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Speaker 3: It's the Health Hub and joining us. He is a
Speaker 3: personal trainer at body Talk. I love a good pun
Speaker 3: t O r q u E. Of course body Talk
Speaker 3: it's all about energy momentum. And his name is Alex Flint.
Speaker 3: How Alex, how are you? Oh, hang on a minute,
Speaker 3: I'll just tell on your microphone then you can say
Speaker 3: it again. You're good.
Speaker 4: I'm really good, Tim, Thanks for me.
Speaker 3: Excellently looking forward to the Christmas season. Yeah you've noticed
Speaker 3: the tinsel has gone up around the studio.
Speaker 4: Yeah I have. It's been a lovely touch since.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Hey, look we're going to talk about well home workouts,
Speaker 3: but you know, you know when you should use a
Speaker 3: personal trainer and and what you should why people use
Speaker 3: personal trainers for one, but the fun one I also
Speaker 3: want to touch on, just to get the conversation rolling,
Speaker 3: as the worst or the best piece of home workout
Speaker 3: equipment you've ever owned, And there would have been a
Speaker 3: time when Alex Flint didn't know much about exercise, so
Speaker 3: you may have been that teenager in his room with
Speaker 3: the chest expander and the bullworker, thinking that there was
Speaker 3: going to make you look like the guy in the ads.
Speaker 4: What's guilty as charged?
Speaker 3: What's the worst ever piece of exercise equipment you've ever owned?
Speaker 4: I've had a lot, really. Yeah. At fourteen years of age,
Speaker 4: was had every muscle fitness magazine, and I think I
Speaker 4: had collected probably in the vicinity of half a dozen
Speaker 4: to a dozen home exercise pieces of equipment, all which
Speaker 4: were pretty much useless and gave me no results when
Speaker 4: compared to the person that I saw in the ad,
Speaker 4: who was like an Adonis. So well creaiting for that
Speaker 4: to happen.
Speaker 3: Do you think those I mean, I wonder when people
Speaker 3: ever work out that the person who's advertising the abdominizer
Speaker 3: amazing probably has only held an abominizer in their hands
Speaker 3: during the ad and the rest of the time they're
Speaker 3: doing other things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure if they'd even know what the
Speaker 4: name of the equipment was, to be honest, but yeah,
Speaker 4: they seemed to be able to find the very most
Speaker 4: athletically gifted and beautiful looking people to advertise. But yeah,
Speaker 4: they don't. They definitely don't use them.
Speaker 3: I had the chest expander was my first piece. I
Speaker 3: think the thirteen or fourteen year old boy the testosterones hit.
Speaker 3: You don't know what to do with yourself. You think
Speaker 3: I need I look like I still looked like an
Speaker 3: eleven year old. But I've got all these hormones coursing thrown.
Speaker 3: I've got to transform myself. And I bought the chest expander,
Speaker 3: which was the thing with two handles and a bunch
Speaker 3: of chains. That was the running gag was I think
Speaker 3: you could put there were springs, five springs, and depending
Speaker 3: on your strength, you would have either one, two, three,
Speaker 3: four or five and I think three was hard enough.
Speaker 3: And it was a bit of a running gag with
Speaker 3: friends about the guy who was only using the one spring.
Speaker 4: And ironically the biggest thing about that, you know, you
Speaker 4: buy it as a chest expander and it's not actually
Speaker 4: even using you it's bad pixels. Yeah, it's using your
Speaker 4: back muscles. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I did wonder about that. I thought, you know, any
Speaker 3: of your what did you have and was there something
Speaker 3: that actually was quite useful?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the first one that came to mind, and
Speaker 4: I do remember buying it and I would have been fourteen.
Speaker 4: Was the abdominizer. I was trying to think of the
Speaker 4: name of it here that you reminded me just as
Speaker 4: we started, and that was like an ab roller, so
Speaker 4: it was on the ground. It was like you put
Speaker 4: your head on a pad and then put your arms
Speaker 4: up in the air and sort of rock back and
Speaker 4: forth and basically did a crunch. And I think I
Speaker 4: saved up all my paper money for goodness knows how
Speaker 4: many weeks to buy that to pretty much do an
Speaker 4: abdominal crunch on the floor.
Speaker 3: But actually, because there is a way of doing that
Speaker 3: with a dumb bell with handles on each side where
Speaker 3: you're sort of lying down a press up position, you
Speaker 3: roll out and you go back, there's something and that
Speaker 3: isn't that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. I think at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, marketing gets us at the majority of home
Speaker 4: exercise equipment purchase late at night. So and I even
Speaker 4: know that from my own from my own gym, that
Speaker 4: a lot of members sign up when they're when they're
Speaker 4: in bed later on in the in the evening, when
Speaker 4: they're thinking about doing something. Uh, And that happens very
Speaker 4: much with home exercise equipment. So the times that we
Speaker 4: buy am probably our motivation is there because we think
Speaker 4: in tomorrow is going to be the day that I start.
Speaker 4: We see the marketing and purchase away, but never really
Speaker 4: use them unfortunately.
Speaker 3: And I think, of course we're thinking of that infomercial
Speaker 3: driven sort of exercise machines, and I think, you know,
Speaker 3: let's not say, if you've bought yourself a home a
Speaker 3: full home gym with free weights and all that in
Speaker 3: the equipment, that's when that's not what we're really talking about.
Speaker 3: But there is one piece of exercise equipment somebody's just
Speaker 3: reminded me on the text, which is legit if you've
Speaker 3: got the budget to get a decent one, and that's
Speaker 3: a rowing machine.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely yeah, But what is it.
Speaker 3: With see rowing machines? It's obviously it's not still not
Speaker 3: going to expand that chest that But what's what's so
Speaker 3: good about a rowing machine?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think, just to be fair and to clarify things,
Speaker 4: there is some absolutely fantastic home exercise equipment out there.
Speaker 4: Probably the biggest thing that we can use to justify
Speaker 4: it is actually and clarify it is the cost of
Speaker 4: the purchase. So if you're buying something which you're also
Speaker 4: going to see in a commercial environment. You know, for example,
Speaker 4: a rowing machine that you'll also see in a gym.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a great bit of equipment and it's
Speaker 4: going to be around long enough to use it. A
Speaker 4: lot of the stuff that we see on infomercials, that's
Speaker 4: where the issues lie because they're cheap, they don't last
Speaker 4: very long, and they don't necessarily give us much of
Speaker 4: a workout really, and so you know, there's a big
Speaker 4: differentiation in terms of what's great gear for home and
Speaker 4: what's not. So the first thing that is really fantastic home,
Speaker 4: and it's interesting that that's the first one that's come
Speaker 4: up in the text, is a rowing machine. So a
Speaker 4: rowing machine full body exercise, great for cutting vascular work,
Speaker 4: also great for muscular strengths, uses all your back muscles,
Speaker 4: your leg muscles. That's also great if your posture, as
Speaker 4: long as you use it properly, so you're getting all
Speaker 4: of these bang few buck things in one machine.
Speaker 3: I've always hated the rowing machines at the gym. When
Speaker 3: that you know, you go and see a personal trainer
Speaker 3: and they say let's get on the rowing machine. I'm like, ah,
Speaker 3: just I, just I don't know what, but I mean,
Speaker 3: is there anything it's it's not it's not working your
Speaker 3: chest out, is it?
Speaker 4: No? Not really no?
Speaker 3: Does it matter?
Speaker 4: Well? I mean yeah, I mean there's no one exercise
Speaker 4: that's going to be great for everything. We need multiple
Speaker 4: things and it's the same. Rowing is a fantastic form
Speaker 4: of cardiovascular work and it uses a reasonablemount of muscular
Speaker 4: strength and power. But like anything, there's not really a
Speaker 4: one size fits all exercise or machine.
Speaker 3: Actually that does sound like also a talkback question, to
Speaker 3: be honest. I mean, what is if you're going to
Speaker 3: do one excess? If you're going to do one thing,
Speaker 3: what should it be for me? Up until the point
Speaker 3: your knees go? And Greg Pain's going to call me
Speaker 3: in a moment saying, what do you mean your need
Speaker 3: is going? You're running wrong? But I would argue that
Speaker 3: the best piece of home exercise equipment you can get
Speaker 3: as a decent pair of running shoes.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, Ben Guy Beverage for the one. That's the one.
Speaker 4: If there's one thing that you can do, get yourself
Speaker 4: a pair of running shoes and get outside, start running,
Speaker 4: and if that's walking, to start with Greg Pains and
Speaker 4: men to talk more about getting people into it, you know,
Speaker 4: effectively in a safe way. But yeah, absolutely running is
Speaker 4: number one. Having said that, there is a big reason
Speaker 4: why we need to include strength training as well.
Speaker 3: Well, that's actually part of our conversation. We wanted to
Speaker 3: have this affternoon because and some of the conversations that
Speaker 3: we come up with, you know, is a discussion with
Speaker 3: myself and my producer and other people around. But this
Speaker 3: one's come from me because I'm walking, because I've had
Speaker 3: to take a break from running for a few weeks
Speaker 3: just to let a knee settle down. And it's one
Speaker 3: of the things my physio who doesn't like to tell
Speaker 3: me what to do, but she has not set a
Speaker 3: no to it in the way that's I think she's
Speaker 3: telling me I should do strength training again. And I
Speaker 3: used to go to do strength training with the four
Speaker 3: major well you know, we had left squats and a
Speaker 3: couple of others. And so here's the question is around
Speaker 3: when should you use a personal trainer? Is it when
Speaker 3: you are and why do people use personal trainers because
Speaker 3: everyone have a different reason. For me, I would use
Speaker 3: a personal trainer to get good professional advice because I
Speaker 3: can motivate myself to turn up, whereas other people get
Speaker 3: a personal trainer because it's an appointment they.
Speaker 4: Have to keep.
Speaker 3: But let's talk about when it is advisable or very
Speaker 3: helpful to have a personal trainer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question, and probably tim your I
Speaker 4: would say, a reasonably motivated exerciser and something that's you
Speaker 4: know on your mind? Would you say it?
Speaker 3: Actually, only because I found something I really enjoy and
Speaker 3: I finally got over the hump of running. I used
Speaker 3: to hate running, and then I did it enough that
Speaker 3: I now it's I will miss it if I couldn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So the number one reason when people are interviewed
Speaker 4: and they've been in involved in personal training for a
Speaker 4: long period of time is believe it or not, it's
Speaker 4: out of accountability and motivation is the number one reason.
Speaker 3: So it's a date. Basically, I've got a date with Alex.
Speaker 3: I can't make it. Even though I'm paying them. I'm
Speaker 3: going to let them down if I'm not there.
Speaker 4: Regardless of how you know the experience and the expertise
Speaker 4: of the personal trainer, it's the fact that someone's waiting
Speaker 4: there for you, and that's a hard thing to stand
Speaker 4: someone up. Yeah, So that's the first reason. So just
Speaker 4: being accountable and turning up and having someone waiting for
Speaker 4: you is the number one reason, followed relatively closely by
Speaker 4: expertise and professionalism. So obviously in your case, you know,
Speaker 4: if you feel like you need to get back into
Speaker 4: strength training and it's something that you want to complement
Speaker 4: your running, then just going to the gym and starting
Speaker 4: any old programs probably not the right way to go.
Speaker 4: You want something which is specific enough to not only
Speaker 4: help you run, but maybe also help you stay injury
Speaker 4: free or get over any injuries. So that's I guess
Speaker 4: where the expertise of a good trainer will lie is
Speaker 4: being able to set you up with the right programs
Speaker 4: for what you're out.
Speaker 3: How do you identify a good personal trainer? Because there
Speaker 3: will be those who are qualified, and there will be
Speaker 3: those who've not necessarily qualified, but they've been doing it
Speaker 3: for twenty years and they've learned on the job, and
Speaker 3: that's a legitimate way of becoming good at what you
Speaker 3: do as well. But how do you actually, yeah, how
Speaker 3: do you choose a personal trainer? Apart from obviously Alex Flint, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well you.
Speaker 4: Could always choose me. Now, I think the biggest thing
Speaker 4: that I've found. I'm almost fifty now, and through my
Speaker 4: own experience, I feel that it's very important that your
Speaker 4: trainer has empathy for your position, and they almost might
Speaker 4: have been through a similar stage either in their life,
Speaker 4: or they've been through a similar weight loss journey, or
Speaker 4: it might be you know that they've got similar sort
Speaker 4: of motivations or goals or backgrounds. So that is something
Speaker 4: which I believe is very important. So you're looking for
Speaker 4: a trainer which is aligned, I guess with yourself, and
Speaker 4: they've probably got a background that means you're going to
Speaker 4: have similarities. One of the biggest things that I've found
Speaker 4: over time is when I was young, training people that
Speaker 4: were say twenty to thirty years older than me, I
Speaker 4: just didn't know how their bodies felt. I didn't understand
Speaker 4: injuries the same way I didn't understand the drag that
Speaker 4: and not having energy because you've got kids and family
Speaker 4: and you know these types of things that can pull
Speaker 4: you down. So probably I wasn't as effective training people
Speaker 4: that were twenty years older than me when I was
Speaker 4: in my twenties because I just didn't understand. So as
Speaker 4: time's gone on, me being able to I guess experience
Speaker 4: some of those things myself has also made me experience
Speaker 4: it in a way that I have to get better myself.
Speaker 4: But also I've got more empathy and more understanding of
Speaker 4: how to get the results with certain people.
Speaker 3: Does that I guess that means you've changed the way
Speaker 3: you do business. I almost wondered whether because this is
Speaker 3: the thing, people are impatient. They make an appointment, they
Speaker 3: arranged to meet a personal trainer, and probably the most
Speaker 3: frustrating thing is for the clients, So they just expect
Speaker 3: you to pull out a program, right, let's get into it,
Speaker 3: We're onto it, when probably the first thing you want
Speaker 3: to do is interview them and chat to them and
Speaker 3: get their priorities where they're like, yes, I want to
Speaker 3: get in good shape. Yes, yes, yes, But that is
Speaker 3: a huge part of it, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. When people are ready to go, they
Speaker 4: make their appointment to see their trainer, or you know,
Speaker 4: they start googling online. The motivation factor means that it
Speaker 4: is important that they get off to a quick start
Speaker 4: and start to see some results, but it's also equally
Speaker 4: as important that we make sure that there's a long
Speaker 4: term process put into place, because often I think you know,
Speaker 4: associated with personal trainers is you know, short term six
Speaker 4: week programs, twelve week programs. We often have people coming
Speaker 4: to us at the gym that just want to do
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, you know, big kickstart. But the
Speaker 4: problem with that is your risk of injury and your
Speaker 4: risk of overdoing it is highest at the start. So
Speaker 4: it's almost like there's got to be a pulling back
Speaker 4: of expectations and a more long term outlook.
Speaker 3: So for someone who's getting okay, and look, this is
Speaker 3: my situation, but there be a lot of people like it,
Speaker 3: especially when you've been around a few years. You've been
Speaker 3: into a few gyms, you've been out of them, You've
Speaker 3: done different exercises, you've done different routines, and you think, oh, look,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go back and I'll do that
Speaker 3: simple routine I did five years ago. But intuitively, I'm
Speaker 3: telling myself that I shouldn't just go into the gym
Speaker 3: and do that stuff. I should really do it supervised.
Speaker 3: That sounds to me because I just I don't really
Speaker 3: want to. I just I feel I just want to
Speaker 3: rip into it. But my brain's my little Jim and
Speaker 3: E Cricket's going no, no, don't do that alone. Go
Speaker 3: and see someone and just get them to not nurse
Speaker 3: you through it. But you know what I mean, would
Speaker 3: that be your advice?
Speaker 4: That's a really sensible way to go about it. I mean,
Speaker 4: exercise is relatively simple. What we need to do. You know,
Speaker 4: we need to be consistent. If we're strength training, we
Speaker 4: need to pick effective exercises, we need to do enough
Speaker 4: of it, and we need to do it regularly enough.
Speaker 4: Same with cardiovascular work, same with mobility inflexibility work. But
Speaker 4: really one of the most important things with this is
Speaker 4: that you almost have a blueprint and you understand how
Speaker 4: your body works where it's at, and you meet your
Speaker 4: body with a program which is effective for where your
Speaker 4: body is at the moment. So even if we talk
Speaker 4: about five ten years ago, what worked for you then
Speaker 4: may not work for you the same now. And one
Speaker 4: of the things that I really recommend that everyone starts
Speaker 4: with with a good trainer or just going to a
Speaker 4: gym is actually getting a very effective and reasonably sort
Speaker 4: of lengthy assessment program which will give you a blueprint
Speaker 4: for where you're at.
Speaker 3: What's that? What's an assessment program?
Speaker 4: So what we do is we do some body scans
Speaker 4: seen a match fit we do. We look at it
Speaker 4: if I want to know, what the hell's that? Oh
Speaker 4: that's you, Yeah, so that's you know. We look at
Speaker 4: blood pressure, we look at resting heart rate. If someone
Speaker 4: can we get them to go to the doctor and
Speaker 4: get some blood tests just so we know that those
Speaker 4: types of things are safe. But that also then means, okay,
Speaker 4: we know what your health is like, and if you've
Speaker 4: got a healthy body, you've got a responsive body. If
Speaker 4: you've got a body which is not so healthy, that
Speaker 4: should be your first priority because often if you take
Speaker 4: an unhealthy body and push it hard, you're just asking
Speaker 4: for you're asking for trouble. So assessments number one and
Speaker 4: then figuring out from that what your strengths and weaknesses
Speaker 4: are and then tailoring the program based on that. So
Speaker 4: if we find, you know, that someone comes in for
Speaker 4: an assessment and they're in really good health and they've
Speaker 4: said that their goals are they want to get a
Speaker 4: bit stronger, or maybe they've you know, they've got a
Speaker 4: half marathon goal, we know we can pretty much move
Speaker 4: straight into that. For someone else, they might have really
Speaker 4: bad knees which are preventing them from being able to
Speaker 4: participate in what they would really love to do later on.
Speaker 4: So the first step for them should be some sort
Speaker 4: of rehabilitation program to see how we can get on
Speaker 4: and move them down the track.
Speaker 2: Is there.
Speaker 3: I've to generalize, but is there an age where people
Speaker 3: are more inclined to seek, you know, a personal trainer,
Speaker 3: because obviously you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one year old.
Speaker 3: You know, they've got mates, been to the gym, they
Speaker 3: probably played sport. They're just going to rip in there
Speaker 3: with their mates.
Speaker 4: Whereas TikTok is a big I really plays a big
Speaker 4: part in that as well. Now really yeah, so in
Speaker 4: the younger age groups, might I've got daughters, you know,
Speaker 4: they both my fifteen year old she I noticed she
Speaker 4: starts she's looking more into exercise online. But you know
Speaker 4: the rise of influencers and there is to be fair.
Speaker 3: There'd be some good ones, but there'd be some rubbish ones.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit of a minefield, like there's
Speaker 4: some really really good ones and just within the field.
Speaker 4: Obviously I sort of follow a lot of that sort
Speaker 4: of stuff myself, and there is I think over the
Speaker 4: last probably twelve months, there's been a rise in what
Speaker 4: you kind of I guess call the rise of sensible advice,
Speaker 4: where yeah, there's a sort of almost like a real
Speaker 4: attack or an exposing of the ones which are you know,
Speaker 4: look great but don't necessarily care about anything but themselves,
Speaker 4: or they don't have a lot of education or experience
Speaker 4: in training others.
Speaker 3: That's a trend that's creeping in that the internet's getting smarter, Yeah,
Speaker 3: getting more sensible.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, that's great. It's yeah, it's long overdue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will want to take your cause on this.
Speaker 3: And if you've got any questions for Alex, he's a
Speaker 3: personal trainer at body Talk and he's well known. He's
Speaker 3: been on You've been on TV. But Getting exports people
Speaker 3: to get back into shape. I can't remember what the
Speaker 3: name of that show was, match Fit, Match for that's
Speaker 3: the one.
Speaker 4: We've had four seasons of match Fit and we've just
Speaker 4: got a new one coming out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really is it all under wraps?
Speaker 4: It's under wraps, change of players, change of genders, still legendary.
Speaker 4: Exports now exports women from around about the same era
Speaker 4: that also won World Cups. A bit of stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you off here and keep it
Speaker 3: to myself right. We'll be back in just moment. You
Speaker 3: got any questions for Alex, give us a call eight
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty, ten to eighty. But also if
Speaker 3: you specifically want to contribute on one of the topics
Speaker 3: I've thrown out there. Have you bought a piece of
Speaker 3: home exercise equipment which is either fabulous and you swear,
Speaker 3: but and you've never looked back and it's changed your
Speaker 3: life or maybe not so much. Eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: ten eighty. It's twenty five past four.
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Speaker 2: up the tree and round the presents. Time the Christmas newsical.
Speaker 2: It's Christmas Alby Hall with bells. I travel around this
Speaker 2: country across the water is dealing work me.
Speaker 3: You don't like some friends. You know what we use
Speaker 3: not joy ogla.
Speaker 2: It's Christmas time again and the a year is coming gold,
Speaker 2: and I can't dream bender how it longs out. So
Speaker 2: I'm bed with bells off. I'm behol with bells off
Speaker 2: do tree from the present time. Christmas Eve is gold.
Speaker 4: It's Christmas Alvey Home with bels.
Speaker 3: I'm ashamed to say that. Initially when I heard this,
Speaker 3: I was like, who the hell is this? And then
Speaker 3: my progesser says it's Dolly and Kenny. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: how's this disgraceful? I didn't know that, and then I
Speaker 3: listen and I go, of course it's it's Dolly parton
Speaker 3: Kenny Kenny Rogers. Anyway, welcome back to show on Tim
Speaker 3: Beveriges is the weekend collective of the health Up. My
Speaker 3: guest is a personal trainer at body Talk and his
Speaker 3: name is Alex Flint, and we're talking about well, when
Speaker 3: do you need a personal trainer and why you know
Speaker 3: you can give us. We'd love to have your calls.
Speaker 3: If you've got any questions for Alex. Of course you
Speaker 3: can give us a call as well and just pick
Speaker 3: his brains on maybe an exercise issue or getting fit,
Speaker 3: or a well being issue you want to have a
Speaker 3: chat with him about. On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
Speaker 3: we had a bunch of texts to get into, so
Speaker 3: we'll start off with a few of those. Shaw we Alex, Oh,
Speaker 3: well here's one of us. We'll just read this out.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if what was sent through by one
Speaker 3: of your friends or something, but it says hi, Tim
Speaker 3: a big shout out to Alex and the work he
Speaker 3: and his team do it body talk. He's been a
Speaker 3: supportive influence on my health journey. Dropped forty kilos. No
Speaker 3: longer Oh this is quite amazing. No longer a type
Speaker 3: too diabetic and now found the enjoyment and exercise the
Speaker 3: key good nutrition, setting, a realistic goal, no goal, no purpose,
Speaker 3: Realize you'll have ups and downs and surround yourself with
Speaker 3: positive like minded people. Stay consistent, and a coffee at
Speaker 3: five This is what you're talking about me in the
Speaker 3: break you said, a coffee at five thirty am gym
Speaker 3: class for mental health. Thanks Alex.
Speaker 4: That's some Tony to thank you. Tony. That's pretty awesome though,
Speaker 4: wasn't it. Yeah, he's an amazing fellow, Tony. He's done
Speaker 4: exceptionally well and he's an example of someone who's had
Speaker 4: clarity the whole time through. So he's very clear on
Speaker 4: what he needed to do. He had his assessments like
Speaker 4: we talked about, he knew what he needed to do
Speaker 4: and he just broke that down into micro goals and
Speaker 4: he's done nothing but achieve them all the way along.
Speaker 3: Is it easier to have a clarity and purpose when
Speaker 3: you he's mentioned there type two diabetes and things. When
Speaker 3: you've had a health whammy and you've it's very clarifying
Speaker 3: when you get news, isn't it.
Speaker 4: You'd like to think so, but anecdotally and just through
Speaker 4: personal experience, it doesn't work for everyone. So for a
Speaker 4: lot of people that actually almost makes them feel more
Speaker 4: helpless and they don't know what to do, so it
Speaker 4: can become actually quite a hindrance. You would like to
Speaker 4: think that, you know, if you get some diagnosis or
Speaker 4: some bad news, that that's the kickstart to you getting
Speaker 4: on and changing everything in your life. But unfortunately, know that,
Speaker 4: you know, health statistics don't don't work like that. So
Speaker 4: you've got to be driven and you've got to be motivated,
Speaker 4: and it's and it is really important to have good
Speaker 4: people around you.
Speaker 3: On the On the exercise equipment, by the way, which
Speaker 3: was your worst piece of exercise equipment? You said you
Speaker 3: had bought about a bunch of things. So I threw
Speaker 3: that up at the top at the top of the
Speaker 3: show because I love a good trivial topic. What was
Speaker 3: the worst piece of exercise equipment you bought?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a chess expander. Yeah, yeah, there was.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember, there was one.
Speaker 3: Called a bull worker, So that was the one where
Speaker 3: you had.
Speaker 4: The springs and you brought this brings together. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: that I was actually too much of a pipsqueak to
Speaker 4: even use it. It was too strong for me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the best thing about the chest expander was
Speaker 3: when you know, boys were hitting that age where they're
Speaker 3: growing a bit of body here and they'd snags some
Speaker 3: chest hairs, and the chest expanderre chest. If you can
Speaker 3: open the thing up at all, it was just about
Speaker 3: pretty impossible to deal with. Somebody else that says here
Speaker 3: the abdominizer ad used to crack me up. The selling
Speaker 3: point was you'll never need another abdominal I can't even
Speaker 3: say it, you'll never need another abdominal product. As if
Speaker 3: obviously they're they're marketing to people who buy everything that's
Speaker 3: on the infomercials on't they Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. The statistics are that home exercise equipment this is
Speaker 4: a few years old, and we're talking about equipment that
Speaker 4: has brought off infomercials is used long term less than
Speaker 4: ten percent. So if you buy it, there's a ninety
Speaker 4: percent chance that you'll probably use it less than three times.
Speaker 3: But that makes sense on me, doesn't it. Imagine if
Speaker 3: you met someone who was like, how I bought the abdominis,
Speaker 3: I use it every day and literally if they like
Speaker 3: postles on that, it's changed my life. Now, actually, let's
Speaker 3: get into this thing about for people who are wanting
Speaker 3: to get into a new exercise regime, what is an
Speaker 3: accessible way to deal with it? Where Because a lot
Speaker 3: of people, cost is relevant, and there are those who
Speaker 3: can afford to have a personal trainer, you know, every
Speaker 3: session or every third session every week, But what are
Speaker 3: the pragmatically, what are the practical ways of getting some
Speaker 3: good in put so you don't ruin yourself on your
Speaker 3: first outing.
Speaker 4: There is probably the most simple way to do it
Speaker 4: is just to start by looking inwardly at what is
Speaker 4: it that you think is missing in terms of bringing
Speaker 4: you up to being a healthier version of you. So,
Speaker 4: first of all, obviously you're going to be you know
Speaker 4: what your your goals are, and then the very first
Speaker 4: thing is just sitting down and saying, Okay, where do
Speaker 4: I need to get to and how am I going
Speaker 4: to get there? So if that might be that you
Speaker 4: can simply start with something like walking or running or
Speaker 4: going outside, then that's fantastic. If you have something which
Speaker 4: is maybe dealing with injury, or you have you know,
Speaker 4: you have some goals about maybe running a half marathon,
Speaker 4: or you know some people that want to step on
Speaker 4: stage and challenge themselves and do something, you know, a
Speaker 4: physique contest, then there's a need. There's a need for
Speaker 4: you to get professional help pretty quickly. But going back
Speaker 4: to when is it time to have a personal trainer,
Speaker 4: I think the number one thing is can you be
Speaker 4: self motivated? And if you can be self motivated, there
Speaker 4: is a lot of information out there now. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of relatively low cost programs that you can purchase
Speaker 4: or even download for free off the internet that will
Speaker 4: get you started. And then from there it really depends.
Speaker 4: I mean, you've just got to look at how you're going.
Speaker 4: You know, if things are tracking well, then there's no
Speaker 4: need to fork out big dollars to get someone for
Speaker 4: professional help. But if you feel like you're stagnating, or
Speaker 4: you're getting injured, or you don't know what to do,
Speaker 4: then that's when you've got to look at it.
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I think the thing is also
Speaker 3: knowing how hard you know what pain is good pain. Oh,
Speaker 3: I don't mean pain, but you know discomfort. And I
Speaker 3: would have thought usually when you once you've got yourself
Speaker 3: into the routine of exercising, that most people probably don't
Speaker 3: work hard enough. There'll be the odd extreme where somebody
Speaker 3: is absolutely cooking themselves. But I mean, people say, listen
Speaker 3: to your body. But every time I've worked with a
Speaker 3: personal trainer, if my memory saved me correctly, they were
Speaker 3: usually like, I think we're going to add another ten
Speaker 3: percent of that term. Oh, I think you'll add a
Speaker 3: bit more weight to that. And I'm like, it's hard already.
Speaker 3: And then they add a bit more and you're like okay,
Speaker 3: and still do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So progressive overload is the number one concept when
Speaker 4: it comes to exercise progression, performance and long term achievement.
Speaker 4: So if we think about our body loves to maintain
Speaker 4: equilibrium where we are right now, if we do nothing,
Speaker 4: we'll go backwards because our body is very efficient at
Speaker 4: getting rid of anything that we're not using, be that
Speaker 4: muscle tissue, be that aerobic fitness. On the same way,
Speaker 4: if we don't continue to challenge ourselves sensibly over time
Speaker 4: through progressive overload, we're going to find that we don't
Speaker 4: keep getting better. And there is a lot of cases
Speaker 4: where we have people that will go to a gym
Speaker 4: that you know, they're through no bad ill or not
Speaker 4: wanting anything other than the best for themselves, but they're
Speaker 4: going through the same process, the same motions, over and
Speaker 4: over again, not really getting anywhere. So we have to
Speaker 4: challenge our bodies over time, having saying that we shouldn't
Speaker 4: be having to walk into the gym every time and
Speaker 4: then you know, dragging or crawling out. Exactly. It needs
Speaker 4: to be enjoyable, but we need to find ways, you know,
Speaker 4: so that that might be a little bit more training,
Speaker 4: it might be a little bit harder training, or it
Speaker 4: might be just some smart ways to get you know,
Speaker 4: some more.
Speaker 3: Effective after well, we're going to go to a corner,
Speaker 3: but remind we've got to talk about dom's because that's
Speaker 3: the one where you think you've probably cooked yourself, but
Speaker 3: it's possibly unavoidable for that first workout or two. Let's
Speaker 3: go to Matt.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hey, Tim and Alex. I'm kind of similar age.
Speaker 5: You're going going through the getting fitter thing because you
Speaker 5: know you're worried about your health, but I just enjoyed
Speaker 5: the match foot shows, and I was very sad that
Speaker 5: when el Inger the Winger passed on after one of them.
Speaker 5: In hindsight, Alex, do you think he might have pushed
Speaker 5: himself a bit hard for his health?
Speaker 4: Yeah? May you rest in peace. It was very very
Speaker 4: tragic what happened. So just a background, Inger worked incredibly hard.
Speaker 4: He had lost about twenty kilograms before the show even started.
Speaker 4: He switched off his so he put his type two
Speaker 4: diabetes into remission. He's cardiovascular these cardiovascular health was a
Speaker 4: lot lot better. Did he push himself too hard? The
Speaker 4: health implications that he had potentially were very very long
Speaker 4: term and it was one of those it's very hard
Speaker 4: to know. Obviously, behind the scenes with all of these
Speaker 4: types of shows, he was closely monitored through his exercise.
Speaker 4: He had medical professionals with him the whole way, and
Speaker 4: probably you know, there's an element on television where things
Speaker 4: are sensationalized a little bit, but he was very much
Speaker 4: exercising within his own means. You know, he wasn't being
Speaker 4: pushed too hard. So did exercise contribute to him getting
Speaker 4: a lot healthier than he had been over the last
Speaker 4: sort of ten fifteen years. Absolutely, But yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: very very unfortunately.
Speaker 3: I guess the question around that is matter's just that
Speaker 3: it's about if you are middle aged and you'll get
Speaker 3: get into something that's not that common, you know, you've
Speaker 3: fallen out of the habit. It's just about how do
Speaker 3: you manage it so and we can talk about the
Speaker 3: extremes that risks that people take, but just how do
Speaker 3: you manage it so you don't hurt yourself?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and back to the whole assessment and making
Speaker 4: sure that the whole way through that you're very aware.
Speaker 4: So one of the things that's really important if you
Speaker 4: are middle aged and you're getting back into it is
Speaker 4: use hard rate monitors and also go and get a
Speaker 4: full doctor's check up before you start. So those two
Speaker 4: things will you keep you safe to start with, because
Speaker 4: obviously hopefully you've got a decent idea of where your
Speaker 4: health is. And then number two, keeping your heart rate
Speaker 4: within healthy zones. Just make sure that you're not overdoing it.
Speaker 4: And unfortunately there is an inherent risk with any type
Speaker 4: of exercise, but you know, it's very very minimal.
Speaker 3: More about managing risk. I mean, life's about managing risks.
Speaker 3: I mean you go out for a ride on your
Speaker 3: bike and there's a risk not just within your own body.
Speaker 4: M M. Yeah, it's a hard one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, thanks for call Matt. We take going to
Speaker 3: take quick moment. It's nineteen minutes to five News Talks.
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Speaker 3: news talks it b We're with Alex Flint talking about
Speaker 3: personal trainers and and we've been having a bit of
Speaker 3: a fun chat about just the worst of a piece
Speaker 3: of exercise equipment you you ever bought? Harold? Hello, how
Speaker 3: are you guys? Good?
Speaker 4: Thanks Harold?
Speaker 5: Okay, now I'm eating two and going on to the
Speaker 5: eighty three And and as you said, you have to
Speaker 5: see your workout routine as you get older. But one
Speaker 5: thing I wanted to ask is please sell this pre
Speaker 5: workout powder. And I've been taking some call and I'll explode.
Speaker 3: Is that worth my pre workout powder? What's it called?
Speaker 5: They're no explode, no explode.
Speaker 3: Alex?
Speaker 4: Yes, So is that tell us a little bit more
Speaker 4: about why why do you take that before before you
Speaker 4: work out?
Speaker 5: Well, it gives me a little bit more of a
Speaker 5: boot will I before I work out? Before I I
Speaker 5: don't eat anything before I work out, So I have
Speaker 5: a cup of coffee. Then I have that and I'll
Speaker 5: explode and it gives me a little bit better routine.
Speaker 5: But I don't know if it's harming me or not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's look at the reason that you're taking is
Speaker 4: the right reason. The jury is out a little bit
Speaker 4: on the long term safety and efficacy of using them.
Speaker 4: So they're largely a really big shot of caffeine and
Speaker 4: then a few other supplements in with them on the side.
Speaker 4: So one of the problems with them can really excuse
Speaker 4: me dramatically raise your blood pressure, So as someone in
Speaker 4: your eighties, you would want to just be aware of
Speaker 4: where your blood pressure is at. And then yeah, so
Speaker 4: there's I actually trained an endochronologist and he said that
Speaker 4: one of the things that he is very adverse to
Speaker 4: is pre workout powders for that reason that they're just
Speaker 4: they can be too much of a stimulant. But having
Speaker 4: said that, you know, a cup of coffee is a
Speaker 4: great way to get a little bit more energy, but
Speaker 4: you just have got to be careful about yea.
Speaker 3: What time do you work out, Harold?
Speaker 5: I like to work out after I have my get up,
Speaker 5: I have my corvee, I wear coak two hours and
Speaker 5: until after two hours, then I do a workout in
Speaker 5: the morning. Okay, and I like Friday, then two, Thursday,
Speaker 5: Saturday three.
Speaker 4: Fantastic, awesome.
Speaker 3: How long have you been taking this powder for? Are you?
Speaker 3: Were you about to take it?
Speaker 5: No, I've been taking it now for a couple of years.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you're probably out of the risk of giving
Speaker 3: yourself a caffeine shock. I don't know, but.
Speaker 4: There's there's In the last few years there has actually
Speaker 4: been a rise of non caffeinated pre workout drinks, which
Speaker 4: slightly if you have a look into those, if you
Speaker 4: just get online and have a look at and non
Speaker 4: caffeinated ones. Yeah, yeah, and they'll still give you a
Speaker 4: you know, a boosting energy and something, but potentially might
Speaker 4: just be that little bit safer.
Speaker 3: What it be better just to have a banana or something?
Speaker 4: Not really the hit doesn't hit you like a coffee does.
Speaker 3: No, I know, but you know it feel safer.
Speaker 4: A banana you know, yeah, definitely. Yeah, when how.
Speaker 3: Long before you work out should you have something to
Speaker 3: eat just get you through? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean if you're looking to build muscle or
Speaker 4: create an environment where you're going to have good performance,
Speaker 4: you want to be eating within an hour of exercise,
Speaker 4: just not huge amounts of food. But then having said that,
Speaker 4: some people love to fast before they exercise. Do that,
Speaker 4: you know, their exercise fast and not necessarily that great
Speaker 4: for fat loss, but they'll do it for one reason
Speaker 4: or another. But yeah, nutrition around training can really hype up, and.
Speaker 3: So it can actually make a difference because I've always
Speaker 3: thought it was just because the gym's there and you're
Speaker 3: in there and the exercise frame of mind you see
Speaker 3: no explode or whatever it is, or the latest protein
Speaker 3: powder where it's like, just have a decent breakfast, a
Speaker 3: decent lunch, and a decent dinner and.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, that's number one. Nutrition breakfast, lunch, dinner, that
Speaker 4: snacks is most important. One of the things that I
Speaker 4: have a discussion with a lot with people is are
Speaker 4: you leaning on this because you've got no energy? Like,
Speaker 4: is it something that's just don't have the energy that
Speaker 4: you should do? So Number one for that is sleep.
Speaker 4: How do you sleep? And if that's so, that's where
Speaker 4: we're looking at. So if you've got an energy problem,
Speaker 4: no one in the world has as a lack of
Speaker 4: pre workout floating around in their bloodstream. There's some other
Speaker 4: reason for it.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, let's actually tell you what We'll take a
Speaker 3: quick break. Can come back in just a moment. It's
Speaker 3: eleven minutes two five news talks.
Speaker 4: It be.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to news. It's talk, there'd be. This is
Speaker 3: the weekend collective of the Health Hub. My guest is
Speaker 3: Alex Flint from Body Talk. That's Body Talk with a
Speaker 3: T O r que. Look them up on the web
Speaker 3: and actually I just typed him body Talking bingo there.
Speaker 3: It was a few texts. Actually, Alex should be pleased
Speaker 3: to know this person had a bullworker where we were
Speaker 3: using it one night in the bedroom and the cable snapped.
Speaker 3: It shot through the fluorescent light, which exploded, sounded like
Speaker 3: a bomb went off. We got a hiding. I'm guessing
Speaker 3: this is from someone who was a teenager at the time.
Speaker 3: Worst things you could have been doing in your bedroom. Hi,
Speaker 3: first time Jim Garrett sixty personal trainer all the way,
Speaker 3: So I stayed safe, didn't hurt myself eight years later,
Speaker 3: so fit lost weight. Private gym one on one regards Barbara.
Speaker 3: So there we go, and worst bit of jim gear
Speaker 3: the Chuck Norris total gym put all sorts of stress
Speaker 3: in all the wrong places. Best kit of a bit
Speaker 3: of kit at home as a rower, closely followed by
Speaker 3: an assault bike. H well a bike yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so AsSalt bike is the one with the movable arms.
Speaker 4: They are fantastic. Yeah. I think it's you know, if
Speaker 4: you're going to have something at home, having a bit
Speaker 4: of gear which is bang for your buck, you know
Speaker 4: you don't need to spend a lot of time on it.
Speaker 4: It's going to be something that holds up long term,
Speaker 4: it's not going to fall apart, and it's actually nice
Speaker 4: to be on. So a lot of the cheap stuff
Speaker 4: it just doesn't feel like a good exercise experience. So
Speaker 4: on as salt bike, a normal bike, a treadmill, a rower,
Speaker 4: they're all things that you know, they stand the test
Speaker 4: of time and it's all effective exercise.
Speaker 3: Okay, quite a few questions here. We're going to see
Speaker 3: if we can squeeze a couple of answers out for ladies.
Speaker 3: Over fifty and going through menopause gained a few kilos.
Speaker 3: What would you recommend And they've given a choice here, pilates,
Speaker 3: yoga or a boot camp.
Speaker 4: It's a difficult one. Exercise is not the way that
Speaker 4: you're going to lose weight. Protein in take strength training
Speaker 4: their number one and two when it comes to getting
Speaker 4: through menopause. The things that you need to really focus
Speaker 4: on is bone density, keeping your muscle, and doing that
Speaker 4: on the other side, you're going to be a lot
Speaker 4: healthier and probably in a position where you're going to
Speaker 4: be able to lose weight and just be in better shape.
Speaker 4: So whether it's a boot camp, whether it's pilates, it's
Speaker 4: more so the overall putting those other things.
Speaker 3: Does menopause actually affect the way your body absorbs and
Speaker 3: nutrients and food and everything?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Yep. So there's big changes in musculo skeletal health through menopause,
Speaker 4: and there's also changes in the way that we can
Speaker 4: Actually it's called anabolic resistance, so women start to struggle
Speaker 4: to uptake the protein that they're eating, so that needs
Speaker 4: to go up. Yeah, So the type of exercise should
Speaker 4: be the one that you enjoy the most, because if
Speaker 4: you enjoy it, there's more chance that you're going to
Speaker 4: stick with it. But you've really got to look at
Speaker 4: it like, what are the things which are most important
Speaker 4: rather than which exercise should I choose? So it's protein intake,
Speaker 4: some form of resistance training which you can get from
Speaker 4: any one of those three.
Speaker 3: Actually, okay, we've got about a minute left. No pain,
Speaker 3: no gain true or false.
Speaker 4: In the middle, we definitely need to go through some discomfort,
Speaker 4: I would say, but pain absolutely not joint pain. Pain
Speaker 4: which makes you feel like you are over exerting yourself
Speaker 4: or you're doing too much, is very demotivating, and it's
Speaker 4: also a big risk of injury. So we should be
Speaker 4: over time challenging ourselves with being a little bit outside
Speaker 4: of our comfort zones, but safely.
Speaker 3: Difficult to have a decent T shirt though, no pain,
Speaker 3: no gain is a good one, But no discomfort.
Speaker 4: No, no discomfort some of the time.
Speaker 3: Maybe you should make it up using the font using
Speaker 3: one of those exercise sort of aggressive fonts, so it
Speaker 3: looks cool. It just has a slightly more subtle and
Speaker 3: sophisticated message.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't know if anyone can get what
Speaker 4: progressive overload meant. That's really what I.
Speaker 3: But no progressive overload. I think just just cram up
Speaker 3: the fonts and get and have the body talk over
Speaker 3: at the bottom.
Speaker 4: Job done. See how it goes? Ok?
Speaker 3: Mate, Hey Alex, thanks so much for your time. Mate,
Speaker 3: great Devin the studio, Thanks very much for having me on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas too. You know we can say that now
Speaker 3: it's first of December. You know we're looking into and
Speaker 3: I can say it because next time I'll see you'll
Speaker 3: be in the New year.
Speaker 4: Probably absolutely, And remember everyone, it's not what you do
Speaker 4: between Christmas and New Year's accounts, it's what you do
Speaker 4: between New Years and the next Christmas.
Speaker 3: We could have just talked about that right through the show,
Speaker 3: but maybe we'll do that next year years resolutions x way. Anyway,
Speaker 3: body talk, go and look them up on the web
Speaker 3: and we'll be back shortly with Smart Money and Madame
Speaker 3: Morales in the studio.
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