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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from US talks edb.

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Speaker 2: Jump now into the ring the squared circle with a pugilist.

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Speaker 2: His name is David Nica and he joins us and

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Speaker 2: now David hanging there for a bit because we were

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Speaker 2: talking to you shortly about you being back on home

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Speaker 2: soil looking to continue your march towards the title taker. Listen,

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Speaker 2: you know you know you pay for the peddle there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything's affected him and there it is. There was

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Speaker 3: the decisive left to the body and sites goes down

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Speaker 3: and they've waved it off. Mercy, mercy, me good car by.

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Speaker 3: The referee was only gonna get really ugly from there,

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Speaker 3: but slu to the nice guy David Nica, who's now

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Speaker 3: nine to zero and gets knockout number eight.

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Speaker 2: He clubbed them into submission. Great to see. Hey, David,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show lot water. We're a weekend only

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Speaker 2: from your first fight on home soil. Since you're what

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Speaker 2: you pray your pro debut, wasn't it. Yeah, mate, it's

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Speaker 2: been a long time between punches.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's been a long time coming, and I'm

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Speaker 4: really excited to fight in front of my home crowd. Again.

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Speaker 4: It's been yeah, just over three and a half years.

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Speaker 4: So the first one was a bit of a flop.

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Speaker 4: I think the the entire fight lasted twenty three seconds,

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Speaker 4: including the including the count. So yeah, excited to excited

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Speaker 2: It wasn't already a flop. I mean, you punched me,

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Speaker 2: fell over or you're saying he flopped? What was it like,

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Speaker 2: Jesse Jesse My, I think it was.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what I think. That's what you call it.

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Speaker 4: He really did flop, didn't he. Maybe that's why they

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Speaker 4: called it a flop.

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Speaker 2: Maybe. But you went on there, great guns, and you've

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Speaker 2: gone along. I think that you're you've obviously unbeaten so

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Speaker 2: far in your pro career through nine fights, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of these scraps have not gone the distance. I

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Speaker 2: think only one of them early on in your career.

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Speaker 2: You actually had to go the whole lot. You got points.

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Speaker 2: Decision is that problematic for you? Like how long you

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Speaker 2: can last? And do you trust your whiskers for a

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Speaker 2: long time in the room?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. I trained for ten rounds. You know,

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Speaker 4: this is this fire schedules for ten and I've trained

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Speaker 4: to ten. It's just a matter of whether or not

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Speaker 4: my opponents can can stand up to it. And I

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Speaker 4: know I've got the gas tank to break guys down,

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Speaker 4: and so I'd like to start showing that aspect of

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Speaker 4: my of my game a little bit more, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I need quality opposition to actually bring that, to

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Speaker 4: bring that to light.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the opposition. You had an opponent, but

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Speaker 2: he got well, he tried to reduce himself up. Idiot,

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Speaker 2: but you go, he's gomburger. So you got a new

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Speaker 2: bloke at late. Notice his name is Tommy Caapenci. You've

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Speaker 2: got to be impressed by David Higgins and your management

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Speaker 2: crew that they've managed to sort a replacement in the place.

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Speaker 2: Was it twenty four to forty eight hours after old

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Speaker 2: mate managed to produce himself out out of contention?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, it was a bit disappointing. Like they

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Speaker 4: had five or six weeks to get their B sample tested,

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Speaker 4: but they obviously weren't happy with the chances of them

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Speaker 4: clearing their name with the B sample, so they waited

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Speaker 4: four or five weeks to get an independent test done,

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Speaker 4: which would have given them plenty of times to clear

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Speaker 4: Blake system. So yeah, we've got another opponent. And the

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Speaker 4: good thing about having to, you know, I guess rummage

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Speaker 4: around for different opponents is that we've actually uncovered quite

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Speaker 4: a few new names that might be good opposition down

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Speaker 4: the line. So yeah, Tommy Carpentcy is the next in line.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we've got an exciting new arrangement with the Zone,

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Speaker 4: so that's the exclusive platform to watch the flight. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: Actually this is the first desone fight in New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: so we're trying to push for people to download that app.

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Speaker 4: It is like fully digital, It's so easy now. But

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Speaker 4: you know, we've got we've got a multi fight deal

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Speaker 4: with them. So ideally I roll through Tommy CARPENTI. I

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Speaker 4: know he's tough, but we roll through him and go

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Speaker 4: again before the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not getting paid or sponsored by Doze. But

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Speaker 2: I've been on that and I've used that at and

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Speaker 2: you're right dead simple, I'm all over it like a rast.

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Speaker 2: So get amongst if you want to watch Niki, of course,

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Speaker 2: you get along on the still tickets available for the fight,

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Speaker 2: and you pretty much sold out what he vite up

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Speaker 2: the Vin scenes next Saturday night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're pretty much sold out so out

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Speaker 4: of I think there were ninety tables, there's there's eighty

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Speaker 4: awesome crowd. But obviously for everybody to tune in online

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Speaker 4: is the way to do it. And ideally, ideally we

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Speaker 4: get a big stadium next. I reckon if we do

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Speaker 4: this again, we get you know, maybe fill out Spark Arena,

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Speaker 4: because I think I think all going well and if

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Speaker 4: we if we put on a good show with which

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Speaker 4: we undoubtedly will do with four heavyweight belts on the

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Speaker 4: trot on the night, yeah, I think we'll be able

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Speaker 4: the year.

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Speaker 2: But you're not getting too fair hit to yourself, mate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know they had a world heavyweight fight

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Speaker 2: at Spark Arena with Joe Parker. You know at that stage,

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Speaker 2: you know your mate settled down.

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Speaker 4: Let's see. Well, I'll tell you what. Duco have been

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Speaker 4: putting this this fight together for the last eighteen months

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Speaker 4: and they do nothing by half measures. So I think

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Speaker 4: this is going to be an amazing show. I know

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Speaker 4: how much hard work has gone into it and so yeah,

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Speaker 4: getting this last minute opponent was was crucial, you know,

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Speaker 4: And luckily enough, we've actually found someone that has has pedigree,

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Speaker 4: and you know, it's been this fight's been sanctioned by

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Speaker 4: two sanctioning bodies, which is which is actually a really

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Speaker 4: big deal. And obviously this guy's tough enough. He's He's

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Speaker 4: fought fought against three formal world champions and actually been

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Speaker 4: not taking him lightly. I'm not looking too far ahead.

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Speaker 4: I just understand that my narrative is only just beginning,

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Speaker 4: you know, and I've put so much hard work into

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Speaker 4: I just have full confidence in my team around me,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I haven't cut any corners along the way,

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Speaker 4: and I'm exactly where I need to be, back in

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Speaker 4: the great country of Alta at all.

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Speaker 2: David Nika joining them, of course, he's based over in Australia,

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Speaker 2: but coming home to fight. Tell us about your opposition

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Speaker 2: as far as what he brings to the ring, because

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Speaker 2: the guy who dropped out Caparello was a left hooker.

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Speaker 2: He was the other side because you've got the you know,

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Speaker 2: to help with your preparation. Is he is he similar

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Speaker 4: Boxes, though, to be honest, I think he's probably a

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Speaker 4: more has a more fan friendly style. I was a

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Speaker 4: little bit concerned that we were going to fight Blake

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Speaker 4: Caparello and he was he was going to do the

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Speaker 4: and and just negative. So I know Tommy Cupence will

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Speaker 4: come out hard. I don't know if he's trained for

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Speaker 4: a ten for a ten round fight. I don't know

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Speaker 4: but I know that he can bang. He's got nineteen

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Speaker 4: KOs out of the thirty one wins, and you know

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Speaker 4: he's been around for a long time and fought the

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Speaker 4: best of the best. So yeah, this is just another

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Speaker 4: another opportunity to prove my metal and obviously go there

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Speaker 4: over to Saudi to fight over there. That's a huge

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've got all the confidence in the

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Speaker 4: world from from my country and uh, we've we've We've

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Speaker 4: really got a great thing going. I just need to

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Speaker 4: just need to get off the line quick, you know.

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Speaker 2: David Nika joining the show. Yeah, getting good at this game,

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Speaker 2: and he's sliding your sponsors in left right and send

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Speaker 2: to mate. Youre going to go far. What's on the line?

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Speaker 2: Are there any belts on the line or is it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually just learned just in the last twenty

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Speaker 4: four hours with this butt has been sanctioned, so it'll

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Speaker 4: be for two belts. Two belts. So I've got my

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Speaker 4: first belt with the IBF and now now we're going

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Speaker 4: Intercontinental Champion, I believe, and that's the that's the next

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Speaker 4: up the rankings and eventually put myself on that mandated

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Speaker 2: How long do you think before you get a crack

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Speaker 2: at a bona fide title? What are you looking at

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Speaker 2: six minds as two years? You've got a master plan there, David.

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Speaker 4: The plans in boxing are always changing, so I'd say realistically,

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Speaker 4: in the next two years, I'll be I'll be fighting

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. It's a matter of time, you know.

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Speaker 4: And if I just stick to the process and you know,

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Speaker 4: keep believing in myself, I believe I can go all

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Speaker 4: the way and beyond. So you know that the heavyweight

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Speaker 4: at about ninety eight kilos and still pretty lean, so

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Speaker 4: that's that's that's well above the cruiserweight limit and venturing

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Speaker 4: that's where all the money is these days. So obviously

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Speaker 4: getting big fights in the head division would be would

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Speaker 4: be amazing. And you know, I've worked with a lot

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Speaker 4: I think I think I've got what it takes and

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Speaker 4: I think I've learned so much over the last two

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Speaker 4: years training under the tutelage of Noel Thornberry. So I've

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Speaker 4: got all the confidence that i can go above and

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Speaker 4: beyond my own expectations. But it's all about just taking

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Speaker 4: you know, one fight at a time, one step at

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Speaker 4: a time. And yeah, I really feel like I'm inevitable.

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Speaker 2: And I know your lean and nice that that body

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Speaker 2: of mine that I lent you a decade ago, you're

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Speaker 2: looking after it. Can I have it back after you

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Speaker 2: get to the top of the world.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you know. You keep eating your your tuna

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Speaker 4: and rice.

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Speaker 2: Hey, one last thing, David, I've been questioned on this

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Speaker 2: a number of times, and I keep forgetting to ask you.

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Speaker 2: Where does your surname Nika come from? In y i Ka?

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Speaker 2: Is there a story behind that? What's the nationality? Where

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Speaker 2: does it come from?

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Speaker 4: Yah? Yeah, so that's it's actually Swahili name. It was

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Speaker 4: my granddad's nickname before he moved over to New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: so he I don't believe he had a birth certificate,

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Speaker 4: And so that's where he got his likeness to the

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Speaker 4: And so we're really kind of a kind of the

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Speaker 2: That's it. Buzz you get amongst and you stick that

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Speaker 2: name Nieka up on lights. Looking forward to next that

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Speaker 2: always great to you, and thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Pret well and go hard. We're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: Cheers, Darcy, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you as well. Always good to catch up

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Speaker 2: with David Nika interesting history behind his name. You go

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