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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News,

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Speaker 1: togs Head, Been and Well.

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Speaker 2: Term Today, Good news on the tourist Spend, Bad news

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Speaker 2: on the Way. We treat Twin's insights into our power

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Speaker 2: industry as one company post the worst result ever. We

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Speaker 2: go to the Gulf which teams off today. Talk with

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Speaker 2: Andrew Webster in Vegas ahead of to kick off of

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Speaker 2: the season. Check In with the Pope with Joe Say Hardy,

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Speaker 2: Hi to our.

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Speaker 3: Mate Rod little bit pasking.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day. Seven past six. Now, the word

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Speaker 2: was when Zelenski first saw what the US wanted in

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Speaker 2: a minerals deal, he screamed so loudly the US envoy

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Speaker 2: was left shaking. But here we are a couple of

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Speaker 2: days later and he's on his way to Washington to

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Speaker 2: sign it off Saturday our time. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: chaos in the White House, mind you. As we've said

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Speaker 2: earlier on this year, there was a lot of chaos

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Speaker 2: last time, and mainly everyone survived. But what we observed

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen through twenty and what sadly too many are

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Speaker 2: failing to remember is that broadly the chaos is deliberate

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Speaker 2: and what starts out as nutty ends up with something

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Speaker 2: resembling normalcy. The world has been tipped upside down. We

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Speaker 2: read America has left NATO and Europe and now backs Russia.

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Speaker 2: Has it or has it simply applied enough pressure and

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Speaker 2: doubt in order to bring a bloke to the table

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Speaker 2: to cut a deal, Depending on what's actually in that deal.

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Speaker 2: Where does this leave europeay I mean, is Europe's still

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Speaker 2: happy to have handed over all it has handed over

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Speaker 2: seemingly for little more than solidarity with a neighbor. Or

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Speaker 2: do they now look at the multi billion dollar transfer

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Speaker 2: of wealth to America as a missed opportunity. What I

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Speaker 2: think we know about Trump is he's not interested in wars,

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Speaker 2: He's interested in deals. He has the advantage of being

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Speaker 2: in charge of the biggest military operation on Earth. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't need to fight, he just needs to imply he can.

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Speaker 2: If the minerals deal is as reported to this point,

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Speaker 2: Ukraine has guarantees of sorts on security given Americas in

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Speaker 2: the business, of course of protecting their newfound interests. The

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Speaker 2: American economy gains it sends a rare earth message to China.

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Speaker 2: It sets a precedent for American cooperation anywhere on Earth,

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Speaker 2: and it's a mass of political win. This arrangement could

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Speaker 2: have been done at any point, But that's the art

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Speaker 2: of the deal, isn't it. It wasn't until Trump did it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, he had to call Zelenski a dictator,

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Speaker 2: so yes, he wouldn't have a country left freak Europe out.

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Speaker 2: But if you can end a war in a month,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying he has, but he might. As

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Speaker 2: unconventional as the approach may be, history will record the result,

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Speaker 2: not the method.

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Speaker 3: What news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: We still don't know what they have agreed to read

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Speaker 2: the minerals, But is it directly tied to a peace deal?

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Speaker 2: Was Zolensky's working hard?

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Speaker 4: Without future security guarantees? We will not have really just

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Speaker 4: fish and we will not have really satisfied.

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Speaker 5: What Trump's spoken involved.

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Speaker 4: And if we don't have it, nothing will work.

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Speaker 2: Now back in Washington, very big win for the Republicans

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Speaker 2: as well. This is the big, beautiful bill and the

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Speaker 2: budget got over the line first time.

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Speaker 6: We are going to deliver the American First Agenda We're

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Speaker 6: going to deliver all of it, not just parts of it,

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Speaker 6: and this is the first step in that process.

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Speaker 2: DM's are furious House Republican bus it resolution.

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Speaker 7: We'll set in motion the largest medicaid cut in American history.

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Speaker 7: Children will be devastated, families devastated.

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Speaker 2: Then down down south in Florida, Governor DeSantis, who is

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Speaker 2: time limited, will leave office midterms next year. A little

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Speaker 2: bit upset the Trump is endorsed a blood called Byron

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Speaker 2: Donalds for the Governor's rice when Ron's got a bitter.

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Speaker 7: Idea, she's somebody that has I think that the intestinal

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Speaker 7: fortitude and the dedication to conservative principles that you know,

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Speaker 7: anything we've accomplished, she'd be able to take to the

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Speaker 7: next level.

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Speaker 2: Who is she? It's his wife, old Byron not having

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Speaker 2: any of that.

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Speaker 8: My focus would be on making sure that every child

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Speaker 8: has the tools available to them to be proficient in

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Speaker 8: math and reading, in writing and in reasoning. Those are

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Speaker 8: the things that are going to take our state from

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Speaker 8: being great now to being even greater.

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Speaker 2: Than the Lifties in Scotland who are also having a

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Speaker 2: boat next year. Starting to read a little bit about

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Speaker 2: this broad move this scene to the right all over Europe.

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Speaker 9: It's important that those of us who are repulsed by

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Speaker 9: the politics of Forage and the far right come together

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Speaker 9: to give the leadership and stress the importance of the

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Speaker 9: values that we hold there about our society.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem with the Scottish society. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you've looked at it lately. Finally, the World's Top

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Speaker 2: one hundred Best Coffee Shops that lists out Toby's Estate

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Speaker 2: Coffee Roasters in Sydney is your winner. Now. It was

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Speaker 2: Judge the Beast based on quality of the coffee and

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Speaker 2: the food, sustainability practices, customer service, public and expert reviews.

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Speaker 2: Now they as it turns out, Toby's are all over the place,

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Speaker 2: including Fitzroy and Melbourne. Their flagship, by the way, next

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Speaker 2: time you're in Sydney is in the Westfield Mall Pitt Street.

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Speaker 2: Then you've got Proud Mery Coffee in Melbourne. They also

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Speaker 2: met it in the top five in the whole world.

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Speaker 2: You're going to find them in Oxford Street, Collingwood Rocket

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Speaker 2: Coffee Roasters in Hamilton. That was our best, only sixty second,

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid to tell you. Use the world in mighty Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that vote I mentioned a moment ago on the budget.

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Speaker 2: The big, beautiful budget is not to be underestimated. This

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Speaker 2: was the first test for the speaker. Mike Johnson got

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Speaker 2: it across the line on round one two seventeen to

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Speaker 2: two fifteen. They only lost one Republican in it, so

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Speaker 2: that's he's a fiscal hawk. Guy called Thomas from Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: He wanted more cuts and go crazy, but nevertheless the

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Speaker 2: cutting four and a half trillion, and that's got the

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Speaker 2: Democrats upset. But the important point was could they get

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Speaker 2: something substantive through and the answer is yes. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: I will Pandreck callaher. Good morning, Very good morning.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 2: You found a little bit of life in the inzidex.

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Speaker 2: Thank the good Lord.

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Speaker 10: I did hey before we launched into that. I'm in

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Speaker 10: Christis this morning. I know you have any fondness for Christis.

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Speaker 10: But taxi driver pole down there. Everyone's talking about tourism,

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Speaker 10: the taxi drivers yesterday. Never been busier? Who are telling me?

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Speaker 2: Never been busier? And if you're going to be a tourist,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't you be a tourist in christ You.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's cool. It's very course not as hot anyway.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Are you're looking over the Hagley Park?

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Speaker 10: I am actually yeah, I know where you are.

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Speaker 2: I know where you are. I know the sort of

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Speaker 2: places you stay. Mate, right, I talked to me. What

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Speaker 2: happened you yesterday? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: A bit of a sigh of relief, Mike from Investors

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Speaker 10: insects bounced back yesterday after what's been a challenging couple

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Speaker 10: of days. That recovered one hundred and forty five points,

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Speaker 10: about one point two percent. A couple of interesting comments,

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Speaker 10: big bounce back here from some of the property names

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Speaker 10: and put names like Investor. They were the biggest rise

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Speaker 10: of yesterday property for industry argacy. And I think I

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Speaker 10: said yesterday that the selling had been pretty indiscriminate. And

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Speaker 10: I look at a company like Investor, I mean, which

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Speaker 10: really bounced back well, it owns large format retail properties.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely nothing to.

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Speaker 10: Do with the retirement sector, you know, because remember it

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Speaker 10: was all the catalyst was that that Ryman transa and

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Speaker 10: it fell like eight or nine percent bounds back ten percent,

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Speaker 10: so some of that selling was a little hard to understand.

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Speaker 10: A little lighter on results yesterday, I did want to

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Speaker 10: pick up on Scales Corp, Mike, because it's a sort

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Speaker 10: of export related company that's not dairy related, and I

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Speaker 10: think we do need to keep an eye on X

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Speaker 10: dairy stuff.

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Speaker 2: And it was a good result.

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Speaker 10: And the Apples are going well, Mike, the old Dazzle,

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Speaker 10: they're going pretty good. Scales have three divisions, Global Proteins,

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Speaker 10: which is pet food and the Horticulture, which is the

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Speaker 10: Apple's business orchards, et cetera. And Logistics, which is relating

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Speaker 10: to air and sea freight. Underline earning is ninety one

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Speaker 10: point seven million, goodlift from the previous year which was

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Speaker 10: around sixty seven million. Net profit after tax on an

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Speaker 10: underlying basis forty percent rise from the previous year fifty

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Speaker 10: three point six million, so good numbers. Strong result from

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Speaker 10: the pet food, Global proteins area, Horticulture returning to sort

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Speaker 10: of more normal levels. Has been a challenging couple of

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Speaker 10: years for the Apple industry. They had a big major

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Speaker 10: I said, good to see logistics record results benefiting there

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Speaker 2: What are we expecting from in video given deepseak, etc.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think let's just talk about anybodeo. I don't

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Speaker 10: on the outcome. But the Nvidia are reporting after the

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Speaker 10: US market closes, so mid morning here this time around, mate,

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Speaker 10: this is a pivotal result and the outcome could really

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Speaker 10: set the tone for subsequent Magnificent seven company trading. And

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Speaker 10: we spoke yesterday about the weakness in the Magnificent seven

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Speaker 10: so far this year and stark contrast to how important

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Speaker 10: their performance has been in last year, particularly driving sort

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Speaker 10: of overall US share market performance. Can't ignore Tesla recently

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Speaker 10: make that share price down significantly from its descend behind.

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Speaker 10: In fact, down twenty six percent so far in February.

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Speaker 10: In video, result represents an opportunity for mag seven to

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Speaker 10: get their mojo back. I think the market would like

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Speaker 10: to see in video address the Deep Seek issue following

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Speaker 10: that recent release of the seemingly very cheaply made sort

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Speaker 10: billions of dollars on AI development, and questions being asked

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Speaker 10: as to quite what the economic payoff is going to

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Speaker 10: be of that capital spend. You know, in video, market

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Speaker 10: capitalization over three trillion US dollars plummeted after that Deep

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Speaker 10: Seak announcement. It has bounced back. It actually the the

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Speaker 10: the analyst sort of expectations that I've read are all

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Speaker 10: saying that this result is going to be okay, So

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Speaker 10: we wait and seeous. As I said, the share price

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Speaker 10: has recovered since then, and hopefully it's hopefully we don't

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Speaker 10: have a market moving result in.

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Speaker 2: The negative sense. What are the numbers so Sea of Green, Mike,

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Speaker 2: we like to see this.

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Speaker 10: The dal Jones is up seventy two points forty six

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Speaker 10: forty three thousand, six hundred and ninety four, the S

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Speaker 10: and P five hundred up about three quarters percent. Five thousand,

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Speaker 10: All of Europe looked pretty good last night. The FOOTS

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Speaker 12: Elon is here to give you summary of what's happening.

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Speaker 12: Many of these systems are extremely old.

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Speaker 5: They don't communicate.

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Speaker 14: Alex, I will offer you a total pardon because I.

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Speaker 1: Want to be friends, right, I want to be friends.

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Speaker 14: I will give you a total pardon for murdering that

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Speaker 14: woman if you kiss the ring, kiss the ring. Alex

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Speaker 14: kissed the big beautiful ring.

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Speaker 15: Come on, Alec.

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Speaker 14: He did that impersonation to me. It was not too hot,

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Speaker 3: You lost.

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Speaker 14: Kanala lost is somewhere getting intoxicated. And that's okay. Sure

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Speaker 10: We love the children.

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Speaker 3: We're doing great deals for the children.

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Speaker 14: Alec Border ladies and gentlemen class act, believe me.

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Speaker 2: Meridian came to the party. This is power. I'm fascinated

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Speaker 2: here now, the report for you that informs us that

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Speaker 2: Last year, five hundred and seven state care incidents were reported,

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Speaker 2: Jane morning.

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Speaker 16: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: I find all this very very depressing because I've been

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Speaker 17: Well, this report brings no surprises at all and still

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Speaker 16: It's a big ship to turn around, Mike.

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Speaker 17: But this report shows these leadership issues.

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Speaker 16: There and his basic systems issues.

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Speaker 2: So we could start there is the key in who

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Speaker 17: Well, as you've said, really concerning that so many of

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Speaker 17: this report, it's got failings on multiple levels, but we

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you seeing any signs of the so called

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Speaker 17: Well, this report and I think it's a pretty good snapshot,

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Speaker 16: We still have leadership issues.

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Speaker 17: We still have systems issues, computer and it issues. You know,

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Speaker 16: Progress is very very slow.

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Speaker 2: Are they a little bit trapped in the sense that

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming there's an extremely limited number of people who

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Speaker 16: Is that fair or not finding good placements?

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Speaker 17: It's very tough, that's completely fair. And you know it's

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Speaker 16: But we can do better than what we're doing.

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Speaker 17: I mean, as you said, over five hundred children suffering

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Speaker 16: Not a good enough standard.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get you on again. I'm sure Jane

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Speaker 13: Taking a lot of plat and getting a lot of

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Speaker 13: But if we don't do this America will go bankrupt.

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Speaker 2: This's Gouty's alight of would have done that.

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Speaker 13: We can actually find a twenty dollars and servings that

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Speaker 13: would be a roughie fifteen san puppets for seven twenty

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Speaker 13: dollars page.

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Speaker 2: Now, the interesting thing about those two fold interesting things.

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Speaker 2: One most of the people that worked from Quick yesterday,

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Speaker 2: so he's got a recruitment issue. And the second one,

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Speaker 2: I was watching a very interesting piece yesterday they discovered

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Speaker 2: who the so called head Elon Musk is not the

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Speaker 2: official head of DOGE. The official head of DOGE is

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Speaker 2: a woman whose name I can't remember, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter because you've never heard of it. She's just she's

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Speaker 2: just a bureaucrat that they've made the head of DOGE. Now,

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Speaker 2: the problem was they wanted to talk to the head

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Speaker 2: of DOGE, this woman but I think the name is Linda,

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Speaker 2: and they wanted to talk to Linda. But Linda's currently

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Speaker 2: on holiday in Mexico, so I don't know what we're

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Speaker 2: hang on. Has she got a list of five things

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Speaker 2: that she's done well. One of them is going on

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Speaker 2: holiday to Mexico eighteen to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b I remember there's enormous pressure on them to

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Speaker 2: place children back with extended family, many of whom are

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Speaker 2: dysfunctional themselves. That's seven double A. That's what that's all about,

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Speaker 2: and Karen Shaw and the battle goes on. Of course,

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Speaker 2: they did need to before the cabinet meeting started. I

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Speaker 2: need to deal with the letter.

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Speaker 12: The letter asks some simple questions like what have you

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Speaker 12: done lately? And they can answer that because I can.

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Speaker 12: I can tell you everything I've done for the last

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Speaker 12: long period of time, a lot more than a week.

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Speaker 18: And in many cases we haven't gotten responses. Usually that

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Speaker 18: means that maybe that person doesn't exist, but that person

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Speaker 18: doesn't want to say they're working for another company while

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Speaker 18: being paid by the United States government.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance.

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Speaker 3: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: We'll be away from siven. Let us go to Italy

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Speaker 2: and Joe mckennabury, good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good morning Mike. You might hear behind me some noise

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Speaker 19: because I'm in the Vatican press room at the moment

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Speaker 19: for the latest update.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, weally updated. I'm reading in front of me at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Looks positive, doesn't it.

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Speaker 19: It looks very positive. There's a slight improvement in the

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Speaker 19: Pope's condition. According to the Vatican, the latest CT scan,

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Speaker 19: his third of his lungs since being admitted to hospital

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Speaker 19: on February fourteen, shows what they call a normal evolution,

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Speaker 19: which sounds like some improvement there of his pulmonary condition,

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Speaker 19: the renal insufficiency, the problem he had with his kidneys

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Speaker 19: seems to have receded, and he's had no respiratory crisis

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Speaker 19: in the last forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, if you go back a couple of days to

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Speaker 2: where he was and where he is now, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think there's reason for real hope, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there certainly is.

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Speaker 19: However, I did speak to a geriatrician at another Italian

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Speaker 19: hospital today, not where the Pope is currently being treated,

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Speaker 19: and he said he could be there for another week

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Speaker 19: to ten days. Pneumonia is much more complicated in the elderly.

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Speaker 19: Absolute rest is essential, and because this is a man

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Speaker 19: that loves human contact and loves to be active. This

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Speaker 19: could be you know, a real problem for him. She's

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Speaker 19: coming out of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we wish and well obviously, and we'll stay

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Speaker 2: in touch with the story. As far as the Zelitski's

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Speaker 2: on his way to Washington Saturday our time, we've got

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Speaker 2: some sort of minerals deal. Apparently the some debate star

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Speaker 2: is on his way to Washington. They're talking about boots

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Speaker 2: on the ground and peacekeepers and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So as far as this is concerned Ukraine, where is

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Speaker 2: Italy at.

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 19: Prime Minister Georgia Maloney has been a little bit nuanced,

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Speaker 19: i think in her response, but we did see a

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Speaker 19: strong response today saying it's not possible to have lasting

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Speaker 19: peace in Ukraine unless Kiev gets the guarantees that it

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Speaker 19: won't be invaded by Russia. Again, she was meeting with

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Speaker 19: the Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Christensen in Rome. I think

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Speaker 19: she's been reluctant to commit Italian troops and it seems

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Speaker 19: like she's trying to be friends, as we've said before,

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Speaker 19: with both the EU and President Trump at this point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then you she is busy at the moment

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Speaker 2: because the head of the UAE is there, and this

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Speaker 2: looks to be very good business.

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Speaker 19: Yes, Prime Minister Maloney has had a strategy to pursue

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Speaker 19: stronger ties with golf countries, and it looks like she's

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Speaker 19: signing a deal with the United Arab Emirates. They're talking

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Speaker 19: about that country investing forty billion US dollars in Italy

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Speaker 19: after this bilateral summit that we had in Rome on Monday.

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Speaker 19: Under her watch, Italy has lifted the arm sales embargoes

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Speaker 19: for the UAE imposed by previous governments due to the

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Speaker 19: war in Yemen, and so it looks like she wants

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Speaker 19: to go full steam ahead, and this would involve deals

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Speaker 19: related to energy and talations. I think for the most part.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you still waiting for the Vatican update or

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Speaker 2: it's just been given.

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Speaker 19: We've had a written update, and the head of the

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Speaker 19: press office, Mattio Bruni, is just giving a more detailed

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Speaker 19: update right now, but essentially we know that he's made

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Speaker 19: it's a slight improvement.

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Speaker 2: Good, good, good good. All right, I'll let you get

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Speaker 2: back to the appreciator very much. Joe McKenna, who is

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Speaker 2: at the Vetican this morning, by the way, just back

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Speaker 2: to Trump very briefly. Fox as in the television network.

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Speaker 2: They put out their ratings this morning, and any Trump

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Speaker 2: administration is always good for Fox. In general, they're number

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Speaker 2: one overall and have been for a number of years now,

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Speaker 2: but this month has been their biggest audience in the

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Speaker 2: history of Fox. Up fifty percent on last year. They

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Speaker 2: got sixty eight percent of the twenty five fifty four

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Speaker 2: year olds, which is a monumental number. They've averaged a

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Speaker 2: little bit over three million viewers in primetime each night. MSNBC,

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Speaker 2: who were hemorrhaging at the moment, they weren't a weird place.

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Speaker 2: They're laying some people off at the moment at MSNBC,

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Speaker 2: and what's the name Rachel Meadow. She packs it. She

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Speaker 2: goes on a show, packs a massive sad about her

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Speaker 2: own company, laying everybody off, and starts whining and bitching

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Speaker 2: about it, and so there in meltdown. Anyway, they've got

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Speaker 2: a million viewers versus Fox's three, which is down sixteen percent. CNN,

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Speaker 2: who are also hemorrhaging staff at the moment, they're down

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Speaker 2: three percent. They've got an average of five one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty. That's about what we have. And just think,

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Speaker 2: just think about it. C and Na's Global. They got

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Speaker 2: an average of about five hundred. We got a little

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Speaker 2: less than five hundred thousand. But but you know, we're

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: It's such a good point.

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Speaker 20: They're terrible. We should be doing better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we should. Yeah, what's the matter with us? We

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Speaker 2: need to doze ourselves anyway. The Fox Fox are enjoying

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration. Ten minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Makehosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be the final comments from Trump before he gets

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Speaker 2: underway with his cabinet meeting. I'm not going to make

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Speaker 2: security guarantees beyond very much. I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: that means. But the guarantees are implied because the Americans

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Speaker 2: will have mineral interests in Ukraine. That's your security guarantee.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have Europe do that because he's talking

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Speaker 2: boots on the ground. Of course, we're talking about Europe

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Speaker 2: as their next door neighbor, but we're making sure everything

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Speaker 2: goes well. He doesn't think Putin had any intention of

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Speaker 2: settling the war. I think he wanted the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: When I got elected, we spoke, and I think we're

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Speaker 2: going to have a deal. So it looks like it's

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Speaker 2: coming to some sort of culmination. So we follow the

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Speaker 2: great deal ofmentarant. Meantime, Old Mark, who's been up in China,

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Speaker 2: as in Mark Brown, the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands,

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Speaker 2: who's written by the way to Christopher luxeb in a

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Speaker 2: very nineteen ninety three sort of vent. Anyway, Mark's back

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Speaker 2: and he faced his vote of no confidence in the Parliament.

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Speaker 2: He won at thirteen to nine, So that was never

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Speaker 2: going anywhere. Winston has been up in China. It didn't

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Speaker 2: seem to He didn't seem to raise the cook So

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Speaker 2: I read the communicator. The cooks didn't seem to be

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Speaker 2: a topic of discussion. They didn't discuss the ships. The

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Speaker 2: ships are interesting because the Australian Navy looks increasingly asleep

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Speaker 2: at the wheel and we look increasingly good. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: more on that later five minutes away from seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Ins and the Outs, it's the Bears with business timer

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Speaker 1: take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: And then this fascinating new insight into India as well.

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Speaker 2: For BBC's running this this morning. There's a new report

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Speaker 2: from venture capital firm Bloom Beaches and it found that

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Speaker 2: of the one point four billion people who live in India,

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Speaker 2: most of them don't have any money. The vast majority

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Speaker 2: of them don't have any money. More than a billion

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Speaker 2: people have literally no money to spend on anything outside

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Speaker 2: of the necessities. In fact, there's only one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty to one hundred and forty million people, which is

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Speaker 2: just the size of Mexico, who actually are what they

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Speaker 2: call the consuming class. So then simple terms, domestic wealth

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Speaker 2: is extremely limited. So everyone goes, oh, there's one point

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Speaker 2: four billion people in India, Yes, there are, but they

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Speaker 2: haven't got any money. So they've got about three hundred

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Speaker 2: million people who call or part of what they're calling

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Speaker 2: the emerging or aspiring consumers. But they're reluctant spenders and

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Speaker 2: they've only just started to spend their discretionary income such

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Speaker 2: as it is. And the trouble with that particular group

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Speaker 2: is it's shrinking, isn't getting any bigger, which essentially means

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Speaker 2: the wealthy are getting wealthier, but no one else is

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Speaker 2: joining them. So if you're wealthy already, you're going to

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Speaker 2: get more and more wealthy, but no one's you know,

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Speaker 2: the pies not growing. So the top ten percent of

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Speaker 2: Indians hold fifty seven point seven percent of the country's

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Speaker 2: wealth compared with thirty four percent in nineteen ninety. So

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Speaker 2: the richer getting richer. Bottom half has seen their share

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Speaker 2: drop from twenty two to fifteen percent. So businesses are

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Speaker 2: catering more and more to the wealthy. And the way

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Speaker 2: they're doing that it's the old iPhone thing. I know,

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Speaker 2: you've got an iPhone thirteen, but you really want a fourteen.

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Speaker 2: And now you've got a fourteen, you want a fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and so it goes. So they're just selling them more

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Speaker 2: of the same stuff. And affordable homes is a good example.

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Speaker 2: Just eighteen percent of India's overall market compared with forty

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Speaker 2: percent five years ago. So you build the flash house

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Speaker 2: as not the affordable homes, because no one's gotten your

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Speaker 2: money for an affordable home anyway. Now, bit of moaning.

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Speaker 2: Not overly happy about this, I got to tell you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we were bitching and moaning, weren't we about

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Speaker 2: the ram raids and the retail crime, and oh if

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Speaker 2: we had some powers to do something about it. Well,

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Speaker 2: now we are going to have those powers, and the

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Speaker 2: first thing we do is moan some more. What's the

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Speaker 2: matter with us new Zealand. We'll look at that, and

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Speaker 2: also tourism people aren't back, but spending is so and

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Speaker 2: that might be some good news, so we'll look at

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Speaker 2: that after the news as well.

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Speaker 11: For you.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Now,

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Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate Finding the buyers.

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Speaker 3: Others can't use togs dead b seven.

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Speaker 2: So some push back to the announcement that we're telling

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Speaker 2: you about this time yesterday over the so called citizens arrest. Basically,

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Speaker 2: any one of us will be able to stop arrest

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Speaker 2: or restrain those who we see wandering off with the

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Speaker 2: free beer or television or backing the demio through a

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Speaker 2: front door. Some we're Police Association President Chris car Hills

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Speaker 2: with us, Chris, morning to you make are we sitting

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Speaker 2: ourselves on fire needlessly? Here? The reality is this, You

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Speaker 2: and I aren't going to do this. It's really for

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Speaker 2: security guards, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Well, well, I mean look at Deeries, for instance. They

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Speaker 21: don't have security guards. They have shopkeepers and family people,

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Speaker 21: and there's going to be an expectation that they do,

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Speaker 21: especially if they're working for some boss who thinks they

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Speaker 21: should do it. But even security guards. You look at

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Speaker 21: some of these security guards, they're not really highly trained.

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Speaker 21: They're not highly equipped to think of police officers. You know,

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Speaker 21: we've got all the equipment and all the try still

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Speaker 21: had assaulted every day, some really seriously. So I don't

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Speaker 21: mean to be the humbug. I get why people think

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Speaker 21: on the facebook's good idea, but when you peel it back,

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Speaker 21: it's prutty, risky stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the critical thing you're missing here is you

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Speaker 2: don't have to do anything about it. If you don't

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Speaker 2: feel equipped or trained, or you're behind the counter at

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Speaker 2: the dairy and you're scared for your life, you don't

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Speaker 2: need to do anything, are you. It's not forcing you

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Speaker 2: to do something, it's just giving you the option.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: I think it's easy to say that. But if people

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Speaker 21: make decisions that without all your full facts in front

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Speaker 21: of them, and then things turned to pass, the mean

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Speaker 21: you might think you're dealing with a fourteen year old

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Speaker 21: choplift or you I'm going to deal with him suddenly

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Speaker 21: he's got two mates, or suddenly pulls a knife. These

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Speaker 21: sorts of things just escalate. That happens.

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Speaker 2: Now, what about that? What about the guy's been in

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Speaker 2: the news. The poor bugger in the news who was

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Speaker 2: in the jewelry shop and went after the person without

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Speaker 2: the law got a hammer through his head. Now, if

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Speaker 2: that had happened post the law, you'd be going, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, look at the law. It's a disaster. And

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Speaker 2: yet it happened anyway.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, and that's why it looks good on the face

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Speaker 21: of it, because we all get frustrated watching these people

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Speaker 21: walk out the door. But the challenges is it worth

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Speaker 21: the risk. I can give you the examples where people

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Speaker 21: have been seriously injured or even killed because they thought

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Speaker 21: it was a good idea to try and hold an

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Speaker 21: offend into account at the time.

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Speaker 2: But if they did, then if they did it, then

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Speaker 2: the law is not going to make any difference, is it.

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Speaker 21: Well, well, the law will encourage more people to do it.

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Speaker 21: I think that's my real concern. But people will think

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Speaker 21: this is what they should do, and it's not just

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Speaker 21: retail unless they change the law completely. It's just lowering

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Speaker 21: the offense. So you're going to get people doing it

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Speaker 21: with boy racers who really drive people nuts. Well, that's

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Speaker 21: another you know, people with cars. It's just another risk.

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Speaker 21: I just don't think it's been thought through the other thing,

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Speaker 21: like is trying to get the balance of a rockery.

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Speaker 21: What's reasonable is a real legal issue. I mean, we

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Speaker 21: have police officers charged renually with assault because the people

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Speaker 21: think it's been an unreasonable use of force. Don't have

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Speaker 21: a public any that, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the difference from there. Think you've probably got a

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Speaker 2: very good point there. Actually, Chris will be interested to

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Speaker 2: see what they come up with. Appreciate your time as always,

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Speaker 2: Chris car Hill, Police Association President, get your feedback. Shortly

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Speaker 2: ten past seven s from China. Foreign Minister Winston Peters,

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Speaker 2: of course, meeting his counterpart overnight, had a word about

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Speaker 2: the ships in this part of the world. Our geopolitical

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Speaker 2: analyst Jeffrey Miller's back. Well, this's Jeffrey. Very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: I read the communicator. They did the usual diplomatic dance,

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Speaker 2: didn't they at the end of the day, am I right?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw Seymour, yesterday's Deputy Prime minister.

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Speaker 2: He's been briefed on what we did. Militarily speaking, it's

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Speaker 2: the Australians who appear to be sleep at the wheel.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, there's an awful lot going on. Mike, I think

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Speaker 11: when you look at mister Winston Peter's statements after this

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Speaker 11: meeting and reading between the lines, it looks like it

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Speaker 11: was a pretty tough conversation, a pretty robust exchange of

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Speaker 11: views with one ye and Winston Peters has said it

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Speaker 11: was a failure that the Chinese did not give more

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Speaker 11: notice to New Zealand. So it sounds like it was a,

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Speaker 11: as I say, a pretty tough encounter.

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Speaker 2: Which is all we can say. And if they want

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Speaker 2: to do it, they'll do it because there's no international

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Speaker 2: laws being broken and they're an international waters. Is this,

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Speaker 2: in your view, a deterioration of relations or the new normal?

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Speaker 11: A great It is a difficult situation to be in,

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Speaker 11: and it's one I don't think News even wanted to

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Speaker 11: be and I don't think necessarily China necessarily wanted the

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Speaker 11: relationship to be at this point right now. That said,

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Speaker 11: I think it is helpful to have these robust discussions.

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Speaker 11: I think we're all better off when there is more dialogue,

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Speaker 11: and certainly the statements that came out and the characterizations

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Speaker 11: from Chinese state media as well, emphasize the need for

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Speaker 11: further dialogue in the future. Remember this visit by Winston

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Speaker 11: Peters to Beijing was also a set up visit for

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Speaker 11: Christopher Luxin to into Beijing later this year, and I

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Speaker 11: think that would be very welcome. We need more diplomacy,

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Speaker 11: more de escalation, more dialogue.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you. More nice to have you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Jeffrey Miller, geopolitical analyst. It's twelve minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: asking Mike, why do all of these organizations talk like

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Speaker 2: the new citizens' wrest law means you have to detain

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Speaker 2: all criminals simply giving you the option. I couldn't agree

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Speaker 2: with you. I mean, it's like we went nuts yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I think, Mike, we're just listening to the wrong people.

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Speaker 2: It's just proof you can always find somebody whinging about something.

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Speaker 2: I think there's something in that morning, Mike. Why does it?

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Speaker 2: Where does it say in the new bill that shopkeepers

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Speaker 2: and staff must confront and detain shoplifters? I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't say anything. I take the point around reasonable force,

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Speaker 2: but there's lots of interpretation around the law where police

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Speaker 2: have to make decisions as to whether delay charges or not.

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Speaker 2: So there's nothing new on this, Mike, struggling with the

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Speaker 2: resistance to the new citizens arrest. I recall firms providing

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Speaker 2: security to supermarkets, bemoaning the fact they had no legal

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Speaker 2: rights to restrain Exactly. I've got more on this before

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Speaker 2: seven thirty. But that's exactly the point. The reality is

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Speaker 2: you and I aren't going to do anything about this.

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Speaker 2: It's for security guards. Mike. You say New Zealand's winging

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Speaker 2: as usual. It isn't New Zealand. It's the negative nelly

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Speaker 2: media who put a negative lens across everything. I got

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Speaker 2: that impression yesterday. There is a default position in some

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Speaker 2: aspects of the media at the moment, who whatever the

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Speaker 2: announcement is, it's their first port of callers. Who can

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Speaker 2: we find to winge about this? And off they go,

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Speaker 2: And that's why they've got so many problems. Thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: A'd be you're hot on this, Mike. If I owned

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Speaker 2: a security firm, I'd be training my team and gearing

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Speaker 2: them up for the hard work ahead required. Now the

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Speaker 2: little criminals will think twice about their intended consequences. I

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Speaker 2: tend to agree. I've got more to say on this

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Speaker 2: in just a couple of moments, Mike, Do these retailers

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Speaker 2: want to be part of the solution or not. They

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Speaker 2: just need to contract decent security guards, properly trained, instead

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Speaker 2: of the idiots wandering around looking at their phones all day. Mike,

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Speaker 2: was that the same Chris negative Nelly who poo pooed

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Speaker 2: banning gang patches. But they've got to be very careful.

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Speaker 2: The police union, of course, on what you know, they've

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Speaker 2: got to be on the right side of this because

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Speaker 2: most of the election was fought on the economy and

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Speaker 2: crime and we wanted something done, and now that something's

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Speaker 2: getting done, we're moaning. Perhaps the police, Mike, are concerned

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Speaker 2: about actually having to turn up to petty crime. Easy

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Speaker 2: to complain, Mike, but at least use this government is

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Speaker 2: trying to do something. I would love to hear the

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Speaker 2: alternative with the alternative, of course, was your demio three

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Speaker 2: walls and the endless stories about ram rates. Now other

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Speaker 2: matters seventeen pass good news from tourism spending is almost

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Speaker 2: back to what it was pre nineteen sixteen point nine

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Speaker 2: billion dollars in the year to March total. If you

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Speaker 2: added all up, it's up fourteen point six percent to

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Speaker 2: forty four and a half billion dollars, a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Tourism New Zealand boss Renee demoshes back with us. Rene,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 22: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: So we don't need the people, We just need their wallets.

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Speaker 2: That's what this boils down to. Is it quality not quantity?

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Speaker 23: Well, we want both, Mike.

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Speaker 22: Look, I think there's plenty of capacity and we actually

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Speaker 22: want both. But it is a good news story. You know,

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Speaker 22: those are that's a pretty big growth number. Six billion

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Speaker 22: dollars of growth in tourism spend in the year to march.

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Speaker 22: You know, that's a significant uplift from a major expert.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear you say plenty of capacity because

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Speaker 2: I was watching the news last night and they managed

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Speaker 2: to find yet another moner who was saying that, you know,

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Speaker 2: the infrastructure can't cope and it's all too busy, and

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Speaker 2: it's is it or not.

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Speaker 22: Well, Look, I think it's important we've got to promote

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Speaker 22: New Zealand year round. But if you think about it,

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Speaker 22: as we talked about previously, we're at about eighty five

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Speaker 22: percent of the visitor numbers that we were pre COVID,

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Speaker 22: so that so there's definitely plenty of capacity, and especially

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Speaker 22: when you look at year round, you know, we still

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Speaker 22: have quite a lot of people that come in the

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Speaker 22: summer months. How do we also encourage people. It's a

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Speaker 22: big focus of ours of people to come in between

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Speaker 22: March and November and not just between December and.

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Speaker 2: February shoulder seasons. We're now back to the second largest exporter.

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Speaker 2: And know this is tourism. How far short of dairy

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Speaker 2: are we because once upon a time you guys were

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Speaker 2: neck and neck and occasionally beat them.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean it's usually one of one or the

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Speaker 22: other that's number one or two. It's driven a little

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Speaker 22: bit by commodity pricing of the area. That can be

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Speaker 22: a fluctuator and in our case, the recovery of tourism.

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Speaker 22: I don't know exactly how short we are, but i'd

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Speaker 22: say that at six billion growth a year on year,

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Speaker 22: we're accelerating fast. So you know, it's great to be

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Speaker 22: back to number two tourism export. I think we'll continue

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Speaker 22: to see strong on growth in the sector for the

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Speaker 22: year ahead.

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Speaker 24: I heard somebody sorry, carry on and that's really important

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Speaker 24: because what the numbers also show is actually in that

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Speaker 24: same period, domestic has been declined by two and a

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Speaker 24: half percent, So it's really important that international tourism is there.

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Speaker 22: Really Bolses the economy.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. I heard somebody earlier on in the

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Speaker 2: station suggesting, we're expensive.

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Speaker 3: How is it?

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Speaker 2: How can we be expensive when I hand over fifty

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Speaker 2: five US cents for a dollar and forty five p

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Speaker 2: for a dollar.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, Look, the exchange rate out of the US certainly helps.

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Speaker 22: But look, New Zealand is by no means a cheap destination.

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Speaker 22: You know, you have to travel quite a long way

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Speaker 22: for most of the world, you have to take quite

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Speaker 22: a long time, and you do have to spend quite

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Speaker 22: a lot of money. So we're a premium destination. I

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Speaker 22: don't think we're cheap, but you know, having a good

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Speaker 22: foreign exchange rate with the US dollar and with a

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Speaker 22: pound that certainly helps because it just lowers the barrier.

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Speaker 2: Very good to be able to have a compositive conversation

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Speaker 2: about tourism. Rene, appreciate your time. Tourism New Zealand CEO.

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Speaker 2: The money is flying Americans really has become a real thing,

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Speaker 2: Thank the good Lord, because the Chinese aren't coming back

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Speaker 2: and we've got the visa issue, and they travel seemingly domestically,

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Speaker 2: and if it's not literally domestically, it's within the immediate region.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that they're ever necessarily coming back

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Speaker 2: in the numbers they were once coming back, and so

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Speaker 2: it's encouraging to see tourism as is up and running

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Speaker 2: to a degree anyway, financially speaking, now back to this

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Speaker 2: business of arresting people in a moment seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: When we talk about the QWI dream, many would agree

884
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Speaker 2: owning a home is a big part of that. SBS

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Speaker 2: Bank they've been helping Kiwis achieve that particular dream for

886
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five years now. Are so good

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Speaker 2: at it? Are SBS They've been judged Canstar's best bank

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Speaker 2: for first home buyers not once, not twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. So if you're looking

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Speaker 2: to buy your first time or have first home buyers

891
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Speaker 2: in your life, whether it's the kids of the grandkids,

892
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Speaker 2: SBS Bank should be that first part of court. So

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Speaker 2: what makes them so good, Well, their product got the

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Speaker 2: SBS First Home Combo, which has got some very impressive

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Speaker 2: inclusions like a heavily discounted interest rate, get a cash

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Speaker 2: back offer, contribution towards SBS insurance, home policies, money back

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Speaker 2: into an SBS Wealth, Saber Wealth Keiwi, Saber, a lot

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Speaker 2: of savings there for first home buias and of course

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Speaker 2: the first home lending. An eligibility criteria applies. So for

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Speaker 2: all you need to know about SBS Bank's terms, fiesian charges,

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Speaker 2: you go to the website. So if you're ready to

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Speaker 2: follow those awards are to a great home loan, you

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Speaker 2: search for SBS Bank. It is the bank with heart

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Speaker 2: Hosking seven twenty three. The trick, and we fail at

905
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Speaker 2: virtually every time, is to not get bogged down in

906
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Speaker 2: the MINUTII. There are not prizes for coming up with

907
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Speaker 2: dumb scenarios to try and catch the idea out amending

908
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: the law to allow greater use of locals to grab

909
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: a scumbag and hold them till the coppers arise is

910
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: a good and it's a welcome idea and that the

911
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: government are making tangible and positive progress if you think

912
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Speaker 2: about it anywhere at all. It's on the crime front,

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Speaker 2: More people are in jail, more people are being rounded up,

914
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Speaker 2: more of us feel safe, the police feel better about

915
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Speaker 2: doing their job or being allowed to do their job,

916
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Speaker 2: and the citizens' arrest news is merely adding to that progress.

917
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Speaker 2: Coming up with scenarios about criminals bringing bigger weapons to

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Speaker 2: robberies won't happen the same way. We haven't seen the

919
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Speaker 2: gangs give the boot to the coppers over patches at

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's press conference and I urge you to

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Speaker 2: watch it. At the Prime Minister's press conference this week

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Speaker 2: with Goldsmith, Mitchell and the Commissioner Chambers, they were asked

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Speaker 2: about there being more gang members inference being the laws

924
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Speaker 2: failing the more gang members, Yes, said Chambers. Police Commissioner Chambers.

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Speaker 2: There are more gang members because we're putting more groups

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Speaker 2: on the register and the arrests are not going up

927
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Speaker 2: commensurately because gangs aren't flouting the law and retail thugs

928
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Speaker 2: are not going to flout this one either. Thugs are

929
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: cowards and they're opportunists. They try it on because they

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Speaker 2: know they can. The moment they know a guard in

931
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Speaker 2: a supermarket can jump on top of them, they're not

932
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Speaker 2: going to bother the same way they tried to get

933
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Speaker 2: work when the traffic light system came in for the

934
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Speaker 2: job seeker. Bottom feeders are essentially lazy. If it's easy,

935
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Speaker 2: they'll abuse it, or they'll nick it, crack down, games up,

936
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Speaker 2: they will give up. This sort of thing should be welcome.

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Speaker 2: This is what we wanted. See, memories can't be so

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Speaker 2: short that we have forgotten the madness that filled our

939
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Speaker 2: streets just a year or so back. The ram raids,

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Speaker 2: the gangs that block the road with their intimidation, the

941
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Speaker 2: non existent police to round them up, the endless ankle

942
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Speaker 2: braceletters who were reoffending. We hated that, We got furious

943
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: at that. A year and a half later, the changes happen.

944
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Speaker 2: The statistics have turned. Let's not get bogged down in

945
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Speaker 2: a petty game of but what if us get Morning Mike?

946
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Speaker 2: Are un a security business for twenty five years. Industry

947
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Speaker 2: has the capability to provide well trained staff, and the

948
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Speaker 2: Security Association has already got a professional trainer development a

949
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Speaker 2: five day course that would provide the skill set required

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Speaker 2: for detention. However, big retailers would actually have to pay

951
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Speaker 2: for the skill set instead of going for the cheapest

952
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Speaker 2: price and then complaining to get Hopeles stuff. Couldn't agree

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Speaker 2: with you more? Very good text. Thank you for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very interesting watching David Seymore yesterday's Deputy Prime Minister. What

955
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Speaker 2: a low level affair that was. If you look at

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Speaker 2: the pictures. I don't know where he was. He was

957
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Speaker 2: in Auckland, but if you look at the pictures, he

958
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Speaker 2: was next to some sort of strange it could have

959
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Speaker 2: been a tarper cloth for all I know. In the

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Speaker 2: background there was a blank wall where something once hung

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Speaker 2: which no longer did, so there's sort of like a

962
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Speaker 2: couple of stickers there and he's standing in front of

963
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Speaker 2: a media assembly which I think amounted to maybe three people.

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Speaker 2: And then he said any questions, and there were a

965
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Speaker 2: couple of lame questions. After about three and a half minutes.

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Speaker 2: That was that. So the Prime ministerial update. But what

967
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Speaker 2: he said was important and what he said I wish

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Speaker 2: he could have given more details, but he can't. He's

969
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Speaker 2: been briefed about something that's happened with the Chinese as

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Speaker 2: regards the Tasman Sea, the role of our military and

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Speaker 2: the Australian military. Who knew what when? And he said, basically,

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Speaker 2: if you knew what I knew about what we'd done,

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Speaker 2: you'd be really proud and impressed of what we're up to.

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Speaker 2: So I longed to know, but obviously we can't. What

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Speaker 2: I did watch also yesterday was a Senate's Senate Committee

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Speaker 2: Estimates Committee yesterday in Australia where the Australian Navy fronted

977
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Speaker 2: up and they looked like a bunch of dumpty doos.

978
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Speaker 2: They didn't have the slightest idea what was going on,

979
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Speaker 2: and it was us that was informing them, and they

980
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Speaker 2: couldn't explain how all of that happened. So the other

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Speaker 2: ones were the problem, seemingly not us, right, the power

982
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Speaker 2: industry winter not going to have enough power, going to

983
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Speaker 2: be touch and go yet again? How come more on

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Speaker 2: this shortly.

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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts,

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News togs had been.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of rodden about an hour's time, so,

989
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: of course the big announcement and Starmer's on his way

990
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Speaker 2: to Washington to meet Trump. Of course Macron this week

991
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Speaker 2: as well as Starmer, but the announcement came yesterday and

992
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Speaker 2: he did it deliberately. Obviously he's going to increase the

993
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Speaker 2: amount of defense spending and doing that, he's cutting AID

994
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Speaker 2: spending and everyone's gone, oh my god, Aid because of

995
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Speaker 2: course USAID is being pulled apart as we speak by Doge. Anyway,

996
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Speaker 2: it's very similar in Britain as it is to America.

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Speaker 2: Two thirds of adults this is a poll. This is

998
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Speaker 2: interesting because of course what you'll see on the news.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not anti AID or pro AD. I'm just

1000
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Speaker 2: giving you the insight as to how people see it

1001
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Speaker 2: as far as AID is concerned. When you hear on

1002
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Speaker 2: the newsuals, hear every AID agency in the world, and

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Speaker 2: of course there are far too many of them, and

1004
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Speaker 2: the duplication of services, not to mention the administrative administrative

1005
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Speaker 2: costs is something well worth looking into. But two thirds

1006
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Speaker 2: about aults in Britain believe AID spending is too high.

1007
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Speaker 2: So in fact, what Starmer did yesterday, you could argue politically,

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Speaker 2: is popular. Fourteen percent think the same about defense, so

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Speaker 2: in other words, most people in Britain think you should

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Speaker 2: spend more on defense and you should spend less on aid. Anyway,

1011
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: the study where did the AID money go? And you've

1012
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Speaker 2: heard the doze stories will in Britain is a study

1013
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Speaker 2: of the health of prawns in Bangladesh some of their

1014
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Speaker 2: aid money study of Health of prawns and Bangladesh. There

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Speaker 2: is a deal to fund prison transport in Albania using

1016
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Speaker 2: a Porsche dealerans to support accountability and inclusion in the

1017
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Speaker 2: Democratic Republic of the Congo. So you can see there

1018
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Speaker 2: might be just a little bit of trimming needed doing.

1019
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Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away from eight gets you to the

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Speaker 2: Gulf in Queen's Town tee off today and to our

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Speaker 2: friend Andrew Webster in Las Vegas as the Warriors kickoff

1022
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Speaker 2: for this coming weekend for the season. Now more insights

1023
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Speaker 2: into our power industries we had towards winter. Meridian reported

1024
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Speaker 2: in that loss of one hundred and twenty one million

1025
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Speaker 2: dollars yesterday. Is that bad? Yes? It is. Meridian chief

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Speaker 2: financial Officer and incoming CEO, Mike Rhones with us on

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Speaker 2: all of this. Mike, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 23: Hey morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: This line you ran yesterday, you took a hit for

1030
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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Does that spin or reel?

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00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 23: It's real. Last year last year was tough, largely because

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Speaker 23: it didn't rain, but we also had an unexpected, unprecedented

1034
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Speaker 23: shortage of gas at the same time, so we had

1035
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Speaker 23: to take two hundred million dollars of cover that we

1036
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Speaker 23: didn't expect we'd need to keep.

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Speaker 2: The lights on.

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Speaker 23: So you know, what we were trying to say is

1039
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Speaker 23: we put some curious apply first and we do it again.

1040
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Speaker 23: I mean, it's part of the it's part of the

1041
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Speaker 23: territory for US. Droughts, managing droughts part of the territory.

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Speaker 23: But you know, being a business in the country is

1043
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Speaker 23: when things get tough, our job is to help manage

1044
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Speaker 23: those conditions. So that's what we did.

1045
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Speaker 2: Would you so manage the conditions you count If you

1046
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: haven't got any gas, you haven't got any rain, there's

1047
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it. You lose money. Is

1048
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: your mix all wrong and you're fixing your mix?

1049
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Speaker 23: Well, I think that was the problem, that that was unexpected.

1050
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Speaker 23: The loss of gas was, you know, something we didn't expect,

1051
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Speaker 23: and I think that is the big challenge we you know,

1052
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Speaker 23: we rely on gas, we rely on water, but you know,

1053
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Speaker 23: it's the loss of gas that we think is a

1054
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Speaker 23: potential structural issue for the country, not just the electricity sector,

1055
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Speaker 23: and we think it needs a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: So didn't you. I mean, I don't know what you

1057
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Speaker 2: were doing when Jacinda was running the class, But once

1058
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Speaker 2: you wandered around and said we're not going to look

1059
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Speaker 2: for oil gas anymore, did know and to mercury go

1060
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Speaker 2: Maridian rather go that might affect us.

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Speaker 23: We've always said that, you know, alc tricity sector, while

1062
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Speaker 23: we can become more renewable over time, that we're going

1063
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Speaker 23: to need gas is a transition fuel. So I think

1064
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Speaker 23: that's the challenge that we found last year is that

1065
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Speaker 23: transition fuel has got its own challenges. And you know,

1066
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Speaker 23: we thought it was going to be affordable. We found

1067
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Speaker 23: it was unaffordable. It shows through in our result. And

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Speaker 23: so now we're scrambling, you know, where we thought we

1069
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Speaker 23: were going to rely on it as a country, we're

1070
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Speaker 23: scrambling to find or turn its and so we're going

1071
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Speaker 23: back to you know, things that have been dust or

1072
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Speaker 23: were dusting things off that been looked at ten fifteen

1073
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Speaker 23: years ago. And you know, one of the things we

1074
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Speaker 23: found is that there's a bunch of contingent hydro.

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Speaker 25: Storage that sits out there.

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Speaker 23: So it's about twenty percent of New Zealand's hydro storage

1077
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Speaker 23: sits there for these sorts of conditions that doesn't get

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Speaker 23: touch and we're talking to regulators, you know, our stakeholders

1079
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 23: Transpower to see whether we can't open that up to

1080
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 23: try and bring energy prices down and deal with the

1081
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 23: fact that, you know, we don't have the gas supply

1082
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 23: that we thought.

1083
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they, Why wouldn't they This is interesting, Why

1084
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't they do that? Why would they let it spike

1085
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: last one to do eight hundred bucks and still not

1086
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: let get you access to that?

1087
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 23: Yeah, well, I mean it's I might not be the

1088
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 23: right person to ask, Michael.

1089
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: Probably Power company.

1090
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 23: Yeah, well, we think it's a no brainer. So, you know,

1091
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 23: we think it'll bring electricity prices down and it'll deal

1092
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 23: with the fact that we've got some challenges in the

1093
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 23: gas industry. So we think it's exactly what we need.

1094
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 23: And you're wearing a conversation with them to try and

1095
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 23: do exactly that. Let's not wait for those same conditions

1096
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 23: to unfold. Let's open that at hydro storage up so

1097
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 23: that we can use it.

1098
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: It has it has. Last year's disaster of the season

1099
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: coalesced the industry in general on the broad idea that

1100
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: we need to do better than we are.

1101
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean there's a massive amount of investment that's

1102
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 23: going on. You know the challenge that we've got, so

1103
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 23: you know, we're going to invest embarks by the end

1104
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 23: of this calendar year. You've heard others talk to the

1105
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 23: same thing, and that investment's going in. But the challenge

1106
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 23: we've got is it takes any calend intensive industry, it

1107
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 23: takes a couple of years for that investment to come

1108
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 23: to fruition. You know, we're not going to have those

1109
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 23: power stations producing energy for a couple of years, So

1110
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 23: it's what do we do in the next couple of years.

1111
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 23: Given we found that we're not going to rely on gas.

1112
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: And we're doing in cold and stuff like that. Can

1113
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: you reassure me that all of this investment and renewables

1114
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: is when it comes online. That's it. We've done. We've

1115
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: sorted our problem out and we're not going to have

1116
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: the same tedious conversation leading into every winter that we

1117
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: don't have enough power.

1118
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 23: Yeah. I mean, that's the great news is I can't

1119
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 23: show is once fact comes on board, as it allows

1120
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 23: us to use the hydro storage. You know, New Zealand's

1121
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 23: got a bounty of hydro energy that other countries would love.

1122
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 23: And once we've invested in those renewables, we can sort

1123
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 23: our hydro storage out. We can drive competitive advantage into

1124
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 23: this economy that's durable good because other countries don't have

1125
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 23: what we've got.

1126
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: And that includes data centers and stuff like that.

1127
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 23: Yeah, if we can invest in more, you know, renewable technologies,

1128
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 23: we can invite people to come to the country and

1129
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 23: do their business here. And that's I mean, that's basically

1130
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 23: the plan is. We've got a bounty of renewable energy,

1131
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 23: we've got to get those investments in place, and then

1132
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 23: we've got a power system that other people around the

1133
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 23: globe will look at with envy because they can't replicate.

1134
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 25: What we've got.

1135
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,479
Speaker 23: So we're hopeful of attracting, you know, whether it's data

1136
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 23: centers or anybody.

1137
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 25: We'd love them to well.

1138
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope.

1139
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 25: You're right.

1140
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: I've got a personal obsession with nuclear and there's a

1141
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: lot of people go nuclear, and you can do it

1142
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: a lot more efficiently and in a smaller capacity and

1143
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: way than you used to be able to do. You

1144
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: ever see the day that that could even be a

1145
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: conversation in this country of where just that that ship sailed.

1146
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 23: I think it's a tough one, Mike, I do. I

1147
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 23: think it takes so long introduce the regulatory settings and

1148
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 23: then invest, and so I think, you know, we're better

1149
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 23: relying on the resources that we've got, and you know,

1150
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 23: we need to open up this conversation on hydro storage.

1151
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 23: It's the thing we've got as a country that other

1152
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 23: people don't like. We have it in space. You know,

1153
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 23: we've got a lot of water that flows.

1154
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: I think this has been used to most people. I

1155
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: followed this industry, I would argue reasonably closely. I didn't

1156
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 2: know that. I didn't know that transpower will holding it back.

1157
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: And there's a scandal in that, and I don't understand

1158
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: why there's a scandal, and I don't understand why there's

1159
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: a Minister of Energy that would be overseeing the scandal

1160
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: at a point of eight hundred dollars for a spot

1161
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: price and all the nonsense we went through last winter

1162
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: and not have done something about that. If you've got

1163
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: the water and all you can need is access, why

1164
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: don't we have I mean, how hard can it be?

1165
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 23: Yeah, we think everyone's port Mike. It's just working through

1166
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 23: you know it's working through the issues skined unlocked.

1167
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 25: So yeah, well, good luck with it, but.

1168
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: Good luck with it. Well, we'll follow up. Who's the

1169
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 2: Minister of energy? Off the top of my head, give

1170
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: it to me now, actually ring them up? Did you

1171
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: know about that? I didn't know about that. I'm disappointed

1172
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: in myself that I didn't know about that. But if

1173
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: we've got all that, and they'll say arts for reserves

1174
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: for a really difficult day, they couldn't say it's for

1175
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: a rainy day, because that's exactly the sort of day

1176
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: they'd want. Come on, what Simon Watts? Simon, I've got

1177
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: more water than I need. What's what's great? Name from

1178
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 2: n Minister of Energy? Yeah, what's he doing? We're gonna

1179
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: get him on the program fourteenth to wade the.

1180
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

1181
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:50,640
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1182
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: It'd be Mike ilib next to Lake Dunstan were lucky you.

1183
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: There are strict rules about dropping the lake level, so

1184
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: basically the whole lake behind the Clyde down storage not

1185
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 2: to be used. Well, of course there are rules. What's

1186
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: what We've just discovered one thing this country does really well.

1187
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: If you looked at the productivity of making rules. The

1188
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: making rules people would be fantastically productive because that's what

1189
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: they do. And here's another reality check for your BP.

1190
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: They've announced globally overnight they're going to slash its renewable

1191
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: energy investments and focus on increasing oil and gas production. Well,

1192
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: why would that we because the shareholders had a look

1193
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: at the price, which is only up thirty six percent

1194
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 2: this year, Shells up eighty two, Exon's up one hundred

1195
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: and sixty, and they've gone, how come these guys are

1196
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: doing so well and new clowns aren't. They went, well,

1197
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: because we wanted to save the planet. They go, yeah,

1198
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: but there's no returns in that, mate. So anyway, reality

1199
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: not that I don't want to save the planet, don't

1200
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: get me wrong on that. But at the end of

1201
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: the day, what I'm really really keen on is having

1202
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: lights in the lounge. Call me, call me old fashioned.

1203
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: By the way, I've got scandal around the committee representative

1204
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: paid while not showing up to meetings for two years

1205
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: by councils, and this should be getting more coverage as well.

1206
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 2: The community and run Unger representatives paid four thousand dollars

1207
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: a year to be on the Canterbury Water Zone Committee.

1208
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of power, Deputy chair receives five thousand. Yeer person

1209
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: received six thousand twenty three and twenty four. Twenty twenty three,

1210
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, there were fourteen meetings of the Ashburton

1211
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: Water Zone Committee. Can you believe there's even a thing?

1212
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: What did you do? I'll tell you what. I'm on

1213
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: the ash Bourton I'm on the Ashburton Water Zone Committee.

1214
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 2: Or are you? Did you turn up?

1215
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 13: No?

1216
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: But I got paid anyway, I'm going to tell you

1217
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: what happened, how much they got, how many meetings they

1218
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: turned up to and how many they didn't. Later on

1219
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: got to go to the golf. In the moment though

1220
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: night away of.

1221
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,360
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1222
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: had been.

1223
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: Looked away from a New Zealand Open Time teeing off

1224
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: at Millbrook today, one hundred and fourth time they've done this.

1225
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: Tournament director Michael Glading's Wather's Michael morning, Am I give

1226
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: me the weather and track for the four days because

1227
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: she can be beautiful and she can blow like buggery?

1228
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: What are we expecting?

1229
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 25: I think it's my key. They just give you two

1230
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 25: days because they're never right.

1231
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 20: After two days, So the weekend not looking quite so sharp,

1232
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 20: but the next two days it's just fabulous, which is

1233
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 20: a great way for us to get started, especially with

1234
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 20: such a big field.

1235
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 25: Getting everybody through in good weather is just crucial.

1236
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: So when you say a big field, this pro amateur

1237
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: mix of yours, would you argue it's working as a thing?

1238
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 20: I undoubtedly working as a thing.

1239
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 25: There's no question that's working.

1240
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 20: It's one of the one of the many reasons why

1241
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 20: I think we've been able to operate with an eight

1242
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 20: million dollar budget. You know, we bring in one hundred

1243
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 20: and fifty six amaches alongside one hundred and fifty six pros.

1244
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 20: It's a significant amount of money that we generate through

1245
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 20: our amateur revenue. So and of course also what we

1246
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 20: deliver is try and make sure they want to come

1247
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 20: back and so far touch what they have.

1248
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a tournament in the grand scheme of things,

1249
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of golf and there's a lot of

1250
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: sport out there these days. How does it attract people? Still?

1251
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: Is it attracting people?

1252
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 20: You know what, Mike, The number one attraction is Queen's

1253
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 20: Down a let's say to me personally, But it's definitely not.

1254
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 25: It's just Queen's Down.

1255
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 20: Queenstown such an attraction, and you know, I work hard

1256
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 20: to get some of the pros to come here, and

1257
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 20: if you get them here once, they are.

1258
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 25: Hooked because they just love it. And as you were,

1259
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 25: it's the air, as the people, as the vistas, it's

1260
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 25: just everything about Queenstown, and people just love it.

1261
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 20: You can see their emergless when they when they sort

1262
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 20: of get out of the taxi when they arrive.

1263
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's a beautiful place. Danny Lee, Are we

1264
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: making too much of him? I mean, yes, he should

1265
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: have been here. He is here now. That's good, isn't it.

1266
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 20: It's absolutely fantastic. And he's come here with a really

1267
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 20: great attitude and I'm just alighted.

1268
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 25: But he's come back. You know, You're right.

1269
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 20: He's been to some degree a bit of before it

1270
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 20: for some time.

1271
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 25: And I think he's really chaffy.

1272
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 20: He says, he said he can't walk anywhere anywhere without

1273
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 20: thirty people saying all those to him.

1274
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 25: And I think he's really enjoying that, which is fabulous.

1275
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: And what about our old mate Helca. I mean, given

1276
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: what he's up to these days. You'd have to be

1277
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: looking at him, wouldn't you.

1278
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd never count him out.

1279
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 20: I mean he would. Brendan Jones won this torn at

1280
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 20: age forty eight two years ago, so there's no way

1281
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 20: that that somebody of that advantage is not capable of

1282
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 20: winning it, as Steve certainly is, and I think he's just.

1283
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: Quietly confident this year.

1284
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 25: He came in a few days earlier.

1285
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 20: In previous years he's sort of just flown and you know,

1286
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 20: dusted off the clubs and now he.

1287
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 25: Goes because he does play all over the world, as.

1288
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 20: You know, on Champions Tour, but this is really I

1289
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 20: see him in a bit of it's certainly had a

1290
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 20: bit of health condition last year he picked up the

1291
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Speaker 20: cold and he's pretty damn miserable. So I think it's

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Speaker 20: christ There would be a dream result to have Steve

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Speaker 20: run up there.

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Speaker 3: At the top.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic go well with Michael Gladding, who's the new Zealand

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Speaker 2: Open tournament director and Mike have been walking around, been

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Speaker 2: walking the dog around Millbrook for the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: It's looking picture perfect Millbrook. I remember going at the

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Speaker 2: very beginning of Millbrook when they it was just really

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Speaker 2: an idea and not a lot more. And I thought,

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Speaker 2: I wonder what this is going to be, and what

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Speaker 2: it's turned out to be is absolutely fantastic. It's a

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Speaker 2: duel in the New Zealand Sporting Crown. Andrew Webster of

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00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 2: the Warriors in Vegas. Yes, this is indeed our year

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Speaker 2: and he'll tell us why shortly.

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Speaker 1: The news again, News Vekers, the mic Hosking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the range rovervi La designed to intrigue and use talks

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Speaker 1: dead be.

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Speaker 2: It a seven past eight. You know what we do

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Speaker 2: this time of year. We remind you the Warriors kick

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Speaker 2: off as close. This year it's in Vegas, which may

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01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: or may not be a good thing. It's against the

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Speaker 2: baseball bat wielding Raiders. So how they going? Coach Andrew

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Speaker 2: Webster is with us, goimonning morning.

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Speaker 15: How are you look?

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Speaker 2: I'm fantastic Vegas. Talk to me Vegas so far? How

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01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: much work, how much play?

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Speaker 15: We landed and we're very social. For the first two

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01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 15: days the players knuckled straight down, got in the training.

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Speaker 15: Ever since we've trained really hard and really well. I

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01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 15: think the Vegas strips out of their system now and

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01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 15: everyone's so excited looking forward to to chasing two points.

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01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: What about the some jet lag time zones? All of

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: that is that under control the jet lag.

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Speaker 15: Myself, I'm not as good as I thought I would be,

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 15: but yeah, getting there with it, definitely getting there. The

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Speaker 15: players obviously got a really good routine, strict routine, so

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Speaker 15: they're they're finding a lot bad. I thought today they

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Speaker 15: had a lot of bounce about their training. So that's

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Speaker 15: always exciting when when you know they're training well. But yeah,

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01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 15: jet lag has been It's not a long time difference,

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Speaker 15: but it's enough to throw you out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And the hype and the noise. Have you got a

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01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: sense on the ground yet? I mean, is Vegas genuinely

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01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: interested in what the NRL are trying to do.

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Speaker 15: It's hard to e gauge it. Wing our pitches are

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01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 15: not ours in myself with the boys and the NRL

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 15: pictures around the around the city, which is cool to see.

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Speaker 15: It's pretty amazing that they're going to be headlining one

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 15: of the acts this week. But I think when we

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 15: get close to it, we've got a big street parade

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01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 15: with on Thursday night in the old Las Vegas town

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01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 15: and I think apparently that thing you really get to

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01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 15: feel at it's rugby league fever and a lot more

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01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 15: promotions leading up to the first game, I mean up

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01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 15: to the weekend, so I think we'll feel that more

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,959
Speaker 15: then at that stake.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you go back a bit in the original

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Speaker 2: news and the Warriors being part of this, so the

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01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: NRL they want to attack the American market. I'm sure

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01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: it's all good for the NRL, but as a coach

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: of a team that wants to win a game of football,

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01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: is it a potential distraction.

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Speaker 15: I definitely found out whether we could be going. I

1355
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 15: wasn't interested, but obviously not being selfish, and start realizing

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Speaker 15: how good this is for our brand to put it

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Speaker 15: on the world stage. I think it's an amazing opportunity

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Speaker 15: for our club, but just can't be at the expense

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Speaker 15: of two points. And then I started thinking, this is

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Speaker 15: a really big challenge for our boys to be able

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Speaker 15: to enjoy the experience and take it all in, make

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Speaker 15: sure they're ready to go on the weekend, and so

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Speaker 15: far so their handle were challenge really well, but as

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01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 15: always you are, you won't know until you get punched

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Speaker 15: in the face and the game day. But at the

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Speaker 15: stage they handled it really well, what.

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Speaker 2: About those little thing size of the field, shape of

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Speaker 2: the field, you know, the American stadium, do you do

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: you think and talk a lot about.

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Speaker 21: That, Yeah, yeah, we do.

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Speaker 22: We do.

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Speaker 15: In our second trial form were fortunate enough that the

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Speaker 15: markings look filled with the Las Vegas pitch with and length,

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Speaker 15: and then the fields we train on here are the same.

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Speaker 15: And then we even before we left, we had three

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01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 15: training sessions on our field at home where we change

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Speaker 15: the marking. So this just to make sure that we

1378
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 15: don't get We're not unorganized. I'm not ready for it.

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Speaker 15: But the biggest thing we find is if here you

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 15: got space on the edge to attack, and the next thing,

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 15: our attackers are running out of the room, like we

1382
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 15: ran out three times today, got pushing the touch back

1383
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 15: against each other, just simply not having our bearings right.

1384
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 15: So we got to keep working on that.

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Speaker 23: Now.

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Speaker 2: These trial games, which I watched both of them, of course,

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Speaker 2: see the commentary seemed on the first one to be

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01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: a little bit negative. That drawer. I didn't think it

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01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: was as bad as people made it out to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you're unhappy, but it wasn't the

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Speaker 2: end of the world, was it.

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Speaker 15: No, it certainly was at the end of the world,

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 15: nothing to worry or panic about. I wish we worked better,

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01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 15: but you know, I thought we obviously needed to get

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Speaker 15: rid of some rusks. I thought the second trial were

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Speaker 15: very dominant. Obviously wasn't against Melbourne's best team, but I

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Speaker 15: thought we took a lot of learning in the first

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Speaker 15: trial and it allowed us to narrow our focus in

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Speaker 15: the next week around our defense. Particularly. Yeah, you saw

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 15: it much improved in a much more aggressivetistical performance. But

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Speaker 15: without that first trial, we wouldn't have known that, because

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01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 15: you think you're going all really smooth when you're training

1403
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 15: against each other, you don't really know it until you

1404
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 15: face another ral opposition.

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Speaker 2: And what do you take out of Melbourne? I mean,

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01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: you said that they didn't have much of a side

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01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: of course, but then again we had some people missing.

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: So what's the value, you know, of a trial if

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01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: you can't put, you know, the field or the team

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01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: on the field that you want.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I mean the big things

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01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 15: that I took out of it were just I thought

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 15: we were very at the start of the game. I

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 15: thought we got the start right, We got into a

1415
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Speaker 15: rhythm with our defense, and I thought our attack was real.

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Speaker 15: We're very well and where we wanted to be and

1417
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 15: how we wanted to get there, and then once we

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 15: got there, I thought we then executed our play very well.

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01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 15: I thought everyone was on think, but I thought it

1420
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 15: all came from saving energy and being more efficient with

1421
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 15: our defense, which gave us a better opportunity attack. Well.

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Speaker 2: James Fisher, Harrison for that matter, all the other newbies,

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01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: how are they fitting in? Is that working?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's going really well. This is the strengths been leadership,

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01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 15: not so much from talking all the time, but leadership

1426
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 15: from his actions, the way he trains. People just don't

1427
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 15: want to let fish down. So he's out there doing

1428
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 15: extras for ages, and now you've got all these young

1429
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 15: guys with him doing it, you know. I mean everyone

1430
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 15: has always done extras at our club, but it's just

1431
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 15: done to a different intensity now, which is really cool.

1432
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 15: Aaron Clark is then, he's a new Playoffs and he's

1433
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 15: been awesome and he should do really well. In particular

1434
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 15: in that Melbourne game he played outstanding. So it's good

1435
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 15: for a couple of keywis. Come home to the worry,

1436
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 15: come home to his ill.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Hey, listen, I will come and talk about your

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: camp in just a couple of moments. Andrew webs is

1439
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: with us from Vegas this morning. More in a moment,

1440
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: thirteen past.

1441
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Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio, cowered

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01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: by news Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be sixteen past dight. Andrew Webster out of Vegas. Listen, Andrew,

1444
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 2: before you got to Vegas, you had the camp part

1445
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: of the summer program. Of course, and I'm reading all

1446
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: about this. There was no television, no phones, and you

1447
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: played board games all day. What it said about.

1448
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Speaker 15: We didn't buy him all day. We trained pretty hard

1449
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 15: on that. No, we just we just wanted to get

1450
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 15: away and go to somewhere. And we went to Saint

1451
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 15: Keps obviously high school at the school holidays, so we

1452
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 15: had the run of the whole facility and we had

1453
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 15: great fields, We had a great gym, we had a

1454
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 15: pool for recovery, and then we had dorms, so there

1455
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 15: was like six to eight in the dorn. We had

1456
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 15: a big food hall. We played like trivia at night.

1457
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 15: There was only done. They use their phones for an

1458
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 15: hour a day that to come get it out of

1459
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 15: off from the team manager just to call home and

1460
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 15: make sure everything was okay. But yeah, you just found

1461
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 15: everyone talking so much more, and at night they started

1462
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 15: playing board games and started you know, it was almost

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01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 15: like the old days. It was pretty exciting. And as

1464
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 15: a result of it, I felt like our connections are better,

1465
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 15: a lot closer, because I actually start asking genuine questions

1466
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 15: rather than just in between the odd house my social

1467
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 15: media going and then putting the head up and having

1468
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Speaker 15: a probably a fake conversation that the boy said to

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Speaker 15: the reddle one.

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Speaker 2: And did you notice a variation in the way they

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: handled that depending on age or not?

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Speaker 15: Definitely. The first of all, yeah, it's different. The younger

1473
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 15: guys there very keen on obviously the social media side

1474
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 15: of it, and that's their life, that's how they communicate.

1475
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 15: And then the sort of the older boys were more

1476
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 15: worried about just making sure their families were good and

1477
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 15: how how were they So there was two different, two

1478
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 15: different objectives and why they wanted their phones. But I

1479
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 15: felt like the first two nights they almost didn't know

1480
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 15: what to do. I mean, after dinner, after we played

1481
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 15: our Tribua, they almost didn't know what to do. And

1482
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 15: then by the last three nights we saw them that

1483
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 15: social that happy, and yeah, it was a great experiment.

1484
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: Now, ultimately, what have you taken out of last year

1485
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: which should have been better but wasn't to put into

1486
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: this year.

1487
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, on the field point of view, our goal

1488
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 15: line defense cively wasn't good enough and our goal line attack.

1489
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 15: So that's been a pretty simple focus. The other one

1490
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 15: is I don't think you can always assume that you

1491
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 15: think we've covered that, We've practiced that a lot. They

1492
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 15: we've got that, we've got that covered. We probably we

1493
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 15: probably didn't have the same amount of detail and a

1494
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 15: few things if I'm being honest, but definitely want to

1495
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 15: sort out our goal line attack Yetbut to being resilient,

1496
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 15: I think there's a lot of detail in that. But

1497
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 15: I think there's also when you care for each other

1498
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 15: and you've got to go good bond as a group

1499
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 15: and you want to actually defend your trolong for your mate.

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Speaker 15: And then yeah, just our execution next to the line.

1501
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 15: We were absolutely rutheless they before and last year we

1502
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 15: just didn't. We didn't put it together that we should have.

1503
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: So the big question obviously is this our year.

1504
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Speaker 15: I hope. So I'm as confident as I've been in

1505
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 15: the last two seasons. Put it that way. So one

1506
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 15: year we come out and did it, the second year

1507
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 15: we didn't, So hopefully third the charm. But yeah, I'm confident, hopefully, hopefully,

1508
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 15: I'm confident every year that it's going to be our year.

1509
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 15: But at the moment the boys are giving you no

1510
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 15: indication that it shouldn't be our year.

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Speaker 2: Good on you go. Well, we'll be watching on the weekend.

1512
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Speaker 2: Andrew Webster, Warrior's coach with us. By the way, it's

1513
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Speaker 2: an article across the Tasman A talking about this whole

1514
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Speaker 2: Vaguas thing by trying to crack this market America in

1515
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Speaker 2: the city with foreign sport that few have heard of

1516
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Speaker 2: or understand. The National Rugby League is shooting for the moon,

1517
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Speaker 2: which is probably not a bad way of putting it.

1518
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: The Australian media also reporting as far as they went

1519
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Speaker 2: through Sydney Morning Herald, this is they've gone through every

1520
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Speaker 2: team and protected where the season is going to go

1521
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Speaker 2: for them. Sydney Morning Herald in the very good news

1522
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Speaker 2: is because they're Australians, they don't quite understand how it works.

1523
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Speaker 2: They have us with seven wins and coming second to last,

1524
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Speaker 2: so clearly got that wrong eight twenty.

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Speaker 2: tasking point Mike Meridian's comment regarding contingent storage as a

1548
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: red herring. Meridians able to access contingent storage when their

1549
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 2: lakes reach a certain level, which coincidentally also triggers an

1550
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: official conservation campaign. That level wasn't reached in twenty four,

1551
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: so Meridian had no need to access at The key

1552
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: point is that they want the level lifted so that

1553
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: the official conservation campaign has started sooner to reduce the

1554
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: financial cost that Meridian would be subject to. Well, what's

1555
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: wrong with that? So they want to save a bit

1556
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: of money? I mean, is that suddenly a crime in

1557
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: this country? Now, is it? I mean, if we've got

1558
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: water sitting there, set to go and we're paying eight

1559
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: hundred dollars for the spot price, come on. Now we

1560
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: come to Shane Jones and Simon Watts a proposal. Listen

1561
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: to this and see if you understand a single thing

1562
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 2: that they're saying here. A proposal by the Electricity Authority

1563
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: for mandatory non discrimination obligations for electricity. Gent Tailor sends

1564
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: a strong signal that any advantage being provided to their

1565
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: own retailers will not be tolerated, says mister Jones and

1566
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 2: mister Watts. The EA is proposing a progressive approach to

1567
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: non discrimination obligation, supported by increased monitoring of gen Taylor's

1568
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: responses and consumer outcomes. If the first step proves insufficient,

1569
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: the EA could escalate to more prescriptive ways of leveling

1570
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 2: the paying field. What does that mean? What does any

1571
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 2: of that mean? Proposed steps are one principles based on

1572
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: non discrimination requirements. What's that mean? Two non discrimination requirements

1573
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: set out in detail. What's that mean? Three? All gent

1574
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 2: Tailor's supplied hedge contracts must be traded through a regulated

1575
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: market on equal terms for all buyers. I understand that

1576
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: here's the critical line that actually makes sense. It only

1577
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: took them about five paragraphs to speak English. The proposed

1578
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: measures send a strong signal that gent Tailor's creating an

1579
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 2: advantage for their own retailers at the expense of the

1580
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: affordability and security of New Zealand's energy supply will no

1581
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: longer be tolerated. This means, in yet more common sense,

1582
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 2: in plain language, this means Gent Tailors would be required

1583
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: to treat independent retailers and generators the same as they

1584
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 2: do their own retail ants. All of that's fine, that's fantastic,

1585
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: and theory, that's fantastic. Let's hope they do it. And

1586
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: as you heard, if they don't do it, then they're

1587
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: gonna do something even more serious. So but the problem

1588
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: is this, you can treat everybody. And this goes back

1589
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: to the whole gentailor thing and whether you should split

1590
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: these people up. It's exactly the same as the supermarkets.

1591
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: There are two companies, maybe they need three, Maybe they

1592
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: need to split the supermarkets up, Maybe they need to

1593
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: split the gent tailors up. In the power But while

1594
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 2: we're mucking around and talking about all of that, what

1595
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: we are more concerned about, surely is do we have

1596
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: enough water, do we have enough wind? If we have

1597
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: enough wind, do we have enough propellers, Do we have

1598
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: enough sun? Do we have enough solar panels? Do we

1599
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: have enough renewables? Are we just going to continue to

1600
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: report coal forever? In other words, can we turn the

1601
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: lights on? Is the answer in regulation of gen Taylor's

1602
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: and rules, or is the answer in the amount of

1603
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: stuff that we have to produce? The power, And if

1604
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: we don't have enough stuff, what are we doing about that?

1605
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: Surely that's the more important point. And if, as the

1606
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: man from Meridian says, there's plenty of water there and

1607
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: we just need to get access to it, why aren't

1608
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: we getting access to it? And why is it we're

1609
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: reliant on transpower, a monopoly government owned and government run?

1610
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 2: And where are the EA and all of this? Where's

1611
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 2: the electricity authority? And what is it they actually do

1612
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: when we're watching the spot price as we were last

1613
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: winter at eight hundred dollars a gig?

1614
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 21: What for song?

1615
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: Whatever the hell we call? Let's go to Britain and

1616
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: rod shortly.

1617
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day Steel

1618
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the buyers.

1619
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: Others can use Togstad b Mike.

1620
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: You should ask the generators how much water has been

1621
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: spilled down the cluth of the summer. It's an unbelievable volume. Yes,

1622
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: But that's the problem, isn't it. Think about it's all

1623
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: very well to spill water, but the reason you're spilling

1624
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: water is you've got more water than you need. Why

1625
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: do you have more water than you need? Because it's

1626
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: obviously rained more than you're anticipating. Plus, the demand on

1627
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: power in the summertime is nowhere near as great as winter.

1628
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: So when you're relying on water i e. Hydro to

1629
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: run your system, you need to store it. Can we

1630
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: store it? No? So you spill it in summer. That's

1631
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 2: the difficulty. Mike, your commentary power don't make sense. Are

1632
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: you saying one not enough power? Yes? I am. Two

1633
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 2: it's too expensive, Yes I am. Or three transpower eas

1634
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: at fault. I'm saying all of that. You're all over

1635
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: the place, right, No I'm not. It's not that complicated.

1636
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: Is there enough power? No, there isn't because we rely

1637
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: on hydro. It's been the start of a dry year.

1638
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: We aren't able to store enough of what we've got,

1639
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: and all of the renewables aren't online enough to the

1640
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: extent that they can sup apply the demand that will

1641
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: arrive in winter. Two Is it too expensive? Yes it is.

1642
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: Why is it too expensive? Because we don't have the supply.

1643
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 2: The demand goes up, the supply can't match it, hence

1644
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: the price goes up. Three transparent EA is Are they

1645
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 2: a fault? Yes they are? Because what's EA doing? Tell

1646
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: me what EA are doing? And if the Meridian guy's right,

1647
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: and they can get access or want access to water

1648
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: that we've got, but you can't get access to that's

1649
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: their domain. They're the ones who are in charge of

1650
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: the rules that are presenting preventing us getting access, not

1651
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: all over the place at all, makes perfect sense, makes

1652
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 2: perfect sense in my head, twenty two minutes away from nine,

1653
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: asking let's go to Britain now, and the mighty Rod

1654
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 2: Little's whether it's Rod morning to you?

1655
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 3: Good morning, may tayd good.

1656
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: I watched with the great deal of interest the increase

1657
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: in expenditure for defense, which I'm assuming he can take

1658
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: in his little briefcase to Washington to go, Hey, Donald,

1659
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,520
Speaker 2: guess what I did, and that'll play well for him.

1660
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 5: Yes, but there's no question the Donald Trump's intervention and JD.

1661
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 5: Vance's intervention a week or two weeks ago was crucial

1662
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 5: in this instance. But it's also possibly true that the

1663
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,520
Speaker 5: arrival of Trump has kind of imbewed a new realism

1664
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 5: within the Labor Party and within the Labor government, and

1665
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 5: particularly within Sirkia Starmer because it is no small thing

1666
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 5: for a labor government to slash its overseas aid budget

1667
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 5: by almost half that is no small theme, and he

1668
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 5: did it, and he did it without so much as

1669
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 5: a by your leave. Frankly, so I think there is

1670
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 5: a kind of post Trumpian realism settling in. And it's

1671
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 5: also true that Sirkia Starmer I think is a far

1672
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 5: far better Prime Minister of Great Britain when he is

1673
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 5: out of Great Britain than when he's in it, in

1674
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 5: that he does have a certain dexterity when talking to

1675
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 5: people like Macron and Trump, which is never evident over

1676
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 5: here when he comes across as a kind of adenoidal automaton.

1677
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 5: So most of this stuff has really really appealed to

1678
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 5: an awful lot of voters who might otherwise none have

1679
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 5: considered voting for it.

1680
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: It's very interesting you say that I read a poll

1681
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 2: out on the show earlier on this morning, because of

1682
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: course what you hear on the news are all the

1683
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: aid agencies just sobbing with fear and upset. And yet

1684
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: the poll suggested that there's the majority two thirds in

1685
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 2: fact of Brits think you' spend far too much on

1686
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 2: aid as it is, but only fourteen percent think he's

1687
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: been too much on defense. In other words, they want

1688
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: more spent on defense, So he's read the room.

1689
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 5: Well indeed, but everyone thinks that that. The truth is

1690
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 5: that overseas aid is only ever performative. It doesn't give

1691
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 5: any benefit to the countries in which it's receiving the

1692
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 5: aid apart from two members of the predatory elites. I mean,

1693
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 5: one of the things we were spending money on was

1694
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 5: was a hundred and ten million pound program to make

1695
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:09,440
Speaker 5: the Democratic Republic of the Congo civil service less meritocratic

1696
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 5: and efficient than it is at the moment by introducing diversity,

1697
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 5: equity and inclusion. I mean, you know, you can't. It

1698
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 5: is hard if you're a satirist to outdo this stuff.

1699
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 5: So no one is losing much sleep over this, apart

1700
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 5: from the NGOs, the charities and so on. And it

1701
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 5: has commended itself to Trump, who's already sort of been

1702
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 5: pleased about it. It's still nowhere near what we need,

1703
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 5: but it does put us back up there with the

1704
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 5: Baltic States in the highest paying country towards NATO.

1705
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 2: As regards the troop is what's he looking to do?

1706
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: Is he looking to reinforce what Macron was trying to do?

1707
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: In other words, this is Europe speaking or has he

1708
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: got his own British message.

1709
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 5: I think he's got his own British message as well

1710
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 5: as a European world. The British messages we are an

1711
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 5: intermediary between you and those low lifes in Paris, Roman Munich.

1712
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 5: You know that that we we can, we can, we

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Speaker 5: can be a kind of bridge between these two countries.

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Speaker 5: But also he will be quite strong on Ukraine. Uh,

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Speaker 5: probably stronger given the history that the Macron was Uh.

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Speaker 5: And but but what will be put battery will be right.

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Speaker 5: You believe Ukraine needs to be supported supported, You know

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Speaker 5: you support it. I'm not going to so I think

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Speaker 5: he's got a few difficult questions to answer there. Other

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Speaker 5: than that, I think he probably emerged from these few

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Speaker 5: days slightly better off than he was. He is quite

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Speaker 5: good at this foreign diplomacy stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be interested to see. And of course,

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Speaker 2: because we've become fascinated with Ukraine, is he going to

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Speaker 2: raise terraffs? And the reason I asked this is because

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Speaker 2: I remember in the early days of the Trump administration,

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Speaker 2: Trump was ending outside a plane and he goes, there's

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Speaker 2: terroriffs on everybody. You know, the UK might be different.

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Speaker 2: We might be able to cutter they or the UK.

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Speaker 2: Then a couple of days later he goes, there's no exceptions,

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Speaker 2: so where's britainnett and the tariff debate and can he

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Speaker 2: twist a few arms?

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Speaker 5: I don't, don't. I don't think we're high up the

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Speaker 5: gender of the teriff debate. Lastly, because we have a

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Speaker 5: massive trade deficit with the US. The US has a

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Speaker 5: trade surplus with US, so I think we're fast safer

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Speaker 5: there than for example, Germany or France. Uh And that

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Speaker 5: plays again into Sekia Star's hands. So I think we're

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Speaker 5: better off in that regard.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Then we come to the fabulous BBC in the

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Speaker 2: Guadza documentary. That's let's turned into be quite the pile on,

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Speaker 2: hasn't They pulled the documentary? And then everyone everyone wants

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Speaker 2: a piece of this.

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Speaker 5: Well, are you surprised the commissioned a documentary which was

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Speaker 5: reeated by the son of our Mas terrorist After a

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 5: year and however many months it is of being told

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Speaker 5: that they were biased over this issue. It is an

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Speaker 5: incalculably stupid act. If it was stupidity, which is what

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Speaker 5: people at the BBC tell me it was, and if not,

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Speaker 5: it was just another example of that bias. It is

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Speaker 5: a real problem for them, and my guess is it

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Speaker 5: will see at some point the departure of the director

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Speaker 5: of BBC is Deborah turns.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, go well, we'll catch up in a

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Speaker 2: couple of days, Rod Little, you have a good week

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Speaker 2: in Rod Little Tuesdays and Thursday. Speaking of the terraces.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jim Chalmers, who's the Australian treasure he's

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Speaker 2: been in Washington, told you about his departure the other

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Speaker 2: day to try and twist an arm and he met

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Speaker 2: Scott percent who's the Treasury Secretary. He's left Washington with

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Speaker 2: no verdict. Scott said, it's not me, it's Donald And

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01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 2: so I don't think because you remember a couple of

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Speaker 2: what was it a week and a half to two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, Elbanezy, after being on the phone with Trump

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Speaker 2: couldn't get out in front of the me you fast

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Speaker 2: enough going? How am I going? Ha? Donald Trump? And

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Speaker 2: it's going to be fantastic. And I just thought, mate,

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Speaker 2: you've been played. You've been played like a fiddle, and

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Speaker 2: it looks like there are going to be no exceptions

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Speaker 2: or exceptions. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At B twelve away from a Just to wrap up

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Speaker 2: that story I alluded to before eight o'clock. So a

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Speaker 2: committee representative right has been paid for not turning up

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Speaker 2: to meetings and he's been doing that for two years

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Speaker 2: and no one's done anything about it. Four thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a year to be on the Canterbury Water Zone Committee,

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Speaker 2: Deputy chair gets five thousand dollars, chairperson six thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: For the last two years twenty three and twenty four,

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Speaker 2: fourteen meetings held of the Ashburton Water Zone Committee and

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Speaker 2: Adapata Rubin, who is the Tahledi representative, didn't attend any

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Speaker 2: of those meetings, but he received the full eight thousand,

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01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: had an apology for four meetings, but was listed absence

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Speaker 2: without an apology for the last seven Joint Committee of

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Speaker 2: b can in the Ashburn District Council. The ECM Senior

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Speaker 2: strategy Manager Cameron Smith says both councils were aware that

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Speaker 2: Reuben didn't turn up, but the committee's future is under abuse,

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Speaker 2: so they haven't done anything about him. Welcome to New

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Speaker 2: Zealand twenty twenty five. I mean you literally can't make

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01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: that crap up, literally being paid not to turn up.

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01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: They know he didn't turn up. He's done nothing. But

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Speaker 2: are we going to do anything about it? No, we're

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: not defend that. You can't defeenad it anyway. Now, then

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Speaker 2: we come to this experiment. We're running in the afternoon

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Speaker 2: between twelve and four. Is it twelve and four or

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Speaker 2: twelve and three? It's twelve and four this Tyler Matt show.

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Speaker 2: What's going on here?

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Speaker 6: You can tell on panting here, my mate's topless. My

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Speaker 6: computer shut down here the computer shutdown. Yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 6: spilled a coffee. We're everywhere, and you know we're in

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Speaker 6: the my Costing Memorial studio. So you got to You

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01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 6: got to clean up when you make a mess. So

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Speaker 6: I immediately whipped my shirt off to wipe down the bench.

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 6: And yeah, still doing he's wrong. You don't clean up

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Speaker 6: with a mess. What you do is you don't let

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Speaker 6: those sort of people into the Mike Hosking Memorial Studio

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Speaker 6: in the first place. And I've told the management this,

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01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 6: and I said, first of all, these clowns are nothing

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01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 6: but trouble. They're going to cause us nothing but difficulty.

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Speaker 6: And was I right or was I right. So apparently

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Speaker 6: I only found out about this through because I don't

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Speaker 6: listen to them. Obviously you found out about this through

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Speaker 6: the grape vine.

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Speaker 26: Someone spilled their coffee every I'm not sure who it was.

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Speaker 26: We'll look at the tapes. It was either me or Tyler.

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Speaker 6: The evidence is there, man, I'm looking forward to seeing

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01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 6: that video.

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Speaker 26: So we had to move to another studio and try

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Speaker 26: and piece together a show over there with very little tech.

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Speaker 26: But we're now back and no one tell Hosking about

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Speaker 26: this again. Yea, Please don't don't tell Hosking. You see

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Speaker 26: him out shopping as do mention it because the coffee's

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Speaker 26: all been in a special stuff that's down and there

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Speaker 26: these draws here.

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Speaker 21: He'll never know.

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Speaker 26: I tried to clean off a special pens and everything,

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Speaker 26: but it was a coffee again in in here.

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Speaker 6: It's been given a clean It smells like lemon water,

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Speaker 6: which he's used to.

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Speaker 2: Nobody told so cone of silence everyone. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I knew about it this morning because I emptied the

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01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 2: rubbish bin because those pigs don't do it, and so

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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: I empty the rubbish pan every morning, and in the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the rubbish bin are eight hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: seven thousand wet towels that they've been.

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Speaker 3: It's sanitizing the scene of the crime.

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01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:26,520
Speaker 2: Went over, exactly do the clean up the evidence? Idiots?

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Speaker 2: And how many memos have been written over the years

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Speaker 2: about not spelling stuff in the studio? How many memos?

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Speaker 2: I think this officially is a last I'd like to personally,

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01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: I'd like to make it. It don't come Monday, but

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01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: let's call this the last warning? Shall we? Nine away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate Newstalgs.

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Speaker 2: There'd be someone saying citizens arrest. I might try that

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01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 2: out when the New York is paying or arrest them.

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to do. Quick stats on the

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Speaker 2: booze I looked up. Are we drinking more or less?

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01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: It's an interesting outcome because low alcohol, we don't like.

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01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: We're drinking much less of that medium alcohol. This is

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01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: beer two and a half, four and a half percent

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01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: is down. Above five percent is up a little bit,

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01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: not much, but a bit. Eighty eight percent of the

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Speaker 2: beer produced in this country is consumed twelve percent and ported.

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Speaker 2: So that's good. Wine's down. Fortified wine above fourteen percent

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01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: that's your ports and stuff like that. That's down significantly.

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01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: Seventy two percent of the wine we drink is produced

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Speaker 2: here in twenty eight percents, and ported spirits are down

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01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: five and a half percent. So I'm not sure whether

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Speaker 2: that's a health kick or whether that's more the economy.

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01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: But overall, here's the depressing thing. We're drinking more. So

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01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: beer consumption is up four and a half percent, but

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01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: wine is down four percent. So therefore we're just drinking

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01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: more beer and less wine. But overall we're drinking a

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01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 2: bit more. Spirits are down ten percent.

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Speaker 5: It's going to say, can you tell me about Bourbon?

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01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's spirits down ten percent?

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01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:51,799
Speaker 20: What about Sodu?

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Speaker 2: You go any that down eighteen percent? Are you kittsu

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01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: yep down twelve percent? Five minutes away from nine trending?

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Speaker 3: Now must warehouse the real House of Vitamin.

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Speaker 2: We've got a new Alexa. So back in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you remember this because we dedicated the whole

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Speaker 2: show to it. We took calls on Amazon poach Microsoft's

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01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: front man panels pan A. It was the panels pan

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Speaker 2: a Day. Remember that show. Anyway, he's launched a whole

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01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: new Alexa this morning. Do you know what he's called it?

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Speaker 2: Alexa Plus.

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Speaker 13: There's about two one hundred and fifty people with me

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Speaker 13: right now.

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01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,480
Speaker 14: They're tech reporters, influencers, bloggers, partners.

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Speaker 7: It's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit nervous about it.

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01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 7: We're about to do like digitals.

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Speaker 2: What do you think can go wrong?

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01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 14: Wow? That sounds like quite an event with so many

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01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 14: eyes on you, It's natural to feel a bit.

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01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 3: Nervous as for what could go wrong. Let's just see.

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Speaker 2: Murphy's Law is probably sharpening his pencil right now.

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Speaker 19: Hey, those live demos are where magic happens and where

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01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 19: you'll shine brightest.

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01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 3: Remember, even if something hiccups, it's all.

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Speaker 22: Part of the show.

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01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 2: It's a much more natural conversation. I've never heard anything

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Speaker 2: more natural than what I just heard there. US customers

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Speaker 2: are going to get it next month, Amazon Smart Speakers,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand soon enough? What does that mean? Soon enough?

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Speaker 5: Sam rhades down?

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Speaker 2: Soon enough, don't worry. When's it coming to New Zealand?

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01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: The most critical thing we want to know, when's it

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01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 2: coming to New Zealand?

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01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 11: Sam?

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01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: Guys are soon enough? What the hell you should run

1905
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: the EA? Why don't you run the electricity Authority a

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01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: standalone subscription of twenty bucks a month US. It's free

1907
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: if you're on Amazon Prime. I'm on Amazon Prime, so

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01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 2: that's good, but I don't want that anyway. There's no

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Speaker 2: new speakers. There's just alexaplus from Panos pan All Back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. Friday Morning's edition to the Mike Hosting Breakfast.

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Speaker 13: We can ask Alexa to play news DOORSB on your

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Speaker 13: speaker and she.

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Speaker 2: Will will share It's okay, you go do that green

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Speaker 2: and have fun. Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, Listen live to

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