1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: EARLI edition with ex Pole Insulation, keeping Kiwi Holmes warm 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: and try this winter news talks. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: They'd be welcome onrning to you on this very cold 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: morning minus five at an airport minus three in Masterton 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: right now, I'm Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge, who's 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: just taking a long weekend. Coming up over the next hour. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Should government ministers be forced to pause their private health 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: insurance and use the public system? Some doctors think so. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: They've written an open letter. What does the Chair of 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Health New Zealand think That story? In just minutes new 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: high strength beers of flooding the market? Are they any good? 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Or are they doing bad? That story in fifteen we've 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: got all the news from America with Mitch mccam including 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: the latest and the Epstein saga and the new electoral rules. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: Are they undemocratic? Labour think so, And we're going to 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: talk to their spokesperson just before six. We'll go right 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: around the country with our reporters and we'll have news 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: as it breaks and you can have your say ye 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: saying we at texts. The number is ninety ten two 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: ninety two is small charge applies at seven after five 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: the agenda, Well, it's Friday, the twenty fifth of July. 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: You made it first to the da situation in Gaza. 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Now more than one hundred international aid organizations have warned 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: of mass starvation, and they all blame Israel. The UN 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: says it has six thousand trucks worth of aid waiting 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: to enter. A news organizations say even their journalists on 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: the ground are unable to feed themselves. A doctor in 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: Gaza says Palestinians are not close to famine. They're living it. 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: Path to aired is path today it's a one way ticket. 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: I see the injured people who come to the hospital 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: in big numbers. We sometimes receive up to fifty injury 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: to day. We don't have any time to close our 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: eyes and have some rare. 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: To America, and the Wall Street Journal is reporting Trump 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: was told in May that he was among hundreds of 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: names mentioned in Justice Department documents relating to Jeffrey Epstein. 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: The White House is calling it a fake news story. 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: The President has made it clear that he wanted these 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: documents to be declassified. He wanted the American people to 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: see the truth. And now he wants those who perpetuated 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: these lies in this scandal to be held accountable, and. 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: It puts even more pressure on Trump to release the files. 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: It's different from other controversies he spaced during his political 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 5: career because, for the first time since he's gotten involved 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: in politics over the last decade, we have seen that 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: his conservative nagabase appears to be spluntering. 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, there's legal action between Donald Trump and the Wall 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal owned by Rupert Murdoch. 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: So mates of fighting and now here's a nice story. 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: A Canadian tourism man has called come hug it out 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: has gone viral. The video from Quebec's Eastern Township shows 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: a Canadian hotel worker giving an American tourist a big 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: Canadian hug, a friendly nudge to call off the tension 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: after months of tariffs and taunts between the US and Canada. 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 6: ESK spooky. 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 7: Sorry, I don't speak French. 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 8: I'm just visiting. 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 9: Well, then, welcome to Canada's eastern townships. 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: Where are you visiting from. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 7: I'm American, ah. 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: Doki, hey, and the numbers don't lie between the United 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: States and Canada. US travel to Canada by car is 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: down eleven percent, and Canadians heading south down are whopping 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: thirty three percent. It's ten out of five. 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Dickins and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry. 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: This winter news talks at me. 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: So is this the week that the Nikola Willis bubble burst? 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: The Finance Minister was widely criticized this week as being ineffectual. 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: After the much hyped butter summit with Miles Hurl from 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: fon Terra, nothing happened other than Miles yesterday telling us 73 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: exactly why butter is high, which was something we already knew. Meanwhile, 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: the Minister doubled down in the house at question time, 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: getting more and more historyonic, leading some to compare her 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: answers to Labour's questions as the sound of a bellowing 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: farm animal with just as much hot air. Mike Hosky 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: on The Breakfast Show Had Fun criticized her continual over 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: hyping of what she can achieve with consumer prices, noting 80 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: that she's doing the same with the supermarket issue and 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: comparing her to de Cinder Addurn, who remember told us 82 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: once upon a time that petrol companies were fleecing us. Meanwhile, 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: the country is locked into a morderal and economic state, 84 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: possibly due to excessive austerity. In the pursuit of lower 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: debt levels, she's prune the bureaucracy, which is no bad thing, 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: but she also turned off government funding of critical work, 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: negatively impacting many sectors, including construction. I'll tell you a 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: story about construction in a few moments. And in canceling 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: the fairies, she may have saved us a big bill now, 90 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: but it threatens to be an even bigger bill later. 91 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: Nikola Willis may be a factor in National's poor performance 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: in the polls as the recession drags on, because we 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: all know any election the most important issue is the economy, stupid, 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: and she's the one running the economy. And with such 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: a long list of over egged performative politics, you start 96 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: to wonder if the Prime Minister might be starting to 97 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: look to the subs bench because with all the negative 98 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: press coming her way, she may have cooked her slightly 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: overinflated goose. And Nichola Willis will be in conversation with 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: Mike Hoskin, which should be very entertaining after six o'clock 101 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: this morning. Right here on News Talks ATB. It's twelve after. 102 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 10: Five News TALKSB. 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: All right, so as some health workers set an open letter, 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: don't you love an open letter? Not really, but they 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: set an open letter and they reckon that politicians should 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: use the public health system and not their private insurance 107 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: so that they can really experience what it's really really like. 108 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: So is this a good idea? Is this a stunt? 109 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: What does the Chair of Health New Zealand, Rob Campbell 110 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: think about it? And would he only use a public system? 111 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: I will find out all his former chair of course, 112 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: we'll find this out in just a few moments time. 113 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: Right here on News Talks ATB. 114 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: Views and Views you Trust to start your day. It's 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickins at expol Insulation keeping Kiwi 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry this winter News Talks d B. 117 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's fourteen out to five. Should MPs have to 118 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: use the public health system? That is a challenge from 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: a group of health workers who are calling out politicians 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: saying they should have to rely on the systems that 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: they reside over so they can personally experience the consequences 122 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: of any decision they make. So Rob Campbell is the 123 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: former chair of Tafata Order Health New Zealand, and he 124 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: comes to the program. Now good On is here. Rob, 125 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: thank you once again for getting up early for. 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 8: Us, Marina Andrew, it's not early for some of this is. 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: Good on you. Is it fair? Is it fair to 128 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: force MPs or to ask MPs to use the public 129 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: health system? 130 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 8: Look at they're not going to do it anymore than 131 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 8: they're going to turn down their next pay rise. But 132 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 8: the call that's been made, I think does highlight that 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 8: as d MPs, but many people do live in a 134 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 8: bit of a cocoon from the major problems of our 135 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 8: public health system because they've been able to opt out 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 8: to a large extent through the insurance that they hold. 137 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 8: About nearly half of New Zealanders do hold health insurance, 138 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 8: so it's no surprise that many MPs do. So it 139 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 8: highlights the fact that if you don't have the problem, 140 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 8: you probably are not going to effectively deal with the problem. 141 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 8: So I support the call to that extent. Is it practical, 142 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 8: don't think so, But it highlights the point that people 143 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 8: are living in a cocoon and most people, still a 144 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 8: slight majority I believe, are fully reliant on the public system. 145 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: Well, did the open letter writers not go far enough? 146 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: You know, because senior bureaucrats in the public service system, 147 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: should they also have been asked to rely solely on 148 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: the public system since they are making decisions? Should the 149 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: opposition also been included in their call? 150 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 8: Oh? Look, I think it's certainly the call should have been, 151 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 8: and I believe it was direct to do all MPs. 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 8: And it made me think, I know, when I was 153 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 8: on to FIGHTO or how many of the senior staff 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 8: or other directors held health insurance, because I'd be very 155 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 8: disappointed if they did. But when I think about it, 156 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 8: it's quite possible they did. And there's no question that 157 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 8: your own circumstance does alter your viewers things. So I 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 8: think that that point is very valid and it's a 159 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 8: problem for the public health, for the public health system. Absolutely. 160 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: In fact, that was my next question into people at 161 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: health New Zealand use private healthcare. You can't really answer it, 162 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure they did. So Look, look, here's 163 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: the thing. The private system works in conjunction with the 164 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: public system, and together they confront the problems that are 165 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: facing New Zealanders in terms of their health care. The 166 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: private care system is beneficial. Should it be demonized. 167 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 8: Like this, there's no point in demonizing it. I fully 168 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 8: understand I don't have health insurance, I should say, but 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 8: I fully understand why many people do and for a 170 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 8: long time a large part of their health service. In fact, 171 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 8: even right from the GP, we have a privatized health 172 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 8: service system. We don't have a fully public system. We 173 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 8: may think we want one, but we don't have it, 174 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 8: and so the private system is an important part of it. 175 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 8: But I think one of the issues we've got and 176 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 8: using it at the moment is that it doesn't help 177 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 8: to demonize the public system. The public system does a 178 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 8: huge number of good things, which the health workers have 179 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 8: made this call fully understand, and many people get fantastic 180 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 8: service from the public system. So it's public system actually 181 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 8: needs some love rather than punishment. And I think if 182 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 8: I was the boss of a health insurance company, every 183 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 8: time to Far to Wara got attacked or the public 184 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 8: health system got attacked, either think that's good. That's another 185 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 8: few people coming in the front door of my business. 186 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 8: So we do have to be careful about that. We 187 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 8: don't want to demonize either side of it. But the 188 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 8: truth is, if you're making big decisions for something like 189 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 8: a public health system, and you yourself are insulated from it, 190 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 8: it will impact your decision making. There's no way it doesn't. 191 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: You had to work with these people. You had to 192 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: work with these senior ministers. Are they, as these open 193 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: letter writers say, out of touch with just how dire 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: the situation is in the health system is? Are they 195 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: in fact insulated perform it or did they understand? 196 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 8: Oh, look, there's no question that they're insulated from it 197 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 8: by the very nature of their job, the way they 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 8: do their job, what they've paid, what they're surrounded by, 199 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 8: the advice that they've got in their ears all the time. 200 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 8: There's no question that they're isolated. Then it is a 201 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 8: problem for our representative democracy. When people are elected. On 202 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 8: the day they're elected, they probably do represent some part 203 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 8: of the electorate, but pretty quickly once they get into 204 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 8: that hot ass atmosphere down there in Wellington, they do 205 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 8: lose touch. There's no question of it. 206 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: Rob, I thank you for your time. There's Rob Campbell, 207 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: the former Health New Zealand chair. By the way, Simeon 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 2: Brown says he doesn't have private health insurance. It's a 209 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: bit of a witch hunt, really. 210 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 11: Have you got it? 211 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: Have you not got it? What have you got? Strange? Now, 212 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: when I was living in France, there was a beer 213 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: there called the Diablow Beer, and beer had a twelve 214 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: percent alcohol level. So if you had one, you were 215 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: pretty happy. If you had two, you were pretty squiffy. 216 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: And if you had three, I tell you you were hallucinating. 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Something about high strength to beer, even if it's the 218 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: same strength as wine. Somehow, maybe it's the bubbles. I 219 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: don't know, it gets into your brain. It's pretty heavy stuff. 220 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Turns out that we've got a whole lot of these big, 221 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: old high alcohol level beers in New Zealand right now, 222 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: and they're going off and kids are buying them. So 223 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: is this a problem and why is it a problem. 224 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: We'll have that story for your next here on News 225 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: Talks at B. It is five twenty. 226 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bol insulation keeping 227 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Kiwi homes warm and dry this winter News Talks at B. 228 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: All right, it is now five twenty two, So alarm 229 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: bells are being raised about these high strength beers taking 230 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: root in the marketplace. Single bottles of beer are being 231 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: sold with alcohol contents ranging from eight percent up to 232 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: as high as sixteen percent. They're being sold in supermarkets. 233 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: Grand Hewison is the secretary at Communities Against Alcohol Harm 234 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: and joins me. Now, Halogrand, good morning, How are you 235 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: very good? Why have these beers suddenly become a thing, 236 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: Why they become so popular? 237 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, these beer products have very high alcohol by 238 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 12: volume content. Back in the day RTDs with that level 239 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 12: of alcohol by content, we're described as court cases in 240 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 12: a can, and the industry came round to the view 241 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 12: that that should be voluntarily prohibited, so they reduced the 242 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 12: volume to seven percent. But now we've sort of seen 243 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 12: the bear market develop into these extra strong and megastrong 244 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 12: beer products. 245 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: And yet my supermarket is full of wine with twelve 246 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: percent alcohol content and they don't call that crime in 247 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 2: a can. 248 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 12: The wine isn't intended to be drunk in one session. 249 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 12: So these are five hundred milk cans. You pop them open, 250 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 12: they're fizzy, They're going to go flat pretty quickly, so 251 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 12: they're designed to be drunk pretty quickly. 252 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 8: So that's that's the risk is do you. 253 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: Have some sort of studies that can actually prove that, 254 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure most people I know who open 255 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: a bottle of wine tend to get through it. 256 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 12: Oh, they're not the sort of people PEPs. I know, 257 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 12: No wine's mine, you know, generally has drunk over the 258 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 12: course of an evening. These are designed to be drunk 259 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 12: in a very quick manner. 260 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I did know. I've already told the story. I've 261 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: had a twelve percent beer in France and it was 262 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: pretty pretty full on. 263 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 6: You know. 264 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: One you were happy to you were squiffly. Three honestly, 265 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: you were hallucinating. Is there something about high alcohol content 266 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: in a carbonated beverage like a beer means that the 267 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: alcohol gets them better? 268 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, it's probably probably just the case that you 269 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 12: drink and consume it much more quickly. What's also important 270 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 12: is that these products are sold as singles, often for 271 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 12: quite a cheap price, under six dollars. 272 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: What's the problem, I sing? 273 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 12: Well, again, you're just consuming it very quickly. It's designed 274 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 12: so that you can PEPs if you're young, you can 275 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 12: secrete them on your person pretty easily. You can purchase 276 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 12: them as a single for a very cheap price. So 277 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 12: they have that high risk associated with them as well. 278 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: So are you just warning against these beers or would 279 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 2: you like them band. 280 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 12: Well, look, this is what the government did back in 281 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 12: twenty thirteen with RTDs of that alcoho bo contents. They 282 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 12: were looking to prohibit them. The industry realized this was 283 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 12: an issue, this was a court case in the can 284 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 12: and the industry came around pretty quickly to saying there's 285 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 12: very high strength products that are carbonated that are in 286 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 12: single cans. We're not what we should be selling good stuff. 287 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: Grant, have you had one? 288 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 12: Have I had one? I've had a taste of one, 289 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 12: the sixteen percent one. Yes, they are not pleasant, but 290 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 12: they will get you intoxicated very quickly. 291 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: God An, Yeah, thank you so much. That's doctor Grant Hewison, 292 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: who is from Communities Against Alcohol Harm. He's the secretary. 293 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: It's five twenty five the early. 294 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: Edition full show podcast on Ihart Radio. Howar By News 295 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: Talks at Me New. 296 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: Talks Have b five twenty seven. It is no secret 297 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: that the construction industry is in trouble and there's a 298 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: number of factors. Firstly, the booming construction right after the 299 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: pandemic years as money became cheaper and cheaper, so more 300 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: and more projects were undertaken, more and more builders were hired. 301 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: We had a residential construction boom in twenty twenty two, 302 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: about fifty one thousand consents issued, driven by surging house 303 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: prices and historically low interest rates. But the good times 304 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: went to last. A new government came in cut many projects, 305 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: like the construction of two and a half thousand state houses, 306 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: cutting builders launches. Meanwhile, the supply of cheap money dried 307 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: up as the Reserve Bank attacked the recession by raising 308 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: interest rates. We ended out with too many builders for 309 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: fewer projects. As major infrastructure projects went on hiatus waiting 310 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: for the government wanting to spend on them, trained, highly 311 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: trained construction workers went looking for work. Most often in Australia, 312 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: they left. Construction went into a tailspin. There are claims 313 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: that we've lost seventeen thousand workers, but in every cloud 314 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: you could almost say there's a silver lining. A new 315 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: report says that construction firms are now offering large discounts 316 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: to avoid collapse. Some are offering discounts of up to 317 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: fifty percent to keep their workers busy. These are in 318 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: the firms that are left. Six hundred and eighty seven 319 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: firms have been liquidated this past year. It's a threefold 320 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: increase in just three years. It hasn't been pleasant. The 321 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: firms that are left and are still doing the business 322 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: should be hailed as heroes prepared to work through the 323 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: bad times rather than cutting and running. And can I 324 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: just say to you, if you're thinking about a commercial 325 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: residential bill, can I suggest there is no better time 326 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: that now. You'll never get a better deal going forward. 327 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: And maybe, just maybe we might be able to work 328 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: our way out of a construction bust, which was all 329 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: our making in the first place. Silly, you know, I 330 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: drank that Diablo beer in France thirty years ago, and 331 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: I drank it just as fast as I drank wine. 332 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: I don't know where grant was coming from. Meanwhile, a 333 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: text through says you can get two hundred and fifty 334 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: million cans of wine at twelve to fourteen percent, designed 335 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: to be drunk in one sitting and not all over 336 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: an evening. Yeah, exactly, So where that came from, I 337 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: don't know. Meanwhile, on the insurance, perhaps you could tell 338 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: people just how much private health insurance costs when you 339 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: get older, writes a text. We have had full comprehensive 340 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: insurance for sixty years. Now in our late seventies is 341 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: going up to over twenty three thousand dollars a year, 342 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: so we won't be able to afford it any more, 343 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: which is probably how most people are, and that is 344 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: going to put a much bigger burden on the public 345 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: health system. There we go on the way much we 346 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: can from the United States of America and Duncan Web 347 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: from the Labor Party because he believes that we're in 348 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: some electoral trouble right now with the new rules. Love 349 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: Adred Dickens. This is early. 350 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Addition the news you need this morning and the in 351 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: depth analysis earlier this year with Andrew Dickens and x 352 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: full insulation keeping Kiwi homes and try this winter news talks. 353 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: That'd be he you were my head and my beer 354 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: when I'm dreaming you trying to be my friend. 355 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 8: You're blown a hole. 356 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: Yes, goodbody too. Ryan Bridge is taking a long weekend, 357 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: so Andrew Dickins here just for one day only. I'm 358 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: here for a good time in a long time. All right, 359 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: stories making news today. I saw this in CNN, and 360 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: I see it's also in the Herald today. The headline 361 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: too much moose meat and Antler's caused a plane crash 362 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: in Alaska that killed congresswoman's husband. Oh what a great headline. 363 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: I could tell you more about this investigation and this story, 364 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: but why bother. It's all there in that headline. Too 365 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: much moose meat and antler's caused the plane crash in 366 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: Alaska that killed congress woman's husband. You've got cluttony, you've 367 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: got trophy hunting, you've got death, you've got carnage, you've 368 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: got cold weather, you've got Alaska, and there's a little 369 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: bit of political spin. It's the perfect story. You can 370 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: tell that story in one sentence. Meanwhile, in business news 371 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: from New Zealand, west Auckland's Flip and Fun trampoline park 372 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: is in Liquiday, victim to an up and down market. 373 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Now to the new electoral laws, I've got 374 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: no problem with them. They demand you enrolled two weeks 375 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: before an election instead of on the day, with a 376 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: move to election day enrolling. It seemed to reward people 377 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: who had not actively engaged in the democratic process. If 378 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: they were engaged, they would have enrolled earlier. As soon 379 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: as the orange letter the orange guy sort of popped 380 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: up on the telly or the letter popped into the 381 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: letter box. You know, people book for concerts months before 382 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: the event with no problem whatsoever. We get passports if 383 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: we want to travel now with New Zealand on the 384 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: top and not Altera Roa, which makes sense because Americans 385 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: know what New Zealand is. But when you say I'm 386 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: from Altairo, they go huh so, yeah, anyway, you can enroll, 387 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: no problem. Suggesting same day enrolling benefited the left is also, 388 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: I think an interesting claim because, as I quote David Seymour, 389 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: drop kicks are dropkicks, no matter their political persuasion. If 390 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: they can't be bothered enrolling, they can't be bothered voting. 391 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: In my opinion, and in combination with the laxity on 392 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: the treating rules, it was a system that was being 393 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: gained and we saw that at the Manual Daba Marai 394 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: last election. Voters who were not engaged in the process 395 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: got tracked into a polling station, they got enrolled, they 396 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: were given a feed from the barbecue and then thrown 397 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 2: into the pole station and then they cast their vote 398 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: for the guys who just cooked them. There's some sausages, 399 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: you know. The increase in donation levels doesn't bother me 400 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 2: either way, And because have you noticed we're in an 401 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: inflationary period, it's up a thousand bucks. Nor does taking 402 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: the vote from prisoners, because they've taken from society. Now, 403 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: whether it's a property or even a life, they've taken 404 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: from society. A crime against society means you lose the 405 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: right to be part of society, which is why we 406 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: lock you up and we also take away your vote. 407 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: But anyway, labors all up in arms about this so 408 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: called attack on democratic rights. So we're going to have 409 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: a chat to Duncan web just before six. It is 410 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: twenty one to six, sid be right around the country. 411 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: We go and first of freezing to need them where 412 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: minus five at the airport? Emily Ansel, goodbrding to you. 413 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 13: Good morning. 414 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: So what's the airport doing in Queenstown and the Remarkable 415 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: Station National Trust? 416 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 13: Yes, so they are both teaming up to restore native biodiversity. 417 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 13: The two organizations partnership focuses on Remarkable Station, nestled between 418 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 13: the mountains and Lake Wakatipu. It is currently leased as 419 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 13: a working deer, cattle and sheep farm. The aim is 420 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 13: to eradicate a sycamore tree infestation, allowing native plants to 421 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 13: regenerate over the coming decade. Queenstown Airport. Sarah Irvine says 422 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 13: the remarkables are the first thing passengers see when they 423 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 13: step off a plane and are an iconic symbol of 424 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 13: the region. 425 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: And the weather's obviously cold. 426 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 13: Yes pretty cold, mainly find apart from morning low cloud 427 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 13: or fog. It's worth noting Southern Police are advising caution 428 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 13: while driving due to the risk of black ice high 429 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 13: cloud increasing from the afternoon with a high of thirteen degrees. 430 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, EMILYE Claire Sherwood from christ It's good morning 431 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: to you. 432 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 9: Good morning. 433 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: So the community's getting together to find a missing woman. 434 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 9: Well and they have done exactly that. Andrew Police used 435 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 9: a mobile emergency alert feature last night to share the 436 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 9: details of this missing woman. It was about eight point 437 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 9: thirty that that started coming through to phones. The alert 438 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 9: said that the seventy nine year old woman who suffers 439 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 9: from a medical condition believed to be dementia, had gone 440 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 9: missing in the suburb of Bishopdale. The community honestly, well 441 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 9: and truly activated. I was watching Facebook. There were dozens 442 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 9: and dozens and dozens of posts popping up of people 443 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 9: getting together, whether it be groups of strangers. Because of 444 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 9: course it was dark. They didn't want to go alone 445 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 9: or friends getting together. They were looking at local schools, 446 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 9: parks gardens. Within two hours, police then confirmed the woman 447 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 9: had been found by one of those members of the 448 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 9: public who had received the emergency text alert. It's remarkable 449 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 9: and a very happy ending for this story. It's a 450 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 9: real contrast though, to the sad story of Elizabeth Nichols, 451 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 9: who was also seventy nine. She died in christ Church 452 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 9: and was found in an abandoned home last month. She'd 453 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 9: been missing for two weeks after god missing from a 454 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 9: local waste time. So praise for police using this emergency 455 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 9: alert system. 456 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: How brisk is your weather today? 457 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 9: It is very cold this morning, frosty minus three at 458 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 9: the moment, will clear to fine with northeries and high 459 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 9: of twelve. 460 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: Thank you Max Tell from Wellington. Good morning to you, 461 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: Good morning to Papa. Has had some global recognition. 462 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 11: Yeah, fantastic news for our National Museum rated trip Advisor's 463 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 11: top tourist attraction in New Zealand, formulated using visitor feedback 464 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 11: and other metrics, not only number one in New Zealand, 465 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 11: but in the top one percent of global attractions, ranked 466 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 11: number five in the South Pacific region. Four point seven 467 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 11: stars is the average visitor rating on this hugely influential website. 468 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 11: Trip Advisor is often what tourists scan when they come here. 469 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 11: What's good? Where should I go? Also an endorsement in 470 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 11: a way of the thirty five dollars entry fee that 471 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 11: started being charged last year for international tourists. Clearly that's 472 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 11: not putting people off four hundred and thirty thousand total 473 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 11: through in the past financial year just from overseas, Australia, 474 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 11: British US most commonly spending on average two hours at 475 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 11: tep Papa. Good news for the capital. 476 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather? 477 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, very cold this morning as well, mostly fine though 478 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 11: once it warms up with north least thirteen the high and. 479 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: I think you never let demander joins you now from Aukland. Hellnreetings. 480 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: So the great Auckland helicopter battle continues. 481 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 10: Yes, the story that keeps on giving. So what's happened 482 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 10: now is that an Aucland Council committee is voted to 483 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 10: urgently clarify and titan how private helicopter use in residential 484 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 10: zones is managed under the Auckland Unitary Plan. Now the councilors, 485 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 10: they're voted to seek an urgent decision from the Environment 486 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 10: caught to clarify how private helicopter activity in the residential 487 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 10: areas on Auckland's mainland they should currently be interpreted under 488 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 10: this plan. Now, the Auckland Unitary Plan applies to all 489 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 10: places in Auckland other than the Hodaki Gulf island. So 490 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 10: they've also voted to initiate a change to the plan 491 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 10: the Unitary Plan to make it explicitly clear that private 492 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 10: helicopter take offs and landings in residential areas still with 493 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 10: me and non complying activities, right, yeah, So obviously this 494 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 10: is with all the what's happening in with Ellie Williamson. 495 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: This is enough to make me want to sell my 496 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: helicopter if I can't use it. Why wasted money? 497 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 7: Why not? 498 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: Exactly, It's just like I just have to take a car. 499 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 10: There's a different angle every day. Exactly, take a car. 500 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: I love your fingernails, by the way. 501 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 10: Oh, orange, bright orange color. 502 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: Yes, what's talking's the like? 503 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 11: Okay? 504 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 7: Maybe fine? 505 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 10: Morning Frost and Charter places Auckland's Eye fifteen and. 506 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 2: I thank you. In the moment, we're off to the 507 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: United States of America. Mit to McCann, Donald Trump making 508 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: the news. He he is a news maker, isn't he. 509 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: But there's the Epstein thing. But the exhauser has battled 510 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: with Columbia University. What's happened there? And Duncan Web the 511 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: Labor Justice spokesperson. They're up in arms about the elector rules. 512 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: Though after my comments just moments ago, I'm getting people 513 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: saying I agree with that common sense if you asked me. 514 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: So we'll see what why Duncan has our problem with 515 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: this whole new scenario. Very shortly here on ZB This 516 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: is early edition that is sixteen to. 517 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: Six International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of 518 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business to America. 519 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: We go. Mitch McCain, Good morning to you, Good morning, 520 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: how are you. I'm good. The Epstein case continues, and 521 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 2: now Jela Maxwell is going to talk with the Department 522 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: of Justice. 523 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. This is a story that really is 524 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 7: not going away for Donald Trump, no matter what he 525 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 7: does to make that happen. The latest information is that 526 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 7: the Deputy Attorney General, as you mentioned, who also used 527 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 7: to be Donald Trump's personal lawyer, is reportedly flying to Tallahassee, Florida, 528 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 7: where gillais Maxwell is serving a twenty year prison sentence 529 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 7: for six trafficking Now. The reason he's going there is 530 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: to find out if she can give any more information 531 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 7: about Jeffrey Epstein or anyone else that was involved with 532 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 7: Epstein and committed any crimes. Some would argue this might 533 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 7: be an attempt from the White House to look like 534 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 7: they're doing something after not releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files. 535 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 7: But the story is not going away, and the President 536 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 7: has become increasingly infuriated every time he gets asked about it. 537 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. I Meanwhile, he's been battling with Columbia University, so 538 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: where's that got to. 539 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 7: He has also been battling the number of universities around 540 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 7: the country. Overnight, we learned that Columbia University has agreed 541 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 7: to a settlement with the government. They're going to pay 542 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 7: around two hundred million dollars. This is after the Trump 543 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 7: administration froze about four hundred million dollars worth of grants 544 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 7: to Columbia earlier this year because it said it failed 545 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 7: to combat anti semitism on campus. Stuff agreed now to 546 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 7: pay that two hundred million dollars, so some of those 547 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 7: grants become unfrozen. Critics saying this is just another example 548 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 7: of Donald Trump bullying higher education institutions because he sees 549 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 7: them as too liberal. 550 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: Because stuff. Oh and sad news Hogan has died. The 551 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: wrestling star at the age of seventy one. Were you 552 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: a fan, a. 553 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 7: Little bit of a fan, a little bit of a fan, 554 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 7: perhaps same story though it. 555 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you had to love his peroxided mustache and 556 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: his propensity for ripping his shirt into pieces and then 557 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: yelling at everybody. Of course, he's a big fan of 558 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: Donald Trump as well. Hey, I thank you so much much, mcam. Meanwhile, 559 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, the UN agency there says staff 560 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: of fainting from hunger. As starvation spreads in Gaza. Journalists 561 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: are saying that they're fainting because they're starving. The United 562 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: Nations Relief from Works agency says the entire humanitarian system 563 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: is collapsing. And the agency says people in Gaza are 564 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 2: walking corpses and they say, we've got six thousand AID 565 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: trucks ready to enter, just let us in. Meanwhile, Israeli 566 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: officials have called the Hamas truce proposal workable, come on quickly, 567 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: but for God's say, give the buggers some food. You've 568 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: destroyed their houses, Just give them some food. This will 569 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: not be judged well by history News talkb. It is 570 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: ten to six. 571 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 8: Zibb. 572 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: Right, Well, major changes are coming on how you can 573 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: vote in the general elections. The government's scraps same day enrollments, 574 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: meaning must now enrolled to vote before early voting starts. 575 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: You've got to do that two weeks before election day. 576 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: And free food, drinks and entertainment of voting booths will 577 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: also be banned. Labor says tens of thousands of people 578 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: will miss out on exercising their democratic right to vote 579 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: as a result of today's changes. And Duncan web is 580 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: Labor's just a spokesperson and joins you this morning quantity 581 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: of Duncan. 582 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 6: Good morning, Good for you. 583 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: Now, why is this limiting democracy? A deadline is a deadline, 584 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: whether it's on the day or two weeks beforehand. Just 585 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: go out there and enroll. 586 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 6: Well, look, I guess the numbers speak for themselves. There 587 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 6: are one hundred and ten thousand people who didn't get 588 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 6: round to sorting out their enrollment prior to election day 589 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 6: for whatever reason. You know, busy people working, people looking 590 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: after kids and so. But and then they decide, Gee, 591 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 6: I forgot that I want to vote. I'm going to 592 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 6: go down. What do you know, I can do it 593 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 6: right here. And I think that those hundred and ten 594 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 6: thousand people actually have as much right to have a 595 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 6: say and who runs the country as anyone else does. 596 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: But there's an obligation when you get a vote, and 597 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: one of those obligations is to enroll. And they obviously 598 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: didn't think much of the election, and they weren't involved 599 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: in the democratic process if they couldn't get enrolled two 600 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: weeks before the election, there. 601 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 6: Is an obligation to be enrolled. And you know, I'm 602 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 6: sure a lot of people appreciate that. When you're moving 603 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 6: houses and you know, you've got a lot on your mind, 604 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 6: you don't always think and I've got to get hold 605 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 6: of the Electoral Commission and let them know my new address. 606 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: Dunk in the letter and the ad campaign arrives months 607 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: before the election. You got plenty of time. Two weeks 608 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: is the deadline. Get You could have done it three 609 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: months ago before you were moving. 610 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 6: Oh, you know, the ad campaign's out there. Not everyone's 611 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 6: watching TV and looking at those kinds of things. So 612 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 6: you've got to remember these are people, mainly people who 613 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 6: have moved, so the letter which sometimes doesn't arrive, but 614 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 6: often goes to the older address, not the new one. 615 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 6: So there's all kind of administrative reasons why people might 616 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 6: not enroll to vote. And if you're going to say, well, look, 617 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 6: if you're not onto it, you don't remember that you've 618 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 6: got to change your enrollment every time your move house, 619 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 6: and a lot of people move houses frequently. Students are 620 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 6: a great example of that. 621 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: Okay, well, there's a lot of people who are insinuating 622 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: that the reason you are defending the right to enroll 623 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: on the election day is because you believe later rollers 624 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: are left voters. 625 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 6: Are you no, Look, I think this is about everyone. 626 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 6: There's all kinds of reasons people will forget to change 627 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 6: their enrollment details. Some of them will be left, some 628 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 6: of them won't. But every single vote counts, and I'd 629 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 6: rather have an enrollment system where everyone gets a crack. 630 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 6: They're one where you know, two electorates worth, some people 631 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 6: don't get to vote because they weren't quite onto it. 632 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: Okay, what about the treating the food, the drink and 633 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: the entertainment. I mean that is actually a very minor bribe, 634 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: is it? 635 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 5: Not. 636 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 6: You look, the rules around serving food or drinks and 637 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 6: so on around the voting have always been a bit murky, 638 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 6: and we actually support it and recommended in the Select committee. 639 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 6: Did there be some changes around us? 640 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 8: So it's really really. 641 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 6: Good clarification to say, look, one hundred meters of a 642 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 6: voting place, you can't be offering sausages or hungy or whatever. 643 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 8: It might be good. 644 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: Soeff Duncan, I thank you for your time this morning. Duncan. 645 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: We're Labor spokesperson. It is now seven minutes too is 646 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: thank you mate, let me go, I've got them off 647 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: here now, Labor spokes It is now seven minutes to six. 648 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early 649 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi 650 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: homes warm and dry this winter news talks that'd be. 651 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: Well, you're not quite on duncan website, Andrew, People who 652 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: aren't quite onto it aligned perfectly with all Labor Party candidates. 653 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: Come on, Duncan, how about we reward the organized and 654 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: not the hopeless. Yeah, and Mike Hoskin joins, us, I 655 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: saw your new car today. It's very low, very not 656 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: as low as they come, but it's still very low, 657 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, I'm thinking, there's got to be an 658 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: old man grunt every time you get no. 659 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 14: I actually pride myself. I had a car and I 660 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 14: won't tell you what it was, but I had a 661 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 14: car that had bucket seats, racing seats. There was a 662 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 14: grunt there because that's hard work. But this has got 663 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 14: standard seats and I just glide in and out in 664 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 14: a really flexible love life. 665 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: I've been saying, old man Grant ever since we did 666 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: a radio telethon thing and you came down as a 667 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: special guest and you've broken your tailbone and you got. 668 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 14: Off, and I hadn't broken it, but I remember that distinctly. 669 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 14: That was literaly and you chopped up on the seat 670 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 14: and went and we all went, Oh, man Grant. My 671 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 14: brother in law and I were on a scooter. I 672 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 14: was on the back of the scooter in Rome and 673 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 14: he went over. I saw it coming. I saw the 674 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 14: bump on the road coming, and I thought, this is 675 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 14: the end of the world. 676 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: The passenger always be the driver. 677 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 14: The passenger exactly right. I can't tell you what Paul 678 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 14: Goldsmith is going to tell us, but there's a thing 679 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 14: coming out today in the justice area. 680 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: Why is it a margot? 681 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 14: I have no idea, so he could come on my 682 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 14: program and reveal it to the world. 683 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 2: Whatever you're talking to, Nichola Willis, I am she is. 684 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: I loved your Mike's minute the other day. It was 685 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: very good writing. 686 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 14: Well, I'll ask her about that. And to be honest, 687 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 14: the Ryan who I note has taken a Friday off. 688 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 14: He was defending her, saying she knows, but it was 689 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 14: all the political game. 690 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, you can only do that so many times. 691 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I agree. 692 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 14: So anyway, she's will us toick. 693 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. I am not working next week. 694 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 695 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 696 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.