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Speaker 1: Right, France. Catherine Field, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: Let me on, let me just get her at you.

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Speaker 1: A couple of quick questions reno government, there's a caretaker

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Speaker 1: government in place. Are people happy with the caretaker government?

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Speaker 1: Are the ongoing and urgent talks to try and get

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Speaker 1: a new government and of those ongoing and urgent talks,

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Speaker 1: are people genuinely enthused to form a new government or

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Speaker 1: are we just happy with the status quo?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, sent a lot of questions off the bat

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Speaker 2: there like, oh well, if you'd asked me about an

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Speaker 2: hour ago, I would have said, yeah, people are kind

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Speaker 2: of going along with it. But just in the last

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Speaker 2: hour we've had an announcement from French President Emanuel mac

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Speaker 2: Crome that these talks that he's been holding on Monday

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Speaker 2: and last Friday with all the representatives of the political

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Speaker 2: parties in the National Assembly have actually come to nothing,

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Speaker 2: that this paralysis is continuing. These two days of talks

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Speaker 2: about who will back who and who will be acceptable

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Speaker 2: and who will be tolerated has come to absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 2: So we're back to square one. He has said there's

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Speaker 2: no clear majority for someone from the far left or

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Speaker 2: even the respectable left because they are a minority that

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Speaker 2: there's nowhere of going forward there. So yeah, we have

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Speaker 2: got nowhere. The current government is kind of like but

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Speaker 2: everyone's still in this post Olympic buzz. It might people

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Speaker 2: are still very happy, some are still here. No one's

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Speaker 2: really woken up to the fact that this country does

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Speaker 2: need to have a government, and that a caretaker government

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Speaker 2: is quite restrained in the constitution. It can't, for example,

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Speaker 2: do any budget negotiations, can't change any laws. It really

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Speaker 2: can just be a caretaker. So we were all expecting

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Speaker 2: the President to come up with something, you know, within

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Speaker 2: the last hour, to say he decided on a new

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Speaker 2: prime minister, but he hasn't. He's now going to have

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Speaker 2: another day of talks with other parties from the center

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Speaker 2: right and a few of the hopefully center left. He

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Speaker 2: says he will talk about that, but then, of course

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday we've got the start of the Paralympics, so

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Speaker 2: he'll be busy with that all day, and then he's

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Speaker 2: going to Serbia on a visit for two days at

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Speaker 2: the end of the week. So I don't know when

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Speaker 2: he's going to come up with any ideas on a

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Speaker 2: new prime minister. I'm afraid, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll ask you. This is why you're on

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Speaker 1: every Tuesday. We'll ask you next Tuesday. Meantime, this bloke

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Speaker 1: they've nabbed Durov? Where does this go? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: it the French You've nabbed him on instruction from others

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Speaker 1: or the French just nabbed them because they want to

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Speaker 1: do and what are they going to.

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Speaker 2: Do with them? Okay, this is Pavel Durov, this Russian

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Speaker 2: born billionaire who's the co founder of Telegram, which has

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Speaker 2: some nine hundred and fifty million monthly users on an

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Speaker 2: encryption networks. Actually the French who have nabbed him, Mike.

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Speaker 2: They are operating on a complaint from Organized Crime unit

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Speaker 2: here in France. Essentially, what they're saying is that his

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Speaker 2: platform has failed to regulate what is going on, and

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Speaker 2: on top of that, it has can tenually refuse to

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Speaker 2: cooperate with the authorities. In particular, they are saying that

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Speaker 2: Telegram has enabled illicit transactions, that is you, organized crime fraud.

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Speaker 2: It has allowed the dissemination of child pornography. It has

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Speaker 2: also promoted terrorism, and they said that because they haven't

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Speaker 2: put in place any of the mechanisms for monitoring that,

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Speaker 2: for regulating who goes on, for actually stopping the sort

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Speaker 2: of activity that he is liable for it. So the

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Speaker 2: Paris prosecutor just a couple of hours ago said the

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Speaker 2: investigation will be going on too, that he will still

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Speaker 2: be held in custody here in Paris until at least Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: So that's at least another forty eight hours. And it's

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Speaker 2: just a way of, they say, showing that they do

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Speaker 2: need to take this fight against crime social media much

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Speaker 2: more seriously, and in particular child sexual abuse material that

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Speaker 2: gets disseminated on these networks exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, Good catch up, Catherine or scene next you say,

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Speaker 1: Catherine Field out of France verse this morning. For more

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