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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 2: News Talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be good morning, it is six after five, you're

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Speaker 3: on news talks. He'd be on Ryan Bridge and we

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Speaker 3: have Mark Mitchell, the Police Minister, first up at thirteen

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Speaker 3: after five this morning, talking about that police pay deal,

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Speaker 3: which is well, not great for if you're a police

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Speaker 3: it see some of them many of them shift overseas,

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Speaker 3: head to Australia where the pay is much better. We'll

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Speaker 3: look at that. Also, bad day to be Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Things just go from bad to worse for him, don't they.

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Speaker 3: Not only are they having to pull all of their

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Speaker 3: assassination attempt, but now this federal judge has dismissed the

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Speaker 3: classified documents case. And remember their big argument with Trump

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Speaker 3: is he's a threat to democracy, he's above the law,

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff, and this case has now been

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Speaker 3: thrown out. So we'll have more on that in a

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Speaker 3: second two right now, seven after five the agenda and

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Speaker 3: it's Tuesday, the sixteenth of July. Eight people have been

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Speaker 3: placed on leave at Immigration New Zealand following serious allegations

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Speaker 3: of chats on team chats. Immigration New Zealand Deputy Secretary

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Speaker 3: Allison McDonald says the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment

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Speaker 3: will investigate the comments which appear to breach MB's code

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Speaker 3: The Public Health Communications Center is raising concerns that people

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Speaker 3: who don't need antibiotics are being prescribed them anyway. It

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Speaker 3: treat infections. Mark Thomas from the University of Auckland says

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Speaker 3: any antibiotic use will contribute to resistance.

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Speaker 4: The large parts of the antiboticus New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: It is for people who have viral infections where everybody

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Speaker 3: makes no difference to the outcome. The problem is when

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Speaker 3: you're sick, you just want it to be gone. Don't

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Speaker 3: you you take anything they give you. New data release

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Speaker 3: to news Talk ZIRB shows three neighboring police districts have

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Speaker 3: all reported the highest number of assaults on officers in

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Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty assaults reported in both counties Monaco

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Speaker 3: of Plenty. Chris Carhill from the Police Association said he's

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Speaker 3: not surprised.

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Speaker 5: The key message over i'm A members is people are

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Speaker 2: To assault police officers are more willing to confront them

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Speaker 3: And as I mentioned earlier, Trump's motion to dismiss his

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Speaker 3: classified documents cases being granted, with a Florida judge saying

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Speaker 3: the appointment of a special prosecutor by the Attorney General

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Speaker 3: was unlawful. Dozens of documents were found in his Mari

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Speaker 3: Lago property after Trump's presidency in twenty twenty one. He

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Speaker 3: previously pled not guilty to multiple charges in the case.

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Speaker 3: It is nine after five, Ryan Bridge. So yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: going to pick apparently in the next couple of hours,

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Speaker 3: announce his pick for VP. His running mate j D

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Speaker 3: Varannce We spoke about him yesterday. The senator from Ohio

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Speaker 3: Then there's Doug Bergham. He's the North Dakota governor. He

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Speaker 3: Marco Rubio, who most of you will know. He's the

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Speaker 3: Florida Senator and he once called Trump a dangerous con

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Speaker 3: some of the good debates of our years gone past.

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Speaker 3: Very quickly, Darling, because we've got to get to Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: who's the Police Minister, shortly. But Darling Tanner has spoken

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Speaker 3: to TVNZ and she was asked what or what didn't

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Speaker 6: I know what I did and what I did not do.

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Speaker 6: I didn't exploit migrants?

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Speaker 3: I wonder to decide whether she'll actually leave Parliament.

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Speaker 6: The easiest thing may well be to step away.

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Speaker 7: But either way that's a decision that requires quite some consideration.

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Speaker 3: Quite some consideration. You've had one hundred and fifteen days suspended,

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Speaker 3: Just get out of here. Already eleven after five, Mark Mitchell.

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Speaker 8: Next, News and Views you Trust to start your day.

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Speaker 8: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New

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Speaker 8: Zealand's furniture beds at a flying store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be we're.

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Speaker 3: Live to Australia just before six this morning. There's been

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Speaker 3: to our correspondent out of Sydney about that. Just before

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Speaker 3: six o'clock. Right now, it's thirteen after five and the

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Speaker 3: government has won its long running pay dispute with the

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Speaker 3: Both sides had to enter arbitration last year after negotiations stalled.

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Speaker 3: The arbitrators have settled for the government. The offer is

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Speaker 3: the police Minister and who joins me now, Minister, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Ryan, how are you good?

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Have you seen any projections on how many

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't, but you know, of course, you know, look,

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Speaker 4: I completely understand and feel where they're coming from. But

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Speaker 4: and for me that was really significant. I know that

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Speaker 3: more officers less. Was that was that a serious consideration?

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Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't in the detail that. Obviously the final

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Speaker 3: Not going to talk to would you have would you

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Speaker 4: And I totally understand it. I'm sensitive to how they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, I agree with you. They

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Speaker 4: No, but it wasn't the last offer. This new offer

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Speaker 3: It's Mark Mitchell, the Minister of Police, with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time, just gone eighteen

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Speaker 3: problems here is, you know, he's right that the pay

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Speaker 3: increase will go above what inflation is projected to be.

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Speaker 3: But for the last few years, well for the last

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Speaker 3: Great to have you listening to news talks, said be

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Speaker 3: Good Morning what do these case managers actually make a difference,

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Speaker 9: At this point, Well, they meet and I would hope

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Speaker 3: So do we want fewer higher paid cops or more

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Speaker 10: Then Maha, don't breckon love me too, Maum.

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Speaker 3: You're on news Talk, they'd be on, Ryan Bridge. Great

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Speaker 3: On the police pay deal, Ryan, a great increase for

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Speaker 3: It's better than the last bunch of idiots in what

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Speaker 3: from a different perspective. I live with a veteran police officer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at least it's keeping up with inflation. Twenty

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Speaker 3: Good morning. The Waitaki District Council is changing its public

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Speaker 11: Yeah, morning Ryan, it's following in Dnedan's footsteps here accepting

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Speaker 3: So at the moment you can't walk a dog, even

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Speaker 3: And how will the weather be for Indonedan for a

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Speaker 3: Were today Emily rain.

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Speaker 12: Easing to showers this morning, then clearing to find spouse

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much to Wellington. We go now the

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Speaker 10: The city Council has been going around the CBD tachingweight

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Speaker 3: Goodness mate, And if you complain what you just get

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Speaker 10: fourteen the high Central.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Max, right, it is nineteen away from Sex and

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Speaker 3: we've got never ready mineer here in our Auckland studio.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Auckland Transport. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, you're gonna be outraged this Ryan. Now it's

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Speaker 6: being revealed that Auckland Transport's top boss, Now he was

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Speaker 6: heading an engineering consultancy firm given eighty contract while he

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Speaker 6: was in the job. Dean Kimpton, who who became eighty

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Speaker 6: chief executive. Now this was April twenty twenty three, was

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Speaker 6: the director of the engineering firm Blue Barn Consulting until

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Speaker 6: late last months. Now an eighty spokesman says, between Kimpton

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Speaker 6: starting the job in January this year, Blue Barn was

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Speaker 6: awarded twenty contracts. Now these contracts were worth more than

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Speaker 6: eight hundred thousand dollars. So what we do know the

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Speaker 6: board was fully aware of this and appropriate protocols they're

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Speaker 6: being now put in place. Wayne Brown walk and Mea says.

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Speaker 6: The situation obviously not a good luck.

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Speaker 3: So no, it doesn't. It doesn't sound good baity, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't even if they've got protocols in place. And how

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Speaker 3: did we find out about this? Well, from page to

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Speaker 3: the Hero.

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Speaker 6: To the Herald, that's right, and you can get more

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Speaker 6: on that by checking out their website. Now I've got

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Speaker 6: to say Ryan, just quickly the desk. Did they not

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Speaker 6: tell you that you had to clean when your first

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Speaker 6: walked in? Or Mike Costco, we'll have to have words.

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's usually his job, is it?

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Speaker 9: Never?

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Speaker 3: It's actually only dirty on your side.

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Speaker 6: Right, so you boys, it's kind of your area and

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Speaker 6: not mine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll remember up over here.

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Speaker 7: Yeh.

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Speaker 3: Never any money with us in with it?

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Speaker 6: Oh sorry, yes, yes, areas of blow cloud or folk.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, isolated Charllesa might not be friends after

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Speaker 6: this seventeenth.

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Speaker 3: All right, it is seventeen away from sex. We're live

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Speaker 3: for Australia.

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Speaker 8: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 8: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: We live to Australia with our Australia correspondent, Donna Jamayo. Donna,

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Speaker 3: great to have you on the show. Voters swinging to Dutton.

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Speaker 3: This is a new sign of ants and it's all

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Speaker 3: to do with the economy.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the cost of living pressures are really taking their

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Speaker 7: toll on Australian said, we've got a resolve. Poll findings

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Speaker 7: have been released today and we're hearing that voters have

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Speaker 7: pretty much lifted the Coalition to another high. According to

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Speaker 7: this poll, support for Opposition leader Peter Dutton.

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Speaker 2: On the increase.

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Speaker 7: These new findings show fifty five percent of Australians expect

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Speaker 7: the national outlook to worsen. Primary vote Cobalition lifted thirty

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Speaker 7: six to thirty eight percent now and Labor is excuse me,

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Speaker 7: still sitting on twenty eight percent and that is the

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Speaker 7: lowest level since Anthony Albanesi it took power at the

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Speaker 7: last election in twenty twenty two. And if you look

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Speaker 7: at the pole findings, will preferred PM Peter Dutton thirty

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Speaker 7: five and Albanzi sitting on thirty four.

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Speaker 3: Which is a huge turnaround from even just a year ago,

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Speaker 3: right where it was twenty five forty six. So significant,

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Speaker 3: very very significant. Donald, Let's talk about this union and

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Speaker 3: the allegations of corruption. What's happening here.

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Speaker 7: So it's one of Australia's most powerful unions. It's the

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Speaker 7: Building Union of the Construction Union, and it could face

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Speaker 7: de registration. Allegations have been aired of alleged criminal links

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Speaker 7: within the cfmea used Victorian branch, and the fallout has

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Speaker 7: been swiss since his allegations aired on the weekend we've

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Speaker 7: heard from Industrial Relations Minister Tony Burke. Now he's asked

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Speaker 7: his department to advise him on ministerial powers. Now he's

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Speaker 7: responding to allegations such as bike were acting as union delegates,

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Speaker 7: other claims that there were links between organized crime and

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Speaker 7: construction projects. Now he says he finds the allegations abhorrent.

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Speaker 7: The Victorian Premier sint Alan says she has deep discussed

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Speaker 7: in regard to the alleged behavior and is grappling with

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Speaker 7: the thuggish and rotten behavior that we are hearing about

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Speaker 7: and there's no place for it in Victoria. And we've

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Speaker 7: also heard from the national union body, the ACTU. Sally

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Speaker 7: mcmanor says that investigation will be set up and Albanezi,

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Speaker 7: our PM, says more action is needed because we actually

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Speaker 7: had the Victorian branch of the CFMAU placed into administration

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Speaker 7: yesterday last Friday. The boss of the VICCFMU, John Secka,

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Speaker 7: he resigned and naturally he's denying any wrongdoing.

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Speaker 3: Naturally. Donod Demayer in Australia our Australia correspondent at twelve away.

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Speaker 2: From Sex Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: The Republican National Convention starts today in will Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: And this comes just a couple of days after the

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Speaker 3: former President Trump was shot at in an assassination attempt.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things happening that you need to be

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Speaker 3: aware of today. He is tipped to pick his vice president,

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Speaker 3: well not his vice president, but his running mate to

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Speaker 3: be vice president. So he's tipped to pick his and

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Speaker 3: announce his vice president. Also, this classified documents case that

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Speaker 3: has been plaguing the former president has just been dismissed

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Speaker 3: by a Florida judge joining us. Ira Spitzer, the FSN correspondent, Ira,

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Speaker 3: Great to have you on the program. Let's start with

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Speaker 3: the VP pick. When do we think this is going

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Speaker 3: to happen? What do we know?

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Speaker 5: Well, here in Milwaukee, there's definitely a real palpable sense

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Speaker 5: of excitement today with that news revealed by Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: himself earlier in the day that he will name a

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Speaker 5: running mate for his upcoming campaign. We don't know exactly

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Speaker 5: when that's going to happen. The convention will proceed into

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Speaker 5: the sort of later hours of the evening, so at

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Speaker 5: some point we will expect to hear who that person is.

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Speaker 5: He's apparently narrowed it down to four finalists, so presumably

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Speaker 5: it will be one of those four people. Jd Vance,

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Speaker 5: the Senator from Ohio with so many a lot of

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Speaker 5: people are talking about that he could be a likely pick.

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Speaker 5: He's one of those four finalists as well as Senator

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Speaker 5: Marco Rivio from Florida, Senator Tim Scott from North Carolina,

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Speaker 5: and Governor Doug Burgham from North Dakota. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: going to be a huge, huge news of course when

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Speaker 5: that happens. And there's just been huge news of course

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Speaker 5: for the last few days with the attempted assassination of

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Speaker 5: course just a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Days ago, and now we've got this classified documents case

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Speaker 3: being dismissed by a far to judge.

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Speaker 2: Does that have a big.

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Speaker 3: Impact on the election campaign, particularly for Biden, who's been

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Speaker 3: one thing to run this line that Trump is above

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Speaker 3: the law and he's a threat to democracy. Does this

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Speaker 3: have a big impact.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely good news for Donald Trump both legally,

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Speaker 5: although there was this this case was almost certainly not

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Speaker 5: going to go to trial before the election. But I

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Speaker 5: think you kind of hit on something there which is

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Speaker 5: from a perception standpoint, the fact that this judge in Florida,

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Speaker 5: Eileen Cannon, who was appointed by by by Trump. The

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Speaker 5: fact that she sort of threw out the case saying

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Speaker 5: that the you know, the appointment of the special prosecutor

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Speaker 5: who was investigating this by the Justice Department, thing that

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Speaker 5: was unconstitutional. So from the perception of uh, you know Trump,

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Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, it was you know, the

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Speaker 5: convicted Sellon was was the tagline that a lot of

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Speaker 5: Democrats were using for Trump. But now I think having

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Speaker 5: this case at least thrown out shift that narrative in

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Speaker 5: a way that is favorable for Trump. So it's been

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Speaker 5: a you could say, a good few days for Trump,

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Speaker 5: although the fact that he was almost killed makes it

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Speaker 5: hard to truly say that. But in terms of just

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Speaker 5: just a momentum here for Donald Trump, surviving that attack,

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Speaker 5: having that that historic photo op that that came after

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Speaker 5: the bullet narrowly missed him or didn't even miss him,

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Speaker 5: it hit his ear apparently, but surviving that attack, and

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Speaker 5: then now having some legal problems resolved at least for now.

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Speaker 5: There will be an appeal, but resolved for now, it

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Speaker 5: is certainly a good news for the former president.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Iras Spitzer, who's if it's ins correspondent

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Speaker 3: at the Republican National Convention in Wisconsin. Just before you

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Speaker 3: go a security wise, is it a safe place for Trump?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's there's it's certainly a tremendous level of security

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Speaker 5: here as you would as would always have been the

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Speaker 5: case with the republic National Convention. One significant difference between

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Speaker 5: the proceedings here and that rally in Western Pennsylvania where

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Speaker 5: where he was almost assassinated. As to even enter these

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Speaker 5: grounds you have to be vetted. So anyone with some

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Speaker 5: sort of plot would have had to have been planning

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Speaker 5: this for a while. It's not something that somebody would

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Speaker 5: easily be able to just come to with the intention

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Speaker 5: of carrying out some sort of harm or attack. So

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Speaker 5: hopefully it is a safe place to be Ara.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for you, Tom Iras Spitzer, if this End's correspondent

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Speaker 3: at the Republican National Convention and Wisconsin this morning. It

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Speaker 3: is eight away from six. Mic costing next.

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Speaker 8: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 8: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture

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Speaker 8: bids and applying store news Talk Cippy.

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Speaker 3: Five to six. Mike Hosking in the studio, the mic

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Speaker 3: hosting breakfast starts in a little over five minute. It's time, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I heard you talking about Donald Trump's shoes yesterday. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you know, when he was shot.

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Speaker 13: The question you wanted answered, wasn't it? Wasn't that the

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Speaker 13: question you wanted answered? And nobody asked the questions.

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Speaker 9: Think about it.

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Speaker 13: Guy goes down, he's been shot. And then as they

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Speaker 13: get up and the security services are all over and

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Speaker 13: going are you ready to move on?

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Speaker 4: Three?

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Speaker 13: Let's go, go go, he goes, wait, let me get

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Speaker 13: my shoes.

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Speaker 3: And he says it three times exactly, so he's actually

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Speaker 3: come out and said what happened? He said, the agent's

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Speaker 3: hit me so hard. That's the secret Service. Agent's hit

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Speaker 3: me so hard that my shoes fell off. And my

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Speaker 3: shoes are tight. How did your shoes fall off?

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Speaker 13: Far be it from me to go down the conspiracy theory,

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Speaker 13: because there are so many conspiracies out there at the moment.

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Speaker 13: But first of all, they didn't hit him. He ducked,

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Speaker 13: and then they got on top of them. So he

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Speaker 13: lost his shoes going down as he ducked, which means

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Speaker 13: he's wearing unbelievably loose shoes, isn't he.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, think about it. He says, my shoes are tight.

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Speaker 3: I think he takes them off to speak.

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Speaker 5: Do you think he does?

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Speaker 3: I think that's what happened.

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Speaker 9: Why would he do that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Maybe it's more comfortable. Is that

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Speaker 3: what it is?

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Speaker 13: Because he wears lace ups. The important thing that the

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Speaker 13: lace ups they're not velcrode.

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Speaker 3: No, true, not like by it unless.

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Speaker 13: They lace isn't there's a vel crow underneath?

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Speaker 3: What's what's on the big show?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we'll talk about the police. And I think this

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Speaker 13: a bit is an elegant solution this whole thing. Why

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Speaker 13: they Why would you talk for a year so it

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Speaker 13: becomes obvious after a year you're not going to get on.

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Speaker 13: You don't agree, so go off to an arbitrator and

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Speaker 13: of course you know the police don't like him. I

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Speaker 13: understand all of that. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 13: that's the that's the way to say the listings, doesn't

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Speaker 13: it going from somebody and go there your case case

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Speaker 13: case B. I decide here's your answer. That isn't that?

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Speaker 13: So anyway, we'll talk to the police association about that.

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Speaker 3: Because obviously happy Mike hosking with you coming up next.

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Speaker 3: I'm Ryan Bridge. Great to be with you this morning,

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Speaker 3: I will see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: For more from news Talks, it'd be listen on air

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