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Speaker 1: The jury has just finished the first day of deliberations

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Speaker 1: in the murder trial against Philip Polkinghorn. They asked to

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Speaker 1: hear two pieces of audio. The first was his one

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Speaker 1: one one call he sobbed loudly when it was replayed

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Speaker 1: in court, and the second was the secret recording of

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Speaker 1: Pauline Hannah's conversation with her immediate family. Be honest, I've

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Speaker 1: considered just chucking myselve over. I don't want to do that. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know either.

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Speaker 2: But actually I love my husband, but he is somebody

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Speaker 2: who is very angry with the world when the world

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Speaker 2: doesn't go his way.

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Speaker 1: Harold. Journalist Michael Morraw is with us from the High

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Speaker 1: Court in Auckland. Hay, Michael, get a head the here

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Speaker 1: go and well thank you. How upset was Philip Polkinghorn

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Speaker 1: when I was listening to that one one one call?

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Speaker 2: Well, he was so upset that the judge had to

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Speaker 2: call for the proceedings to be put on hold. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: it was near the ending of that recording, the triple

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Speaker 2: one call, and Pulkinghorn, who's not in the dock but

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Speaker 2: position behind his lawyer Ron Mansfield, started crying pretty loudly.

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Speaker 2: He hunched over with his head in his hands, tissue

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Speaker 2: over his face, and yeah. The judge called for a

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Speaker 2: break in proceedings and a security guard lead Polkinghorn out

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Speaker 2: into a room out the back of the court, and

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Speaker 2: his lawyer, Ron Mansfield followed. After he'd composed himself. We

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Speaker 2: heard that second recording which had just played, in which

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Speaker 2: Pauline described her husband as a sex fiend and who

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Speaker 2: was seeing escorts. And she described this in the recording

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Speaker 2: as his malfunction and said, as you heard, that Polkinghorn

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Speaker 2: was an angry man, but that she still loved him.

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Speaker 2: And during this recording again Polkinghorn sat at the back

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Speaker 2: of the court with his head buried in his hands.

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Speaker 1: Any indication as to why they wanted to hear that

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Speaker 1: audio the jury.

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Speaker 2: There was no explanation given in court, but it was

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Speaker 2: signaled from early on that they wanted to hit these

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Speaker 2: two pieces of audio again. I guess it's because A,

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Speaker 2: it's Pauline speaking about her husband and doctor Polkinghorn speaking

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Speaker 2: as soon as he says he found her body.

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Speaker 1: Is this a complex case? A We're expecting them to

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Speaker 1: take quite a while with the deliberations or not.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a it's a relatively complex case and that

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Speaker 2: the Crown's case is circumstantial. So the jury has to

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Speaker 2: has to look at this case because the onus is

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Speaker 2: on the crown right and so they have to be sure.

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Speaker 2: They can't be they can't think it's likely or even

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Speaker 2: highly likely, that he's murdered his wife. They need to

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Speaker 2: be sure about this. And because it's a circumstantial case,

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Speaker 2: the crown case is built on multiple pieces of evidence

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Speaker 2: that put together like a puzzle. You know, the Crown says,

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Speaker 2: would confirm that he is indeed guilty of murder. But

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Speaker 2: you know, they have to go through all those different parts.

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Speaker 2: You know, some juries act pretty swiftly, others, you know,

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Speaker 2: take a very long time. But as we know, the

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Speaker 2: judge said, this will take as long as it takes. Now,

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Speaker 2: deliberations will not continue tomorrow. A juror had a long

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Speaker 2: standing commitment that he had made the judge aware of previously,

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Speaker 2: and so they will have a long weekend and return

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Speaker 2: on Monday at eleven am to continue deliberationstuff.

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Speaker 1: Michael, thank you appreciate your time. That's Michael Morrow, the

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Speaker 1: Herald journalist who is at the High Court in Auckland

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