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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers. The mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial,

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Speaker 1: and rural news togs had been welded.

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Speaker 2: COVID report, whether it means anything at all? New workplace

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Speaker 2: laws around wrongful dismissal. We got numbers around black Friday.

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Speaker 2: How important that is to a beleagued sector. Tim and

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Speaker 2: Katy be the week gur it did, Undela Murray Olds

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Speaker 2: They poney up as well, the passing right into its

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Speaker 2: Friday morning, seven past six. I'm very glad the COVID

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Speaker 2: report has been released. I mean, why wouldn't it be

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Speaker 2: it's ours? But for a while there it looked like

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Speaker 2: it might not be. We lived and we are living through.

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Speaker 2: It says a lot of stuff you thought it would say.

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Speaker 2: Compulsory mandates were one of the most controversial measures. No kidding,

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Speaker 2: the country was not prepared for border closures or MiQ.

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Speaker 2: Really they run the line that we had fewer infections

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Speaker 2: and therefore fewer deaths than other countries. I know. Chrishipkins

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Speaker 2: yesterday was still rejecting the idea that vaccine mandates were

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Speaker 2: a mistaken in that is the real problem. Of course,

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Speaker 2: in competent government leads to incompetent response. Arrogance leads to

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Speaker 2: an innerblit. He to do things differently, which I think,

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Speaker 2: in part anyway, is the point of the report. Give

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Speaker 2: us a blueprint for next time. The blueprint says mandates

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Speaker 2: were a mistake. Hepkins, who could be PM as soon

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Speaker 2: as twenty twenty six, seems to think he's more right

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Speaker 2: than the inquiry. So are we any further ahead at all?

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Speaker 2: You need to also factor phase one, despite what Tony

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Speaker 2: Blakeley told us on the programme yesterday, is not the

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Speaker 2: full picture. It's a comprehensive picture within the guidelines he

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Speaker 2: was given. Now the guidelines he wasn't given. Why we're

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Speaker 2: having phase two. I still argue it would have been

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Speaker 2: better if we had taken the British route, the adversarial approach.

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Speaker 2: Put Adurn and Hepkins and Bloomfield on the stand, asked

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Speaker 2: some penetrating questions. Doesn't have to be a court to

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Speaker 2: elicit material. This report hasn't found. The really important part

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Speaker 2: for me, though, is not what we did then, but

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Speaker 2: what the outworking of what we did then produced, what

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Speaker 2: we have now, what we're still living through and why

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Speaker 2: because what we have now so badly damaged, we must

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Speaker 2: learn not to do what we did last time. Are

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Speaker 2: the kids not at school, the behavior of so many

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Speaker 2: that's out of control, the moral fatigue, the social decline,

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Speaker 2: the malays that is not measure totally in stats, but

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Speaker 2: the overarching feeling this country is a shadow of what

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Speaker 2: it once was. That's the real story of COVID. But

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Speaker 2: I still maintain right all the reports you want, inquire

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Speaker 2: until you blue in the face of pandemic as luck.

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Speaker 2: If the government that is in on the day the

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Speaker 2: pandemic arrives as good, you'll be okay. If it's labor

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen through twenty twenty three, well you don't need

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Speaker 2: the report. Just look at us.

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety seconds and it.

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Speaker 2: Is something for nothing. The palms are flat out this morning,

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Speaker 2: new immigration stats shore. The floodgates are open. So Kei

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Speaker 2: has signed a deal with Iraq to get tough on smugglers.

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Speaker 3: This is a world first that will help us smash

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Speaker 3: the people's smuggling gangs and secure our borders. And we've

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Speaker 3: also announced funding for Iraqi law enforcement to tackle this problem. Upstream.

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Speaker 2: Then they have worries. It's some military bases used by

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Speaker 2: the Americans. Seems the spotting drone activity.

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Speaker 4: We need to shoot them down, you know, rather than

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Speaker 4: have a for an adversary collecting on us which they

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Speaker 4: are in testing our response, which they have and they've

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Speaker 2: Then we got a bloke called Daniel Daniels, a former

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Speaker 2: British soldier who had court decided was collecting material for

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Speaker 2: a run. Daniel might be a bit dim.

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Speaker 5: We went to Turkey and the plan kind of went sour.

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Speaker 5: I delivered a package to them which I don't think

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Speaker 5: I should tell you, but just don't mention it to anyone.

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Speaker 2: No, despite the fact you're being recorded Daniel anyway, the

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Speaker 6: Him, I don't think Daniel Cleif should come and work

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Speaker 6: for any UK agency. And I think Daniel Kleief committed

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Speaker 6: some extremely serious offenses. I like to think of him

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Speaker 6: as a bit of a watermittee character who ultimately had

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Speaker 6: a very substantial real world.

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Speaker 2: Impact the north of the border of the Scots. To

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Speaker 2: prove they're not like the Brits are handing out winter

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Speaker 7: We will not abandon older people this winter or indeed

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Speaker 7: any winter, and we will continue to protect air pensioners

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Speaker 7: from the harsh reality of a UK labor government.

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Speaker 2: Then from the old chib as well. Poor our Greg

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Speaker 2: Wallace of Mastership has been pinged by a bunch of

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Speaker 8: The BBTRE has had an incredibly bruising year really if

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Speaker 8: you think about Hugh Edwards, Jermaine Jennis j Blades from

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Speaker 2: Priinally Banksy News in Bristol two thousand and six. Banks

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Speaker 2: he painted a piece well Hung Lover. It's the naked

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Speaker 2: man clinging to a window still as another man looks

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Speaker 2: out the window. It's very clever. It's living in mighty

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Speaker 2: walls with expeler. Now the building is now being put

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Speaker 2: up for sale. It's got a Grade two which means

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Speaker 2: you can't touch the bank sing so the new owner

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Speaker 2: to maintain it, but you would unless you're an idiot.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, you've got a building and a Banksy guess

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Speaker 2: how much one point five million New Zealand one point

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Speaker 2: the way, money worries this morning and heaps of them,

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Speaker 2: currency's weakest level on record. The rupl is plunging as

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Speaker 2: we speak. There is panic in Russia. Central banks had

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Speaker 2: Talksp Morning, Mike. Mainstream media is a bit quiet this

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Speaker 2: morning on the great police response to that gang funeral yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well we're not and Mark Mitchell, the police Minister's with

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Speaker 2: business from Definite Punch Management, Greg Smith, morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Morning to Mike. How about the business confidence it's party time,

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Speaker 9: Or maybe maybe maybe not yea. There were certainly some positives,

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Speaker 9: confidence ease one point plus sixty five in November, experienced

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Speaker 9: Really good news was an inflation so business pricing intentions

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Speaker 9: I think it actually does open up the idea, and

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Speaker 9: overshoot on the downside, and am Z makes the somber

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Speaker 9: point that there is still real pain out there in

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Speaker 9: going to continue to increase with some time. So it

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Speaker 9: sounds like we need more Rakee cats.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Yes, it does, Greg, And I don't know where

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Speaker 2: I've heard that before. Oh, that's right, it's from you,

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Speaker 2: so for sure. And Michael, I mean how good?

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Speaker 9: I what an absolute cracker from the new zualmd's largest

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Speaker 9: listed company. So a record half years. Oult revenues up

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Speaker 9: shares feul one and a half percent. But just to

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Speaker 9: up sixty percent year to day. Investers may also be

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Speaker 9: Pipal Healthy does have factories in China and Mexico. They're

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Speaker 9: adopting a weight and see approach.

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Speaker 9: Possibly also a little bit of disappointment guidance wasn't lifted

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Speaker 9: given how while the company is doing. But yeah, nonetheless,

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Speaker 9: a fantastic result from our largest company.

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Speaker 2: wasn't as good.

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Speaker 9: Yes, so just very quickly that the numbers were underwhelming.

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Speaker 9: They did see a ten percent increase in revenue, but

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Speaker 9: next year. Investors are still a bit worried about the

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Speaker 9: debt levels and the capital rays. There's still no dividend

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Speaker 9: and old only Mike. Yeah, they're pushing out retirement village units,

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Speaker 9: but there's a problem with the ferrals so effectively, when

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Speaker 9: the property market next year.

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Speaker 2: For the retail sector, good stuff mape see next week.

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Speaker 2: It be Mike and know you'll have heaps of text

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Speaker 2: We're getting a bit of this, Mike, if you've got

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Speaker 2: Should Addern, Mike and Shippy be arrested for abuse of power?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think they should. But in that in

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Speaker 2: don't give me that now, twenty two minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 2: So Public transport ancs MZTA have asked counsels to up

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Speaker 2: Is this under your instruction that NZTA are doing what they're.

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Speaker 4: Doing well, The problem that we have asked them to

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Speaker 2: Brown Transport Minister. This is why we are number one

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Speaker 2: And how'd you go?

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Speaker 4: I'm probably as said as I've ever been all year. Actually,

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Speaker 4: thanks to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. So you got to sixty in a hand

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Speaker 2: on heart and you did proper star jump so you

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Speaker 2: got to sixty.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and your producer was listening the entire time too.

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Speaker 2: Okay to you said you need a glance of water there,

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Speaker 2: I'm in.

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Speaker 4: I think I'll get a coffee if that's okay, You.

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Speaker 2: Go for a have a I think will being a

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Speaker 2: good sport and you have a good weekend. Appreciate it

445
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Speaker 2: very much. Thanks like take care there we go, Simming

446
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Speaker 2: and Brown. I mean, how good's that? I mean that

447
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Speaker 2: the default position of cabinet minister to go would you

448
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Speaker 2: like me to do that right now? Cannot be underestimated.

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Speaker 13: Talk about kekas and fast tracking.

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Speaker 2: You can't argue with that, can you? I mean, I

451
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Speaker 2: probably could. Would you like to do it now? Not really?

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Speaker 2: N he was into it. Good on him. He's gold

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Speaker 2: star for the morning. And we've barely begun sixteen.

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Speaker 1: To seven international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

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Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business rich you know.

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Speaker 2: In the morning.

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Speaker 14: Hey, thanks King Daga, lodymac and you too.

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Speaker 2: The prisoner swap that seems to have been coming for

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Speaker 2: a while now years.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they've been engaged in this secretly for many, many months.

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Speaker 14: So it's especially happy day for the families of three

462
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Speaker 14: Americans who've been set free in this hostage swap today

463
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Speaker 14: between the US and China. This is the result, as

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Speaker 14: I say, of these link negotiations, with the President himself

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Speaker 14: taking up directly with China's President she during the recent

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Speaker 14: summit in Peru. So what a moment it was today

467
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Speaker 14: when this trio John Rule, ky Lee and Mark Swedan

468
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Speaker 14: landed back here after years in custody. They arrived in

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Speaker 14: Texas and in return for these Americans, three Chinese citizens

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Speaker 14: were returned to their home country as well. One was

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Speaker 14: a Chinese intelligence officer, Shu Juan Juan, who has been

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Speaker 14: serving a twenty year prison term after what was a

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Speaker 14: pretty dramatic FBI sting operation six years back. The Chinese

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Speaker 14: spy was arrested in Brussels by the FBI team then

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Speaker 14: extradited back to the United States. On the American side,

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Speaker 14: Mark Swedan was held in a Chinese jail on drug

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Speaker 14: related charger for more than twelve years and at one

478
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Speaker 14: point was sentenced by authorities there sentenced to death, so

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Speaker 14: quite a turnaround in his life. While both Lee and

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Speaker 14: Leon were charged with espionage, and Lee had been held

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Speaker 14: for eight years, during which time his son Harris spoke

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Speaker 14: at a congressional hearing in Washington just weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: Every day I wake up, I shudder at the thoughts

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Speaker 5: of him crammed in that tiny cell with anywhere from

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Speaker 5: seven to eleven other people.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: President Biden has made a brief appearance today speaking of

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Speaker 14: his concerns for the Middle East, including the US hostages

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Speaker 14: held by Hamas.

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Speaker 10: I think with the grease of God.

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Speaker 11: And grew and magiss and what we're going to get

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Speaker 11: some more progress in the mounds.

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Speaker 14: Well, hope is eternal, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Meantime?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it is parade Day in New York, Philadelphia and

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Speaker 14: Detroit and many other cities. This was the start of

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Speaker 14: the ninety eighth Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, where it's been

498
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Speaker 14: raining a little, but millions of people turned out. One

499
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Speaker 14: four year old kid said, I like wet, but then

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Speaker 14: this boy's name is River River Hawley. There was a

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Speaker 14: brief pro Palestidian protests where some twenty one people were

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Speaker 14: arrested for briefly blocking the parade floats, but no one

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Speaker 14: supergloed they closed the road and something last year. I

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Speaker 14: think that many in this country they feel the need

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Speaker 14: for a break after this tumultuous season, especially politically. This

506
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Speaker 14: is a time for supposedly marking the change seasons. Approach

507
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Speaker 14: at Christmas dates back to the Pilgrims in sixteen twenty one.

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Speaker 14: Three big football games are being played today. It's also

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Speaker 14: a day for family reunions, with record numbers of flights

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Speaker 14: people going to family gatherings, which in this political season

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Speaker 14: might not always be so easy right, given the recent

512
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Speaker 14: political clamors. So Leslie Jones of The Daily Show comedy

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Speaker 14: show gave this advice in part for clamping down on

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Speaker 14: political chit chat at the family dinner table Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Leslie Jones will come to your house and politely interject

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Speaker 2: when the conversation becomes political.

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Speaker 10: I'm just thankful that Roe v. Wade was finally overturned.

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Speaker 12: That's the conversation you want to start right now at

519
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Speaker 12: this table while everybody's happy during Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 10: Why are we trying to be happy?

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Speaker 1: You know what has them dry ass turky?

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Speaker 11: The way I see it is your generation are all

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Speaker 11: a bunch of lazy socialists.

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Speaker 1: What did you call them? Lazy?

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Speaker 15: You can't even bring proper pie to Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 10: And stop kissing the kids in the mouth.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say these transgender people.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, ah, no politics, folks.

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, mate, We'll see you next week. Preciate it.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, So the games he mentioned, by the way

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Speaker 2: Lions Bears this morning, that won't be much of a

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Speaker 2: game because the Bears aren't up to much. Cowboys giants,

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Speaker 2: that won't be much of a game because the Giants

534
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Speaker 2: aren't up to much, and neither, as it turns out,

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Speaker 2: of the Cowboys, although what uh is he playing? So

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Speaker 2: Cooper Rush? I was hoping for Trey Lance. The Trey

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Speaker 2: Lance story is an interesting story. For a while there,

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance, who is the third string quarterback for the Cowboys,

539
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Speaker 2: was going to be San Francisco's next great hope couple

540
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Speaker 2: of years ago. Don't have time to tell you the story,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, it all went pear shaped and he turned

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Speaker 2: out to be the third string quarterback. Has never played

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Speaker 2: a game since. He almost could have played a game

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Speaker 2: today because not only is Dak Prescott injured, but Cooper

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Speaker 2: Rush is semi injured, which meant that Trey Lance might

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Speaker 2: have played anyway. The later game is the Packers Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: That might be worth watching Uber. The feeds in America

548
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Speaker 2: are after them. This is the app. If you've got

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Speaker 2: the app and you sign on to Uber one, there's

550
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Speaker 2: more than twenty five million subscribers all over the world.

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Speaker 2: Thereafter this is this, this whole app. Once you're in,

552
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Speaker 2: how do you get out? Thing? Uber goes you get

553
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Speaker 2: out in twenty seconds or less. Don't make a big

554
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Speaker 2: deal of this, but the FTC says, well and we'll

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Speaker 2: see it. That's so in investigations underway. Turn away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The my Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retairement Community News

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Speaker 1: togs had been but it.

558
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Speaker 2: Was a brilliant interview with simm and Brown. What a

559
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Speaker 2: delightful talent of thirty three year old, very human and

560
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Speaker 2: excellent at his job getting things done. He's going to

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Speaker 2: go a long way Star jumps Asidemke. You can see

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Speaker 2: there's a young man there who wants to get things

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Speaker 2: done and is prepared to have a go. He won't

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Speaker 2: always get it right, but he's trying. Future PM material

565
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Speaker 2: desperately needed to buy New Zealand Morning, Mike. My wife

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Speaker 2: and I need to go to Parmeston North urgently. How

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Speaker 2: can hear in New Zealand justify a charge of twenty

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and ten dollars returned from Funger Ray Dave.

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Speaker 2: We checked that out because even for a defender of

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Speaker 2: a New Zealand like my good self, I thought that

571
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Speaker 2: sounds a bit steep, so we checked it out. We've

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Speaker 2: got you for twenty two hundred dollars. Depends on where

573
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Speaker 2: you go and how and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But we want you we were going today and then

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Speaker 2: coming back Sunday. We assume that's what you mean by

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Speaker 2: urgent twenty seven hundred dollars. How can they justify it?

577
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Speaker 2: Because they're the only player in town, and because everyone

578
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Speaker 2: else who tries to be an airline in general in

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Speaker 2: this country doesn't necessarily do well because we're a country

580
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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the world of five million people.

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Speaker 2: Because they don't have any engines, because they got half

582
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Speaker 2: their planes on the ground and they can't move them.

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Speaker 2: Because they issued a warning the other day about profit,

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Speaker 2: they're not making as much profit because of the price

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Speaker 2: of jet fuel because they can how's that for a

586
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Speaker 2: series of answers. No, I know you're not happy, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just giving you a reality check. Five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the ouse. It's the fiz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Well, a survey this morning that tells us our companies

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Speaker 2: who want to expand overseas are being blocked from doing

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Speaker 2: so because of compliance costs. Surveys from WYS deals with

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Speaker 2: SMEs SMEs. They found thirty percent of the smee's are

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Speaker 2: already operating overseas will have plans to expand. Of those

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Speaker 2: with plans, forty two percent, so they're being held back

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Speaker 2: by the cost of international payments. Forty one percent say

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Speaker 2: they struggle with regular tree compliance complexities. Forty percent. You

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Speaker 2: should have seen our eighteen year old yesterday. She's got

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Speaker 2: a job and she's got to sign a contract, and

601
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Speaker 2: we were working through what a contract is, how a

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Speaker 2: contract works, what taxes, what withholding taxes. It was the

603
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Speaker 2: best fun ever. Forty percent say it's a struggle simply.

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Speaker 2: I won't get her on too. I hope she's not

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Speaker 2: looking to expand overseas, because it can tell you that's

606
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Speaker 2: going to blow her mind. Forty percent say it's a

607
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Speaker 2: struggle simply because of where we are in the world

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Speaker 2: compared with where the main overseas markets are. Part of

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Speaker 2: that comes with international banking services while here in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: and also the high costs involved with all of that,

611
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Speaker 2: and because of these international costs forty one percent, so

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Speaker 2: they've increased the price of what they sell. Twenty eight

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Speaker 2: percent so they've dropped the amount that they can pay staff,

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Speaker 2: and thirty six percent have reduced the amount they can

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Speaker 2: invest in the business. That's a good pay negotiation. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to pay you more, but have you seen

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Speaker 2: the price of international banking that I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to pay you more, but account anyway, So

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Speaker 2: what are these international fees? Well, the irony is most

620
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Speaker 2: people don't know fifty two percent, so they've got absolutely

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Speaker 2: no idea what they're paying for. What an excellent business model?

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Speaker 2: On average a third we'll spend about five thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: on international payment fees, and thirty nine percent it will

624
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Speaker 2: spend more than five thousand dollars. He me ask you

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Speaker 2: this question. A lot of people accuse me of being

626
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Speaker 2: a snob. Hard to believe, I know, But say I

627
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Speaker 2: say to you on the radio this morning, I'm going

628
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Speaker 2: to go and buy a bottle of wine today and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to spend six hundred bucks. You're immediately going

630
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Speaker 2: to go, what sort of world are you living in?

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Speaker 2: You ponts, aren't you?

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Speaker 13: Now? You took the words right out of my mouth precisely.

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Speaker 2: So, the average person today, allegedly according to price wise,

634
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Speaker 2: is going to spend six hundred dollars on Black Friday. Now,

635
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Speaker 2: if you go and spend your six hundred dollars on

636
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Speaker 2: average on crap and look at it, just in a

637
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Speaker 2: pile of crap. And I've gone and board a six

638
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars bottle of wine, and I'm going to open

639
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Speaker 2: that tonight and thoroughly enjoy at least some of it.

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Speaker 2: And if my wife's out all of it. Now, who's

641
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: the winner here? Am I a snob for spending six

642
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: hundred dollars on something really good that I'll enjoy and

643
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: we'll get something back from Or are you the winner

644
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: because you just found a whole lot of really useless

645
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Speaker 2: crap from third world countries that you can spread about

646
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Speaker 2: the place, probably lose half of it'll break, and the

647
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: other half you'll forget all about who's the winner?

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Speaker 13: I feel like there might be a happy medium in

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Speaker 13: there where some people just you know, really make a

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Speaker 13: dent in their Christmas shopping.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's just I'm just in flying a few ideas

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Speaker 2: around the place.

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Speaker 13: You're giving a good deal on that bottle, by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, could be maybe not.

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Speaker 1: It's Black Friday, setting the news agenda and digging into

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Speaker 1: the issues. The mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover.

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Speaker 1: The la designed to intrigue and use.

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Speaker 2: Togs'd be only seven past seven. So the government did

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Speaker 2: release the COVID report despite any number of indications they

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Speaker 2: were not going to. So we've got a lot of pages,

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Speaker 2: a lot of recommendations. Will it make a jot of

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Speaker 2: difference next time around? Form a treasury set. Gregory National

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Speaker 2: Health Board member in New Zealand Initiative senior fellow these days,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Murray horns with us Murray morning, good morning mart

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Speaker 2: If this was it, in other words, we weren't doing

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Speaker 2: phase two? Is it comprehensive enough?

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Speaker 11: I don't think so, and I think it misses some

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Speaker 11: big points. I think my view of it is at

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Speaker 11: a fairly and I've only read this summary, okay, so

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Speaker 11: I haven't read the full in how many other pages

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Speaker 11: it is, but I think it's quite a generous assessment

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Speaker 11: of what went on, and I think it misses a

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Speaker 11: couple of really big points. The first point I would

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Speaker 11: make is that it doesn't really pick up the fact

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Speaker 11: that the damaged done to the economy and to people's

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Speaker 11: trust in government and so on and so on was

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Speaker 11: more It was more serious than it needed to be,

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Speaker 11: because the public health response was weaker than it should

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Speaker 11: have been, and Secondly, I think you know, clearly we

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Speaker 11: overdid the stimulus, right, the government overdid this somewhere, and

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Speaker 11: we're paying for that now, and we'll pay for that

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Speaker 11: in terms of higher levels of debt, more inflation, the

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Speaker 11: recessions that need to be that we're going through to

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Speaker 11: try and get that inflation down. So you know the

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Speaker 11: fact that you know New Zealand the economy seemed to

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Speaker 11: bounce back strongly, Yeah, well it's got to help.

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Speaker 2: That's what happens when you print money.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's right, and yeah, and and you run up debt.

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Speaker 11: So you know, I think that there's a there's a

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Speaker 11: there's an important lesson there that we could have had

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Speaker 11: less locked fewer, fewer lockdowns, less severe lockdowns of the

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Speaker 11: public health response had have been had it been better.

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Speaker 11: And I'm thinking there about things like better testing, contact tracing,

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Speaker 11: you know, improving the health system's ability to cope. Using

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Speaker 11: private partners with their expertise, that we tend to help

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Speaker 11: a whole lot of things that we should have been doing.

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Speaker 11: And even though we were badly prepared to begin with,

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Speaker 11: we didn't seem to learn much as we met went along,

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Speaker 11: And I think that brings us to My second point,

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Speaker 11: and probably the biggest missing of the looking forward part

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Speaker 11: of it, is that the politicization of the execution of

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Speaker 11: the strategy led to the lack of adaptation and agility

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Speaker 11: in response. So you know, they come out and pick

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Speaker 11: up a couple of points at Deave Gorman and I

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Speaker 11: made eighteen months ago about the need for mosses put

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Speaker 11: scenario planning and all that sort of thing and getting

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Speaker 11: ourselves in better shape for the next one. But plans

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Speaker 11: don't you know, there's a whole saying and wars and

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Speaker 11: the plans don't survive the first contact with the enemy.

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Speaker 11: So yes, you've got to have plans. You've got to

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Speaker 11: do that scenario thing. Good good suggestions that they've made,

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Speaker 11: picked up the suggestions I made eighty months ago, and

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Speaker 11: better use of the private sector as we do for

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Speaker 11: you know, farms and biosecurity farms to protect their farms inside.

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Speaker 11: But look, you don't get any of those things if

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Speaker 11: the government takes over the execution wants to claim that

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Speaker 11: the best in the world, and monopoly untruth has spin

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Speaker 11: on everything, marginalized criticism and monopolized execution, which is what

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Speaker 11: they did, and none of that, none of that sort

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Speaker 11: of chest beating and propagandizing is conducive to admitting shortcomings,

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Speaker 11: to learning from them, to adapting your response, so you know,

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Speaker 11: it leads to a sort of add or you know

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Speaker 11: where we got to a sort of a fear based

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Speaker 11: at or cross type approach, which which excludes you know,

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Speaker 11: the private sector, which which which doesn't emit error and

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Speaker 11: learn from them.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. It's exactly what we came to. And I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to murray whether we actually needed to report because

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Speaker 2: most of us came to that conclusion sometime ago. Of course,

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Speaker 2: all by ourselves, didn't we, Murray Horn are good to

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Speaker 2: having won the program eleven past seven past get Change

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Speaker 2: in the workplace. Cabinets agreed that if we earn more

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Speaker 2: than one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year, you

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Speaker 2: won't be able to raise an unjustified dismissal claim. It's

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Speaker 2: interesting this, what's it about a workplace relation safety? Minister

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Speaker 2: Brook van Belden's with us, Brook morning.

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Speaker 16: Good morning mate, Just.

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Speaker 2: Real quick on the COVID thing, given you're in charge

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Speaker 2: of face too. The story I read Minister to sit

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Speaker 2: on COVID Royal Commission report for months as reported by

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Speaker 2: a newsroom, and everyone ran with that. You weren't supposed

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Speaker 2: to release it yesterday and you did. How did that

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Speaker 2: all play out?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Look, Mike, I think this really comes down to what

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Speaker 16: I hear a lot of, which is a trust and media.

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Speaker 16: This is just a classic example. Many many months ago,

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Speaker 16: newsroom approached an office that wasn't mine and asked what

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Speaker 16: I was going to do with the report. Someone in

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Speaker 16: that office who didn't know me said I was going

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Speaker 16: to sit on it till twenty twenty six, and newsroom

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Speaker 16: ran with that. And you know, sometimes miss information can

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Speaker 16: go circle the globe a few times before it actually

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Speaker 16: comes back to you.

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Speaker 2: Did you come back? Any of you go wrong? Corrected?

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Speaker 16: We did, and they did actually publish a correction, but

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Speaker 16: then was up there the concusion was laid. But I've been,

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Speaker 16: you know, for the last months or so, definitely going

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Speaker 16: to release it as.

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Speaker 2: You should have, because it's ours after all. Now, right,

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Speaker 2: this business? What's the point of this? So if you

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Speaker 2: were one hundred and ninety thousand dollars, you can opt in.

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Speaker 2: I note so, But but what's the point.

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Speaker 16: So what it is here is it's really paving the

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Speaker 16: way for the next generation of leadership. You know, one

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Speaker 16: of the classic cases of grievance I hear from business

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Speaker 16: is you want to take a chance on someone, but

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Speaker 16: you're too afraid something goes wrong. How on earth it

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Speaker 16: will all work out? And so what this says is,

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Speaker 16: you know, you've got someone in the workforce who's maybe

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Speaker 16: quite skilled, got a good attitude, but if you push

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Speaker 16: them up to that next leadership level into management, you know,

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Speaker 16: if it doesn't work out and they aren't a good fit,

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Speaker 16: this allows you to move on. I think that's really

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Speaker 16: positive for the next generation coming through. So the other

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Speaker 16: part of this is I'm sure there'll be many people

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Speaker 16: listening who have worked with a manager who has led

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Speaker 16: to poor productivity, low morale, and the boss and the

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Speaker 16: workers are just sitting there waiting for this person for

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Speaker 16: years and years to want to move on, and this

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Speaker 16: will boost productivity and culture within our workplaces.

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Speaker 2: The one eighty is tied to the top tax rate.

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Speaker 16: I take that's right, but it will only be for

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Speaker 16: the first year because then it will be indexed with

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Speaker 16: wage growth. What we're not aiming for here is that

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Speaker 16: in twenty years time, when wages have continued to grow,

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Speaker 16: everybody's been captured by this, but it is for the

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Speaker 16: top earners. It's around three point five percent of New

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Speaker 16: Zealand's workforce.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, you have a good week. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: Brook van Velden. Quite a bit of reaction to my

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Speaker 2: six hundred dollars bottle of wine. Can I just with

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Speaker 2: the record say there is no six hundred dollar bottle

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Speaker 2: of wine. It was a theoretical exercise. If you're going

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Speaker 2: to spend six hundred dollars, want to spend it on

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Speaker 2: and experience or crap anyway more fourteen past the.

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Speaker 2: Lease Minister Mark Mitchell after seven thirty two and Cady

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Speaker 2: after righte seventeen past seven research from our are you

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Speaker 2: really Surprised? File? Seventy three percent of online booze orders

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Speaker 2: are being delivered without ID being checked. In some instances,

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Speaker 2: it's arriving on the doorsteps within seventeen minutes. Alcohol Health

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Speaker 2: Watch executive director Andrew Galloway is with us on this.

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Speaker 11: Andrew, good morning, Bording, Mike, carry you.

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Speaker 2: Very well, thank you. Seventeen minutes is actually good because

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Speaker 2: if you tried using a caurier lately. It's a miracle.

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Speaker 11: Well, you could look at it from a customer zero

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Speaker 11: station perspective.

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Speaker 2: So exactly seventy three percent. See, I got Booze to

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Speaker 2: the house ID and actually other people did, but Booze

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Speaker 2: came to the house this a number of times. Because

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Speaker 2: we're doing Christmas shopping, right, no one checks, and to

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Speaker 2: expect them to check as delusional, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: Look? Alcohol is in New Zealand's my typical drug, so

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Speaker 11: I think we just need to look at it from

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Speaker 11: their perspective as well. When the sale unsplored alcohol like

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Speaker 11: twenty twelve was developed, it was developed for a brick

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Speaker 11: and more mortar style licensing arrangement. During COVID, one of

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Speaker 11: the other I know we're talking a lot about COVID

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Speaker 11: to day, but during over one of the things that

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Speaker 11: grew quite rapidly was home delivery. For obvious reasons. When

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Speaker 11: in Lockdown's almost one in five reported using online delivery

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Speaker 11: for alcoulture and COVID, It's understandable, but that trend to

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Speaker 11: keep he delivery and continue delivery is health continued. So

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Speaker 11: I think when we look at some of these results

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Speaker 11: seventy three percent of alcohol. Like you say, whether it

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Speaker 11: without age verification forty nine percent left contact list at

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Speaker 11: the door. While you could say that's pragmatic, we do

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Speaker 11: have really high harms from alcohol nine hundred mon deaths

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Speaker 11: per year, twenty nine thousand hospitalizations, one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 11: thousand acc claims. So it's not without alcohol and it's

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Speaker 11: not an ordinary commodity, always saying really, the recommendation from

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Speaker 11: this is we probably need to lot the regulations with

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Speaker 11: developed But.

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Speaker 2: How would you do that though, because it's like going

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Speaker 2: online and ordering in the first place. Are you over eighteen? Click? Yes,

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Speaker 2: whether you are or not. It's like the Australians thinking

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Speaker 2: they're going to ban under sixteen year olds from social media.

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Speaker 2: Are you over sixteen? Yes? Click? You can't get around it.

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Speaker 11: Correct. It's not a full proof system with a quick

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Speaker 11: box online. And I went on one remote delivery site

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Speaker 11: last night and it just is if you order, we

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Speaker 11: assume that you are. So it's I think they have

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Speaker 11: done it in many states in Australia, neighboring jurisdiction put

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Speaker 11: time delays on when it is delivered. What we do

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Speaker 11: know from delivery alcohol is that it can extend a

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Speaker 11: drinking session. People can drink more than they intended too,

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Speaker 11: and android heavs. So I think there can be some

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Speaker 11: simple things done just through a bit of regulation that

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Speaker 11: can produce some of those those harms.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Andrew, appreciate it very much. Andrew Galloway, Alcohol Health

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Speaker 2: Watch executive Director, You're not a snob mark buying a

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Speaker 2: six hundred dollars bottle of wine. Reiteration, I didn't buy one.

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Speaker 2: It's theoretical you're a snob for calling my six hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars purchase crap. What it was I had in mind

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Speaker 2: is a series of things you purchased for six hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars seventeen fifty here, twenty three, ninety five over there,

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Speaker 2: eighteen sixty three over there, and just a collection of rubbish.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 2: paint a picture in your mind as to the value

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Speaker 2: of expenditure. Mic, some of your Black Friday stuff may

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Speaker 2: end up in the rubbish bin, but all yours is

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Speaker 2: going to end up down the Duney John, interesting question

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Speaker 2: and point, But what about the experience of it? If

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Speaker 2: you love wine, if you're a wine collector and say,

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Speaker 2: with your six hundred dollars Black Friday money, you buy

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Speaker 2: something you never thought you'd ever have, and you experience that,

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Speaker 2: and you remember that for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: That's not down the toilet at all, Isn't It isn't

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Speaker 2: the experience of value as well?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 13: What if you're a shopping enthusiast and you get a

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Speaker 13: buzz out of buying Star one hundred percent?

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Speaker 2: And how do you think retail works for me? Six

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Speaker 2: twenty one.

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Speaker 2: about the bowling? Matt Henry is he going to be

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Speaker 2: eighteen bet responsibly seven twenty four. Time now to mark

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Speaker 2: the week. Little piece of using current events that draws

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Speaker 2: a bigger crowd than I show speed are the war

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Speaker 2: six As far as a reason for hope, not a

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Speaker 2: lot of that has been floating about the place recently.

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Speaker 2: The UK election petition four small clue they already had

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Speaker 2: one of those. It's called an election can to sign

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Speaker 2: three hiding hiding behind an Australian excuse shows a lack

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Speaker 2: of gonutes. The COVID inquiry for are because the coverage

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Speaker 2: of what I would argue was as big a deal

907
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Speaker 2: as anything this year was was scant to say the

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Speaker 2: least Capital gains tax six. The debate and the vote

909
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Speaker 2: this weekend tell you what if Labour want to enhance

910
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Speaker 2: their chances off two, if not three terms in opposition.

911
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Speaker 2: Yes is the way to vote the coalition first year

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Speaker 2: seven some good progress, some good cooperation, not a lot

913
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Speaker 2: of fallout, but lacking the real bite that has needed

914
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Speaker 2: to turn the shambles around. Must try harder. TJ. Perrinarra four.

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Speaker 2: We didn't talk about the game or the tour, and

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Speaker 2: that's why it was a problem. Cadillacs seven number eleven

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Speaker 2: and f one growing every year. It's a sporting model

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Speaker 2: to follows Sport New Zealand's review though seven clearly the

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Speaker 2: government smells wastage, not a model to follow the ocr

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Speaker 2: six because it was the least they could do given

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Speaker 2: how they've wrecked the joint Black Friday three. Look, I'll

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Speaker 2: give you forty bucks forty bucks off your next purchase

923
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Speaker 2: if you never mention it again. Adele four. Hello, when

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Speaker 2: you get exhausted working Fridays and Saturdays only, you might

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Speaker 2: want to have a look at your work ethic Dei six.

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Speaker 2: Another employer this week, Walmart, because the employer in the

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Speaker 2: world actually says that that particular bad nightmare is over.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it funny how these things are so critical until

929
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Speaker 2: they out Karmela one.

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Speaker 11: Don't you ever let anyby take your power from you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I don't normally side with social media,

932
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Speaker 2: but the pile one is spot on. She looks crazy.

933
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Speaker 2: And that is the week copies on the website. And

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Speaker 2: if you listen carefully, two lines from last week's edition

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Speaker 2: of this have made it into the fortieth anniversary edition

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Speaker 2: of Feed the World, asking Mike, the tat and the

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Speaker 2: burn is nowhere near as environmentally friendly as one down

938
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Speaker 2: the duney. That is so true. And the bottle is recyclable.

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Speaker 2: See now you're on board, my well said, I thoroughly

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Speaker 2: enjoyed my a five wagu steak from a restaurant. I

941
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Speaker 2: think it was about three hundred dollars just for the steak.

942
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Speaker 2: I still think about it to this day. See now

943
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Speaker 2: you're with me. You're exactly right, Mike. It's much better

944
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Speaker 2: to spend money on experience like food and wine than

945
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Speaker 2: cheap junk. Mike, what is the wine Burgundy or Bordeaux?

946
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Speaker 2: There is no wine, Phil That Bordeau would be your

947
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Speaker 2: answer if I was going down there.

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Speaker 13: It's a particular one.

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Speaker 2: It's a particular one year Pavey little party, Pa vie,

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Speaker 2: look it up if you want to go crazy. Mike,

951
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Speaker 2: the discussion with Brooke on one hundred and eighty K

952
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Speaker 2: didn't actually tell us what the change means. I thought

953
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Speaker 2: it didn't. If it didn't, I apologize essentially what it means.

954
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Speaker 2: If you're at the upper echelons of employment, in other words,

955
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Speaker 2: you're earning big money, they can put you into the

956
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Speaker 2: job and it's kind of like the ninety day trial

957
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Speaker 2: period for starters. It's like, mate, we put you in there,

958
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Speaker 2: we thought you were going to be good. You turned

959
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Speaker 2: out to be a dickhead. You got to go and

960
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Speaker 2: instead of me going, what, I'm brilliant, I'm going to

961
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Speaker 2: take a trip. You know you can't do that. That's

962
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Speaker 2: how it just means it's easier to move the people

963
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Speaker 2: that don't want me more on, and the easier that is,

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Speaker 2: the better as far as I'm concerned. Mark Mitchell, Good

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Speaker 2: Day in the Bay is with as up of the News,

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Speaker 2: which is next.

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Speaker 1: You're trust at Home for News for Entertainment's Opinion and

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Speaker 1: Mike The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your

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Speaker 1: local experts across residential, commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Toks Head be, Mike, it would be great if the

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Speaker 2: one eighty k extends to politicians on a bed point Mark, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted a jute box, such a cool thing

973
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Speaker 2: to have in my music room. Rosie, buy one life

974
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: short morning. Mike's same reason for many of us spending

975
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Speaker 2: thousands of dollars traveling to Europe every year for a

976
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Speaker 2: bike ride. It's for the experience. I take your point, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I think a good analogy for the six hundred dollars

978
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Speaker 2: bottle of wine, which I'm on board with, by the way,

979
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Speaker 2: because the experience is almost certainly worth it. As a

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Speaker 2: concert ticket, I love going to concerts while living overseas,

981
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Speaker 2: but gigs in New Zealand four the big name extra

982
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Speaker 2: and extortionate prices, but I can't believe people will pay,

983
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Speaker 2: but they do. It's a very good point. You buy

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Speaker 2: a couple of tickets to a concert, you' boot well

985
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Speaker 2: over six hundred dollars twenty three minutes away from eight

986
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Speaker 2: come Tim Katie late, of course. Meantime, Big Gay in

987
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: the Babe of the Coppers as a large number of

988
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Speaker 2: gang members turn up for another one of their funerals.

989
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: As time under new laws around gangs. Of course, fourteen

990
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Speaker 2: arrests were made. An old woman I saw yelled at

991
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Speaker 2: the police there for a while that overall it seemed

992
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Speaker 2: a lot more contained than say a potoguy last year.

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Speaker 2: The Minister of Police, Mark Mitchell's.

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Speaker 10: Back with us.

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Speaker 2: Morning mate, Good morning Mike. That Tim Anderson bloke, he's

996
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: the goods.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, he's an outstanding district commander and yeah, I agree

998
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 17: with you completely, very proactive out on the street, engaged

999
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 17: with his front line, sort of leading from the front,

1000
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Speaker 17: and that's what we need.

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00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to make this too political, but I

1002
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: look at somebody like him talking. He seems to have

1003
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: a spring in his step. In other words, what he's

1004
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: doing now is policing the way he wants to police,

1005
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: and you've given him the laws to do that. Is

1006
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: that fair?

1007
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 17: I can't talk for but what I would say is

1008
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 17: that just about every police officer that I know has

1009
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 17: joined the police to keep the public safe, and when

1010
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 17: they've given the tools and the ability to be able

1011
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 17: to do that, then they'll respond. And that's what scene.

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00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: How much did you get yesterday? Somebody said there was

1013
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: a sawn off shotgun? Was there a bit of that

1014
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: about the place.

1015
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, there were firearms, illegal firearms that were recovered. I

1016
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Speaker 17: don't know the exact number, but yes, without doubt they

1017
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 17: were illegal forums.

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00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: How is it that under the new laws that I'm

1019
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: assuming they know about, Maybe they don't, But they turn

1020
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: up to a funeral with some guns in their cars,

1021
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: knowing the police are going to be there, What do

1022
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Speaker 2: they think is going to happen?

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00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 17: Well, you know exactly.

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Speaker 14: You know.

1025
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Speaker 17: That's the whole point is that if they want to

1026
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 17: go like most kiwis do, if they go into a

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Speaker 17: funeral or a tonguey, they do it in a respectful way,

1028
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 17: then you won't have any contact with the police. But

1029
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 17: if you choose to come out, take over public roads,

1030
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 17: abuse and timidate people carry illegal firearms, then you know

1031
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 17: that the police are going to make sure the rest

1032
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Speaker 17: of the public are safe. And that's exactly what they're doing.

1033
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: Are they buy and large cooperative the gangs now that

1034
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: they know.

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Speaker 17: What there's been a very high level of compliance, so

1036
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 17: they are the gangs are actually trying to respond. I

1037
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 17: think fundamentally they don't want to draw attention to themselves,

1038
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 17: certainly the leaders that they're running the organized crime groups.

1039
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Speaker 17: So there has been a high level of compliance. You're

1040
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 17: probably going to get some of the younger ones that

1041
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 17: aren't thinking too much about it that we'll try and

1042
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 17: you know that won't comply. But the police will respond

1043
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 17: to that. And we've seen the strong response from our police.

1044
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 17: I've listened for the last twelve months the narrative and

1045
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 17: the media being that our police aren't strong enough and

1046
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 17: they're not capable of Dean of the gangs. The gains

1047
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 17: are too strong. You've seen a clear response from the

1048
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 17: police in the last week on that they're doing an

1049
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 17: outstanding job.

1050
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: While I've got you this rapid review report that's floating

1051
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: around that says that you can, you know, kill your

1052
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: five hundred extra cops, promise and you'll save some money.

1053
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Speaker 2: But what's the point of a review like that in

1054
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: the sense that I could tell you that if you

1055
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Speaker 2: didn't hire five hundred people you would save money.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, no, I think that. Obviously the Treasury have done

1057
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Speaker 17: a rapid review and they'll come forward with some recommendations.

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Speaker 17: It doesn't mean that those recommends will be acted upon.

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00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 17: And we've committed to the additional five hundred police officers

1060
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Speaker 17: and that's a firm commitment and we're well on track

1061
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Speaker 17: to delivering those right.

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Speaker 2: The five hundred is that now that you're in charge.

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00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: Is the five hundred because they're actually needed or is

1064
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: the five hundred a political thing that you said at

1065
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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 17: No, you can always look, you can always have more

1067
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 17: police officers on the front line without a doubt, and

1068
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 17: they'll be they'll be welcome with open arms. And you

1069
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 17: know we're doing things like increasing visibility with beat teams.

1070
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 17: We've got our gang disruption units, so you know they

1071
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 17: will be welcoming the stations and it's a good commitment.

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00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 17: And the great thing is we've got a really strong

1073
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 17: pipeline of people wanting to join the police good and

1074
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 17: will and we're will on track for delivering.

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Speaker 2: Mat Go well, have a good weekend. See Mark Minchell,

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00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: police minister with us this morning. It is nineteen minutes

1077
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: away from a subjected gangs not the gangs as we know,

1078
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: but it's different sort of gangs. If you want a

1079
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: bit of reading over the weekend, this ongoing union slash

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Speaker 2: gang problem in Australia. The headline that got me in

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Speaker 2: I got it's a philly, lengthy old piece. It was

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Speaker 2: under the headlines Bike's run a muck in the CFMEU

1083
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: and they're not going to leave quietly. They were getting

1084
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: to guard a site. So what's happened If you haven't

1085
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 2: followed it, and it's well worth reading, it's just unbelievable.

1086
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: Everything that's been built in Australia is cost extra because

1087
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: the unions are run by gangs. And so there was

1088
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: an empty site and the lads from the union slash

1089
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: gang members said, don't worry, we'll look after that site

1090
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: and no problem for you. Four thousand dollars a day

1091
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: and I want free sevlaki and they got it. And

1092
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: that's just how it works in Australia. So read the

1093
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: article Bike's run a muck in the CFMEU and they're

1094
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: not going to leave quietly. It's unbelievable. Eighteen to eight The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: Brid to tell your coffee prices on the futures market.

1098
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: Currently there are two lots of futures markets. One is

1099
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: in London and they deal with the I always I can't.

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00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why I always struggle to say the

1101
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: word Arabica. Why do I always struggle to say that anyway.

1102
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: Arabica beans they deal with that. They're they're at up

1103
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: four point seven percent, three twenty three a pound. They

1104
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: do it. And in London they do deal with the

1105
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: robust beans. They're up seven point seven percent at fifty

1106
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars a ton. So, in other words, they've

1107
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: never seen prices like this before. Obviously, the climate and

1108
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: the EU rules around deforestation mean that your coffee is

1109
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: getting more and more expensive.

1110
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 13: Have you considered growing your own on your estate? Getting

1111
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 13: into coffee? Now that you.

1112
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: It's you probably thought that was a silly question, but

1113
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 2: it's not actually because I don't think I can. Because

1114
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: I've just got my current avocado tree that we've got

1115
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: planted three lost two so that's now going well. And

1116
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: so the next thing is how much further down the

1117
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 2: track to I experiment? Do I do coffee? Do I

1118
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: do cherries? These things I am thinking about at the moment.

1119
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 13: I'd be more keen on coffee than Yeah, I would

1120
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 13: be too personally. But a coffee seed's a lot more

1121
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 13: useful than a cherry stone.

1122
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: That's very true. Did you see the program Mike on

1123
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Saint James's and the amazing shops in London. Funnily enough,

1124
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: I did, and not only I saw it advertised and

1125
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: I thought, do you know what that could be a

1126
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: bit of me? And I recorded it and I watched

1127
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: a little bit of it yesterday afternoon when I got

1128
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: home from the hairdresser. And if you didn't see it,

1129
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: it's on TV one, which I assume means it's on

1130
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: TV and said streaming, and they need all the help

1131
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: they can get, so watch that this afternoon and it's

1132
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: just lovely London, and it's shot in summer clearly, and

1133
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: he wanted Saint James is that area of German Street,

1134
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: Saint James's itself, that whole area that sort of Piccadilly

1135
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: down to Saint James's Palace. It's absolutely beautiful, Mike, do

1136
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: you get a bit of quality hangover seats? But a

1137
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: lot of people you're talking about hangover, you don't drink

1138
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: wine for hangovers. And it's a well known fact that

1139
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: some of you, if you're dealing with the expense of

1140
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 2: bottles of wines from France, the alcohol content's a lot lower.

1141
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: And people didn't know that originally when Claret was sort

1142
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: of made many many years ago, and you're going back

1143
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 2: to the seventeen hundreds. It was all shipped out in barrels.

1144
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: They didn't bottle it, and the poms got into it,

1145
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: and the pom said, we need some good plant. Where

1146
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: do we get the plank from? I know, We'll go

1147
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: to the French. They make some good stuff. And you

1148
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: can go back to Hope Bonne and La Tour with

1149
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: the original claret producers back in the seventeen hundreds, and

1150
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: it came out in big wooden barrels and they served

1151
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: it in pubs and stuff like that, and it was

1152
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: around eleven twelve percent alcohol, which is completely different to

1153
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: some of the sixteen percent as you're getting out of

1154
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: places like South Australia today in the Chiraz department, Mike,

1155
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: if you watch by Now on Netflix. I haven't, but

1156
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm wondering whether it's a bit earnest. So much crap produced,

1157
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: so much crap that can't be fixed or recycled, Apple

1158
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: producing earbuds and batteries that can't be changed, commercialism gone mad.

1159
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: There is a lot of that, which is sort of

1160
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: one of the underlying things I'm trying to point out

1161
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: this morning. And we're going to talk more about Black

1162
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: Friday in a moment. But if you're going to spend money,

1163
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: the quality of the spend is the critical now Number one.

1164
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: I would argue that if you get genuine pleasure and

1165
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: enjoyment from the expenditure, then who cares what it is?

1166
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: But then the next step is how long is it

1167
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: going to last? Can you pass it on to somebody else?

1168
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: Is it repairable? Is it a fad or is it

1169
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: a long term obsession of your See, there's a lot

1170
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: that goes into it, and most people don't work all

1171
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: of that. They just go, oh, it's cool, I'll buy that.

1172
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 13: See if I spend all my six hundred dollars on

1173
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 13: the high alcohol shirazzes that you were talking about, sure,

1174
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 13: then very quickly I won't be worried about any of

1175
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 13: that stuff.

1176
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: Could be burther that it is. Let's talk more about

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: Black Friday in a moment. Eleven away from it.

1178
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Speaker 1: The my costly repasts with the Range River, the last news.

1179
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Speaker 2: Top ele minutes away from it. I'm not sure if

1180
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: you're aware of it, but it's Black Friday. It feels

1181
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: like it's been Black Friday, of course for about a

1182
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: year and a half. Increasingly Black Friday, though Cyber Monday

1183
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: at playing an outsize role in this retail sector of ours.

1184
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: Price spy. As I've said this morning, you're expecting the

1185
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: average person to spend about six hundred bucks today. Retail

1186
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: New Zealand Boss Carol and Young is with us CA

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Speaker 2: and very good morning.

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Speaker 18: To you, Mona, Mike, how are you very well?

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00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: Thank you? How much of Black Friday is just noise

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00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: and how much of it's real in terms of what

1191
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: it needs to do for you know, your average shopkeeper

1192
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: absolutely real.

1193
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 18: You know, we're in that time of year when sales

1194
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 18: are critical and it's become a really key focus for

1195
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 18: that real postion to that Christmas period. So now it's

1196
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 18: an absolute key marker for retail in New Zealand.

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00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: Do you have like do you send out an email

1198
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: to your to your members to go, hey, guys, don't

1199
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: do specials that aren't specials? Is that a thing all

1200
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: that sort of beyond you?

1201
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 18: Well, we always talk about making sure that you are understanding,

1202
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 18: you know, how you're advertising and ensuring that you're complying

1203
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 18: with the Consumer Guarantees Act and the Fair Trading Act

1204
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 18: implicit underlying things that businesses.

1205
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 11: Need to comply to right.

1206
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: What about the sectors within the sectors? Who does well

1207
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: on Black Friday versus other people are in a sector

1208
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: that you know makes no difference.

1209
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 18: I think, you know, food and growthroy fuel, those sort

1210
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 18: of sectors are probably you know, it doesn't make a

1211
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 18: significant difference in those sort of spaces. But you will have,

1212
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 18: you know, areas within sectors where stores really go hard

1213
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 18: out with a key headline special to get people in

1214
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 18: store that they'll buy that item and then they'll come

1215
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 18: across and get some others. And there's a couple of

1216
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 18: different strategies. You'll have noticed stores during this yere Some

1217
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 18: are really focused on the five days between Thursday and

1218
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 18: Monday this week, and others have been on sale for

1219
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 18: a couple of weeks, and different strategies are working for

1220
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 18: different stores. But speaking to some retailers this week that

1221
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 18: have been on sale for a week or so, said,

1222
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 18: you know, next year, actually we'll probably just do the

1223
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 18: shortened period because it's you know, it's just an elongated

1224
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 18: period of time where you're making the same number of sales.

1225
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 18: So they want to concentrate really and get people focused

1226
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 18: so that people come in during that time.

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00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: What's your vibe on the appetite for spending. Do you

1228
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: think we're into it.

1229
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 18: I think it's next, Really, I do think it's next, Mike.

1230
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 18: There's some people that have senior disposed of income and

1231
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 18: you know, their appetite spend is the same as it's

1232
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 18: always been. But we know a lot of people are

1233
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 18: doing it hard. We look at the numbers. You know,

1234
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 18: retailers are often about discretionary spend and it's been a

1235
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 18: really tough couple of years for consumers and retailers and

1236
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 18: so that it's really tough out there. So I think

1237
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 18: people you know, do like to go to the shops

1238
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 18: and they do like to buy things. It's about, you know,

1239
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 18: what can they afford to buy. But it's a really

1240
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 18: good time for people to be thinking about, you know,

1241
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 18: the Christmas shopping and gifts for far now and it's good,

1242
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 18: good opportunity to get something on sale.

1243
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: Iber goes wealth. You Carolyn, appreciate it, Carolyn Young Retail,

1244
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Of course five minutes away from it. Order

1245
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: a cherry tree now, Mike, They're in high demand. We

1246
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: missed out last year. Top tip. I'm too far north. Unfortunately,

1247
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: you should go to Weaponay and do the martinsend on tour.

1248
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: I going to mate who did that, said it was fantastic.

1249
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 10: Mike.

1250
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: The funny thing about the Saint James's program was a

1251
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: staff member at Piccadilly Vaults is a dead ring it

1252
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: to our minus for finance. Bob, You're one hundred percent right,

1253
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: and wasn't Piccadilly Volts as a shop extraordinary? Just amazing, Mike,

1254
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: you're too far north for cherry.

1255
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 11: See.

1256
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: I told you I was. You didn't need to text that.

1257
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: I already knew that because I just said it on

1258
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 2: the radio. Mike, I think you need two avocado trees.

1259
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: You're right, But Carol, what you got to understand is

1260
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: we had two avocado trees and one died, and then

1261
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: we planted another one and that died too. So then

1262
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: we've suddenly got the one that's come back to life.

1263
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: So we've got that on in the intensive care and

1264
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: so once we get that up and running, then we'll

1265
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: do the second one, because you need a pair to

1266
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: produce the fruit. Of course, Mike, I was thinking about

1267
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: you when I watched that television program. Is that where

1268
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: you bought your shoes for the coronation? Yes, it is

1269
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: that Saint James's area is actually technically on Sable Row,

1270
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: which I don't think technically is in Saint James the Square,

1271
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: but it's in the same area.

1272
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 13: It's just a good place to buy six hundred dollar

1273
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 13: bottles of wine.

1274
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: You can buy a six hundred dollars bottle of wine

1275
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: in that it was particular in that particular part of London.

1276
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: Glent very good. You buy a nice cigar, a bottle

1277
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: of wine, a fantastic six set of shoes and some

1278
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: antiques and you can, you know, and you can go

1279
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: get your your your go Triffet and Hill and have

1280
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: a shave. I'll charge one hundred and six pounds for

1281
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: a shave at Truefitt and Hill, oldest oldest barber in

1282
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: the world.

1283
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 13: I'll do it for less.

1284
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: Will you do that for less? See, I wouldn't trust

1285
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: you with the blake. Thank Jim and Katie. In a

1286
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: couple of moments after the news, here a news talk.

1287
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Say the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk

1288
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: to Mike Costing, breakfast with a Veda, retirement, communities, life

1289
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: your Way, news talks, head b spend, disgrace.

1290
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: And servants persons and.

1291
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 15: You said for Firth sis.

1292
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: And do it.

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Speaker 2: This is pretty good. I quite love this.

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Speaker 10: This has Shawn me.

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Speaker 2: Very much like his bells times working hard because I

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Speaker 2: see here he's coming back from an extended hiatus. But

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Speaker 2: this is only his fourth album, so clearly after four

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Speaker 2: albums is a bit warm out. We hadn't heard anything

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty in wonder believe he does and Blee

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01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: won't play it because Glinn's like that a version at

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: the end of Hallelujah as a mina Cohen And I'd

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Speaker 2: like to hear that, but I'm not going to, of course.

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01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: My life is not my own. It is eight minutes

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Speaker 2: past eight.

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Speaker 8: David play please.

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Speaker 1: Look a weeknd review with two degrees bringing smart business

1307
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: solutions to the table just winded up.

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Speaker 15: One of the great songs at the time was.

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Speaker 2: That it absolutely is stopped.

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 10: The fifth I'm Falling made lift burfo king pausing.

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Speaker 2: That's Good's you remember we went Haitie to see Leonard Cohen?

1312
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Speaker 15: Phenomenal?

1313
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 10: Did you?

1314
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: Where was that at the concert hall? You didn't come

1315
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: round to our place. He doesn't come around anymore, but so.

1316
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 15: Hey he might if you're pouring out a bit of

1317
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 15: that six hundred dollars on. Hey, very rare for me

1318
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 15: to come to your defense on wine expenditure, because you

1319
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 15: know it's a contentious part of our relationship. But I

1320
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 15: feel the need to defend you this wanting people. You

1321
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 15: should never comment on what other people want to spend

1322
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 15: their money on. Some people buy lotto tickets, some people

1323
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 15: buy drugs, some people, by constant tickets, will travel a lot.

1324
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Speaker 15: You don't do any of those things. So if you

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01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 15: want to work hard and put six hundred dollars of

1326
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Speaker 15: your well and money towards something you will thoroughly enjoy,

1327
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 15: why why try to justify that to people who will

1328
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 15: never understand it, you know.

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Speaker 19: But here's the point point, Kate, was that was making

1330
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 19: this riping on what people were spending their money on.

1331
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 19: You're wasting your money, You're blying your dough on seventeen

1332
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 19: fifty crap from TMU blah blah blahud how about my

1333
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 19: six hundred dollars bottle of wine? And he knew he

1334
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 19: was lobbying at Grenade at the time, weren't you?

1335
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't what I was doing. What clearly happened

1336
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: with my comment was I was I was introducing a

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01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: level of sophistication that some people couldn't quite cope with

1338
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: on a Friday morning. And that was just when you

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01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: get home from your six hundred dollars, Because there are

1340
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Speaker 2: many instances in life when we would spend six hundred

1341
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: dollars and all I did was based on fact. And

1342
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: the factor is apparently each and every one of us,

1343
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: on average, is going to spend today six hundred dollars.

1344
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: So how much thought goes into it? And when you've

1345
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: done it? If I turned up with a bottle of

1346
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: wine and went, there's what I bought, you go, what

1347
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: a moron? Where see the boss came in Jason, who's

1348
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: not the most sophisticated tool in the drawer, and he

1349
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: comes in. Now that's a guy. That's a guy who

1350
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: goes out and spends six hundred dollars without even blinking

1351
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: on lotto. I'm not on lotto on lego? Right, yeah, no,

1352
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,479
Speaker 2: there's nothing well, not spending your six hundred dollars on lego.

1353
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: But he buys his lego blocks and he makes his

1354
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: rocket and then he packs it down and then he

1355
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: puts it in the ceiling, never to be seen again.

1356
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 15: So what wasson saying does he not, does he? Do

1357
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 15: you know what he called me?

1358
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: He called me a word that starts with W.

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01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 15: Yeah, I know that, I'm sure. But here's the thing.

1360
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 15: I actually found it refreshingly honest until you started apologizing

1361
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 15: for it and saying it wasn't true, which I think

1362
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 15: we all know.

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01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 19: And also, not only have I had people at the

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 19: city that's the other issue.

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Speaker 13: Not only have I had people demanding to know which

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 13: particular bottle of wine he's been talking about, and of

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 13: course it was just a hypothetical bottle of wine, and

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01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 13: then they said, is that the name of it hypothetical?

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Speaker 2: I've also had.

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Speaker 13: People now asking me what the type of chiers is

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01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 13: that I'm buying, dear, it's.

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01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 19: Actually as it's a type of wine called chateau W

1374
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 19: word that ends in R and you can obtained.

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: Here's a very good point top text. You're king Charles

1376
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: shoes are a case in point, aren't they. That's right,

1377
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: So those shoes.

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 15: Could ue I mean some people I understand because I've

1379
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 15: been one of those people who view it and go,

1380
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 15: but that's so much money to be on something you're

1381
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 15: just going to drink like it's just it's gone. Your

1382
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 15: shoes you can wear again and again and again. Do

1383
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying?

1384
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: And so I understand that you place right, and you

1385
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: should listen to Matt's. You shouldn't listen to that Matt

1386
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: guy on the afternoon show because I was driving into

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01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: the hairdresser's third Thursday, two o'clock and I was listening

1388
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: to their show and Matt was talking about the value

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Speaker 2: of experience, and so, yes, the wine is gone, but

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Speaker 2: the experience isn't.

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01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 10: Okay, But it's the experience.

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01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: Just the wine is the experience beyond it's the time

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01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: walking place.

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01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 19: And walking out to the avocado tree and reciting a

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01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 19: pole to her as you plant the wine to her.

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: I think it's to him. I think that's part of

1397
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: the problem. You're looking when you're looking at looking for peers.

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: I think that's PA bought now Here we Go, bought

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: a one thousand dollars bottle of wine when coming back

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand from Singapore, got a meal at Michael's

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: restaurant in High Street. Christ Duchu Chateau Lafitte, nineteen seventy two.

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01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: You only live with us, you see, So all of

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: those years later that they remember exactly now. Next story,

1404
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: guess who I had dinner with at Michael's restaurant? Who

1405
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 2: tell you? After the break thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It Bo Talks a B fifteen past dight.

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01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: The Weekend Review with two degrees fighting for fear for

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Speaker 1: Kiwi business.

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 11: There you go.

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: Many years ago, Mike I got drag kicking and screaming

1413
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: to Epinay for a monch and on tour. I was

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01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: a non drinker. It was the highlight though, of a

1415
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: three month European tour. You can't argue with that. Mike

1416
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: popping in ninety six to mo two tonight, it's going

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01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: to be superb pairing with some Lambshanks see Tomto's a

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: very nice wine out of why Hecky. In case you

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01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: don't know, Mike, I buy a thousand dollars a bottle

1420
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: of wine every quarter and have done so for the

1421
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: last ten years for doing well for myself and I

1422
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: totally get your point. VJ. Four thousand dollars bottles of

1423
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: wine per year for ten years. He's got forty bottles

1424
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: of a thousand dollars bottles of wine?

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01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 19: Can we actually you know what you experience as though

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01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 19: they're actually free because you go Simeon Brown an experience

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01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 19: at twenty seven this morning?

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: How old are you, Tim?

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 10: What's that?

1430
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: How old are you?

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 19: Fifty nine?

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 10: Right?

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01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: So at fifty nine you should be doing thirty to

1434
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: forty star jumps? Could you?

1435
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Speaker 19: Here's the deal when you did that challenge to Simeon

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01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 19: do your star jumps, I'll hit the deck and the

1437
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 19: press ups?

1438
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, see those you would agree with me? Would you

1439
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: press ups are way harder than star jumps?

1440
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 19: I would think so, because I could do star jumps

1441
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 19: till the cows come home.

1442
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: I think I believe that in the case. And I

1443
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: don't think you're saying anything by saying you can do

1444
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 2: a lot of star jumps. I don't think star jumps

1445
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: are hard. K Do you do star jumps every now

1446
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: and again? Don't you? What was that thing we were

1447
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: doing the other day? I did star jumps and then

1448
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: you did star jumble of wine? No, No, I'm sure

1449
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: we did some star jumps together and you laughed at me,

1450
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: and then you did some and your uncoordinated stuff like that.

1451
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: Do you think it's the coordination thing?

1452
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 15: Were we standing on one leg? I don't think we

1453
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 15: I think we were.

1454
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 2: I think we were standing on one leg doing star jumps.

1455
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: I think that's the sort of fun doing star jumps.

1456
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 15: Can I just start bring it back to what you

1457
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 15: teased before the break, which is clean.

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 10: You should see.

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Speaker 15: You never tell us who did you have dinner with it?

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 15: Michael's I'm just kidding this.

1461
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a prize. What would prob Would you

1462
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: like a six hundred dollars bottle of wine? I'll give

1463
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: you six hundred dollar bottle of wine if you get

1464
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: it right first time, Tim.

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Speaker 1: Go.

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Speaker 2: Oh golly, you will know the name instantly. So it's

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01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: a well known name.

1468
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Speaker 10: Is it?

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Speaker 13: As?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 13: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Give me a name Clark healthy? So as though I

1473
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 2: would set you in Trety twenty four and go hey,

1474
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: I tell you who I had done it with a

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01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: mypell and class. When was this oh good, no good? Clue?

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Speaker 15: Forties?

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01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: Nationally years ago, thirty years ago, maybe the late the

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Speaker 2: late nineties, early two thousands. Possibly there are the best

1479
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: feel music point out is no longer there. It was

1480
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: a very well established and magnificent restaurant owned and run

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Speaker 2: by a guy called Michael and he was the he

1482
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 2: was he was the it was the go to place.

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: One more clue, Cadie so In, the very well known politician,

1484
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Speaker 2: exceedingly well known politician, globally well known politician, but not

1485
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: as global as America as an American president.

1486
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Speaker 15: Tony Blair.

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Speaker 2: Good guess, Bob Hawk.

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 15: Oh, I knew that.

1489
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: I knew that story.

1490
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 15: I can't believe I forgot. Yeah, I knew that. I'm

1491
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Speaker 15: I'm so bummed I missed out on that six dollar

1492
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 15: bottle of wine, particularly given I don't drink, that would

1493
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 15: have been amazing.

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Speaker 2: And probably don't worry.

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 19: Don't worry, I'm gonna I'm gonna pop in a six

1496
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 19: dollar bottle of McGuigan's, Katie, I'll pop that in the curier.

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Speaker 2: You'll be okay. There we go, and probably the nicest

1498
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: dinner I've ever had, not dinner, dinner, but and he

1499
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: no one was more entertaining than him. And he told

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01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: stories that I could probably repeat given his dead without

1501
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: being libelous. But if he was alive, they'd be so libeless,

1502
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: they'd be unbelievable, even though those stories are true and

1503
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: they involve members of the royal family.

1504
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, don't don't repeat them on air or do you

1505
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 15: know that story? Well, you told me about this dinner,

1506
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 15: so I remember it.

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01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: But are we standing on one leak?

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Speaker 15: This morning.

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01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: Star jumps? Yeah, we're doing startups too, I think.

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Speaker 19: Can I say, can I just say you've raised an

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01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 19: issue though, just bringing it back to Simeon. If you

1512
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 19: know how the cops have every two years they have

1513
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 19: to do a fitness thing, why don't we have that,

1514
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 19: friend Pete.

1515
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true anymore?

1516
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 10: Course for MPs.

1517
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's true. I may be wrong,

1518
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: but I thought they did away with that once it

1519
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: got hard to you know, they couldn't find a cop

1520
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: for love nor money. I think they did away with everything.

1521
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: It used to be. Have to be five foot nine

1522
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: or ten or eight or something, and now you can

1523
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 2: be four foot three and smoke and you know they've

1524
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 2: never done anything in your life and still be a

1525
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: police officers. But you're right, we should bring it back

1526
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: for MPs. A warrant of fitness is what you're talking about,

1527
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: isn't it? Yes, A woff, yeah exactly.

1528
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 15: Can I give a brief PSA two people shopping today

1529
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 15: for Black Friday? One to the retailers fifteen percent off

1530
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 15: is not is not a sale.

1531
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: Correct.

1532
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 15: The problem is we've got so much choice internationally online

1533
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 15: now where it's seventy percent off. Everywhere that you go

1534
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 15: is like twenty percent off, like do better two. I

1535
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 15: was in the Auckland CBD yesterday O MG, and that

1536
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 15: was an experience because they are they are gentrifying all CBD,

1537
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 15: which I've been harsh about for years. So I'm a

1538
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 15: harsh critic because it's just crap. But it's getting better

1539
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 15: from the Buttom up.

1540
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 20: But the top half of us, the Don cutter Off said,

1541
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 20: the dog put its poor up and went this is

1542
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 20: over and.

1543
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 13: Blue Los canceled.

1544
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: Joe, exactly have you ever heard of I show speed? Tim?

1545
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 11: What's that?

1546
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: I show speeds a person okay, and was in the

1547
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: country this week, dear, So you don't know. Did you

1548
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: know I show speed Caddy?

1549
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 15: No, I know, I know about him being here, but

1550
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 15: I don't I didn't know about him. Hey, sorry, courier, it's.

1551
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: A of course it's a courier. Until I know it's

1552
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: a courier. That's the mcgweigans. It's the mcwegans coming to

1553
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: make sure they check your age. Caddy, say I'm not

1554
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: letting you in with the booze until you ask how

1555
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: old I am. Nice to see you guys, have a

1556
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: good weekend. It is eight twenty two.

1557
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks V.

1558
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: Now we all know the Chemists Warehouse got the low

1559
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 2: prices across the range, of course, but the old Black

1560
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: Friday savings next lev so you'll find beer than lever

1561
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: prices on these brands, brands like Swiss Loreal, Neutral Life

1562
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: and many more. You can take the MC Beauty range

1563
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 2: that's Australia's leading lux of a less brand. That's an

1564
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: incredible forty five percent off if you love the Lorel

1565
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 2: Paris Skincare range, slashing forty five percent off Chemists Warehouse,

1566
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: got twenty five percent off Sarah b Range, thirty five

1567
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: percent off of Sarno Special treat with the Little Ones.

1568
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: We got thirty percent off the Johnson's Baby range. While

1569
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: y're there, do not forget to stock up on their

1570
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 2: favorite supplements as forty percent off Clinicians, fifty percent off

1571
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: Sanderson and the toothbrush. If you're after one of those,

1572
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: this is the one they're talking about. The Colgate Pulse

1573
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 2: Series one Electric of course half price, so you'll be quick.

1574
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: Chemists Warehouse Black Friday off is end Sunday one December,

1575
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: this Sunday in other world, so hurry and store or online.

1576
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: Stop paying too much at chemist ware pasking him, said

1577
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: he did eighty push ups. We didn't get the number.

1578
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: He did aity push ups semi called bs and he

1579
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 2: said he did admit that they weren't all nosed to law,

1580
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: which of course they have to be. Mike, police a

1581
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: lot of you saying they still need to do that test,

1582
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 2: and but pleased to hear that.

1583
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 13: Actually, I mean when there's two different things. Of course

1584
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 13: you can't compare star jumps to put agree because one's strength,

1585
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 13: one's card. I couldn't agree more clearly, you should be

1586
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 13: doing a combo. Do a whole body attack and come back.

1587
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: To me, glean. Don't don't sit there within the shape

1588
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: you're in and talk to me about a body attack. Hey,

1589
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: your body has been attacked.

1590
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, I used to. I used to go to body attack.

1591
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,799
Speaker 13: I didn't say I still.

1592
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: Do, Mike, I Mike, I spent two this is this

1593
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: is takes the cake so far this morning I spent

1594
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars on a Lexus last week and

1595
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: every time I think about it, I feel sick. Never

1596
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: done anything like this for myself, but did it because

1597
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: the kids would do it. We're no longer here, so

1598
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: you did it before you went. Well, good on you.

1599
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: If you're happy, you're clearly not. You're feeling sick about it.

1600
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully you'll get over that because I tell you what,

1601
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: if you're still feeling sick about it, it's you'll need

1602
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: to do something about it. Sell it. M Murray so

1603
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe is even more crazy than some members of

1604
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: What Well One Krmela Harris, but some members of the

1605
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: Mry Party. If you're not up on that story, the

1606
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: social media band went through. One of the big names

1607
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 2: of Australian politics is quit. He's retiring, so is he

1608
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: running from a sinking ship. So it's quite a bit

1609
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: going on in Australia this morning and he's our man.

1610
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: Oh Murray alders with us after the News, which is

1611
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: next to News Talk.

1612
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 11: Seed V.

1613
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, The Mike Hosking Breakfast

1614
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: with the Range Rover bella designed to intrigue and use.

1615
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: Tom's dead be Mike, you three of the best show.

1616
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 2: You should produce a television show, sell it out every time.

1617
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: You're probably right, Mike Pickering Place off Saint James Smaller

1618
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 2: Square in London. I know Pickering Place off Saint James. Allen,

1619
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: You're quite right. Loved your program, our segment. Mike kadianton

1620
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: we hate shopping except miight to ten and garden places.

1621
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: Well fair enough, might a ten. I feel very bad

1622
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: for min to ten at the moment, given their their

1623
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: debt problems. As a good reading to be done on

1624
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: the herald of Anne Gibson's onto that they launched into

1625
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: a computer reb jig and it seems to have gone wrong,

1626
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: and so they're selling property and product and they're not

1627
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: doing well, and so I feel bad about that. And

1628
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: we've but back to the text. We spent a lot

1629
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: on fine wine and dining experiences. It's all about the experience, Annabel,

1630
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: you one hundred percent right. Twenty two minutes away from.

1631
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: Seven International Correspondence with ends in eye Insurance, Peace of

1632
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business make Murray.

1633
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 21: Olds just want to tell you man, very good morning, Michael,

1634
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 21: pretty good.

1635
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 10: Thank you for now.

1636
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: Simon Birmingham, they sort of got taken by surprise was

1637
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: mid afternoon. I happened to be watching Sky Television and

1638
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 2: they said, oh, Birmingham's going and it seemed to be

1639
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: like he said, woke up yesterday morning, called a meeting

1640
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 2: in the caucus, said I'm off. Then he gave his

1641
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 2: valedictory and that's that.

1642
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 10: Is that how it worked?

1643
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 21: Well, that's what it's the way it seems, you know.

1644
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 21: Obviously this has been sometime in the making. His wife

1645
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 21: is also involved in politics down in South Australia. He's

1646
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 21: been there for seventeen years. He's been very significant player

1647
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 21: in under Morrison. For example, he was what ministry did

1648
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 21: he have?

1649
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 10: I just forget now.

1650
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 21: But look, he's the leading moderate on the liberal side

1651
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 21: of parliament of politics in this country. He's one of

1652
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 21: the biggest moderates and him going will as being seen

1653
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 21: here this morning as gee whiz. Look at the right

1654
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 21: bearing their fans, the hard right, and they're trying to

1655
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 21: get one of their own in.

1656
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 10: Is that going to be possible. I'm not sure that.

1657
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 21: There's going to be a Senate selection down in South

1658
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 21: Australia when the next election is called. You would imagine

1659
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 21: it's going to come from the moderates, because these intra

1660
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 21: party fights over moderates, right left factions and so on,

1661
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 21: they never look good in public.

1662
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 10: Might know, so look, he's going to be missed.

1663
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 21: He's been a good, very good performer, I think for

1664
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 21: the conservative side of politics here and he will be missed,

1665
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 21: no doubt about.

1666
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: The Parliament's wrapping up, of course, and they've been madly

1667
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: trying to pass any number of bits of legislation with

1668
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: no sort of inside look at all. But the question

1669
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 2: being when do you reckon the election is because the

1670
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: word yesterday was he elbow is quite keen to go earlier,

1671
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: and he's being talked out of it.

1672
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 21: Well, I'm not privy to the internal workings of the

1673
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 21: Federal Labor Party machine, but Albaneze says last night on

1674
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 21: national television he said we're going to be back in

1675
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 21: February at least for a fortnight to look at remaining

1676
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 21: bills that it wasn't able to ram through. They got

1677
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 21: through thirty one bills last night. As you say, bucketoll scrutiny,

1678
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 21: just trust us. This will be fine on the day.

1679
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 21: But you know, the election is going to be set

1680
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 21: against the backdrop of the continuing cost of living crisis.

1681
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 21: You've got Peter Dutton riding pretty high in the polls

1682
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 21: and landing blow after blow on the government. Albanizy looks

1683
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 21: pretty cheaper though, and the big line he rolled out

1684
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 21: last night, We've got your back. This is going to

1685
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 21: be a major campaign slogan. I suggest for Labor in

1686
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 21: the election. Whenever it's called, it must be called Mike

1687
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 21: by May. As we've discussed previously. But February March.

1688
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: They you know, they got off March, haven't they. Let's

1689
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 2: say again, they got a budget in March.

1690
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 21: They got a budget in March, but there's no you

1691
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 21: know that they could bring it down. And I mean

1692
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 21: he could call an election, say on Australia Day the

1693
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 21: it's about a thirty five day minimum window, so that

1694
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 21: would take us through. Maybe you can drop a budget

1695
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 21: in the start of March and go straight to an

1696
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 21: election promising all sorts of things, you know, cost of

1697
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 21: living relief, that's the biggest item. The cost of living

1698
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 21: over here is really squeezing people big, big time.

1699
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: And I reckon he's going and I'll say he is

1700
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: in the I think he is on the latter part

1701
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: of November, because I'm a big big believer. And we've

1702
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 2: seen it with Trump and we saw it in this

1703
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: country when you do the poll and you had one

1704
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: this week. Is the country going in the right direction

1705
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 2: the moment the majority say no, your toast?

1706
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 21: And that was a very very big line from Donald Trump,

1707
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 21: wasn't it. Are you better off now than you were

1708
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 21: four years ago?

1709
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 10: You know? And if if you frame it that way,

1710
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:02,799
Speaker 10: their mums and dads.

1711
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 21: Sitting around the dining table at night, all out of

1712
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 21: Australia saying plenty, hell, we are we going to get

1713
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 21: the mortgage this week?

1714
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 10: The kids need an ushe whatever it is, and the

1715
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 10: money isn't going far enough.

1716
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 21: And that's going to be a very potent election campaign

1717
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 21: slogan for Peter Dalton, no doubt about it.

1718
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 2: Interesting is have you seen the Karmela Harris video?

1719
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 10: No? I actually meant to look at it last night

1720
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 10: and I got distracted.

1721
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 2: I was red, well, you can't answer this question. Look

1722
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: at it later today because you'll know what I mean.

1723
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: I was going to ask, who's crazy a Krmela Harris

1724
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: Oldia Thorpe? Is she literally insane?

1725
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 10: Sheathor what's her cold? Yeah?

1726
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 21: Look, I don't know, she's simply after publicity, she's getting

1727
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 21: plenty of that. Are there issues, you know, more significant

1728
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 21: health issues, perhaps because she is just she's almost out

1729
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 21: of control in the Senate. I mean, they've never seen

1730
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 21: behavior like this, you know, she stormed out of the

1731
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 21: King's speech, you know, screaming and ranting and ravings. She

1732
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 21: was banned from the Senate this week for forty eight

1733
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 21: hours the last two sitting days because she attacked Pauline

1734
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 21: Hansen's you know, there was a measure that Hansen proposed

1735
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 21: targeting Fatima Payman, who was in fact an Afghan citizen.

1736
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 21: You're not supposed to be anything other than an Australian

1737
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 21: citizen to sit in the Australian Parliament. As you know,

1738
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 21: payment was unable to renounce her Afghan citizen citizenship because

1739
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 21: the Teleban's in power back in Afghanistan, where she was born.

1740
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 21: So she accused Hanson of being a racist. Thorpe has

1741
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 21: thrown this stuff up in the air and stormed out

1742
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 21: of the chamber with a middle finger up and she

1743
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 21: was banned for two days. While she's talking around outside

1744
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 21: the open doors of the Senate wearing a T shirt

1745
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 21: I think with Palestinian slogans, howling and screaming.

1746
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: I mean, just nuts and crazy, absolutely crazy. The reason

1747
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 2: asked we had the Maori Party here, a minor party

1748
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: in our parliament. They went crazy the other day in

1749
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: the house and so they're still to deal with that.

1750
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,759
Speaker 2: And I'm hoping they'll get a band as well. Speaking

1751
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: of bands, this social thing, yes you past it, and

1752
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 2: yes every headline goes the first in the world, but literally,

1753
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: how's that going to work?

1754
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 21: But no one knows, Mike, no one has a clue.

1755
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 21: I mean, you talk to any you know, ten year old,

1756
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 21: twelve year old. Oh, we'll get around this in thirty seconds.

1757
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 21: And who's going to be held liable? Is it really

1758
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 21: going to be Elon Muskin? You know, TikTok and all.

1759
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: Of one's going to get held libel Murray. I mean,

1760
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,959
Speaker 2: it's just like this is everything that's wrong with politics.

1761
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone agrees it's a problem, and everyone agrees

1762
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: that would be nice if the social media companies pull

1763
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 2: their finger out and behave themselves a bit better. But

1764
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: the reason that's the world first is because everyone else

1765
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 2: has looked at it already and there is no answer

1766
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: to the problem. If there was, they would have done it.

1767
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 21: Indeed, so basically, anyone under the age of sixteen in

1768
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 21: Australia will be banned from social media sites, not messaging apps.

1769
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 10: No, but the owners will be on companies to check

1770
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 10: the age of users.

1771
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 21: Well, what's to stop a fourteen year old saying I'm

1772
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 21: seventeen or twenty.

1773
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: Same sounds when you go on the boot sites? You

1774
01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: know are you eighteen?

1775
01:21:59,439 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 11: Yes?

1776
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: I am crazy? A does it help? Am I being unfair?

1777
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm being unfair. But when I see

1778
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: I look at the poor bloke who got found guilty

1779
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 2: for tasting the woman, he looks like a guy who's

1780
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: either you know, you see, so when you look at him,

1781
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 2: going yeah, I can see why that happened.

1782
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 21: Well, the very much divided opinion in New South Wales,

1783
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 21: it must be said, I mean he's a thirty four

1784
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:28,799
Speaker 21: year old police officer, Christian White. He was found guilty

1785
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 21: this week of manslaughter, which carries a twenty five year

1786
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 21: penalty in jail. And obviously Claire now and a ninety

1787
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 21: five year old great grandmother, She was on a walking

1788
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 21: frame in her nursing home armed with a knife. She'd

1789
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 21: been into the bedroom of at least one other resident

1790
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 21: of the nursing home with two knives, and they tried

1791
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 21: to talk Hero out and then he said, oh bugger

1792
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 21: it and zap I.

1793
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: Excuse my ignorance. Did they ever get in the trial

1794
01:22:55,520 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: to the bottom of it, because it's incomprehensible knife not

1795
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: that you can't see how old, how frail she is,

1796
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: and clearly she's not well and therefore the TAAs is

1797
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:08,879
Speaker 2: not required.

1798
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I get it, you get it.

1799
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 21: And there were two police officers there as well as

1800
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 21: two paramedics.

1801
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 10: I mean, you're telling me that four trained people can't

1802
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 10: just arm an old, ninety five year old lady. You

1803
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 10: didn't know where the heck she was.

1804
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it was amazing, just dreadful. Or have you

1805
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: done a Christmas shop? Is it Black Friday in Australia today?

1806
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 21: By the way, Oh god, I'm trying to avoid all

1807
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 21: that Black Friday nonsense. I'll go to the golf club, Mike.

1808
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 21: I might get a you know, a dozen golf balls

1809
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 21: for forty bucks and that.

1810
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: Will do me. So what it costs in Australia tour

1811
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: balls forty bucks?

1812
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know you can get those on special.

1813
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 21: I was at I was at a golf shop yesterday,

1814
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 21: just walking around, you know, a bit like women going

1815
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 21: to shoe shops.

1816
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 10: I shouldn't geralize here. I love going to I love

1817
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 10: going to the golf shops.

1818
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 2: It's a bit like the ladies go shopping. It's just

1819
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: the top of one. I even needed to buy twelve

1820
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: because I never lost the Murray. I just bought one.

1821
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 10: Ah, listen to you all right done?

1822
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: And the thing is, I've still got it.

1823
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 10: Very good.

1824
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 2: I keeping well. Big time catch up next week. Murray

1825
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 2: Olds is fourteen to nine.

1826
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1827
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:18,479
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1828
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: That'd be seventy five thousand more people need to lose

1829
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: their job in Australia. We had eleven so when the

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01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank made their announcement this week the unemployment, they're

1831
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: still forecasting to go to fire point two, which isn't

1832
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 2: five point five. So things aren't going to be as

1833
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 2: bad they think as we originally thought. So that's another

1834
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: eleven thousand people in New Zealand need to leave their

1835
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: jobs lose their job. Seventy five thousand is the number

1836
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: they announced yesterday in Australia. That's a lot of people.

1837
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 2: Mind you if you look on a per head of

1838
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: population basis, it equates to about the same thing, Mike.

1839
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: To celebrate Thanksgiving tonight, eight of us are going to

1840
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 2: split a bottle of twenty sixteen Grange. Isn't that wonderful?

1841
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty five dollars each. It's about one

1842
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a bottle for an hour of great wine

1843
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: conversation In entertainment, you could do worse. That's at ninety

1844
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 2: three mills ago, which if you're splinning it eight ways,

1845
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 2: ninety three mills is you'd want to take that slowly

1846
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 2: because I could. I could, I could kill ninety three

1847
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: mills and just oh that's nice. Where's that gone? It's

1848
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: got that about it, But you enjoy it. One of

1849
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: the great wines of the world. There's a very good auction.

1850
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 13: I don't think you're supposed drink it with a straw.

1851
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 2: It didn't really matter the auctions on for Are you

1852
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: interested in Elton John's car. It's a two thousand and

1853
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 2: four Bentley Continental. It's a for sale here. There's a

1854
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: company called Sunday Drive and you can read about it

1855
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 2: in the Driven section of the Herald this morning. So

1856
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 2: there's a company. There's a bunch of really interesting cars,

1857
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: and the auction's on at the moment. I'm just thinking

1858
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: about Christmas. They're all more than six hundred dollars, by

1859
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 2: the way, so you'll have to take your Black Friday

1860
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: budget and it stretch it a little bit. But there's

1861
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: two thousand and four Bentley Continental that Elton John there's

1862
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: paperwork that says he owned it. It's got seventy or

1863
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 2: eighty thousand k's on the clock, it's black. It's a

1864
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: good looking car, so that's for sale.

1865
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 13: You've got looking at because he's not allowed to drive

1866
01:25:58,600 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 13: any more.

1867
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: Can't see sea out of one eye precisely. There's a

1868
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,440
Speaker 2: twenty one Ford Mustang SM seventeen. The SM is Scott McLaughlin.

1869
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: There was only one hundred and thirty made, so you

1870
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: can buy that if you want. That was part of

1871
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: the McLaughlin family had it and Scott used it when

1872
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 2: he came back to the country. And it's only got

1873
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 2: about die I think from memory, two or three thousand

1874
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: k's on the clock, so that's quite something. And then

1875
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 2: my favorite is a Daimler SP two to fifty Dart.

1876
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: I bought a nineteen sixty nine Mark one Dameler many

1877
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: many years ago, when it couldn't afford one, and then

1878
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: once I got my Mark one Daimler that I couldn't afford,

1879
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: I then thought, jeez, I'd love him SP two fifty

1880
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: Dart And they're very very rare cars and they're a

1881
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: super cool looking car. And that's for sale as well.

1882
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: That's up for action as well. At the moment, it's

1883
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: all locally. It's often these cars come up internationally. You

1884
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 2: don't see them here, but they're here available now in

1885
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 2: the auctions live at the moment, apparently eight minutes away

1886
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 2: from nine.

1887
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: Mike Costing Breakfast with a feeder, Retirement, Communities News, TOGSADVS.

1888
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: Mike agreed the Daimler Dart is still cool looking after

1889
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: fifty years, couldn't it. It's probably one of the best

1890
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 2: looking cars ever produced. It's a little convertible. What was

1891
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: the Netflix program read the London Christmas It wasn't Netflix.

1892
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 2: It was TV and Z Plus and it was James.

1893
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it's called, you know Christmas St

1894
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: James or James at Christmas or you know St James

1895
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: something or rather or TV and Z Plus. It's under

1896
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: the segment they run called programs you might want to watch.

1897
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 13: That should offer a service where it's like as recommended,

1898
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 13: as curated, very very favorous. It's curated by a husky.

1899
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: The Hosking Curation. Hey, come on, now there is and

1900
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: that they're looking for ideas. The Hosking Curation five minutes

1901
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: away from nine.

1902
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: Trending Now chemist wareuse the home of big brand fight.

1903
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: What would they do when I outrated the entire station

1904
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: with my ideas?

1905
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 18: Then?

1906
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: What would they do?

1907
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 10: So?

1908
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: Scotland is introducing this winter energy payment anywhere between two

1909
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 2: and six hundred bucks, depending on how old you are

1910
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: and what sort of benefits you got. So anyway, Sir Sky,

1911
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: I thought this is good. So they went and talked

1912
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: to a couple of Scots about it.

1913
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 10: Sure, I don't get in. I've got all my pensions.

1914
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 6: Well, as a rich pensioner, you'll still get this payment

1915
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 6: of time and I'll come back.

1916
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 10: That's fine.

1917
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 14: But as a rich pension or do you think you

1918
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 14: should get it?

1919
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 13: Yes, because of what hard on my life.

1920
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 10: Someone entitled it that as long as they don't.

1921
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 7: Take area bush brush, you know, because I don't need

1922
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 7: my private jet anymore, I think they should bring it back.

1923
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 6: For the older people, I because they'll need jet Rod,

1924
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 6: the volves, get up, get hi, you know that?

1925
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 10: Also bringing it back. I'd be very pleased about that

1926
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 10: because they obviously am I'm going to be able to

1927
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 10: accept that and do something with it.

1928
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 15: But it seems like it was all done particle, you know, standard.

1929
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 15: But it's good that they brought it back. I think

1930
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 15: people will really appreciate it.

1931
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Our son lives at the moment and he's.

1932
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 13: Taking taking the woman when she said for the.

1933
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 14: Older people, I because they'll need yet Rot, the volves,

1934
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 14: get up, get hi.

1935
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 18: You know that?

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Speaker 13: You know what I mean, Like I didn't quite come back.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Let's enjoy the f one over the weekend, by

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Speaker 2: the way, that's back for the weekend, and the some

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Speaker 2: football on today because it's Thanksgiving and life is good

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Speaker 2: and it's it's all great. So anyway, as we say

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Speaker 2: happy days.

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