speaker 6: He's he was their best player and then said well,

1468
01:18:57,187 --> 01:18:59,267
Speaker 6: I'm going to give him his Zeland the crack. And

1469
01:18:59,787 --> 01:19:02,347
Speaker 6: he's not a huge man. You would have met him,

1470
01:19:02,667 --> 01:19:06,987
Speaker 6: Piney would have towered over him. And he's uch player,

1471
01:19:07,267 --> 01:19:11,827
Speaker 6: and yet he hit six six's in this century. Yesterday

1472
01:19:11,827 --> 01:19:16,187
Speaker 6: it was just Lance Kim stats And that's the thing.

1473
01:19:16,227 --> 01:19:18,747
Speaker 6: That's just a changing game and the way that we play.

1474
01:19:19,227 --> 01:19:21,627
Speaker 6: And I like the fact that someone like Mark Chapmanton

1475
01:19:22,307 --> 01:19:24,987
Speaker 6: can still make it through all the sort of like

1476
01:19:25,027 --> 01:19:26,187
Speaker 6: the gym rats if you like.

1477
01:19:26,867 --> 01:19:30,267
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's a good bat. He strikes it over one

1478
01:19:30,347 --> 01:19:33,707
Speaker 3: hundred in one day internationals. He's now played a decent

1479
01:19:33,787 --> 01:19:37,147
Speaker 3: sample size of thirty, so he's battered I think twenty

1480
01:19:37,147 --> 01:19:40,787
Speaker 3: five twenty six times, striking over one hundred and one day.

1481
01:19:40,987 --> 01:19:42,867
Speaker 3: He seems like he's the kind of guy who always

1482
01:19:43,107 --> 01:19:46,667
Speaker 3: gets dropped when Caine comes back. I feel like he's

1483
01:19:46,707 --> 01:19:47,507
Speaker 3: worth more than that.

1484
01:19:47,507 --> 01:19:51,147
Speaker 6: Now then, so so it will just remain to be seen.

1485
01:19:51,307 --> 01:19:54,707
Speaker 6: Like once the space, I think Chapman's could make it

1486
01:19:55,067 --> 01:19:57,787
Speaker 6: in the Test team. I mean, what's happened with Ratchen

1487
01:19:57,867 --> 01:20:00,427
Speaker 6: Ravender has been amazing. Of course he's a young talent.

1488
01:20:01,227 --> 01:20:03,987
Speaker 6: Chapman's been around, but I'd definitely like to see what

1489
01:20:04,027 --> 01:20:08,027
Speaker 6: he could do at Test level as well. Yeah, No,

1490
01:20:08,067 --> 01:20:10,027
Speaker 6: it was, it was, it was. Actually it's been a

1491
01:20:10,067 --> 01:20:14,107
Speaker 6: really good extended summer of cricket and and we've we've

1492
01:20:14,107 --> 01:20:17,547
Speaker 6: found you know, we've found another star in the bus now.

1493
01:20:17,667 --> 01:20:20,147
Speaker 3: The last time we spoke a week ago, it was

1494
01:20:20,187 --> 01:20:22,667
Speaker 3: the day before the All Whites were playing New Caledonia.

1495
01:20:22,707 --> 01:20:25,347
Speaker 3: We were both supremely confident that they woul gett the

1496
01:20:25,387 --> 01:20:28,267
Speaker 3: job done. They did eventually. Did you have any nervous

1497
01:20:28,267 --> 01:20:29,507
Speaker 3: moments during that game.

1498
01:20:29,347 --> 01:20:32,387
Speaker 6: Though, well, they had a shocking first after the Navy

1499
01:20:32,467 --> 01:20:32,907
Speaker 6: or Whites.

1500
01:20:35,027 --> 01:20:35,427
Speaker 5: It was.

1501
01:20:35,467 --> 01:20:38,427
Speaker 6: It was horrible and I was actually watching it with

1502
01:20:38,507 --> 01:20:40,467
Speaker 6: Ricky Herbert. Sorry to name drop, but I'm sure you

1503
01:20:40,467 --> 01:20:40,947
Speaker 6: won't mind.

1504
01:20:41,187 --> 01:20:41,907
Speaker 3: It's a good one.

1505
01:20:42,507 --> 01:20:44,987
Speaker 6: We were having a debate on who, which which World

1506
01:20:44,987 --> 01:20:48,147
Speaker 6: Cup team was the best, and I think this one

1507
01:20:48,467 --> 01:20:51,947
Speaker 6: would be the most talented. But currently it's just hard

1508
01:20:51,947 --> 01:20:54,107
Speaker 6: to say. Really they need to go and do something

1509
01:20:54,547 --> 01:20:57,187
Speaker 6: next year. But I've got all the all the talent

1510
01:20:57,267 --> 01:21:01,107
Speaker 6: and potential. I think a couple of things I really liked,

1511
01:21:01,107 --> 01:21:06,907
Speaker 6: which was a Costa Barbarossi's pretty much exercising the dmans

1512
01:21:06,947 --> 01:21:10,347
Speaker 6: of losing the Costa Rica a few years ago. He

1513
01:21:10,347 --> 01:21:13,827
Speaker 6: said it still haunted him every night. He was concerning Piney.

1514
01:21:15,547 --> 01:21:18,987
Speaker 6: We've all got moments fight there though in our careers.

1515
01:21:19,067 --> 01:21:22,907
Speaker 6: And then and then the other thing is someone like

1516
01:21:22,987 --> 01:21:26,467
Speaker 6: Eli just now speaking of you know, he's got his

1517
01:21:26,667 --> 01:21:30,467
Speaker 6: mixed race kid Chinese mum. He weighs sixty five kgs.

1518
01:21:31,587 --> 01:21:33,707
Speaker 6: He you know, sometimes you think, oh, you're going to

1519
01:21:33,747 --> 01:21:36,747
Speaker 6: be okay out there, and of course he's absolutely fine,

1520
01:21:36,787 --> 01:21:41,027
Speaker 6: scored a beautiful goal. He's he's one of those guys

1521
01:21:41,067 --> 01:21:43,187
Speaker 6: who's just a little bit of the X factor plays

1522
01:21:43,227 --> 01:21:46,987
Speaker 6: in Austria currently and I think another year was perfect

1523
01:21:46,987 --> 01:21:49,947
Speaker 6: for those guys of Eli's generation. We need to give

1524
01:21:49,987 --> 01:21:52,667
Speaker 6: them another year. We need another year to find Stubleetsing

1525
01:21:53,347 --> 01:21:55,827
Speaker 6: a better club, perhaps so that he can realize his

1526
01:21:55,867 --> 01:21:59,347
Speaker 6: full potential. Because the beauty of qualifying this early and

1527
01:21:59,387 --> 01:22:01,187
Speaker 6: we've done it with only a few other nations I

1528
01:22:01,227 --> 01:22:04,507
Speaker 6: think Japan and Iran. Obviously the host in Argentina is

1529
01:22:04,547 --> 01:22:07,467
Speaker 6: the defending chancellor and it just gives us time to

1530
01:22:07,467 --> 01:22:10,067
Speaker 6: plan piny and that's that's invaluable.

1531
01:22:09,907 --> 01:22:12,467
Speaker 3: Absolutely right. Look, you wouldn't believe the stuff that I

1532
01:22:12,467 --> 01:22:14,787
Speaker 3: think about every night that keeps me awake, James, but

1533
01:22:14,907 --> 01:22:17,227
Speaker 3: talking to you on a Sunday is not one of them.

1534
01:22:17,267 --> 01:22:20,107
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, mate, Thanks for joining us, James mcgoney,

1535
01:22:20,267 --> 01:22:22,307
Speaker 3: big part of our Sunday seven to two news talks.

1536
01:22:22,307 --> 01:22:24,787
Speaker 3: He'd be news talks had been weekend Sport. What are

1537
01:22:24,867 --> 01:22:26,867
Speaker 3: we three and a half away from two after two?

1538
01:22:27,027 --> 01:22:30,987
Speaker 3: Tana Umanga wa a win from Mowana Pacifica last night

1539
01:22:31,147 --> 01:22:35,147
Speaker 3: the most significant I think of their short life, going

1540
01:22:35,147 --> 01:22:39,067
Speaker 3: down to christ Church and beating the Crusaders who were

1541
01:22:39,067 --> 01:22:41,987
Speaker 3: in a pretty good run of form. Weren't they beating

1542
01:22:42,027 --> 01:22:45,067
Speaker 3: the Blues comfortably at Eden part just seven nights before.

1543
01:22:45,547 --> 01:22:48,387
Speaker 3: Tanah Umanga, coach of Moana Pacifica after.

1544
01:22:48,107 --> 01:22:52,787
Speaker 1: Two the only place to discuss the biggest fours issues

1545
01:22:52,907 --> 01:22:54,547
Speaker 1: on and after fields.

1546
01:22:55,067 --> 01:22:58,507
Speaker 2: It's all on We James Sport with Jason Taine on

1547
01:22:58,547 --> 01:23:01,667
Speaker 2: your home of sports New Talk.

1548
01:23:03,387 --> 01:23:05,547
Speaker 3: Two o seven. Welcome into the show. Another hour of

1549
01:23:05,587 --> 01:23:07,867
Speaker 3: this and then to be average takes the reins. We

1550
01:23:07,907 --> 01:23:10,187
Speaker 3: can collect a Sunday edition. Before we get to him.

1551
01:23:10,267 --> 01:23:13,987
Speaker 3: Tana Umonga standing by the chattist coach of Minor Pacifica.

1552
01:23:14,147 --> 01:23:16,347
Speaker 3: He must be so proud of what his team did

1553
01:23:16,427 --> 01:23:21,747
Speaker 3: last night, finally managing I think, to blend the wonderful

1554
01:23:21,867 --> 01:23:24,467
Speaker 3: pacifica style of rugby that would come to know and

1555
01:23:24,507 --> 01:23:28,467
Speaker 3: love from this team with a steely determination, a structure

1556
01:23:28,827 --> 01:23:32,267
Speaker 3: and a resilience that allowed them to fend off a

1557
01:23:32,387 --> 01:23:35,867
Speaker 3: very very very good team in the Crusaders tana Umunger.

1558
01:23:35,947 --> 01:23:39,507
Speaker 3: Shortly and also this hour. The Ocean Race used to

1559
01:23:39,507 --> 01:23:42,827
Speaker 3: be called the Whitbread Round the World Race, the Volvo

1560
01:23:42,827 --> 01:23:45,827
Speaker 3: Ocean Race. It's coming back to Auckland in twenty twenty

1561
01:23:45,827 --> 01:23:49,067
Speaker 3: seven and there'll be a key week taking part. Conrad

1562
01:23:49,227 --> 01:23:53,187
Speaker 3: Coleman is the man. He's assembling a team to take

1563
01:23:53,227 --> 01:23:55,067
Speaker 3: on that challenge. He's going to join us in studio

1564
01:23:55,547 --> 01:23:57,907
Speaker 3: to tell us a little bit about that. Other bits

1565
01:23:57,907 --> 01:23:59,907
Speaker 3: and pieces around, some live sports and plankets sheild to

1566
01:23:59,947 --> 01:24:01,547
Speaker 3: keep an eye on, and other things too. And our

1567
01:24:01,547 --> 01:24:05,187
Speaker 3: lines of communication remain well and truly open of course.

1568
01:24:05,787 --> 01:24:07,787
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty if you want to pick

1569
01:24:07,867 --> 01:24:10,307
Speaker 3: up on anything, yeah, nine two ninety two. If you

1570
01:24:10,307 --> 01:24:14,467
Speaker 3: would prefer to correspond via text, eight past two, as

1571
01:24:14,467 --> 01:24:16,787
Speaker 3: we always do just after the two o'clock news on

1572
01:24:16,867 --> 01:24:18,747
Speaker 3: weekend Sport, we like to bring you up to date

1573
01:24:18,787 --> 01:24:22,947
Speaker 3: with everything, well not everything, but a few things that

1574
01:24:23,027 --> 01:24:26,147
Speaker 3: you may have missed in case you missed it. We

1575
01:24:26,227 --> 01:24:30,667
Speaker 3: start in Hong Kong for the iconic Hong Kong Sevens,

1576
01:24:31,427 --> 01:24:34,827
Speaker 3: and our blackbern and Sevens continue their strong run ninety

1577
01:24:34,867 --> 01:24:37,107
Speaker 3: seconds to play just under for New Zealand on their

1578
01:24:37,107 --> 01:24:39,347
Speaker 3: way to a semi final, and Machina Pause on your

1579
01:24:39,347 --> 01:24:42,187
Speaker 3: way to another try slicing right through the heart of

1580
01:24:42,227 --> 01:24:43,347
Speaker 3: the Brazilian defense.

1581
01:24:44,867 --> 01:24:46,427
Speaker 14: Maina Paul adds her.

1582
01:24:46,427 --> 01:24:48,627
Speaker 11: Name to the scoresheet in this one in New Zealand

1583
01:24:48,707 --> 01:24:49,787
Speaker 11: going through to the last four.

1584
01:24:50,027 --> 01:24:52,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, Blackburn Sevens continue through to the semis, but the

1585
01:24:52,867 --> 01:24:55,707
Speaker 3: All Black Sevens will have to settle for fighting it

1586
01:24:55,747 --> 01:24:56,987
Speaker 3: out for the minor places.

1587
01:24:57,027 --> 01:24:59,467
Speaker 22: New Zealand look for the steal, look for the turnover.

1588
01:24:59,587 --> 01:25:01,107
Speaker 3: No, they get penalized.

1589
01:25:01,147 --> 01:25:04,787
Speaker 22: That sign Matters doesn't get what he came for and

1590
01:25:04,907 --> 01:25:10,387
Speaker 22: the man who's kicks dream in this quarterfinal, Enamo Artso

1591
01:25:11,267 --> 01:25:14,067
Speaker 22: gets it off the field and only Timo He's got

1592
01:25:14,187 --> 01:25:18,427
Speaker 22: a dance on the biggest. France had ended New Zealand's.

1593
01:25:18,067 --> 01:25:21,227
Speaker 3: Run here in Hong Kong, close to home. The Wellington

1594
01:25:21,307 --> 01:25:25,387
Speaker 3: Phoenix close to victory yesterday in Wellington, but they'll be

1595
01:25:25,467 --> 01:25:28,347
Speaker 3: kicking themselves. It's still time to play. Plenty of at

1596
01:25:28,387 --> 01:25:33,267
Speaker 3: Fort Western Sydney. Millenna bates you want to go aline

1597
01:25:33,347 --> 01:25:39,627
Speaker 3: littlest millenovits he's drilled at top corner and we'll level

1598
01:25:39,667 --> 01:25:42,667
Speaker 3: again at Toutore, conceding late to have to settle for

1599
01:25:42,747 --> 01:25:46,787
Speaker 3: that drawer against Western Sydney and Super Rugby, the Reds

1600
01:25:47,267 --> 01:25:49,867
Speaker 3: have gone top with a twenty eight to twenty four

1601
01:25:49,947 --> 01:25:52,707
Speaker 3: went over the Force, shoulders up Nastes in the middle.

1602
01:25:53,907 --> 01:25:56,267
Speaker 3: Looky for the Gowey here can't he now?

1603
01:25:56,427 --> 01:26:03,467
Speaker 14: To Victa Vgona, it's his name come and the Reds.

1604
01:26:04,107 --> 01:26:07,307
Speaker 3: Retain the league. And to the n Rella big upset

1605
01:26:07,467 --> 01:26:11,107
Speaker 3: and Illawara the Dragons toppling the Melbourne Storm.

1606
01:26:13,307 --> 01:26:18,227
Speaker 20: A little little Jacob level catches.

1607
01:26:17,867 --> 01:26:21,707
Speaker 14: Them unaware out of Dunny hat off the fix with

1608
01:26:22,067 --> 01:26:22,907
Speaker 14: great effects.

1609
01:26:23,387 --> 01:26:26,107
Speaker 22: Jacob little Sense and George Lawara.

1610
01:26:26,027 --> 01:26:28,747
Speaker 3: To the Lee fourteen eighth. They won that which paved

1611
01:26:28,827 --> 01:26:32,347
Speaker 3: the way for the undefeated Bulldogs to take top spot

1612
01:26:32,827 --> 01:26:35,987
Speaker 3: with a twenty points to six win over Cronulla Sherry.

1613
01:26:36,507 --> 01:26:43,187
Speaker 5: The lad had a cut through Tenascus Channibray play flex.

1614
01:26:44,667 --> 01:26:46,267
Speaker 14: How strong have they been?

1615
01:26:47,907 --> 01:26:51,467
Speaker 6: Channery bestown Bulldot's Michael are the real ships?

1616
01:26:52,027 --> 01:26:56,947
Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fails. Weekend

1617
01:26:57,067 --> 01:26:59,827
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason m Newstalk.

1618
01:26:59,667 --> 01:27:04,267
Speaker 3: Zenb eleven minutes past two. Mwana Pacifica have claimed the

1619
01:27:04,427 --> 01:27:07,467
Speaker 3: biggest upset of the Super right season so far.

1620
01:27:09,507 --> 01:27:14,427
Speaker 5: Molana magnificence a mauritele ad marts for Tano who.

1621
01:27:14,347 --> 01:27:19,467
Speaker 3: Mugger's been for the first time. They packed the Crusaders

1622
01:27:19,747 --> 01:27:23,467
Speaker 3: a famous forty five twenty nine win over the Crusaders

1623
01:27:23,627 --> 01:27:27,827
Speaker 3: in christ Church. Inspirational captain Ardie Savia led the way,

1624
01:27:27,907 --> 01:27:31,227
Speaker 3: scoring the first two Moana tries as they claimed their

1625
01:27:31,267 --> 01:27:34,587
Speaker 3: second win of the campaign. It was also the second

1626
01:27:34,747 --> 01:27:38,827
Speaker 3: most points the Crusaders have ever conceded in christ Church,

1627
01:27:39,227 --> 01:27:43,027
Speaker 3: surpassed only by the forty nine the Blues put on

1628
01:27:43,107 --> 01:27:46,867
Speaker 3: them in Super Rugby's very first season back in nineteen

1629
01:27:47,187 --> 01:27:50,867
Speaker 3: ninety six. Maana pacifica coach Tana Umanga is with us

1630
01:27:50,947 --> 01:27:53,987
Speaker 3: Tana thanks for taking the time. In general terms. First

1631
01:27:54,027 --> 01:27:56,387
Speaker 3: of all, how special a win is this for you

1632
01:27:56,867 --> 01:27:57,587
Speaker 3: and for your team?

1633
01:27:59,427 --> 01:27:59,547
Speaker 18: Oh?

1634
01:27:59,747 --> 01:28:03,987
Speaker 23: Very special. I suppose anyone's a special win. But when

1635
01:28:04,027 --> 01:28:07,747
Speaker 23: you come down here, you know, to christ Church and

1636
01:28:09,507 --> 01:28:13,227
Speaker 23: you play against the team that's obviously formidable at home

1637
01:28:13,307 --> 01:28:17,827
Speaker 23: and you know that they're one of the form teams. Yeah,

1638
01:28:17,947 --> 01:28:20,787
Speaker 23: you know, it is very special to do that. So

1639
01:28:21,507 --> 01:28:24,547
Speaker 23: you know, I'm very proud of the group and also

1640
01:28:24,627 --> 01:28:26,107
Speaker 23: you know the ones that came down here. But also

1641
01:28:26,147 --> 01:28:28,107
Speaker 23: the ones at home, you know that help us prepare

1642
01:28:28,187 --> 01:28:31,467
Speaker 23: for You know, what was our best performance of the year?

1643
01:28:32,307 --> 01:28:35,427
Speaker 3: Was this the eighty minute performance you've been looking.

1644
01:28:35,187 --> 01:28:38,027
Speaker 6: For for sure?

1645
01:28:38,267 --> 01:28:42,507
Speaker 23: You know, you know we've been good at patches as

1646
01:28:42,547 --> 01:28:48,987
Speaker 23: we've seen, and uh, you know it was probably you know,

1647
01:28:50,467 --> 01:28:52,227
Speaker 23: we don't want to get too far in front of

1648
01:28:52,307 --> 01:28:55,387
Speaker 23: ourselves here, Jason, but you know there's obviously still things

1649
01:28:55,427 --> 01:28:57,467
Speaker 23: to work on. But no, you know, this is probably

1650
01:28:57,627 --> 01:29:02,067
Speaker 23: again probably our best performances I've been here, and we

1651
01:29:02,187 --> 01:29:04,347
Speaker 23: know we've we've got more on us and we don't

1652
01:29:04,347 --> 01:29:05,987
Speaker 23: we know we have to have more on us because

1653
01:29:05,987 --> 01:29:08,547
Speaker 23: we can't just rely on this one game. But you know,

1654
01:29:09,107 --> 01:29:12,867
Speaker 23: we enjoyed our performance and our win last night and

1655
01:29:13,907 --> 01:29:16,747
Speaker 23: now we're already you know, as you do in this competition,

1656
01:29:16,907 --> 01:29:20,187
Speaker 23: you can't keep thinking about what's in the past. You've

1657
01:29:20,187 --> 01:29:21,787
Speaker 23: got to move forward and you know we need to

1658
01:29:21,827 --> 01:29:22,347
Speaker 23: do that now.

1659
01:29:23,107 --> 01:29:25,627
Speaker 3: How hard tin of have you worked at blending the

1660
01:29:25,747 --> 01:29:28,907
Speaker 3: traditional style of Pacifica rugby which we all love to watch,

1661
01:29:29,387 --> 01:29:31,787
Speaker 3: with a work right and a structure that's needed to

1662
01:29:31,987 --> 01:29:33,267
Speaker 3: consistently win matches?

1663
01:29:37,147 --> 01:29:43,747
Speaker 23: Well, probably since we've got here, and I'm sure, yeah,

1664
01:29:43,987 --> 01:29:46,347
Speaker 23: look at and that's the thing.

1665
01:29:48,307 --> 01:29:48,467
Speaker 5: You know.

1666
01:29:48,547 --> 01:29:49,987
Speaker 23: We know we can play the game, we know we're

1667
01:29:50,027 --> 01:29:54,227
Speaker 23: exciting to watch, and traditionally that's in us, but we

1668
01:29:54,387 --> 01:29:57,067
Speaker 23: also know what's the coaching group and the playing group

1669
01:29:57,187 --> 01:29:59,867
Speaker 23: and the leadership that we have that we can't just

1670
01:29:59,947 --> 01:30:03,347
Speaker 23: rely on that to win games. And we want to

1671
01:30:03,347 --> 01:30:06,827
Speaker 23: be more than just attend that everyone loves watching and

1672
01:30:07,347 --> 01:30:09,907
Speaker 23: a highlight real team. We want to be a team

1673
01:30:09,987 --> 01:30:14,067
Speaker 23: that is consistent and can put out performances that people

1674
01:30:14,107 --> 01:30:16,387
Speaker 23: are proud of, not losing sight of who we are

1675
01:30:16,867 --> 01:30:18,587
Speaker 23: and what we can do. And we know we've got that,

1676
01:30:19,227 --> 01:30:21,867
Speaker 23: but we want to show exactly what you talked about

1677
01:30:21,907 --> 01:30:26,507
Speaker 23: around our work creating those effort areas and also you know,

1678
01:30:26,627 --> 01:30:29,267
Speaker 23: the detail around what good teams do to win games.

1679
01:30:30,387 --> 01:30:31,987
Speaker 23: And I think you know you saw a bit of

1680
01:30:32,067 --> 01:30:34,107
Speaker 23: that last night, and it's great to hear people talk

1681
01:30:34,187 --> 01:30:37,467
Speaker 23: around our work create not just the flair that we

1682
01:30:37,587 --> 01:30:38,667
Speaker 23: naturally bring to games.

1683
01:30:39,387 --> 01:30:42,427
Speaker 3: And so in that way, then will last night become

1684
01:30:42,827 --> 01:30:45,467
Speaker 3: something of a blueprint for you? Will it be something

1685
01:30:45,547 --> 01:30:47,867
Speaker 3: you can you know, you can reference with your team

1686
01:30:47,907 --> 01:30:49,987
Speaker 3: as you as you look for more performances.

1687
01:30:49,547 --> 01:30:49,747
Speaker 9: Like this.

1688
01:30:51,267 --> 01:30:57,107
Speaker 23: Exactly exactly. It's you know, we've had the blueprint for

1689
01:30:57,147 --> 01:31:02,027
Speaker 23: a while, you know, putting that plan in place, adhering

1690
01:31:02,107 --> 01:31:07,747
Speaker 23: to the plan, trusting the plan, and you know, just

1691
01:31:08,707 --> 01:31:11,387
Speaker 23: you know, for us, it's combining the emotion we have

1692
01:31:12,067 --> 01:31:13,867
Speaker 23: and all that energy that we want to do well

1693
01:31:13,947 --> 01:31:17,987
Speaker 23: and understanding that you know, we do this for a

1694
01:31:18,067 --> 01:31:21,307
Speaker 23: bigger purpose than just ourselves as a group. But we've

1695
01:31:21,347 --> 01:31:25,067
Speaker 23: got to channel that energy somewhere and channel channel it

1696
01:31:28,387 --> 01:31:30,227
Speaker 23: in a way that you know, we're all doing it,

1697
01:31:30,587 --> 01:31:33,667
Speaker 23: all doing it for the same reason. And you know,

1698
01:31:33,747 --> 01:31:36,267
Speaker 23: as we see were singing off the same hymn sheet,

1699
01:31:37,187 --> 01:31:40,107
Speaker 23: because we know when we do that, when we channel

1700
01:31:40,147 --> 01:31:42,347
Speaker 23: that energy in the right places at the right times

1701
01:31:42,427 --> 01:31:45,747
Speaker 23: and as a collective, then you know, we know we

1702
01:31:45,787 --> 01:31:48,267
Speaker 23: can get more, more results like we did last night.

1703
01:31:48,867 --> 01:31:50,907
Speaker 3: Early in the second half, you were thirty one, ten

1704
01:31:51,347 --> 01:31:53,427
Speaker 3: ahead and then a couple of tries to the Crusaders

1705
01:31:53,507 --> 01:31:56,267
Speaker 3: got them within nine. What were the conversations you were

1706
01:31:56,347 --> 01:31:58,987
Speaker 3: having when they got back to within nine points but

1707
01:31:59,147 --> 01:32:00,587
Speaker 3: still want about twenty five minutes to go.

1708
01:32:02,147 --> 01:32:04,827
Speaker 23: Oh, those are the big moments for us. There was

1709
01:32:04,867 --> 01:32:08,987
Speaker 23: a huge moment for us. And talking to skip Ardi,

1710
01:32:09,347 --> 01:32:12,067
Speaker 23: you know, he said, those are the moments that that

1711
01:32:12,507 --> 01:32:15,387
Speaker 23: you know, the boys stood up again. That's around uniting

1712
01:32:15,547 --> 01:32:18,707
Speaker 23: us around what we were going to go to next,

1713
01:32:19,387 --> 01:32:22,267
Speaker 23: and that that's something that we've worked on from especially

1714
01:32:22,307 --> 01:32:25,547
Speaker 23: from the last game, is that coming together in those moments,

1715
01:32:25,707 --> 01:32:29,347
Speaker 23: you know, and understanding that we know what to do,

1716
01:32:29,987 --> 01:32:33,427
Speaker 23: you know, have faith, trust the plan and you know,

1717
01:32:33,587 --> 01:32:37,427
Speaker 23: just go back to doing what we were doing and

1718
01:32:37,827 --> 01:32:41,107
Speaker 23: not not lose faith in that. And I think that

1719
01:32:41,307 --> 01:32:43,747
Speaker 23: was probably a turning point for us, and a big

1720
01:32:43,827 --> 01:32:48,467
Speaker 23: part about growth, especially from last week, was you know,

1721
01:32:48,587 --> 01:32:52,627
Speaker 23: swinging that momentum because it was turned against us when

1722
01:32:52,667 --> 01:32:55,227
Speaker 23: we had it all And obviously we know what it

1723
01:32:55,267 --> 01:32:58,827
Speaker 23: feels like when we let that momentum keep going to

1724
01:32:59,147 --> 01:33:02,067
Speaker 23: and giving that to the opposition teams. But again, you know,

1725
01:33:02,547 --> 01:33:05,467
Speaker 23: our leaders stepped up. The players understood on with Benea before,

1726
01:33:05,507 --> 01:33:08,107
Speaker 23: but now we want to chain this and uh, you know,

1727
01:33:08,827 --> 01:33:09,667
Speaker 23: for credit to them.

1728
01:33:09,587 --> 01:33:12,587
Speaker 3: They did a lot of players called the eye last night.

1729
01:33:12,587 --> 01:33:15,107
Speaker 3: I just want to ask you about Patrick Pellegrini. What

1730
01:33:15,227 --> 01:33:16,747
Speaker 3: have you seen in him? How proud have you been

1731
01:33:16,827 --> 01:33:19,627
Speaker 3: of his growth and his I get you he works,

1732
01:33:19,787 --> 01:33:22,827
Speaker 3: I'm sure closely with Jackson Garden Bashop inside your playing group,

1733
01:33:22,907 --> 01:33:25,547
Speaker 3: But what have you made of of Patrick Pellegrini's introduction

1734
01:33:25,627 --> 01:33:26,307
Speaker 3: to super rugby.

1735
01:33:27,667 --> 01:33:31,787
Speaker 23: Obviously he's you know, he's really taken to it. He's

1736
01:33:31,827 --> 01:33:34,347
Speaker 23: done everything that was after him from the preseason to now.

1737
01:33:34,467 --> 01:33:38,187
Speaker 23: And I was, you know, we've seen him play internationals

1738
01:33:38,467 --> 01:33:41,267
Speaker 23: and you know, from a guy that started in Sydney,

1739
01:33:41,987 --> 01:33:46,147
Speaker 23: took a punt and and you know signed with Division

1740
01:33:46,267 --> 01:33:50,907
Speaker 23: three in England and ended up playing Division two and

1741
01:33:51,027 --> 01:33:53,067
Speaker 23: then wanting to come back and play and always drink

1742
01:33:53,107 --> 01:33:57,427
Speaker 23: about playing super rugby and from what we saw and

1743
01:33:57,427 --> 01:34:00,147
Speaker 23: obviously him playing for Donna infitted into.

1744
01:34:00,467 --> 01:34:01,307
Speaker 18: What we were about.

1745
01:34:02,467 --> 01:34:05,307
Speaker 23: And then he just worked. And when you talk about work,

1746
01:34:05,347 --> 01:34:07,667
Speaker 23: but he worked hard in the in the off season

1747
01:34:07,747 --> 01:34:11,747
Speaker 23: and our pre season block. You know, he had a

1748
01:34:11,787 --> 01:34:13,787
Speaker 23: few things to work on. And you know, fortunately with

1749
01:34:13,907 --> 01:34:18,027
Speaker 23: the backstretches we have and Stephen Jones and Lovast and

1750
01:34:18,067 --> 01:34:22,467
Speaker 23: Mules sure, there's a lot of saw that you know,

1751
01:34:22,547 --> 01:34:25,227
Speaker 23: they just kept building his game and you can see,

1752
01:34:25,867 --> 01:34:28,107
Speaker 23: you know, when someone he has the flare. You know,

1753
01:34:28,147 --> 01:34:30,387
Speaker 23: I think that's the tongue in side that comes out

1754
01:34:30,467 --> 01:34:32,827
Speaker 23: on me. He loves he loves that side of the game.

1755
01:34:32,867 --> 01:34:36,227
Speaker 23: And you know, it was the other part in terms

1756
01:34:36,267 --> 01:34:38,627
Speaker 23: of managing a game, and he's learned a lot from

1757
01:34:38,667 --> 01:34:43,947
Speaker 23: Jackson as well, and now you're just see that. And again,

1758
01:34:44,227 --> 01:34:48,547
Speaker 23: you know, for someone who's coming to Super Rugby for

1759
01:34:48,627 --> 01:34:51,547
Speaker 23: the first time, you know, he's he's taking some learnings

1760
01:34:51,587 --> 01:34:54,347
Speaker 23: and he's he's worked hard on his craft and now

1761
01:34:54,427 --> 01:34:57,827
Speaker 23: we're you know, for him, it's the consistency. It's for him,

1762
01:34:57,907 --> 01:35:01,747
Speaker 23: it's you know, obviously everyone's talking about him now and

1763
01:35:01,827 --> 01:35:03,947
Speaker 23: that's a lot of guys, you know, they're talking about

1764
01:35:03,987 --> 01:35:06,587
Speaker 23: them now. Now it's you know, from talk, you know,

1765
01:35:06,747 --> 01:35:08,787
Speaker 23: taking on negative and being able to block dad. And

1766
01:35:08,867 --> 01:35:11,147
Speaker 23: it's also us just learning from it. You know, it's

1767
01:35:11,187 --> 01:35:13,667
Speaker 23: the same with all the positivity. For us, we can

1768
01:35:13,747 --> 01:35:15,907
Speaker 23: take confidence from it, but you're still just going to

1769
01:35:15,947 --> 01:35:18,627
Speaker 23: go back and do the job that we need to

1770
01:35:18,667 --> 01:35:19,707
Speaker 23: perform for our team.

1771
01:35:20,147 --> 01:35:22,787
Speaker 3: Just to finish it. It almost seems silly to ask

1772
01:35:22,827 --> 01:35:27,267
Speaker 3: you to find more ways to describe Ardie Savia. I

1773
01:35:27,347 --> 01:35:29,107
Speaker 3: don't know that there are too many more words. Couple

1774
01:35:29,147 --> 01:35:31,507
Speaker 3: of tries to start you off last night. Can you

1775
01:35:31,707 --> 01:35:34,147
Speaker 3: articulate what he brings to your team in any new way?

1776
01:35:34,227 --> 01:35:38,387
Speaker 3: Tata oh I was asked.

1777
01:35:38,227 --> 01:35:41,467
Speaker 23: The same question yesterday and I just said, look, it's

1778
01:35:41,507 --> 01:35:43,507
Speaker 23: everything that everyone says. But I get to see it

1779
01:35:43,547 --> 01:35:48,787
Speaker 23: every day, just like our players. You know, even last

1780
01:35:48,867 --> 01:35:52,827
Speaker 23: night after the game. It's keeping anyone's feet on the ground.

1781
01:35:53,267 --> 01:35:56,707
Speaker 23: You know, it's great. We enjoy it, you know, we

1782
01:35:56,867 --> 01:35:59,107
Speaker 23: love what we do and obviously give that result, but

1783
01:35:59,747 --> 01:36:01,707
Speaker 23: you know we want more, you know, we want their feeling.

1784
01:36:02,267 --> 01:36:04,427
Speaker 23: We've got to want more. We've got to know that

1785
01:36:04,547 --> 01:36:08,027
Speaker 23: this is not it, and that's the challenge. And you know,

1786
01:36:09,147 --> 01:36:13,627
Speaker 23: just hiding him, you know, I think just gives everyone

1787
01:36:13,787 --> 01:36:18,387
Speaker 23: confidence and lifts everyone to realize, actually, she's this is

1788
01:36:18,427 --> 01:36:21,267
Speaker 23: the s guy, you know, who's sacrificed but to be here,

1789
01:36:23,987 --> 01:36:27,187
Speaker 23: and they know they have to lift their levels. And

1790
01:36:27,347 --> 01:36:29,987
Speaker 23: then they realize when they lift those levels, they jeez,

1791
01:36:30,027 --> 01:36:32,147
Speaker 23: I can play at this level. You know, I can

1792
01:36:32,267 --> 01:36:34,747
Speaker 23: play it at a level that I mean, we can

1793
01:36:34,787 --> 01:36:38,147
Speaker 23: compete with the best. And so that just builds confidence.

1794
01:36:38,187 --> 01:36:40,747
Speaker 23: And that's the biggest thing that I think that he's

1795
01:36:40,747 --> 01:36:43,347
Speaker 23: brought to us. He's a confidence builder. You know, he's

1796
01:36:43,387 --> 01:36:47,027
Speaker 23: a leader both in his actions and his words. And

1797
01:36:47,227 --> 01:36:50,507
Speaker 23: I think he's someone that you know, we're very fortunate

1798
01:36:50,587 --> 01:36:54,747
Speaker 23: to have and unfortunate that he he aligned us hisself

1799
01:36:54,867 --> 01:36:59,547
Speaker 23: with with us so yeah, I think probably the word

1800
01:36:59,587 --> 01:37:01,987
Speaker 23: it's just really disgrateful, you know, for what he brings

1801
01:37:02,027 --> 01:37:04,827
Speaker 23: and what he does for us, and you knowing sure

1802
01:37:04,867 --> 01:37:06,347
Speaker 23: the players would say.

1803
01:37:06,187 --> 01:37:09,867
Speaker 3: This, congrats Tana, terrific performance, mate, thanks for the chat

1804
01:37:09,907 --> 01:37:13,787
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Thank you, Jose, appreciate it, No, appreciate you,

1805
01:37:13,907 --> 01:37:16,827
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tana. Tana Among that Mowana Pacifica coach off

1806
01:37:16,867 --> 01:37:21,747
Speaker 3: the back of a significant night in their history forty

1807
01:37:21,867 --> 01:37:25,227
Speaker 3: five twenty nine winners over the Crusaders in christ Church

1808
01:37:25,347 --> 01:37:29,147
Speaker 3: last night. So round seven of Super Rugby pacificas in

1809
01:37:29,187 --> 01:37:32,107
Speaker 3: the books, the Hurricanes beating the Warridzars fifty seven twelve

1810
01:37:32,147 --> 01:37:34,947
Speaker 3: Friday night, then the Brumbes thirty four Highland is twenty

1811
01:37:35,067 --> 01:37:37,987
Speaker 3: seven that result from Mowana Pacifica, followed by the Reds

1812
01:37:37,987 --> 01:37:40,547
Speaker 3: beating the Force as you heard in case you missed

1813
01:37:40,587 --> 01:37:43,307
Speaker 3: at So what that does to the table is put

1814
01:37:43,347 --> 01:37:47,107
Speaker 3: the Reds on top. The Reds are top of the

1815
01:37:47,227 --> 01:37:51,587
Speaker 3: Super Rugby table twenty three points from the Chiefs with

1816
01:37:51,747 --> 01:37:55,147
Speaker 3: twenty two. Now those two play one another in what

1817
01:37:55,347 --> 01:37:58,827
Speaker 3: is now a top of the table clash in Hamilton

1818
01:37:59,307 --> 01:38:03,747
Speaker 3: this coming Friday night. The remaining games are all on Saturday.

1819
01:38:03,827 --> 01:38:07,547
Speaker 3: You could sit there and have a quadron head if

1820
01:38:07,627 --> 01:38:11,227
Speaker 3: you want it. Wanda Pacific are welcoming the Waratars to Albany.

1821
01:38:11,307 --> 01:38:15,307
Speaker 3: They will be in high spirits welcoming a Waratar side

1822
01:38:15,347 --> 01:38:18,827
Speaker 3: that was pretty ordinary, particularly in the second half against

1823
01:38:18,827 --> 01:38:21,027
Speaker 3: the Hurricanes on Friday nights. So more wann pacifica will

1824
01:38:21,067 --> 01:38:25,227
Speaker 3: back themselves to go back to back the Fijian drewer. Meantime,

1825
01:38:25,307 --> 01:38:29,107
Speaker 3: will welcome a wounded Crusaders side to Suva where they

1826
01:38:29,187 --> 01:38:33,027
Speaker 3: always play well the drewer, so that's a challenge. The

1827
01:38:33,107 --> 01:38:35,427
Speaker 3: Crusaders will have to meet head on then Eden Park

1828
01:38:35,547 --> 01:38:40,147
Speaker 3: next Saturday night. Blues for Hurricanes. Hurricanes are very intriguing

1829
01:38:40,667 --> 01:38:42,227
Speaker 3: game there with the Blues off the back of the

1830
01:38:42,307 --> 01:38:45,747
Speaker 3: bye in a very ordinary start to their season up

1831
01:38:45,747 --> 01:38:49,067
Speaker 3: against the Hurricanes who kind of kickstarted themselves on Friday

1832
01:38:49,147 --> 01:38:52,227
Speaker 3: night against the Waratars. And then the Highlanders are across

1833
01:38:52,267 --> 01:38:54,387
Speaker 3: in Perth to take on the Force. And the Highlanders,

1834
01:38:54,427 --> 01:38:58,507
Speaker 3: who started well this season, have kind of very much

1835
01:38:58,627 --> 01:39:02,147
Speaker 3: dropped off recently and they're now outside the top six.

1836
01:39:02,267 --> 01:39:06,027
Speaker 3: So Round seven of Super Rugby Pacific next weekend is

1837
01:39:06,107 --> 01:39:10,267
Speaker 3: set to be another very very very Round eight. It

1838
01:39:10,387 --> 01:39:14,707
Speaker 3: is actually a very very intriguing set of matches. Anything

1839
01:39:14,747 --> 01:39:17,947
Speaker 3: on the Mona Pacifica Crusaders game that court. You're right,

1840
01:39:18,227 --> 01:39:21,867
Speaker 3: You're okay down there in christ Church Crusader supporters. Look,

1841
01:39:21,907 --> 01:39:26,427
Speaker 3: it's probably just a blip for you. You're still there

1842
01:39:26,507 --> 01:39:30,627
Speaker 3: or thereabouts. You're still third, and you know, I think

1843
01:39:30,787 --> 01:39:34,787
Speaker 3: the way you played against the Blues last weekend would

1844
01:39:34,827 --> 01:39:37,627
Speaker 3: suggest that there's still plenty of gas in this Crusaders tank.

1845
01:39:38,227 --> 01:39:40,907
Speaker 3: Somebody says, here, why do you like Mina Pacifica winning.

1846
01:39:41,507 --> 01:39:44,627
Speaker 3: That's the wrong attitude in so many ways. I would

1847
01:39:44,707 --> 01:39:47,907
Speaker 3: really like to know why that is the wrong attitude

1848
01:39:48,867 --> 01:39:52,627
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, because I just think we

1849
01:39:52,867 --> 01:39:58,427
Speaker 3: all want, have always wanted a strong competition from top

1850
01:39:58,467 --> 01:40:02,707
Speaker 3: to bottom jeopardy in knowing that we don't know from

1851
01:40:02,747 --> 01:40:05,187
Speaker 3: week to week who is going to beat who. Look,

1852
01:40:05,507 --> 01:40:07,747
Speaker 3: I don't think any body picked out last night. I

1853
01:40:09,307 --> 01:40:14,907
Speaker 3: was certainly expecting a comfortable Crusaders win. TAB certainly thought

1854
01:40:14,987 --> 01:40:19,947
Speaker 3: so a dollar nine six dollars. But I think we

1855
01:40:20,227 --> 01:40:24,347
Speaker 3: all want all teams to be strong. Why wouldn't we

1856
01:40:24,387 --> 01:40:28,107
Speaker 3: want Mowana Pacifica to be playing this way? I don't

1857
01:40:28,187 --> 01:40:30,907
Speaker 3: understand that text. Anyway you might have some thoughts on

1858
01:40:31,067 --> 01:40:33,627
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty or nine two ninety

1859
01:40:33,627 --> 01:40:36,107
Speaker 3: two on our text machine. Two twenty five, we're back

1860
01:40:36,147 --> 01:40:36,787
Speaker 3: and four after this.

1861
01:40:37,427 --> 01:40:40,947
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1862
01:40:41,147 --> 01:40:42,667
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1863
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1864
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1865
01:40:49,467 --> 01:40:52,667
Speaker 3: to talk ocean racing before we knock the show on

1866
01:40:52,707 --> 01:40:55,547
Speaker 3: the head at three, but super Rugby is what we're

1867
01:40:55,627 --> 01:40:58,267
Speaker 3: yarning about at the moment. What did you make of

1868
01:40:58,387 --> 01:41:00,787
Speaker 3: Mowana pacifica beating the Crusaders film?

1869
01:41:02,387 --> 01:41:07,427
Speaker 8: A yeah, I'm gonna say very good, but not for

1870
01:41:07,587 --> 01:41:10,067
Speaker 8: the fact they bet the Crusaders because I live here

1871
01:41:10,107 --> 01:41:15,787
Speaker 8: in Canterbury now, so but I know I was impressed.

1872
01:41:16,147 --> 01:41:16,947
Speaker 10: I thought.

1873
01:41:18,587 --> 01:41:20,427
Speaker 8: It was funny because I said to a friend that

1874
01:41:20,547 --> 01:41:24,387
Speaker 8: I'll go with the Crusaders on a parochial sort of sense.

1875
01:41:24,507 --> 01:41:27,187
Speaker 8: But I wouldn't be surprised if my Ana Pacific actually

1876
01:41:27,227 --> 01:41:29,427
Speaker 8: doing that, beating the Crusaders and bugging me. They did,

1877
01:41:29,947 --> 01:41:33,627
Speaker 8: but because just watching their performances, you know, so far

1878
01:41:33,747 --> 01:41:36,707
Speaker 8: they've been close and you can see they've got.

1879
01:41:36,587 --> 01:41:37,307
Speaker 10: The potential but.

1880
01:41:38,787 --> 01:41:40,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, last night I thought when I was watching them,

1881
01:41:41,187 --> 01:41:43,587
Speaker 8: a couple of words come to mind, and you used

1882
01:41:43,667 --> 01:41:48,067
Speaker 8: one earlier on was resilience, and also I think a

1883
01:41:48,187 --> 01:41:51,867
Speaker 8: maturity maybe that's come of age or sort of come

1884
01:41:51,907 --> 01:41:54,467
Speaker 8: of age and maturity that's come about them through maybe

1885
01:41:55,067 --> 01:41:59,787
Speaker 8: the influence of Tanna Humannger's coaching and all his experience

1886
01:42:01,027 --> 01:42:05,747
Speaker 8: and Artie Savia. But because last night they were just

1887
01:42:06,067 --> 01:42:08,867
Speaker 8: beat the Crusaders and then Rob Penny kind of I

1888
01:42:08,987 --> 01:42:13,307
Speaker 8: listened to him afterwards and he basically said virtually the

1889
01:42:13,427 --> 01:42:15,227
Speaker 8: same thing, and that you know, they just for some

1890
01:42:15,427 --> 01:42:20,307
Speaker 8: reason it seems like their mind wasn't so in the game,

1891
01:42:22,867 --> 01:42:27,707
Speaker 8: but they were just basically beaten by Ryana Pacific to

1892
01:42:27,787 --> 01:42:30,787
Speaker 8: the breakdown. Because the thing when I say resilience and

1893
01:42:30,867 --> 01:42:35,147
Speaker 8: coming of age, I think like in the past, Malana Pacific,

1894
01:42:35,267 --> 01:42:39,347
Speaker 8: I think I've had a tendency to if they get

1895
01:42:39,427 --> 01:42:42,987
Speaker 8: behind or things start going wrong, they tend to sort

1896
01:42:43,027 --> 01:42:46,827
Speaker 8: of that expression, drop the bottom lips, so to speak,

1897
01:42:46,907 --> 01:42:50,427
Speaker 8: and get a bit discouraged and maybe a bit disheartened.

1898
01:42:50,507 --> 01:42:54,467
Speaker 8: So therefore you know that they don't I won't say not, Troy,

1899
01:42:54,627 --> 01:42:56,267
Speaker 8: but you know they just tend to give up the

1900
01:42:56,307 --> 01:42:59,707
Speaker 8: ghost of bit as I say, i'd say, but last

1901
01:42:59,787 --> 01:43:01,587
Speaker 8: night I didn't see that. And that's why I use

1902
01:43:01,667 --> 01:43:04,987
Speaker 8: the word maturity and resilience, where they stuck to the

1903
01:43:05,107 --> 01:43:09,707
Speaker 8: game plan and they executed well, you know, their moves

1904
01:43:09,747 --> 01:43:12,627
Speaker 8: and that, and they just manned up and put their

1905
01:43:12,667 --> 01:43:15,787
Speaker 8: head down. And I'm looking for the right word to use,

1906
01:43:15,867 --> 01:43:18,467
Speaker 8: but they didn't drop that lip, you know, they just

1907
01:43:18,667 --> 01:43:21,267
Speaker 8: even when the Crusaders started coming back, like you said,

1908
01:43:21,307 --> 01:43:23,147
Speaker 8: and I will start and I was sort of thinking, oh,

1909
01:43:23,187 --> 01:43:25,867
Speaker 8: here we go, Tody Taylor's on the come back too

1910
01:43:25,907 --> 01:43:28,587
Speaker 8: quick tries, We're going to roll them. And I think

1911
01:43:28,627 --> 01:43:30,587
Speaker 8: in the past they might have done that with on

1912
01:43:30,667 --> 01:43:33,547
Speaker 8: the Pacific, but the attitude was different, you know, that

1913
01:43:33,707 --> 01:43:36,667
Speaker 8: maturity where they they didn't give up the ghost. They

1914
01:43:36,827 --> 01:43:40,747
Speaker 8: just put their head down and played.

1915
01:43:41,347 --> 01:43:43,907
Speaker 3: I think I think maturity is exactly the right word pill.

1916
01:43:44,027 --> 01:43:45,987
Speaker 3: I think that's what's happened to this rugby team. They

1917
01:43:46,027 --> 01:43:48,307
Speaker 3: have matured as a rugby team to the point where

1918
01:43:48,547 --> 01:43:51,827
Speaker 3: as you say, they've always been able to score tries,

1919
01:43:51,947 --> 01:43:55,387
Speaker 3: but defensively, can they put in an eighty minute performance

1920
01:43:55,467 --> 01:43:58,707
Speaker 3: that will keep teams out like the Crusaders and others

1921
01:43:59,067 --> 01:44:01,987
Speaker 3: when they're ahead, and they have, you know, for the

1922
01:44:02,067 --> 01:44:04,547
Speaker 3: most part, not really been able to do that. So

1923
01:44:04,987 --> 01:44:07,667
Speaker 3: I think last night they showed maturity that I was

1924
01:44:08,107 --> 01:44:11,907
Speaker 3: delighted to see and look forward to seeing more of.

1925
01:44:12,467 --> 01:44:14,667
Speaker 3: For Rob Penny's part, and you picked up on it,

1926
01:44:14,747 --> 01:44:22,067
Speaker 3: Phil some of the language he used afterwards beaten up, physically, fragile, no,

1927
01:44:22,387 --> 01:44:26,067
Speaker 3: emotional energy poor, they were some of the words that

1928
01:44:26,587 --> 01:44:30,867
Speaker 3: Rob Penny was using. He was utterly displeased with his

1929
01:44:30,987 --> 01:44:34,147
Speaker 3: team now. Losing David HARVILLI clearly didn't help because he

1930
01:44:34,347 --> 01:44:36,227
Speaker 3: was a big part of the win over the Blues

1931
01:44:36,307 --> 01:44:37,707
Speaker 3: last week, and in fact it's been a big part

1932
01:44:37,747 --> 01:44:41,107
Speaker 3: of the Crusaders all season. And by the sounds of it,

1933
01:44:41,187 --> 01:44:43,787
Speaker 3: he won't go to Fiji next week either, so they'll

1934
01:44:43,827 --> 01:44:47,227
Speaker 3: have to have to make do in midfield with a

1935
01:44:47,307 --> 01:44:50,587
Speaker 3: different combination as they did yesterday. They moved Dallas McLeod

1936
01:44:50,627 --> 01:44:54,067
Speaker 3: into second five and Levi Armore came into the centers.

1937
01:44:54,107 --> 01:44:57,307
Speaker 3: Hasn't played, certainly not from the start very often this season,

1938
01:44:57,387 --> 01:44:59,387
Speaker 3: Levi l Moore. They'll probably have to go with something

1939
01:44:59,427 --> 01:45:01,747
Speaker 3: similar next week. It was interesting, wasn't it, Because you

1940
01:45:01,827 --> 01:45:05,307
Speaker 3: looked at that team and Noah Hotham and James O'Connor

1941
01:45:05,347 --> 01:45:07,067
Speaker 3: teaming up for the first time. I'm in the halves

1942
01:45:07,787 --> 01:45:11,867
Speaker 3: Macas Springer, Will, Jordan Schaffee Harkey as a back three,

1943
01:45:12,267 --> 01:45:15,427
Speaker 3: even without Harvey and with a Ford pack that's always

1944
01:45:15,467 --> 01:45:19,627
Speaker 3: strong and with plenty of reinforcement off the bench. I

1945
01:45:19,667 --> 01:45:21,947
Speaker 3: don't think there was anybody who thought the Crusaders wouldn't

1946
01:45:21,947 --> 01:45:25,347
Speaker 3: win that game. Well, there were a few, and they

1947
01:45:25,387 --> 01:45:28,187
Speaker 3: were wearing Morena pacifica gear. Good to chat to, you felt,

1948
01:45:28,267 --> 01:45:30,947
Speaker 3: thanks for calling. In twenty eight Away from three, We're

1949
01:45:30,947 --> 01:45:32,387
Speaker 3: going to take a break again and come back and

1950
01:45:32,507 --> 01:45:36,867
Speaker 3: go ocean racing. Well not exactly go ocean racing, but

1951
01:45:37,147 --> 01:45:40,787
Speaker 3: chat a bit about it with Conrad Coleman, who's got

1952
01:45:40,827 --> 01:45:44,027
Speaker 3: his hand up for an entry into the Ocean Race

1953
01:45:44,667 --> 01:45:47,027
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty seven when it's set to head Auckland

1954
01:45:47,027 --> 01:45:48,707
Speaker 3: for the first time in a week while he's gonna

1955
01:45:48,707 --> 01:45:49,987
Speaker 3: pop in a studio for a bit of a chat

1956
01:45:50,067 --> 01:45:50,587
Speaker 3: right after this.

1957
01:45:51,027 --> 01:45:51,827
Speaker 2: Don't get caught off.

1958
01:45:51,907 --> 01:45:56,147
Speaker 1: Signed eight eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hym

1959
01:45:56,427 --> 01:46:00,227
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1960
01:46:00,107 --> 01:46:03,547
Speaker 3: News Dogs ENV twenty four to three the Ocean Race,

1961
01:46:03,587 --> 01:46:05,867
Speaker 3: the world's toughest test of a team in sport, is

1962
01:46:05,907 --> 01:46:09,067
Speaker 3: returning to Auckland in the twenty twenty seven edition of

1963
01:46:09,107 --> 01:46:12,147
Speaker 3: the iconic Around the World Offshore Race, formerly known as

1964
01:46:12,187 --> 01:46:15,027
Speaker 3: the Whitbread Round the World Race The Volvo Ocean Race

1965
01:46:15,387 --> 01:46:18,587
Speaker 3: last scene here in New Zealand in twenty eighteen. Among

1966
01:46:18,667 --> 01:46:21,787
Speaker 3: those taking part will be key We Offshore sailor and

1967
01:46:21,907 --> 01:46:26,387
Speaker 3: two times solo vond Globe racer Conrad Coleman, who has

1968
01:46:26,427 --> 01:46:29,907
Speaker 3: announced his new team Altdo Ocean Racing will take on

1969
01:46:29,987 --> 01:46:32,667
Speaker 3: the challenge. Conrad Coleman's in studio with us. Great to

1970
01:46:32,667 --> 01:46:34,307
Speaker 3: see you mate, Thanks for stopping and tell us about

1971
01:46:34,347 --> 01:46:36,947
Speaker 3: this project and your motivation for it.

1972
01:46:37,867 --> 01:46:42,227
Speaker 24: Well, it's pretty epic because it's rare, as I'm forty

1973
01:46:42,307 --> 01:46:45,187
Speaker 24: one now that we get to live out a childhood

1974
01:46:45,227 --> 01:46:49,267
Speaker 24: dream and I grew up here in Auckland and every

1975
01:46:49,307 --> 01:46:53,027
Speaker 24: couple of years then we had this epic Whitbread as

1976
01:46:53,067 --> 01:46:55,667
Speaker 24: it was then fleet that came ripping in and out

1977
01:46:55,707 --> 01:46:59,547
Speaker 24: of the harbor, typically with New Zealanders that were lifting

1978
01:46:59,627 --> 01:47:05,107
Speaker 24: the trophy. You know, obviously Peter blakeground Dalton and all

1979
01:47:05,147 --> 01:47:08,547
Speaker 24: of these legends and as a schoolboy. This is what

1980
01:47:08,707 --> 01:47:12,627
Speaker 24: got me excited, and I have now sort of had

1981
01:47:13,147 --> 01:47:16,227
Speaker 24: a long and winding road, but it ultimately became a

1982
01:47:16,267 --> 01:47:20,307
Speaker 24: professional ocean racing saleer myself, but in a very particular sector.

1983
01:47:20,507 --> 01:47:22,827
Speaker 24: You know, I moved to France to do this solo

1984
01:47:22,907 --> 01:47:27,347
Speaker 24: ocean race, the Vonne Globe, and that is completely completely unique.

1985
01:47:27,667 --> 01:47:31,347
Speaker 24: It's a professional ocean racing circuit based around sailing solo

1986
01:47:32,307 --> 01:47:35,267
Speaker 24: either across Atlantic or indeed, as I've just done two

1987
01:47:35,347 --> 01:47:40,427
Speaker 24: times around the world. And now the ocean Race as

1988
01:47:40,587 --> 01:47:43,467
Speaker 24: it is now called has adopted the same fleet of

1989
01:47:43,507 --> 01:47:45,787
Speaker 24: boats that I have just become an expert in sailing,

1990
01:47:46,347 --> 01:47:49,067
Speaker 24: and so I kind of feel like quite by accident,

1991
01:47:49,307 --> 01:47:51,347
Speaker 24: is that I've become sort of centrally located in this

1992
01:47:51,467 --> 01:47:51,947
Speaker 24: fusion of.

1993
01:47:51,987 --> 01:47:52,707
Speaker 3: These two worlds.

1994
01:47:52,787 --> 01:47:55,427
Speaker 24: What used to be called the whipbread fully crued ocean

1995
01:47:55,507 --> 01:47:58,307
Speaker 24: racing coming to New Zealand and what I've just completed,

1996
01:47:58,387 --> 01:47:59,867
Speaker 24: the NonStop solo race around the world.

1997
01:48:00,507 --> 01:48:02,747
Speaker 3: So the boats then tell us about those are they?

1998
01:48:03,467 --> 01:48:08,787
Speaker 3: Are they failing boats? Yes, absolutely so around the world racing, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1999
01:48:08,907 --> 01:48:12,187
Speaker 24: So if you can imagine what we've had the chance

2000
01:48:12,267 --> 01:48:14,907
Speaker 24: to see out on our harbor here recently with with

2001
01:48:15,027 --> 01:48:20,027
Speaker 24: SALGP and of course the America's Cup foiling. They're foiler assisted,

2002
01:48:20,067 --> 01:48:22,147
Speaker 24: so they don't completely fly or not at least in

2003
01:48:22,147 --> 01:48:25,347
Speaker 24: a very stable manner, which is kind of problematic. You

2004
01:48:25,467 --> 01:48:27,667
Speaker 24: end up doing these sort of quite dramatic hop skips

2005
01:48:27,667 --> 01:48:32,427
Speaker 24: and jumps and of course big splashdowns. But these are wild,

2006
01:48:32,707 --> 01:48:35,107
Speaker 24: wild boats. You know, if you could, if you can

2007
01:48:35,187 --> 01:48:38,467
Speaker 24: make the parallel to you know, Formula one is definitely

2008
01:48:38,507 --> 01:48:40,947
Speaker 24: the America's Cup. You know, these are fragile beasts that

2009
01:48:41,187 --> 01:48:43,267
Speaker 24: you know, gets shammy down at the end of their race.

2010
01:48:43,827 --> 01:48:46,187
Speaker 24: Everybody goes home and sleeps in nice comfy beds at

2011
01:48:46,187 --> 01:48:46,747
Speaker 24: the end of the day.

2012
01:48:47,427 --> 01:48:48,387
Speaker 12: This is not that you know.

2013
01:48:48,547 --> 01:48:51,507
Speaker 24: What I do is if we go to a parallel

2014
01:48:51,547 --> 01:48:55,907
Speaker 24: with the Motorsport World it is World Championship Rally, and

2015
01:48:56,107 --> 01:48:59,707
Speaker 24: so that is gritty, it is brutal. It goes all day,

2016
01:48:59,987 --> 01:49:04,747
Speaker 24: all night, you know, up up over mountain passes, and

2017
01:49:05,627 --> 01:49:06,787
Speaker 24: so it's the same kind of thing. You know, we

2018
01:49:06,827 --> 01:49:09,507
Speaker 24: don't have a big, big, short crew. It's the sailors

2019
01:49:09,547 --> 01:49:12,307
Speaker 24: that fix the boats. You have to be incredibly multi

2020
01:49:12,347 --> 01:49:15,987
Speaker 24: talented to be able to fix the boat and get

2021
01:49:16,147 --> 01:49:19,147
Speaker 24: hands stuck into the electronics keep a very complicated racing

2022
01:49:19,227 --> 01:49:22,147
Speaker 24: machine alive in some of the most treacherous and dangerous

2023
01:49:22,187 --> 01:49:25,707
Speaker 24: places on our globe, so most notably the Southern Ocean,

2024
01:49:26,667 --> 01:49:28,867
Speaker 24: where I was just a couple of months ago. And

2025
01:49:29,667 --> 01:49:32,587
Speaker 24: so it's incredibly exciting and challenging because you know, one

2026
01:49:32,667 --> 01:49:36,627
Speaker 24: day it's never liked the other. And what I am

2027
01:49:36,707 --> 01:49:40,387
Speaker 24: now super excited about is taking all of my expertise

2028
01:49:40,427 --> 01:49:42,787
Speaker 24: that that I've developed over the last fifteen years in

2029
01:49:43,107 --> 01:49:46,227
Speaker 24: the French solo saving world and sharing that with key

2030
01:49:46,267 --> 01:49:50,707
Speaker 24: we sailors. Because I had to move to France, I

2031
01:49:50,827 --> 01:49:53,067
Speaker 24: didn't know anybody, I didn't know the language, and I

2032
01:49:53,227 --> 01:49:58,787
Speaker 24: have created, you know, my life all over again in

2033
01:49:59,227 --> 01:50:04,227
Speaker 24: the sort of little west westy wild corner of Brittany

2034
01:50:04,267 --> 01:50:07,227
Speaker 24: and France. And I've been the first key to go

2035
01:50:07,547 --> 01:50:11,267
Speaker 24: and fully integrate myself into the French Silian circuit. And

2036
01:50:11,347 --> 01:50:13,427
Speaker 24: so the barrier to entry is just huge. You know,

2037
01:50:13,827 --> 01:50:15,907
Speaker 24: if you don't know people, if you don't speak the language,

2038
01:50:16,667 --> 01:50:18,347
Speaker 24: then you just don't have access to this kind of

2039
01:50:18,547 --> 01:50:21,627
Speaker 24: of sailing. And I'm now in a position where I

2040
01:50:21,667 --> 01:50:24,387
Speaker 24: can open the door as wide as possible, bring in

2041
01:50:24,507 --> 01:50:27,827
Speaker 24: the rest of the country with us and then get

2042
01:50:27,947 --> 01:50:30,987
Speaker 24: Kiwi sailors both onto the boat and then also technicians

2043
01:50:31,027 --> 01:50:35,667
Speaker 24: and members of our marine industry into the team as riggers,

2044
01:50:35,707 --> 01:50:38,187
Speaker 24: as boat builders and so on. And the goal is

2045
01:50:38,267 --> 01:50:40,787
Speaker 24: to get the whole country on board with us as

2046
01:50:40,867 --> 01:50:43,427
Speaker 24: we enter the Ocean Race in twenty twenty seven.

2047
01:50:43,547 --> 01:50:46,267
Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing. So how BIG's the crew and how have

2048
01:50:46,347 --> 01:50:50,707
Speaker 3: you gone about assembling your crew? You've obviously started that,

2049
01:50:51,027 --> 01:50:52,227
Speaker 3: what's the process behind that?

2050
01:50:52,827 --> 01:50:54,747
Speaker 24: Yeah, well, again, the contrast with the wetbread back in

2051
01:50:54,787 --> 01:50:57,707
Speaker 24: the day is pretty different. And you know, we used

2052
01:50:57,707 --> 01:51:00,267
Speaker 24: to have these these huge boats like New Zealand Endeavor

2053
01:51:00,627 --> 01:51:04,467
Speaker 24: that had sort of eighteen burly bearded, hairy, smelly dudes

2054
01:51:04,507 --> 01:51:07,507
Speaker 24: on it. Now, you know, things have moved on a

2055
01:51:07,587 --> 01:51:10,827
Speaker 24: fair bit. First of all, it's a mixed crew and

2056
01:51:10,947 --> 01:51:14,067
Speaker 24: so women are on board and that is fantastic. It's

2057
01:51:14,187 --> 01:51:19,827
Speaker 24: it's really good to have a bo both sexes involved

2058
01:51:19,947 --> 01:51:22,307
Speaker 24: in a high performance team. It tends to mellow out

2059
01:51:22,347 --> 01:51:27,627
Speaker 24: the crazy crazy side and so yeah, so, so first

2060
01:51:27,627 --> 01:51:29,627
Speaker 24: of all, that's really good. And then also the definition

2061
01:51:29,707 --> 01:51:32,267
Speaker 24: of fully crewed has changed as well. And you know,

2062
01:51:32,387 --> 01:51:35,587
Speaker 24: for the for the aucland yachtes that go and do

2063
01:51:35,627 --> 01:51:38,067
Speaker 24: the Coastal Classic and so on. You typically have sort

2064
01:51:38,067 --> 01:51:41,707
Speaker 24: of ten people on a relatively small boat, maybe a

2065
01:51:41,787 --> 01:51:44,747
Speaker 24: forty footer. We have a sixty footer and it's fully

2066
01:51:44,827 --> 01:51:48,067
Speaker 24: crewed with only four sailors, and so that means that

2067
01:51:48,187 --> 01:51:50,747
Speaker 24: each person has to have a number of strings to

2068
01:51:50,787 --> 01:51:53,387
Speaker 24: their bow. You know, you can't have specialists. You know,

2069
01:51:53,507 --> 01:51:56,427
Speaker 24: specialists are for insects. You know, humans are really good

2070
01:51:56,467 --> 01:51:57,867
Speaker 24: at doing a whole bunch of things, and that's what

2071
01:51:57,987 --> 01:51:59,987
Speaker 24: we have to do in the crew. And so you

2072
01:52:00,107 --> 01:52:02,907
Speaker 24: can't just have you know, don't want to get to technical,

2073
01:52:02,947 --> 01:52:04,787
Speaker 24: but you can't just have a bowman or somebody who's

2074
01:52:04,787 --> 01:52:07,667
Speaker 24: involved and just on pulling strings. Each person has to

2075
01:52:07,747 --> 01:52:10,027
Speaker 24: have a global perspective as to what the routing or

2076
01:52:10,027 --> 01:52:14,027
Speaker 24: the navigation is. I have to have somebody that's really

2077
01:52:14,067 --> 01:52:15,747
Speaker 24: good at putting sales up on the front of the

2078
01:52:15,787 --> 01:52:19,147
Speaker 24: boat when it's blown a wholly, and they also need

2079
01:52:19,227 --> 01:52:20,347
Speaker 24: to be able to fix the boat if it goes

2080
01:52:20,387 --> 01:52:21,147
Speaker 24: banging as well.

2081
01:52:21,467 --> 01:52:25,547
Speaker 3: Wow, well, multi talented people are the ones you're after.

2082
01:52:25,707 --> 01:52:30,347
Speaker 3: So ocean racing itself, I'm sure you get asked this

2083
01:52:30,427 --> 01:52:32,627
Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, what is the attraction for you?

2084
01:52:34,387 --> 01:52:36,267
Speaker 24: It's not just getting spashed in the face for eighty

2085
01:52:36,307 --> 01:52:39,827
Speaker 24: five days in a row. For me, and particularly with

2086
01:52:39,987 --> 01:52:41,867
Speaker 24: the race that I just completed, the Vonde Globe, where

2087
01:52:41,867 --> 01:52:46,427
Speaker 24: you do the solo, and the attraction is the fact

2088
01:52:46,467 --> 01:52:51,627
Speaker 24: that it's multidisciplinary that both on land. I'm an entrepreneur,

2089
01:52:51,747 --> 01:52:53,547
Speaker 24: so I have to run around and find sponsors and

2090
01:52:53,667 --> 01:52:56,707
Speaker 24: make that connection with responsors. I do lots of speeches

2091
01:52:56,747 --> 01:53:00,907
Speaker 24: and engagements with my sponsors to activate the partnership within

2092
01:53:00,987 --> 01:53:03,787
Speaker 24: their companies. And so first of all, I provide value

2093
01:53:03,827 --> 01:53:06,507
Speaker 24: to my sponsors and I have to go find them.

2094
01:53:06,547 --> 01:53:08,347
Speaker 24: I run my own company. I do my own accounting,

2095
01:53:08,907 --> 01:53:13,387
Speaker 24: often at two am. And then the actual sailing side

2096
01:53:13,707 --> 01:53:16,467
Speaker 24: is well. I put together a technical team and so

2097
01:53:16,547 --> 01:53:21,787
Speaker 24: I'm a manager of a small company. I drive a

2098
01:53:21,907 --> 01:53:27,067
Speaker 24: fantastically passionate group of really really skilled technicians on how

2099
01:53:27,107 --> 01:53:29,227
Speaker 24: to prepare the boat in the most appropriate way. And

2100
01:53:29,307 --> 01:53:32,387
Speaker 24: then when I'm actually out there by myself. It's it's

2101
01:53:32,587 --> 01:53:35,947
Speaker 24: rare now in our modern era to be fully reliant

2102
01:53:36,227 --> 01:53:39,947
Speaker 24: only upon yourself, and that is not only in competition,

2103
01:53:40,027 --> 01:53:42,507
Speaker 24: but also in safety. You know that I I've had

2104
01:53:42,547 --> 01:53:44,867
Speaker 24: medical training, so I know how to do sutures and

2105
01:53:45,347 --> 01:53:49,547
Speaker 24: when sailing double handed. I once had to open a

2106
01:53:49,587 --> 01:53:53,067
Speaker 24: split you know, close a split head somebody and you know,

2107
01:53:53,187 --> 01:53:56,827
Speaker 24: putting tens ten stitches up his face to sort them

2108
01:53:56,827 --> 01:54:01,227
Speaker 24: out again. And to be totally reliant upon myself in

2109
01:54:01,347 --> 01:54:04,347
Speaker 24: terms of looking after myself, figuring out how to look

2110
01:54:04,347 --> 01:54:06,747
Speaker 24: after the boat, all of the complicated systems on board,

2111
01:54:06,947 --> 01:54:10,267
Speaker 24: the navigation, and finally there's the sort of actual sailing,

2112
01:54:10,307 --> 01:54:14,107
Speaker 24: the pulling on the string spit is actually a small

2113
01:54:14,147 --> 01:54:16,947
Speaker 24: minority of what I actually get up to. And and

2114
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Speaker 24: so it's it's this eclective mix which is really interesting

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Speaker 24: and really passionate and exciting. And then ultimately having that

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01:54:24,227 --> 01:54:26,667
Speaker 24: expertise in the and creating that opportunity to get down

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Speaker 24: into the Southern Ocean, to be there with the Albatross

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Speaker 24: by yourself, and to be in control of this wildly powerful,

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01:54:33,067 --> 01:54:36,227
Speaker 24: crazy machine and to feel at ease in the middle

2120
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Speaker 24: of a storm is an incredibly powerful moment. You know,

2121
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Speaker 24: it's it's it's a long journey that's got me there.

2122
01:54:43,027 --> 01:54:46,187
Speaker 24: But to be in the Southern Ocean in a storm

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01:54:46,627 --> 01:54:48,267
Speaker 24: and to be feeling good about it, and to be

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01:54:48,507 --> 01:54:52,307
Speaker 24: in attack rather than survival mode, it's it's an incredibly

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Speaker 24: addicting experience.

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Speaker 3: What can I just ask you a bit more about that.

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Speaker 3: I think we've all seen footage of the Southern Ocean

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Speaker 3: and boats like yours in the Southern Ocean. Is it

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Speaker 3: in any way scary?

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Speaker 24: It can be, It really can be, and yet I

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Speaker 24: do it anyway. And so as they said, this is

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Speaker 24: a sixty foot boat, eighteen meters long. It's one of

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01:55:16,787 --> 01:55:19,347
Speaker 24: the fastest boats in the world. And you're trying to,

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Speaker 24: you know, be a jockey on the back of that,

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Speaker 24: you know, control the beast. And the way that I

2136
01:55:26,427 --> 01:55:28,787
Speaker 24: talk about it is if I'm in phase with the boat,

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01:55:29,267 --> 01:55:31,427
Speaker 24: if I'm changing sales at the right time, if I'm

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Speaker 24: on top of the maintenance, if everything's going well, then

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Speaker 24: I feel like the boat is really small.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 24: It's almost like stating in a laser out in the bay.

2142
01:55:37,947 --> 01:55:39,947
Speaker 24: You know, I can whack a GiB in anytime I want.

2143
01:55:40,107 --> 01:55:45,947
Speaker 24: I'm on top of my of my program. But as

2144
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Speaker 24: soon as something goes wrong, the boat gets real big,

2145
01:55:48,507 --> 01:55:51,347
Speaker 24: real fast, and that's when you realize that, oh man,

2146
01:55:51,387 --> 01:55:53,467
Speaker 24: I'm out here by myself. I've only got two hands.

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01:55:53,507 --> 01:55:56,747
Speaker 24: I've only got you know, relatively small small amount of

2148
01:55:56,787 --> 01:55:58,747
Speaker 24: power that I can bring to bring to beer hair.

2149
01:55:59,867 --> 01:56:04,027
Speaker 24: And so that's why anticipating is so so crucial. Experience

2150
01:56:04,187 --> 01:56:06,147
Speaker 24: is so so crucial. You know, I've got a few

2151
01:56:06,147 --> 01:56:07,947
Speaker 24: great here's now, and I'm happy that those count for

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01:56:08,027 --> 01:56:12,467
Speaker 24: something these days. So yeah, So it comes down to

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Speaker 24: controlling the beast and staying on top of it and anticipating.

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01:56:17,467 --> 01:56:20,027
Speaker 24: But ultimately, when you're fully locked in and things are

2155
01:56:20,067 --> 01:56:24,427
Speaker 24: going really well, it's amazing to be cruising through five

2156
01:56:24,507 --> 01:56:26,987
Speaker 24: hundred miles a day on a boat out there by yourself.

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01:56:27,027 --> 01:56:28,627
Speaker 24: It's amazing, I'll bet.

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Speaker 3: And another feature of it, you completed the last two

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Speaker 3: Vondi globe campaigns without burning any fossil fuels at all.

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Speaker 3: So how strong is your commitment to decarbonization?

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Speaker 24: Rock solid? And just for those that are listening, yeah,

2162
01:56:42,747 --> 01:56:46,267
Speaker 24: it's a sailboat, but sailboats have lots of complicated systems

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01:56:46,307 --> 01:56:49,987
Speaker 24: on board now, and so we have computers, we have

2164
01:56:50,027 --> 01:56:54,947
Speaker 24: Satelle communications systems, we have a very high tech autopilot

2165
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Speaker 24: because we don't actually drive the boats ourselves. We put

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01:56:57,147 --> 01:56:59,467
Speaker 24: on the strings and trim the sails and do the

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01:56:59,587 --> 01:57:01,107
Speaker 24: navigation and all the rest of it, but actually the

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Speaker 24: boat drives itself. For ninety nine percent at the time,

2169
01:57:03,907 --> 01:57:07,267
Speaker 24: and all of that takes energy, obviously, and so everybody

2170
01:57:07,267 --> 01:57:10,187
Speaker 24: else in the race runs a diesel generator that charges

2171
01:57:10,227 --> 01:57:12,667
Speaker 24: the batteries, and they fire up the old Donkey a

2172
01:57:12,707 --> 01:57:16,627
Speaker 24: couple of times a day. And I felt like of

2173
01:57:16,747 --> 01:57:18,827
Speaker 24: all of the mechanical sports in the world, we had

2174
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Speaker 24: the opportunity to really show how things can how things

2175
01:57:22,227 --> 01:57:24,467
Speaker 24: can be and should be. You know, we're pushed by

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Speaker 24: the wind. I think we should be charged by the sun.

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Speaker 24: And so during the course of several refits of the

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Speaker 24: last couple of years, I completely covered the boat in

2179
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Speaker 24: solar panels and then developed some small we call them

2180
01:57:38,347 --> 01:57:40,667
Speaker 24: hydro generators, but they're basically turbines that we can drop

2181
01:57:40,707 --> 01:57:42,787
Speaker 24: off the back of the boat and then as the

2182
01:57:43,387 --> 01:57:45,827
Speaker 24: flow of the water rushes past, and then that'll work

2183
01:57:45,867 --> 01:57:48,427
Speaker 24: like a dynamo on a bicycle wheel and actually charge

2184
01:57:48,427 --> 01:57:51,107
Speaker 24: out the batteries that way. And so I was the

2185
01:57:51,147 --> 01:57:55,827
Speaker 24: first sailor to ever do that. In twenty sixteen, so

2186
01:57:56,867 --> 01:57:58,307
Speaker 24: the last time that I did the race, and then

2187
01:57:58,387 --> 01:58:02,227
Speaker 24: this time I doubled down on that principle of again

2188
01:58:02,307 --> 01:58:05,867
Speaker 24: going zero missions with main energy, but then also adopting

2189
01:58:06,467 --> 01:58:10,667
Speaker 24: pliers that were in line with my philosophies, and so

2190
01:58:10,747 --> 01:58:12,827
Speaker 24: I was the only sailor that was fully equipped with

2191
01:58:13,627 --> 01:58:17,667
Speaker 24: sales that can be recycled. And so normally sales are

2192
01:58:18,227 --> 01:58:21,627
Speaker 24: sort of linear. You know, they get built somewhere in

2193
01:58:21,667 --> 01:58:24,507
Speaker 24: the world, shipped to you from a long distance, and

2194
01:58:24,787 --> 01:58:27,667
Speaker 24: you put them, put them up. They are really robust.

2195
01:58:27,747 --> 01:58:29,907
Speaker 24: They survived the riggers of the Southern Ocean, and then

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01:58:30,107 --> 01:58:31,867
Speaker 24: when they can no longer serve on the boat, you've

2197
01:58:31,867 --> 01:58:34,107
Speaker 24: been them. And so this is a technology that allows

2198
01:58:34,627 --> 01:58:37,427
Speaker 24: you to recapture the value of the resources that go

2199
01:58:37,507 --> 01:58:40,267
Speaker 24: into those sales, and so that was really important to me.

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01:58:40,387 --> 01:58:42,507
Speaker 24: And then also the ropes that they had on board

2201
01:58:42,627 --> 01:58:48,507
Speaker 24: were biosourced and so not petrol based. And so basically,

2202
01:58:48,627 --> 01:58:50,707
Speaker 24: you know, if you think about it in terms of emissions,

2203
01:58:50,747 --> 01:58:52,787
Speaker 24: we talk about scope one, Scope two, Scope three, what

2204
01:58:52,947 --> 01:58:55,427
Speaker 24: we produce, what our suppliers produced, and then what our

2205
01:58:55,467 --> 01:59:00,067
Speaker 24: customers produce. And so I was I also drive electric

2206
01:59:00,387 --> 01:59:04,227
Speaker 24: delivery vans from Maxis. I've got an electric bike and

2207
01:59:04,387 --> 01:59:06,307
Speaker 24: that I used to drop my kids off at school.

2208
01:59:06,827 --> 01:59:09,587
Speaker 24: And so I've gone through all of my actions both

2209
01:59:09,747 --> 01:59:13,947
Speaker 24: on land and at sea, to be as coherently possible,

2210
01:59:14,267 --> 01:59:17,147
Speaker 24: to be totally invested in this idea of being charged

2211
01:59:17,147 --> 01:59:18,867
Speaker 24: by the sun outstanding.

2212
01:59:19,547 --> 01:59:20,907
Speaker 3: Have you thought about what it might be like to

2213
01:59:20,987 --> 01:59:23,187
Speaker 3: lead the fleet into Auckland in March of twenty twenty

2214
01:59:23,227 --> 01:59:25,907
Speaker 3: seven to just saying that gives me goosebumps.

2215
01:59:25,907 --> 01:59:26,427
Speaker 9: You know that.

2216
01:59:27,947 --> 01:59:30,707
Speaker 24: I've had the incredible good fortune already in my career

2217
01:59:30,787 --> 01:59:33,787
Speaker 24: to win a race around the world, and that included

2218
01:59:34,387 --> 01:59:38,707
Speaker 24: winning a leg into Wellington, and that was an experience

2219
01:59:38,747 --> 01:59:41,347
Speaker 24: that I held near and dear to my heart. And

2220
01:59:42,867 --> 01:59:45,787
Speaker 24: just the dream of doing that into Auckland and sort

2221
01:59:45,827 --> 01:59:48,427
Speaker 24: of living the same life from two perspectives. You know,

2222
01:59:48,627 --> 01:59:51,947
Speaker 24: I was that sort of young boy in the eighties

2223
01:59:51,947 --> 01:59:55,027
Speaker 24: and nineties with a goofy looking hat and you know,

2224
01:59:55,187 --> 01:59:58,107
Speaker 24: out there walking around the Viadict Harbor looking at all

2225
01:59:58,147 --> 02:00:00,307
Speaker 24: the boats, and you know, with stars in my eyes.

2226
02:00:00,467 --> 02:00:03,387
Speaker 24: And if I have the opportunity in the next coming

2227
02:00:03,507 --> 02:00:07,187
Speaker 24: years to be the you know, the here smelly sailor

2228
02:00:07,227 --> 02:00:09,587
Speaker 24: on the other side of that experience and then you know,

2229
02:00:09,707 --> 02:00:12,507
Speaker 24: look up and inspire the next generation, then absolutely that's

2230
02:00:12,547 --> 02:00:12,747
Speaker 24: the goal.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic and to finish next steps. So here we are

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02:00:16,227 --> 02:00:18,627
Speaker 3: in March of twenty twenty five. We get the feeling

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02:00:18,627 --> 02:00:20,627
Speaker 3: it will roll around fairly quickly the start of twenty

2234
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Speaker 3: twenty seven. I'm not saying there's a heap of time pressure,

2235
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Speaker 3: but what are the next steps for you?

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Speaker 24: Well, the next steps are to fully launch our campaign

2237
02:00:27,987 --> 02:00:30,387
Speaker 24: and so we're doing that now. This is the start

2238
02:00:30,547 --> 02:00:35,027
Speaker 24: of New Zealand's new national national sports team, so out

2239
02:00:35,067 --> 02:00:37,787
Speaker 24: to out ocean racing. As I've said, we want everybody

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Speaker 24: to get on board and in many ways we're hoping

2241
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Speaker 24: to make this more of a grassroots New Zealand based

2242
02:00:46,667 --> 02:00:49,307
Speaker 24: campaign because the America's Cup has got so big and

2243
02:00:50,187 --> 02:00:53,867
Speaker 24: that can't really maintain its connection with New Zealand from

2244
02:00:53,907 --> 02:00:57,907
Speaker 24: what I've seen and obviously went overseas. Now we've got

2245
02:00:57,947 --> 02:01:01,027
Speaker 24: the stop over locked in. We are coming here. We've

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02:01:01,107 --> 02:01:04,947
Speaker 24: got a strong connection with the New Zealand marine industry

2247
02:01:05,347 --> 02:01:09,467
Speaker 24: and sore. We're connecting not only to partners that are

2248
02:01:09,987 --> 02:01:12,547
Speaker 24: in our sector, but also looking for partners that can

2249
02:01:12,587 --> 02:01:15,867
Speaker 24: get involved and want to use our platform to be

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Speaker 24: visible overseas. So it's about creating a coalition of people

2251
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Speaker 24: that are psyched to go ocean racing and can see

2252
02:01:24,827 --> 02:01:27,507
Speaker 24: the power and the value of this team. And so

2253
02:01:27,627 --> 02:01:31,507
Speaker 24: that includes corporate partners that include sailors that can include technicians,

2254
02:01:32,507 --> 02:01:36,307
Speaker 24: and then concretely hopefully that means either building the boat

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Speaker 24: or acquiring a high level existing secondhand one. And then

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02:01:40,707 --> 02:01:43,347
Speaker 24: obviously that means getting sailors over to France where our

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02:01:43,387 --> 02:01:46,587
Speaker 24: technical base is at the moment, and starting to get

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Speaker 24: qus on boats and go fast.

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Speaker 3: Amazing. Conrad has been energizing having you in the studio.

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Speaker 3: I must admit, yeah, I think you have that effect.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine on most people you come into contact with.

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Speaker 3: What a project, what a time it is ahead of you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for popping in. We'll get all your details up

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02:02:00,947 --> 02:02:03,027
Speaker 3: on our socials so people can get in touch if

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Speaker 3: they want to. But thanks for stopping in today.

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Speaker 24: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure stuff Conrad. Conrad Coleman there who is

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Speaker 3: heading up Alto Alto, I'll get it right. Ocean Racing

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Speaker 3: for the Ocean Race which we'll head Auckland during its

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven edition eight Away from Three News Talks Hebb.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

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Speaker 1: on ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pine us Talks Eb.

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Speaker 3: producing the show as per usual, Top work mate. We're

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Speaker 3: back tomorrow night on sports talk. Song to take us

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Speaker 3: out today, while I wanted to kind of celebrate more

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Speaker 3: Waa Pacifica. Really, we spoke to Tanna humung a short

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Speaker 3: time ago and well, his team brings together a bit

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Speaker 3: of a fusion of of Polynesia, Cook Islanders, Tongu and

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Speaker 3: and the early part of the two thousands Nesian Mystic.

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Speaker 3: So that'll take us out today. Congratulations, more Wanna Pacifica

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Speaker 3: more to come from you, I'm sure see tomorrow night

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Speaker 3: five and our.

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Speaker 2: Command by Gasolu.

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Speaker 14: Deathquen Your Soul.

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