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Speaker 2: Hello on the eve of the first Test against Sri

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Speaker 2: Lanka in Gaul on the Front Foot. Here is from

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Speaker 2: Captain Fin Salley and reading Leg's going to eash Soadie

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Speaker 2: joint us to talk about the exciting summer ahead and

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Coney. There's a lot to look forward to.

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Speaker 3: It there there is what you're right. Certainly prior to Christmas,

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Speaker 3: it's focusing mainly on the long format and then after

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Speaker 3: Christmas when people can get out and move around a

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Speaker 3: lot better and sort of watch some short form cricket,

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Speaker 3: which you know, it's basically that after Christmas, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: So you know people like is Ish will will be

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Speaker 3: looking to be part of that after Christmas by the

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Speaker 2: And one man I'm sure, who'll share the excitement of

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Speaker 2: the summer is leading Legspinner, is Ish Stody. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of cricket ahead this summer. Ish, thanks very much

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Speaker 4: What's good to be here. And yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of the makeup of the summer, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of whiteball options, which seems to be the

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Speaker 2: format of cricket that you playing most at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder just whether the England Test series will

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Speaker 2: probably be the real highlight in terms of having them

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Speaker 4: Oh guaranteed. I mean, like, you know, any time England

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Speaker 4: bring the Barmi Army with them, is a great atmosphere.

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Speaker 4: The type of cricket playing at moment is really exciting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll have fond memories of playing against England after

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Speaker 2: you and Neil Wagner steered the side to a victory

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally man Neil Wagner Heart of a Lion, you

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Speaker 4: like during that game, just listening to the Barmi Army

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bet they do. And that's what we want

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like you know, that's that's what I love about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. I think, you know, the more white ball

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the white ball game seems to be something

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you played much in Sri Lanka.

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Speaker 3: But in Gaul.

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Speaker 2: to begin. Thanks very much for joining us. We wish

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Speaker 3: a kind of a two lots of two Rourke and

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00:20:38,973 --> 00:20:43,493
Speaker 3: Sears looking for a position and Henry and Saudi looking

437
00:20:43,533 --> 00:20:49,493
Speaker 3: for a position and going in basically with two seamers

438
00:20:49,653 --> 00:20:54,373
Speaker 3: and that spin based attack you've just mentioned. So and

439
00:20:54,733 --> 00:20:57,613
Speaker 3: I personally think that Henry is the first person to

440
00:20:57,693 --> 00:21:02,693
Speaker 3: select because he's been our most consistent and most reliable seema.

441
00:21:02,813 --> 00:21:05,853
Speaker 3: So that pushes Saudi to the back just a little

442
00:21:05,893 --> 00:21:09,333
Speaker 3: for me, and then you need that extra pace as

443
00:21:09,333 --> 00:21:14,413
Speaker 3: well of O'Rourke or Seers. So and when when Gary

444
00:21:14,493 --> 00:21:17,373
Speaker 3: Stead was saying, look, he might not captain every side,

445
00:21:17,453 --> 00:21:19,453
Speaker 3: I thought that kind of made a bit of sense,

446
00:21:20,253 --> 00:21:24,093
Speaker 3: So I'm a little bit surprised about that. So it

447
00:21:24,173 --> 00:21:29,013
Speaker 3: means presumably that Henry and Soudy will be the be

448
00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:31,493
Speaker 3: the sort of the purveyors of medium pace.

449
00:21:31,853 --> 00:21:34,093
Speaker 2: I just wonder, though, do you go away on a

450
00:21:34,173 --> 00:21:37,533
Speaker 2: tour and leave your captain out of the first game.

451
00:21:37,613 --> 00:21:43,253
Speaker 2: Surely there's a little bit of personal pride for you

452
00:21:43,413 --> 00:21:46,373
Speaker 2: to have your captain leading him from the front from

453
00:21:46,453 --> 00:21:48,053
Speaker 2: the first Test match, isn't.

454
00:21:47,813 --> 00:21:50,733
Speaker 3: He Yeah, it certainly is. But I mean it's a

455
00:21:50,813 --> 00:21:53,333
Speaker 3: question of a captain. The first job he's got to do.

456
00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:58,173
Speaker 3: He's got to make his place in the team secure.

457
00:21:59,093 --> 00:22:03,373
Speaker 3: And from what we saw last last year, the last

458
00:22:03,413 --> 00:22:06,773
Speaker 3: time we played tests really well, March wasn't that sort

459
00:22:06,773 --> 00:22:13,893
Speaker 3: of thing. He was not not really threatening enough throughout

460
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:18,373
Speaker 3: that entire series, And so gads. I know it's a

461
00:22:18,413 --> 00:22:24,133
Speaker 3: difficult position for stead and and for Saudi himself, but

462
00:22:24,333 --> 00:22:27,413
Speaker 3: you've got to win these matches and you've got to

463
00:22:27,453 --> 00:22:32,533
Speaker 3: give yourself the best chance of doing that. So I

464
00:22:32,573 --> 00:22:35,093
Speaker 3: think it's I know it's a difficult one and people

465
00:22:35,093 --> 00:22:37,653
Speaker 3: will disagree with me. The only time I could see

466
00:22:37,693 --> 00:22:44,893
Speaker 3: Saudi over in a place like Asiah, you know, getting

467
00:22:44,893 --> 00:22:48,133
Speaker 3: a position would be because that'll slow him down again.

468
00:22:49,493 --> 00:22:52,213
Speaker 3: You know, off the pitch won't get quite so much

469
00:22:52,293 --> 00:22:55,573
Speaker 3: bounce as if it's up and down. If it's dry

470
00:22:55,613 --> 00:22:58,533
Speaker 3: and dusty and it's holding up and it's hard to

471
00:22:58,573 --> 00:23:01,773
Speaker 3: get away, I think then Tim Saudi certainly comes into

472
00:23:01,813 --> 00:23:06,093
Speaker 3: the game, but other than that, I don't quite see

473
00:23:06,173 --> 00:23:10,773
Speaker 3: him as as quite as dangerous as either Henry or

474
00:23:10,853 --> 00:23:11,813
Speaker 3: oraw can see.

475
00:23:11,813 --> 00:23:15,893
Speaker 2: It's yeah, you hear the phrase quite often. You know,

476
00:23:15,933 --> 00:23:18,533
Speaker 2: you've got to take twenty wickets, but you've also got

477
00:23:18,533 --> 00:23:21,013
Speaker 2: to score a lot of runs. Now you've batted over there.

478
00:23:21,053 --> 00:23:24,333
Speaker 2: I know you're in short pants in the days when

479
00:23:24,373 --> 00:23:27,493
Speaker 2: you play, and what your memory is of batting in

480
00:23:28,533 --> 00:23:33,333
Speaker 2: Sri Lanka as like, But you have to have your

481
00:23:33,373 --> 00:23:36,173
Speaker 2: top six in the best of form, don't you.

482
00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:44,373
Speaker 3: Oh look, New Zealand will need runs, that's quite obvious.

483
00:23:45,893 --> 00:23:49,853
Speaker 3: And Sri Lanka just just talk about them, just very briefly.

484
00:23:49,933 --> 00:23:52,773
Speaker 3: They are very strong and batting at home. You look

485
00:23:52,813 --> 00:23:57,173
Speaker 3: at you know the sort of number were just the

486
00:23:57,173 --> 00:24:00,893
Speaker 3: top six really Karuna Rattan's thirty six but over seven

487
00:24:01,013 --> 00:24:04,293
Speaker 3: thousand runs. Kusal Mendez is going to keep in this game,

488
00:24:04,613 --> 00:24:06,813
Speaker 3: so he'll be batting down and not at number three.

489
00:24:07,413 --> 00:24:10,893
Speaker 3: He's got fought down two hundred runs, nine hundreds, Angelo

490
00:24:10,973 --> 00:24:17,333
Speaker 3: Matthews seven hundred runs, sixteen hundreds chunder mile averaging forty two.

491
00:24:17,613 --> 00:24:20,893
Speaker 3: Dan and Jaya the captain averaging forty. They have got

492
00:24:21,453 --> 00:24:25,453
Speaker 3: a strong side. Nasanka will be opening, he's just got

493
00:24:25,453 --> 00:24:29,613
Speaker 3: one hundred against England and then at number seven he'll

494
00:24:29,613 --> 00:24:32,453
Speaker 3: probably beat a little bit higher than that in this match.

495
00:24:32,813 --> 00:24:36,813
Speaker 3: Comindu Mendous has only had ten Test innings. He's got

496
00:24:36,853 --> 00:24:41,413
Speaker 3: three hundreds and four fifties of those ten innings, so

497
00:24:41,533 --> 00:24:45,053
Speaker 3: he's averaging seventy odd. So he's only twenty five left

498
00:24:45,053 --> 00:24:50,293
Speaker 3: hander he is. So they're batting lineup. You know it's

499
00:24:50,333 --> 00:24:53,293
Speaker 3: going to be demanding for our bowlers. After bowl very steadily,

500
00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:57,413
Speaker 3: no loose sessions, hold their catchers, but then they need

501
00:24:57,493 --> 00:25:03,013
Speaker 3: to bat and get runs. It's very hard for players nowadays. Wards.

502
00:25:03,093 --> 00:25:09,533
Speaker 3: I think when you leave your homes conditions and you

503
00:25:09,693 --> 00:25:13,493
Speaker 3: go to a place where it will turn considerably more

504
00:25:13,533 --> 00:25:17,493
Speaker 3: than where we can front here. The challenges to get

505
00:25:17,533 --> 00:25:21,933
Speaker 3: players ready and that's where the loss of the five

506
00:25:22,013 --> 00:25:26,653
Speaker 3: days against Afghanistan makes it a bit worse. But you

507
00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:31,293
Speaker 3: know in away series you know these days you just

508
00:25:31,453 --> 00:25:33,733
Speaker 3: arrive and go straight into the Tests. There's no warm

509
00:25:33,813 --> 00:25:38,933
Speaker 3: up matches. You're undercooked, a bit and a bit ill prepared,

510
00:25:39,493 --> 00:25:44,453
Speaker 3: and unfortunately tests are the hardest format to be ill

511
00:25:44,493 --> 00:25:48,173
Speaker 3: prepared for. These players have been playing, you know, white

512
00:25:48,173 --> 00:25:51,013
Speaker 3: ball franchise cricket, haven't they. But the red ball moves

513
00:25:51,053 --> 00:25:56,773
Speaker 3: around and it turns, and so you know, they really

514
00:25:56,853 --> 00:26:03,333
Speaker 3: need two first class matches and prior to the Test match.

515
00:26:03,373 --> 00:26:06,093
Speaker 3: There's no game in between the Tests. Of course, no

516
00:26:06,213 --> 00:26:08,613
Speaker 3: first class game there where you can kind of get

517
00:26:08,653 --> 00:26:12,053
Speaker 3: someone out of form, give them a chance, or even

518
00:26:12,093 --> 00:26:15,053
Speaker 3: if you have an injury. I mean, we've got four

519
00:26:15,093 --> 00:26:19,133
Speaker 3: people to pick from Sri Lanka if they get an injury,

520
00:26:19,613 --> 00:26:22,973
Speaker 3: can choose from anybody they want in Sri Lanka. So

521
00:26:23,533 --> 00:26:26,493
Speaker 3: there are advantages and being the home side.

522
00:26:27,013 --> 00:26:29,293
Speaker 2: The interesting thing is I think that we've developed in

523
00:26:29,333 --> 00:26:31,813
Speaker 2: our players an ability to play spin. I think of

524
00:26:32,133 --> 00:26:35,733
Speaker 2: Ravendra and Phillips have both shown the ability to play

525
00:26:35,733 --> 00:26:38,013
Speaker 2: spin and they're not scared of using their feet and

526
00:26:38,053 --> 00:26:40,893
Speaker 2: getting down. But you know that's a judgment call, isn't it.

527
00:26:41,173 --> 00:26:45,733
Speaker 2: And of course Kane Williamson is an expert and he

528
00:26:46,173 --> 00:26:50,253
Speaker 2: plays spin generally pretty well as well. In fact, he

529
00:26:50,293 --> 00:26:54,733
Speaker 2: plays all kind of bowling pretty well. So it's a

530
00:26:54,773 --> 00:26:58,733
Speaker 2: matter of whether they have got the confidence to do

531
00:26:58,893 --> 00:27:01,733
Speaker 2: that going straight into a Test match. Sell very well

532
00:27:01,773 --> 00:27:04,573
Speaker 2: to play white ball cricket, but as you say, this

533
00:27:04,653 --> 00:27:08,653
Speaker 2: is a different format altogether from the form of cricket

534
00:27:08,653 --> 00:27:12,333
Speaker 2: that they've been playing, and with the red Bull you've

535
00:27:12,373 --> 00:27:13,853
Speaker 2: got to be betting a heck of a lot longer.

536
00:27:14,373 --> 00:27:18,093
Speaker 3: Confidence comes from, first of all, competence, and that's you

537
00:27:18,133 --> 00:27:21,693
Speaker 3: mentioned Williams and those other players, Revendro and and so on,

538
00:27:22,253 --> 00:27:26,453
Speaker 3: that they're all competent players, aren't they. So the question

539
00:27:26,653 --> 00:27:28,853
Speaker 3: is where do you get that from that You get

540
00:27:28,933 --> 00:27:31,973
Speaker 3: that from staying in and being at the crease and

541
00:27:32,093 --> 00:27:35,253
Speaker 3: feeling comfortable defending. That's the first thing you start to

542
00:27:35,293 --> 00:27:37,533
Speaker 3: stay there, you've got it, As you say that for

543
00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:42,373
Speaker 3: a long time, you know, a flashy twenty five isn't

544
00:27:42,373 --> 00:27:46,573
Speaker 3: going to win you a Test, so you know. So,

545
00:27:46,893 --> 00:27:51,293
Speaker 3: I think as far as that's concerned Conway. Conway will

546
00:27:51,333 --> 00:27:54,773
Speaker 3: probably play once he needs a few. He's gone for

547
00:27:55,373 --> 00:27:59,213
Speaker 3: a casual contract and that means he needs to play

548
00:27:59,213 --> 00:28:03,613
Speaker 3: well if he wants to play international cricket. So he

549
00:28:03,733 --> 00:28:08,693
Speaker 3: has an extra drive kind of really Latham he'll be

550
00:28:08,773 --> 00:28:11,893
Speaker 3: he's a sweeper, he'll play. Williamson can play both ways,

551
00:28:11,933 --> 00:28:17,013
Speaker 3: mainly doesn't sweep. He's normally a straight blade. And then

552
00:28:17,093 --> 00:28:19,493
Speaker 3: I think you've got Revengdeer at four, Mitchell at five,

553
00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:24,573
Speaker 3: Phillips at six, Blundle at seven, and then it gets

554
00:28:24,573 --> 00:28:27,013
Speaker 3: a bit tricky. And then it gets tricky, doesn't it.

555
00:28:28,253 --> 00:28:31,533
Speaker 3: Which spinners do you feel that they will go with here?

556
00:28:32,653 --> 00:28:36,533
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that Southey mentioned the fact that you

557
00:28:36,573 --> 00:28:38,613
Speaker 2: can go for a couple of spinners on top of

558
00:28:39,013 --> 00:28:43,173
Speaker 2: Phillips and Ravendra who've proven themselves to a lesser extent

559
00:28:43,533 --> 00:28:48,693
Speaker 2: at the Test match level. But I would my mind

560
00:28:48,773 --> 00:28:53,693
Speaker 2: would be on the quality or what Sri Lanka have.

561
00:28:54,173 --> 00:28:57,773
Speaker 2: Do they have more right handers than left handers? I'm

562
00:28:57,773 --> 00:29:00,213
Speaker 2: not quite sure, but I think you've got to start

563
00:29:00,333 --> 00:29:02,733
Speaker 2: with AJS Patel as first, don't you.

564
00:29:03,053 --> 00:29:06,773
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's again. And now that comes to another

565
00:29:06,893 --> 00:29:10,493
Speaker 3: area that I just click mentioned, and that is how

566
00:29:10,573 --> 00:29:14,013
Speaker 3: you read a pitch. And I'm afraid New Zealand at

567
00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:17,173
Speaker 3: the moment that just in those last couple of series wads.

568
00:29:17,853 --> 00:29:22,293
Speaker 3: Do you remember the Basin Reserve where they played Australia

569
00:29:22,373 --> 00:29:26,293
Speaker 3: Lion got wickets and Phillip's got wickets and we left

570
00:29:26,373 --> 00:29:29,813
Speaker 3: Santner out in both games against the other game was

571
00:29:29,853 --> 00:29:34,773
Speaker 3: South Africa at Hamilton. A guy called Dane Pete who

572
00:29:34,853 --> 00:29:37,293
Speaker 3: was an off spinner for them to South Africa got

573
00:29:37,293 --> 00:29:40,493
Speaker 3: five wickets in the first innings. We didn't have Satna

574
00:29:40,533 --> 00:29:47,373
Speaker 3: there at all, so we haven't been reading our own

575
00:29:47,493 --> 00:29:52,013
Speaker 3: pictures that well. And I hope that we do it

576
00:29:52,053 --> 00:29:54,453
Speaker 3: a little bit better and we put a lot of

577
00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:58,653
Speaker 3: work into what that will be and I think probably

578
00:29:58,693 --> 00:30:01,613
Speaker 3: they'll work out that it will spin. So if you

579
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:05,493
Speaker 3: are right and sow they has said we want maybe

580
00:30:05,533 --> 00:30:12,173
Speaker 3: two extra spinners to to Phillips and Ravendra, then I

581
00:30:12,253 --> 00:30:18,093
Speaker 3: think you're looking. You know, obviously you'd like an off hee,

582
00:30:18,133 --> 00:30:23,053
Speaker 3: wouldn't you to You'd want Bracewell there as someone who

583
00:30:23,133 --> 00:30:26,653
Speaker 3: turns it away from a left hander and into a

584
00:30:26,733 --> 00:30:28,773
Speaker 3: right and into a writing and then you want a

585
00:30:28,853 --> 00:30:32,093
Speaker 3: left hand left armor as well, So one of each

586
00:30:32,173 --> 00:30:34,893
Speaker 3: I would have thought, you know, And whether it's Patel

587
00:30:34,933 --> 00:30:37,253
Speaker 3: or whether it's Santana will depend on what they think

588
00:30:37,293 --> 00:30:40,653
Speaker 3: of the pitch. If it's a bad looking pitch and underprepared,

589
00:30:41,293 --> 00:30:44,533
Speaker 3: I would go Santana because he's quicker through the air

590
00:30:45,013 --> 00:30:47,173
Speaker 3: and he'll make it happen at the other end the

591
00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:51,333
Speaker 3: batsman's end faster. He's quite an accurate bowler. He's bowled

592
00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:54,133
Speaker 3: a lot in short form cricket, so he's used to

593
00:30:54,173 --> 00:30:57,733
Speaker 3: people attacking him, and that's why I would go him.

594
00:30:57,973 --> 00:31:00,173
Speaker 3: He might give you a few more runs than Patel.

595
00:31:00,253 --> 00:31:02,853
Speaker 3: He might give you He probably a better fielder than

596
00:31:02,893 --> 00:31:05,813
Speaker 3: Patel's well, but that's not the main reason you're picking bowlers.

597
00:31:06,533 --> 00:31:09,933
Speaker 3: You're picking spinners. So Patel will be absolutely and with

598
00:31:10,013 --> 00:31:14,493
Speaker 3: the chance he has got the most wickets in terms

599
00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:18,533
Speaker 3: of that, he's thirty five. Now he's got he's had

600
00:31:18,613 --> 00:31:22,213
Speaker 3: sixteen Tests, he's got sixty two wickets, so he's getting

601
00:31:22,253 --> 00:31:25,973
Speaker 3: nearly four wickets a match. Don't forget he got fourteen

602
00:31:25,973 --> 00:31:31,373
Speaker 3: and one match. Yeah, so that inflates that number just

603
00:31:31,413 --> 00:31:35,453
Speaker 3: a bit. Brace Will thirty three eight Tests, twenty four

604
00:31:35,453 --> 00:31:41,893
Speaker 3: wickets three per Test, and then Satna thirty two age

605
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:45,773
Speaker 3: twenty six Tests and fifty three wickets, so he's getting

606
00:31:45,813 --> 00:31:50,253
Speaker 3: two basically two wickets a Test match. Those are the

607
00:31:50,293 --> 00:31:54,093
Speaker 3: figures of those three. Personally, I think Bracewill drift it

608
00:31:54,133 --> 00:31:56,613
Speaker 3: a bit and he puts revs on the ball. A

609
00:31:56,733 --> 00:32:00,293
Speaker 3: good field can bat a bit. I think he's a

610
00:32:00,373 --> 00:32:03,133
Speaker 3: man that goes in there. And then it's a question

611
00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:06,493
Speaker 3: of whether they regard Patel or Sanna. And then it

612
00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:10,773
Speaker 3: looks like Henry and soudy'll be their four main bowlers.

613
00:32:11,333 --> 00:32:16,533
Speaker 3: And let's let's see how they go. The Sri Lankans

614
00:32:16,533 --> 00:32:18,613
Speaker 3: look as if they're setting up the same way wads

615
00:32:18,973 --> 00:32:23,213
Speaker 3: they've gone for Froba Jayasuria, who's has a hell of

616
00:32:23,253 --> 00:32:29,733
Speaker 3: a record at Gaul, fifty three wickets in six six Tests,

617
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:35,093
Speaker 3: twelve innings. I mean that's six Tests in the fifty three,

618
00:32:35,133 --> 00:32:39,413
Speaker 3: that's nine a match. He kind of lives there, you know,

619
00:32:41,333 --> 00:32:45,013
Speaker 3: he just that's his backyard.

620
00:32:45,413 --> 00:32:47,133
Speaker 2: I can tell you. He used to prepare the pitch

621
00:32:47,213 --> 00:32:49,613
Speaker 2: down there. Jayanander warn a wearer?

622
00:32:50,013 --> 00:32:54,253
Speaker 3: What an a wearer? Little? What a weir? Yes exactly,

623
00:32:54,293 --> 00:32:57,533
Speaker 3: I remember him. Yeah, I know. I couldn't pronounce it

624
00:32:57,573 --> 00:32:58,293
Speaker 3: and still can't.

625
00:32:58,573 --> 00:33:03,453
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, very slippery, loose arm action, yeah exactly.

626
00:33:04,853 --> 00:33:08,093
Speaker 3: And then they've got now no, so so they are

627
00:33:08,093 --> 00:33:10,653
Speaker 3: going to go with the same thing wards, two quicks,

628
00:33:11,013 --> 00:33:16,733
Speaker 3: two spinners, one left armor that's Ja Suria. And then

629
00:33:17,973 --> 00:33:20,653
Speaker 3: then they've got a guy called Rummish Mendus who's an

630
00:33:20,653 --> 00:33:24,053
Speaker 3: off spinner. He's he bowled there last year, so he's

631
00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:29,133
Speaker 3: they've got consistency there, can we get the runs? You look,

632
00:33:29,173 --> 00:33:32,773
Speaker 3: when you're an away series, you've got to stay in

633
00:33:32,813 --> 00:33:34,973
Speaker 3: the game as long as you can stay in the

634
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:38,533
Speaker 3: Test match, stay in the Test match. Do not have

635
00:33:38,653 --> 00:33:42,453
Speaker 3: one bad session when you're in away in a test

636
00:33:42,733 --> 00:33:45,373
Speaker 3: one bad session can be the game.

637
00:33:45,893 --> 00:33:49,533
Speaker 2: Plenty of options there for this Test series. They're coming

638
00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:53,053
Speaker 2: up for the only other option that we don't want

639
00:33:53,093 --> 00:33:58,573
Speaker 2: to consider as the possibility of rain, because afraid, afraid

640
00:33:59,573 --> 00:34:05,373
Speaker 2: there'll be another bay corridor cricket, I think for you

641
00:34:05,413 --> 00:34:07,733
Speaker 2: know what you do when you roll up a little

642
00:34:07,733 --> 00:34:10,773
Speaker 2: bit of paper, remember those days, and you try and

643
00:34:10,893 --> 00:34:12,973
Speaker 2: spin it in it You don't have to because it

644
00:34:13,813 --> 00:34:18,253
Speaker 2: just automatically changes direction off the wall of the corridor.

645
00:34:18,653 --> 00:34:22,293
Speaker 3: So did you with paper?

646
00:34:23,173 --> 00:34:24,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to roll up bits of paper.

647
00:34:25,813 --> 00:34:28,013
Speaker 3: Really in your own corridor?

648
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, in any when we played these pickup Oh no,

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Speaker 2: I don't know paper was getting because you can really

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Speaker 2: throw it at the batsman and you know it didn't

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Speaker 2: quite hurt so much, but you could take out your

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Speaker 2: anger on the batsman with a kind of rolled up paper,

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Speaker 2: that was right.

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Speaker 3: And what was what did you have to hold the bat?

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Speaker 3: Was it a bat or was it something different, just

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Speaker 3: a piece of just a bit of a stump or

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Speaker 3: a well.

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Speaker 2: You know you rip a leg off a chair, don't you.

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Speaker 2: I mean that happened quite often in Pakistan, didn't they

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00:34:59,253 --> 00:35:03,213
Speaker 2: in some of the places we stayed, or you know,

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00:35:03,533 --> 00:35:05,653
Speaker 2: you could if they've got big toilet brushes, you can

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Speaker 2: use those, you know, right, yeah, but right, well they'll

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Speaker 2: get the usually worry about it.

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Speaker 3: They're usually in use. So yeah, well it's it is,

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Speaker 3: that's right. And so look it's it's going to be

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00:35:25,253 --> 00:35:28,173
Speaker 3: really interesting words, isn't it. I Mean, as I said,

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Speaker 3: I think on our last part, New Zealand need to

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Speaker 3: get kind of five wins if they can mhm and

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Speaker 3: and and a couple of drawers. So that's a really

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Speaker 3: tough ask against Sri Lanka and then India over you know,

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Speaker 3: for five tests, and then and then against England. So

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Speaker 3: you've got to you've got to be honest about it.

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Speaker 3: That it's that it's the chances. I guess you'd say

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Speaker 3: a slim.

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Speaker 2: Those are the things that We'll be sitting in our

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Speaker 2: armchair watching till around about midnight. Then you can just

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Speaker 2: not offter bed. You have a little hot toddy in

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Speaker 2: a way. You go and yeah, wake up the next

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Speaker 2: morning and get ready for another day, provided weather.

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Speaker 3: Fine it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't want it here. I don't want another bottom test.

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Speaker 3: Oh got run a review this in jury? Good to chat? Yep,

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Speaker 3: take care mate, yep, take care Yeah, run away bye,

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Speaker 3: allgies of Summers.

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