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Speaker 2: Hello there, and welcome into today's episode of the Sports
Speaker 2: Fixed podcast. It's great to be here, Thursday, February twenty.
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 3: Oh look who's back on, Darcy Walter Grave. It's okay.
Speaker 3: I keep the seat warm when you're out of there, mate,
Speaker 3: but I'm glad to have you back in the chaos again.
Speaker 2: It's good to be in the chaos, and it's good
Speaker 2: to be here on a day where we can celebrate
Speaker 2: a black Caps win in the opening match of the
Speaker 2: Champions Trophy and also kick around a couple of pretty
Speaker 2: meaty issues. You've got one. David Moffett lined up to
Speaker 2: chat to us today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. David Moffat dar CEO of how many
Speaker 3: different sports teams and organizations I don't know, but currently
Speaker 3: he's the South Island Kia bid for the NRL. He's
Speaker 3: their CEO, and we'll talk to him about well, what
Speaker 3: the worries are up to and whether there is actually
Speaker 3: room for an other team and are they actively blocking
Speaker 3: what's happening in the NRL. They seem to want to
Speaker 3: look after their patch and not a lot will come
Speaker 3: into it. So that interesting conversation with Dave Moffatt coming up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to that. I've some good questions to
Speaker 2: ask him, some good answers from David Moffatt, no doubt.
Speaker 2: So without any further ado, let's get into it. In
Speaker 2: other news, let's get things underway with a look at
Speaker 2: the big sports stories around today. The black Caps have
Speaker 2: beaten Pakistan and the opening Champions Trophy one Day Cricket
Speaker 2: International in Karachi.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: It's all over.
Speaker 1: New Zealand win this match convincingly by sixty runs.
Speaker 3: It's been a polished performance.
Speaker 2: The New Zilla may three hundred and twenty for five,
Speaker 2: Will Young and Tom Latham scoring centuries Pakistan and reply
Speaker 2: all out for two hundred and sixty. Warrior's coach Andrew
Speaker 2: Webster welcoming attempts to get American President Donald Trump to
Speaker 2: attend the NRL's season opening double header in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: It's awesome to put our game on the map, you know,
Speaker 3: particularly the State States is the biggest sporting location in
Speaker 3: the world. Having those guys around can help promote it.
Speaker 3: I mean Donald Trump did one of his amazing tweets
Speaker 3: about there, and that'll be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: In Manchester City have missed out on the Champions League
Speaker 2: Round of sixteen for the first time in twelve seasons.
Speaker 3: Row Madred imperious that there was no great challenge for
Speaker 3: the Champions on.
Speaker 1: The night for Pep Cardiol as Manchester City.
Speaker 3: There's an end of empire feel about it.
Speaker 1: Leading of Vix, We've got just the ticket. It's Sports
Speaker 1: Fix how By News talks.
Speaker 3: Ivy and it's a warm welcome to the Sports Vex podcast.
Speaker 3: To David Moffatt. He is the South Island k CEO.
Speaker 3: That's a bid to go into the n R. Ali
Speaker 3: joins us now to talk about that and the Warriors.
Speaker 3: Good day to you, David. I'm doing very well. Interesting
Speaker 3: story today in the Herald. Trevan McKeown, former cel A
Speaker 3: is again of the Warriors, writing this down about the Warriors,
Speaker 3: about are the Key and other expansion teams coming through.
Speaker 3: Suggestion here is that the Warriors are probably more interested
Speaker 3: in looking after their patch than they are for the
Speaker 3: good of rugby league in this country. Is that a
Speaker 3: fierce statement? Do you think David.
Speaker 4: I think it absolutely is. You know that, what have
Speaker 4: they done in the last twenty five, twenty seven years,
Speaker 4: whatever it is, they've by any measure, I mean, I
Speaker 4: think they managed to get to a Grand Final once.
Speaker 4: But outside of that, you know, and it's still happening.
Speaker 4: They just don't perform on the field. For them to
Speaker 4: suggest that there shouldn't be another team in New Zealand
Speaker 4: shows that they don't have any knowledge about the game
Speaker 4: in this country and they actually don't have much knowledge
Speaker 4: of our sport because all they need to do is
Speaker 4: look next door at what's happening with the with the AFC,
Speaker 4: the Auckland Football Club and the amount of interest there
Speaker 4: is because of this rivalry they have built in with
Speaker 4: with Wellington Phoenix and it would be even more than
Speaker 4: that with rugby league. You know what, do we enjoy
Speaker 4: our rivalries here in New Zealand and there's no bigger
Speaker 4: rivalry between Auckland and christ Church.
Speaker 3: It's not with the Warriors though it looks like actively
Speaker 3: blocking or being heard to be blocking this. Do you
Speaker 3: understand from their point of view that they are looking
Speaker 3: after their patch and they see that as being something
Speaker 3: that is rightly theirs if you're a CE, are you
Speaker 3: be doing the same thing, wouldn't you, David, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think so, mate, because I can understand that if
Speaker 4: you've got another team, it'll actually make you perform better.
Speaker 4: But then again, I think, I think this guy who's
Speaker 4: running the Warriors comes out of a racing background, which
Speaker 4: actually is a monopoly. Racing is a monopoly, both in
Speaker 4: Australia and in this country, and he's now trying to
Speaker 4: actually maintain a monopoly that I said, he's done nothing.
Speaker 4: They've done nothing thing with for twenty five years. They
Speaker 4: started coming down here and playing an odd game down here,
Speaker 4: but that's all. You know. My view is that, you know,
Speaker 4: we would most likely show them up if we got
Speaker 4: a license, and you know, I have no doubt that
Speaker 4: we would certainly get them to improve their own organization
Speaker 4: because let's face it, it's hardly fit for purpose. We
Speaker 4: actually want, fervently want the Warriors to be successful because
Speaker 4: whilst ever they're unsuccessful, the NRL says, oh, well, look
Speaker 4: New Zealand, you know hasn't got enough talent, even though
Speaker 4: fifty percent of the players playing in the NRL come
Speaker 4: from this part of the world and the Islands I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, so we want them to be successful, but
Speaker 4: they're not.
Speaker 3: There's a number of consortiums looking to climb into this
Speaker 3: and have this second franchise, but there's been nothing from
Speaker 3: the Arl. Has there come a time when something like
Speaker 3: the lights of the care and so and so forth go.
Speaker 3: We've gone as far as we can. We're besting a
Speaker 3: heating against a brick wall. They don't want us know more,
Speaker 3: because you've been very insistent, but there's nothing come back
Speaker 3: that almost suggests like you're wasting it time.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we could be, but we're not a group
Speaker 4: of people that are going to give in. You know,
Speaker 4: we are doing this for one reason only and that
Speaker 4: is for christ Church. You know, we are a city
Speaker 4: that has come through some horrific times, you know, with
Speaker 4: the earthquakes, and the city is being rebuilt and it's
Speaker 4: it's going to be a great city and the council
Speaker 4: are doing a phenomenal job and so therefore we're doing
Speaker 4: this for christ Church, the city and also Rugby League
Speaker 4: fans in the South Island. I mean, we've got we've
Speaker 4: got access to two covered stadiums in the South Island
Speaker 4: because we'd take a game or two down to Dunedin
Speaker 4: and what sort of stadiums are they playing up there
Speaker 4: in Auckland will be it'll be twenty years before they
Speaker 4: get a decent stadium up there the way they're going,
Speaker 4: and you know, we're already, we're ready to go, We're
Speaker 4: fit and ready to go does and yeah, we're not
Speaker 4: going to give it. What I've said is, look, we
Speaker 4: understand where you're at, but if you want to reopen
Speaker 4: negotiations and discussions, then we're here, we're real and we're
Speaker 4: ready to go at a moment's notice.
Speaker 3: I think they should be able to have to reapply
Speaker 3: for their license. So it's actually a battleground you can
Speaker 3: both engage in because to the man of Born, they
Speaker 3: do have this license and it looks like they're not
Speaker 3: going to let it go. Is there a thought process
Speaker 3: here that maybe they shouldn't hang on to it forever?
Speaker 4: Well, I actually suggested the other day in the media
Speaker 4: that perhaps it's about time they were asked to reapply
Speaker 4: for their license and to see how they do under
Speaker 4: those conditions, and then put conditions upon keeping a license,
Speaker 4: you know, I asked myself, I thought was an interesting question.
Speaker 4: Is there any sunset clause? On any licenses for any
Speaker 4: of the clubs or are they there in perpetuity or
Speaker 4: until one of them might go broke or whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I think that's a very valid question. But anybody,
Speaker 4: I think who is taking the view that the Warriors
Speaker 4: owners and management are taking at the moment that they
Speaker 4: don't want any other team in New Zealand. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't give us stuff about or They can look
Speaker 4: after Auckland, they can look after the whole of the
Speaker 4: North Island. But we are a very proud rugby league
Speaker 4: community down here and it's growing.
Speaker 3: Sorry, the growth of the game obviously is important from
Speaker 3: a New Zealand perspective as well as opposed to just
Speaker 3: the growth of one club. Do you propose to help
Speaker 3: with the growth of the game as opposed to maybe
Speaker 3: just looking after your own interests.
Speaker 4: Well absolutely, We've already made contact with numerous of the
Speaker 4: islands and you know, if we were to get a
Speaker 4: get a license, we would immediately get involved with the
Speaker 4: other islands, Stonga, the Cook Islands, you know, to get
Speaker 4: that stuff going. We want to become like Penrith, We
Speaker 4: want to become a net exporter of talent into the NRL.
Speaker 4: And that's something that we've been very clear on. But
Speaker 4: I think you know, it's all about people looking after
Speaker 4: their own interests. And let me make this point as well.
Speaker 4: Rugby in New Zealand is a little bit on its
Speaker 4: knees at the moment. And if ever rugby League the
Speaker 4: NRL wanted to take on rugby in this country, they
Speaker 4: shouldn't be waiting another five years because rugby will get
Speaker 4: it back together eventually. We're starting to see a little
Speaker 4: bit of a change in the way the game is played,
Speaker 4: certainly in the Northern hemisphere, and I don't think that
Speaker 4: bodes well for us. But they are starting to move
Speaker 4: the ball about a bit more than we've been seeing
Speaker 4: in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: Have you had any contact with the Warriors? Does it
Speaker 3: even come into the equation at all? Does it matter?
Speaker 4: I know it doesn't matter. I'd actually don't want to
Speaker 4: talk to them. I just want to be, you know,
Speaker 4: a bur under their saddle cloths. I want to develop
Speaker 4: up a real strong rivalry from day one, because that's
Speaker 4: what I mean. And the NRL should be bending over
Speaker 4: backwards to develop this rivalry between Auckland and christ Church.
Speaker 4: Where where is the natural rivalry between P and G
Speaker 4: and anybody or the Western you know, they'll say, oh,
Speaker 4: the Bears, but you know they haven't got anywhere near
Speaker 4: the following that they claim. But then the biggest natural rivalry,
Speaker 4: it's almost and its sort of state of origin like
Speaker 4: would be between the North Island and the South Island.
Speaker 4: And it's a bit frustrating when you can't seem to
Speaker 4: get that message through.
Speaker 3: David Moffatt, Thanks very much for joining the program. I
Speaker 3: get the feeling this story isn't going to end for
Speaker 3: some time. But overarching, we just want to seek a
Speaker 3: team in the NRL. That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 4: Thanks mate.
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Speaker 3: Last night, the black Heads hit the ground running with
Speaker 3: the flame at their feet by beating Pakistan in the
Speaker 3: first a game of the Champions Trophy. So much to
Speaker 3: like about that performance, and as I touched on last
Speaker 3: night on Sports Talk, primarily it wasn't how well the
Speaker 3: black Caps went, it was how poorly the Pakistanis dealt
Speaker 3: with the pressure. What pressure well, playing a major tournament
Speaker 3: at home for the first time in decades, they couldn't
Speaker 3: deal with the pressure applied to them by the crowd,
Speaker 3: by the black Caps, and more importantly by themselves. Watching
Speaker 3: them unravel in the last ten overs, watching them pointing,
Speaker 3: watching them grimacing, watching them blame storming, while a very
Speaker 3: amused to Tom Latham and Glenn Phillips watched on was
Speaker 3: really quite something else. It was then you knew that
Speaker 3: the Pakistani simply didn't have enough to chase down that
Speaker 3: massive score. We also saw the return to form of
Speaker 3: Tom Latham. He touched on it with a sketchy fifty
Speaker 3: last time around against Pakistan, but when it really counts,
Speaker 3: he counted a beautiful century, a well paced sentry, peppered
Speaker 3: with the majestic stroke play, especially in the sweeping region
Speaker 3: that we know he possesses well Young he's the Matt
Speaker 3: Henry of the batting attack. He's always there to fill
Speaker 3: a gap when required, and when he gets his role
Speaker 3: full time, not unlike Matt Henry, he will provide. I'm
Speaker 3: absolutely certain of that what happens next time he plays.
Speaker 3: If he plays, it's a case of Devon Conway versus
Speaker 3: Will Young. So I'm very interested in what the decision
Speaker 3: is there and what they base that on. And then
Speaker 3: of course you look at the bowling. We didn't see
Speaker 3: much of Nathan Smith, but Kyle Jamison is over there
Speaker 3: and i'd expect had come in as a replacement. This
Speaker 3: is a great way to start this tournament. It is confident,
Speaker 3: it is assured and from times it was absolutely brutal.
Speaker 3: Get up, watch it and stay awake as long as
Speaker 3: you can. It's worth it.
Speaker 1: The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2: Into the Chamber we go to kick around the main
Speaker 2: sporting issues of today, one of which is what you've
Speaker 2: just been speaking to David Moffat about what we you
Speaker 2: main takeaways from your conversation with him.
Speaker 3: It sounds terrible, but I really get the feeling that
Speaker 3: the narl just aren't interested. Regardless that they pay lip service,
Speaker 3: but they don't seem to want to connect or contact
Speaker 3: or talk. They're more interested in Western Australia or Papua
Speaker 3: New Guinea and Chinese money. I think they're bashing their
Speaker 3: head against the brick wall. But as David said, well,
Speaker 3: we're pretty bloody minded. We're going to get we want.
Speaker 3: We're not going to give up. And as far as
Speaker 3: the Warriors are consented, you understand that, don't you. Piney
Speaker 3: around looking after your own patch, why would you give
Speaker 3: it to somebody else? Or, as Moffatt pointed out, having
Speaker 3: a competition like with the AKFC in the Phoenix is
Speaker 3: actually going to be better for the Warriors, going to
Speaker 3: be better for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeh see. I fall on the second side of that,
Speaker 2: the latter of those two things only, I guess because
Speaker 2: to us, I've seen what rivalry and a derby has
Speaker 2: done to the A League in very quick time. It's
Speaker 2: become the hottest ticket in town and on Saturday, I'll
Speaker 2: be there at Mount Smart along with twenty seven thousand
Speaker 2: others to watch a game of football between two New
Speaker 2: Zealand sides. Look, I get both sides of the argument,
Speaker 2: but I think competition in any industry, and particularly in
Speaker 2: sports is a good thing. I can understand why the
Speaker 2: Warriors would rather be kings of the New Zealand Castle
Speaker 2: when it comes to the NRL. I'm sure the Phoenix
Speaker 2: thought exactly the same way. They would probably in their
Speaker 2: private moments, prefer that it was still just them. But
Speaker 2: you cannot deny what competition has done to the A League.
Speaker 2: And you know, notwithstanding what you've said about the fact
Speaker 2: that it might never happen anyway. I think a second
Speaker 2: New Zealand team would be very good for rugby league
Speaker 2: in this country.
Speaker 3: Now I'll be all over it. And as for the derby,
Speaker 3: you have to be there because you're calling it. You're
Speaker 3: not really part of a sellout because you didn't pay
Speaker 3: for your ticket, did you, piney?
Speaker 2: No, I did not pay for the ticket. I was.
Speaker 2: I was handed a pass which gets me in, gets
Speaker 2: me in a back corridor of go media and up
Speaker 2: to the box. I can't wait, look I I In fact,
Speaker 2: in many ways I wish I was sitting out with
Speaker 2: the port or standing with the port.
Speaker 3: Just a quick word on that again, another huge derby.
Speaker 3: It just underlines how good this is for the sport
Speaker 3: and whether you like it or not, I'm still watching,
Speaker 3: and I'm watching both teams. I can't help myself now.
Speaker 3: I never thought i'd ever say that it's not stopped.
Speaker 3: I'm gripped, mate, gripped.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's It's been a real boon all right now,
Speaker 2: you and I. I'm sure I had similar sleeping patterns
Speaker 2: last night. I tried to watch as much of New
Speaker 2: Zealand dinings as I could last night, got through to
Speaker 2: about one o'clock in the morning, at which point Tom
Speaker 2: Latham was merely going on his way towards the century.
Speaker 2: Then I wake up every sort of forty five minutes
Speaker 2: to check the Pakistan and ths what a start for
Speaker 2: the Black Caps at the Champions Trophy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I stayed away till two o'clock. I was going
Speaker 3: to go about one the last ten overs Kirby interesting
Speaker 3: the way they've set their store out and wha was
Speaker 3: it interesting? That was an absolute assault. It really was
Speaker 3: on Pakistan. And as I've mentioned, I think the pressure
Speaker 3: on Pakistan to perform at home in this big tournament
Speaker 3: in their backyard, the pressure from the fans are from themselves.
Speaker 3: It was too much. They really started unraveling in that
Speaker 3: last ten overs and it didn't obviously get much better.
Speaker 3: But this is a perfect launching pad. It's huge for
Speaker 3: this team.
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. And in such a short tournament format where
Speaker 2: you've got three Paul games and then only the top
Speaker 2: two go through, winning the first game is such a boost.
Speaker 2: And while Bangladesh do have the potential to chuck a
Speaker 2: banana skin under the feet of the Black Apps, I
Speaker 2: think they will well and truly back themselves to beat
Speaker 2: Bangladesh and then go into that final group game against
Speaker 2: India knowing that even defeat there might not matter, they
Speaker 2: might still be through. But this seems like a team
Speaker 2: full of confidence starts and look, isn't it amazing what
Speaker 2: a few warm up games can do?
Speaker 3: Ah, I know exacly what you're referencing. Good on you, elbow.
Speaker 3: And the thing for me is what comes up next.
Speaker 3: As far as the opening bat, I mean, Devin Conway
Speaker 3: scored some runs in a week or so ago. Will
Speaker 3: Young is incredible with the way he keeps on coming
Speaker 3: in as a replacement, saving the day, not unlike Matt
Speaker 3: Henry in a bowling front and now Matt's got his
Speaker 3: front and center and gets that role. But when Rutchin
Speaker 3: comes back again, does Devin Conway move to one side?
Speaker 3: Does Will Young move to one side? This is a debate.
Speaker 3: And of course I've got Jamison as well, who's gone
Speaker 3: over there? Does he come in? Does Nathan Smith make way?
Speaker 3: It's a good problem to have.
Speaker 2: It is at the top of the order. I don't
Speaker 2: see how he can drop well Young, you can't drop
Speaker 2: a focus just got one hundred. I get that he
Speaker 2: has often in his career been the guy who makes Way.
Speaker 2: But I kind of feel as that might be revenge
Speaker 2: and for Conway if he is fit for Bangladesh on
Speaker 2: Monday night, New Zealand time. I guess, as you say,
Speaker 2: it is a nice problem to have as the sleepless
Speaker 2: nights ahead for the likes of you and I, the
Speaker 2: cricketing public of New Zealand, and anyone who supports our
Speaker 2: boys hitting a red or white ball around the around
Speaker 2: the globe.
Speaker 3: Good Hey. Dylan Cleave, the ex colleague of mine, writes
Speaker 3: a fantastic blog and a newsletter. He wrote something really
Speaker 3: cool today. In his newsletter. He wrote that it looked
Speaker 3: like Will Young was batting on another surface. Hard to
Speaker 3: disagree with what the bouncers said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read that too, and I totally agree. In
Speaker 2: the early stages of that innings, everybody else seemed to
Speaker 2: be all at sea, but it was calm, smooth waters
Speaker 2: underneath the kayak of Will Young.
Speaker 3: And how matters snot as Glenn Phillips got on his hands.
Speaker 3: I mean he's got he's got hands like a chameleon's tongue.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wondered where you would going, but now I
Speaker 2: understand the one handed cats. That's become a trademark of
Speaker 2: Glenn Phillips. Much more of that to come, we hope
Speaker 2: as well as this tournament progresses. That is us send
Speaker 2: the chamber today.
Speaker 3: Dissecting the sporting agenda.
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