1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Politics was centric credit check your customers and get payment certainty. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Just go on quarter to five news Talk ZEBB. A 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: senior political correspondent, Barry Soper is in Wellington with us today. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Hey Barry, good afternoon, Right Ken, we can touch on 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: the inconsistencies. Can we over the conscience vote on Easter 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: trading in Sunday advertising. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: Yes, it's fascinating, isn't it. That You've got to remember 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: they'll keep holy the Sabbath because the first reading of 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: the advertising at the weekends bill that was successful ninety 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: four to twenty nine. But it seems the cruciffixion and 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: the rise of Jesus. A couple of days later at 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: Easter trading, we people have broken the law essentially to trade. 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: Easter trading has been defeated again seventy four votes to 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: forty nine. So the retailers won't be able to trade 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: at Easter weekend. But it's incredible, isn't it. At a 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: time Ryan, when you think if ever of the retailers 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: were facing it tough at the moment, that the MPs 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: would have thought, well, let's give them a break. 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Which MPs are we talking about? I mean, who was 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: largely in four and four and again. 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Well, if you look at the Easter trading seventy four, 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: we're against in forty nine four, I would imagine the 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: whole of the National Party voted for. But you know 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: they don't do the breakdowns of who voted what, and 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: so you know, it's funny. It's a conscience vote. 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird in mansistent. Yeah, it is Lake Alice, 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: a torture survivor's art to get compensation. 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know a dreadful period in our history 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: that was they can either choose an expedited payment, a 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: quick payment for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, or 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: they can lodge acclaim and that'll be viewed by an 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: independent arbiter and they'll make a determination on their mouths. Now, 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: these were many of them with kids and they were 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: getting shock treatment, which was absolutely shocking. They in fact 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: have got until April next year. Those are the ones 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: that want the expedited payment, or they can delay it 37 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: until September next year if they want to negotiate a payment. Well, 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: payments will be all done by the end of next year. Now. 39 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: The Minister Erica Stanford said all the organs of State 40 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: were notified about the torture of children, but it seems 41 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: no one was listening. 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: Dozens more complaints and concerns were made to every government 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: department that had some connection or responsibility Forlake Alice. Complaints 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: were made to police officers, social workers, kads of Departments 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: of Social Welfare, Education and Health, the Medical Council, Yombusman 46 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: District inspectors, doctors and nurses, and none was sufficiently acted on. 47 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: The Crown utterly failed survivors and we owed the majority 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: of care and protection. 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: You'd have to say that was absolutely the case. 50 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, no arguing with that. The final clash of 51 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: the leaders in the House for the year. 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Prime Minister and the leader of the Opposition. 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: Given the clash, they will no doubt certainly be pleased 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: see the last of each other. As Parliament draws to 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: a close for the year, they're having the adjournment debate. 56 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: At the moment Chris Luckson has just been on his 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: feet and Chris Hopkins followed him. But earlier on during 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: question time. Here they are with Chris Luckson defending the 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: record of his Finance Minister, Nichola Willis. 60 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Nichola Willis is going to go down as the best 61 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: finance minister in as country they ever seen, because by god, 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: what a mess she has picked up, and she is 63 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: cleaning house and she's getting the job done, and she 64 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: has delivered a value for money, reliable, sensible faery solution 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: of rail, combatible fairies, and our great Minister of Rail's 66 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: got a limited window to try and improve upon it. 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: Otherwise we're going to get new fairies twenty twenty nine. 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: Don't you worry about it? 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 5: So why does he think he's the most unpopular prime 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 5: minister in New Zealand's history? And what does he think 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: Nichola Willis is more likely to replace next year the 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 5: inter Island Fairies for him, his prime Minister. 73 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a bit wrench, isn't it. 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: Isn't that a bit ratch? 75 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: How are the conversations with David Parker and Kerr McNulty 76 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: working out sun They're getting on very well. 77 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: Haven't they. 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Goodness? Okay, all right? And just finally Shane Jones while 79 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: he's having a bit of fun too, well, look he. 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: Was at his lyrical best, I've got to say, as 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: he was lauding the success of his regional summits. He's 82 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 3: been holding up and down the country in his mind, 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: Jones told Parliament he hasn't a sceric of doubt about 84 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: how well they were received. 85 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 6: Unheralded popularity. The summits have been an opportunity to meet 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: and greet people. Occasionally there have been one of three 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 6: protesters as I've sought to engage regard variety Kiwis. But 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 6: the days of those mung being meddlers are over. Without 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 6: a doubt. Taranaki will enjoy a boost with offshore mining opportunities. Sadly, no, 90 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 6: that's enough from the Kumua munches, not going to have 91 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 6: any and International Gas and Oil Explorer announced at six 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 6: point thirty this morning they're no longer withdrawing from New 93 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 6: Zealand and on your behalf New Zealand. I claim a 94 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 6: little credit for that. 95 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: I've got to say. It's a great way to go out, 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: isn't it, Because you know, he is probably i think 97 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: one of the most humorous and able speakers in the 98 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: place at the moment. Yeah. 99 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: That, well, they're a bit short on those, aren't they They. 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: Not in the past week. We had great orators in 101 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: the old days and they're not quite the same today. 102 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: So he's the pick of the bunch at the moment, 103 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: I think. 104 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: Long may he rain, Uncle Shane, thank you so much. 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Barry Soper out of Parliament, nine away from five News. 106 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 5: For more from hitherto Plasy, Allen Drive, listen live to 107 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: News Talks at B from four pm weekdays, or follow 108 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 5: the podcast on iHeartRadio