1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from news Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 2: That'd be. 4 00:00:13,613 --> 00:00:16,053 Speaker 3: Six the minutes past nine on news Talks. Thank you 5 00:00:16,173 --> 00:00:19,533 Speaker 3: very much for your text this morning. Jack definitely should 6 00:00:19,533 --> 00:00:21,973 Speaker 3: be on the retailer's shoulders to cover the costs. The 7 00:00:22,013 --> 00:00:24,333 Speaker 3: Ministry of Education should cover it in the short term, 8 00:00:24,413 --> 00:00:27,133 Speaker 3: and then they should sue came Art and the other 9 00:00:27,293 --> 00:00:31,773 Speaker 3: retailers as a collective. I mean, it just seems to 10 00:00:31,813 --> 00:00:34,493 Speaker 3: me I would be lying if I said I knew 11 00:00:34,573 --> 00:00:39,893 Speaker 3: every single word and every single implication and requirement on 12 00:00:40,133 --> 00:00:43,453 Speaker 3: retailers under the Consumer Guarantees Act. But it does seem 13 00:00:43,453 --> 00:00:47,933 Speaker 3: to me extraordinary that retailers wouldn't have ultimate liability for this. 14 00:00:48,893 --> 00:00:53,573 Speaker 3: If retailers and obviously manufacturers, but retailers as the kind 15 00:00:53,613 --> 00:00:56,973 Speaker 3: of front window or as the shop window, the literal 16 00:00:56,973 --> 00:00:59,493 Speaker 3: shop window in this case, didn't have responsibility for this. 17 00:00:59,773 --> 00:01:01,573 Speaker 3: But at the very least, I just think there's a 18 00:01:01,653 --> 00:01:04,213 Speaker 3: risk that schools are being forced to kind of fight 19 00:01:04,293 --> 00:01:08,093 Speaker 3: for this in isolation at the moment, And yeah, I 20 00:01:08,973 --> 00:01:12,173 Speaker 3: you know, it would just be so frustrating when you're 21 00:01:12,213 --> 00:01:16,013 Speaker 3: dealing with all of those immediate health and safety issues 22 00:01:16,573 --> 00:01:19,173 Speaker 3: trying to make sure that your space is safe for 23 00:01:19,293 --> 00:01:22,213 Speaker 3: children to then be thinking where are we going to 24 00:01:22,253 --> 00:01:24,293 Speaker 3: find the tens of thousands of dollars that's going to 25 00:01:24,293 --> 00:01:25,853 Speaker 3: cost to cover all of this. I'll get to more 26 00:01:25,853 --> 00:01:27,493 Speaker 3: your feedback in a couple of minute, heaves A text 27 00:01:27,493 --> 00:01:29,013 Speaker 3: coming in ninety two to ninety two is the text 28 00:01:29,093 --> 00:01:31,453 Speaker 3: number if you want to send us a Keevin Milne 29 00:01:31,573 --> 00:01:33,693 Speaker 3: is with us this morning, killeder Kevin, good. 30 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:37,133 Speaker 2: Morning, good a Jack. Good on you for getting into 31 00:01:37,173 --> 00:01:40,613 Speaker 2: the subject. And it is outrageous, isn't it that a 32 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:46,893 Speaker 2: real retailer can abdicate responsibility in the way and direct 33 00:01:47,053 --> 00:01:51,933 Speaker 2: customers to manufacturers in China? For goodness sake? Now, I 34 00:01:51,973 --> 00:01:55,173 Speaker 2: think I did know those consumer laws back to the 35 00:01:55,253 --> 00:01:58,493 Speaker 2: front in my day. Yeah, so it's fifteen years and 36 00:01:58,573 --> 00:02:01,133 Speaker 2: so they fair go. There may have been some changes, 37 00:02:01,493 --> 00:02:04,253 Speaker 2: but in the past you could not do that. No, 38 00:02:05,053 --> 00:02:10,253 Speaker 2: you took responsibility yourself. Yeah, and you may want to 39 00:02:10,293 --> 00:02:14,053 Speaker 2: share the costs with the manufacturer. You may want to 40 00:02:14,093 --> 00:02:17,373 Speaker 2: bundle all your costs over to the manufacturer, but that 41 00:02:17,573 --> 00:02:20,533 Speaker 2: was up to you as a retailer in terms of 42 00:02:20,573 --> 00:02:25,093 Speaker 2: your relationship with the with the consumer, you had to 43 00:02:25,173 --> 00:02:25,973 Speaker 2: sort them out. 44 00:02:26,093 --> 00:02:28,333 Speaker 3: I think it's as important point out. It's not just 45 00:02:28,413 --> 00:02:30,053 Speaker 3: came out who's been selling the sand, So they were 46 00:02:30,053 --> 00:02:31,733 Speaker 3: the ones who were selling the sand that we had 47 00:02:31,853 --> 00:02:34,813 Speaker 3: for which we had the original recall. But so in 48 00:02:34,853 --> 00:02:37,333 Speaker 3: the last week it's been revealed, you know, they've done 49 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:39,653 Speaker 3: more testing and they found that these other colored sand 50 00:02:39,733 --> 00:02:42,013 Speaker 3: products three this week that have been sold at different 51 00:02:42,013 --> 00:02:45,253 Speaker 3: places also have traces of asbestos in them. I mean, 52 00:02:45,613 --> 00:02:48,093 Speaker 3: you know, I think it came out as being a 53 00:02:48,093 --> 00:02:51,613 Speaker 3: pretty responsible retailer personally. I mean, they've had huge success 54 00:02:51,653 --> 00:02:53,893 Speaker 3: in the last few years, huge growth across the country 55 00:02:53,933 --> 00:02:56,373 Speaker 3: in the last few years. So yeah, you'd certainly look 56 00:02:56,453 --> 00:02:58,613 Speaker 3: to them and expect them to do the right thing. 57 00:02:59,013 --> 00:03:01,053 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm glad. Well, maybe we can get you 58 00:03:01,093 --> 00:03:02,933 Speaker 3: on the case Kevin fifteen. 59 00:03:02,653 --> 00:03:07,613 Speaker 2: Years back the story BlimE me, Yeah, this is where 60 00:03:07,653 --> 00:03:09,213 Speaker 2: you needed Fair go really. 61 00:03:09,093 --> 00:03:12,253 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely no. I mean, I think I think it's 62 00:03:12,253 --> 00:03:15,293 Speaker 3: outrageous that schools are being at the very least feel 63 00:03:15,333 --> 00:03:17,413 Speaker 3: like they are fighting this on, you know, by themselves 64 00:03:17,413 --> 00:03:20,133 Speaker 3: at the moment. I think it's that righteous and underreporter. 65 00:03:20,213 --> 00:03:21,973 Speaker 3: So we're going to bang the drum. Given we're going 66 00:03:21,973 --> 00:03:24,013 Speaker 3: to bang the drum, got on, we will how you 67 00:03:24,093 --> 00:03:26,053 Speaker 3: want to give a little bouquet to a little home 68 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:28,573 Speaker 3: business this week that fixes puzzles. 69 00:03:28,933 --> 00:03:31,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, at home here we have a vintage wooden 70 00:03:31,693 --> 00:03:36,453 Speaker 2: children's puzzle nineteen fifties. I'd guess. It's a toy family 71 00:03:37,053 --> 00:03:40,693 Speaker 2: of six, with each member of the family hand painted 72 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:44,813 Speaker 2: on a thick wooden piece, a thick piece of wood 73 00:03:45,253 --> 00:03:51,013 Speaker 2: that fits into identically matching slots on a varnished wooden base. 74 00:03:51,493 --> 00:03:54,853 Speaker 2: So you've got these these figures and you slide them 75 00:03:54,853 --> 00:03:58,813 Speaker 2: into a little into a little I don't know, indent 76 00:03:58,933 --> 00:04:03,693 Speaker 2: in the in the wood. Each wooden painted family member 77 00:04:03,733 --> 00:04:07,173 Speaker 2: has a distinct sort of cutout shape to match the 78 00:04:07,293 --> 00:04:09,973 Speaker 2: slot on the board. Our kids enjoyed it a lot, 79 00:04:10,013 --> 00:04:13,853 Speaker 2: fitting each member into the slot. We had it out 80 00:04:13,933 --> 00:04:16,933 Speaker 2: to give to our grandchildren to play with, but Sid, 81 00:04:17,573 --> 00:04:20,893 Speaker 2: our one year old retriever, found it first. He bit 82 00:04:20,973 --> 00:04:23,453 Speaker 2: the head off the father of the family and swallowed it. 83 00:04:24,653 --> 00:04:29,173 Speaker 2: We were sad about this. It was a beautiful old toy. 84 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:32,453 Speaker 2: But my wife Linda, who's kindy teacher, heard there was 85 00:04:32,493 --> 00:04:37,573 Speaker 2: a one woman business in Tiawamutu that fixed puzzles. It 86 00:04:37,613 --> 00:04:40,773 Speaker 2: has the lovely name all better the sort of thing 87 00:04:40,853 --> 00:04:43,853 Speaker 2: you say to a kid when you've fixed something. Anyway, 88 00:04:44,413 --> 00:04:47,693 Speaker 2: we sent the precious puzzle with the headless dad off 89 00:04:47,733 --> 00:04:50,813 Speaker 2: to Janice at all Better in Tiowa Mutu, with no 90 00:04:50,933 --> 00:04:55,493 Speaker 2: great hopes that its vintage charm could be recreated. Well, 91 00:04:55,613 --> 00:04:58,933 Speaker 2: the puzzle was back in our letter box five days later. 92 00:04:59,453 --> 00:05:04,573 Speaker 2: It looked stunning. Clearly, Janice, who runs the place, knows 93 00:05:04,613 --> 00:05:08,773 Speaker 2: a thing or two about vint artwork and puzzles. But 94 00:05:08,893 --> 00:05:11,573 Speaker 2: why I tell the story was that with the puzzle 95 00:05:11,613 --> 00:05:16,053 Speaker 2: came the invoice for exceptionally skillful work. The bill came 96 00:05:16,093 --> 00:05:20,413 Speaker 2: to twenty three dollars fifty, which included freight and handling 97 00:05:20,453 --> 00:05:24,893 Speaker 2: of thirteen dollars fifty. In other words, Janie did this 98 00:05:24,973 --> 00:05:29,213 Speaker 2: outstanding work for ten bucks. Yeah, yeah, Jack. We've heard 99 00:05:29,253 --> 00:05:31,933 Speaker 2: a lot this week about how our giant industry is 100 00:05:31,933 --> 00:05:35,253 Speaker 2: are turning the economy around, and that's great, But I 101 00:05:35,253 --> 00:05:38,453 Speaker 2: think of Janice doing brilliant work on her own in 102 00:05:38,533 --> 00:05:42,853 Speaker 2: Tiawa Mutu. In my mind, she deserves as much credit 103 00:05:43,293 --> 00:05:47,093 Speaker 2: as the CEO of fon Terror. So if you need 104 00:05:47,213 --> 00:05:52,613 Speaker 2: kids puzzles, fixed listeners, Janes's email address will be up 105 00:05:52,653 --> 00:05:56,133 Speaker 2: on news talk s edb's website to be online. 106 00:05:56,213 --> 00:06:00,093 Speaker 3: So yes, going to be a welmcare Yeah. 107 00:06:00,173 --> 00:06:04,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'd like to take a run. Yeah, she's 108 00:06:04,213 --> 00:06:05,733 Speaker 2: not going to get a fright because I rung up 109 00:06:05,773 --> 00:06:07,853 Speaker 2: and I said, look, I want to do something to 110 00:06:07,933 --> 00:06:11,693 Speaker 2: help you. This is fantastic the work that you've done. 111 00:06:11,893 --> 00:06:16,293 Speaker 2: And so she knows that she may get inundated, but 112 00:06:16,613 --> 00:06:17,493 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. 113 00:06:17,573 --> 00:06:19,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Kevin, bit of a moment last night at 114 00:06:19,893 --> 00:06:22,613 Speaker 3: TV's oh yeah. 115 00:06:22,653 --> 00:06:26,373 Speaker 2: Which i'd been there, you know. I think in a way, 116 00:06:27,373 --> 00:06:30,053 Speaker 2: Simon's kind of my link with the people that are 117 00:06:30,053 --> 00:06:34,133 Speaker 2: now on TV. Yeah, and it would have been a 118 00:06:34,133 --> 00:06:37,013 Speaker 2: great opportunity to have caught up with all you all 119 00:06:37,093 --> 00:06:41,053 Speaker 2: you guys, there's no there are very very few opportunities 120 00:06:41,093 --> 00:06:41,333 Speaker 2: for that. 121 00:06:41,573 --> 00:06:44,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'm sorry you went there. It 122 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:46,733 Speaker 3: was it was a really special moment. So Simon Dello 123 00:06:46,813 --> 00:06:49,813 Speaker 3: read his last bulletin having been a tv Z for 124 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:53,293 Speaker 3: I think thirty years, and and came out and then 125 00:06:53,333 --> 00:06:55,853 Speaker 3: you know, and they did the you know, I just 126 00:06:55,853 --> 00:06:58,813 Speaker 3: thought it was like so professional up to the last 127 00:06:59,413 --> 00:07:01,933 Speaker 3: you know, syllable of the last word, Like it was 128 00:07:02,053 --> 00:07:03,493 Speaker 3: just it was classic Simon. 129 00:07:04,653 --> 00:07:09,013 Speaker 2: He's utterly professional. P Yeah. Yeah, but actually quite Alarica 130 00:07:09,173 --> 00:07:12,733 Speaker 2: now and well back in the when I was around 131 00:07:12,733 --> 00:07:17,933 Speaker 2: there quite Alarican outside of the nut Yeah, yeah, yeah, 132 00:07:19,133 --> 00:07:20,733 Speaker 2: he likes to have a bit of fun. 133 00:07:20,853 --> 00:07:23,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, he certainly does. Know he is a real character. 134 00:07:23,973 --> 00:07:26,693 Speaker 3: But and he came out and you know, everyone everyone 135 00:07:26,853 --> 00:07:29,573 Speaker 3: was there, and you know, there was just some lovely 136 00:07:29,613 --> 00:07:32,493 Speaker 3: speeches and and it was a real sort of moment. Actually, 137 00:07:32,493 --> 00:07:34,573 Speaker 3: it felt like it felt like a really kind of 138 00:07:34,613 --> 00:07:36,653 Speaker 3: significant moment. It was. It was very special. 139 00:07:36,773 --> 00:07:41,413 Speaker 2: So that's right. He deserves the brilliant farewell. 140 00:07:41,493 --> 00:07:41,773 Speaker 1: Yeah. 141 00:07:41,813 --> 00:07:44,973 Speaker 3: Absolutely, hey, thank you so much. Given we will keep moving, 142 00:07:45,013 --> 00:07:47,213 Speaker 3: catching him very soon. Kevin melm with us this morning. 143 00:07:47,253 --> 00:07:48,773 Speaker 3: Like he says that email addressed to be up on 144 00:07:48,813 --> 00:07:51,373 Speaker 3: the News Talks, he'd be website. 145 00:07:51,493 --> 00:07:54,573 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 146 00:07:54,693 --> 00:07:57,493 Speaker 1: to News Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or 147 00:07:57,573 --> 00:07:59,493 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.