1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Now the ACT parties put a bit of a spanner 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: in the works. Read the proposed greyhound racing band. The 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Select Committee reporters come in. They want the bill to 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: be passed, but Act has some concerns and it's the 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: MP Cameron Luxton, who sat on the Select Committee, is 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: with us High. 7 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Cameron, Hey, get our afternoon, Heather. 8 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: What are your concerns? 9 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Well my concerns and that party concerns and that thousands 10 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: of soles to the Earth kiwis are having their livelihoods 11 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: and the greyhound industry and the community around it ended it. 12 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: They feel like Wellington just doesn't understand them and they're 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: losing their industry through no fault of their own. It's 14 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: quite unfortunate and I think it needs to be addressed. 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: Hence why written the alternate view in the Select Committee 16 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: report back. 17 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: And your alternate view is that the industry should not 18 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: be completely shut down. 19 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: No, it's saying we need to address safety concerns properly, 20 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: but also an industry who's being shut down should be consulted. 21 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: If the state or the government is going to take 22 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: the step of shutting down an industry, it should only 23 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: be doing that. If regulation isn't working. Well, that's not 24 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: what was happening in this case. The industry invest Yeah, 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: the industry had invested heavily in the last few years. 26 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: They've put they've done a whole lot of things to 27 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: try and meet standards that have be set on them, 28 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: and the Racing Integrity Board says they met or exceeded 29 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: all the measures placed on them. So if you're going 30 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: to close down an industry, you better make sure regulations 31 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: are not being complied with and if you feel like 32 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: you need to put more and maybe do that. I 33 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: don't go and close an entire industry without actually doing. 34 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: A complying with the Cameron. But there was still what 35 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: would obviously deemed to be unacceptable levels of dog deaths. 36 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: Is that what happened? 37 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, what happened is an industry got blindsided with a 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: closed down and that's the situation we're in. We've got 39 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: a bill in the House with it was a bit 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: of surprise for the industry when it came in. There's 41 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: no compensation regime. And look, if you're going to be 42 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: taking the private property of a lawfully acting industry basically 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: leaving its asse, it's worthless. You have to have some 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: method to make sure that the loss has been accounted for. 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: I think it needs some compensation. And also the precedent 46 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: that you know X stood up for the firearm owners 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: when the buy the gun buybacks were in place and 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: said is this fair? Well, this is a precedent for 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: the for this racing code with with greyhounds. Is it fair? 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Are we setting a good precedent here? Are we consulting 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: properly upfront? Are we providing a compensation ranging that makes sense? 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: And are we actually meeting the needs of the of 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: the greyhounds when it comes to rehoming? 54 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: What would the compo be? 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: Look, I don't We had numbers thrown around at Select Committee, 56 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: but really that work hasn't hasn't really been done, so 57 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: it's hard to say. But the good news Select Committee 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: did make an amendment to allow what was originally designed 59 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: in the plant in the proposal to allow overseas betting 60 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: on greyhounds. Now, some people said that was not right 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: because it was you knowposing down betting in New Zealand 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: but allowing it on overseas greyhounds. But the revenue from 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: those overseas betting could still be used for rehoming and 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 2: closed down and even compensation, So you know there isn't 65 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: it's not like this is this is a completely there's 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: no revenue that could be used. There is a piece 67 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: of revenue that the Select Committee saw saw fit to 68 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: include in the amendments to this bill. 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Mate, what are we going to do with the sixteen 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: hundred dogs that need to be rehomed? 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's a good question. You know, we've got the 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: SPCA and the Ministerially Ministerial Advisory Committee, the MAC committee. 73 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: You know, they say that there's a large scale challenge 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: that they've got ahead of them, but you know that 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: that is a concern and so. 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Realistically a whole bunch of those dogs have to be 77 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: put down. 78 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: Right, I pray not greyhounds of beautiful animals. I was 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: patting one couple of hours ago, amazing things. I would 80 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: hope that wouldn't happen. But look, we've got we've got 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: a tight time frame to this closed. I'm sure that 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure that people are working hard on that. Yeah, 83 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: but you know, tight timeframes are tight time frames, and 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: perhaps we should be looking at whether a shutdown on 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: the first of August and what is that four and 86 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: a bit months away? Whether that is the right thing. 87 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Cameron, thanks for talking us to talking to us 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: about it. I appreciate us. Cameron Luxton of the AX Party, 89 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if you realize this, but New Zealand's 90 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: only animal blood bank is in jeopardy of closing down 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: because they get a lot of their blood from the 92 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: greyhounds and the greyhound industry. So if you don't have 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: the greyhound industry anymore, all of a sudden, you've got 94 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a problem, an't you. 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 96 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: news talks. 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 98 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.