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Speaker 1: Digging through the spins spins to find the real story

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Speaker 1: or it's Francesca rud came on here the duper see

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Speaker 1: Ellen Drive with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected and News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Welcome to Drive. I'm Francisco Udkin. Coming up

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Speaker 3: on the show today. Chief Executive Marjie Arper has resigned

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Speaker 3: from Health New Zealand earlier than usual. We get the

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Speaker 3: latest after five. Shortly, former Defense Minister Wayne Mapp joins

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Speaker 3: us to talk about why the New Zealand Defense Force

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Speaker 3: is shockingly low on ammunition and the miler is back

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Speaker 3: for the Commonwealth Games. It's a nostalgic touch, but is

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Speaker 3: it good for our athletes? It is seven past.

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Speaker 2: Four News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: This week another police officer was struck by a vehicle,

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Speaker 3: this time in Huntley. The officer suffered moderate injuries. And

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Speaker 3: it comes after the horrible New Years Day incident in

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Speaker 3: injured after being struck by a vehicle than Nelson Policemnister Mark,

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Speaker 3: You're said on the My Costing Breakfast this warning that

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Speaker 3: police and first responders are increasingly dealing with violence, and

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Speaker 3: and it's good to hear Mitchell alongside Paul Godsmith planning

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Speaker 3: to bring a new legislation enter the House in the

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Speaker 3: first quarter of this year to bring tougher sentencing for

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Speaker 3: violent behavior towards first responders and prison officers. It would

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Speaker 3: have been better if it had been included in Goldsmith's

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Speaker 3: sentencing reforms, which had its first reading in Parliament last September.

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Speaker 3: Those reforms, too, are to ensure criminals face tougher consequences

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Speaker 3: and victims are prioritized. But this new legislation aimed at

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Speaker 3: offenders towards first responders, will not just impose tougher sentences,

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Speaker 3: but will also clearly define emergency service workers and require

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Speaker 3: sentence in sentencing to be cumulative rather than concurrent. It's

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Speaker 3: aimed at being a preventative measure, but something tells me

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Speaker 3: that offenders will get the message through experience rather than media. Headlin, Look,

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Speaker 3: we are it to our first responders to give them

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Speaker 3: us don't have to confront these laws show we as

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Speaker 3: New Zealanders appreciate their work and are prepared to do

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Speaker 3: work to clarify who was a first responder generally thought

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Speaker 3: of as police paramedics in the fire service is extended

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Speaker 3: to hospital emergency staff and even other health workers. The

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Speaker 3: need for this legislation, this growing anger and agitation experienced

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Speaker 3: by many in public facing jobs, especially those in retail,

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Speaker 3: It makes you wonder what has happened to us is

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Speaker 3: they will not tolerate abusive behavior. This is common. Now

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Speaker 3: Is this a post COVID thing? Have we just got

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Speaker 3: more angry at the world? Is it a need to

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Speaker 3: the consequence of anger is often more damaging than what

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Speaker 3: least these tougher laws will achieve this and help bring

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Speaker 3: that back into perspective. Francisca, So where is this lack

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Speaker 3: There was another ghastly story in the news this morning

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Ammunition stocks at the New Zealand Defense Force allegedly got

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Speaker 3: issues have affected ammunition stocks around the world, and one

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Speaker 6: Hello, Francesca, fifty rounds?

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Speaker 3: How likely is it that stock's got that low.

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Speaker 7: I'm pretty skeptical that you've got that low. In fact,

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Speaker 3: Can you just explain to me what is fifty rounds?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's basically, you know, there's six guns in an

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Speaker 7: It's not essentially one training exercise and you're done half

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Speaker 3: What is the lowest our stocks could go?

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Speaker 7: Well, I would actually think it'd have to be in

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Speaker 7: Well, it's also just amount of training. I mean, if

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Speaker 7: there's been some corrective action done on all of this.

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Speaker 7: I can't imagine it's as low as that now, but

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Speaker 3: Why do we use one hundred and five millimeter ammunition

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Speaker 7: Well, bigger armies have bigger formations, they have more depth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense. But then of course we saw

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Speaker 7: I think you need to put it. That would require

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Speaker 7: Well, complimentary roles are actually pretty important for Australian news

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Speaker 3: Wayne Matt, thanks so much for your time, appreciate your

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this new Super Rugby fantasy.

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Speaker 8: How you doing, Jason, I'm good. Thank you Francesca. Very

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Speaker 8: good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Joe Smith's going to step down after the Rugby Championship.

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Speaker 8: Oh look, I think Rugby Australia would obviously, and they've

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Speaker 9: For that new coach.

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Speaker 8: Joe Schmit's a Kiwi. So I wonder whether Leon McDonald

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Speaker 3: That's a good little suggestion there. You should just, you know,

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Speaker 3: but I think they've missed the mark.

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Speaker 9: Look, I've had a look at it today.

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Speaker 8: And actually already when you know, you start building leagues

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Speaker 9: Forward to seeing how my team goes.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 3: When I said they're a bit late, I mean I

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Speaker 13: I think they're concerned about both, to tell you the truth,

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Speaker 2: So you have to kind of find this little sweet.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Who's going to win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 13: I'm going to go with Kansas Actually, I'm I think

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Speaker 13: more people are interested. How many times are they going

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Speaker 13: to cut away when they mentioned the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 13: to show Taylor Swift, who is dating a very prominent

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Speaker 13: person on that team as well. So that's I think

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Speaker 13: that's going to have more eyeballs on this Super Bowl,

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Speaker 13: even though the Kansas City Chiefs are going for their

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Speaker 13: third win here.

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Speaker 3: And I've read that President Trump is going to be there.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, he is. He is one of the reasons

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Speaker 13: after the beefed up security too. They had everything in

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Speaker 13: place until you know, four or five days ago, and

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Speaker 13: then the President said, Hey, I'm going to attend this,

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Speaker 13: and they're said, Okay, we're really going to have to

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Speaker 13: beef up security.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 3: Now the egg black market is on a roll because

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Speaker 3: the police are yet to crack the forty thousand egg

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Speaker 3: theft that took place in Pennsylvania, and you guys have

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Speaker 3: got a national egg shortage and the bird flu outbreak.

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Speaker 2: We do, I got that little pun there.

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Speaker 13: You could also say that you're trying to poach more eggs,

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Speaker 13: but we won't go down that pun. Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 13: one hundred thousand eggs from the back of a trailer

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Speaker 13: in Pennsylvania. So this has become this who done it?

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Speaker 13: That police have yet to crack and eggs. I mean,

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Speaker 13: this sounds like one of those kickers, those funny stories

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Speaker 13: you have on the world wires. But it's become such

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Speaker 13: a huge concern here because, like you said, we've had

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Speaker 13: a huge number of bird flu cases, which means they

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Speaker 13: have killed millions and millions and millions of chickens, and

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Speaker 13: that means no eggs, and so as a result, we've

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Speaker 13: seen prices skyrocket up to sixty percent nine dollars a dozen.

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Speaker 13: Number of restaurants have tacked on, in fact, one just

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Speaker 13: the other day tacked on an egg serves charge. So

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Speaker 13: every time you order a single egg you pay an

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Speaker 13: additional fifty cents, so you know, you get three eggs

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Speaker 13: with your breakfast, and so that's another another dollar fifty

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Speaker 13: that you're having to pay. But the eggs that were stolen,

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Speaker 13: that's they're worth forty fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So it's a felony.

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Speaker 13: And how you're gonna offload this many eggs or where

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Speaker 13: you're gonna offload this many eggs, I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Dan Mitchinson, thank you so much for your time today.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it as always. Now, Winston Peters has hints that

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Speaker 3: the foreign buyer ban may be eased for major investors.

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Speaker 3: So he has indicated that overseas buyers might be allowed

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Speaker 3: to purchase property if they invest significantly in the economy.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna hear more about this from Jason Wolves,

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Speaker 3: who was with us next here on News Talks. He'd

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Speaker 3: be it is sixteen to five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 14: Certaindy, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Now News talks hereb political editor Jason Wolves. How are

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Speaker 3: you doing, Jason?

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Speaker 16: Oh, I'm doing very well.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for a Friday afternoon when most people were

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Speaker 3: really sensible and took four days off and not us.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird day.

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Speaker 16: Last night I was thinking like a Sunday evening vibe,

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Speaker 16: and then coming into work today and now it's Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 16: I don't know what to do with myself.

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Speaker 3: I think today is Tuesday for me. I'm very confused. Hey,

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Speaker 3: local Winston Peters has hints that the foreign buyer band

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Speaker 3: may be eased for major investors.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is quite an interesting story. I mean, if anybody,

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Speaker 16: if you've been following the career of Winston Raymond Peters,

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Speaker 16: which I'm sure a lot of people on this listening

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Speaker 16: to this program have been, he has been quite somewhat against,

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Speaker 16: you know, the foreign buyers coming into New Zealand and

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Speaker 16: snapping up Kiwi Holmes. You only need to look at

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Speaker 16: at the last election when the NATS ran on a

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Speaker 16: policy where they would allow the basically reverse the foreign

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Speaker 16: buyer's band to allow people high net worth individuals to

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Speaker 16: come to New Zealand if they want to buy a home,

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Speaker 16: but it has to be more than two million dollars

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Speaker 16: in their tax the Bejesus out of them, and that

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Speaker 16: would help pay for the tax cup policy that was

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Speaker 16: torpedoed by Winston Peters during at coalition talks. However, listen

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Speaker 16: to his tone and what he's talking about when he

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Speaker 16: was on Hosking this morning, because it appears he's somewhat

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Speaker 16: softening his stance on this one.

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Speaker 17: I was the one that said when National announced in

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Speaker 17: twenty twenty three that they were going to go for

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Speaker 17: the two million dollar house sale numbers, that their figures

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Speaker 17: were massively faulty, but they didn't work and they wouldn't

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Speaker 17: bring the money that they should bring. But if you're

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Speaker 17: talking about and this has always been as you on

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Speaker 17: first time, if somebody is coming to this country like

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Speaker 17: they do to other countries, bringing you fifty million dollars

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Speaker 17: to invest a huge industry into ensure that we've got

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Speaker 17: employment with his nown employment now, potential exports with the

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Speaker 17: exports in area. Now, we will look at it. Certainly

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Speaker 17: that's always been at view.

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Speaker 16: So it's unclear as to when this will happen, but

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Speaker 16: I'll tell you what. In the last week or so,

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Speaker 16: Nikola Willis has been hinting that some new taxes or

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Speaker 16: some tax relief or anything about taxes may be coming

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Speaker 16: in this year's budget. So could it be linked to this?

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Speaker 16: And I'll tell you what. We've got a bit of

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Speaker 16: a clue as to Nicola Willis's thinking on this at

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Speaker 16: the end of last year at the half yearly Bid

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Speaker 16: Fiscal and Economic Update, when she was asked specifically about

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Speaker 16: the foreign buyers ban.

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Speaker 18: Look, I'm going to put my National Party Finance spokesperson

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Speaker 18: hat on because when I am the Finance minister, it's

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Speaker 18: important I always accord with the coalition agreements on a

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Speaker 18: foreign buyers tax. I've made the case. My view is

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Speaker 18: that if there are wealthy people who want to buy

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Speaker 18: extremely expensive luxury homes and pay a pretty sum for

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Speaker 18: the privilege, and we can use that money for better health,

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Speaker 18: better education, then absolutely we should consider that.

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Speaker 3: So watch this space, Jason. We heard the minister there say.

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Speaker 3: We heard when Ston Peter say, you want to bring

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Speaker 3: like fifty million, you've got to create employment where there

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Speaker 3: isn't any and potentially exports with it isn't any Do

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Speaker 3: you have to tick all those three boxes or is

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Speaker 3: it going to be like just took one.

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Speaker 16: Well, I'm not sure at this stage. I mean, Winston

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Speaker 16: Peters is sort of almost making it up on the

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Speaker 16: fly here. I mean he probably has an idea of

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Speaker 16: what it is, and it may be written down somewhere.

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Speaker 16: But listening to that interview, I mean, it could be

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Speaker 16: one of those things, or it could be all of

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Speaker 16: those things. We just don't know yet. But it makes sense,

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Speaker 16: doesn't it. If you've got somebody that is going to

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Speaker 16: create jobs in New Zealand but they can't buy a

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Speaker 16: house here, those things don't really match. And we've heard

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Speaker 16: that both Winston and Nikola will is talking about how

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Speaker 16: important it is to attract that foreign capital. So it

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Speaker 16: seems like the logical next step here.

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Speaker 3: Now the word for twenty twenty five is growth, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Indeed it is. The head of Health New Zealand, Margie

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Speaker 3: Upper has resigned probably about four months before she was Judo.

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Speaker 3: She was judigoing about. To be honest with you, I'm

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Speaker 3: not hugely surprised that she has decided to steep down

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Speaker 3: about now. I make quite surprised she's lasted as long

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Speaker 3: as she is. Where do you sort of sit on this, Jason?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that she was gently nudged out the door?

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Speaker 16: Well, I'm not surprised at all, because last week I

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Speaker 16: received a message from somebody and It was a Seek

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Speaker 16: notification in terms of a job application for Health New

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Speaker 16: Zealand Chief Executive. And the first thing I thought was,

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Speaker 16: hang on a second, isn't that job already occupied by Marjiyappa?

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Speaker 16: And I looked at the job description and sure enough

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Speaker 16: it was an advertisement for the chief Executive of Health

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Speaker 16: New Zealand, which I did think was a bit strange

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Speaker 16: because I didn't think with these big, meaty jobs where

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Speaker 16: you're in charge of thousands of people, they just chuck

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Speaker 16: it up on Seek with all the other jobs out there.

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Speaker 16: But there it was, nonetheless. So I went to Health

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Speaker 16: New Zealand and I said, hang on a second, you've

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Speaker 16: got a CEO. What's going on here? They said, we

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Speaker 16: have begun. We have begun advertising for the Health New

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Speaker 16: Zealand Chief Executive position. As the contract for the current

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Speaker 16: Chief Executive Jappa ends in June twenty twenty five, this

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Speaker 16: appointment will be through an open competitive process and Margie,

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Speaker 16: along with the others others in Health New Zealand managers

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Speaker 16: clinicians with the appropriate background, experience and expertise are all

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Speaker 16: welcome to apply, which I thought was really fishy because,

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Speaker 16: as I said, she was in the Roles. She still

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Speaker 16: had a number of months on her contractor didn't due

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Speaker 16: to expire until June this year. So I went to

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Speaker 16: the Minister's office directly and he said, since being announced

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Speaker 16: as Health Minister, or sorry, somebody from his office said,

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Speaker 16: since being announced as Health Minister, Minister Brown has emphasized

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Speaker 16: the importance of having the right leadership in the healthcare sector.

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Speaker 16: And I thought this was a week ago. I thought,

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Speaker 16: hang on a second, that doesn't sound like somebody that's

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Speaker 16: gearing up to throw their full support behind the current

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Speaker 16: chief executive. So no, not surprised at all. And I'd

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Speaker 16: love to be a fly on the wall in terms

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Speaker 16: of the conversations they've had in terms of her next step,

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Speaker 16: because it's very unusual to resign when you've only got

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Speaker 16: a couple of months left in the top job like this.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how many people are actually queuing up to

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Speaker 3: take on this job. I don't think it's probably a

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Speaker 3: a job that a lot of people are keen to

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Speaker 3: take on at the moment the pie.

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Speaker 16: It might be a bit of a hospital past it.

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Speaker 3: Mike, very good, Jason, Hey, should we get there? Shall

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Speaker 3: we catch up after sex and we'll wrap up the

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Speaker 3: political week.

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Speaker 16: Oh this has been such a lovely chat.

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Speaker 3: Why now whie do it? We shall talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Jason. It was Jason Will's news Talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be political editor and look, we're going to have

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Speaker 3: more on the Maiji Upper situation with our health commentator

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Speaker 3: in pal just after five tonight. It is seven to

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Speaker 3: five news dogs. He'd be.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 19: Back to the Cooks and their big day out in

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Speaker 19: Beijing as they inca deal that seems to suggest China's

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Speaker 19: making major in roads and the Pacific Foreign Minister Winston

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Speaker 19: Peters is what this Are we buying this out of proportion?

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Speaker 19: So they signed a deal with China? So what we

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Speaker 19: do business with China? Is this really an issue?

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Speaker 10: It was an issue to the extent that a lot

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Speaker 10: of the constructions where the Chinese were involved in rebalance

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Speaker 10: simply failed. I raised all this with Swans and Wi

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Speaker 10: and he said, here to get them fixed up.

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Speaker 17: But the reality he is so Cogan.

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Speaker 10: People don't know what's going on, and I am my

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Speaker 10: government are constantion required to ensure we talk for them,

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Speaker 10: to ensure that we on the path and usual taxpayers

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Speaker 10: know exactly what's going on, so that we are a

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Speaker 10: channel division taxpayer.

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Speaker 19: Back Monday from six am, the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 19: the rain driver of the last news talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: So merging all of DHBs into one was never going

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Speaker 3: to be an easy job, was it. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm really interested to sort of hear from our health

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Speaker 3: commentator after news, you know how he feels Margie's tenure

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Speaker 3: has gone, and are also keen to know whether there

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Speaker 3: is an obvious candidate to replace her. I mean when

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Speaker 3: I talk to people who are working in health management

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Speaker 3: or on the front line, I don't think there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of people who were putting their hand up

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Speaker 3: and going, yeah, pick me. I'm going to go in

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Speaker 3: and sort out this problem. So we will be talking

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Speaker 3: to MPAL just after news and sports thought about that

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Speaker 3: and look also sort of mentioned earlier there's been this

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Speaker 3: horrible case of a pedestrian of course should not have

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Speaker 3: been on a motorway, but was on a motorway and

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Speaker 3: was struck overnight, and they were struck by three separate

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Speaker 3: vehicles that all failed to stop. So why is that

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Speaker 3: why we become this nation who seems to think it's

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Speaker 3: perfectly fine to hit somebody and drive on and not stop.

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Speaker 3: We don't know anything about the situation. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it really matters. The behavior says it all, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: So Lance Boudette, he's a former senior police detective. He

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Speaker 3: is going to be with us to see if we

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Speaker 3: can get to the bottom of this behavior and where

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Speaker 3: it's coming from. That is after News and Sport, which

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Speaker 3: is next here on Drive. You're with NEWSTORGSB.

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Speaker 15: Quite so.

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Speaker 12: I get here the girls.

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Speaker 20: We can love of things that we know about.

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Speaker 15: We can go forever.

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Speaker 18: So you loasted it.

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Speaker 1: Out, questions, answers, facts, analysis, the Drive show you trust

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Speaker 1: for the full picture.

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Speaker 2: Franchet, you're right, cap On, Heather Dupless, Ellen Dry. We

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Speaker 2: have one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be good to have you with us. It is

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Speaker 3: six past five now. House New Zealand chief executive Magie

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Speaker 3: Alpha has resigned. Her tenure was meant to end in June,

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Speaker 3: but she says she wants to step down now to

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Speaker 3: make space for new leadership. Margie's relationship with Health Commissioner

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Speaker 3: Lester Levy was reportedly quite fraught and at one point

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Speaker 3: he directly clashed with her over proposal to cut frontline staff.

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand have declined to make anyone available for

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Speaker 3: an interview today. In Powell is a health commentator. Hi En,

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Speaker 3: thanks for your time.

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Speaker 21: It's a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think Nigie is leaving early?

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Speaker 21: I think there was no other option. Really, the situation

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Speaker 21: has become untenable. Health New Zealand, largely through its own design,

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Speaker 21: or rather the design of the health restructuring that led

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Speaker 21: to its formation, which is very clumsy, very poor, but

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Speaker 21: also to its leadership, has gotten into a lot of

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Speaker 21: It has limited credibility within the health workforce and with

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Speaker 21: the wider public, and it also it is quite dysfunctional.

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Speaker 21: And now we have a commissioner that sees things quite differently,

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Speaker 21: or rather as attributing a lot of this to the

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Speaker 21: chief executive. Now some of that is justified and some

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Speaker 21: of that is overstated, but nevertheless, he has bagged her publicly,

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Speaker 21: and he's made it clear that she's willing. She's willing,

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Speaker 21: she's fine to apply for the position when it comes

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Speaker 21: with it's being advertised at the moment, but she won't

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Speaker 21: get it.

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Speaker 3: Does the new Health Minister have anything to do with this,

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Speaker 3: do you think.

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Speaker 21: Probably? I don't know, but probably not. I think this

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Speaker 21: has been shaping up to be to come to a

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Speaker 21: head like this before he was appointed.

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Speaker 3: Is there an obvious candidate to replace her?

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Speaker 21: Well, it's not immediately clear, and I don't want to

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Speaker 21: comment on individuals. There will be Dale Bramley, who is

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Speaker 21: an experienced chief executive of DHV. He's a public health

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Speaker 21: specialist and he's been working for health. He's in Nuty

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Speaker 21: photo Aura since it's a creation in July twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 21: is a logical choice to be the acting chief executive.

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Speaker 21: But other than that, I think I don't want to

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Speaker 21: think second guess that too much. There will be a

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Speaker 21: lot of people on the health system who have a

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Speaker 21: lot of relevant experience who would not touch it with

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Speaker 21: a barge pole because of its it's poor reputation.

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Speaker 3: That's disappointing to hear. Isn't it? Merging all the DHBs

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Speaker 3: into one was never going to be easy, was it?

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Speaker 12: In?

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Speaker 3: How would you rate Margie's tenure then.

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Speaker 21: Oh, that's a difficult question. I've known Margie up for

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Speaker 21: a long time and I've had very high regards for her.

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Speaker 21: I've known her when she was in the Ministry of

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Speaker 21: Health and towards the end of my home representing senior doctors.

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Speaker 21: She became the chief executive County's Monaco DHV, and she

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Speaker 21: was at least initially a breath of fresh year there.

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Speaker 21: I think that she I thought she was a good appointment,

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Speaker 21: but I think she has been over white whelmed by

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Speaker 21: a poorly construct poorly constructed legislation, and she has inherited

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Speaker 21: a system that when you vertically centralize on the way

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Speaker 21: this has been done, it lends itself to a command

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Speaker 21: and controlled culture. I was hoping that she would be

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Speaker 21: able to push back on that, but she hasn't. That

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Speaker 21: she's become part of it. So I'm sad to say

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Speaker 21: that she is not the cause of health Museum strife,

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Speaker 21: but she has not been part of a solution, and

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Speaker 21: she has contributed to that slight at that strife.

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Speaker 3: En Pal, thank you so much for your time today.

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Speaker 3: That was MPAL health commentator Francisca Alice Are appealing to

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Speaker 3: the public after a man died on Auckland's Southwestern Motorway overnight.

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Speaker 3: The victim was struck by three separate vehicles that all

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Speaker 3: failed to stop. Police are asking for drivers passing through

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Speaker 3: the area between one thirty am and two am to

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Speaker 3: come forward, especially those with dash cam footage. Larance Burdette

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Speaker 3: is a former senior police detective and he is with

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Speaker 3: me now. Good evening, Lance, thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: What is your reaction to three vehicles failing to stop?

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Speaker 15: It's quite unusual to be to be frank, I have

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Speaker 15: been involved in the investigations where one vehicle is a

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Speaker 15: but not three, And basically I got it down to

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Speaker 15: panic of those drivers that have that have struck some

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Speaker 15: when you don't expect it on the motorway, but when

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Speaker 15: it happens, we are bound to stop. However, in the

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Speaker 15: heat of the moment when fight or flight kicks in,

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Speaker 15: so fight will click and if we feel somebody is

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Speaker 15: threatening us, but if we do something, then flight tends

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Speaker 15: to kick in and we panic and obviously run away.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a pretty serious offense failing to stop,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it is, and people in the heat of the

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Speaker 15: moment don't stop about to see the consequences. And again,

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Speaker 15: going back to previous interviews I've done with with you know,

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Speaker 15: not so much here, but certainly with criminals, they don't

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Speaker 15: see the consequences of their actions. It's just the excitement

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Speaker 15: of the of the actual hunt. If you like of

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Speaker 15: doing it, you're doing it. So they don't think about,

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Speaker 15: you know, I could go to jail for this, or

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Speaker 15: you know, oh goodness me, there's somebody you know, it's

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Speaker 15: a tragedy. You can only guess. It's to reminds us

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Speaker 15: of why the person was on the motorway. It's a

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Speaker 15: car hasn't been found, so cann't appear the person's come

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Speaker 15: from a breakdown of a vehicle.

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Speaker 3: Sance is three there. If the police know that three

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Speaker 3: vehicles hit the pedestrian, would they have video footage of

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Speaker 3: that from a camera or are they able to tell

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Speaker 3: that from the victim?

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Speaker 15: There would be a number of other forensics would be yet, yes,

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Speaker 15: I'm victim down on the vehicle for a start, But

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Speaker 15: there are a massive cameras on all of the motorways

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Speaker 15: and they are high definition cameras. So I'm quite confident

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Speaker 15: that at least one or two or all three will

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Speaker 15: be soon discovered those vehicles, because yeah, it is good

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Speaker 15: high quality footage they've got.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's good to hear people becoming more brashan vehicles.

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Speaker 3: Do you think because our toler it's intolerance on the

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Speaker 3: road troubling.

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Speaker 15: Yes, it's it's a phenomenon. It's been global and it's

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Speaker 15: been going on for about two and a half years.

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Speaker 15: It's it's it comes to believe it, out of lockdown.

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Speaker 15: Vehicles have been used as weapons, as we can saying

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Speaker 15: the police, to assault police, and you know, heaven, we've

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Speaker 15: seen it to kill police, driving vehicles into crowds, pedestrians.

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Speaker 15: It's it's what those phenomena, it's it's going global, and

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Speaker 15: you know, I'm not sure how we're going to combat it.

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Speaker 15: I think a tougher penalty might go some way. But

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Speaker 15: as I say, in the heat of the moment, when

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Speaker 15: things happen, people don't stop to think about the consequences

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Speaker 15: of their actions. So I think just a bit more

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Speaker 15: understanding of when you're driving that you are driving a

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Speaker 15: vehicle and you've got a responsibility.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of people would stop lanes.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Even even in shock and horror, what might have happened

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Speaker 3: and what has a lot.

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Speaker 15: Of people absolutely that's a freeze.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 15: I've had something that really horrible happens to us, we

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Speaker 15: go into freeze and we will stop. But if we

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Speaker 15: have some sort of again, I can only go off

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Speaker 15: the work I do now, And also people I've interviewed,

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Speaker 15: if it's an absolute shock and horror, we will stop,

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Speaker 15: and the brain basically shuts down and says, I don't know,

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Speaker 15: just stop. And that's that freeze part that we don't

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Speaker 15: talk about often. But if they're in some sort of

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Speaker 15: common sense of I've had a person, what's going to

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Speaker 15: happen to me? I don't know? Flee and again how

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Speaker 15: far apart with these vehicles where they all together. But

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Speaker 15: it's a horrific thing to think that you wouldn't stop.

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Speaker 15: I can't understand it myself, but I'm only trying to

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Speaker 15: explain this best I can.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that because I think many of us are

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Speaker 3: ably appalled by this news, and of course our thoughts

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Speaker 3: with the victim's family and friends and things. I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of us have been horrified by this story.

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Speaker 3: So thank you Lance for trying to put it into

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Speaker 3: some perce inspective for us. Lance Burdette is a former

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Speaker 3: senior police detective. Thank you very much for your text

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Speaker 3: as well. Someone has suggested it could be a truck

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Speaker 3: and trailer that made it appear like three separate vehicles.

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Speaker 3: Another person said, I think I would know if I

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Speaker 3: hit something on the road with my car. I think

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Speaker 3: the person should have contacted the police if they did

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Speaker 3: it or not the person was hit by three vehicles.

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Speaker 3: If the driver was on the motorway at that time

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Speaker 3: of the morning, then you should ring in because you

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Speaker 3: were in the area and chances are that it wasn't

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Speaker 3: even you. You know, assisted the police do the right thing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your text. You can text anytime throughout

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Speaker 3: the show. On ninety two ninety two, it is fifteen

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Speaker 3: past seven. You're with NEWSTALGSIRB NEWSTALGSB eighteen past five. Metal

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Speaker 3: events for the twenty twenty six come Wealth Games have

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Speaker 3: The fifteen hundred meter race will be replaced by a

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Speaker 3: returning event, the Commonwealth Mile. The mile was last run

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Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty six, where we had two keepers compete.

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Speaker 3: Athletics New Zealand CEO camp Mitchell is worth me now,

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Speaker 3: how are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Cam Good Francisco?

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Speaker 3: Is the mile a gimmick or are you keen for

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Speaker 3: it to replace the fifteen hundred meters going forward.

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Speaker 5: Oh, look, in terms of this game, it's a nice

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Speaker 5: little variation, isn't it. The mile is still quite popular

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Speaker 5: and run quite a lot around different events. We just

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Speaker 5: had our Mile Championship the other weekend at the Cook's

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Speaker 5: Garden in Wanganui. Obviously New Zealand has an amazing heritage

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Speaker 5: and history with the mile with Snell and Walker. We've

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Speaker 5: got some great milers with Sam Tana, Myra Amst and

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Speaker 5: Jody Beamish Kimberly May. So it's a nice little change up,

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Speaker 5: I guess. But whether that's something that Wood Athletics adopts,

874
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 5: I would doubt it. But certainly the mile is a

875
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 5: very popular event and remains a focus on a number

876
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: of different athletics events around the globe.

877
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: What difference can that extra one hundred and nine meters

878
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: make for the athletes? Doesn't make any difference.

879
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 5: Look, most athletes will prepare almost identical lead to a

880
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 5: fifteen hundred meters and a mile, so there's not a

881
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 5: lot of difference. And I guess the critical difference is

882
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 5: at the start, so you know, the mile starts a

883
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 5: little bit behind the traditional four hundred meters start light

884
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 5: and way one hundred meters start line, and there's a

885
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 5: merge on the bend rather than merge on the straight,

886
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: which is where the fifteen hundred meters starts. So there

887
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: can be a slightly high risk of tripping. But you know,

888
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: in terms of application and the preparation for the athletes,

889
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: they're pretty much identical. It doesn't make too much difference.

890
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 5: And a lot of the best milers are also the

891
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 5: best fifteen hundred meters, and as I said, we've got

892
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 5: a few of those at the moment, which is great.

893
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: Who actually holds down his Ellen record for a mile?

894
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 5: It's a good question.

895
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 14: I'm not quite sure.

896
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm shying that. I'm sing that at.

897
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 5: He probably walker so walking around the first sub three

898
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 5: point fifty And obviously Snell ran the first four minute

899
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: mile long grass in Wanganui in the sixties. So as

900
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: I said, we've got a great a great history. I mean,

901
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: Sam Tana is running very quick at the moment. He

902
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: did a three fifty five over long. And know a

903
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago and you may have seen the

904
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Speaker 5: news with world sensation Sam Ruth, who's a fifteen year

905
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 5: old who's very close, running under four minutes and as

906
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Speaker 5: the fastest fifteen year old in the world over that distance,

907
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 5: so you know he's one to watch as well. We've

908
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 5: got a lot of great athletes and my Ramsden obviously

909
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 5: at the Olympics. She's a young up and coming athlete,

910
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 5: and Joey Beamish won the fifteen hundred meters at the

911
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 5: World Indoors, so you know there's lots of good talent

912
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 5: there in that particular sort of distance.

913
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: So we definitely you know, there's the potential that we're

914
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: going to have Kis lining up to do the Mylett

915
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: in Glasgow. There's another new event, a mixed four by

916
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: four hundred meter relay. How likely are we to see

917
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: quy athletes competing in that race.

918
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 5: Look, we've had individual four x fours in the past,

919
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: so the potential is definitely there. We've got a really

920
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: great four hundred meter runner at the moment, Lex revel

921
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: Lewis and Tommy Taperni and they're actually going head to

922
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 5: head for the New Zealand four hundred meter record at

923
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 5: a free event we have on Sunday four to six

924
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: pm at Trust Arena called the Sir Gram Douglas Internationals.

925
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 5: So you know, there's a number of good four hundred meters,

926
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: but I guess selection really depends on the quota available

927
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 5: to athletics and also to New Zealand at the game,

928
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: So it would sit depending on where I guess how

929
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 5: higher ranked athletes are based and as I say, the

930
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 5: selection process that sit around that.

931
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: And of course we've seen the come work games. They're

932
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: not done twenty sports down to ten. Obviously athletics and

933
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: power athletics is in there. Are you happy with the

934
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: mix they've got?

935
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I mean it's obviously there's a reduction and

936
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 5: metal opportunities for New Zealand, but it hasn't really impacted

937
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 5: athletics in many ways. We've actually gained because there's an

938
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: increase in power events and as you know, we're very

939
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: strong in the power space and has sort of done

940
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: a great job in that area. The only real impact

941
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 5: for us is a loss of outer STATEA events, so

942
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 5: there's no marathon and some of the long walks are

943
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 5: no longer part of the Games, which is a shame

944
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 5: for those athletes, But we still get the full complement

945
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: of in state are events and you know, arguably that's

946
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 5: where a lot of our strongest athletes. So you know

947
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: the pol Wolders, James Kerr and Grimaldi, you know Tom

948
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 5: Jacko and many others.

949
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Mitchell, thank you so much for your time. Really

950
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: nice to talk to you and enjoying your weekend. That

951
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: was Athletics New Zealand CEO Cam Mitchell. It's twenty three

952
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: past five, recamping.

953
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: The day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's Francesca

954
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: rudcap On, Heather Dupless Allen drive with.

955
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: One New Zealand. Let's get connected news talk.

956
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 3: They'd be good to have you with us. I think

957
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: it was interesting talking to Lance Burdette there, who also said,

958
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't quite understand the behavior that we

959
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: saw around the pedestrian who was tragically killed on Auckland's

960
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: Southwestern Motorway overnight. Look, there's a lot of information we

961
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 3: don't know, but still the fact that three people, three

962
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: separate cars were involved and no one stopped is really concerning.

963
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: I have.

964
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: I think people's attention or attitude to driving is definitely changing,

965
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: and I've noticed this more and more at pedestrian I

966
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: never take a pedestrian crossing for granted. Ever, I'm a

967
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: person that likes to walk and run in the early mornings.

968
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: Often the sun is up, it is very light. I

969
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: see people cruising through the crossing completely oblivious to the

970
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 3: fact that I'm standing there waiting to cross. Often they're

971
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: actually on their phones, which just seems nuts, Like you know,

972
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: you're approaching a pedestrian crossing and you're on your phone. Look,

973
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: sometimes there's sun strike, and if there is, I'm aware

974
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: of that, and I give people, you know, the benefit

975
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: of the doubt and check that there. Sometimes you're looking

976
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: in the car and you can tell that the driver

977
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: is trying not to catch your eye. They can see

978
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: you there and they're going, I'm just going to pretend

979
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: you're not there, and I can't see you when they

980
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: drive through. So I think just overall we're just our

981
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: approach and our attitude to driving is changing. And I

982
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: mean this is an extreme example of it. Maybe just

983
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: you know, day to day we all just need to

984
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: take a moment and check our behavior a little bit. There,

985
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: I have it a twenty seven past five headlines are next.

986
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: Hell Informed Inside into today's issues. It's Francesca rudgab On

987
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: hither Dupless Alan Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected,

988
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: news talk, say'd best cards, kiss.

989
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your text this hour. A

990
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: few on the old pedestrian crossings, someone said, high pedestrian crossings,

991
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: it's all about the diamond painted on the road fifty

992
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: meters either side. If the car is behind the diamond,

993
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: you can cross. If the car has crossed the diamond,

994
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: you may not cross, you dummy. Thank you very much

995
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: for the text. Was really good until the end, but

996
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't think we really needed to throw that, and

997
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: you know, but thank you very much. Also, i'd like

998
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: to say about pedestrian crossings, if it has an island

999
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: in the middle and you are approaching and someone is

1000
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: stepping out on the right hand side of the road,

1001
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: you are actually allowed to keep driving through as long

1002
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: as unless they have actually reached that little island in

1003
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: the middle. So there's that as well. But no, thank

1004
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: you very much for that. I am aware of that,

1005
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: and I do keep an eye on the diamond. But

1006
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: people are still driving through the pedestrian crossings. Some Debbie

1007
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: Texas A I never automatically think a car driver will

1008
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: stop for me. I always wait till I see them stopping.

1009
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: Then as I begin to cross the road, I give

1010
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: the way the driver a hand signal to say thank you.

1011
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: It's like completing a contract. Too many people take things

1012
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: for granted it and grossed in their cell phones. Debbie,

1013
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 3: I love the handwave. How easy is it just to

1014
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: go thanks? I'm big on that. And I'm also big

1015
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: on the flashing the hazard lights or waving when you

1016
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: let somebody in on traffic. I think, and I think

1017
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: we're quite good at letting people in, but you've got

1018
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: to be polite about it. I completely agree. Now, if

1019
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: you are driving around central Auckland at any point over

1020
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 3: the last well many years, you've probably been thinking to yourself,

1021
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: when is the sky City International Convention Center going to

1022
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: open and we can get rid of all these roadworks

1023
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: and the other issues that the construction has caused. Well,

1024
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: an opening date has been set. It is a delayed

1025
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: opening date though it is now set for February twenty

1026
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: twenty six, So after six Callum Mallett, who is sky

1027
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: City's Chief operating officer, he's going to be with us

1028
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: to talk about this latest delay and hopefully getting this

1029
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: this convention center open as soon as possible.

1030
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with new Zealand southebeast, international realty,

1031
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

1032
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 20: Not The big event of the games was, of course,

1033
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 20: the mail, and I Banister begins. It's finishing first one

1034
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 20: hundred yards, still the line and he's passing, landing.

1035
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 14: This is a moment of the crowd I waited for.

1036
00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: Just look at him.

1037
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 14: The miracle mile, the mile.

1038
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 20: Of the century, such was banished as sensational victory comes

1039
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 20: now missing his own world record my half a second

1040
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 20: times at three minutes fifty four and nine tenth second,

1041
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 20: we've got the fastest mile.

1042
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: Ever run in the America.

1043
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: Goodness, may I don't think our commentators quite sound like that.

1044
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: We're going to be talking about the mile here on

1045
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: sports Huddle. Joining me, I've got Andrew Alderson news books.

1046
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: He'd be sports reader, how I Andrew.

1047
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 14: Welcome, greetings Francesca and Paul Alison.

1048
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: Well, oh god, good, Sorry I shouldn't. I'm interested.

1049
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 5: I knew you would be.

1050
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: And Paul Allison's record commentators all say with us, Hi, Paul, okay.

1051
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: So Super Rugby has launched its fantasy league today. I

1052
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: think it's fantastic. I think it's great for engagement. I

1053
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 3: think there are a couple of years too late. All

1054
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: the kids I know and the young the young people

1055
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: I know are all obsessed with the NRAL Fantasy League,

1056
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: which comes with an app. Are you excited about it, Andrew,

1057
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: And how do you feel about I mean, there's a

1058
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: lot of players involved, just a few that weren't, including

1059
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: Caleb Clark.

1060
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 7: Oh.

1061
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 22: Look great for the next generation and bringing people to

1062
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 22: the game. I'm more curmudgeonly about it. It's not really

1063
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 22: my scene on the Fantasy League, but I appreciate the

1064
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 22: people that are. I thought it would have come with

1065
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 22: an app though in the modern modern environment, I thought

1066
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 22: there would be absolutely mandatory necessity if you like. But

1067
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 22: I don't have a problem either with the likes of

1068
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 22: Caleb Clark and what three others are stepping away, opting

1069
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 22: out of it, presumably on the belief's grounds. I mean,

1070
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 22: I think they've got four and twenty others or so

1071
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 22: who have signed up, and I'm sure that people keep

1072
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 22: people entertained away from the game.

1073
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: Seems to be plenty enough players involved, Paul, Yeah, there is.

1074
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 14: I mean, it's just step in the right direction.

1075
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 23: It's not the finished product just yet, but I think

1076
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 23: it's all about fan engagement. As you mentioned right at

1077
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 23: the start, it happens in other sports likes of AFL

1078
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 23: and the NBA, in the NFL and the Hockey League,

1079
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 23: even the PGA and the tennis and the Formula One's

1080
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 23: got it, and it's happened in rugby six Nations and

1081
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 23: Rugby World Cup.

1082
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 14: But maybe we're a little bit slow down here to

1083
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 14: get it underway. But it's under It is underway.

1084
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 23: It's not going to be the full product with the

1085
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 23: app yet, but I think it will attract that younger

1086
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 23: fan engagement area, which is what they're looking for, and

1087
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Speaker 23: making sure that people have a bit of fun early on.

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00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 23: And there's probably some prizes of match tickets and signed

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00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 23: jerseys to win on the way through.

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Speaker 3: Good on, Oh chuck, a bit of merchant ify won't

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00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 3: get involved. Yeah, a new NURL franchise wants to launch

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00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: in Auckland. Is this serious story, Andrew? Or is this

1093
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: bit of a joke?

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00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 7: Sorry?

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00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 22: I know, I know, I just I did struggle with it.

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 22: So I thought it's just so obviously sort of eating

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00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 22: into the Warriors market which is already there.

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00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: Is it just naturally place working?

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00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 22: Yes, you know how much disposed how people got through

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 22: all these different sports. I mean, you've already got been

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00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 22: talked about over the years, the Wellington option, the crow

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00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 22: options for another NRL franchise.

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Speaker 5: I was quite.

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00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 22: Surprised that that Wayne Brown put a support behind it

1106
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 22: him and with it. I mean, I'd love to see

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00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 22: how the business model would stand up for that, but

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 22: I yeah, it's I just think the Warriors are doing

1109
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 22: a great job as it is.

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Speaker 14: How many days is there? It allway pril one, because

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00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 14: that's what I thought it was when I heard this

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Speaker 14: come through.

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Speaker 23: I mean, I think New Zealand is crying out for

1114
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 23: a second team in the league, and with a bid

1115
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 23: from christ Church being a very strong one, but they're

1116
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 23: up against other areas around Australia and Papua New Guinea

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00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 23: and the like, and so I think trying to split

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00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 23: the adam in Auckland is not a clever move at

1119
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 23: the stage. I mean, isn't it better getting behind one

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Speaker 23: where you've got a population based in christ Church which

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00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 23: hasn't got it's been starved to rugby league.

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00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 14: It's been a reasonable strong hotbed of rugby league over

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Speaker 14: the years.

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Speaker 23: Not because I live in the South Island, but just

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00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 23: because you actually want a little bit of geographical difference

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00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 23: between them and be.

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Speaker 14: Able to get a supporter base as well.

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Speaker 23: So I was really surprised to see this one come through,

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00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 23: to be fair, and the fact that it's like maybe

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00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 23: home based Eden.

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00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: Park, and also the name Mana Pacifica it's a bit

1132
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: too It might start getting confusing, mightn't it.

1133
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 23: With Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely so I think it's a

1134
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 23: long shot. It's not when I go and ring up

1135
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 23: the bank manager and try and get some money to

1136
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 23: put on the mortgage on it, because I'm not quite

1137
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 23: sure whether this one will come to land, but who knows.

1138
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 23: It's something to speculate and talk about, and I think

1139
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 23: it just does build a little bit of momentum about

1140
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 23: trying to get interest in another team somewhere in New Zealand.

1141
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I get it. We're looking at the

1142
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 3: success of Auckland FC. You see the success of the Warriors,

1143
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: You're going right, brilliant, surely there's room for another one.

1144
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: But I just think then you and look, we'd all

1145
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: love to see more league games taking place here in

1146
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 3: New Zealand. So there's that. But yeah, I think everything's

1147
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: going going swimmingly it's not broken. Let's just not add

1148
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: anything out to the mix here.

1149
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: Well.

1150
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 3: Jordan, however, has some interesting ideas about how he would

1151
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: like Super Rugby to bring in a draft. Would this work?

1152
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: Andrew, look, I think it can and I'm all for

1153
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: a draft.

1154
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 22: Mean you look at how successfully it's done, you know,

1155
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 22: America in particular in any four NBA, MLB, NHL. I mean,

1156
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 22: and like any competition that's I guess matured properly, a

1157
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 22: draft seems to work. Slight Cavat, I think given the

1158
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 22: development of players in the Super Rugby franchises right from grassroots,

1159
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 22: et cetera, you would need some form of fee paid

1160
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 22: trips for the development of those players. But it could

1161
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 22: also balance out the competition. And equally, I mean, it

1162
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 22: also raises the all blacks eligibility issue again as well.

1163
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 22: And you see the success of it players playing away

1164
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 22: with the SAfrica over the last couple of World Cup campaigns,

1165
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 22: winning them and times will be turning here. So maybe

1166
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 22: you know, we've seen exceptions with sabbaticals, et cetera, so

1167
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 22: maybe that's something to consider as part of it as well.

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00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 14: But I could say it because it's a it's a

1169
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 14: spectacle itself. Yeah, I think it might be sort of

1170
00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 14: You've got to be careful.

1171
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 23: I think there's a few sharks in the shark infested

1172
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 23: waters if you dive too deeply into it.

1173
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Speaker 14: I get the idea of it.

1174
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 23: I get the idea of the spreading the talent base.

1175
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 23: But again I think Andrew brings up a really good

1176
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 23: point about young talent. There's a lot of these clubs now,

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Speaker 23: particularly in Super Rugby, that are trying to retain and

1178
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 23: develop their own people and their own regions. Put them

1179
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 23: through the development and if you then have a development

1180
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 23: fee away, you could actually lose them for the rest

1181
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 23: of their career, Whereas really what you're trying to do

1182
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 23: is build that provincial and regional pride in certain areas,

1183
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 23: and so I think that's important. The fact that Will

1184
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 23: Jordan said it really surprised me to some degree because

1185
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 23: he's an outstanding rugby play He grew up in the

1186
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 23: Crusaders region and he's been played all as rugby the

1187
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 23: I don't think he'll be putting his own hand up

1188
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 23: to be put into the draft.

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't imagine. But you know, maybe you've.

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Speaker 23: Got the stage where you say, okay, you picked twenty

1191
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 23: players first. Each each franchise or each club picks their

1192
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 23: twenty players and what's left over.

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 14: As long as there's some sort of criteria, you need

1194
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 14: to be really careful with it before you go too

1195
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 14: wide with it.

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Speaker 23: And I think again just come back to my earlier

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00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 23: point about retaining and developing young talent that is homegrown

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00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 23: is really important. And I'm saying that, I guess with

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00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 23: a slight eye patch on from being from the Deep

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00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 23: South because a lot of the players that come through

1201
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 23: from Otago and Southland and North Otago and that highland

1202
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 23: this region, we wouldn't like them being whistled away.

1203
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 14: And if they do go offshore and play in Australia

1204
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 14: and maybe even things up.

1205
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 23: Although this year's the Australian Super Rugby competition I think

1206
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 23: will be stronger because they've only got four teams and

1207
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 23: not five, it'll probably be the guys that aren't really

1208
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 23: the heavyweights and the marquee players from New Zealand rugby

1209
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 23: and that are in contention for All Black selection that

1210
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 23: would probably head off shore anyhow.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Ordison, Paul Allison and my guests on the sports

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Speaker 3: Huddle this evening just hold on from gentlemen, we'll be

1213
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Speaker 3: back in one moment.

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Speaker 1: It is fourteen to six the Friday Sports Huddle with

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southby's International Realty Elevate the marketing of your Home.

1216
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Speaker 3: Andrew Ordison and Paul Allison and my guests on the

1217
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Speaker 3: sports Huddle today. Okay, so put your hand up if

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00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: you remember the last time that the fifteen hundred meter

1219
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: mile sorry was run at the Cornwell Games.

1220
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Speaker 24: Fly Down.

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, nineteen sixty six. It was Francisco.

1222
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 23: And I guess it's like everything else with the Imperial

1223
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 23: measurements are going out and the metrics coming in, but

1224
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Speaker 23: the fact that it's coming back into Glasgow, I'm actually

1225
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 23: really quite excited about that because.

1226
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 14: It's still an event that has that little bit of mystique.

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 23: I mean we've had New Zealanders over the years, with

1228
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 23: Jack Lovelock winning it in London nineteen thirty and sixty three.

1229
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 23: Since then, Nick Willis won up in twenty six to fifteen,

1230
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 23: On Walker's got a couple of seconds and Dick Quax

1231
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 23: has been in there has got a second as well.

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Speaker 14: I mean it's been.

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01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 23: An event where we have been really successful as a country.

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01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 23: The fifteen hundred meters on the world stage. Now, the

1235
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 23: fact that it's going back to the mile, I think

1236
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 23: there's just a little bit of glamour around this. And

1237
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 23: wouldn't it be fantastic because we've got one of the

1238
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 23: youngest most promising athletes we've probably ever produced, who's fifteen years.

1239
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 14: Of age at the moment.

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 23: His name is Sam Ruth and he's just broken the

1241
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 23: world record for the mile for his age group. He's

1242
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 23: run four zero one. He won the New Zealand Senior

1243
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 23: three thousand meters last week. He'll be seventeen when the

1244
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 23: Games come around. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see him

1245
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 23: in there? And I think this is good because the

1246
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 23: Commonwealth Games are on life support. They got too big,

1247
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 23: they're unwieldy that they really can't sustain where they're at.

1248
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 23: They've gone from twelve hundred competitors in nineteen seventy four

1249
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 23: to five thousand and fifty competitors in twenty twenty two.

1250
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 23: So they've scaled it back and doing something a little

1251
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 23: bit different I think is really great.

1252
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 3: And no, Paul, you're kind of winning me over because

1253
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: when I first heard about this, Andro, I just sort

1254
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 3: of thought, well, why this just feels a bit nostal drink.

1255
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: And you know, I understand that they were sort of

1256
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: trying to separate themselves out and make themselves look a

1257
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: little bit more interesting than other games and things. But

1258
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 3: actually I'm kind of buying into this.

1259
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 22: Yeah, look, I iced to throw back to the past,

1260
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 22: but I, like Taul says, I think col games I

1261
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 22: need to offer a port of difference these days or

1262
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 22: they're going to risk extinction in the sort of post

1263
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 22: empire era, if you like.

1264
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: And the New Zealand's com peditory, as Paul mentioned, and.

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 22: If you think about you know, and they're playing on

1266
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 22: the fact of the miracle while that John Landy and

1267
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 22: Roger Bannister Bannster winning in fifty four Vancouver, of course,

1268
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 22: and they were the only two sub formut miles in

1269
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 22: the world at that stage. It's just certainly has that

1270
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 22: legacy attached to it. And yeah, if you have that

1271
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 22: boort a difference, it might help for sure, given that

1272
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 22: they need all the help that they can get at

1273
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 22: the moment to keep that going.

1274
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 3: And look, it looks like a sprint to me when

1275
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: people run the fifteen hundred meters. If you're just going

1276
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: to add another one hundred meters on. You know, you

1277
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: can probably manage that, can't you? One hundred one hundred

1278
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: and nine meters go on? Then you know it's not

1279
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:32,479
Speaker 3: so abs.

1280
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Speaker 23: It's got two They got the twenty sports at the

1281
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 23: last games. No one wants to hold it because of

1282
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 23: the cost. They've scaled it back to ten sports and

1283
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 23: they've brought it back to you know, under two hundred events.

1284
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 23: And I think that's fantastic because if you're going to

1285
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 23: keep it alive in some form, make it relevant and

1286
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 23: make it affordable.

1287
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 14: And so let's see what happens in Glasgow.

1288
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Schmidt is going to step down Paul at

1289
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 3: the end of the Rugby Championship. Is this a big

1290
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 3: loss for the Wallabies?

1291
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 14: Oh, a huge loss for the Wallabies.

1292
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 23: I mean he's really started to write the ship to

1293
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 23: some degree after Michael Checker and Dave Rennie and Eddie

1294
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 23: Jones all went through the rotating turnstile and he's actually

1295
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 23: got some stability there. I mean he used forty seven

1296
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 23: players in the thirteen tests last year, but his win

1297
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 23: loss record was almost fifty to fifty. They beat England

1298
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 23: the very close to betting the All Blacks in Ireland

1299
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 23: and Australian Rugby are doing everything I understand to be

1300
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 23: able to keep him. He's extended his contract from what

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 23: was going to end up in August two. Do they

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Speaker 23: play against the All Blacks in Perth in the beginning

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Speaker 23: of October. He may still have some support role, but

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Speaker 23: he wants to spend more time at home with his family. Totally,

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Speaker 23: totally understandable. But he'll be a huge loss for Australian rugby.

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Speaker 3: He will, won't he Andrew?

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Speaker 22: Oh, sure well, and he started to put those building

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Speaker 22: blocks in place and jeez, they needed them, but in

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Speaker 22: Australian rugby, and I think he buys them some time.

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Speaker 22: So if he goes to the end of this year

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Speaker 22: to be able to put someone in place for the

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Speaker 22: next two seasons to the end of the World Cup,

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Speaker 22: but you know, fifth coach in six years are they're

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Speaker 22: going to have now? And again you run the risk

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Speaker 22: of that instability taking place. But I mean, even in

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Speaker 22: moving into the role, always with the condition of family

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Speaker 22: wealthy for Joe Schmid, he was open about that, so

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Speaker 22: I think a son with epilepsy and full marks to

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Speaker 22: him for putting.

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Speaker 3: That first really quickly. Paul, I'm making a bit of

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Speaker 3: presumption here that probably neither of you have ever done

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Speaker 3: the coast to coast.

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Speaker 23: I haven't done the coast of toast's done a bit

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Speaker 23: of running in my day, and and probably not over

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Speaker 23: the goat track that they have over goats pasted.

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Speaker 14: No, I haven't done it.

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Speaker 22: Would I do it?

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Speaker 14: Probably not? How would I get on.

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Speaker 23: I'll be okay on the run, a battle on the

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Speaker 23: bike and probably fall out in the water and the paddle.

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Speaker 23: But I spoke to Ben Smith over dinner on Wednesday

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Speaker 23: night and I said to him, if you ever do it,

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Speaker 23: I'll be part of your support crew.

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Speaker 14: So there's my hand up. But I won't be doing

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Speaker 14: it myself.

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Speaker 3: Oh look, I'd be part of your support support crew.

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Speaker 22: Andrew, look, co pops your opinion that I have actually

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Speaker 22: done a coast to coast, But I need a member

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Speaker 22: of the I a member of the media, and it was.

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Speaker 14: I can assure you that the tale when going downhill

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Speaker 14: there was that.

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Speaker 22: There was a helicopter evolved actually the mountain run and

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Speaker 22: landed on the rocks and it was a bit like

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Speaker 22: that scene out of Mash at the start of Mash,

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Speaker 22: you know when they get out of the chopper and

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Speaker 22: you're heading out onto the mountain run.

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Speaker 14: There is to capture some of the scenes.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome entertainment.

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Speaker 22: I can assure you that it was the last of

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Speaker 22: the Robin Judkins here. I think spec got twenty eleven

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Speaker 22: or so. Anyway, I highly recommend it. I'm not actually

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Speaker 22: putting the gear on.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Ortison and Paul Paul Allison. Thank you both very

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Speaker 3: much for your time. It is six to six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duple See Allan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 16: Hey, good on you.

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Speaker 3: If you are competing in the coast to coast at

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Speaker 3: the moment this weekend. It is an epic, epic journey.

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Speaker 3: I'd just like to send a shout out to my

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Speaker 3: good mate Jackie Blake, who's doing it for the second

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Speaker 3: year in a row. I think it must be a

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Speaker 3: little bit like giving birth, because I'm pretty sure last

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Speaker 3: year when she did it was she was exhausted and

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Speaker 3: she thought the whole thing was slightly horrific and everything.

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Speaker 3: But my goodness, she's forgotten about that and she is

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Speaker 3: back and she's in there again. So look to everybody

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Speaker 3: who was doing it, and also to all those support cruise.

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Speaker 3: We were laughing a little bit there about the support cruise,

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Speaker 3: but they do play such an important role, and you know,

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Speaker 3: good on you all for getting involved. Coming up next hour,

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Speaker 3: we're going to find out why the sky City International

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Speaker 3: Convention Center the opening has been delayed again. And Jason

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Speaker 3: Walls is with us and he is going to wrap

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Speaker 3: up the week end politics. You're with Drive, You're just lam.

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Speaker 1: We're Business meets Insight, the Business Hour with Francesca Rudgeon

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Speaker 1: and May's Insurance and Investments, Grow.

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Speaker 2: Your Wealth, Protect your future News talks at be.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you with us. It is seven past six.

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Speaker 3: Coming up this hour, we have Peter Lewis, our Asia

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Speaker 3: business correspondent with us. He is going to talk about

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Speaker 3: China and their relate their action for retaileratory action. We'll

1383
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Speaker 3: get that one out before the end of the hour

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Speaker 3: as Trump's tariffs take effect, so we'll be taking a

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Speaker 3: look at the impact on China there. And also Jason

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Speaker 3: Wolfs is with us. Of course he's going to be

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Speaker 3: taking a look back in the week in politics and

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Speaker 3: a big week up at white Tongey. I think it

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Speaker 3: all went kind of as we expected it would, but

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Speaker 3: we are going to talk to him about whether he

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Speaker 3: thinks in hindsight it was a good decision for the PM,

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Speaker 3: for our Prime Minister not to be in white Tongey right.

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Speaker 3: The sky City International can Ventance Center in Auckland has

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Speaker 3: been delayed again, with the opening date now set February

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Sky City have cited delays with Fletcher

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Speaker 3: Building as the reason behind the pushback with Flecter Building,

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Speaker 3: saying last June that it was aiming to finish the

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Speaker 3: building by the end of the year. Calum Mallett is

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Speaker 3: sky City's chief operating officer and he is with us.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, good evening, Hey, can you just confirm to

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Speaker 3: me when will the convention center be completed and when

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Speaker 3: will it be handed over to you? And when will

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Speaker 3: it open?

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Speaker 24: Hopefully sure so, Flector Building are targeting at Dune twenty

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Speaker 24: twenty five dates for their completion. We will then take

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Speaker 24: over the building and commissioning and operational readiness work. It

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Speaker 24: will take a few months and so for that reason

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Speaker 24: we think it's been prudent to announce a February twenty

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Speaker 24: twenty six opening, which allows for some continent agency and

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Speaker 24: really importantly gives certainty not just to our team, but

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Speaker 24: most importantly to our customers, so they can have certainty

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Speaker 24: for their book nds moving into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, got you That timeline all makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: Now are you concerned that the completion may not be

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Speaker 3: done by June this year?

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Speaker 24: Look, there's no question it's been a challenging project and

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Speaker 24: has continued for the delays. But we know that Fletchers

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Speaker 24: believe that June is a date that they will absolutely

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Speaker 24: have the building finished by and has said, you know,

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Speaker 24: we've got some contingency to make sure that if it

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Speaker 24: goes a little later than that, we still have the

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Speaker 24: appropriate time we need to do the commission in operational

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Speaker 24: work for that February twenty six opening.

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Speaker 3: Can these completion dates and lightning dates are already much

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Speaker 3: later than what you had expected? Is Fletcher the sole

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Speaker 3: reason for this delay?

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Speaker 24: Well, look, it's certainly been a challenging build. Francester and

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Speaker 24: Fletchers and ourselves still working very productively on making sure

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Speaker 24: that the buildings finished, but that also importantly that it's

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Speaker 24: finished for the absolute standard that we are in New

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Speaker 24: Zealand should expect, you know, from February twenty six This

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Speaker 24: is going to be an amazing building for Auckland and

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Speaker 24: for New Zealand. So welcome over thirty thousand international delegates

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Speaker 24: every year and about half a million visitors from around

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Speaker 24: New Zealand and Auckland every year. It's going to be

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Speaker 24: a really important part. We hope and expect for the

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Speaker 24: community to have graduations and to comfort dinners for conferences

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Speaker 24: and to watch there's their shows, et cetera. So, you know,

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Speaker 24: working with Fletchers to deliver that point and then making

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Speaker 24: sure that we do the commissioning appropriately to give the

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Speaker 24: very first guests the best experience we can is paramount

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Speaker 24: to us.

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Speaker 3: So this isn't turning into a blame game. You are

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Speaker 3: looking forward with positivity to getting it open and getting

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Speaker 3: things in action.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: Look, there's no question that is later than we and

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Speaker 24: we'd hope anyone would have liked. But we're really excited

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Speaker 24: today to be able to talk about the February twenty

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Speaker 24: sixth date and actually give a strong date for our

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Speaker 24: customers and for the world to know about so that

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Speaker 24: we can attract the magnitude and importance of conferences that

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Speaker 24: we want to New Zealand are, so we're really excited

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Speaker 24: about that.

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Speaker 3: And look, kindum, just before we do look forward, is

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Speaker 3: this costing you with the delays? Have you missed out

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Speaker 3: on key events just because how late it has been open?

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Speaker 24: Absolutely, no question, And there were some events later in

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Speaker 24: this year that unfortunately we have needed to communicate to

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Speaker 24: those organizers that we can no longer host their conferences

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Speaker 24: and for that we're really sorry and disappointed. But absolutely

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Speaker 24: it's cost Sky City revenue. But it's also cost the

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Speaker 24: wider tourism industry, whether it's airlines, whether it's hotels, whether

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Speaker 24: it's event organizes considerably as well. And you know it's

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Speaker 24: no secret obviously that the New Zealand tourism industry has

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Speaker 24: got its challenges. At the moment, we're going back to

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Speaker 24: eighty five percent of international tourists that we were pre

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Speaker 24: codd and certainly business events across the country and certainly

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Speaker 24: the ends of I See City a really important driver

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Speaker 24: of that. And you know, we look forward, you know,

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Speaker 24: with real hope of what part we can play in that,

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Speaker 24: and the recent change of Tourism Minister and the government's

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Speaker 24: new approach around or really focused approach around growth, absolutely

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Speaker 24: marries perfectly with what we're wanting to achieve at the

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Speaker 24: ends of ICEC. So yes, it has cost us revenue,

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Speaker 24: but equally we're excited about what it will offer us

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Speaker 24: come twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of orplaned it will be

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Speaker 3: behind as well because we've had to be very patient

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Speaker 3: with the changes to roading, and you know, while it's

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Speaker 3: been built, you know there's been a lot on the

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Speaker 3: city as well, So it's going to be wonderful to

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Speaker 3: have that area kind of opened up and complete. Again,

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Speaker 3: are you managing to attract some big key events to

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Speaker 3: the convention center?

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Speaker 24: Yes, absolutely, we've had a sales team in case for

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Speaker 24: some time they fell globally, and you know, we're really

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Speaker 24: excited about the pipeline of large scale international conferences that

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Speaker 24: we're managing to attract for twenty six, twenty seven and

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Speaker 24: twenty eight. They will have a significant economic attact on

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Speaker 24: New Zealand upward to one hundred million dollars a year.

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Speaker 24: Throughout the industry is associated in and around the ends

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Speaker 24: at ICC and associated with tourism. So where as I

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Speaker 24: said before, it's the airlines, hotels, it's transport, it's certain beverage, suppliers.

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Speaker 24: It's going to have a big impact on a good

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Speaker 24: week there. We're expect to have fifteen to twenty thousand

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Speaker 24: visitors going through through the ends that I see see

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Speaker 24: and multitude of events, both conferences and their a space.

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Speaker 24: It's got an almost three thousand tax, thetter, multiple binners, etc.

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Speaker 5: So it's going to have a big impact.

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Speaker 24: Yes, we appreciate everybody's patients with some of the construction

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Speaker 24: that's gone on, and we're super excited about being able

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 24: to showcase the end product to everybody where. Hopefully when

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Speaker 24: people walk through that center and go and have events

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Speaker 24: at the center, they will all think, like we do,

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Speaker 24: that the weight will be worth it.

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Speaker 3: Callum, just finally, you mentioned the difficulty the tourism industry

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Speaker 3: has been dealing with. Is it good to have the

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Speaker 3: Horizon Hotel open? What's the demand being.

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Speaker 24: Like, Look, we're delighted to have the Horizon Hotel open.

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Speaker 24: It's obviously a really important piece of the end that

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Speaker 24: I see sea puzzle for us across the precinct. Feedback

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Speaker 24: from customers has been really good. Demand has been good. Albeit,

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Speaker 24: as we've discussed Francesca, the tourist industry and the supply

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Speaker 24: of hotels in Auckland. We've got a number of new

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Speaker 24: properties have opened across the last five years, which is

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Speaker 24: fantastic medium it's a lot to certainly, it's a challenge

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Speaker 24: at the moment with relatively low occupancy and ADRs in

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Speaker 24: the industry, and it's things like the end that I

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Speaker 24: see so like the government wanting growth, wanting to bring

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Speaker 24: in more major events that the hotel industry certainly needs

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Speaker 24: at the moment, and so we're looking forward to being

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Speaker 24: able to provide that important precedent for structure and February

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Speaker 24: next year.

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Speaker 3: Callum Mallach, thank you very much for your time. Callum's

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Speaker 3: Sky City's chief operating officer. Coming up next here on

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Speaker 3: Newstalk's AB, Jason Wolves is going to wrap the political

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 3: week and he's going to have a talk about the

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Speaker 3: government getting involved with the banks and who they do

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Speaker 3: business with. It is fifteen past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio empowered by Newstalk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 3: It is time to wrap the week in politics and

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Speaker 3: I'm joined now by Jason Wolf's News Talks. He'd be

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Speaker 3: political editor. Good evening, welcome back, Jason, Oh, good evening,

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Speaker 3: good evening. What a week. What a week in d look,

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Speaker 3: it's always a big week, White Tonguing week. Did it

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Speaker 3: go as expected?

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 16: Pretty much? I would say, I don't think there was

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Speaker 16: anything there that really overtly surprised me all that much.

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Speaker 16: I mean, we knew going into it that the centerpiece

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Speaker 16: of the person that would have the most focused on

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Speaker 16: them would obviously be David Seymour. That's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 16: I thought that, you know, during the speeches at the pie,

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Speaker 16: I thought that his would be the one that was

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Speaker 16: under the most focused and the most scrutiny. That's exactly

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Speaker 16: what I happened.

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Speaker 14: What happened, And I.

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Speaker 16: Figured that there'd be quite a few protests. W well,

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 16: people came and took his microphone not once but twice.

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01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 16: He had to get security escorted away. And there was

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Speaker 16: a general sort of sense that people didn't want David

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01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 16: Seymour there at waite Ungu, But he went anyway nonetheless,

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 16: and I think that you know, he kept he powered

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Speaker 16: through when the microphone was taken away from him, to

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Speaker 16: get his message out there and to say what he

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Speaker 16: came there to say. And I think you know, that

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01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 16: was always going to happen, So nothing really outright surprised

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01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 16: me about White Tangy. The Prime Minister was down in

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Speaker 16: the South Island. He was down in christ Church near

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01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 16: the Bank's Peninsula with Natahu, and of course that went

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 16: exactly as we'd expect as well. People were saying the

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01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 16: Prime Minister should be up there at White Tangy. But

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Speaker 16: you know, at the end of the day, I think

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Speaker 16: people will not be talking about this in about a

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Speaker 16: week's time because this story about the Treatise Principal's Bill

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Speaker 16: has been told before, it will continue to be told,

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Speaker 16: and I think this is just another sort of bump

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Speaker 16: in the road in terms of how this whole coalition

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Speaker 16: government's terms going.

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Speaker 3: Looking back, now, do you think it was a good

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Speaker 3: decision for the Prime Minister not to go to WHITEITANGI

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Speaker 3: do you think that, as you say, it's just in

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Speaker 3: a week's time, it's really not going to matter.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: I think he was completely right to do so, I'm

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's just you've got to think about the

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Speaker 16: risk reward of going up there. What sort of reward

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Speaker 16: would the Prime Minister get from going to the White Tangy.

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Speaker 16: I mean, there was people saying that, yes he's the one,

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Speaker 16: that he's the Prime minister. He needs to show some leadership,

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Speaker 16: he needs to front up to some of the controversy

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Speaker 16: that has been created frankly by his government by saying

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Speaker 16: that we will explore the Treaty Principle's Bill. But at

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Speaker 16: the end, I mean the risk was too much. I mean,

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Speaker 16: you know, if the same thing happened to him as

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Speaker 16: to David Seymour, he would argue that, you know, that

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Speaker 16: unbecoming of a prime minister, and people would get really

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Speaker 16: angry with the fact that that's how the Prime minister

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Speaker 16: was treated up there at White Hangy. And we've seen

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Speaker 16: this examples of countless of examples of this happening over

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Speaker 16: the years as well, So you know there will be

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Speaker 16: people on each side saying different things about this in

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Speaker 16: terms of should the Prime Minister have gone, should he

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Speaker 16: have not have gone? I think the vast majority of

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Speaker 16: people around there of the country probably don't care, is

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Speaker 16: what I would think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I think he received the I think

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Speaker 3: he received the same messages in the South Idle of

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Speaker 3: that he would have received if he was at White

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of talk Maury saying, look, the

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Speaker 3: trust has been broken between the Crown and Maurray and

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Speaker 3: you're going to need to work really hard to fix us.

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Speaker 3: And I think he would have got that same message

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Speaker 3: wherever he.

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Speaker 16: Was, Yeah, exactly. And I think that if he was,

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Speaker 16: he was somewhere else, not at White Tonguy. I mean

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Speaker 16: that kind of you know, almost cleared the decks for

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Speaker 16: David Seymour and Shane Jones to be the A listers

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Speaker 16: up there and hog all the media attention from them.

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Speaker 16: I mean, apart from a we spat with an unfunny comedian.

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Speaker 16: I think that did you see that, the guy Williams

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Speaker 16: David Seymour. I thought that was You know, Jesus, if

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Speaker 16: you're going to come up against David Seymour.

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Speaker 3: You'd be really strong because.

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Speaker 16: He is you know, say what you want about David Seymour,

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Speaker 16: He's very hard to beat in an argument, especially, and

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Speaker 16: that's what we don't do that as press. We don't

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Speaker 16: go in looking for an argument. I mean the vast

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Speaker 16: majority of the time, I certainly don't. We go in

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Speaker 16: because we have questions that we want to be answered.

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Speaker 16: We have things that people in the public, other political

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Speaker 16: leaders of the community leaders that have said that we

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Speaker 16: put to a to a politician as a leader, you

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Speaker 16: don't go in their guns blazing the way that guy

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Speaker 16: Williams did. It kind of makes us all look like

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Speaker 16: a bit of a joke to be honest.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the banks have been in the government's firing line.

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Speaker 3: Where are we at with this? What's happening next?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's an interesting one because my colleague at The Herald,

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Speaker 16: Thomas Coughlin, has been reporting that the fact that the

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Speaker 16: B and Z Bank have been talking about having the

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Speaker 16: services withdrawn from people and credit cards and cancellation of

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Speaker 16: accounts for by twenty thirty for people to do with

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Speaker 16: coal mining. And then before we've had some other questions

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Speaker 16: raised about banks saying that they're not lending to petrol

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Speaker 16: stations going forward, and the Prime Minister came out quite

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Speaker 16: strongly on Hosking's show this week and saying that that's

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Speaker 16: not on. If we have to get the bankers back

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Speaker 16: before the Select Committee that is hauling the banking CEOs

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Speaker 16: in front of the MP's again, we'll have to do it,

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Speaker 16: which generated quite a lot of controversy because there were

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Speaker 16: some people that said go Prime Minister absolutely banks shouldn't

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Speaker 16: be making these decisions. It's not fair for them to

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Speaker 16: be excluding these people just because of what you know,

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Speaker 16: somebody sitting at the un thousands of miles away that

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Speaker 16: has more private jet hours than any of us can

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Speaker 16: hope to have on our entire life is telling us all.

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01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 16: But then Barry Soap actually who usually does a slot,

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Speaker 16: made the interesting point earlier this week that it's not

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Speaker 16: up for a government to tell a private business what

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Speaker 16: it can, what it should be doing, and what it

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Speaker 16: should be investing in, and the government should just be

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 16: butting out here and it's not their decision at all.

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Speaker 16: So there's some really interesting discussion both sides of this

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Speaker 16: one as well. But Chris Luxon and Nikola Willis have

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01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 16: indicated that they don't like it and they want to

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Speaker 16: see the bank is back before the Select Committee, so

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Speaker 16: look out for that one.

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Speaker 20: Well.

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Speaker 3: I also think, you know, it's also up to the

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Speaker 3: consumer to make a decision as to whether they think

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Speaker 3: that a company has been happily benefiting from industries for

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Speaker 3: many decades and then decides to do a bit of

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Speaker 3: green washing and present themselves slightly differently, whether that kind

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Speaker 3: of is the kind of bank they want to bank with.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly, I mean it's okay. It is some form

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Speaker 16: of democracy in voting with your wallet saying well, if

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Speaker 16: i don't like what bnzi's doing, I'm going to go

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Speaker 16: to another bank easier is that?

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Speaker 3: Jason Walls, thank you very much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 3: Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 9: Oh thank you you too.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty four plast six year with Newstalgs EDB

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Speaker 3: croating the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Francesca Ugot within the Business Hour on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Coming up shortly, we have our Agia business correspondent who

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Speaker 3: is going to talk about how China is fighting back

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Speaker 3: against Trump's tariffs as they take effect. We're going to

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01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 3: talk about the tariffs that have been placed on companies

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Speaker 3: wanting to import goods from abroad. But China has also

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Speaker 3: imposed export controls on twenty five rare metals. Some of

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Speaker 3: these metals are key components for many of the electrical

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Speaker 3: products and military equipment that the US needs, and China

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Speaker 3: has mastered the ability to refine such metals and produce

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Speaker 3: almost ninety percent of global refined output. So they are

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Speaker 3: definitely finding a way to respond. But President Trump has

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Speaker 3: come back and said I've got an answer to that.

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Speaker 3: He wants the Ukraine to guarantee the supply of more

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Speaker 3: rare earth metals in exchange with three hundred billion of

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Speaker 3: support in its fight against Russia. So we're going to

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01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,799
Speaker 3: talk about the numerous different ways that China is fighting

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01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 3: back as as well as other issues from the region

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Speaker 3: that is coming up next News is he next time.

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Speaker 2: When you're not you'll win me.

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Speaker 25: I'm falling a following in fun can you're passing.

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Speaker 1: On skill freaking, whether it's macro micro for just playing economics.

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Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hours with Francesca Ruggan on

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Speaker 1: News Jogs v.

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Speaker 25: Begin busis may.

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Speaker 8: Be good to have you with us.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty three to seven still to come. Before

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Speaker 3: the end of the hour, we will be heading to

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01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 3: the UK to talk to Gavin Gray.

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Speaker 2: Francisca.

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Speaker 3: So now it is time for our Aga Business correspondent

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Speaker 3: and I'm joined by Peter Lewis.

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Speaker 4: Good evening, Peter Good evening, Francisca.

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Speaker 3: So, China is fighting back against Trump as his tariffs

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Speaker 3: take effect in some quite interesting ways. How are they responding?

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Speaker 4: Well, Yes, they have the Trump implemented ten percent tarofts

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Speaker 4: on all Chinese ex sports to the US that took

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Speaker 4: effect on Tuesday. Interestingly, he announced tarots also on Canada

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Speaker 4: and Mexico and they got postponed by about a month

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01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 4: while they while they negotiate, but no sign at the

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Speaker 4: moment of these tariffs being postponed. They are fairly limited

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01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: in nature. They're only on about fourteen billion dollars of goods,

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01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 4: so that's less than ten percent of total imports from

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Speaker 4: the US last year. Now are some other things they've

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Speaker 4: done as well, like putting launching an investigation into Google

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Speaker 4: and anti monopoly investigation, also putting some companies on the

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Speaker 4: Entities List, and also restricting certain metals and rare earths

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Speaker 4: that are important to the US. One of them is tungsten,

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Speaker 4: which is used in semiconductors and weapons. China produces about

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Speaker 4: eighty percent of the world supply of tungsten, and the

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Speaker 4: US gets more than a quarter of its tungsten from China,

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Speaker 4: where there's been ban on that. But the more interesting

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Speaker 4: thing is when a Trump and she's going to talk.

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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 4: Donald Trump said initially that he was going to talk

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01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 4: to President g within the next day or so, and

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01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 4: then he seems to backtrack for that saying there's no rush.

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01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 4: I suspect what is happening is that no rush is

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01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 4: on the Chinese side. I don't think President g is

1735
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 4: in any rush to talk to Donald Trump. And that's

1736
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 4: partly because I don't think he wants to be appearing

1737
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 4: domestically to be seen to be weak by sort of

1738
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 4: cuddling up and cozying up to Donald Trump. So I

1739
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 4: think he's holding fire at the moment. And also given

1740
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 4: that there are threats of more tariffs coming. The US

1741
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 4: side has said they're going to investigate the overall trade

1742
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 4: relationship with China, so I don't think she wants to

1743
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 4: make any any concessions and then go and be hit

1744
01:26:55,080 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 4: with more tariffs by the rather unpredictable Donald Trump. To

1745
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 4: see when is this talk, this discussion going to happen,

1746
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 4: and are these tariffs are going to get suspended.

1747
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 3: Some of it's a bit vague, isn't it. We're not

1748
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 3: entirely sure what the Google probe is about, what that

1749
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 3: investigation is actually looking at it the way.

1750
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 4: Well, they're talking about Google's dominance first of all in

1751
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 4: the iOS operating system, which a lot of Chinese phonemakers

1752
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 4: use on their phones like Colway, and it's constantly been

1753
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 4: a thorn in the side of China that Google does

1754
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 4: have this dominance there. Apart from that, Google doesn't have

1755
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 4: any business in China. We're drew in back in twenty ten.

1756
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 4: Google Search is banned anyway in China. So in some

1757
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 4: ways this is more symbolic than anything else than having

1758
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 4: any real impact. They're also going to look at the

1759
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 4: fees that Google charges in its stores, and that's been

1760
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 4: something that regulators all around the world have been there

1761
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 4: been looking at. So it seems more is to send

1762
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 4: a signal to the US that China is prepared to

1763
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 4: respond and respond very robustly and announce these tarots almost

1764
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 4: within seconds of the U S tariffs are coming into effect.

1765
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 4: So I think part of it is is also sending

1766
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 4: us a clear message to Donald Trump.

1767
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 3: And Donald Trump the president is going to establish a

1768
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 3: sovereign wealth fund that could buy tech talk. Now that's

1769
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 3: his plan. How do you think byt dancers going to

1770
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 3: feel about that?

1771
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Speaker 4: Well, this is interesting. Just the fact that the US

1772
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 4: is setting up of wealth fund is it's rather unusual

1773
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 4: because the countries that set up wealth funds tend to

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01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 4: be smaller but have large reserves and larger amounts of

1775
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 4: natural resources that they that they need to recycle the

1776
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 4: money from. Well that the US doesn't have anything to

1777
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 4: put into this sovereign World Fund. It has deficits as

1778
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 4: far as the I can see. So it's not clear

1779
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 4: at all where it's going to get the money to

1780
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 4: put into this World Fund that could go and buy TikTok.

1781
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 4: And of course there's no response yet at all from

1782
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 4: either TikTok about whether it's willing to negotiate and debault

1783
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 4: or from the Chinese government about whether it's prepared to

1784
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 4: let TikTok be hived off and run by the US.

1785
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 4: Donald Trump has proposed sort of some sort of fifty

1786
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 4: to fifty joint venture that would run TikTok, and he's

1787
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 4: sort of also proposed that as part of suggested that

1788
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 4: there could be some sort of overall deal done with

1789
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 4: China that will include a trade deal. It would include

1790
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 4: TikTok and a number of other things as well. But yes,

1791
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 4: it's an interesting idea how it's actually going to work.

1792
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 4: As always with some of these Trump plans, there's very

1793
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 4: little detail.

1794
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 3: And Peter good news for those who have been waiting

1795
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 3: for the apostles from Amazon or Tea move. The UIs

1796
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 3: Postal Service resumes inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong.

1797
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: How long did that last?

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Speaker 6: That?

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01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 3: Was it about a twelve hour.

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Speaker 9: You know restriction about that?

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01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was about that. It's been last very

1802
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 4: long at all. They said Tuesday that they were halting

1803
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 4: all inbound packages from mainland China and Hong Kong until

1804
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 4: further notice. It wasn't clear at all what prompted the

1805
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 4: United States Parcel Service to do that, But as part

1806
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 4: of the tariffs that Trump put onto China, he revokes

1807
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 4: what's known as the Dominimus rule for China. Now, this

1808
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 4: allowed small packages under eight hundred dollars to enter the

1809
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 4: US duty three. Now, this has been a huge boom

1810
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 4: for Chinese e comets companies like Shine, like Temu that'd

1811
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:55,919
Speaker 4: been able to sell goods directly to the US consumer

1812
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 4: using this Deminimus rule to bypass tarots, and a huge

1813
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 4: amount of goods I think it was about forty eight

1814
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 4: billion dollars worth in the first nine months last year

1815
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 4: were shipped into the US under this rule and providing

1816
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 4: as a US continuing you're willing to wait for the delivery.

1817
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 4: It made these packages a lot cheaper, which is one

1818
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 4: of the reasons why in particular has exploded in the

1819
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 4: US and able to offer these steep discounts on a

1820
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 4: variety of products. Well, that's now been suspended, and it

1821
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 4: could be that the US Parcel Service has responded because

1822
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 4: of that. And we're also hearing that logistics companies now

1823
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 4: are charging retailers who shipped directly to the US as

1824
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 4: thirty percent levy as a sort of deposit to cover

1825
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 4: any tariffs that are either in effect at the moment

1826
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 4: or any new tariffs that Donald Trump might impose on

1827
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 4: these companies and on China.

1828
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 3: Right, So, Peter that if you passl cost least than

1829
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: eight hundred dollars, you'd be bow to ship it in

1830
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 3: without tariffs. But that has been paused.

1831
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,560
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, basically there was a tax that there was

1832
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 4: a tax on these of goods going into the US,

1833
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 4: but if it's under eight hundred dollars, you avoided that tariff.

1834
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 4: So that's now been suspended. Got you.

1835
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for filling us in, Peter and

1836
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 3: keeping us up to date. That was our Asia business.

1837
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 3: A correspondent, We are going to head to the UK next.

1838
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Gavin Gray is going to be with us shortly. It

1839
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 3: is fifteen to seven.

1840
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1841
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: with Francesca Ruggin on News Talks ENV.

1842
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 3: And we're heading to the UK now where I'm joined

1843
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 3: by Gavin Gray.

1844
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 6: Good evening, Gavin, Hi, the Francesca.

1845
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 18: Good to have you with us.

1846
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 3: Hey, look it us all go on the Greek island

1847
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 3: of Santorini. Several more earthquakes have struck. What is the latest.

1848
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm afraid it's a pretty depressing scene. They have

1849
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:04,480
Speaker 6: had thousands of tremors in the last week. The population

1850
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 6: normally at fifteen thousand. That's the resident population, not the tourists.

1851
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 6: Fifteen thousand. More than eleven thousand, we believe have now

1852
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 6: gone and they've just decided to get out, go somewhere else.

1853
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 6: These are the shifting of tectonic plates, these earthquakes, not

1854
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 6: volcanic eruptions or the fear of volcanic eruptions. But the

1855
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 6: biggest one was a four point six magnitude and that

1856
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 6: was on Thursday evening local time. And there have been,

1857
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 6: as I said, just thousands of other tremors and local

1858
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 6: residents absolutely fearful and so they fled. Now the authorities

1859
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 6: from other islands are on standby to come and help.

1860
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 6: All healthcare professional leave has been canceled, and the authorities

1861
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 6: there have all these army on stand by, firefighters on

1862
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 6: standby at the moment. Amazingly no damage to any of

1863
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 6: the old ancient buildings there, but yeah, the fear for

1864
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 6: local peop were just absolutely overwhelming.

1865
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 3: Is the concern that these earthquakes, these small earthquakes are

1866
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 3: going to continue, all that they could be a big earthquake.

1867
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Faar is a really big one, and of

1868
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 6: course they're very, very difficult to predict. Even the experts

1869
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 6: say they don't know. What we do know is it's

1870
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 6: on a sort of arc or what is called the

1871
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 6: sort of a Hellenic arc, which is a sort of

1872
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 6: ring of earthquakes and the ring of volcanoes. Now, the

1873
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 6: volcanoes last erupted in the nineteen fifties, but as I said,

1874
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,959
Speaker 6: it's the shifting of the tectonic plates that this particular

1875
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 6: part of the world which is causing so much concern.

1876
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,560
Speaker 6: And let's face it, you've had a sort of magnitude

1877
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 6: five point two this week, we've had that one last

1878
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 6: night that was four point six, and you know it's

1879
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 6: not far above something considered severe, which is a six

1880
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 6: point zero magnitude one, and that can be loss of

1881
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 6: life and of course damage to buildings.

1882
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 3: Kevin, Syrians and a Bosnian among the teen victims of

1883
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:03,839
Speaker 3: a gunman who carried out the worst shooting in Swedish

1884
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,959
Speaker 3: history at a school west of Stockholm on Tuesday.

1885
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 6: Yes, it's one of those things that the police have

1886
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 6: been very very slow to come out with information and

1887
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 6: have been criticized actually in Sweden for that. What we

1888
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 6: do know is that the suspect, who we believe killed

1889
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 6: himself with his own gun at the school, had shot

1890
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 6: ten other people. And we know that the school wasn't

1891
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 6: a sort of ordinary school. It was used often by

1892
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 6: people in their twenties who hadn't sort of done very

1893
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 6: well in the educational system, but was also used as

1894
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 6: a venue for migrants learning Swedish. And that's been the

1895
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 6: fear locally that this was a racist attack. The police

1896
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 6: said there is no evidence of that. They say there's

1897
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 6: no evidence that he acted with anyone else, and they

1898
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 6: said there's no evidence of any terrorism, so it's very

1899
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 6: odd that the moment they're really struggling for a motive.

1900
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 6: But many local people do believe it might have been

1901
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 6: racist aspired and that's why learning that among the ten

1902
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 6: victims we have a couple of Syrians and the Bosnian

1903
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 6: that information actually came out from their respective embassies. So

1904
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 6: slow has the police announcements been on the identity of

1905
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 6: those who died. And I'm afraid a really awful thing

1906
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 6: that one of the Syrians is said to have made

1907
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 6: a call out on their mobile to their family saying

1908
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 6: they've been shot, and to say how much they love them,

1909
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 6: and to say they were in hiding and they were

1910
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 6: engaged to say please family, could you look after my fiance?

1911
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 6: And then later on I'm afraid died. So some really

1912
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 6: heartbreaking news coming out of Sweden.

1913
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 3: Horrific story. Now, has anyone tried to snatch your mobile phone? Given?

1914
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 6: No? But I have seen it in London. I've got

1915
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 6: one of these prehistoric old phones. But in London, I'm

1916
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 6: afraid the theft of phones has reached absolutely epidemic, endemic proportions.

1917
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 6: It's now a trade is said to be worth about

1918
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 6: a hunt and ten million New Zealand dollars a year

1919
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 6: in stolen phones, and the police have had a huge

1920
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 6: crackdown this week. And what tends to happen is people

1921
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 6: of course using them on the street or on the

1922
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 6: pavement and they've got them out and about. Some of

1923
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 6: these phones are worth several thousand New Zealand dollars or

1924
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,560
Speaker 6: at least you know, a thousand New Zealand dollars, and

1925
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 6: criminals are driving by in a little mopeds and simply

1926
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 6: leaning over and snatching the phones and then driving off

1927
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 6: and managing to sell them, often abroad. But this clamp

1928
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 6: down by the police has seen two hundred and thirty

1929
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 6: people arrested, one thousand handsets recovered.

1930
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 14: But the scale of.

1931
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 6: That trade one hundred and ten million New Zealand dollars

1932
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 6: a year, is really something. And police are saying, look,

1933
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 6: if you're gonna use your phone, you know, stand by

1934
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 6: a wall or in a corner. Check that you know

1935
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 6: you're not in an area where somebody could cycle or

1936
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 6: drive by when you make that call.

1937
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 3: You're going to be looking really dodgy. All these sort

1938
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 3: of dodgy people on the streets up against a building

1939
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 3: or in a doorway or something. It sort of takes

1940
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 3: me back. You know, thirty years ago when I used

1941
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 3: to go to Europe, every who says you don't wear

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Speaker 3: It just feels a little but like that, I the

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Speaker 14: So quick yep, yeah, so quick.

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Speaker 4: It's over in a matter of a second or so.

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Speaker 3: You stick with your your little ancient number. There's your

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Speaker 3: phone I'm talking about. Of course, it's probably working brilliantly

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Speaker 3: for you. Lovely to catch up with you, Gavin, have

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Speaker 3: a good weekend, appreciate your time. It is six to seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the heather too for see Alan Drive Full Show

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Speaker 3: I will be back in my natural habitat the Sunday session.

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Speaker 3: We've got a great show lined up for you. Actually.

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Speaker 3: Sabacloski is a former CIA agent. He was an analyst.

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Speaker 3: Actually he's spent about nine years in Syria. He now

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Speaker 3: writes novels. He's taken what he has experienced and learned

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Speaker 3: spy novels. And he's also the co host of a

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Speaker 3: podcast called The Rest Is Classified. If you are on

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Speaker 3: holiday for a long weekend and you're looking for a

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Speaker 3: good podcast, it's definitely worth the listen. Anyway, he is

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Speaker 3: going to be with me at ten am on Sunday

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Speaker 3: morning to talk about his experiences and how he's turned

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Speaker 3: you could join us. Thank you for joining us here

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Speaker 3: today on Drive. Of course, Darcy Waldgrave is going to

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Speaker 3: be up next with sports talk. But what are we

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Speaker 3: going out on tonight?

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Speaker 9: Ants The Night Before by the Black Keys. This is

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Speaker 9: hours ago.

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Speaker 11: New Books.

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Speaker 9: It'd be on a Friday, your home for new music.

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Speaker 3: Here we are right, Oh we've got we've got our

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