1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: The Mantain Jerry Show. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 2: Load up on landscaping with Bunnings Trade. 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 3: It's the best breadless sharm maten cher Man Farm six 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: u Night, Matt and Jerry holy. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 4: Day Farm six sull. 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Night, Good morning and welcome along to the Matin Jerys Show. Wednesday, 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: the fourth of September twenty twenty four. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Good news everyone, It's hump Day, the twenty ninth official 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: hump day of twenty twenty four. A hump day, of course, 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: can only fall on a Wednesday of a full five 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: day Monday to Friday working week, so there are only 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: officially forty three hump days in twenty twenty four. And 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: as I said, this is the twenty ninth hump day, 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: hump Day being. 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: I've the middle of the week, do we no matter? 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 5: Half days now? 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Lots coming up this morning on the Mountain Jerry Show, 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: the latest Oasis News. What did yoldie English sound like? 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: We bring you all the details. 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: I bet you can't understand it, because I was I 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: read somewhere that if you went back to Shakespeare's you 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: might as well go to Germany. Germany now compared to 23 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: the X you wouldn't be able to understand a word 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: of what people say. 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: We've gone all the way back in time and we've 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: recorded people from from eleven hundred all the way through 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: to seventeen hundred, and we know what it sounds like. 28 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: We've recorded them wow, and we we're going to play 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: you exactly. 30 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 5: What that sounds like. 31 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: You didn't bring the plague back with you? God, I 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: hope you didn't bring them up the Black Death back 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: with you. 34 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: After seven o'clock, Norman Ohler, author of Blitzed and Tripped, 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: joins us on the Mountain Jerry Show. 36 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 5: What an interesting man he is? 37 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 6: Then Matt and Jerry Show podcast. 38 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: So did you see yesterday an Auckland man was shooting 39 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: pigeons from his Herne Bay property, up market hen Bay property. 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Whenever anyone's driving a nice car or lives in a 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: nice house of whatever happens, it's kind of like that 42 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: you get shamed for it. So he's doing something wrong allegedly. Yeah, 43 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: but it's in an up market bay. 44 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Property, that market Hernbay property. It's sparked the lockdown at 45 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: a nearby promier. 46 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 5: Score this. My kids are primary school, Ponsonby Primary. 47 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: So apparently officers responded to report that a man with 48 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: a gun was it a Ponsonby property at ten am. 49 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: It turns out that it was a BB gun and 50 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: he was lawfully shooting pigeons on his property. 51 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: Well, a BB gun a bbe So it was a 52 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: visual thing. People saw the gun because a BB gun 53 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sound. 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 5: No, it doesn't make any sound, doesn't. 55 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: So the property borders the grounds of Ponsonby Primary School, 56 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: which at that time self initiated a lockdown as a precaution. 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, as you would. Yeah, you've got some dude 58 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: with a gun. Yeah, you got to do that. To 59 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: do that, they that was exactly what they needed. 60 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: To do because because I mean, the lockdown's one thing 61 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: that's inconvenient. You've got it wrong and it's a BB 62 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: gun and you got but the reverse situation is so 63 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: bad that it's worth a lockdown. Yeah, absolutely, And. 64 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: As we know overseas and stuff, it's not completely foreign 65 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: for people to have guns at schools, et cetera. So 66 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: the school's website said, please do not come to the 67 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: school or phone the school as you will not be 68 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: attended to and this may cause disruption to the management 69 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: of this incident and could potentially place yourselves and or 70 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: our staff and student safety at risk. So in the end, 71 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: they lifted the lockdown at eleven forty am. 72 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: Because all these schools now do these lockdown practices whatever 73 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: you call it, you know, drills. Yeah, and they seem 74 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: silly to me, but until something like that happened, and 75 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: you'd be like, I'm glad they did. 76 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, my daughter's school had one the other day. 77 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: But I'm always alerted to them via text. Do you 78 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: get alerted via text? Yeah, I'll get a text. It's 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: like the school is currently in lockdown. 80 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: I was. 81 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I didn't even know, Yeah, if the kids were at 82 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: school or wagging or what they're doing. 83 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: To be honest, my. 84 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Son was complaining that it goes that the only strategy 85 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: they seem to be an employing is that you hide 86 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: under your desk. 87 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh, is that what they do during the lockdown? 88 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they go It's kind of like the duck and 89 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: cover situation from the nuclear wars and the earthquake. It's 90 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: all the same. You all do the same thing, get 91 00:03:54,200 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: under your desk and like, okay, but yeah, you kind 92 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: of like get a bit cynical. 93 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 5: The girl. 94 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: We're just trying to Are we importing fears from the 95 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: United States of America because you know, we're so focused 96 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: on that country because there has never been a school 97 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: shooting in New Zealand, is there. 98 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: No, there hasn't. 99 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: But but then as soon as there is one, then 100 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: you go, well, I. 101 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, exactly, No, I think that's I think that 102 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: was totally the right thing to do. I mean, that's 103 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: fun for the kids. Yeah, what were these pigeons doing that? 104 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 5: The guy was shooting them, That's what. 105 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: I want to know. 106 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: And his upmarket hernbe property, yeah, or they upmarket pigeons. 107 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm just seeing a look at them now, Oh, they 108 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: look like nice looking pigeons. They have pretty fancy, fancy pigeons. 109 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 6: And Mat and Jerry Show podcast. 110 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: So big news last week that Leam and Noel Gallagher 111 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: have got the band back together an Oasis playing fourteen 112 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: gigs seventeen. 113 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Now, why didn't we have wall to wall blanket coverage 114 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: of us. I think you fire we did if you 115 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: look back through the logs across. 116 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: So the tour is called Oasis Life twenty five and 117 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: there's been rumors that they'll be following that up with 118 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: dates around the world. There's even talk about a couple 119 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: of gigs at Edon Park here. 120 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: I was in Adheden, Pak yesterday and they're removing the 121 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: west part of the West stand. They had those crunchy 122 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, those cranes, but they've got a cruncher on it. 123 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: They got like a they got like a dinosaur's face 124 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: on it. They're ripping those dands to pieces to make 125 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: more room for stages. 126 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: In preparation for Oasis. 127 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 2: Well, I was wondering if Oasis. Yeah, Oasis will probably 128 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: do six ggsiting part. 129 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: So apparently, Yesaidy. 130 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: There's a new billboard that went up in the US 131 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: and it appears to have been put out by Amazon Music, 132 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: and it says, if we need to put a billboard 133 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: up to get these guys to come to the States 134 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: here it is but ruder reckons that you wouldn't be 135 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: able to put that billboard up without permission from the 136 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: band ah using their images. 137 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 7: Also a massive Oasis logo in the middle of it 138 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 7: as well, which is quite intriguing. 139 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean Amazon Music don't put on concerts, 140 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: they do they but they do sell Oasis as music. 141 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: Yes, So apparently gambling companies in the UK of off 142 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: at all of four to one in a ways of 143 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: splitting up before their twenty twenty five tour start. 144 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: So four to one, four to one, so for being 145 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: the most likely and one being the least likely or. 146 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 5: Four to one. Yeah, so that's like what is four? 147 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 5: Is that four dollars basically? Yeah? 148 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Four dollars so not bad. I mean four dollars. 149 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 5: That's good. Eat it? 150 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: I reckon it's bloody, could eat it. Oh it's till 151 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: the reunion to it ends. Okay, so you get that 152 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: that's going through all the whole tower. Well that's interesting, 153 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: isn't it? But can I get on that? 154 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: Get on that? 155 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? What if you're Noel or Liam Gallagher? 156 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: You do a contract where you're gonna get paid either 157 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: and then you drop, You drop all the money you're 158 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: getting paid for the concerts on yourself. 159 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Because it's not like sports. 160 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: They haven't signed any deal to be part of the 161 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: the gambling, have they. 162 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: No, they haven't. 163 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: They they're not. 164 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: They're not under ICC regulations or anything. 165 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 5: Oh jeez, you've that's a that's a good plan. 166 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: They could go into William Mill that will just do 167 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: will we when we Willmam Hill and drop fifty million 168 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: on us breaking up? Next thing? You know, you go 169 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: up to Liam give them the bird Downtraim and the 170 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: band's over. 171 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got two hundred million. 172 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 5: Yeah. Good plan. 173 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: Coming up after the sixty news headlines The Wonderful world 174 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: of disappointed Harry Potter fans. This is the Mat and 175 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Jerry Show radio headocke. 176 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: When I want to hear my favorite couple, Matt and 177 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: Jerry come to me, Heathan Wells for Breakfast Polarchy. 178 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 8: Matty, Jeremy Wells, the Maiden Cherry Show. 179 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: It's sixty one time for your radio Podaking news headlines 180 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: with Jeremy. 181 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Weiss fears that a new levy is making New Zealand 182 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: a less attractive place to visit overseas. Tourists will have 183 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: to pay one hundred dollars at the border from next month, 184 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: an increase of sixty five buck. 185 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: Do you reckon that makes any difference? Because I heard 186 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: someone this morning on Ryan Bridges Show saying, like from 187 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: the trauma tourism industry, that will remove forty eight thousand visitors. 188 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: But I went to India recently a couple of years ago, 189 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: and there was just a charge to get in. It 190 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: was like seventy bucks. You got a lot of places 191 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: and there's that charge. I don't think that's the difference. 192 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: I don't think if you've come all the way to 193 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: New Zealand, and I do think tourists need to pay 194 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: because they rip around their country and you know, as 195 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: everyone knows famously, we're paying insane amounts of rates in 196 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: cities and it's going up every year. So the tourists 197 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: have to freaking pay to come here. 198 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Right Yeah, there's some interesting places like tech Apol, for example, 199 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: where all the things that you do are free. Yeah, 200 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: so who pays for those? And that's a really popular 201 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: spot to come to. But also if you you know, 202 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: when you buy an air fare and then it adds 203 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: like some taxes on to the end of it, you 204 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: never turn around and say, you know what, I'm not 205 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: going to go to that country because of that. You 206 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: don't even know why it is, No, you don't. Australians 207 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: don't have to pay. Pacific countries in the Pacific don't 208 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: have to pay. 209 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: You have to pay to go to Australia. 210 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Right well, they don't have to pay to come here. 211 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: You have to pay, but not the not the high levee. 212 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I see what you're saying. Like the Australians, 213 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I thought no. 214 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: But but Australians will charge Americans or people from China, Yeah, 215 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: not quite as much as ours. 216 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just don't think. I think to come 217 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: to New. 218 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: Zealand is such a long way and such a problem. 219 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: And if Australians aren't paying, make bloody Australians pay. What 220 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: are we talking about? But everyone should pay. But I 221 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: just don't think that that's the difference. I just don't think. 222 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: And you wouldn't hear it about it till till the 223 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: end in one hundred bucks that's four drinks nowadays. 224 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I don't think it'll I reckon there. 225 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: Maybe less than less than half a percent of people. 226 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: Charge the bastards. And when they arrive, if they ask 227 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: for directions, give them bogus directions. 228 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: Well okay, yeah, just run them around the place. Yeah, 229 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: so they don't know what's going on. 230 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: We bring tourists here to absolutely milk them. That's what 231 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: we do. We charge them insane amounts. If you think 232 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars at the border, you should see any event, 233 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: any activity you try and do any New Zealand as 234 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: a tourist is whatever price you think, it'll still surprise you. 235 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: How expensive. 236 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: It is wait till they trying to go zorban. The 237 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: owners of the Black bo In on the West Coast 238 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: a changing tech and their mission to pass the pub on. 239 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: They've had no offers, so they've decided to lease it 240 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: and sell in a few years. The pub, only one 241 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: of two in the area, will shut on the nineteenth 242 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: of this month if no one claims it. 243 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: That's where the Labor Party started at black Ball, wasn't it. Yeah, 244 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: that's right through miners and such. 245 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: And Brenda McCallum will become England's new white Ball men's 246 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: cricket coach from January, combining the role with his existing 247 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: Red Bull duties. McCullum has agreed to a deal which 248 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: extends to the next fifty over World Cup in South 249 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: Africa in twenty twenty seven. He'll guide the Test squad 250 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: through to England's next home ashes campaign. 251 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: Also that year I saw Pat Cummins. He was attached 252 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: to some electrodes and he's been asked questions and if 253 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: he lied, it was attached to a light detector and 254 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: some electrodes. Did you see this? 255 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 5: No? 256 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: And they were asking him difficult questions and one of 257 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: them was is basball rubbish and he said absolute rubbish 258 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: and didn't get zapped and it didn't come up as 259 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: a low l Yeah. 260 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay, he believes the best ball as well. Yeah, I 261 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: think he genuinely does. They won that last so there 262 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: we go. Up next the Wonderful World of disappointed ri 263 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: Botter fans. 264 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: Oh you do so, Ariporter not Harry Potter must have 265 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: been becoming a fan. 266 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 6: The Mat and Jerry Show podcast. 267 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 5: Time for. 268 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: The Wonderful world of dish You appointed Aripotter funds. 269 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: Nice right dish point at Aripotter booed after an annual 270 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: announcement at London's King Cross railway station did not happen. 271 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 5: What Yeah, they booed. 272 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: They gathered at the station hoping to hear a message 273 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: on the public address system that the fictional Hogwarts Express 274 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: would depart from platform nine and three quarters at eleven am, 275 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: as it does in the Box and movies. The Back 276 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: to Hogwarts tradition, which celebrates the start of each academic 277 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: year at Hogwarts School every first of September, has previously 278 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: also involved the train service being displayed on departure boards, 279 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: with hundreds of fans attending The twenty twenty three event, 280 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: but King's Cross did not mark the occasion on Sunday. 281 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: They couldn't be bothered. Yeah, video shows. 282 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: An expecting crowd counting down to eleven am and then 283 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: booing when nothing happens. Mine cares. 284 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 9: So. 285 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: Warner Brothers announced back in July that they own the 286 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: Uddy Potter franchise, released the statement announcing that they would 287 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: be no back to Hogwarts event this year. 288 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because there's too many people that go to 289 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: King's Cross Station for the event and it causes disruptions 290 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: at King's Cross Station. 291 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: Right, it's already rammed. It's rammed. 292 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: And then you got all these ariy pot them muppet's 293 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: like you two turning up there waiting for the stupid announcement, 294 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: running a shopping trolley with an owl in it, at 295 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: a at a pillar and it's too hard to bloody 296 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: run the place. Oh yeah, you've just got these people 297 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: standing around just because they want to see some announcements 298 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: and said, bigger off you lot. Just imagine it. 299 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: What dementors, what life sucking fun sucking a holes they 300 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: are at King's Cross Station for not doing that, just 301 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: one day of disruption. 302 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Who gives a crap, brought too many people into the station. 303 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: There's too many people having fun in the station, and 304 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: that's not what station. We don't want joy. We don't 305 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: want one wonder. We want trains leaving on time with 306 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 2: minimum disruption. All right, you air botty fans, get our hair. 307 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: You're like vermin. That's the official statement from Warner Brothers 308 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: in The King's. 309 00:13:53,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 6: Cross, the Mass and Jerry Show podcast. 310 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: So the Alex playing South Africa Cape Town this weekend, 311 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: probably three thirty or something like that. That's normally what 312 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: time it is. They're playing the afternoon. 313 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: There, and you're wrestling your run kids out a bid 314 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: to watch South African games in the middle of the night. Nah, 315 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: well you don't tamp them out with a hot chocolate 316 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: in a blink. 317 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I know, but I did make you go hot chockey. 318 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: We started watching six forty five. Do you call them 319 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: hot chock Le's hot chocky? We call them hot Chocolate's 320 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: in their family choco lee. 321 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: Oh, you've you've left another you've left another consonant on that. 322 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why my parents called them. Would 323 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: you like a hot chocolate? 324 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 5: Get up? 325 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: We've dropped the album. We've just gone with hot chocky. 326 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, so yeah, that's such good games. So 327 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: there's something about South African gamesphere. 328 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: Especially at Ellis Park last week. How close is the 329 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: crowd to the players and how that's the absolute caudron, 330 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: isn't it, Alice, I'm just trying to think of Cape 331 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: Town not as much of a caudron as it. 332 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: No, it's not. 333 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: So it's on the low. Yeah, so it's down at 334 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: sea level. So apparently South Africa and the New Zealand 335 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Rugby Union have reached an agreement and they're gonna they're 336 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: gonna crank up the full tours again. Oh brilliant. So 337 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be twenty twenty six. 338 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: This is great news. 339 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 340 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: So the AB's are going to the Republic for eight matches, 341 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: three tests, wow, four contests against domestic clubs and one 342 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: match against South Africa. A. 343 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: That's what we're after. That is so freaking good. 344 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Yes, So it's the first tour that they've had there 345 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety six. Remember when we won our first 346 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: series over there? 347 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's amazing it. His first series was 348 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: one in nineteen ninety six. That incredible history of New 349 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby going back to the Invincibles and such, and 350 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: the first time we'd won a Test series in South 351 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: Africa was nineteen ninety six. 352 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: I hope that they go full noise and they even 353 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: going with the home referees. Let's really make it difficult. 354 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: Let's do the guys used to have to do when 355 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: they's to tour in the fifties and sixties home reffs. 356 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 5: Nobody knew what the hell was going on, but. 357 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: What bluddy well it felt like a home reff with 358 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: Buddy Bongie, Mum Darbie. Oh the knock on bongie, yeahmbr Narbie. 359 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Then apparently I don't think it was quite getting the 360 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: name of Bongee. 361 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: Yes, right, you got that. 362 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: But right, and then you've got im in bond Narby. 363 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: So do you not say the in no that you 364 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: do so the bonging umber Narbi. 365 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: So then the South African I don't I avoid saying wise. Yeah, 366 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: So the box are coming here in twenty thirty, twenty thirty, yeah, 367 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: twenty thirty. Well I won't be with us anymore, just 368 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: a couple of sleeps away. 369 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll have a welle a bridge you bridge 370 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: the north Shore and tunnel from Bacton to Wellington. 371 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: At least we'll be charging one hundred bucks as tourists 372 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: to come over here. 373 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 6: Then That and Jerry Show podcast. 374 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Coming up after seven o'clock. We're going to chat to 375 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: Norman Ohler. He's an acclaimed novelist and screenwriter and you 376 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: may or may not have read his book Blitzed So Good, 377 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: which is about Nazis and the use of myth amphetamine 378 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: and well pre Second World War. 379 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, and during the Second World War, and that's 380 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: that was the that's why they had the blitz. Click 381 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: was just everyone was on myth so even arrived at 382 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: the same time. Everyone thought it was a strategy, but 383 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: it was just a bunch of meth heads turning up 384 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: for a fight. 385 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 5: Yeah. So so we're going to chat to Herman there. 386 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Also, he's got a new book out called Tripped Nazi Germany, 387 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: the CIA and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age. 388 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: This guy he loves talking about Nazis taking drugs. 389 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, was Hitler on LSD. We'll find out after seven 390 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: Matt and Jerry Show. 391 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 5: It's Mat and Jill me. 392 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 10: On Ready Lucky, It's Mad and jail Me Heath and 393 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 10: Wells Manding. 394 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 6: The Mass and Jerry Show podcast. The Mass and Jerry 395 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 6: Show podcast. 396 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 5: Nice to be coming this morning. I'm a Maten Jerry Show. 397 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 5: Winn't say. 398 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: The fourth of September twenty twenty four. 399 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 2: The term huge show is bandied about a lot when 400 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: it comes to the Mat and Jerry Brick for show 401 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: with Mashi. 402 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: But I feel like it's it's real today. I feel 403 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: like this really is a huge show. 404 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: What have we got? 405 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: Well a little later on and this is very very exciting. 406 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 5: Ruder, our executive producer. 407 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: Has unearthed some actual recordings of people going all the 408 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: way back to two hundred BC. Wow, here how English 409 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: came about how we speak the way that we speak? 410 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: So were they recorded with Flint and Stone? 411 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I think they had a digital 412 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 5: debt recorder. How did they going around? 413 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's taken a time machine back, gone through West Germanic, 414 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: Anglo Free Old English, Middle English, Late Middle English, early 415 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Modern English, and then Modern English, which is from eighteen 416 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: hundred to the present day. And you hear how it's 417 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: developed into how we speak now. It's very interesting. 418 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm very interested. 419 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 6: Then That and Jerry Show podcast. 420 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: So yesterday on the Daily Bespoke podcast, we talked to 421 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: Norman Ohler, acclaimed novelist and screenwriter. He's best known for 422 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: his book Blitzed Drugs in Nazi Germany, and he's followed 423 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: that book up with his latest one, Tripped Nazi Germany 424 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: the CIA in the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age. And 425 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: we began by asking Norman where the Nazi relationship with 426 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: LSD came from. 427 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 11: Well, the Nazis were very paranal with people that everyone 428 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 11: is against them and that the enemy is everywhere. That 429 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 11: feeling got stronger as the war went on because the 430 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 11: war obviously didn't go well for the Nazis, so they 431 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 11: suspected that, you know, they're more traders in their own ranks, 432 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 11: and then they had the idea. Yeah, the Gestapo and 433 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 11: the SS had the idea to develop what they call 434 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 11: the truth drug. They were very interesting in drugs from 435 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 11: the beginning. They try to actually find the truth drug, 436 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 11: like a drug you give to someone and then that 437 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 11: someone will tell you everything he or she knows without 438 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 11: you know, being able to hold anything back. So in 439 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 11: nineteen forty three, when also the assassination attempts to again 440 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 11: sit there were on the rise. 441 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: I mean it wasn't just one. 442 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 11: It was like many attempts on his life. So he 443 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 11: especially became extremely paranoid. And the search for the truth 444 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 11: drug was you know, the order was coming all the 445 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 11: way from the top, so what could be the truth drug? 446 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 11: Masculine was a candidate. They put drops of masculine in 447 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 11: coffee and then gave that to inmates and then when 448 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 11: you know, the drugs started to work, they would then 449 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 11: the as officer would then say things like, I know 450 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 11: that you are having very strange thoughts right now because 451 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 11: that can actually be into your mind right now, and 452 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 11: I think it's better if you reveal everything you know. 453 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 11: So they were trying to develop brainwashing techniques like that. 454 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 11: The problem with masculine was that it's bitter, so it's 455 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 11: not so easy to give it to someone without that 456 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 11: person knowing. And in forty three LSD was discovered in Switzerland, 457 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 11: which is quite close to Germany. And what I found 458 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 11: in the archives of the pharmaceutical company that discovered LSD, 459 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 11: which is Sundos, a Swiss company, they'll see always best 460 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 11: friends with the leading Nazi biochemists. They had been friends 461 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 11: since the twenties. They had been exchanging all their research 462 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 11: because they had had the same teacher, which was Rishad 463 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 11: villaged At, a Jewish German biochemist who won the Nobel Prize. 464 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 11: And he had these two students that were outstanding. One 465 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 11: was Stolen, who became pharmaceutical CEO in Switzerland and the 466 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 11: other one became Hitler's favorite biochemist. You know, that changed 467 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 11: in the twenties and early thirties was harmless. I mean, 468 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 11: it was just exchange between scientists. But in forty three 469 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 11: they have found this mysterious substance that they call LSD 470 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 11: lazurgic acid the ethylamide, which is working very intensely on 471 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 11: the mind. But they don't really know what it is 472 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 11: because the company didn't know in the beginning what LSD 473 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 11: was good for. 474 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: What does any truth summery serum exist? And did LSD 475 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: work as a truth serum at all? 476 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 11: The Nazis weren't sure because they had just started the test. Then, 477 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 11: you know, they lost the war and these initial reports, 478 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 11: but that the s S did with an evaluated by 479 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 11: the Americans by a Harvard professor who was the advisor 480 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 11: to the American military. Beacher was his name, Professor Beecher. 481 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 11: He wrote that LSD could very well become such a 482 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 11: truth drug if applied properly, you know, unwillingly, and with 483 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 11: the proper questionings and interrogation techniques. He wrote reports on 484 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 11: ego depressant drugs because that is what LD actually does. 485 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 11: It depresses the ego, which means the place in the 486 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 11: brain that kind of creates our reality and kind of 487 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 11: lets us function in day to day life receives less 488 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 11: energy when a person is on LSD, and other parts 489 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 11: of the brain actually become more active. Your brain opens 490 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 11: up to other possibilities, and if someone would be very skilled, 491 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 11: like a policeman or an intelligence officer, he or she 492 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 11: could try to, you know, use that situation to his 493 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 11: or her advantage. But you know, LSD is it's not 494 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 11: really a fool proof truth serum at all because usually 495 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 11: people can't really be interrogated anymore, like they've got to 496 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 11: develop their own thoughts, they realize what situation they are in. 497 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 11: So it never really worked. It was promising for the 498 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 11: intelligence services, first the Nazis and then the American but 499 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 11: it's never really worked as a truth serum because it's 500 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 11: actually quite the opposite. 501 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 6: Then Jerry Show podcast. 502 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: Topical Chain. 503 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yesterday on the Daily Bespoke podcast, we talked 504 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: to Norman Ola, clime novelist and screenwriting's based on for 505 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: his book Bletzed, which is about drugs and Nazi Germany, 506 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: and he's recently followed that up with Tripped Nazi Germany, 507 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: the CIA and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age. And 508 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 1: we asked Norman if the Nazis defeated themselves with their 509 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: massive fondness of the glass barbecue. 510 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 11: I mean, certainly the Nazis defeated themselves because it's a 511 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 11: self destructive regime that attacked the whole world. It's kind 512 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 11: of ridiculous, one country attacking every other country on the planet. Yeah, 513 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 11: I mean that country has to lose basically. But I 514 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 11: would say that the Allied forces were fighting white bravely, 515 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 11: and they were quite determined, and they had to be 516 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 11: determined because the problem with the Nazis was they were 517 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 11: so determined, like they were really going at it. So, 518 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 11: especially the it Is Resistance and the other countries that 519 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 11: fought together with Britain and the United States, just like 520 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 11: New Zealand for example, or Australia, they did a great job. 521 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 11: I mean they liberated also US in Germany from this 522 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 11: disease called national socialism, the meta phetamine. It really had 523 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 11: decisive effects early on in the war. It enabled the 524 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 11: Nazis to beat Poland and France very quickly. They would 525 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 11: never have been able to do that without methamphetamine. So 526 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 11: these early successes also led Hitler into believing that he's 527 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 11: basically unbeatable. It also led into the attack against the 528 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 11: Soviet Union. And if I just praised the Western Allies, 529 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 11: we certainly have to praise the Red Army for really, 530 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 11: you know, fighting the German Army on the horrific Eastern Front. 531 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 11: So I mean, just to attack the Soviet Union. It's 532 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 11: not rational, you know, it can only come out of 533 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 11: a drugged mind or like a paranoid mind, or you know, 534 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 11: it doesn't make sense. You know, the Germany was still 535 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 11: fighting in the West, hadn't beat a Great Britain yet, 536 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 11: and then attacking the Soviet Union. Many many mistakes were 537 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 11: done on the German side. Obviously, the whole thing was 538 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 11: horrible and could never have succeeded. And I think the 539 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 11: methamphetamine was just a small aspect of the German defeat. 540 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 11: The big aspect of the German defeat is, you know, 541 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 11: the hybrids of fascism and of national socialism. 542 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: In new book is called Tripped Nazi Germany, the CIA 543 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age. Norman, it's been 544 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: a great pleasure talking to you today. Thank you so 545 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: much for your time and best of luck with everything. 546 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 11: I want to come to New Zealand. I hope it's 547 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 11: going to work out next year for the I think 548 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 11: that's like a book thing in. 549 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: Auchest Writer's Festival. 550 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: Oh, you've got to come. You wouldn't believe how popular 551 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 2: your booker is down here. 552 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: If you come down, look us up. We're quite easy 553 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: to find as a very very small country. 554 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 5: But look us up and. 555 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 11: Be great to meet in your studio. 556 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take you out somewhere somewhere cool. 557 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 12: Thank you. 558 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: But you're heading over to Germany pretty soon. 559 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: Why don't you take him out some of the call 560 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 2: over there, Jerry, you're going to Oktoberfist, don't you wor 561 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: beer Fest or some are you going to? 562 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: Is that for South Bar Stadium? Is it a Munich No? 563 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 5: No, that's Munich, Yeah, Munich beer Fest. 564 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: Thanks Ultra you going to one one of them? 565 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: I don't know. 566 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: I think he was in Berlin. Isn't he long way 567 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: from Munich? Yeah, but you just get on the on 568 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: the fast train. 569 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 5: I think it's just down the road. 570 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, it doesn't take long to get between cities. 571 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 5: There. 572 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: You get on the auto barn, you drive it three 573 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: hundred kilometers. Now you'll be on the ways with Norman 574 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: oiler before you know. 575 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 576 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: I think I think the idea is that Norman shows 577 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: me around Jim and there. I'll show him around New Zealand. 578 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: I think there's the best way to go, rather than 579 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: me turn up over there and show him around his 580 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: own country and Norman, I think we should go here. 581 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: Now, we should go here. 582 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 8: Jeremy Wells The mad In Cherry Show at. 583 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: Seven thirty one time before your radio hodacting news headlines 584 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: with Jeremy Els. 585 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Two workers are in hospital after being electrocuted at Auckland's 586 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: Parnel train station earlier this morning. Both are in serious 587 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: condition and hospital one person of significant burns to their body. 588 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: There are major delays on all Auckland trains. 589 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that sounds horrific. 590 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: Christ Church should pursue more low scale sporting events instead 591 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: of the Commonwealth Games. That's what a feasibility report recommends 592 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: requested by Mayor Film Major ahead of making of a 593 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: bid for the twenty twenty the twenty thirty event, it 594 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: would cost at least one point three billion dollars to 595 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: hot and the rest. We've already done it as well. 596 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: We always had that where we had had that really 597 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: really successful Commonwealth Games and nineteen seventy five was it 598 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four, ninety seventy four, of course, because then 599 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: we had ninety nine, So we did seventy four and 600 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: then we did ninety to ninety ninety one, ninety Yeah, 601 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: the ninety nine, that's the this is the moment. 602 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Yep, we are together had one point three billion. Do 603 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: you think it would cost one point three billion? It 604 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: would cost a lot more than that. 605 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: And also do you really think the Commonwealth Games are 606 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: still going to be a thing in twenty thirty. They 607 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: can't hardly find someone to do it for the next 608 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: Conworth Games. You've already had someone pulling out because they 609 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: said it was going to cost How much did they 610 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: say it was going to cost in Australia it was 611 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: going to be Yeah, it was. It was in the billion. 612 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: It was three point eight billion or something. 613 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: That's why. I don't know where they've got this one 614 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 5: point three billion dollars. 615 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: From people make up these numbers in a number that 616 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: they think people will be able to stomach, knowing full 617 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: well that it'll just absolutely blow out. I'm looking at you, 618 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: Sittle City rail link. 619 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: And A lightning strike during Team New Zealand's race against 620 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Lunarosso brought an early end proceedings. 621 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 5: On day five of the Louis. 622 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: Vuitton Challenger Series, the Keywis suffered their first loss of 623 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: the round robins. They were disqualified for going more than 624 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: one hundred meters outside of the boundary during the final leg, 625 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: making the quick decision to exit the race after a 626 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: lightning bulb struck on the course just ahead of where 627 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: Luna Rossa was sailing. Well, the keys are just. 628 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: Doing it for fun anyway, because you know, there's no 629 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: point in getting blasted with lightning when you where you 630 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: get to challenge it the anyway they challenge you anyway. 631 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: You're just pisting around for a bit of a laugh, 632 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: aren't you. 633 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 12: He is. 634 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: I just got struck by lightning on Saturday morning. I 635 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: had an umbrella up. I felt it go through the 636 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: metal part of my umbrella that I was holding on to. 637 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: Really I felt it. I felt the charge. Yeah, ah, 638 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: you're the charge. 639 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. We didn't then zat me, but I felt it 640 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: must have been that close to me. 641 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: Did you retract the umbrella or did you just did 642 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: you decide to just keep not being rained on? I thought, 643 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: surely lightning's not going to strike me. Yeah, there's other 644 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: people with umbrellas that were standing up beside me. 645 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what won't won't strike here thunder. Thunder 646 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: does not strike. They've got this wrong here at ACDC. 647 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: It's lightning that strikes. 648 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 12: Now. 649 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 5: They need to go and have a chat to Dan 650 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 5: Corbett TV one with the men. 651 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: They've got their sums wrong here ac DC. 652 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 6: Then Matt and Jerry Show podcast. 653 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: It's for the seven thirty five AM Cell Help and 654 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: Health segment. We've got some bad news for you. This 655 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: is going to shock people. Alcohol is not great for you. No, 656 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: it turns out alcohol is bad for you, not just 657 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: because it's gonna do some damage to your liver, but 658 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: also man, she and I've noticed this in you. 659 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 5: It shrinks your brain. 660 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 13: Oh come on, man, you haven't noticed that in me? 661 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 13: What makes you think that I've got to sort my 662 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 13: brain that I used to have. 663 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: Well, what's making you dumber? If it's not the alcohol? 664 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 13: Okay, you foundas we'll just read this study. 665 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: So if you drink seven units per week, then your 666 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: brain will start to shrink. Okay, so that's seven standardrinks 667 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: and you think that's quite a lot, but no it's not. 668 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Actually it's three one hundred and seventy five milk glasses 669 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: of wine, three pints of four percent beer, or seven 670 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: single shots of spirits. How much will this rink? A 671 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: little bit or a lot? 672 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 5: Good question, good question? Not that much? 673 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: So that this is in their hippocampus. You know about 674 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: the parts of the brain hippocampis. Yep, that's the part 675 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: of the brain that's important for memory. So it's one 676 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: of the earliest regions affected by Alzheimer's. So that's if 677 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: that's the part of the brain that seems to be 678 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: affected by the booze. 679 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: Ah. 680 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, which is not really what you want now you 681 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 5: want to be able to remember things. 682 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: No, So some scientists now believe that alcohol kills our 683 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: brain cells, foreseeing the organ to become smaller and damaging 684 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: how it functions. Wow, and can you grow up back? 685 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: If you have charriacters, I think Timrek has whatt you want. 686 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: Something like that? 687 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Magic mushrooms grow it back. It found that people who 688 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: had more than seven yeares a week had a faster 689 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: decline and memory. This person said they act didn't amish 690 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: many ways as they could within a minute, beginning with 691 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: a specific letter. It's quite an odd dash that engages 692 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: the front part your brain. 693 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 5: For problems solving. 694 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Those who had more alcohol got worse faster. Al Right, okay, 695 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: pop quiz, hot shot? 696 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 13: How many drink should I be consuming each week? 697 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 5: Then? I mean, what how you say you're twenty five? 698 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 13: Yeah, twenty five? 699 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: Twenty five five a week? If you're twenty five, you 700 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: have twenty five a week? 701 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 5: Is that it? 702 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 9: So? 703 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 13: You boys are just mentioned about fifty beriverages a week. 704 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 13: I don't know if it's a great idea. 705 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that doesn't sound great. 706 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 5: No, No, that's the right. 707 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we are but. 708 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 7: Five No, hang on, I wasn't asking you to just 709 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 7: come up with a random number on your opinion. I 710 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 7: was asking you to say, is there a number on 711 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 7: the study. 712 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 2: That Yeah, he wasn't asking for your wrickens on how 713 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: I just thought you were asking me No, what I 714 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: should be doing is not as drinking as much as you. 715 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 13: That's very clear for this foremost Okay, you two both 716 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 13: always passed. But sign of how much? How many drinks 717 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 13: should I be having? 718 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 5: Three or four a vibe? 719 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: It's about three or four a week a safe amount. 720 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 13: Again, you seem to be making this up. 721 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 5: None, none, none. Have you made that up? 722 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 13: Or are you just reading this study? 723 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 5: None is a safe amount? 724 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 13: Okay, well there's one safe amount. 725 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: No none, so none? I can you should be having none? 726 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: Right? 727 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: None of drinks? 728 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: None? 729 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 13: Now are you looking in none for me as well? 730 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 13: This is pretty boring moving forward. 731 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna see how good my brainers aren't naming words. 732 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: Just beginning with a letter, I'm going to pick m machine, 733 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: mad Magazine, Magic Male, Main, Maine Mountain Major majority. 734 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: Okay, you're reading of AC I was reading this, so 735 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: you're reading it. That's one of the tests by reading 736 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: of a screen. Then you've been drinking too much alcoal. 737 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: Also, I failed to read them off a screen as well. 738 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: What does it mean? 739 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 5: Okay, this is another rubbish study. 740 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: All right, yeah, all right, scre you screw that up 741 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: and throw it out. Where was it? 742 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 6: See you laid up the Mat and Jerry Show podcast. 743 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: So English has often talked about as a very strange language. 744 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: It's a very hard language to learn. There are lots 745 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: of weird rules that have that don't make any sense. 746 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of that is because it was you know, 747 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: England is just off the coast of Europe and was 748 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: just invaded over and over and over again and taken 749 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: over by people. And the people will turn up and say, 750 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: you can't speak that language. He's he's a language speaking now, 751 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: And here's another one, and here's another one, and then 752 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: Viking are turning up and I have a period of 753 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: time that really turns it into a mongrel of an 754 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: old language. 755 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: And it certainly does. And I mean that's there's very 756 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: few languages around the world where even the people who 757 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: speak the language can't speak it and can't spell it. 758 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: And interestingly, English is one of the few languages in 759 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: the world where you can have spelling bees because everything 760 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: else can be sounded out exactly the same every single time. 761 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have a spelling bee and to do 762 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: on Maori, can you? Because the vowels work for the 763 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: for how you say it. 764 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: Exactly so ruder our executive producer has done some great 765 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: research here and he's gone back and he has actually 766 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: found some recordings of people through the ages speaking English, 767 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: and you can hear how it develops into how we 768 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: speak now, well, the New Zealand accent, that's a whole 769 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: other thing, yeah, but into the English accent which we 770 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: hear today. 771 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 2: And Mash has put on some tights and he's prancing 772 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: around playing a loot while we do it. 773 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 5: Great loop playing man. 774 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: Okay, so he is and two hundred BC to two 775 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: undred AD, so around about just before tw hundred years 776 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: before Jesus and turnity years after Jesus time. This is 777 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: what English would have sound like when it came from 778 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: its West. 779 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 5: Germanic roots Indes Midle with and okay, so there we go. 780 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 5: That's that's that's a long time. That's that's two thousand 781 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 5: years ago. 782 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: What was he saying? 783 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 5: Who knows? Now, here's the. 784 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: Here's when it was Anglo Friesian. This is two hundred, 785 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: four hundred years AD. 786 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 14: Incaspis Midler with. 787 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: Clea there was it So doesn't sound like English at 788 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: this stage. That sounds more Arabic. I think that sounds 789 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: a little bit like Scandinavian or something. Anyway, Now here's 790 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: Old English. This is where it starts to get a 791 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: little bit more like the English that we speak. So 792 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: this is from four hundred to eleven seventy. So if 793 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: you're around from four hundred to eleven seventy, you're in England. 794 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 14: This is what you're hear Incasperoda's medley with weaven and. 795 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 5: The sounding more like English. 796 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: Now though, isn't it not getting much of that? 797 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: No? 798 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. This is this is Middle English. 799 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: You'll understand some words in here, but it still sounds 800 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: completely different. 801 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 14: In the middle of the pabler accing to wolven drapes 802 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 14: upon the wall, there was a seed under a canope, 803 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 14: and there satellite, so. 804 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: There's seven cannopes at the there's the function, and there's 805 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: sat alerta you. So it sounds a little bit like 806 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: Irish and Welsh there so it sounds a little Gaelic. 807 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: That's from eleven fifty to fifteen forty. And and here 808 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: we go late Middle English. If you can pick up 809 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: some words here in. 810 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 14: The middle of the team, it comes to wolven cloths 811 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 14: upon the wall, there was a chair under a canopey 812 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 14: and there're satelada you fair to look upon? 813 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 2: Was this all the same sentence? Yes, So there said 814 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: a lady, there's a cloth on the wall. There's set 815 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: a lady under a canopy. 816 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 5: So you're getting it now. 817 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And here's early modern English. This is sixteen fifty 818 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: to eighteen hundred. 819 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 3: Hell apart in day the low inhered wayne slowly or 820 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: thely a ploment home word plods his weedy way and 821 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: leaves the world to darkness. 822 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're getting some stuff there. So is that 823 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: around that one is around Shakespeare? 824 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 12: Is it? 825 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: That is around Shakespeare? Sixteen fifty two eight hundred, and 826 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: he's modern English. Here is eighteen hundred to the present day. 827 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 14: In the middle of the table, against the woven cloths 828 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 14: upon the wall, there was a chair under canopy. And 829 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 14: that's had a lady fair to look upon. And so 830 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 14: like Christian form of woman, the king. 831 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: Oh a lady that was fear to look upon? Okay, 832 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 2: And he's like the sound of there's bill. English were 833 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: about to hit out for a what I call a 834 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: walk run. I'll walk up the hills and run the downhillberts. 835 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 5: Here we've got to this pot. 836 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 15: Yeah. 837 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 5: Well, actually people have got to spoken. 838 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: What this. Wow, what an evolution that is as a language. 839 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll come back around the other side of it. 840 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: How interesting. Thanks for that, Jeremy. 841 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 6: The Mart and Jerry Show podcast, The Mart and Cherry 842 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 6: Show Podcast. 843 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: It's Mad and Jerry, it's mask Jerry, it's not. 844 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 14: Jimmy much. 845 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: Yes, And it's Wednesday, the fourth of September twenty twenty four, 846 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: and it's nice to be with us this morning. That's 847 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: a good idea playing NBC games at high schools, isn't it? 848 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: Get good crowds there and excite a young generation to 849 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: get involved in the game. 850 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: I recently went along to the Auckland Final between Kelston 851 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: Boys and Saint Kent's College at Eden Park. At Eden Park, 852 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: the crowd, huge crowd, passionate crowd, bloody good rugby too. 853 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: You got to say that first fifteen rugby because they're 854 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: really good and they play with quite a good structure. 855 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: But then every now and then, because they're seventeen, sixteen, 856 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen year olds, they have a complete mind 857 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: explosure because you can't concentrate for eighty minutes. 858 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 5: There's no way. 859 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard enough for the All Blacks to 860 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: concentrate for eighty minutes, but you can't at that age. 861 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden someone does something completely insane 862 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: and the game just changes. 863 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 5: But they're always so close. 864 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this game was a really, really good game. Well, 865 00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: there's an ugment. 866 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: One of the problems with rugby unit moment as everyone's 867 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: too big and fast and good, and it means that 868 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: the field is too small for really exciting stuff to happen. 869 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: That's one of the arguments. 870 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, that's why I was saying before, 871 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 2: get rid of two of the players and make the 872 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 2: field wider. 873 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 5: That's what happens now. 874 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: I'll be saying it for the longest time. And I 875 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: chatted some players out of the weekend and they're saying 876 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. Bring back rucking. We got concussed 877 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: from rucking. Yeah that's true. It's true. I mean, and 878 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: you didn't want to be rucked, so you didn't want 879 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: to infringe. 880 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 6: Then Mat and Jerry Show podcast, So. 881 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 5: New Zealand's going to hell in a handbasket clearly. 882 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: So yesterday that some people have taken to social media 883 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: to share their thoughts about and you came out, came 884 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: out massage it's built as the perfect tool for relaxing 885 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: after a long day. 886 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: So it's long, yes, in curve, yes, well a little 887 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: bit at the end it vibrates. 888 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: It's a little bit like if you got a toothbrush. 889 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: You got to reach toothbrush. Yeah, and then you sort 890 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: of got the toothbrush head part and you bended a 891 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: little bit more. 892 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 5: But it's in. 893 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: It's black, and it's a bit smoother, and then it's 894 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: got a little knobby bit on the end. 895 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 2: It's listed in came Out Sports section. Features a small 896 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: gray bald head and not a bald head, like a 897 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: bald head like the shape of a ball. Yeah, not 898 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 2: like christ refluxe. No, you're not putting christ Reh Luxe 899 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: in anyway, I won't say that, and a long black 900 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: handle and is described on their website as something to 901 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 2: massage your shelter's neck and back, kill your kidd and 902 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: came out it's called the Luxe in two thousand. Is 903 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: that it your message your shelter's neck and back? Is 904 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 2: that the only place is your massage with them? I 905 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: feel like they're missing a place that some people might 906 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: massage with that. It's available for just ten dollars it 907 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: seems reasonable, but you are want to follow usage instructions carefully. 908 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: But recently there was there was the adult products that 909 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: were it's the chemist warehouse? 910 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: How's that? And people were absolutely outraged. Yeah, there was 911 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: that woman whose daughter saw a a a marital aid. 912 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: So the vibration massage of this is called ten bucks. 913 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: As you say, it's just landed at kmart. There's been 914 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: no reviews so far. 915 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 5: Hey, just respect to the marital aid. So do you 916 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,439 Speaker 5: have to be married to use those? Yeah? 917 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: Do you? 918 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 5: Of course? 919 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 2: Okay, well mate, you have to be married to be 920 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: getting amongst any of that stuff, don't you? Or if 921 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: we just moved on from that in marriages and people 922 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: are just going hammer and tongs before they're married, so 923 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: you hope not. 924 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: Some of the comments have been interesting. Damn came out 925 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: that's gonna sell? 926 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 5: Well? 927 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 2: What I would it be? Asking for a friend? This 928 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 2: is another person that likes posting ryosides A sweet Jesus? 929 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 5: Is this person? I had to check what group I Wasn't. 930 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: Anyone know if it's waterproof? 931 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: Asking there's a lot of asking for a friend, isn't there? 932 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: Where do you use it? 933 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,959 Speaker 5: Asking for a friend? 934 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? 935 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: What doesn't message because I've got a couple of ideas. 936 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 5: So you mesh, how does it work well for you? 937 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 5: Tim Bucks? 938 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 2: Tim Bucks? Yeah, I don't think you've got the bits 939 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: for it. No, I don't think you've got all the bits. 940 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 7: They haven't bought one. Oh okay, No, no, there was 941 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 7: some confusion around that. I just sent that that article 942 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 7: into the WhatsApp last night. I mean, come on, though, like, really, 943 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 7: back in knick and shoulders, are you sure about that? 944 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it would do much to the back 945 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: nick and shoulders. That bald head seems to be. Yeah, 946 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: it seems like it's got another function. 947 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: Tell you what. 948 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 2: I like the spider, the wire spider that you put 949 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 2: on your head and go up and down. 950 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know, yeah, I like that. The orgasmatron. 951 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: It's not got an matron. 952 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 2: It's called a it's got a wire spider you go 953 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 2: up and down. I think it's called a head message. 954 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: Hey. I had a friend who's kid found their message 955 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: and was messaging their face with it and saying, oh, 956 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: these are quite good, aren't they just feel quite good? 957 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: And they walked into the bedroom and they said, yep, no, 958 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: they're really good for face. 959 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 5: Massaging absolutely great. 960 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 13: Are you guys running in here. 961 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 11: One day? 962 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 5: One day he or she is going to go, oh whoa? 963 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 13: I mean, do you have any of these at home 964 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 13: that you've got to worry about being found? 965 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 5: Jerry or not? 966 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 9: No? 967 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 5: No, not for lux and I don't have a luck 968 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 5: in two thousand nonsense, not for the. 969 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 6: Mass and Jerry Show podcast. 970 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: So this November at four Soyth Bar Stadium, the Dunedin 971 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: Craft Beer and Food Festival is on again Friday the 972 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: eighth and Saturday the ninth of November. 973 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 5: It's a great time. 974 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: We're coming down. 975 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: Oh, we certainly are coming coming down and we're going 976 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: to be brewing. Let's get bizz bear with Emerson's again, 977 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: but this time we're like we did last time. She 978 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: we need your help deciding what style it should be 979 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: and joining us now from Dannet and the Airport. Emerson 980 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: Sales and marketing manager Greg Mendsay's morning, Greg, how are you? 981 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 15: Good morning? I'm very good, Thank you very much. 982 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so last year we made the let's get 983 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: busy hoppy lager, didn't we This year we're going to 984 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: make something different? 985 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 5: Is that the plan? 986 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 987 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 15: I think we will. Let's mix it up. I think 988 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 15: the name is really cool, so I think the style 989 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 15: should be what we what we change up this year? 990 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we shifted a lot of units of the Let's 991 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: get busy. I was pouring a lot Boy. We shifted 992 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: a lot of units of that last year. But I 993 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: think I think people aren't going to Nickel and dimos 994 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: if if it tastes different. 995 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 15: No, I don't think so. I think we'll make it. 996 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 12: It'll be better. I reckon we'll be way better. 997 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? 998 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 4: What what? 999 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 12: What? 1000 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 9: What? 1001 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on what kind of beer we 1002 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: could brew? 1003 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: This time? 1004 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: It was a hoppy lagger. 1005 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 15: Last time it was a hoppy lago. Last time. I 1006 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 15: thought we could kind of decide between like a pills 1007 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 15: and a style beer which is as a as a 1008 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 15: lager style but kind of more hot forward, using a 1009 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 15: different yease than we did in the in the hoppy 1010 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 15: lager that we did last year. We could try a porter, 1011 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 15: which is a dark beer. 1012 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 12: Will take enough? 1013 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: Will we shift enough units of a porter? I don't know. 1014 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 15: People decide on the style, then we'll move it. 1015 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 12: Yeah, we'll move it. 1016 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 5: We'll move it. 1017 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: Whatever they decide one, we'll shift it. Yeah, this time around, Greg, 1018 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: would it be good to I think we found out 1019 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: last time that possibly when Matt was down actually brewing 1020 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: that lugger, he maybe had COVID, So. 1021 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: Followed mission. I found out that I had COVID the 1022 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: next day. But I don't think any of that got 1023 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 2: into the beer. 1024 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 15: No, I don't think. 1025 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: So you cook it pretty it gets pretty hot in 1026 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: the air, it does, yeah, out of way in terms 1027 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: of Emerson, So I mean, what's the most part. 1028 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 5: What's the most popular style at the moment. 1029 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 15: The most popular style is still kind of like a 1030 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 15: hazy style beer. So the third style that we could 1031 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 15: choose from as a as a hazy Yeah, so that's yeah, 1032 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 15: it's pretty popular. 1033 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 2: That rolls off the tongue. But let's get hazy. 1034 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 15: It does sound very good. 1035 00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1036 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: Hey, I've got an apology to make to you. Well, okay, 1037 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 2: do you remember Greg when we were down for the 1038 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 2: when the All Blacks were playing England at for South 1039 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 2: Bar and after the game went to come along to 1040 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: the Emson's Bar. What a great establishment that is down 1041 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 2: there in Dunedin, And there was a big queue and 1042 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 2: I rang you and said, can you get me in 1043 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 2: advance so I don't have to wait and wait to 1044 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 2: get in, and you said, I'm at home in bed, 1045 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 2: please leave me alone. So I just want to I 1046 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 2: just want to apologize for trying to jump the queue 1047 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: with you there. 1048 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 15: That's right. I wasn't I wasn't quite in bed. I 1049 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 15: was at home, and I did make a phone call 1050 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 15: to the brewery to try and get you in. But 1051 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 15: I think when they see my number at that time 1052 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 15: of night, they know that I'm trying to get someone 1053 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 15: into the brewer, so they ignore me. 1054 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: I was with ex All Black Captain Karen Reid, and 1055 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 2: he's such a good guy unlike me that he said, no, Matt, 1056 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 2: we wait, we wait again. We want to name. 1057 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dropped his name. I said, I'm with I'm 1058 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: I'm with Karen, buddy Reid. 1059 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: Can you let us send it? 1060 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 3: Was? It was? 1061 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 12: It was? 1062 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 2: It was pretty cold out there. I believe it was 1063 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: raining back. Good on you for not for not allowing 1064 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 2: me to try and sort of get an inside there. 1065 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 15: I could have come down to my pajamas and yeah, 1066 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 15: it's not a. 1067 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: Very deneeding way to behave as it. Hey, Greek Men'si's 1068 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: Emerson sales and marketing manager. Thanks for your time this morning. 1069 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: We'll get back to you and and confer on where 1070 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: we're going with this. So let's get bizzbre soon. 1071 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 15: Looking forward to seeing you guys in November. 1072 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 5: All right, thanks Greer, good to talk to you. 1073 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: So last year was a hobby lager. 1074 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 5: What should it be this year? 1075 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: Tell us what you think? 1076 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 5: Head to Hicky dot codot MZI. You could end up 1077 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 5: at the. 1078 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: Duned and Craft Beer and Food Festival thanks. 1079 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 6: To Emersons The Mats and Jerry Show podcast coming. 1080 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: Up after the eight thirty news headlines, todd Esleigh joins 1081 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: us former new Zione cricket to todd esliyh. That's not 1082 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: how you pronounce his name, you Well, we'll be asking 1083 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: me how do you pronounce your surname? 1084 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 5: Is it Eslayh? 1085 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 13: Well, I'm going to save you the trouble. 1086 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 5: It's Estel. 1087 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 13: You don't have to ask him that. You can just 1088 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 13: ask anyone else. 1089 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 2: Jerry Essentially when he was on what was that? 1090 00:48:59,520 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 5: What was there? 1091 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 2: See nickname for him? 1092 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 5: Eric Trump? 1093 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he used to wear the glasses. 1094 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: He's a great man and I'm hosting his Better Man 1095 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 2: events down in chriss Chitch. 1096 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1097 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: So that's a charity that aims to improve men's well 1098 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: being and mental health. 1099 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 12: Is that right? 1100 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1101 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: Great New Zealand? Is it better? 1102 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 2: Man? So next Friday, I believe I'm going to be 1103 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 2: in cross Church chasting that along with Eric Trump. 1104 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: And also and also who's the worst type of airline passenger? 1105 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 1: A former flight attendant has revealed who it is? 1106 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,479 Speaker 5: Oh, and is it me Mash or Matt? 1107 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: Surely it's that person. 1108 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 2: That we did a story along about not so long 1109 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 2: ago that had that explosion as that were walking down 1110 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 2: the aisle. 1111 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 5: That's going to be to turn that plane around. They 1112 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 5: did that. 1113 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 2: It was a disaster. 1114 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: Matt and Jerry show Ready, how do. 1115 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: You it's mat jer. 1116 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: It's not Jeruf, Matty, Jaimy Well. 1117 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 8: Matty, Jeremy Wells the Maiden Cherry Show. 1118 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: It's eight thirty one. 1119 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 2: Time for your radiohodaking news headlines with Jeremy Wells. 1120 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: There are significant delays on all Auckland train lines this 1121 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: morning after two workers were electrocuted at Parnal train station. 1122 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: Both workers are in hospital, with one with significant burns 1123 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: to their body. Of terrorism experts says New Zealanders need 1124 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: to be more aware of the threat of terrorism. The 1125 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: New Zealand Security Intelligence Service has found that a person 1126 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: acting alone is our biggest terrorist risk. 1127 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well there's someone out there vaping by themselves 1128 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: do we need to be worried about? Then they seem 1129 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: to be eating a line out in the alleyway just 1130 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 2: outside there. Shall we call it in? 1131 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: And Brenda McCallum will become England's new white ball men's 1132 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: cricket coach from January, in addition to his current red 1133 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: ball d BES. McCallum has agreed to a deal up 1134 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: till the next fifty over World Cup in South Africa 1135 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven. He'll guide the Test squad through 1136 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: to England's next home ashes campaign also that year. 1137 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 2: Think you'd be making a good coin from that, A 1138 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 2: good South and Eden boy. I always thinking about Brenda mccum. 1139 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: He's such a great guy. Everyone loves some fantastic person, 1140 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 2: real team leader, but also like a dart smoking horse 1141 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 2: race enthusiast. You know, you can take the boy out 1142 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 2: of South and Edium. You can't take the South indianaut 1143 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: of the boy. But just operating the most upper echelons 1144 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 2: of British cricket, which is at the top end of 1145 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 2: British cricket, is so snooty and so you know top 1146 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 2: and tails and gin and tonic and wax mustache. 1147 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1148 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: Oh the MCC Yeah, the mc C, the MCC with 1149 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: those ridiculous blazers. 1150 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 2: It's Stephen Friestill, the head of the MCCUs. He yeah, 1151 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 2: I think he was for a while. Oh okay anyway, 1152 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: and then just random come and you just get like 1153 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 2: someone growing up in South and Edins to just be 1154 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 2: the top of English crickets. Phenomenal, isn't it. 1155 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah. 1156 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 1: And also they are a hard crowd to win over. 1157 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, out lot. Yeah, but they are a hard crowd. 1158 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 5: They've been around for a long time. They got their 1159 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 5: own traditions. But they love him because the type of cricket. 1160 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: That he's brought to England, particularly around Test cricket. 1161 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 5: It's very exciting. 1162 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: Bears ball Mark Nicholas as the current president of the MCC, 1163 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 2: the former Hampshire captain who has succeeded Stephen Frye on 1164 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: the first of October twenty twenty three. 1165 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: The funniest thing is those guys that sit there at 1166 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: Lord's and then they have lunch up up in the 1167 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: members area and then they just go down and sleep 1168 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: all afternoon. Yeah, in a stripe jacket or the weird tie. 1169 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it and big muffs. 1170 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 6: Then that and Jerry Show podcast. 1171 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: So he's played for the Black Captain Tests One Day 1172 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: Internationals T twenties as well. He's also got the most 1173 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: first class wickets for Canterbury three hundred and three wook 1174 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: workers for Canterbury from twenty and five to twenty nineteen. 1175 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: And now he's the co founder of a Better Man, 1176 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: a charity that aims to improve men's well being and 1177 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: mental health and help them become better versions of themselves. Please, 1178 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: welcome to the Mat and Jerry Show. Todd asked or 1179 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: Morning Todd. 1180 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 12: How are you morning, gentlemen? Very well, thank you, thanks 1181 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 12: for having me on. 1182 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: So I see that you've got an event coming up 1183 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: called Quiz and some other Shiz Friday, September thirteenth, and 1184 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: Matt is the guest speaker slash quiz Master. 1185 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 5: That's right. 1186 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 9: He's kindly agreed to come down and help us out, 1187 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 9: which is amazing to have someone. 1188 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 12: Of his caliber. How many people His good friend came 1189 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 12: last year. So yeah, it's awesome to have me. 1190 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 2: He's Scotti Stevenson's good Oh boy, Well, I see that. 1191 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: You know the better man. I'll tell us about better Man. 1192 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 2: What is better man? Todd? 1193 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll After playing sport for so long and co 1194 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 9: founding it with another form of ffessional rugby player Ji 1195 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 9: Robinson and my brother, we all just wanted to bring 1196 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 9: those best parts to team sport. It's around that sort 1197 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 9: of culture and connection and so bringing people together to 1198 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 9: be able to have fun, but also to layer in 1199 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 9: those aspects of well being and mental health, which guys 1200 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 9: traditionally don't do that well, and we're people that just 1201 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 9: love being able to do that and having done that 1202 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 9: over the last year, it's been amazing that the growth 1203 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 9: and how much enjoyment we've got from it. 1204 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: And what are the core principles of better Man, Well, Jerry, 1205 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: you'd love it. 1206 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 9: It's b YC, so not backyard cricket, but betterment yarns, competition. 1207 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 9: It's always about that sort of growth and improvement. It's 1208 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 9: then being open and having conversations and creating those environments 1209 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 9: and then competition. 1210 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 12: So we've come from a place. 1211 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 9: Of competing, so we just always try to add those 1212 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 9: layers and just to kind of create that fun which 1213 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 9: is what people you know, they relate to and it 1214 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 9: brings people into those events. 1215 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: So betterment, Yep, I'm getting better yarns. I've got great yarns. 1216 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 2: Competition not so great. They never want anything my life. 1217 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 2: So I guess some of us can be two out 1218 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: of three. 1219 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 12: Curtis three ain't bad, mate, we'll gladly have you. We're 1220 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 12: coming down where we're really looking forward to it. 1221 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So what's happening at quiz and some other shizz? 1222 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, well, so it's a bit of a twist on 1223 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 12: a traditional quiz night. 1224 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 9: We're fortunate that Jed's brother owned a quiz company, so 1225 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 9: we can hater the quiz and make it fun and enjoyable. 1226 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 12: And then we also have Matt sort of. 1227 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 9: Sharing a bit more of a deeper meaningful and giving 1228 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 9: people permission to kind of share their stories as well, 1229 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 9: which is what's gott He did last year and really 1230 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 9: kicked off things for us, and he's now our patron 1231 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 9: on our board, which is amazing. And so yeah, Matt's 1232 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 9: got big shoes to fill, but I'm sure he can 1233 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 9: certainly do that. 1234 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: Oh no, I can't, but look I'll give it. I'll 1235 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: give it a good old key. 1236 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 5: We try to Tesla. 1237 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,439 Speaker 1: I'm also seeing that you're finalizing just in the last 1238 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: stages there of this T twenty charity match between better 1239 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: Man and November at Hagley Oval under lights. 1240 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 5: Will you be playing in that game? 1241 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: Yes? 1242 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 9: I will, Yeah, and we'll be handpicking some team, so jerremy, 1243 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 9: if you want to put your name forward, look, we'll 1244 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 9: be going through some of those selections shortly. 1245 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit rusty, particularly concerned about the bounce 1246 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: at Hagley over as well. I don't really like the shortball, 1247 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: anything whizzing through anything above sort of waist tight. 1248 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 5: I struggle with. 1249 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, it'll be amazing too because it'll be under lights 1250 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 9: on the Test wicket following the England Test match, So yeah, 1251 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 9: amazing to have the opportunity and to be able to 1252 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 9: raise money yet for a better Man in November as 1253 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 9: a charity match will be amazing. 1254 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 12: To have that to the early December this year. 1255 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 2: Well, I'll be remiss if I didn't mention the ACC eleven, 1256 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 2: our cricket team that is winless over six years of 1257 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 2: six years of play. 1258 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: We played a game at Bay Oval the ACC eleven 1259 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: and somehow managed to drop eleven catches and we didn't 1260 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,240 Speaker 1: take one. We didn't take one counting. Is that a record? 1261 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: And a t twenty eleven cat I don't think there's 1262 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: any side anywhere in the world has ever dropped eleven 1263 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: catches and not to go and some of them were 1264 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: absolute dollies. 1265 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 12: That is impressive. I don't know if you could do 1266 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 12: it again if you tried. 1267 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but at least we may eleven chances. 1268 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, you're right? 1269 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 12: Health myself, right, so you get the cricketer secondary. 1270 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: There was no health in that team though, was there? 1271 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 2: There was the one point where there was three people 1272 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: chasing after the ball and all went down with injuries and. 1273 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: Absolute disaster. Tight astell. Thanks for your time this morning, 1274 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: quizz and some other shoes. 1275 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 2: And in we can get where we can people get 1276 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 2: tickets to this quiz and some other shoes. 1277 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, hit to our website Bitterman dot org dot in 1278 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 9: ZID just to check more about us to find tickets, 1279 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 9: but also if you want to support or you get 1280 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 9: behind their initiative, would be amazing. 1281 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: Thanks Todd, best of Blake with everything. 1282 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 12: Thanks guys, appreciate your time. 1283 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: Mat and Jerry Show Radio. 1284 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 6: Head and Matt and Jerry Show Podcast. 1285 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: So a hostess has come out flood ten. It's come 1286 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: out and disclosed the worst type of passenger, according. 1287 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 5: To them and their friends who also work in the industry. Okay, 1288 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 5: this is going to reckon. 1289 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: They reckon the worst type of people that you ever 1290 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: have to deal with on a flight, not surprisingly as influencers. 1291 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: Oh, influencers are the worst type of people that you 1292 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 2: have to deal with everywhere an influencer. 1293 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 5: Influencers are other worse. But is it partly because as well? 1294 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: I think they say that they oftentimes are getting cheap 1295 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: flights via the airline, and so there's an entitlement there. 1296 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 2: The main problem lies in the roots, Like this is 1297 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 2: what the woman said Sky Taylor. She said, the main 1298 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 2: problem lie in the roots, like Dubai in Vegas, where 1299 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 2: you get the influencer types who maybe haven't paid full price. 1300 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: They can be quite. 1301 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 2: Difficult, she says. Taylor added that she believed the consumption 1302 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 2: of our coalmode things worse as they made. 1303 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 1: Influencers act out of character. 1304 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she said influencers are rude. Well that's interesting. 1305 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: Well, a couple of months ago, there was an influencer 1306 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: who caused a bit of an outrage, didn't they because 1307 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: they appeared to tell a traveler that they'd take two 1308 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: minutes in the plane toilet, and then they spent fifteen 1309 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: minutes making a video in the plane toilet doing a 1310 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: like a skincare. 1311 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 5: Regime, a four step skincare regime. 1312 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: You just open the exit door and throw that person out, 1313 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah, And that the video was captioned ops, 1314 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: but it's clearly not ops. Yeah. Right, And so I 1315 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: think a person was called Kate Elizabeth and she's standing 1316 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: in an aeroplane bathroom looking in the mirror, and the 1317 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: text across the video says, I told the woman in 1318 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: the Q I'd be two minutes. And then there's a 1319 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 1: timer at the bottom which is going along and it 1320 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: gradually counts up to fifteen minutes, so she completes her 1321 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: beauty treatments. 1322 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: What an ahole. 1323 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 5: It's so annoying. 1324 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 2: There needs to be an influencer list, Like, so if 1325 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 2: you have been called influencing, you get put on a 1326 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 2: list and you're not allowed to fly or book into hotels. 1327 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 5: Or own a phone or own a phone. 1328 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get put on the influencer list. 1329 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 5: And I can't run a burner. Maybe. 1330 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 2: Taylor also explained that celebrities who are often criticized for 1331 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 2: exhibiting entitled tenants feared much better than influencers. I think 1332 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 2: if you're looking at superstars and people who can afford 1333 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 2: their tickets, they generally were lovely people and very respectable. 1334 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 5: There you go. 1335 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: So it's the people that I mean. 1336 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 2: You get these stories all the time where influencers will 1337 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 2: contact a hotel and they'll say, do you want to 1338 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 2: do a collab with me? You know, and then the 1339 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 2: restaurant of the hotel say what do you bring you know? 1340 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 2: And the influence go, well, we can bring you, you know, 1341 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 2: my seventeen and a half thousand followers on Instagram, and 1342 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 2: the hotel goes, well, why would I give you two 1343 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of stuff just to help you out? 1344 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1345 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: And then what the influencer then does if they don't 1346 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: get the deal, then they go out and then they 1347 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: try and shaft the person who said no to the deal. 1348 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1349 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 2: And then the person that says no to the deal 1350 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: then releases the interactions and the entire world falls down 1351 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 2: on the head of the influencer. That's all works. 1352 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: The system works, yep, the system works. Yeah on them, 1353 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Thanks very much for listening to the Matt and Jerry 1354 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: Show Today Had a Lovely Day podcast is going to 1355 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: be out at eleven am. Lisa Carrington is going to 1356 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: be on the podcast The Goat in the Boat. We 1357 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: got in the Boat Dame Lisa, the Little Lady of 1358 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: the Lake. 1359 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. 1360 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 2: She's won quite a few gold medals. She bringing them 1361 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 2: all in and a bronze I don't know. 1362 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 5: She brings in her meddles. Also, she's written a. 1363 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: Book, has she? Yeah, welln't she have trying to write 1364 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:21,919 Speaker 2: a book. 1365 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's following in your footsteps. She was inspired by you. 1366 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: She's inspired a lot of New Zealanders. But you've inspired 1367 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: one of our greatness. Well, mate, you know what. 1368 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 2: Her dog's name is Hall Colin. Okay, so she's written 1369 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 2: a book over in the book. She's got a dog 1370 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 2: called Colin. She's got a husband called Bucky. 1371 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 13: A lot of her husband called Bucky. 1372 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Yep, got a little hobby called Bucky. Know about you 1373 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: every Day Matt and Jerry Show Radio had a kid. 1374 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 3: That is the breakfast show. Wow, Yeah, it's Mad and 1375 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 3: Jerry from six night. 1376 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 2: You have been listening to the Matt and Jerry Radio 1377 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 2: Highlights pod. Right now you can listen to the other 1378 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 2: Daily Bespoke pod, which you will absolutely love anyway, set 1379 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: to download, like, subscribe, write a review, all those great things. 1380 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: It really helps myself and Jerry and to a lesser extent, 1381 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 2: Mash and Ruder. 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