1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Barriosopersen your political correspondence with us now, Barry, Hello, good afternoon, Heaven. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey, Yeah, I mean he's done a Mayor Corpo, 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Mayor corpor Ma Maxima corpor Isn't he really he's front 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: foot at it. You've got to say. Goodness only knows 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: though what he was up to when he was at 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: this warehouse. I mean to tell a person that was 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: there to take a bottle of wine and go home 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: and if off. It's not the behavior you would expect 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: of a cabinet minister, and certainly that was reinforced by 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister this afternoon. He said that he was 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: disappointed by Andrew Bailey's contact and fell well short of 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: what would be expected of a cabinet minister. Well, Andrew Bailey, 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: he usurped the Prime Minister because he wrote not just 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: the company that he had visited, but to the man 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: that he had he says insulted on the on the 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: warehouse floor. So you know, he's really been terribly contrite 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: about it. But I guess I have spoken to him briefly, 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: but he said he was being lighthearted and I know 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: you're going to talk to him after five o'clock. But 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: there are times when you can be lighthearted, maybe with 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: somebody you know, but with a perfect stranger. They could 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: take it. 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: Back and sort of see how this was a joke though, 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Right If you go to the warehouse, there's one worker 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: there and you go, hey, listen, get a bottle of 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: one and go home. Nobody else is here, go, I'm 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: you loser, don't work anymore. Like, you can see how 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: that could actually just be not intended to insert yeah exactly. 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: And look Andrew Bailey. I know him very well. When 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: I was commuting between Auckland and Wellington, I'd have on 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: the old occasion a drink with him in the Quarry Club. 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: He's an awfully nice man and as the most non 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: offensive person that I've come across in many a long 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: year in politics. And I did sort of wonder whether 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: he was suited to politics because he was far too 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: nice for the business. This man is an adventurer extraordinariy 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: with some of the things he's done. He's done the 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: coast to coast three times, he's done Ironman, He's dragged 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: a sled to the North Pole and the South Pole. 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, his background is incredible probably the 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: most incredible background of any politician. But you know, this 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: lapse in judgment I think is probably even beyond Andrew 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Bailey when he reflects on it himself. 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: Barry, now you have been walking around telling us that 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: you think that Darlene is not gone. 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: He's not gone. You know, you would expect that the Greens, 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: as they did last night, wrote to the Speaker and 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: said we want the wocker jumping legislation and vote. Now, 49 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: normally that would be a straightforward case. The Speaker would 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: take it on board. Although don't forget, it's never been 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: tested before, so this is the first time it's actually 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: been used, ironically by the Greens who was so vehemently 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: opposed to it. But what I suspect is that the 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: Speaker will probably look at the Court of Appeal and 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: she's successfully made a bid for her case to be 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: viewed by the Court of Appeal on whether the Greens 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: were right and sacking her in the first place. Now, 58 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: if the Court of Appeal decides that they were right, 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: it could throw everything into chaos that the Greens would 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: be held in some way to account. She's obviously outside 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,559 Speaker 2: the Greens now, but who knows. 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: So are you saying, because the Greens expect now that 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: they've written to Jerry, Jerry's She's going to take it 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: and start the process and she's gone, never mind what 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: the Court of Appeal is going to do. But are 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: you saying that there is a chance that he will 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: pause because her case has already been accepted by the 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: Court of Appeals. For the decision from the Court of 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Appeal Before he makes. 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: A decision, he has to, you know, I mean, if 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: due process is to be followed, he can. 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Take broken the news to Chloe, because she was beaming 73 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: last night, she was thrilled. 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think Chloe is naive and she's been naive 75 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: since the beginning of. 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: This Barry, this is going to be utterly devastating to 77 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: the Green have to sit through potentially monks of course, make. 78 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: Them look even more foolish, and they're looking. 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: Today quite Do we have a Court of Appeal days, No, 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: we don't. 81 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: So you know the way the court system moves in 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: this country. And maybe after the next election that she 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: gets before the Court of Appeal, Oh, how good is that? 84 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: I'm joking. I mean, it will be much sooner than that. 85 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, she's dragged it out and 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: she's done it quite successful. 87 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: Is it like three Nils. 88 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: Disgusted the public and my viewers that here's a woman 89 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: hanging on in Parliament when she's got no place to 90 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: be there. Nevertheless, she's played the Greens at what has 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: been a fairly ghastly sort of vein. 92 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: If you are right, such is the outcome of deliberative democracy. 93 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: Chloe's face, Barry, thanks very much, really appreciate it. We'll 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: I read the political week that was with you later. 95 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: That's very so for senior political correspondent. 96 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 97 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio