1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Is it getting better if I could just get across 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: one thing. It's about time lags. So if you look 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: at something like the Resource Management Act, I mean, I 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: would say probably the biggest drag on raising productivity, making 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: more money and being good environmental custodians in this part 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: of the world, and I've just sat down with two 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: dozen farmers is the Resource Management Act. So what are 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: we doing about that? Well, we are just about, after 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: nearly two years of really intense work to basically wrap 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: up the whole thing, start from a blank page and 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: make a new law based on property rights. We're just 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: about to introduce that to Parliament and before the next 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: selection it will have gone through the six month process 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: and it will be in law. So people will say, well, 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: you know, what are you doing? But the reality is that, 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: you know, I was the old Mainland ad used to 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: say good things take time, but actually to go from 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: go to woe two and a half year's whole new RMA, 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: it's not too bad. 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: Do we maybe not manage expectations as well as we 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: could have, in the sense that there was a lot 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: of buzz like, ay, you know this is going to 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: be the government to turn things around a lot of 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: big promises, but here we are sort of, you know, 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: two years into things and a lot of people are thinking, 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: you know what, it still feels pretty tough out there, man. 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, time lags, right, So we started the 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: work to get the spending under control in November December 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, brought down our first budget in May 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four our second budget this may. All of 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: that work is now paying off, but it's just starting 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, you know, they're getting their 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: first mortgage rate cut now after two years work. Then 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: they start spending some of that money, maybe they save 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: and invest it. Then you get the economics to it. 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: So I know it must be frustrating for the likes 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: of yourself. 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: It is. But all I'm trying to say to people 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: is that there is actually I understand how they feel, 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: but I also believe that we are doing the right thing. 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: How do you square that circle? Well, you know, I've 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: just sort of gone through pretty painfully the time lag 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: that's involved. 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you read on mid Canterbury in 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: particular the other parts of the country. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty hard not to be upbeat driving in here. 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I came landed in christ Church and started 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: driving down early this morning. And you know, you've got 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: a big blue sky, You've got a downtown that looks 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: busy and bustling, and everything looks occupied. Now. I may 51 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: not have seen everything yet, but it looks like that. 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: To each other. A couple of days ago we had 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: our market day on that would have impressed. 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: I would love a good farmer's market, do you yeah, yeah, 55 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: go to one most weekends. Actually. Then you know, I 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: talked to a bunch of people, like I said, a 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: few dozen farmers I just sat down with, and overwhelmingly 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: the story from them is, look, these are real problems, 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: but we can isolate those, look for solutions and focus 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: on the positive stuff as well. And that just in 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: terms of a stance or a mindset, man, that's pretty 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: uplifting and New Zealand can deal with a bit of 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: that thinking right now