1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Barry Sober here, Hey Barry, good afternoon, Ryan. Now a 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: quick little update from Penny Henado in the House today. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Well you wouldn't have noticed it, really, but he got 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: up and I think it probably would have took him 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: all of ten seconds to say he's sorry, and I 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: love the media always talks about the powerful Parliamentary Privileges Committee. Well, 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: it is a slap on the wrist of the wet 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: bus ticket. Although Penni Henardo was the least offensive in 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: the House when they did the haka, he did stand 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: on the floor and join in with the Maldi party. 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: They've yet to get their sentence, but they may maybe 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: not ten seconds, maybe they're thirty seconds, who knows. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: All right, now, it's all about the Greens today. 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Oh yes, Well you've got such a laugh the other 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: day about them here that came more of a laugh today, Ryan. 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: So we've got two things to tackle and we've actually 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: got an update on the and everyone would have heard 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: about the cops Tamotha Paul and the police comments. Well 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: there's an update in just a second. But you've got 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: an update from the House on the. 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: Profit profit profit. Yes, indeed, you can understand why the 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: Green's leadership in Parliament have embraced the color of their 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: party because they're Green with envy of anyone that does 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: make money out of doing business. Their co leader, Chloe Swarbrick, 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: was added again in Parliament today out quizzing the Prime 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Minister on why he, without shame embraces profit. 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: Here she is When the Prime Minister says profit is 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: a good thing, does he mean the one million dollars 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: in excess profits a day made by the supermarket giopoly 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: or the record billions in profits made by banks and 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: the energy sector that are former national government partially privatized 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: or something else? 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: Ah, I mean, I actually am stumped for words the 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: thoughts I think in that question of Chloe Sporwick ever 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: being a finance minister in a Labour Greens government future 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: government is not great? 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: How much private profit is he comfortable asking New Zealanders 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: to fork out for his public private partnerships? 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: Everyty question go on with Peter? 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: I asked the Prime Minister has his cabinet decided to 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: review all of the will where dusk capital still works? 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 5: And do they know they as a cabinet tend to 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 5: take on those economic theories? 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 4: It would be safe to say that we are not 45 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: proponents of dust capital. 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: How much private profit is he comfortable asking New Zealanders 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: to fork out for his public private partnerships because he 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: refuses to fairly tax the wealthiest New Zealanders in this country? 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: Why is the government refusing to invest and publicly led, 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: publicly funded and publicly operated infrastructure. 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: And the answer to that, she was quite simple, ready, 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: because we're capital thinn in this country. That's why we 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: seek capital from abroad. Now. 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: The Greens spokeswoman on police Tammotha Paul, at it again, 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: this time saying basically that cops on the beat are 56 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: just wandering around wasting their time. 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: Well essentially that's what she is saying that. I mean, 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: she's under fire for the comments. I mean, Mark Mitchell, 59 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: the Police Minister, can't believe it. She said it was 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: possible to replace cops on the beat, and of course 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: the latest advent of this government. She seemed to suggest, though, 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: it's a new advent for police being out on the beat. Well, 63 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: for her knowledge, and she's only in her late twenties, 64 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: they are on the beat when I was a kid, 65 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: and that's many many years ago before she was ever 66 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: a spark in a parent's eye. But look, Paul makes 67 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: no apologies for her view on the police and being 68 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: the Wellington Central MP, she reckons she knows what she's 69 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: talking about. 70 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 6: I think that the police should be responding to incidences 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 6: of domestic violence, sexual violence, things that only they can do. 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 6: I think beat patrols is an easy thing that can 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: be substituted for by Marty Warden's by halfay aka kind 74 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 6: of community people walking around which we have in Wellington. 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 6: I think it's unusual for them to see someone be 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 6: critical of the police. But I think it is important 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 6: that somebody in this Parliament are critical of police because 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 6: the IPCA, who investigate misconduct by the police, only investigate 79 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 6: two percent of all of the complaints that they receive. 80 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 6: The heavier visual presence of police does not make people 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 6: feel safer. It makes people feel more on edge because 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 6: there are more police around. 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: I mean, can you believe that this is the Greens 84 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: spokes woman on police and if they are in coalition 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: with the Labor Party, lord help her at the next election. Well, 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, you've got Chloe worrying about profit, 87 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: You've got this tamb of the Paul saying cops shouldn't 88 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: be on the beat. What's the what's the country going 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: to come to? 90 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: There's actually an update on this Barry from Laura who's 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: executive producer here. So Tamotha Paul in her comments accused 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: police of waiting for homeless people to leave their spot, 93 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: packing their stuff up and throwing it in the bin. Yes, 94 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: and she said she credited this with feedback she had 95 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: received as the local MP from the Salvation Army. Now, 96 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: of course the media has gone to the Salvation Army 97 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: and they have replied I am not cured, thank you 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: for your inquiry. I'm not sure who might have made 99 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: this comment to Tamotha Paul. It was not anyone in 100 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: an official capacity with the Salvation Army, as I am aware. 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: We have a good relationship with the New Zealand Police 102 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: and we would raise any potential problems directly with them. 103 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: So they're not refuse collectors on the beat. 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: No, apparently not, and the Salvation Army doesn't hold that view. 105 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: So wait for some more evidence. 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: I guess where she comes up with the figures. I 107 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: will never know. No, like two percent of IPC complaints 108 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: being investigated, there's independent investigations with two percent, but there 109 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: are many more complaints that are looked at by the place. 110 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't just they don't ignore everything else. They 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: look into everything and then only those that they deem 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: serious enough or with legitimate. 113 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: They have an independent investigation. And that's where you got 114 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: the two percent figure. But you know it's totally misleading. 115 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Arry Soper, thanks for your time. 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