1 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B. 2 00:00:12,413 --> 00:00:16,213 Speaker 1: Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio, 3 00:00:17,653 --> 00:00:21,413 Speaker 1: your new home for insightful and enter teening talk. It's 4 00:00:21,413 --> 00:00:24,572 Speaker 1: Mattie and Tyler Adams afternoons on. 5 00:00:24,653 --> 00:00:25,692 Speaker 2: News Talk Sedby. 6 00:00:26,773 --> 00:00:29,293 Speaker 3: A very good afternoon to you. Great to have your 7 00:00:29,293 --> 00:00:32,213 Speaker 3: company Matt and Tyler with you until four pm. 8 00:00:32,573 --> 00:00:35,493 Speaker 2: Week two of the Matt and Afternoons on zeb B. 9 00:00:36,493 --> 00:00:38,733 Speaker 2: We made it through. We haven't been cut yet. 10 00:00:38,453 --> 00:00:40,492 Speaker 3: Not yet, teller, No, No, it is only week two though, 11 00:00:40,533 --> 00:00:41,013 Speaker 3: so let's see. 12 00:00:41,092 --> 00:00:43,732 Speaker 2: It's been some rollings from the Breakfast show. But I 13 00:00:43,772 --> 00:00:45,573 Speaker 2: think we're holding onto our job so far. 14 00:00:45,693 --> 00:00:47,653 Speaker 3: We know where the good Dyson is now, so that's good. 15 00:00:47,693 --> 00:00:48,852 Speaker 2: We're doing better than I thought we were. 16 00:00:48,933 --> 00:00:49,092 Speaker 4: Yeah. 17 00:00:49,092 --> 00:00:50,573 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'd be gone day two. 18 00:00:50,653 --> 00:00:50,812 Speaker 3: Now. 19 00:00:50,853 --> 00:00:53,933 Speaker 2: You had a nuanced weekend, Matt. Yeah, I'd say I 20 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:55,693 Speaker 2: had a win and a loss than a win. There's 21 00:00:55,693 --> 00:00:57,093 Speaker 2: a thing in my life where I can turn a 22 00:00:57,133 --> 00:00:59,893 Speaker 2: win into a loss. And my beloved Dodgers, I'm a 23 00:00:59,973 --> 00:01:03,892 Speaker 2: huge baseball fan, and they beat the Dirty Padres and 24 00:01:03,933 --> 00:01:06,092 Speaker 2: me and my friend Cass we were watching the game 25 00:01:06,213 --> 00:01:09,212 Speaker 2: and then then we had to celebrate, and over celebrated 26 00:01:09,253 --> 00:01:11,572 Speaker 2: and then woke up not filling one hundred percent as 27 00:01:11,613 --> 00:01:14,893 Speaker 2: you do on the Sunday morning. But then then I 28 00:01:14,932 --> 00:01:17,253 Speaker 2: created a win with an I fill it that I 29 00:01:17,253 --> 00:01:21,053 Speaker 2: cooked on the barbecue absolutely perfectly. 30 00:01:20,613 --> 00:01:23,212 Speaker 3: Well sort of barbecue have you got we're talking webber. 31 00:01:23,212 --> 00:01:24,172 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking webber. 32 00:01:24,333 --> 00:01:28,292 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, charcoal, no mate, ye. 33 00:01:29,013 --> 00:01:31,733 Speaker 2: Gas gas powered. But you know, I, you know, I 34 00:01:31,773 --> 00:01:34,293 Speaker 2: was nervous because you got to get it right. It 35 00:01:34,292 --> 00:01:36,973 Speaker 2: was eighty eight bucks. It was an eighty eight dollars 36 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:39,292 Speaker 2: hunk of meat, So you got to get it right. 37 00:01:39,572 --> 00:01:42,413 Speaker 2: And I've got it wrong before. And that's a disaster 38 00:01:42,493 --> 00:01:46,493 Speaker 2: when you're seeing that and that a huge investment like 39 00:01:46,533 --> 00:01:50,733 Speaker 2: that become well done. It was near the middle, to 40 00:01:50,773 --> 00:01:54,413 Speaker 2: be honest, some of the sort of wimpim members of 41 00:01:54,453 --> 00:01:57,133 Speaker 2: my family were pulling out and asking for bits. At 42 00:01:57,133 --> 00:01:59,533 Speaker 2: the end, it might have got a little bit tending 43 00:01:59,573 --> 00:02:01,172 Speaker 2: towards rare in the middle. 44 00:02:01,373 --> 00:02:04,253 Speaker 3: If more than seventy percent is spot on, then you've 45 00:02:04,293 --> 00:02:06,173 Speaker 3: got to go a hole into that other thirty percent 46 00:02:06,213 --> 00:02:09,173 Speaker 3: that maybe a little bit more bloody. To know what 47 00:02:09,253 --> 00:02:11,013 Speaker 3: you're a quiet you know what you're used to. 48 00:02:11,053 --> 00:02:15,333 Speaker 2: But your full disclosure for the kids sandwiches, I did 49 00:02:15,333 --> 00:02:18,853 Speaker 2: put it back on the barbecue again, because well they 50 00:02:18,853 --> 00:02:20,533 Speaker 2: weren't going to put it in the sandwiches. As as 51 00:02:20,573 --> 00:02:22,053 Speaker 2: bloody as it was in the middle. 52 00:02:21,893 --> 00:02:23,813 Speaker 3: That hurts. Did you do that in secret though? Just 53 00:02:23,853 --> 00:02:26,012 Speaker 3: when never undergone to Beard? You went back out and 54 00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:27,253 Speaker 3: it sparked up the barbecue. 55 00:02:27,373 --> 00:02:30,093 Speaker 2: I did. Actually I snuck out and then just cooked 56 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:32,173 Speaker 2: it up again and so I could claim the victory. 57 00:02:32,293 --> 00:02:34,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Right on to the show today after 58 00:02:34,933 --> 00:02:35,613 Speaker 3: three o'clock. 59 00:02:36,613 --> 00:02:40,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, the telltale signs that you're low rent according to 60 00:02:41,933 --> 00:02:45,133 Speaker 2: an etiquette expert. I mean, how much respect have you 61 00:02:45,173 --> 00:02:48,093 Speaker 2: got for an etiquette expert. But one of the these 62 00:02:48,093 --> 00:02:49,933 Speaker 2: are some of the things that they say are low rent. 63 00:02:50,013 --> 00:02:53,533 Speaker 2: So'll be interested to know if you're low rent. Mounted 64 00:02:53,573 --> 00:02:55,893 Speaker 2: TVs are apparently now a low rent. 65 00:02:55,773 --> 00:02:58,972 Speaker 3: And you're you're mess with on mounted TV TV. 66 00:02:59,173 --> 00:03:01,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated TV cabinet, but. 67 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:04,653 Speaker 3: You've got one. You're you've gone the next step that 68 00:03:04,693 --> 00:03:06,373 Speaker 3: it's almost flush with the wall. 69 00:03:06,413 --> 00:03:09,093 Speaker 2: Right, I've got a plumbed sam Sung frame. 70 00:03:09,213 --> 00:03:11,733 Speaker 3: Well, you got one of those TVs, joy. 71 00:03:11,573 --> 00:03:13,933 Speaker 2: And then it's a beautiful piece of artwork in the 72 00:03:14,213 --> 00:03:16,333 Speaker 2: I actually had a free one of my son's friends 73 00:03:16,333 --> 00:03:19,293 Speaker 2: around was, and I had a mon a up on 74 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:20,813 Speaker 2: the frame because you can pick the art that's in 75 00:03:20,853 --> 00:03:24,773 Speaker 2: there that's low rent. And one of my son's friends said, oh, 76 00:03:24,773 --> 00:03:26,653 Speaker 2: this is brilliant because if anyone broke into the house, 77 00:03:26,653 --> 00:03:28,373 Speaker 2: they just think it was a horrible painting and then 78 00:03:28,413 --> 00:03:29,373 Speaker 2: they wouldn't want to steal it. 79 00:03:30,133 --> 00:03:32,493 Speaker 3: Well, get this, Anything bigger than a forty six inch 80 00:03:32,733 --> 00:03:34,133 Speaker 3: television is suspect. 81 00:03:34,373 --> 00:03:37,453 Speaker 2: Anything less than a forty six inch challenging television is 82 00:03:37,493 --> 00:03:38,213 Speaker 2: cowardly if you. 83 00:03:38,613 --> 00:03:40,173 Speaker 3: I didn't even know you could buy less than forty 84 00:03:40,173 --> 00:03:41,493 Speaker 3: six inch these days, right, So. 85 00:03:41,693 --> 00:03:44,013 Speaker 2: Using a knife like a pen and drinking G and 86 00:03:44,093 --> 00:03:46,053 Speaker 2: T's and now low ents so are you low rent? 87 00:03:46,133 --> 00:03:46,333 Speaker 4: Yeah? 88 00:03:46,373 --> 00:03:47,493 Speaker 3: And Sparpool's as well? 89 00:03:47,533 --> 00:03:49,093 Speaker 2: And do you care that hurts? 90 00:03:49,453 --> 00:03:49,733 Speaker 4: Right? 91 00:03:49,893 --> 00:03:52,452 Speaker 3: That's the chat after three o'clock. After two o'clock, things 92 00:03:52,493 --> 00:03:54,493 Speaker 3: are kicking off and live in when it comes to 93 00:03:54,533 --> 00:03:57,613 Speaker 3: booms and New Zealanders love boom chat. I mean they 94 00:03:57,613 --> 00:03:59,693 Speaker 3: get fired up about boom chat. But why it's kicking 95 00:03:59,733 --> 00:04:03,373 Speaker 3: off and live in is the hotter. Fenawa Rather District 96 00:04:03,453 --> 00:04:06,853 Speaker 3: Council has stopped urban boom mowing in July is a 97 00:04:06,853 --> 00:04:09,093 Speaker 3: way to save costs. They expect to save over two 98 00:04:09,173 --> 00:04:13,373 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars. But many locals are irate and say 99 00:04:13,373 --> 00:04:14,733 Speaker 3: they're not going to over their boom. So they're not 100 00:04:14,733 --> 00:04:15,213 Speaker 3: going to do it. 101 00:04:15,333 --> 00:04:17,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's cutting costs, but I'm sure it's not 102 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:20,373 Speaker 2: lowering rates. You're not getting a discount, and you're having 103 00:04:20,373 --> 00:04:24,213 Speaker 2: to mow your own berm. Been mowing berms and auckland 104 00:04:24,213 --> 00:04:26,933 Speaker 2: for a very long time, you have I have been, Yes, 105 00:04:27,013 --> 00:04:31,733 Speaker 2: well not me personally, but if you're mowing, if you 106 00:04:31,813 --> 00:04:34,893 Speaker 2: are mowing your own berm, then you own that berm 107 00:04:35,573 --> 00:04:36,653 Speaker 2: in my bin. 108 00:04:36,693 --> 00:04:37,693 Speaker 3: It now becomes your land. 109 00:04:37,773 --> 00:04:39,093 Speaker 2: It comes your land. You can get what you want 110 00:04:39,133 --> 00:04:39,333 Speaker 2: with it. 111 00:04:39,373 --> 00:04:40,533 Speaker 3: And what have you done with your boom? 112 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:42,893 Speaker 2: I've plunted an illegal tree on my boom. 113 00:04:42,933 --> 00:04:45,293 Speaker 3: How big is that tree now? It's it's huge, it 114 00:04:45,333 --> 00:04:47,333 Speaker 3: is massive. So they can't cut that down now. No, 115 00:04:47,373 --> 00:04:47,933 Speaker 3: I've got them. 116 00:04:48,133 --> 00:04:51,373 Speaker 2: But I wasn't reckless. I checked. I checked where all 117 00:04:51,413 --> 00:04:53,533 Speaker 2: the all the piping and everything went, and I checked 118 00:04:53,573 --> 00:04:55,933 Speaker 2: the view when you come out. And I did get 119 00:04:56,133 --> 00:04:57,693 Speaker 2: a letter from the counter saying they're going to cut 120 00:04:57,733 --> 00:05:00,533 Speaker 2: it down, and then and then they haven't. 121 00:05:00,733 --> 00:05:01,773 Speaker 3: So you ran it through legal. 122 00:05:01,893 --> 00:05:03,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're saying if you're gonna if you're gonna look 123 00:05:03,973 --> 00:05:06,173 Speaker 2: after my berm, then then you decide what's on it. 124 00:05:06,773 --> 00:05:08,653 Speaker 3: That's going to be a good chat after talk. But 125 00:05:08,773 --> 00:05:11,733 Speaker 3: right now, a new Coying or Order complex has opened 126 00:05:11,773 --> 00:05:14,133 Speaker 3: in Auckland at a cost of one point two million 127 00:05:14,173 --> 00:05:17,973 Speaker 3: per apartment. Is one of New Zealand's leading developers calls 128 00:05:18,053 --> 00:05:20,733 Speaker 3: the state run agencies record of running up billions in 129 00:05:20,813 --> 00:05:24,693 Speaker 3: debt a national scandal and embarrassment. So the government says 130 00:05:24,693 --> 00:05:27,453 Speaker 3: it now expects the agency to achieve what they are 131 00:05:27,453 --> 00:05:30,533 Speaker 3: calling better value for money on future builds, while the 132 00:05:30,573 --> 00:05:34,453 Speaker 3: opposition accuses the government of ignoring its success in building 133 00:05:34,493 --> 00:05:37,933 Speaker 3: fourteen thousand homes in six years. The agency yesterday allowed 134 00:05:37,933 --> 00:05:41,133 Speaker 3: the public to view the newly built meadow Bank complex, 135 00:05:41,173 --> 00:05:45,173 Speaker 3: saying it's spent eleven million dollars on the three three 136 00:05:45,213 --> 00:05:48,853 Speaker 3: bedroom and six two bedroom apartments. That equates to one 137 00:05:48,853 --> 00:05:53,333 Speaker 3: point two million per apartments big money and rises to 138 00:05:53,373 --> 00:05:57,693 Speaker 3: one point seven million if the about four million value 139 00:05:57,773 --> 00:06:00,533 Speaker 3: of the land already owned by Coying of Order is 140 00:06:00,653 --> 00:06:03,253 Speaker 3: added to Mark Todd talked about this developer. He's the 141 00:06:03,293 --> 00:06:07,453 Speaker 3: co founder and developer of developer Ockham Residential. He believed 142 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:11,653 Speaker 3: the project's cos per Apartment highlighted the agencies in competence 143 00:06:11,813 --> 00:06:15,093 Speaker 3: and lack of expertise, and called reports that raked up 144 00:06:15,093 --> 00:06:18,773 Speaker 3: twelve billion in debt and five years a national scandal. 145 00:06:19,013 --> 00:06:20,973 Speaker 2: He should stick to his lane with the horse riding 146 00:06:21,013 --> 00:06:22,813 Speaker 2: and the charisma. 147 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:23,333 Speaker 5: Well. 148 00:06:23,373 --> 00:06:27,373 Speaker 3: He went on to say that Kying or Order could 149 00:06:28,013 --> 00:06:31,333 Speaker 3: likely come under more scrutiny for building poor quality homes, 150 00:06:31,333 --> 00:06:35,013 Speaker 3: and so had at sometimes often heard on the side 151 00:06:35,013 --> 00:06:38,093 Speaker 3: of higher quality builds, paying for more reputable builders and 152 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:41,773 Speaker 3: guarantees of quality. But when it comes to social housing 153 00:06:41,813 --> 00:06:44,653 Speaker 3: and how it's built, what's your take on this? Do 154 00:06:44,733 --> 00:06:48,093 Speaker 3: we need to just go hell for leather and prefab 155 00:06:48,773 --> 00:06:51,493 Speaker 3: social housing and get it up as fast as possible, 156 00:06:51,493 --> 00:06:53,693 Speaker 3: as cheap as possible, or do we need to build 157 00:06:53,933 --> 00:06:56,293 Speaker 3: maybe not quite to the level that they've done here, 158 00:06:56,773 --> 00:06:59,693 Speaker 3: but good quality social housing that's going to last the distance. 159 00:06:59,813 --> 00:07:02,093 Speaker 2: Well, they need to be good. I'd say, you want 160 00:07:02,093 --> 00:07:04,413 Speaker 2: to be building good quality, but they can't be costing 161 00:07:04,413 --> 00:07:07,493 Speaker 2: one point two million. But I think as a nation 162 00:07:07,573 --> 00:07:10,333 Speaker 2: we're pretty proud of the quality of those classic three 163 00:07:10,373 --> 00:07:14,133 Speaker 2: bedroom brack ort that you know, the weatherboard tile roof numbers, 164 00:07:14,213 --> 00:07:18,613 Speaker 2: beautiful buildings with the great gum gum boot Alcove. I 165 00:07:18,653 --> 00:07:20,933 Speaker 2: was looking at the first year over government built houses. 166 00:07:21,333 --> 00:07:23,133 Speaker 2: There's one that I was looking at from nineteen oh 167 00:07:23,173 --> 00:07:26,333 Speaker 2: five and Potoni that looks like a newly renovated three 168 00:07:26,333 --> 00:07:28,013 Speaker 2: point five million dollar Ponzimby house. 169 00:07:28,093 --> 00:07:29,133 Speaker 3: That is a beautiful home. 170 00:07:29,293 --> 00:07:31,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, granted, so I think we're proud of those. 171 00:07:31,533 --> 00:07:33,013 Speaker 3: Do you know how much that cost to build at 172 00:07:33,053 --> 00:07:35,373 Speaker 3: the time, I don't know. In nineteen oh five it 173 00:07:35,453 --> 00:07:37,253 Speaker 3: was the first one. They went all out on the 174 00:07:37,253 --> 00:07:38,893 Speaker 3: first one because this is the start of this. 175 00:07:38,893 --> 00:07:41,293 Speaker 2: Beautiful new social and ninety dollars. 176 00:07:42,333 --> 00:07:44,453 Speaker 3: But that's the question we've got for you over the 177 00:07:44,493 --> 00:07:46,853 Speaker 3: next sort of fifteen minutes or so. What do we 178 00:07:46,893 --> 00:07:49,533 Speaker 3: actually want out of our social housing? Do we want 179 00:07:49,573 --> 00:07:53,933 Speaker 3: fit for purpose, good apartments and homes or do we 180 00:07:54,013 --> 00:07:56,773 Speaker 3: just want to have pre fab as fast as you can, 181 00:07:56,973 --> 00:07:58,533 Speaker 3: as cheap as you can get them up. 182 00:07:58,493 --> 00:08:00,053 Speaker 2: House as many people as we want, or do you 183 00:08:00,093 --> 00:08:02,533 Speaker 2: want none at all? There might be someone out there 184 00:08:02,573 --> 00:08:05,293 Speaker 2: with the extreme view that we want no social housing 185 00:08:05,293 --> 00:08:05,613 Speaker 2: at all. 186 00:08:05,613 --> 00:08:07,733 Speaker 3: It's a big one. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty 187 00:08:07,813 --> 00:08:09,693 Speaker 3: is the number of call. You can also teach through 188 00:08:09,853 --> 00:08:12,893 Speaker 3: nine to nine to two. It is a quarter past 189 00:08:12,933 --> 00:08:15,613 Speaker 3: one back fore shortly the. 190 00:08:15,653 --> 00:08:19,613 Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything 191 00:08:19,613 --> 00:08:23,133 Speaker 1: in between. That Heat and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for 192 00:08:23,213 --> 00:08:25,453 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four used TALKSB. 193 00:08:26,013 --> 00:08:28,133 Speaker 3: News Talks there B you're listening to Matt and Tyler 194 00:08:28,173 --> 00:08:30,893 Speaker 3: when we are talking about social housing on the back 195 00:08:31,053 --> 00:08:34,973 Speaker 3: of a concern from a developer at how much it's 196 00:08:35,013 --> 00:08:39,293 Speaker 3: cost king order to build several new apartments in meadow 197 00:08:39,293 --> 00:08:41,612 Speaker 3: Bank and average cost of one point two million dollars. 198 00:08:41,653 --> 00:08:43,373 Speaker 3: So what do we want out of our social housing? 199 00:08:43,413 --> 00:08:46,892 Speaker 3: You want them cheap, fast and dirty or what some argue, 200 00:08:47,093 --> 00:08:49,533 Speaker 3: wildly overvalued? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 201 00:08:49,533 --> 00:08:51,933 Speaker 3: the number to call. John. How are you this afternoon? 202 00:08:52,813 --> 00:08:53,013 Speaker 6: Good? 203 00:08:53,053 --> 00:08:53,213 Speaker 7: Bank? 204 00:08:53,293 --> 00:08:53,453 Speaker 8: Good? 205 00:08:53,492 --> 00:08:53,853 Speaker 9: How are you? 206 00:08:54,093 --> 00:08:54,293 Speaker 2: Yeah? 207 00:08:54,333 --> 00:08:56,453 Speaker 3: Good? What's your take on this one? 208 00:08:57,053 --> 00:08:59,813 Speaker 10: So I'm based in thek and we've got three different types. 209 00:09:00,012 --> 00:09:04,292 Speaker 10: We got cheap and nasty ki angle and then private 210 00:09:04,333 --> 00:09:06,773 Speaker 10: developers who build them and sell them to ky Agora, 211 00:09:09,012 --> 00:09:12,693 Speaker 10: the one in the middle swamp. The private developers building 212 00:09:12,693 --> 00:09:15,293 Speaker 10: them and selling them seems to be the best way. 213 00:09:16,293 --> 00:09:20,692 Speaker 10: The coy Angora houses. For some reason, they get engineers 214 00:09:20,773 --> 00:09:23,613 Speaker 10: from all over the country that fly up then you 215 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:26,853 Speaker 10: get quantity surveyors that fly up from christ Church to 216 00:09:26,933 --> 00:09:30,612 Speaker 10: test the soil. And it's just I saw one day 217 00:09:30,653 --> 00:09:32,933 Speaker 10: two people from Wellington and flowing up to the job 218 00:09:32,973 --> 00:09:36,372 Speaker 10: site in Hamilton to test the soil. When engineers and 219 00:09:36,413 --> 00:09:39,693 Speaker 10: Hamilton do that for three hundred buck, that's. 220 00:09:39,492 --> 00:09:41,732 Speaker 3: Off in the argument, doesn't it. John That when it 221 00:09:41,852 --> 00:09:46,492 Speaker 3: is tankspayer money is the case with Coying Order, then 222 00:09:46,693 --> 00:09:49,253 Speaker 3: running that through the budget sheet and making sure it's 223 00:09:49,333 --> 00:09:52,093 Speaker 3: value for money can be argued as not much of 224 00:09:52,132 --> 00:09:55,373 Speaker 3: a consideration as a private developer. That's what you're saying. 225 00:09:56,293 --> 00:09:58,733 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, And then the private developers they have to 226 00:09:58,732 --> 00:10:00,893 Speaker 10: build to a certain spec, but they get all their 227 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:04,173 Speaker 10: own Subby's and their own engineers. They do the whole 228 00:10:04,252 --> 00:10:07,933 Speaker 10: job to what Coyeing Aura wants. But then they had 229 00:10:07,933 --> 00:10:11,173 Speaker 10: the the place over at the end done to the aspect. 230 00:10:11,012 --> 00:10:11,732 Speaker 11: A lot cheaper. 231 00:10:13,213 --> 00:10:15,213 Speaker 10: And then we've got on the flip side there's houses 232 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:19,893 Speaker 10: well pods being imported from China and built up as 233 00:10:20,612 --> 00:10:24,493 Speaker 10: the cheap and nasty, which is just dumbfounding to me 234 00:10:24,533 --> 00:10:26,893 Speaker 10: because our tax fan money is going to over to 235 00:10:26,973 --> 00:10:30,093 Speaker 10: China and not to our building, our builders and our 236 00:10:30,093 --> 00:10:31,973 Speaker 10: sobs and everyone, you know, were. 237 00:10:31,813 --> 00:10:34,973 Speaker 2: The ones that we're flying people up to look up 238 00:10:34,973 --> 00:10:38,573 Speaker 2: for around the country. Are these prototypes? Are these models 239 00:10:38,612 --> 00:10:41,052 Speaker 2: are going to be repeated and they're getting the original 240 00:10:41,132 --> 00:10:45,012 Speaker 2: right or is that happening across every. 241 00:10:44,693 --> 00:10:49,053 Speaker 10: Build from what I've seen. If it's if it's a 242 00:10:49,093 --> 00:10:53,333 Speaker 10: build that's been built by Coglehora, then you could get 243 00:10:53,333 --> 00:10:56,693 Speaker 10: people flying from all over the place. They'll use they'll 244 00:10:56,732 --> 00:11:02,172 Speaker 10: use their own, their own people instead of locals. It's 245 00:11:02,213 --> 00:11:06,613 Speaker 10: our project managing the whole job that is, yeah. Yeah, 246 00:11:06,612 --> 00:11:08,893 Speaker 10: And they get local building companies sort of it to 247 00:11:08,973 --> 00:11:11,773 Speaker 10: complete the works, but they oversee and project manage the 248 00:11:11,773 --> 00:11:14,333 Speaker 10: whole project and that's where the balloon of money goes. 249 00:11:15,693 --> 00:11:18,093 Speaker 3: Are you talking about Yeah? Yeah, I mean this is 250 00:11:18,132 --> 00:11:21,253 Speaker 3: almost privatizing our social housing John. 251 00:11:23,053 --> 00:11:27,012 Speaker 10: Ye know, we're doing it at the moment. There's developers 252 00:11:27,132 --> 00:11:30,892 Speaker 10: in Hamilton that that firehouse followed over and they'll put 253 00:11:30,892 --> 00:11:34,412 Speaker 10: four or five units on it to aspect you know, 254 00:11:34,453 --> 00:11:37,773 Speaker 10: it's going to have certain doors, door handles, tap where 255 00:11:37,813 --> 00:11:39,573 Speaker 10: all that stuff's going to be to a certain point, 256 00:11:39,773 --> 00:11:43,732 Speaker 10: no garages, things like that, and then that's sold as 257 00:11:43,732 --> 00:11:47,372 Speaker 10: a contract build to the government and it's a hell 258 00:11:47,413 --> 00:11:49,373 Speaker 10: of a lot cheaper than buying it, or are trying 259 00:11:49,372 --> 00:11:50,173 Speaker 10: to build it themselves. 260 00:11:51,252 --> 00:11:54,493 Speaker 2: As location an issue, what's your view on where you 261 00:11:54,573 --> 00:11:56,933 Speaker 2: put these houses? You put them are together in one spot, 262 00:11:57,213 --> 00:12:00,253 Speaker 2: or you put them in prime location locations. 263 00:12:02,293 --> 00:12:04,173 Speaker 10: We seem to have a sort of a mass of both. 264 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:10,213 Speaker 10: We've got them in nice areas, which to some people 265 00:12:10,293 --> 00:12:12,933 Speaker 10: is probably not the right thing. But I think putting 266 00:12:12,973 --> 00:12:14,932 Speaker 10: them all in one area you'll end up with a 267 00:12:15,012 --> 00:12:18,213 Speaker 10: similar thing to emergency housing. And then Wilton, the whole 268 00:12:19,252 --> 00:12:21,813 Speaker 10: whole hotel scene just seems to the emergency housing, and 269 00:12:21,852 --> 00:12:24,933 Speaker 10: then that just becomes a bit of a squalor, I guess. 270 00:12:24,973 --> 00:12:29,453 Speaker 10: But yeah, spreading them out. Spreading them out means that 271 00:12:29,533 --> 00:12:31,933 Speaker 10: then the jobs and the schools and everything's all spread out, 272 00:12:31,933 --> 00:12:35,213 Speaker 10: and hopefully there's more opportunities for people to move into 273 00:12:35,252 --> 00:12:36,573 Speaker 10: the communities on their own. 274 00:12:36,973 --> 00:12:41,053 Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting point. I mean on the question of for you, Matt, 275 00:12:41,213 --> 00:12:45,252 Speaker 3: question of privatizing our social housing, taking it out of 276 00:12:45,293 --> 00:12:48,293 Speaker 3: the hands of kind or order. And as John mentioned, 277 00:12:48,413 --> 00:12:50,172 Speaker 3: there's a bit of a hybrid model going on where 278 00:12:50,213 --> 00:12:52,973 Speaker 3: you do have community organizations that pick up some of 279 00:12:52,973 --> 00:12:56,853 Speaker 3: the social housing stock and then run it themselves. And 280 00:12:56,892 --> 00:12:59,973 Speaker 3: these are not for profit organizations. Is there any merit 281 00:13:00,132 --> 00:13:03,773 Speaker 3: to having some of that stock privatized and getting developers 282 00:13:03,773 --> 00:13:05,412 Speaker 3: in there who may be able to do a better job. 283 00:13:05,573 --> 00:13:07,492 Speaker 2: Well, as long as it's the built to a standard, 284 00:13:07,693 --> 00:13:10,053 Speaker 2: as long as you've got good houses for the best 285 00:13:10,053 --> 00:13:14,453 Speaker 2: possible money, obviously the best price, best houses, best price. Yeah, 286 00:13:14,732 --> 00:13:18,213 Speaker 2: I mean if if there's governmental inefficiencies that they're causing 287 00:13:18,213 --> 00:13:21,932 Speaker 2: their problems, then then sure see how else can do 288 00:13:21,973 --> 00:13:23,093 Speaker 2: it and get the better price. 289 00:13:23,132 --> 00:13:23,372 Speaker 12: Going. 290 00:13:23,573 --> 00:13:25,852 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 291 00:13:25,852 --> 00:13:27,693 Speaker 3: to call. What do we want from our social housing? 292 00:13:27,813 --> 00:13:30,293 Speaker 3: Is one point two million dollars on average for an 293 00:13:30,293 --> 00:13:33,293 Speaker 3: apartment in meadow Bank. Too much love to hear from you. 294 00:13:33,372 --> 00:13:35,852 Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. It's twenty 295 00:13:35,852 --> 00:13:36,533 Speaker 3: two past one. 296 00:13:38,653 --> 00:13:43,093 Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast. 297 00:13:42,653 --> 00:13:46,173 Speaker 13: More foreign investments into this country, particularly for infrastructure. It's 298 00:13:46,213 --> 00:13:47,772 Speaker 13: a policy in New Zealand. First we'll take to the 299 00:13:47,813 --> 00:13:50,132 Speaker 13: next election. Apparently Leader Winston Peters is with us. 300 00:13:50,132 --> 00:13:52,213 Speaker 6: They they want the question answered why would we come 301 00:13:52,252 --> 00:13:54,213 Speaker 6: to New Zealand and we have over a long period 302 00:13:54,252 --> 00:13:56,093 Speaker 6: of times failed to answer that question. Why would I 303 00:13:56,093 --> 00:13:58,253 Speaker 6: pick the Zune over another country and we fail to 304 00:13:58,252 --> 00:14:00,132 Speaker 6: answer that question for deg it up the decade, it's 305 00:14:00,132 --> 00:14:02,533 Speaker 6: because Bree's disappointing. We need to answer that question. 306 00:14:02,612 --> 00:14:03,693 Speaker 2: Now, what is the answer. 307 00:14:03,693 --> 00:14:05,292 Speaker 6: Well, you're going to say, if you come to this country, 308 00:14:05,333 --> 00:14:07,132 Speaker 6: then you're going to get an advantas do as will 309 00:14:07,173 --> 00:14:09,373 Speaker 6: match the best in the world. Your taxation will be 310 00:14:09,573 --> 00:14:12,453 Speaker 6: substantially lower than it would have been in another country, 311 00:14:12,492 --> 00:14:14,813 Speaker 6: and therefore this will be in wist countries to invest 312 00:14:14,852 --> 00:14:17,213 Speaker 6: in Ireland, Singapore Dinner Taiwan? 313 00:14:17,252 --> 00:14:20,013 Speaker 13: Did it back tomorrow at six am The Mike Hosking 314 00:14:20,053 --> 00:14:24,093 Speaker 13: Breakfast with Maybe's Real Estate News Talk ZB Good afternoons. 315 00:14:24,173 --> 00:14:27,253 Speaker 3: Here we aren't talking about A new Kying auto complex 316 00:14:27,293 --> 00:14:29,133 Speaker 3: has opened in Auckland at a cost of one point 317 00:14:29,173 --> 00:14:33,133 Speaker 3: two million per apartment. It's caused one of New Zealand's 318 00:14:33,173 --> 00:14:36,133 Speaker 3: leading developers to call the state run agencies record of 319 00:14:36,173 --> 00:14:39,692 Speaker 3: running up billions in debt a national scandal and embarrassment. 320 00:14:39,853 --> 00:14:41,853 Speaker 3: So what do we actually want from our social housing? 321 00:14:41,893 --> 00:14:44,773 Speaker 3: Do we want cheap and fast or do we want 322 00:14:45,293 --> 00:14:48,053 Speaker 3: apartments that and houses for that matter, that are going 323 00:14:48,093 --> 00:14:49,653 Speaker 3: to last the distance? So Ight one hundred and eighty 324 00:14:49,653 --> 00:14:51,613 Speaker 3: ten eighty Matt Heath. You've got a couple of points 325 00:14:51,613 --> 00:14:52,093 Speaker 3: you want to make. 326 00:14:52,693 --> 00:14:54,653 Speaker 2: Oh, I was just saying that, you know, I'll be 327 00:14:54,653 --> 00:14:57,493 Speaker 2: interested to know. Do social houses how close do they 328 00:14:57,493 --> 00:14:59,653 Speaker 2: get to paying themselves off across their lifetime? 329 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:01,173 Speaker 3: Good question. 330 00:15:02,093 --> 00:15:03,932 Speaker 2: As of thirty one January twenty two one, on the 331 00:15:03,933 --> 00:15:07,653 Speaker 2: average weekly market rent for one of these properties to 332 00:15:07,813 --> 00:15:12,613 Speaker 2: bedroom five hundred and thirteen, well three bedrooms on average 333 00:15:12,653 --> 00:15:13,213 Speaker 2: six hundred and. 334 00:15:13,213 --> 00:15:15,133 Speaker 3: Twenty one sounds pretty cheap to me. 335 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:18,093 Speaker 2: It's definitely cheap. Yeah, but over its lifetime do you 336 00:15:18,133 --> 00:15:18,453 Speaker 2: get there? 337 00:15:18,653 --> 00:15:20,573 Speaker 3: They do make a loss, no doubt about it. And 338 00:15:20,613 --> 00:15:22,733 Speaker 3: I believe, and I've just got to find the numbers, 339 00:15:22,853 --> 00:15:24,932 Speaker 3: but I believe the loss that they made in the 340 00:15:25,013 --> 00:15:29,373 Speaker 3: last financial year was two point five billion dollars. 341 00:15:29,773 --> 00:15:32,293 Speaker 2: Yeah right, but that's also on top of the building 342 00:15:32,413 --> 00:15:34,493 Speaker 2: of the houses. Yeah, that one and Patoni I was 343 00:15:34,493 --> 00:15:38,333 Speaker 2: talking about from nineteen oh five, the first ever workingmen's 344 00:15:38,333 --> 00:15:43,293 Speaker 2: cottage that was built. I've mentionined that one's made a 345 00:15:43,293 --> 00:15:44,333 Speaker 2: profit by now is this. 346 00:15:44,373 --> 00:15:45,213 Speaker 3: To a social house? 347 00:15:45,413 --> 00:15:47,573 Speaker 2: I doubt it. Someone would have made a lot of 348 00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:49,253 Speaker 2: money off the government buying that at some point and 349 00:15:49,253 --> 00:15:49,773 Speaker 2: selling it on. 350 00:15:49,893 --> 00:15:52,133 Speaker 3: I bet they have. Malcolm, how are you this afternoon. 351 00:15:52,173 --> 00:15:53,253 Speaker 9: Hello, how are you going? 352 00:15:53,293 --> 00:15:54,653 Speaker 10: Gos Hey? 353 00:15:55,293 --> 00:15:58,213 Speaker 9: My take on it really is the government building a 354 00:15:58,253 --> 00:16:02,213 Speaker 9: lot of houses. I would be going into a contract 355 00:16:02,253 --> 00:16:06,813 Speaker 9: where the government or whatever business is, it could happen 356 00:16:06,853 --> 00:16:10,093 Speaker 9: to anyone. You would only pay for materials, you'd only 357 00:16:10,133 --> 00:16:14,093 Speaker 9: pay cost. How much? How much markup are these guys 358 00:16:14,133 --> 00:16:16,853 Speaker 9: putting on these builds for the government? You know, because 359 00:16:16,893 --> 00:16:19,413 Speaker 9: if I've built a couple of places and I've just 360 00:16:19,453 --> 00:16:21,973 Speaker 9: paid labor only, so why shouldn't they do the same. 361 00:16:22,213 --> 00:16:23,973 Speaker 3: I would have thought they'd get a better deal, you know, 362 00:16:24,013 --> 00:16:26,573 Speaker 3: because it's economies of scale, isn't it. And when you're 363 00:16:26,613 --> 00:16:30,893 Speaker 3: a government buying these materials in such large amounts, I 364 00:16:30,933 --> 00:16:33,013 Speaker 3: would have thought they'd get a far better deal than 365 00:16:33,053 --> 00:16:34,133 Speaker 3: a private developer. 366 00:16:35,413 --> 00:16:38,213 Speaker 9: But yeah, that they would. But are they You know 367 00:16:38,573 --> 00:16:40,933 Speaker 9: when they say this house costs a one point two million, 368 00:16:42,213 --> 00:16:44,493 Speaker 9: how much have they paid for the materials? Well, how 369 00:16:44,533 --> 00:16:46,213 Speaker 9: much they paid for the sheet plaster board? 370 00:16:46,293 --> 00:16:48,493 Speaker 2: Well that cuates to one point two million per apartment, 371 00:16:48,493 --> 00:16:50,973 Speaker 2: but it arises to one point seven million if the 372 00:16:51,373 --> 00:16:55,613 Speaker 2: four million value of the land is added on. But 373 00:16:55,613 --> 00:16:58,213 Speaker 2: of course they already owned the land, so arguably the 374 00:16:58,253 --> 00:17:00,213 Speaker 2: price of each of these ones is actually one point 375 00:17:00,213 --> 00:17:02,733 Speaker 2: seven million in real terms if they were going to 376 00:17:02,733 --> 00:17:04,853 Speaker 2: build it on land they had to buy. 377 00:17:05,093 --> 00:17:10,292 Speaker 9: Yeah, Malcolm, you can build a good three bedroom home 378 00:17:11,133 --> 00:17:15,933 Speaker 9: for about three hundred thousand worth of materials. So why 379 00:17:16,293 --> 00:17:18,333 Speaker 9: where does this one point two million come from? 380 00:17:18,453 --> 00:17:20,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a big chunk of that is in the 381 00:17:20,413 --> 00:17:23,613 Speaker 3: land value. Right We all know that anyone who's had 382 00:17:23,653 --> 00:17:26,773 Speaker 3: to build a property recently would know the vast chunk 383 00:17:26,853 --> 00:17:27,973 Speaker 3: of the value comes in the land. 384 00:17:28,053 --> 00:17:28,173 Speaker 12: Right. 385 00:17:28,173 --> 00:17:32,253 Speaker 2: Well, in this one Tyler, one point two million per apartment, 386 00:17:32,413 --> 00:17:34,973 Speaker 2: is that is the cost of actual building per apartment? 387 00:17:35,093 --> 00:17:36,733 Speaker 4: Because Yeah, that's what I thought. 388 00:17:36,733 --> 00:17:38,053 Speaker 9: That's the worrying thing. 389 00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:39,773 Speaker 2: Because the land value is not counted on that because 390 00:17:39,773 --> 00:17:40,653 Speaker 2: they already owned the land. 391 00:17:40,733 --> 00:17:41,813 Speaker 4: Yeah. 392 00:17:41,813 --> 00:17:43,693 Speaker 9: Well, you know, even if you did fifty to fifty 393 00:17:43,773 --> 00:17:45,733 Speaker 9: labor and materials, so it kind of rand bys you 394 00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:46,693 Speaker 9: a lot of materials. 395 00:17:46,893 --> 00:17:49,053 Speaker 2: And if you're ensuring your house for one point two million, 396 00:17:49,453 --> 00:17:51,333 Speaker 2: would be a hell of a house that you're enjoying 397 00:17:51,373 --> 00:17:53,413 Speaker 2: for the rebuilt. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to read. 398 00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:54,933 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to sure my house for one 399 00:17:54,973 --> 00:17:57,333 Speaker 2: point two million for a rebuilt Yeah. 400 00:17:57,413 --> 00:17:59,773 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that you know, someone's being taken for 401 00:17:59,813 --> 00:18:00,053 Speaker 9: a bit. 402 00:17:59,973 --> 00:18:00,453 Speaker 14: Of a riety. 403 00:18:00,773 --> 00:18:02,773 Speaker 3: But what do you do, Malcolm, Because Bill English has 404 00:18:02,813 --> 00:18:07,373 Speaker 3: already led a review into the agency's debts. So if 405 00:18:07,893 --> 00:18:09,493 Speaker 3: what you say say is true, and it appears to 406 00:18:09,493 --> 00:18:12,933 Speaker 3: be that they are widely overspending on materials and certainly 407 00:18:12,973 --> 00:18:15,493 Speaker 3: over spending to build these apartments, what do we do here? 408 00:18:15,533 --> 00:18:19,413 Speaker 3: Do we set up another organization to overview how much 409 00:18:19,493 --> 00:18:20,933 Speaker 3: they're spending on these things? 410 00:18:21,173 --> 00:18:22,973 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, this is the thing I've heard you guys 411 00:18:23,013 --> 00:18:25,292 Speaker 9: say before. But someone going from Willington up to Auckland 412 00:18:25,373 --> 00:18:29,693 Speaker 9: or something to check the soil conditions, that's obviously with 413 00:18:29,813 --> 00:18:31,853 Speaker 9: a kilous. You know, I wouldn't do that for my 414 00:18:31,893 --> 00:18:35,813 Speaker 9: own property, but I think someone you know, at the 415 00:18:35,933 --> 00:18:37,413 Speaker 9: end of the day, all you've got to do is 416 00:18:37,733 --> 00:18:41,253 Speaker 9: get a apartment or a house, get it priced up 417 00:18:41,613 --> 00:18:45,333 Speaker 9: through placemakers or whoever, and find out what those materials cost. 418 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:46,693 Speaker 9: Because that they do it. I've had it done. I've 419 00:18:46,693 --> 00:18:50,013 Speaker 9: built places before, and that they give you a schedule 420 00:18:50,053 --> 00:18:52,973 Speaker 9: of materials costing and I think a lot of people 421 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:54,812 Speaker 9: be surprised at how little it costs. 422 00:18:55,533 --> 00:18:59,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. Developers, trade ees, chippies, please 423 00:18:59,373 --> 00:19:01,973 Speaker 3: give us a call. How could it possibly cost one 424 00:19:02,013 --> 00:19:05,613 Speaker 3: point two million dollars in terms of building and material 425 00:19:06,013 --> 00:19:07,653 Speaker 3: Love to hear from you, Oh, eight hundred and eighty 426 00:19:07,813 --> 00:19:10,813 Speaker 3: ten eight, got to take a break. Headlines are coming up. 427 00:19:10,853 --> 00:19:11,733 Speaker 3: It's one point thirty. 428 00:19:14,453 --> 00:19:18,053 Speaker 14: US talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's 429 00:19:18,133 --> 00:19:21,373 Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. Former Green Party MP 430 00:19:21,573 --> 00:19:24,773 Speaker 14: Gorri's Garnaman has filed an appeal renewing her bit for 431 00:19:24,893 --> 00:19:28,693 Speaker 14: a discharge without conviction. She was convicted in June for 432 00:19:28,733 --> 00:19:32,533 Speaker 14: shoplifting nearly nine thousand dollars worth of retail items from 433 00:19:32,653 --> 00:19:36,493 Speaker 14: high end stores. Three people are in North Shore Hospital, 434 00:19:36,773 --> 00:19:40,013 Speaker 14: two with serious injuries after a gas leak at Auckland 435 00:19:40,133 --> 00:19:45,493 Speaker 14: Early Childhood Center. Caterpillars to butterflies in Hillcrest. No children 436 00:19:45,533 --> 00:19:49,893 Speaker 14: are harmed. Foodstuff says it recorded effectively no increase in 437 00:19:49,973 --> 00:19:53,413 Speaker 14: overall prices in the past year, although stats NZ says 438 00:19:53,493 --> 00:19:56,573 Speaker 14: food prices rose about one point two percent in the 439 00:19:56,613 --> 00:20:01,213 Speaker 14: past year. 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You 447 00:20:27,413 --> 00:20:30,373 Speaker 14: can see the full video and story at Enzen Herald Premium. 448 00:20:30,573 --> 00:20:32,533 Speaker 14: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. 449 00:20:32,573 --> 00:20:34,773 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raylan, and we are talking about 450 00:20:34,813 --> 00:20:37,693 Speaker 3: a new kaying or auto complex that opened in Auckland 451 00:20:37,733 --> 00:20:40,573 Speaker 3: at a cost of one point two million per apartments. 452 00:20:40,653 --> 00:20:44,053 Speaker 3: It's upset one developer in particular, who he says it 453 00:20:44,413 --> 00:20:47,053 Speaker 3: should be a national embarrassment that it's costing that much 454 00:20:47,093 --> 00:20:48,532 Speaker 3: to build social housing. 455 00:20:49,093 --> 00:20:51,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, like all New Zealanders, when I look at a property, 456 00:20:51,573 --> 00:20:53,413 Speaker 2: ears sniff around the kitchen to see what it looks like. 457 00:20:53,613 --> 00:20:55,693 Speaker 2: And I've got to say, if I'd spent one point 458 00:20:55,693 --> 00:20:57,493 Speaker 2: two million dollars an apartment, I'd want to flash a 459 00:20:57,573 --> 00:21:00,973 Speaker 2: kitchen than the one they've put in there. It's got 460 00:21:01,013 --> 00:21:05,093 Speaker 2: a sort of basic stainless steel bench top and oven 461 00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:06,853 Speaker 2: and it's like an oven that I didn't even know 462 00:21:06,853 --> 00:21:08,973 Speaker 2: you could get any more of these ovens. It looks 463 00:21:09,013 --> 00:21:12,493 Speaker 2: like in nineteen fifties. It does coil oven that. 464 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,613 Speaker 3: I plucked out of a nineteen fifty social house. 465 00:21:15,613 --> 00:21:17,933 Speaker 2: It's brown new, it's brand new. It's a brand new oven. 466 00:21:17,973 --> 00:21:19,413 Speaker 2: I can see that. But I haven't seen an oven 467 00:21:19,493 --> 00:21:21,333 Speaker 2: like that for a very long time. And I wonder 468 00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:25,133 Speaker 2: if that's for appearances people like me, small minded people 469 00:21:25,173 --> 00:21:27,333 Speaker 2: like me going, it'd better not be fleasured in my kitchen. 470 00:21:27,773 --> 00:21:30,733 Speaker 2: That's exactly a flatter other than not be a snag. 471 00:21:30,973 --> 00:21:34,532 Speaker 3: That's exactly what they've gone for. Chris, how are you? 472 00:21:34,653 --> 00:21:35,173 Speaker 5: Oh good? 473 00:21:35,213 --> 00:21:38,173 Speaker 15: I'm just hearing all the same drama about all these 474 00:21:38,213 --> 00:21:43,573 Speaker 15: builders and dreamers that tend to you know, I think 475 00:21:43,613 --> 00:21:48,533 Speaker 15: that they can chokes the government one point two million? Well, 476 00:21:48,573 --> 00:21:51,053 Speaker 15: how do you gasify it? That's for the first thing. 477 00:21:51,213 --> 00:21:54,453 Speaker 15: But I just wanted to say this. I thought the 478 00:21:54,453 --> 00:21:58,413 Speaker 15: government tenders for the lowest price for when they go 479 00:21:58,493 --> 00:22:01,453 Speaker 15: and tender out for builders or developers to build housers, 480 00:22:01,973 --> 00:22:05,173 Speaker 15: get it balloons out to one point two million? How 481 00:22:05,173 --> 00:22:10,413 Speaker 15: do you justify the cost? And that when whether or 482 00:22:10,453 --> 00:22:13,213 Speaker 15: not a tender process was ever done at all? And 483 00:22:13,253 --> 00:22:18,093 Speaker 15: then so the answer the question is, I think the 484 00:22:18,133 --> 00:22:21,613 Speaker 15: builders and developers know that they can get the money 485 00:22:21,653 --> 00:22:25,133 Speaker 15: up the government. The government won't question it, and it's 486 00:22:25,173 --> 00:22:28,613 Speaker 15: just robbery to the taxpayers. 487 00:22:29,053 --> 00:22:31,453 Speaker 3: Do they always go for the lowest tender though, Chris, 488 00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:33,333 Speaker 3: I know that they've got the tender process, but I 489 00:22:33,333 --> 00:22:36,053 Speaker 3: don't think automatically they always go for the lowest cost option. 490 00:22:38,693 --> 00:22:42,573 Speaker 15: Well, yeah, well that's what I thought. And you know, 491 00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:48,053 Speaker 15: it's not about where they build. Maybe the view probably, 492 00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:52,253 Speaker 15: but I would say they're slightly if you're building a 493 00:22:52,293 --> 00:22:54,733 Speaker 15: house down the road for less than the price in 494 00:22:54,813 --> 00:22:58,133 Speaker 15: the same area and get builded up the other side 495 00:22:58,133 --> 00:23:01,333 Speaker 15: of meta think this for example, and it's costing one 496 00:23:01,333 --> 00:23:04,013 Speaker 15: point two million, while they must have go and brass 497 00:23:04,053 --> 00:23:11,413 Speaker 15: furniture or you know, are we putting remove what are 498 00:23:11,413 --> 00:23:12,052 Speaker 15: now falls? 499 00:23:12,093 --> 00:23:12,333 Speaker 14: Again? 500 00:23:13,533 --> 00:23:15,613 Speaker 2: Well, looking at the kitchen, it doesn't lock that flash me, 501 00:23:15,653 --> 00:23:20,813 Speaker 2: it looks very functional, very functional. The price tags includes engineer, 502 00:23:21,013 --> 00:23:24,533 Speaker 2: architects and cancel fees as well as infrastructure and construction 503 00:23:24,693 --> 00:23:30,253 Speaker 2: costs among other expenses. So I mean with the architectural fees, 504 00:23:30,293 --> 00:23:33,533 Speaker 2: are they just going to copy and paste the buildings 505 00:23:33,533 --> 00:23:35,253 Speaker 2: and a lot of different places, and do they save 506 00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:37,173 Speaker 2: money on those architectural fees going forward? 507 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:39,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, because was this one of the apartments that were 508 00:23:39,533 --> 00:23:41,373 Speaker 3: just off the plans? I take it not. Maybe they 509 00:23:41,373 --> 00:23:43,933 Speaker 3: had to get an architect and for this particular complex. 510 00:23:43,973 --> 00:23:46,573 Speaker 2: Well, we can definitely recognize the classic state house that 511 00:23:46,573 --> 00:23:48,573 Speaker 2: we always think of in the state House because they 512 00:23:48,653 --> 00:23:51,773 Speaker 2: repeated the plans in so many different places across the country. 513 00:23:51,853 --> 00:23:54,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, thank you very much. Some good questions. John, 514 00:23:54,973 --> 00:23:56,533 Speaker 3: you work in construction. 515 00:23:57,973 --> 00:24:00,933 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm yeah, I work in the industry. I'm 516 00:24:00,933 --> 00:24:04,532 Speaker 5: not a builder, but I do. I do tender my 517 00:24:04,693 --> 00:24:08,213 Speaker 5: product or my service for some of these going or refelled. 518 00:24:08,453 --> 00:24:12,733 Speaker 5: So the plans are very prescriptive as to what they require. 519 00:24:12,853 --> 00:24:15,813 Speaker 5: So in terms of people thinking that you just put 520 00:24:15,853 --> 00:24:18,053 Speaker 5: anything you like in there intended for it and get 521 00:24:18,093 --> 00:24:19,813 Speaker 5: more money out of it, I don't think that's actually 522 00:24:19,813 --> 00:24:23,613 Speaker 5: the case. My guess would be that the costs are 523 00:24:24,333 --> 00:24:26,653 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that there wouldn't be a developer out 524 00:24:26,653 --> 00:24:29,093 Speaker 5: there that premitive it if they could, But my guess 525 00:24:29,173 --> 00:24:32,933 Speaker 5: is the costs are not coming from the builders that 526 00:24:33,053 --> 00:24:35,773 Speaker 5: the extra money is going through. You know, you had 527 00:24:35,813 --> 00:24:38,213 Speaker 5: to go on before talking about people flying from Wellington 528 00:24:38,293 --> 00:24:41,373 Speaker 5: to test soil. Well, it sounds like classic government behavior. 529 00:24:44,333 --> 00:24:45,853 Speaker 5: My guess is you had a bit of that, I 530 00:24:45,853 --> 00:24:48,813 Speaker 5: would say, there's architects fees in there, and don't I 531 00:24:48,893 --> 00:24:50,373 Speaker 5: don't know if any of you have had anything to 532 00:24:50,373 --> 00:24:52,653 Speaker 5: do with an architect But men, those guys are not 533 00:24:52,813 --> 00:24:53,733 Speaker 5: shy of charging. 534 00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:56,093 Speaker 3: Yep, they love invoicing. 535 00:24:57,613 --> 00:25:00,613 Speaker 5: They do love invoicing, and they charge skyhime for stuff. 536 00:25:00,613 --> 00:25:03,413 Speaker 5: And also, if you're a counsel and you're charging the government, 537 00:25:05,893 --> 00:25:07,933 Speaker 5: you're a monopoly. Though you wouldn't have to worry about 538 00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:09,173 Speaker 5: someone else under telling you. 539 00:25:09,293 --> 00:25:12,733 Speaker 2: The council gets some revenge on central government. How how 540 00:25:12,853 --> 00:25:17,253 Speaker 2: copy and paste are architectural designs? If they've got these ones, 541 00:25:17,253 --> 00:25:20,173 Speaker 2: this controversial one point ten million ones are they are 542 00:25:20,213 --> 00:25:21,933 Speaker 2: they going to be able to just put those same 543 00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:24,693 Speaker 2: buildings in different places? And how much money does that cost? 544 00:25:24,813 --> 00:25:26,853 Speaker 2: Or is it the lae of the land that that 545 00:25:26,853 --> 00:25:30,613 Speaker 2: that that's the cost in terms of building the same 546 00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:31,533 Speaker 2: house over and over again. 547 00:25:33,373 --> 00:25:37,013 Speaker 5: Look, I'm not sure the plans I see are different 548 00:25:37,053 --> 00:25:39,493 Speaker 5: each time to some extent or other. I do think 549 00:25:39,493 --> 00:25:43,453 Speaker 5: there's a big case for more cookie cutter stuff to happen. Yeah, 550 00:25:43,613 --> 00:25:45,573 Speaker 5: I mean you want it to be you know, you 551 00:25:45,653 --> 00:25:48,893 Speaker 5: want it to be warm and dry and safe, and 552 00:25:50,413 --> 00:25:55,013 Speaker 5: very much robust. But I think, you know, there's a 553 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:57,533 Speaker 5: lot that could be done there on costs of design 554 00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:02,133 Speaker 5: and you know, and the too much about what I do, 555 00:26:02,213 --> 00:26:05,733 Speaker 5: but the product that I supply, because of the way 556 00:26:05,773 --> 00:26:08,292 Speaker 5: they want these houses to all be insulated and everything, 557 00:26:08,893 --> 00:26:11,653 Speaker 5: the product I suppliers probably overspect for what it needs 558 00:26:11,693 --> 00:26:13,213 Speaker 5: to be because they want it insulated. 559 00:26:14,173 --> 00:26:19,093 Speaker 2: So do you care John, what the houses look like? 560 00:26:19,213 --> 00:26:19,253 Speaker 16: Is? 561 00:26:20,133 --> 00:26:22,253 Speaker 2: Do they have to be esthetically pleasing if they're going 562 00:26:22,333 --> 00:26:24,533 Speaker 2: to be put in neighborhoods and people are going to 563 00:26:24,573 --> 00:26:26,853 Speaker 2: be driving past looking at them, Is that a consideration 564 00:26:26,933 --> 00:26:27,373 Speaker 2: do you think? 565 00:26:28,853 --> 00:26:30,973 Speaker 5: I'm sure it is, And they are you know, they're 566 00:26:31,173 --> 00:26:35,893 Speaker 5: nice looking place. Yeah, they're nice looking places when they're 567 00:26:35,893 --> 00:26:39,933 Speaker 5: belt And again I think you know, you don't want 568 00:26:39,933 --> 00:26:42,173 Speaker 5: an eyesore, you don't want a carbone call on the corner. 569 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:47,133 Speaker 5: But you don't have to have you don't have to 570 00:26:47,173 --> 00:26:49,573 Speaker 5: have them architecturally designed all the time. They can be. 571 00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:52,253 Speaker 5: You know, you could come up with an a esthetically 572 00:26:52,293 --> 00:26:55,693 Speaker 5: pleasing design if you like, and then just repeat it 573 00:26:55,733 --> 00:26:58,813 Speaker 5: again and again. Was the only difference being the ground 574 00:26:58,813 --> 00:26:59,573 Speaker 5: that's going on us? 575 00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:01,413 Speaker 2: That would make sense, wouldn't it. 576 00:27:01,493 --> 00:27:03,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, what I well, I can kind of get my 577 00:27:03,853 --> 00:27:06,853 Speaker 3: head around it. But when this developer, in particular, he 578 00:27:06,973 --> 00:27:10,973 Speaker 3: raises the concern that he can build nice for purpose 579 00:27:11,053 --> 00:27:13,133 Speaker 3: homes at a fraction of the cost that Claying or 580 00:27:13,213 --> 00:27:16,733 Speaker 3: Order are building them for. That's a fair point, isn't it, John, 581 00:27:16,773 --> 00:27:20,453 Speaker 3: That there are developers out there and some go a 582 00:27:20,493 --> 00:27:22,532 Speaker 3: bit cheaper than others. But certainly if you can do 583 00:27:22,573 --> 00:27:24,213 Speaker 3: it in the private sector, you should be able to 584 00:27:24,253 --> 00:27:25,333 Speaker 3: do it in the government sector. 585 00:27:26,973 --> 00:27:29,693 Speaker 5: Absolutely. That's kind of my first point is I don't 586 00:27:29,733 --> 00:27:33,293 Speaker 5: think the cost is necessarily with the builders. I think 587 00:27:33,333 --> 00:27:35,693 Speaker 5: if you were to actually see a breakdown of how 588 00:27:35,933 --> 00:27:38,173 Speaker 5: how we got to one point seven million or whatever 589 00:27:38,253 --> 00:27:42,973 Speaker 5: for a three bedroom apartment, you might find that a 590 00:27:42,973 --> 00:27:45,413 Speaker 5: fair chunk of it was in back end stuff. 591 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,933 Speaker 3: Yep, good cool, John, Thank you very much. Got to 592 00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:52,573 Speaker 3: take a quick break each you want to mention something. 593 00:27:52,293 --> 00:27:54,973 Speaker 2: Man, No, I don't actually Okay, you're. 594 00:27:54,813 --> 00:27:56,333 Speaker 3: Going to have a thing about that point. We're going 595 00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:59,933 Speaker 3: to come back to it. It is twenty nine, No. 596 00:28:00,173 --> 00:28:02,493 Speaker 3: Nineteen to two. 597 00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:07,572 Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight mat 598 00:28:07,693 --> 00:28:10,893 Speaker 1: eaven Adams Afternoon News Talks'd be. 599 00:28:11,373 --> 00:28:13,493 Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you now. Matt, you were talking about 600 00:28:13,493 --> 00:28:17,013 Speaker 3: the kitchen in these one point two million dollar apartments, 601 00:28:17,013 --> 00:28:19,293 Speaker 3: and for you, not quite up to scratch, you're paying 602 00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:21,213 Speaker 3: one point two mil. You'd want a better kitchen than that. 603 00:28:21,413 --> 00:28:23,173 Speaker 2: Oh well for me, yeah, I mean if I had 604 00:28:23,173 --> 00:28:26,453 Speaker 2: paid that myself and then I would be looking at that. 605 00:28:26,653 --> 00:28:29,093 Speaker 2: But I was questioning whether these ovens even exist that 606 00:28:29,133 --> 00:28:30,893 Speaker 2: are in there. It looked like something from a nineteen 607 00:28:31,013 --> 00:28:34,413 Speaker 2: fifties at State House, and I thought, are they just 608 00:28:34,453 --> 00:28:36,213 Speaker 2: putting it in there for the photos that, you know, 609 00:28:36,533 --> 00:28:38,133 Speaker 2: for optics that they don't want to have someone with 610 00:28:38,173 --> 00:28:42,933 Speaker 2: a three thousand dollars Smeg nothing European in there. You've 611 00:28:43,053 --> 00:28:45,053 Speaker 2: priced it up though, I'm pretty sure, and this is 612 00:28:45,093 --> 00:28:46,653 Speaker 2: just the its, so I could be wrong. At the 613 00:28:46,693 --> 00:28:49,733 Speaker 2: oven that's in this this one point two million dollar 614 00:28:49,813 --> 00:28:52,533 Speaker 2: young at all our house, the seven hundred and eighty 615 00:28:52,573 --> 00:28:54,253 Speaker 2: one I think it is. I think it's a Westinghouse 616 00:28:54,293 --> 00:28:58,533 Speaker 2: sixteen centimeter mercury free standing oven, and I've found it 617 00:28:58,573 --> 00:29:00,133 Speaker 2: on trade me for seven hundred and eighty one dollars. 618 00:29:00,173 --> 00:29:00,893 Speaker 3: That's good value. 619 00:29:00,893 --> 00:29:03,773 Speaker 2: That's new though, that's not that's not second second hand, 620 00:29:04,173 --> 00:29:06,613 Speaker 2: so you still you can still get them. But I mean, 621 00:29:06,973 --> 00:29:09,613 Speaker 2: I've seen these ones up to hang in a minute, yeah, 622 00:29:09,613 --> 00:29:12,613 Speaker 2: and I've seen these ones up to two thousand dollars 623 00:29:12,653 --> 00:29:14,413 Speaker 2: for similar looking oven. I just didn't know anyone was 624 00:29:14,453 --> 00:29:16,413 Speaker 2: running ovens like that anymore, you know, with the coil and. 625 00:29:16,573 --> 00:29:19,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't see them unless you're staying in quite 626 00:29:19,093 --> 00:29:21,173 Speaker 3: a dated motel and then you see one of those 627 00:29:21,173 --> 00:29:22,853 Speaker 3: bad boys. How much do you pay for your oven? 628 00:29:23,413 --> 00:29:27,213 Speaker 2: Recent one? Yeah, that's a that's a very personal question. 629 00:29:27,973 --> 00:29:32,133 Speaker 2: Nine ninety nine dollars? What brand there was a gas oven? Yeah? 630 00:29:32,253 --> 00:29:33,133 Speaker 3: What what brand? 631 00:29:33,853 --> 00:29:34,093 Speaker 11: That was? 632 00:29:34,133 --> 00:29:34,533 Speaker 12: A Smag? 633 00:29:36,053 --> 00:29:38,293 Speaker 3: I've got a SMG kettle not quite as nice as 634 00:29:38,333 --> 00:29:39,293 Speaker 3: an oven, but they look good. 635 00:29:39,453 --> 00:29:43,173 Speaker 2: It was an amusing name, Smig. But they make great products. 636 00:29:43,173 --> 00:29:45,213 Speaker 2: And look, I think I think as a country, when 637 00:29:45,213 --> 00:29:47,533 Speaker 2: we're when we're knickling and diming on the one point 638 00:29:47,533 --> 00:29:49,373 Speaker 2: two million dollar house, we're glad that they're not putting 639 00:29:49,773 --> 00:29:50,733 Speaker 2: Smeag appliances in. 640 00:29:50,733 --> 00:29:53,253 Speaker 3: There Westing House all the way, Trevor, what do you reckon? 641 00:29:54,213 --> 00:29:57,013 Speaker 12: Hey, guys, Yeah, that sounds a hell of a lot 642 00:29:57,013 --> 00:29:59,333 Speaker 12: of money. But you know, I was I was told 643 00:29:59,373 --> 00:30:01,733 Speaker 12: something many many years ago, and I think it's true, 644 00:30:01,773 --> 00:30:04,053 Speaker 12: and I still believe it. You know when it comes 645 00:30:04,093 --> 00:30:07,853 Speaker 12: to private and or government. Yeah, you give a politician 646 00:30:08,013 --> 00:30:10,813 Speaker 12: a die, I'll turn it into fifty cents. You give 647 00:30:10,853 --> 00:30:12,813 Speaker 12: a businessman a dollar and he'll turn it into a 648 00:30:12,853 --> 00:30:16,213 Speaker 12: dollar fifty And to me and to me, that's the 649 00:30:16,253 --> 00:30:18,493 Speaker 12: big difference when you're compared it to I mean, I 650 00:30:18,533 --> 00:30:21,413 Speaker 12: remember when kvy board come out. You know, so twife 651 00:30:21,733 --> 00:30:26,093 Speaker 12: he said we've got two billion dollars to invest in housing, right, 652 00:30:26,173 --> 00:30:29,253 Speaker 12: two billion dollars, And I couldn't help thinking then if 653 00:30:29,253 --> 00:30:33,413 Speaker 12: they went to reputable companies like JJ Gardner, I don't know, 654 00:30:33,413 --> 00:30:35,453 Speaker 12: the lectures might be one and say, look, we've got 655 00:30:35,453 --> 00:30:39,933 Speaker 12: a countee here of two point two billion dollars, what 656 00:30:39,973 --> 00:30:43,093 Speaker 12: can you give us. I've got no doubt the end 657 00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:45,493 Speaker 12: result would be better that we got out of it. 658 00:30:45,973 --> 00:30:48,293 Speaker 12: And you know, and you know, there would have been 659 00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:50,493 Speaker 12: a few things that didn't go right, but in the end, 660 00:30:50,493 --> 00:30:52,773 Speaker 12: it's all about value for money. And as I say, 661 00:30:52,813 --> 00:30:56,093 Speaker 12: I just think obviously, if the government can get as 662 00:30:56,213 --> 00:30:58,813 Speaker 12: technically as much money as they want, I mean, twife 663 00:30:58,813 --> 00:31:02,013 Speaker 12: had said he's got two billion dollars. So I mean, 664 00:31:02,053 --> 00:31:03,573 Speaker 12: if you had a thought about it and gave it 665 00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:06,893 Speaker 12: to people already know all the ins and outs of 666 00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:09,253 Speaker 12: building and stuff like that, you would have got a 667 00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:12,133 Speaker 12: much much better result. And as I say, I just 668 00:31:12,173 --> 00:31:15,693 Speaker 12: always work by the theory. You business people will turn your money. 669 00:31:15,693 --> 00:31:17,293 Speaker 12: They make money. They they had to make money. They 670 00:31:17,373 --> 00:31:19,693 Speaker 12: know how to get value for money. And then everything 671 00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:22,493 Speaker 12: I wanted to say is you know all these you 672 00:31:22,533 --> 00:31:25,213 Speaker 12: know all these rules and rents things that you know, 673 00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:28,053 Speaker 12: social shocks you should have, or subsidized house you should 674 00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,933 Speaker 12: have or where it should be. I just want to 675 00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:33,293 Speaker 12: remind all those people there's a lot of private people. 676 00:31:33,773 --> 00:31:36,733 Speaker 12: One of them certain areas of say Wellington, they can't 677 00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:40,613 Speaker 12: you know, they want everything in their house, but they can't. 678 00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:43,773 Speaker 12: So you know, I just think, you know, subsidized housing 679 00:31:43,933 --> 00:31:47,373 Speaker 12: or housing is provided by others. I just don't think 680 00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:50,373 Speaker 12: it's your right to have it, because there's a lot 681 00:31:50,373 --> 00:31:52,973 Speaker 12: of people out there doing it all themselves and they 682 00:31:53,213 --> 00:31:56,453 Speaker 12: just wish they had certain things, but they say, no, 683 00:31:57,213 --> 00:31:59,453 Speaker 12: we can't have it. You know, I'm not living onundr evaid, 684 00:31:59,933 --> 00:32:02,093 Speaker 12: but I can't. You know, I want to have a 685 00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:03,373 Speaker 12: smeg of them, but I can't. 686 00:32:03,733 --> 00:32:07,893 Speaker 3: And hope the point forver just on the first point 687 00:32:07,893 --> 00:32:10,533 Speaker 3: you made, it's about teaming up with the likes of GJ. 688 00:32:11,413 --> 00:32:14,253 Speaker 3: To me, that's not a silly idea that you look at. 689 00:32:14,293 --> 00:32:16,773 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be GJ, Mike greerstone Wood, whoever. 690 00:32:16,813 --> 00:32:20,213 Speaker 3: You want, private guys who, private developers, who know what 691 00:32:20,253 --> 00:32:24,013 Speaker 3: they're doing, and they can build thousands, tens of thousands 692 00:32:24,053 --> 00:32:26,013 Speaker 3: of home and they've got the background to prove it. 693 00:32:26,373 --> 00:32:29,173 Speaker 3: Teeming up with kyng order and saying we need a 694 00:32:29,173 --> 00:32:31,813 Speaker 3: bit of a hand on doing this right doesn't sound 695 00:32:31,893 --> 00:32:32,773 Speaker 3: like a silly idea to me. 696 00:32:32,853 --> 00:32:35,893 Speaker 2: Mmm, although I'm still down the rabbit hole of these ovens. 697 00:32:36,533 --> 00:32:38,213 Speaker 3: Oh you got to upgrade the smeig or radiate. 698 00:32:38,293 --> 00:32:40,013 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm 699 00:32:40,053 --> 00:32:42,373 Speaker 2: very happy with my smeg are very very happy indeed. 700 00:32:42,373 --> 00:32:43,693 Speaker 2: And actually I want to walk that back. When I 701 00:32:43,693 --> 00:32:45,413 Speaker 2: said it was two thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine, 702 00:32:45,493 --> 00:32:47,573 Speaker 2: I got the shop floor one and the store was 703 00:32:47,573 --> 00:32:49,253 Speaker 2: closing down, so I got a little bit cheaper than that. 704 00:32:49,293 --> 00:32:51,613 Speaker 3: You've got a good discom I'm a clever buyer. Yeah, 705 00:32:51,133 --> 00:32:52,813 Speaker 3: you're in touch with the common man. 706 00:32:52,893 --> 00:32:54,533 Speaker 2: I could be wrong, I think when I went and 707 00:32:54,533 --> 00:32:58,253 Speaker 2: said it was the seven hundred and forty eight dollar Westinghouse, 708 00:32:58,813 --> 00:33:01,533 Speaker 2: I'm actually seeing one here that's one nine hundred and 709 00:33:01,573 --> 00:33:03,453 Speaker 2: ninety nine, which looks very similar. 710 00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,213 Speaker 3: So I opened it around just comm a wee look 711 00:33:05,213 --> 00:33:07,093 Speaker 3: and sorry, this is radio fick. Oh yeah, that's a 712 00:33:07,173 --> 00:33:08,653 Speaker 3: nice oven though it's the. 713 00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:11,613 Speaker 2: Same one, isn't It could easily? You can't tell. I 714 00:33:11,613 --> 00:33:14,493 Speaker 2: don't know why that Westinghouse fifty four centimeter electric free 715 00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:16,973 Speaker 2: standing ovens is one thousand, nine hundred ninety nine and 716 00:33:17,013 --> 00:33:18,333 Speaker 2: the other one seven hundred and forty eight. 717 00:33:18,533 --> 00:33:20,173 Speaker 3: There's a lot of oven chat going on, and there's 718 00:33:20,213 --> 00:33:22,893 Speaker 3: one point two million dollar apartment. That's only what one 719 00:33:22,893 --> 00:33:24,173 Speaker 3: percent of the bold is. 720 00:33:24,173 --> 00:33:27,213 Speaker 2: Saying, is that New Zealanders we care about when we 721 00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:28,773 Speaker 2: go to look around a property. The first thing we 722 00:33:28,773 --> 00:33:30,613 Speaker 2: do when you're when you're looking, you know, look to 723 00:33:30,613 --> 00:33:32,253 Speaker 2: buy a new property, where do you go? Kitchen in 724 00:33:32,253 --> 00:33:35,213 Speaker 2: the bathroom? Yeah, that's what you do. And when I 725 00:33:35,253 --> 00:33:37,293 Speaker 2: was looking at the pictures of this house, I went 726 00:33:37,293 --> 00:33:38,853 Speaker 2: straight to the kitchen and I thought, what kind of 727 00:33:38,893 --> 00:33:42,813 Speaker 2: oven is that? And I think it might be anywhere 728 00:33:42,853 --> 00:33:44,773 Speaker 2: between two thousand and seven hundred and forty eight dollars 729 00:33:44,813 --> 00:33:45,493 Speaker 2: somewhere in that range. 730 00:33:45,493 --> 00:33:47,853 Speaker 3: If you know exactly what type of oven are in 731 00:33:47,973 --> 00:33:49,293 Speaker 3: the kying hord homes. 732 00:33:49,533 --> 00:33:50,573 Speaker 2: Someone helped me out here. 733 00:33:50,573 --> 00:33:53,413 Speaker 3: That save Matt a lot of investigative work here, Mike, 734 00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:55,293 Speaker 3: how are you there? 735 00:33:55,293 --> 00:34:00,453 Speaker 11: You get me two things. One, some of the homes 736 00:34:00,493 --> 00:34:05,653 Speaker 11: that some people move into are going to be need 737 00:34:05,693 --> 00:34:06,613 Speaker 11: to be bulletproof. 738 00:34:07,013 --> 00:34:08,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, was they don't. 739 00:34:08,692 --> 00:34:16,013 Speaker 11: Look after the houses and they's the three have been 740 00:34:16,172 --> 00:34:20,053 Speaker 11: pretty brutal with the housing they get. And I wouldn't 741 00:34:20,053 --> 00:34:22,133 Speaker 11: worry about a stove of quite a few of them 742 00:34:22,173 --> 00:34:24,933 Speaker 11: don't even at a cook so wearing a bit of 743 00:34:24,933 --> 00:34:27,053 Speaker 11: stoves for them. 744 00:34:27,253 --> 00:34:28,973 Speaker 2: So you're saying that they need to build houses that 745 00:34:29,053 --> 00:34:34,053 Speaker 2: are basically unbreakable so you're not constantly having to fix 746 00:34:34,093 --> 00:34:34,453 Speaker 2: them up. 747 00:34:36,413 --> 00:34:40,213 Speaker 11: Dog heals that are unbreakable, Yeah, made out of very heavy, 748 00:34:40,293 --> 00:34:43,893 Speaker 11: juicy materials that are very hard to kick a hole in. 749 00:34:45,013 --> 00:34:47,413 Speaker 11: That's I've seen them. 750 00:34:47,773 --> 00:34:48,053 Speaker 5: I know. 751 00:34:48,533 --> 00:34:52,773 Speaker 11: Yeah, there's places like that. But the other thing is 752 00:34:52,813 --> 00:35:02,773 Speaker 11: that when the houses are being pulled down, all of 753 00:35:02,813 --> 00:35:05,413 Speaker 11: the houses that have been targeted or full down are 754 00:35:06,453 --> 00:35:10,812 Speaker 11: houses that have thought contaminates in them. So they've got 755 00:35:10,853 --> 00:35:14,093 Speaker 11: a specius on the walls and ceilings and all that 756 00:35:14,173 --> 00:35:19,493 Speaker 11: has to be removed for they cost for money, and 757 00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:28,213 Speaker 11: a lot of situations when they when people do an 758 00:35:28,293 --> 00:35:30,013 Speaker 11: oral change on their car, they just take it out 759 00:35:30,013 --> 00:35:31,973 Speaker 11: of the back and just drop the oil on the ground, 760 00:35:32,373 --> 00:35:36,093 Speaker 11: and sometimes that oil seeps into the ground and you've 761 00:35:36,093 --> 00:35:38,652 Speaker 11: got to clean up. Some of those cleanups can cost 762 00:35:39,453 --> 00:35:40,853 Speaker 11: hundreds of thousands of dollars. 763 00:35:41,213 --> 00:35:41,373 Speaker 3: Yeah. 764 00:35:41,453 --> 00:35:44,613 Speaker 11: Yeah, you might have contaminants in the ground that they 765 00:35:44,613 --> 00:35:48,853 Speaker 11: have leaped through and over built in the sixties fifty. 766 00:35:49,653 --> 00:35:54,093 Speaker 11: They tend to be yeah, hard to remove. 767 00:35:54,293 --> 00:35:56,493 Speaker 3: And it's a very fair point, Mike, And you're quite right, 768 00:35:56,533 --> 00:35:59,333 Speaker 3: and we all know it. But part of the logic, 769 00:35:59,453 --> 00:36:03,533 Speaker 3: whether it pans out or not, I'm building nice modern fits. 770 00:36:03,533 --> 00:36:06,652 Speaker 3: The purpose homes was the hope that if you are 771 00:36:06,733 --> 00:36:09,133 Speaker 3: a tenant, a social housing ten and that you might 772 00:36:09,173 --> 00:36:10,853 Speaker 3: look after it a bit better. But it's a fair 773 00:36:10,853 --> 00:36:12,333 Speaker 3: point you make that they try and make them as 774 00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:15,093 Speaker 3: bulletproof as possible. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 775 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:19,653 Speaker 3: is a number to call. It is eight minutes to two. 776 00:36:20,373 --> 00:36:23,733 Speaker 1: Matt eat Taylor Adams teaking your calls on eight hundred 777 00:36:23,813 --> 00:36:28,493 Speaker 1: eighty mad Eath and Taylor Adams afternoons News TALKSB. 778 00:36:29,613 --> 00:36:32,453 Speaker 3: News TALKSB. Someone who's been listening to this discussion, as 779 00:36:32,493 --> 00:36:35,453 Speaker 3: Cameron Luxton. He is an MP for the ACT Party. 780 00:36:35,493 --> 00:36:36,093 Speaker 3: Get a Cameron. 781 00:36:37,253 --> 00:36:39,413 Speaker 7: Yeah, good then is that you Tyler? 782 00:36:39,493 --> 00:36:41,773 Speaker 3: Yeah it is now we've only got a couple of minutes. Cameron, Yeah, 783 00:36:42,253 --> 00:36:44,293 Speaker 3: nice to chat now. I know you were quoted in 784 00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:47,573 Speaker 3: this particular article you think it is a massive waste 785 00:36:47,573 --> 00:36:47,973 Speaker 3: of money. 786 00:36:49,053 --> 00:36:51,413 Speaker 7: I think it's a huge waste of money. It's quite 787 00:36:51,413 --> 00:36:55,013 Speaker 7: disappointing that, you know, we've got a public housing provider 788 00:36:55,053 --> 00:36:58,613 Speaker 7: here who's taking an exorbitant amount of money to build anything, 789 00:36:59,013 --> 00:37:00,853 Speaker 7: and you just think about the four people that are 790 00:37:00,853 --> 00:37:04,533 Speaker 7: living in low cost rentals or even high cost rentals, 791 00:37:04,573 --> 00:37:07,172 Speaker 7: paying their taxes, going to work, and then they hear 792 00:37:07,253 --> 00:37:10,293 Speaker 7: about one point two million dollars being spent on the 793 00:37:10,293 --> 00:37:14,252 Speaker 7: construction for I've actually, let's face it, you know, as 794 00:37:14,253 --> 00:37:17,213 Speaker 7: you guys have been talking about a bit of a 795 00:37:17,253 --> 00:37:22,013 Speaker 7: hardcore budget stainless steel bench apartment and really I think, 796 00:37:22,133 --> 00:37:24,293 Speaker 7: I mean for that sort of money, you'd be expecting 797 00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:26,573 Speaker 7: six star and I'm sure that's what Calling Order is 798 00:37:26,613 --> 00:37:29,453 Speaker 7: trying to develop. But actually the people that are out 799 00:37:29,453 --> 00:37:31,613 Speaker 7: there paying the taxes and having their money spent on 800 00:37:31,693 --> 00:37:34,293 Speaker 7: these types of developments want to be seeing a lot 801 00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:37,133 Speaker 7: better return from their money. And that goes to the 802 00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:41,493 Speaker 7: back office where you've got architects, engineers, planners. I'm sure 803 00:37:41,533 --> 00:37:44,013 Speaker 7: every type of consultant under the sun having a say, 804 00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,213 Speaker 7: and that's what's blowing out the price. And I've got 805 00:37:46,253 --> 00:37:49,093 Speaker 7: to say I appreciate some of the callers that you've 806 00:37:49,093 --> 00:37:52,613 Speaker 7: had calling in. I'm a builder myself. I'm an LBP. 807 00:37:52,773 --> 00:37:57,053 Speaker 7: I've been building since I left school, really, and you 808 00:37:57,053 --> 00:37:59,853 Speaker 7: know builders get a hard time. But actually it's a 809 00:37:59,853 --> 00:38:01,893 Speaker 7: lot of these costs are back office costs that are 810 00:38:01,893 --> 00:38:02,813 Speaker 7: inflating the price. 811 00:38:02,933 --> 00:38:05,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've said that very well, cameraon, but just you 812 00:38:05,133 --> 00:38:07,293 Speaker 3: want to put something to bed because Matt is hot 813 00:38:07,333 --> 00:38:09,373 Speaker 3: on this word. Do you know what type of oven 814 00:38:09,613 --> 00:38:11,333 Speaker 3: is in these climbing or order homes? 815 00:38:11,693 --> 00:38:11,893 Speaker 8: Yeah? 816 00:38:12,813 --> 00:38:14,293 Speaker 7: Yeah, I had to look at it. I assumed it 817 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:15,973 Speaker 7: was a good old faithful Fisher. 818 00:38:15,693 --> 00:38:18,013 Speaker 2: And pikel But yeah, I was having for that. Who 819 00:38:18,053 --> 00:38:20,253 Speaker 2: knows what kim a taste a kiwi but it's not 820 00:38:20,293 --> 00:38:22,692 Speaker 2: like a I've seen in a long time. But but 821 00:38:22,773 --> 00:38:26,613 Speaker 2: it could be anywhere between two thousand and seven hundred 822 00:38:26,613 --> 00:38:29,293 Speaker 2: and forty eight dollars. But it looks it does look 823 00:38:29,333 --> 00:38:32,693 Speaker 2: like a very basic kitchen. As you say, stand steel bench, 824 00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:37,573 Speaker 2: basic old fashioned oven and if I'd paid one point 825 00:38:37,573 --> 00:38:40,333 Speaker 2: two million, I'd want to flash a kitchen the net. Yeah. 826 00:38:40,373 --> 00:38:41,252 Speaker 4: Well, good on you, Matte. 827 00:38:41,253 --> 00:38:42,933 Speaker 7: And you know what, actually I kind of like the 828 00:38:42,933 --> 00:38:45,732 Speaker 7: old stainless steel benches because when you demo a house, 829 00:38:45,813 --> 00:38:47,933 Speaker 7: you pull them out sell them for fifty bucks for 830 00:38:48,013 --> 00:38:50,053 Speaker 7: a bit of a fillting beach for someone's backyard. 831 00:38:50,333 --> 00:38:53,773 Speaker 3: Exactly. Thank you very much. Good to chat, good discussion, 832 00:38:53,933 --> 00:38:57,013 Speaker 3: new sport and weather on its way. 833 00:38:58,653 --> 00:39:01,853 Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor 834 00:39:01,893 --> 00:39:06,172 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four News Talk si'd be. 835 00:39:07,173 --> 00:39:10,293 Speaker 3: Yes, good afternoon. I hope you're having a great Monday. 836 00:39:10,653 --> 00:39:14,733 Speaker 2: Who week two of the Matt and Tyler Afternoons on 837 00:39:14,893 --> 00:39:16,732 Speaker 2: News Talk ZB having a great time? 838 00:39:16,893 --> 00:39:18,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, so far, so good. That was a great hour 839 00:39:18,933 --> 00:39:21,053 Speaker 3: last hour. Really enjoyed that chat. Now, just before we 840 00:39:21,053 --> 00:39:23,093 Speaker 3: get into the next topic, man, yes. 841 00:39:23,093 --> 00:39:25,893 Speaker 2: So this text come through on two. Gooday their team 842 00:39:26,813 --> 00:39:29,493 Speaker 2: short time zed be a long time. Bespokey Doki and 843 00:39:29,573 --> 00:39:31,613 Speaker 2: Bespokey Dokey was the name of the podcast that I 844 00:39:31,773 --> 00:39:34,333 Speaker 2: was on before this down at Hodaki. Can you guys 845 00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:36,493 Speaker 2: please set up a podcast of the radio show. Really 846 00:39:36,573 --> 00:39:39,693 Speaker 2: enjoying it, but love to listen to Leslie. Some people 847 00:39:39,693 --> 00:39:42,373 Speaker 2: call me Leslie. My real name is Matt. When I'm 848 00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:45,213 Speaker 2: walking my dog Twitch. Speaking of which, could you do 849 00:39:45,253 --> 00:39:47,213 Speaker 2: a shout out to Twitch the dog? Oh Twitch? What 850 00:39:47,373 --> 00:39:49,613 Speaker 2: a good boy? Oh Twitch? Actually nine per cent of 851 00:39:49,653 --> 00:39:52,093 Speaker 2: my broadcasting before I game up year was pet shout outs, 852 00:39:52,093 --> 00:39:52,973 Speaker 2: and I'm still open to them. 853 00:39:53,013 --> 00:39:54,533 Speaker 3: You're really good at that. That's a great pot. 854 00:39:54,813 --> 00:39:56,973 Speaker 2: Twitch is such a good What a good doggie? What 855 00:39:57,093 --> 00:40:00,053 Speaker 2: a good good, good doggie? Well answer that question as yes. 856 00:40:00,733 --> 00:40:03,733 Speaker 2: Today is the first day of the Matt and Tyler 857 00:40:03,813 --> 00:40:06,253 Speaker 2: Afternoons podcast. This is all going to go out there 858 00:40:06,253 --> 00:40:10,053 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts, Heart Radio, wherever you get them. 859 00:40:10,213 --> 00:40:13,133 Speaker 2: We will have that pod coming out. It'll be the 860 00:40:13,173 --> 00:40:15,893 Speaker 2: show plus a sort of a bespoke intro to it. 861 00:40:16,013 --> 00:40:18,573 Speaker 3: Bit of yeah, it's give you a taste of what's 862 00:40:18,573 --> 00:40:19,613 Speaker 3: skilled out for the pod. 863 00:40:19,773 --> 00:40:22,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit of extra special 864 00:40:22,373 --> 00:40:23,613 Speaker 2: content just for the podcast. 865 00:40:23,693 --> 00:40:25,293 Speaker 3: Looking forward to that, and that's going to be published 866 00:40:25,293 --> 00:40:27,813 Speaker 3: about four thirty this afternoon. But right now, let's have 867 00:40:27,813 --> 00:40:30,013 Speaker 3: a chat about burns. People love chatting about. 868 00:40:30,493 --> 00:40:32,693 Speaker 2: Do you have you ever ever heard anyone call a 869 00:40:32,733 --> 00:40:33,573 Speaker 2: burm A verge. 870 00:40:34,093 --> 00:40:36,853 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, it's uncommon, though. 871 00:40:36,693 --> 00:40:37,893 Speaker 2: I'm quite comfortable with that. 872 00:40:38,573 --> 00:40:39,732 Speaker 3: Verge is a beautiful word. 873 00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:39,933 Speaker 4: Though. 874 00:40:40,053 --> 00:40:43,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, berms controversial can cause problems with your neighbors. What's 875 00:40:43,373 --> 00:40:44,373 Speaker 2: happening with berms? 876 00:40:44,453 --> 00:40:47,413 Speaker 3: So it's all kicking off and live in the live 877 00:40:47,493 --> 00:40:50,653 Speaker 3: in may be about to become New Zealand's scragglius town. 878 00:40:50,733 --> 00:40:52,652 Speaker 3: It's a lovely place to live in love living. But 879 00:40:52,773 --> 00:40:56,493 Speaker 3: according to one resident who's refusing to mow the large 880 00:40:56,493 --> 00:40:59,693 Speaker 3: berm outside his property. This is John Murphy. He reckons 881 00:41:00,053 --> 00:41:03,733 Speaker 3: he has the biggest boom in town. Bold statement, and 882 00:41:04,093 --> 00:41:06,813 Speaker 3: says he and his neighbors are up in arms at 883 00:41:06,853 --> 00:41:11,053 Speaker 3: hot Finu District Council's decision to cut rates by not 884 00:41:11,213 --> 00:41:16,053 Speaker 3: mowing roadside verges. Murphy's one of many angry at the council, 885 00:41:16,133 --> 00:41:18,213 Speaker 3: judging by a social media posts, and says he won't 886 00:41:18,213 --> 00:41:20,973 Speaker 3: mow his berm and protest. He reckons it's going to 887 00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:23,573 Speaker 3: cost another fifty bucks to get it done, so the 888 00:41:23,613 --> 00:41:26,293 Speaker 3: district council get a load of this made the decision 889 00:41:26,293 --> 00:41:29,252 Speaker 3: to stop urban boom mowing from July one to save 890 00:41:29,373 --> 00:41:32,333 Speaker 3: two hundred and forty thousand bucks a year. That's a 891 00:41:32,333 --> 00:41:32,933 Speaker 3: big saving. 892 00:41:33,453 --> 00:41:36,453 Speaker 2: I guess, so two hundred and forty thousand, So this 893 00:41:36,573 --> 00:41:39,733 Speaker 2: is around their proposed rates increases. 894 00:41:39,853 --> 00:41:42,172 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's going to cost Murphy fifty bucks because 895 00:41:42,173 --> 00:41:44,293 Speaker 3: he normally gets a contractor to do his lawns, but 896 00:41:44,333 --> 00:41:46,013 Speaker 3: said there was no way he was going to take 897 00:41:46,053 --> 00:41:49,733 Speaker 3: responsibility for the bom, which could fit a small house. 898 00:41:49,813 --> 00:41:52,652 Speaker 3: He says, the berm is bigger than the size of 899 00:41:52,653 --> 00:41:53,333 Speaker 3: his own lawn. 900 00:41:53,933 --> 00:41:55,973 Speaker 2: What I would say to him is, if the council 901 00:41:56,053 --> 00:41:58,893 Speaker 2: isn't mowing your berm, then you own that berm. If 902 00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:00,813 Speaker 2: you're mowing it, you can do what you like with 903 00:42:00,853 --> 00:42:03,493 Speaker 2: it within reason, you know, you can take ownership of 904 00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:07,813 Speaker 2: that boom. But we're here in Auckland. We haven't had 905 00:42:07,813 --> 00:42:09,973 Speaker 2: our berms mowing for a very long time. 906 00:42:10,053 --> 00:42:12,773 Speaker 3: How is your boom looking beautiful? Pretty tidy? 907 00:42:12,893 --> 00:42:17,933 Speaker 2: Oh, we have a tidy burm. We take pride in 908 00:42:17,973 --> 00:42:19,973 Speaker 2: our burm. And I'm not one of these people that 909 00:42:20,173 --> 00:42:23,253 Speaker 2: only does my burm and then has like sort of 910 00:42:23,533 --> 00:42:26,373 Speaker 2: an exact line between that and the neighbors. Yeah, I'll 911 00:42:26,373 --> 00:42:27,453 Speaker 2: do the neighbors berm as well. 912 00:42:27,493 --> 00:42:29,493 Speaker 3: Do you cut in nicely in between the berm and 913 00:42:29,493 --> 00:42:29,973 Speaker 3: the footpath? 914 00:42:30,013 --> 00:42:33,053 Speaker 2: Well, not me personally, but I proud when I take 915 00:42:33,093 --> 00:42:34,652 Speaker 2: a lot of pride when I come home and I 916 00:42:34,693 --> 00:42:36,533 Speaker 2: see the job that's been done on the berm. 917 00:42:36,973 --> 00:42:39,252 Speaker 3: Hang on a minute, so who who is looking after 918 00:42:39,293 --> 00:42:42,453 Speaker 3: your boom? Instantly sounding very elitist. 919 00:42:42,773 --> 00:42:45,133 Speaker 2: I get a professional and to do the booms and 920 00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:49,813 Speaker 2: about fifty bucks, I'm not sure, but does a great job. 921 00:42:50,213 --> 00:42:54,813 Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, getting your berm, I don't know, 922 00:42:54,893 --> 00:42:56,493 Speaker 2: there is a joy in it. There is a joy 923 00:42:56,613 --> 00:42:58,732 Speaker 2: in mowing your lawns that I'm doing. 924 00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:00,733 Speaker 3: I think it's that pride in the neighborhood. Well, the 925 00:43:00,733 --> 00:43:03,133 Speaker 3: contractor is doing it, so he's looking after you know, 926 00:43:03,293 --> 00:43:06,053 Speaker 3: your status within the neighborhood is okay because you've got 927 00:43:06,053 --> 00:43:07,533 Speaker 3: a contract to come in and looking after week. 928 00:43:07,573 --> 00:43:09,413 Speaker 2: Well, you know, they say one's got a messy desk, 929 00:43:09,493 --> 00:43:12,172 Speaker 2: or a messy room or a messy office, it means 930 00:43:12,173 --> 00:43:14,172 Speaker 2: that their mind's messy. If you're walking down a street 931 00:43:14,213 --> 00:43:16,373 Speaker 2: and you see an out of controlled berm, you go 932 00:43:16,533 --> 00:43:18,973 Speaker 2: there's problems pressure. There's problems at home. 933 00:43:19,133 --> 00:43:21,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's peer pressure for you don't want the 934 00:43:21,733 --> 00:43:24,533 Speaker 3: worst berm on the street, because otherwise you're going to 935 00:43:24,573 --> 00:43:26,893 Speaker 3: start getting letters in your mailbox. Saying sort your berm out. 936 00:43:26,933 --> 00:43:28,212 Speaker 3: For goodness saying, sort your burm out. 937 00:43:28,253 --> 00:43:29,732 Speaker 2: But do you think it should be the council's job 938 00:43:29,773 --> 00:43:30,333 Speaker 2: to do booms? 939 00:43:30,373 --> 00:43:32,333 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. I think you should take pride 940 00:43:32,373 --> 00:43:34,533 Speaker 3: in your own community, your own neighborhood and sort your 941 00:43:34,533 --> 00:43:36,573 Speaker 3: own burm out. Where I don't think we've ever had 942 00:43:36,733 --> 00:43:39,053 Speaker 3: counsel molars and christ Us, there's never been a thing. 943 00:43:39,053 --> 00:43:41,453 Speaker 3: You've always sorted your own burm out. And if you 944 00:43:41,453 --> 00:43:43,653 Speaker 3: didn't want to sort your burm out, then the neighborhood 945 00:43:44,133 --> 00:43:46,212 Speaker 3: would would get on your case and say you can't 946 00:43:46,213 --> 00:43:46,893 Speaker 3: have it looking like that. 947 00:43:47,453 --> 00:43:51,333 Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay. So but if what I would say that, 948 00:43:51,373 --> 00:43:53,493 Speaker 2: if if you are sorting out your own berm or 949 00:43:53,653 --> 00:43:57,813 Speaker 2: verge as some weirdos call them, and the council's not, 950 00:43:57,893 --> 00:43:59,733 Speaker 2: then I think you have more ownership on what you 951 00:43:59,773 --> 00:44:02,093 Speaker 2: do on that berm. I think you can. You can 952 00:44:02,093 --> 00:44:04,813 Speaker 2: plant what you want on there, you can within reason, 953 00:44:04,893 --> 00:44:08,732 Speaker 2: around pipes and such. I think you you'd be able 954 00:44:08,773 --> 00:44:10,453 Speaker 2: to part plant whatever trees you want in there, and 955 00:44:10,493 --> 00:44:12,533 Speaker 2: the council come back. Can't come back in nicholin, di'm 956 00:44:12,533 --> 00:44:14,893 Speaker 2: you because you're they're not looking after your berm. So 957 00:44:15,013 --> 00:44:15,573 Speaker 2: go for your life. 958 00:44:15,573 --> 00:44:16,773 Speaker 3: What have you got on your boom? 959 00:44:16,813 --> 00:44:18,813 Speaker 2: I got an unsanctioned tree on my. 960 00:44:18,773 --> 00:44:21,093 Speaker 3: Boom, sancient tree? What country? 961 00:44:21,293 --> 00:44:21,973 Speaker 2: A pahoda car? 962 00:44:22,253 --> 00:44:22,812 Speaker 3: Oh man? 963 00:44:22,933 --> 00:44:23,253 Speaker 2: See that? 964 00:44:23,693 --> 00:44:26,213 Speaker 3: I mean that is just givin the council the middle finger, 965 00:44:26,253 --> 00:44:26,692 Speaker 3: isn't it? 966 00:44:27,213 --> 00:44:27,373 Speaker 4: Well? 967 00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:29,373 Speaker 2: They can't cut it down now, it's too beautiful and big. 968 00:44:29,613 --> 00:44:32,093 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, I'll throw this at you. So on 969 00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:34,573 Speaker 3: the boom down in christ Church. Obviously we're renting the 970 00:44:34,573 --> 00:44:36,733 Speaker 3: place out, so we don't really we can't take ownership 971 00:44:36,733 --> 00:44:38,733 Speaker 3: of that birm anymore. But I used to mow it 972 00:44:38,773 --> 00:44:41,493 Speaker 3: and it looked beautiful. But there was an existing tree 973 00:44:41,773 --> 00:44:43,613 Speaker 3: and it wasn't a perhoda car. I didn't even know 974 00:44:43,693 --> 00:44:45,533 Speaker 3: what it was. One of those skinny trees, didn't have 975 00:44:45,613 --> 00:44:48,053 Speaker 3: much foliage on it. Could I cut that down? 976 00:44:48,693 --> 00:44:49,773 Speaker 2: Yeah? 977 00:44:49,813 --> 00:44:53,093 Speaker 3: Sheapers right, get on the phones. No, I don't know 978 00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:57,053 Speaker 3: about that. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. Whose 979 00:44:57,093 --> 00:45:00,732 Speaker 3: responsibility is it to mow the berms? I genuinely think 980 00:45:00,733 --> 00:45:03,173 Speaker 3: that the council shouldn't have that responsibility. That should be 981 00:45:03,253 --> 00:45:05,813 Speaker 3: up to individual homeowners to sort out the berms. And 982 00:45:05,853 --> 00:45:08,093 Speaker 3: you tend to agree with the reviso that if you 983 00:45:08,133 --> 00:45:10,053 Speaker 3: do that. You should be able to do what you 984 00:45:10,093 --> 00:45:10,813 Speaker 3: want with that boom. 985 00:45:10,893 --> 00:45:12,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean within reason. But you have definitely have 986 00:45:12,933 --> 00:45:15,293 Speaker 2: more ownership over your berm if you're the one that's 987 00:45:15,373 --> 00:45:17,133 Speaker 2: looking out of it. They Cancil can't come past and 988 00:45:17,173 --> 00:45:19,493 Speaker 2: say this and that when they haven't done anything for 989 00:45:19,573 --> 00:45:20,093 Speaker 2: the berm. 990 00:45:20,213 --> 00:45:20,453 Speaker 4: Yep. 991 00:45:20,613 --> 00:45:22,293 Speaker 3: If you're in Livin as well, love to hear from 992 00:45:22,333 --> 00:45:24,933 Speaker 3: you as well. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 993 00:45:24,973 --> 00:45:27,212 Speaker 3: the number to call. It's thirteen past two. 994 00:45:29,173 --> 00:45:32,373 Speaker 1: You're a new home of Afternoon Talk and Ethen Taylor 995 00:45:32,413 --> 00:45:35,652 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoon Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 996 00:45:35,813 --> 00:45:39,573 Speaker 3: News Talk said, be good afternoon. You're listening to Matt 997 00:45:39,613 --> 00:45:42,973 Speaker 3: and Tyler and we've upset quite a few Texters about 998 00:45:42,973 --> 00:45:44,893 Speaker 3: the use of berm versus verge. 999 00:45:45,173 --> 00:45:47,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people say grass vergein that New Zealand. 1000 00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:49,133 Speaker 2: I've only just found this out. We're the only country 1001 00:45:49,133 --> 00:45:51,533 Speaker 2: in the world that refers to the shoulder of a 1002 00:45:51,693 --> 00:45:55,813 Speaker 2: road as a berm, describing a publicly owned grass nature 1003 00:45:55,813 --> 00:45:59,213 Speaker 2: strip sometimes planned with trees alongside edan roads. New Zealand's 1004 00:45:59,213 --> 00:46:01,093 Speaker 2: the only place in the world that calls it a berm. 1005 00:46:01,173 --> 00:46:03,133 Speaker 3: Not even the Aussies they call it a verge. 1006 00:46:03,333 --> 00:46:06,652 Speaker 2: According to what I'm reading here, we're the only ones 1007 00:46:06,653 --> 00:46:09,173 Speaker 2: that call it a berm. You know, a burm is 1008 00:46:09,213 --> 00:46:12,212 Speaker 2: often a sort of a stationary barrier of some kind, 1009 00:46:12,613 --> 00:46:16,213 Speaker 2: and if old Bmx's would know that, as I was 1010 00:46:16,253 --> 00:46:19,253 Speaker 2: as a child, race BMX bikes burn was a very 1011 00:46:19,293 --> 00:46:22,053 Speaker 2: different thing. Then yes, you go so, but we will 1012 00:46:22,053 --> 00:46:23,733 Speaker 2: accept anyone that wants to call it a verge or 1013 00:46:23,773 --> 00:46:25,652 Speaker 2: a boom. We're not going to Nike undying people on words, 1014 00:46:25,693 --> 00:46:27,093 Speaker 2: all right, then, Okay. 1015 00:46:26,853 --> 00:46:31,653 Speaker 3: Linda, good afternoon. Straight off the bat vergi or burm. 1016 00:46:31,253 --> 00:46:33,212 Speaker 17: Verge I come from, but I come from the UK 1017 00:46:33,253 --> 00:46:35,813 Speaker 17: and we've always called them grassburg Yes, so it was 1018 00:46:36,253 --> 00:46:38,013 Speaker 17: quite a novelty to me to come here and be 1019 00:46:38,053 --> 00:46:46,732 Speaker 17: told it was a. 1020 00:46:42,693 --> 00:46:46,493 Speaker 2: Well you use whatever term you want, Linda. Your thoughts 1021 00:46:46,533 --> 00:46:49,772 Speaker 2: on what the council should be doing around berms or verges. 1022 00:46:50,493 --> 00:46:53,213 Speaker 17: Well, I don't have a problem with mowing it because 1023 00:46:53,253 --> 00:46:56,893 Speaker 17: we've got quite a big Olost corner property and autland, 1024 00:46:57,333 --> 00:47:01,573 Speaker 17: so we have quite a big grass verge. But last year, 1025 00:47:01,693 --> 00:47:04,813 Speaker 17: after having lived in this house for seventeen years, the 1026 00:47:04,893 --> 00:47:09,213 Speaker 17: Count's come along planty two trees in surge past nothing. 1027 00:47:09,293 --> 00:47:12,653 Speaker 17: They just plunk two trees in the gros just outside 1028 00:47:12,693 --> 00:47:16,013 Speaker 17: my house. Nowhere else in the street, just outside my house. 1029 00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:19,853 Speaker 2: So you've been tending to this berm for it, did 1030 00:47:19,853 --> 00:47:22,732 Speaker 2: you say, seventeen years? And they're not even not even 1031 00:47:22,773 --> 00:47:26,212 Speaker 2: the decency to say, do you want two trees on 1032 00:47:26,373 --> 00:47:26,933 Speaker 2: your your. 1033 00:47:27,173 --> 00:47:30,573 Speaker 17: They just they just came along plunk two trees then 1034 00:47:31,173 --> 00:47:33,013 Speaker 17: and put up signs out looking after them. 1035 00:47:33,013 --> 00:47:35,293 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh so, and that makes you that 1036 00:47:35,333 --> 00:47:38,693 Speaker 2: makes your mowing more difficult, Linda, because now you're going 1037 00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:40,053 Speaker 2: to have to go around two trees. 1038 00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,293 Speaker 3: And you're going to get the lime trimmer out. What 1039 00:47:41,373 --> 00:47:44,253 Speaker 3: a pain. I can't abide by that though, And I'm wondering, 1040 00:47:44,293 --> 00:47:46,333 Speaker 3: because your burm might have been the best in the 1041 00:47:46,333 --> 00:47:48,652 Speaker 3: neighborhood that they've been eyeing that up and saying that's 1042 00:47:48,653 --> 00:47:51,212 Speaker 3: a nice place for a couple of trees without even asking. 1043 00:47:50,893 --> 00:47:54,133 Speaker 18: You what the fact. 1044 00:47:53,893 --> 00:47:54,212 Speaker 16: That they. 1045 00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:59,853 Speaker 2: Now are you But despite the rudeness, the impoliteness of 1046 00:47:59,973 --> 00:48:01,973 Speaker 2: the planking of those trees and your burm, are you 1047 00:48:02,053 --> 00:48:04,053 Speaker 2: happy with the trees? Because hasn't it generally better when 1048 00:48:04,053 --> 00:48:05,933 Speaker 2: you get a tree out in the front of your house. 1049 00:48:06,853 --> 00:48:09,893 Speaker 17: Well, I've got like three trees in my property. There's 1050 00:48:09,933 --> 00:48:13,213 Speaker 17: already about five trees in the street, so it was 1051 00:48:13,333 --> 00:48:15,732 Speaker 17: just why do I need these two extra ones? 1052 00:48:16,053 --> 00:48:17,853 Speaker 2: What type of tree if they put in there, Linda, 1053 00:48:18,333 --> 00:48:18,733 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1054 00:48:18,853 --> 00:48:22,093 Speaker 17: I think they're posty okay, right? 1055 00:48:23,453 --> 00:48:25,573 Speaker 3: Are they nice looking trees? I'm not familiar with it 1056 00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:27,133 Speaker 3: with that brand of tree. 1057 00:48:27,893 --> 00:48:30,172 Speaker 17: They're not very tall at the moment, they're only about 1058 00:48:30,253 --> 00:48:32,533 Speaker 17: six foot tall, so it's going to take a little 1059 00:48:32,533 --> 00:48:35,653 Speaker 17: while before they do anything with regards to providing shade 1060 00:48:35,693 --> 00:48:36,413 Speaker 17: or anything else. 1061 00:48:36,493 --> 00:48:39,253 Speaker 2: But see this, this annoys me, Linda, because I had 1062 00:48:39,253 --> 00:48:41,893 Speaker 2: the reverse situation where I had my boom that I 1063 00:48:41,933 --> 00:48:45,652 Speaker 2: was looking after lovingly, and then I looked at the 1064 00:48:45,693 --> 00:48:48,573 Speaker 2: piping plans and the schemes and worked out everything about 1065 00:48:48,613 --> 00:48:50,533 Speaker 2: it and thought I'd like a tree on my berm 1066 00:48:50,853 --> 00:48:53,973 Speaker 2: and I put it and exactly to my specifications. And 1067 00:48:54,053 --> 00:48:55,493 Speaker 2: the council was like, we're going to come past and 1068 00:48:55,573 --> 00:48:57,933 Speaker 2: cut down your tree that you've put it in there. 1069 00:48:58,453 --> 00:48:59,733 Speaker 2: I was like, no, you. 1070 00:48:59,653 --> 00:49:02,373 Speaker 3: Are not, but you did the geotechnical work before you 1071 00:49:02,413 --> 00:49:05,853 Speaker 3: planted the Bahuda kara is what you're saying, Yeah, absolutely rubbish. 1072 00:49:06,173 --> 00:49:08,053 Speaker 3: Those routes are destroying the part. 1073 00:49:09,093 --> 00:49:10,533 Speaker 4: But you go. 1074 00:49:11,893 --> 00:49:15,253 Speaker 17: It is strange though, because like some where I live, 1075 00:49:15,333 --> 00:49:17,853 Speaker 17: it gets really busy in the street and so I 1076 00:49:17,933 --> 00:49:21,933 Speaker 17: have parked on the grass before. Now so that because 1077 00:49:21,933 --> 00:49:25,053 Speaker 17: if I park on my driveway because it overlaps the pavement, 1078 00:49:25,053 --> 00:49:25,733 Speaker 17: I get a ticket. 1079 00:49:26,533 --> 00:49:30,613 Speaker 2: Yeah, I passed from the grass. 1080 00:49:29,253 --> 00:49:33,732 Speaker 17: Between my sense and the pathway and I was told 1081 00:49:33,733 --> 00:49:37,813 Speaker 17: by it's the council transport man who came around said 1082 00:49:37,813 --> 00:49:39,293 Speaker 17: to me, you're not law to park on the berm 1083 00:49:39,373 --> 00:49:42,772 Speaker 17: and I said, why not, it's my berm. He said no, 1084 00:49:42,853 --> 00:49:44,453 Speaker 17: it's a council birm and I said, well, if it's 1085 00:49:44,453 --> 00:49:46,172 Speaker 17: a council burm, why did they not know it? Why 1086 00:49:46,173 --> 00:49:46,933 Speaker 17: am I mowing it? 1087 00:49:48,493 --> 00:49:50,573 Speaker 2: And then they ifired back with two trees. That was 1088 00:49:51,053 --> 00:49:52,413 Speaker 2: they took a shot at your two trees. 1089 00:49:52,453 --> 00:49:55,173 Speaker 3: You made an enemy of the council LANDA thank you 1090 00:49:55,253 --> 00:49:57,533 Speaker 3: very much. That's good, But that is a bit of 1091 00:49:57,573 --> 00:50:00,693 Speaker 3: a point of order. Is that if it's your boom 1092 00:50:00,733 --> 00:50:03,173 Speaker 3: and you've been tinged into it and now you claim ownership, 1093 00:50:03,293 --> 00:50:05,133 Speaker 3: is that now a place that you can park a vehicle? 1094 00:50:06,493 --> 00:50:10,213 Speaker 2: It's a area I I actually get very annoyed in 1095 00:50:10,253 --> 00:50:13,172 Speaker 2: my neighborhood because there's people that it's just the pure 1096 00:50:13,213 --> 00:50:15,172 Speaker 2: anarchy of it that I can't understand people that park 1097 00:50:15,213 --> 00:50:18,093 Speaker 2: on burms. And there's a guy just down from me 1098 00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:20,173 Speaker 2: that parks on's bom and now he's got these huge 1099 00:50:20,253 --> 00:50:22,453 Speaker 2: holes in the berm with the tires are burning out 1100 00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:25,533 Speaker 2: the boom and I'm like, you are boy, you are 1101 00:50:25,853 --> 00:50:27,933 Speaker 2: Hunnis pushing the limit. 1102 00:50:28,933 --> 00:50:31,373 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten AC. Really can to 1103 00:50:31,413 --> 00:50:33,173 Speaker 3: hear from you on this one. Got to take a break. 1104 00:50:33,213 --> 00:50:37,413 Speaker 3: It is twenty one plus two. 1105 00:50:34,813 --> 00:50:41,613 Speaker 1: S Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred 1106 00:50:41,693 --> 00:50:43,733 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talks EDB. 1107 00:50:44,853 --> 00:50:47,613 Speaker 3: News Talks AB. We are talking about whose responsibility is 1108 00:50:47,613 --> 00:50:49,293 Speaker 3: it to look after the boom. This is on the 1109 00:50:49,293 --> 00:50:52,373 Speaker 3: back of a bit of a situation arising in live 1110 00:50:52,453 --> 00:50:55,172 Speaker 3: In where the council has stopped mowing the booms and 1111 00:50:55,213 --> 00:50:56,973 Speaker 3: a lot of residents are very unhappy about that. 1112 00:50:57,173 --> 00:51:00,093 Speaker 2: I've just been wowing you, Tyler with my perherd car 1113 00:51:00,293 --> 00:51:02,813 Speaker 2: that I illegally planted on my boom. What a beautiful 1114 00:51:02,853 --> 00:51:03,453 Speaker 2: tree that is. 1115 00:51:03,453 --> 00:51:05,212 Speaker 3: At that point it is And that was four years ago, 1116 00:51:05,333 --> 00:51:07,493 Speaker 3: was it five years ago? That's five years ago that one, 1117 00:51:07,573 --> 00:51:09,973 Speaker 3: So that would be about four times as big. 1118 00:51:10,013 --> 00:51:13,413 Speaker 2: Now it's massive. Now it's a real statement tree now 1119 00:51:13,533 --> 00:51:15,013 Speaker 2: that I plundered illegally on my boom. 1120 00:51:15,133 --> 00:51:17,453 Speaker 3: So the photo I'm looking at, Folcus is probably about 1121 00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:20,533 Speaker 3: five foot high, it is. That's a you know, that's 1122 00:51:20,533 --> 00:51:23,053 Speaker 3: a very beautiful BERHOODA car were not too big, not 1123 00:51:23,133 --> 00:51:24,173 Speaker 3: too again, leaping. 1124 00:51:24,013 --> 00:51:25,493 Speaker 2: Up with the beautiful Christmas reds. 1125 00:51:25,613 --> 00:51:28,013 Speaker 3: I can already see though that the roots are starting 1126 00:51:28,013 --> 00:51:28,813 Speaker 3: to become a problem. 1127 00:51:28,893 --> 00:51:32,173 Speaker 2: So I imagine that footpath is as correct. See that 1128 00:51:32,173 --> 00:51:34,613 Speaker 2: brunch there, yeah, you see that here. This is great radio, 1129 00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:36,573 Speaker 2: but that that was that you could basically climb on 1130 00:51:36,613 --> 00:51:38,333 Speaker 2: that branch there. Now I had to had to cut 1131 00:51:38,333 --> 00:51:40,973 Speaker 2: that off for visibility. When we're backing out of the driveway. 1132 00:51:41,893 --> 00:51:43,333 Speaker 3: Lorraine, how are you this afternoon? 1133 00:51:44,493 --> 00:51:44,652 Speaker 19: Hi? 1134 00:51:45,053 --> 00:51:47,853 Speaker 20: And so when I first started listening, you were talking 1135 00:51:47,853 --> 00:51:51,652 Speaker 20: about booms, and I wasn't that interested because for me, 1136 00:51:51,693 --> 00:51:53,653 Speaker 20: a burn a firm is a mound. 1137 00:51:54,453 --> 00:51:54,692 Speaker 8: Yes. 1138 00:51:55,933 --> 00:51:58,692 Speaker 20: Then I heard about the verge, and oh my god, 1139 00:51:58,773 --> 00:51:59,253 Speaker 20: I've got. 1140 00:51:59,133 --> 00:52:00,093 Speaker 17: A third story. 1141 00:52:00,853 --> 00:52:04,933 Speaker 20: So my property was kind of like on a corner 1142 00:52:04,973 --> 00:52:08,652 Speaker 20: of a street, so I had a big bern on 1143 00:52:08,693 --> 00:52:12,933 Speaker 20: my side. So what I did was I planted a hedge, 1144 00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:16,813 Speaker 20: and I obviously I was going to maintain the hedge, 1145 00:52:16,813 --> 00:52:20,573 Speaker 20: and because it was at an angle, it met up 1146 00:52:20,573 --> 00:52:23,373 Speaker 20: with the neighbor's fence, but it kind of made a 1147 00:52:23,413 --> 00:52:27,133 Speaker 20: little private spot in front of me. Anyway, the neighbors 1148 00:52:27,693 --> 00:52:31,013 Speaker 20: the council called and said you've planted a hedge on 1149 00:52:31,053 --> 00:52:34,133 Speaker 20: the bridge and I said, yes, I did, and they said, well, 1150 00:52:35,053 --> 00:52:37,853 Speaker 20: you were going to increase your rates by four hundred 1151 00:52:37,893 --> 00:52:38,533 Speaker 20: dollars a year. 1152 00:52:38,693 --> 00:52:42,533 Speaker 2: Hang, where are you living? 1153 00:52:42,573 --> 00:52:42,613 Speaker 21: What? 1154 00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:45,893 Speaker 2: What towns? 1155 00:52:44,973 --> 00:52:45,133 Speaker 22: Right? 1156 00:52:45,933 --> 00:52:47,773 Speaker 2: And can I just get give this in my head quickly? 1157 00:52:47,933 --> 00:52:52,933 Speaker 2: So is which side of the pavement is this verge 1158 00:52:52,973 --> 00:52:55,533 Speaker 2: of yours? Is that the one closest you've planted the hedge? 1159 00:52:55,573 --> 00:52:58,013 Speaker 2: Is that the one right side your fence? Obviously? 1160 00:52:59,253 --> 00:53:00,933 Speaker 20: Yeah, what do you see I didn't have a fence 1161 00:53:00,933 --> 00:53:01,292 Speaker 20: in front. 1162 00:53:01,373 --> 00:53:04,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yeah, So it'll be crazy because I was 1163 00:53:04,693 --> 00:53:06,213 Speaker 2: going to say that it's crazy if you've put if 1164 00:53:06,253 --> 00:53:09,172 Speaker 2: you've planted the hedge down on the side of the road. 1165 00:53:09,253 --> 00:53:11,772 Speaker 2: But and then maybe I can understand what they're getting at. 1166 00:53:12,613 --> 00:53:15,413 Speaker 20: But what I left on the other side of the pavement, 1167 00:53:15,693 --> 00:53:19,453 Speaker 20: So you get the pavement and then verge and then 1168 00:53:19,493 --> 00:53:22,013 Speaker 20: the hedge. The amount I left between the pavement and 1169 00:53:22,053 --> 00:53:24,573 Speaker 20: the hedge was the same amount as. 1170 00:53:24,453 --> 00:53:27,333 Speaker 23: A normal verge, right, so it's not. 1171 00:53:27,453 --> 00:53:32,653 Speaker 20: Like the hedge wasn't like right on the pavement. So anyway, 1172 00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:36,453 Speaker 20: I said, okay, you want to charge me four hundred 1173 00:53:36,453 --> 00:53:38,893 Speaker 20: dollars a year to put up my head? I said, 1174 00:53:38,933 --> 00:53:40,973 Speaker 20: I am going to look after this hedge. I don't 1175 00:53:40,973 --> 00:53:43,973 Speaker 20: expect you to look after the hedge. And they said, no, no, 1176 00:53:44,013 --> 00:53:45,813 Speaker 20: we're not going to look after the hedge. I said, well, look, 1177 00:53:45,813 --> 00:53:50,093 Speaker 20: i'll tell you what. I won't charge you four hundred 1178 00:53:50,173 --> 00:53:52,613 Speaker 20: dollars a year for me mowing your. 1179 00:53:52,533 --> 00:53:55,253 Speaker 3: Property, Lorraine. And what did they say to that? 1180 00:53:56,613 --> 00:53:58,773 Speaker 20: Oh, well, it's the poor lady on the other end 1181 00:53:58,773 --> 00:54:02,373 Speaker 20: of the phone. She's got no you want me, You 1182 00:54:02,453 --> 00:54:05,853 Speaker 20: want me to look after it, and yet I don't 1183 00:54:05,893 --> 00:54:07,133 Speaker 20: have any say as to what. 1184 00:54:07,053 --> 00:54:07,772 Speaker 5: Happens to it. 1185 00:54:08,413 --> 00:54:09,453 Speaker 2: Does the hedge still stand? 1186 00:54:11,293 --> 00:54:11,613 Speaker 5: Pardon? 1187 00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:12,893 Speaker 2: Does the hedge still stand? 1188 00:54:13,253 --> 00:54:13,373 Speaker 7: Oh? 1189 00:54:13,613 --> 00:54:17,933 Speaker 2: Victory the hedge has been there is congratulations. 1190 00:54:17,973 --> 00:54:19,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, well done, going back for the. 1191 00:54:19,253 --> 00:54:22,893 Speaker 20: Good guys eight times four hundred, Yeah. 1192 00:54:23,053 --> 00:54:23,493 Speaker 2: Well done. 1193 00:54:23,533 --> 00:54:26,453 Speaker 3: So David and versus live situation. So what what did 1194 00:54:26,453 --> 00:54:28,973 Speaker 3: they actually want to charge you for? So they weren't 1195 00:54:28,973 --> 00:54:30,973 Speaker 3: going to tend to the hedge that that was going 1196 00:54:31,013 --> 00:54:33,573 Speaker 3: to be all you what were they actually charging the 1197 00:54:33,653 --> 00:54:35,453 Speaker 3: increase of four hundred bucks per year for? 1198 00:54:37,213 --> 00:54:40,413 Speaker 20: They were charging it onto the rates because it increased 1199 00:54:40,653 --> 00:54:44,853 Speaker 20: the footprint of my property. 1200 00:54:45,173 --> 00:54:46,053 Speaker 3: They'll try anything. 1201 00:54:46,973 --> 00:54:49,613 Speaker 20: I don't know. I don't know it. So are you 1202 00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:51,813 Speaker 20: going to move the boundary then? Since I'm paying for it? 1203 00:54:52,053 --> 00:54:52,653 Speaker 21: They said no. 1204 00:54:53,813 --> 00:54:55,533 Speaker 2: It sounds like you've stood up for your rights. You 1205 00:54:55,653 --> 00:54:58,213 Speaker 2: rage against the machine and you won. Hey, yeah, this 1206 00:54:58,293 --> 00:55:00,453 Speaker 2: is going to this is going to blow your mind people. 1207 00:55:00,493 --> 00:55:02,253 Speaker 2: And I knew this already. But you know what they 1208 00:55:02,293 --> 00:55:06,373 Speaker 2: call a burm or a Virgin Australia a nature strip? 1209 00:55:06,653 --> 00:55:07,293 Speaker 3: Nature strip. 1210 00:55:07,293 --> 00:55:10,333 Speaker 2: It's a nature strip. Yeah, there you go, according to 1211 00:55:10,333 --> 00:55:11,853 Speaker 2: a text on nine two nine two. I think I've 1212 00:55:11,853 --> 00:55:14,453 Speaker 2: heard that before. A nature strip. That's terrible name for it. 1213 00:55:14,613 --> 00:55:16,413 Speaker 3: They do the booms pretty well in Nassy though, I 1214 00:55:16,413 --> 00:55:18,893 Speaker 3: mean I've even been everywhere in Aussy to be frank, 1215 00:55:18,973 --> 00:55:22,333 Speaker 3: but Melbourne, Sydney beautiful looking booms and I think they 1216 00:55:22,333 --> 00:55:24,973 Speaker 3: are mowed by the council, right, that is you know 1217 00:55:24,973 --> 00:55:26,812 Speaker 3: a right that you have over in AUSSI oh, eight hundred 1218 00:55:26,813 --> 00:55:29,893 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty quick couple of texts and then 1219 00:55:29,933 --> 00:55:33,252 Speaker 3: we'll get to the headlines. Let's I'm a lawn contractor. 1220 00:55:33,773 --> 00:55:37,173 Speaker 3: Perherda car or. Trees are the worst to work around. 1221 00:55:37,413 --> 00:55:39,573 Speaker 3: The branches break and end up all over the place, 1222 00:55:40,053 --> 00:55:43,773 Speaker 3: and the bud things that come off them hurt like 1223 00:55:44,013 --> 00:55:48,413 Speaker 3: a mofo when you weed eat. Booms are great, though, 1224 00:55:48,573 --> 00:55:51,093 Speaker 3: I can charge more and are normally easy work. Thanks 1225 00:55:51,173 --> 00:55:51,493 Speaker 3: Kenny G. 1226 00:55:51,773 --> 00:55:55,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I look after my perhotes and it's got 1227 00:55:55,773 --> 00:55:58,573 Speaker 2: a long trunk before the first trees, so it doesn't 1228 00:55:58,573 --> 00:56:01,253 Speaker 2: affect other people's visibility. I'm not not letting it do 1229 00:56:01,333 --> 00:56:04,013 Speaker 2: its own thing. I'm treating it almost like a bond 1230 00:56:04,093 --> 00:56:08,453 Speaker 2: SiGe how perfectly formed it is, and I will I 1231 00:56:08,493 --> 00:56:11,573 Speaker 2: will pick up those bits of whatever, those things that 1232 00:56:11,613 --> 00:56:12,692 Speaker 2: fall off it, I'll pick them up. 1233 00:56:12,893 --> 00:56:14,093 Speaker 3: Why did you go for her to color? 1234 00:56:14,613 --> 00:56:14,973 Speaker 5: Ah? 1235 00:56:15,013 --> 00:56:17,253 Speaker 2: Because there's such a beautiful tree and they come out 1236 00:56:17,253 --> 00:56:21,573 Speaker 2: at Christmas and with the reds and it they bring 1237 00:56:21,653 --> 00:56:24,013 Speaker 2: so much joy to the world. I mean they also, 1238 00:56:24,653 --> 00:56:27,013 Speaker 2: you know, lift pavements and cause a lot of damage. 1239 00:56:27,533 --> 00:56:28,933 Speaker 2: But I just love them. I just love them as 1240 00:56:28,933 --> 00:56:29,212 Speaker 2: a tree. 1241 00:56:29,333 --> 00:56:31,453 Speaker 3: But hopes is it because it's also a native and 1242 00:56:31,493 --> 00:56:33,053 Speaker 3: that makes it a bit harder for the council to 1243 00:56:33,093 --> 00:56:36,652 Speaker 3: cut down. Once it's fully growing, and now you've taken 1244 00:56:36,653 --> 00:56:37,693 Speaker 3: ownership of that boom. 1245 00:56:37,773 --> 00:56:39,733 Speaker 2: I just bought a house and I thought it needs 1246 00:56:39,773 --> 00:56:41,893 Speaker 2: a tree here, so I shoved it in there, and 1247 00:56:41,893 --> 00:56:44,133 Speaker 2: I'll put my favorite trave of tree there and I 1248 00:56:44,173 --> 00:56:46,533 Speaker 2: will chain myself to it. If the council comes to 1249 00:56:46,533 --> 00:56:46,773 Speaker 2: get it. 1250 00:56:46,893 --> 00:56:48,893 Speaker 3: I hope it comes to that. Please let it come 1251 00:56:48,933 --> 00:56:50,973 Speaker 3: to that. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty 1252 00:56:51,533 --> 00:56:54,093 Speaker 3: whose responsibility is the boom when it comes to mow? 1253 00:56:54,173 --> 00:56:55,933 Speaker 3: And it's all kicking off? And live in love to 1254 00:56:55,973 --> 00:56:58,653 Speaker 3: hear from you nineteen ninety two is the text number 1255 00:56:58,693 --> 00:57:03,013 Speaker 3: headlines on their way. 1256 00:57:03,093 --> 00:57:03,693 Speaker 2: Youse talks. 1257 00:57:03,733 --> 00:57:07,253 Speaker 14: There'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble 1258 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:10,413 Speaker 14: with a blue bubble. A judge has reserved a decision 1259 00:57:10,453 --> 00:57:14,172 Speaker 14: on former Green MP Golries Garman's appeal of her shoplifting 1260 00:57:14,253 --> 00:57:19,173 Speaker 14: conviction being on the record. Atigo Corrections Facility is doing 1261 00:57:19,253 --> 00:57:23,213 Speaker 14: daily checks on tension in its high security unit after 1262 00:57:23,253 --> 00:57:27,053 Speaker 14: three staff were allegedly attacked last week. Additional staff were 1263 00:57:27,053 --> 00:57:31,613 Speaker 14: in the unit until today. Four Israeli soldiers have reportedly 1264 00:57:31,733 --> 00:57:34,693 Speaker 14: died after a drone attack on an army base and 1265 00:57:34,813 --> 00:57:39,573 Speaker 14: sixty injured. Hesbelo says its retaliation for two Israeli strikes 1266 00:57:39,613 --> 00:57:43,493 Speaker 14: on a bay route, killing twenty two. The Deputy Health 1267 00:57:43,493 --> 00:57:48,213 Speaker 14: and Disability Commissioners found clinicians didn't assess or adequately consider 1268 00:57:48,293 --> 00:57:51,373 Speaker 14: the cause of ulcers for a woman with type two 1269 00:57:51,413 --> 00:57:56,653 Speaker 14: diabetes who died from a bacterial infection. People shouldn't be 1270 00:57:56,653 --> 00:58:00,773 Speaker 14: swimming in Wellington Harbor with red e Coli risk warnings 1271 00:58:00,773 --> 00:58:05,053 Speaker 14: for most key areas after heavy rain. The Government's established 1272 00:58:05,053 --> 00:58:08,853 Speaker 14: a Forestry Industry Working Group to look into sector interaction 1273 00:58:08,933 --> 00:58:14,053 Speaker 14: with their missions trading scheme, including the registration tax. Alice 1274 00:58:14,053 --> 00:58:17,413 Speaker 14: Soper on why the black ferns fifteen axing is a 1275 00:58:17,413 --> 00:58:20,493 Speaker 14: missed opportunity ahead of the Rugby World Cup. You can 1276 00:58:20,533 --> 00:58:23,013 Speaker 14: read the full column that ends at Herald Premium. Now 1277 00:58:23,093 --> 00:58:24,853 Speaker 14: back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams. 1278 00:58:24,893 --> 00:58:27,093 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan, and we are talking about 1279 00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:31,613 Speaker 3: the hotter Fenua District Council. They stopped urban burm mowing 1280 00:58:32,013 --> 00:58:34,573 Speaker 3: on the in July rather as a way to save 1281 00:58:34,613 --> 00:58:37,013 Speaker 3: costs as part of its long term plan. It said 1282 00:58:37,053 --> 00:58:41,853 Speaker 3: feedback has been largely positive, but that there has been 1283 00:58:41,973 --> 00:58:44,733 Speaker 3: a groundswell of Facebook comments suggesting it was the wrong 1284 00:58:44,853 --> 00:58:47,893 Speaker 3: decision and we talked about John Murphy. He's a living local. 1285 00:58:48,013 --> 00:58:50,653 Speaker 3: He is among many who say they will now not 1286 00:58:50,853 --> 00:58:53,413 Speaker 3: mow their burms, and it is a controversial chat up 1287 00:58:53,493 --> 00:58:57,013 Speaker 3: and down New Zealand. Whose responsibility is it to mow 1288 00:58:57,053 --> 00:58:59,773 Speaker 3: the burms? And christ Church, I don't think the council 1289 00:58:59,893 --> 00:59:02,373 Speaker 3: ever mowed the burms. It was always the responsibility of 1290 00:59:02,413 --> 00:59:04,933 Speaker 3: the homeowner and if they didn't do it, nothing would 1291 00:59:04,933 --> 00:59:08,853 Speaker 3: happen to them, apart from a bit of hair prescia 1292 00:59:08,893 --> 00:59:10,293 Speaker 3: from local neighbors to get it sorted. 1293 00:59:10,573 --> 00:59:14,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Auckland, the berms were mine for a 1294 00:59:14,013 --> 00:59:16,253 Speaker 2: long time and then they weren't anymore. And I planted 1295 00:59:16,293 --> 00:59:21,173 Speaker 2: a Berhuda kawa on my berm unsanctioned her kawa and Mary, 1296 00:59:21,213 --> 00:59:22,973 Speaker 2: you've got some thoughts on the perhootes. 1297 00:59:25,093 --> 00:59:28,653 Speaker 24: So my voice was funny today. Look, I had a 1298 00:59:28,693 --> 00:59:31,053 Speaker 24: little laughed myself because it reminded me of a story 1299 00:59:31,053 --> 00:59:33,893 Speaker 24: that I heard years ago, and it was an American 1300 00:59:34,013 --> 00:59:35,973 Speaker 24: lady that's obviously lived in New Zealand and loved the 1301 00:59:35,973 --> 00:59:38,453 Speaker 24: food of carbo trees so much she took some seeds 1302 00:59:38,493 --> 00:59:41,093 Speaker 24: back to San Francisco and she planted them all the 1303 00:59:41,093 --> 00:59:45,333 Speaker 24: way down the street and Anyway, as they matured, the 1304 00:59:45,373 --> 00:59:49,893 Speaker 24: flowers started to drop, you know, pens into the into 1305 00:59:49,933 --> 00:59:52,813 Speaker 24: the drains, and the council in San Francisco, she sued her. 1306 00:59:53,373 --> 00:59:54,933 Speaker 24: There was a huge amount of money and it was 1307 00:59:55,053 --> 00:59:56,533 Speaker 24: it was I think it was the hair old years ago, 1308 00:59:56,653 --> 00:59:58,853 Speaker 24: but it was a true story. And so she was, 1309 00:59:58,933 --> 01:00:01,293 Speaker 24: you know, she was sued for all the blockaging of 1310 01:00:01,333 --> 01:00:03,053 Speaker 24: the drains in San Francisco. So I'm not so sure 1311 01:00:03,053 --> 01:00:04,853 Speaker 24: if the street has still got food of carbo trees. 1312 01:00:05,253 --> 01:00:07,973 Speaker 24: It was in the heart of San Francisco anyway, that's right. 1313 01:00:07,973 --> 01:00:10,973 Speaker 3: Johnny apple Seed just going along dropping bahooda car with seeds. 1314 01:00:10,973 --> 01:00:12,093 Speaker 3: It's fantasy, yes, And of. 1315 01:00:12,013 --> 01:00:14,573 Speaker 24: Course Americans and of course is sewing for the council 1316 01:00:14,693 --> 01:00:17,733 Speaker 24: suit her for all the blockage because she planted. 1317 01:00:17,453 --> 01:00:18,253 Speaker 25: Them in the first place. 1318 01:00:18,453 --> 01:00:19,573 Speaker 24: Reminder of New Zealand. 1319 01:00:20,173 --> 01:00:22,253 Speaker 3: So, knowing what you know about the you know, the 1320 01:00:22,453 --> 01:00:25,093 Speaker 3: the damage and carnage that Bouda car has caused in 1321 01:00:25,253 --> 01:00:27,733 Speaker 3: San Francisco, how do you feel about Matt Heath planting 1322 01:00:27,773 --> 01:00:29,893 Speaker 3: a hootacaway outside his place on the boom. 1323 01:00:30,933 --> 01:00:33,053 Speaker 24: I think good on him, and I think every household 1324 01:00:33,053 --> 01:00:35,053 Speaker 24: should actually have a vegetable garden or fruit trees. But 1325 01:00:35,133 --> 01:00:37,173 Speaker 24: I used to go to San Francisco and I was 1326 01:00:37,253 --> 01:00:39,493 Speaker 24: done in San Jose. The amount of fruit trees were 1327 01:00:39,533 --> 01:00:43,453 Speaker 24: planted were incredible. You'd walk along get fresh beaches and apples, 1328 01:00:43,453 --> 01:00:45,493 Speaker 24: and I think, you know, it's living off the land. 1329 01:00:45,533 --> 01:00:47,693 Speaker 24: So I think every healthhold did have a fruit tree outside. 1330 01:00:47,853 --> 01:00:49,493 Speaker 2: How good would that be? Would just skip around the 1331 01:00:49,493 --> 01:00:52,333 Speaker 2: neighborhood with a little basket. You grab some fajoas, you 1332 01:00:52,413 --> 01:00:56,613 Speaker 2: grab some apples, you grab some bananas, then you rip 1333 01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:58,933 Speaker 2: out a potato and head home for dinner. 1334 01:00:58,973 --> 01:01:01,773 Speaker 3: You even dig up the booms for the potatoes. Yeah, well, 1335 01:01:01,853 --> 01:01:04,573 Speaker 3: funny that you guys mentioned that, because obviously christ Jute 1336 01:01:04,573 --> 01:01:07,093 Speaker 3: after the earthquakes, there was a big chunk of land 1337 01:01:07,373 --> 01:01:10,253 Speaker 3: that was declared the red zone. Right, this was former 1338 01:01:10,293 --> 01:01:14,733 Speaker 3: residential area. Now you can go and just go nuts 1339 01:01:14,813 --> 01:01:17,293 Speaker 3: on people's former fruit trees that have now been They 1340 01:01:17,373 --> 01:01:19,413 Speaker 3: kind of abandoned the land and its land for anybody. 1341 01:01:19,493 --> 01:01:19,613 Speaker 7: Now. 1342 01:01:19,933 --> 01:01:23,173 Speaker 3: Fantastic apples, peaches, golden peaches I found. 1343 01:01:23,453 --> 01:01:25,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote an article for the Herald in this, 1344 01:01:25,373 --> 01:01:28,573 Speaker 2: But I think there's a feeling that there would be 1345 01:01:28,893 --> 01:01:31,693 Speaker 2: a lot of rodents running around if you're feeding them 1346 01:01:31,733 --> 01:01:34,253 Speaker 2: with the fruit. I think that's the only argument against 1347 01:01:34,293 --> 01:01:36,533 Speaker 2: running endless fruit trees on your booms. 1348 01:01:37,013 --> 01:01:39,173 Speaker 3: Brian, what's your feeling about the booms. 1349 01:01:40,573 --> 01:01:43,373 Speaker 26: Well, I'm on holiday here from Melbourne, just listening to 1350 01:01:43,453 --> 01:01:46,053 Speaker 26: you guys for the last hour or so. Thank you 1351 01:01:46,133 --> 01:01:49,973 Speaker 26: for that, Ryan, I don't know where where you got 1352 01:01:50,013 --> 01:01:53,013 Speaker 26: the inside someone who must have rung in and said, well, yeah, 1353 01:01:53,053 --> 01:01:57,533 Speaker 26: the councils of Melbourne don't lawn them. I mode them rather, 1354 01:01:57,653 --> 01:01:58,933 Speaker 26: but they don't. 1355 01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:02,573 Speaker 3: Right, And that's always been the cases of Brann. Melbourne 1356 01:02:02,733 --> 01:02:05,213 Speaker 3: councils have never mowed the booms or the verges of 1357 01:02:05,213 --> 01:02:06,213 Speaker 3: the natures them. 1358 01:02:06,493 --> 01:02:09,973 Speaker 26: And they've never mowed them as far as I've been there, 1359 01:02:10,013 --> 01:02:13,933 Speaker 26: as long as I've been there, and they you can't 1360 01:02:14,013 --> 01:02:17,933 Speaker 26: put up a tree in there on the nature strip 1361 01:02:18,013 --> 01:02:21,613 Speaker 26: without them having the yes or no because they don't 1362 01:02:21,773 --> 01:02:23,213 Speaker 26: like it if you put the wrong tree out. 1363 01:02:23,613 --> 01:02:25,853 Speaker 2: Well that's interesting, Brian. One thing, we might have got 1364 01:02:25,893 --> 01:02:27,853 Speaker 2: that wrong, but we did get it right when we 1365 01:02:27,933 --> 01:02:30,533 Speaker 2: said that. In Australia you refer to what we call 1366 01:02:30,653 --> 01:02:33,053 Speaker 2: birms or verges nature strips, so we got that one right. 1367 01:02:33,333 --> 01:02:36,573 Speaker 4: The nature strip, yeah, and it is the nature strip. 1368 01:02:36,453 --> 01:02:40,533 Speaker 2: So that that's that is, that's akin to our booms. 1369 01:02:40,573 --> 01:02:42,453 Speaker 2: Does a nature strip to grow anything else over there? 1370 01:02:44,293 --> 01:02:46,733 Speaker 26: No, that's it. I was trying to figure out what 1371 01:02:46,813 --> 01:02:50,493 Speaker 26: a burn was until you mentioned it was one of 1372 01:02:50,533 --> 01:02:55,333 Speaker 26: our nature strip. Why to have a lot of saying 1373 01:02:55,453 --> 01:02:57,053 Speaker 26: what we do with the nature strip? 1374 01:02:57,733 --> 01:02:59,613 Speaker 3: And how did the good people in Melbourne feel about that? 1375 01:02:59,733 --> 01:03:01,893 Speaker 3: Do you want more ownership of your nature strip? 1376 01:03:04,453 --> 01:03:06,413 Speaker 26: I'd like to put the trees in it that I like. 1377 01:03:06,613 --> 01:03:09,733 Speaker 3: Yes, sort of trees are we talking about here? 1378 01:03:11,413 --> 01:03:13,493 Speaker 26: I don't know what sort of trees are planting or 1379 01:03:13,493 --> 01:03:15,333 Speaker 26: I don't know what they're called. But they've got a 1380 01:03:15,413 --> 01:03:18,213 Speaker 26: lot of little berries on and they drop in the 1381 01:03:18,653 --> 01:03:23,133 Speaker 26: whenever they drop the season and everything on the it's 1382 01:03:23,173 --> 01:03:25,773 Speaker 26: always on the on the road or in the gutter, 1383 01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:28,333 Speaker 26: and it's just going down the waste water. 1384 01:03:29,213 --> 01:03:31,693 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your your call. The 1385 01:03:32,053 --> 01:03:34,573 Speaker 2: Brian nature strip for me invokes something else. I think 1386 01:03:34,573 --> 01:03:36,093 Speaker 2: the Australians have got it wrong. They're calling it a 1387 01:03:36,173 --> 01:03:38,693 Speaker 2: nature strip. It's taking my mind somewhere else. 1388 01:03:39,013 --> 01:03:41,733 Speaker 3: Tell me more, where is that mine? If yours going, 1389 01:03:41,893 --> 01:03:43,013 Speaker 3: I can see what they're doing there. 1390 01:03:43,053 --> 01:03:44,173 Speaker 2: You know, beautiful nature. 1391 01:03:44,413 --> 01:03:45,413 Speaker 3: There's a nice strip. 1392 01:03:47,573 --> 01:03:49,333 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of nature there there's generally just 1393 01:03:49,693 --> 01:03:51,333 Speaker 2: by the sounds of things from Brian, there's not so 1394 01:03:51,413 --> 01:03:56,693 Speaker 2: much nature and more just some grass that's been mowing. 1395 01:03:57,373 --> 01:04:01,013 Speaker 3: The sticks to see is I love a tidy boom, 1396 01:04:01,253 --> 01:04:04,533 Speaker 3: even spray mine for prickles and weeds. Our streeters too 1397 01:04:04,613 --> 01:04:06,653 Speaker 3: came along and mine must be the only one with 1398 01:04:06,813 --> 01:04:08,933 Speaker 3: no prickles. That is a man was proud of his 1399 01:04:08,973 --> 01:04:10,093 Speaker 3: neighborhood and his own burm. 1400 01:04:10,333 --> 01:04:12,013 Speaker 2: We need to get rid of thistles and prickles. They're 1401 01:04:12,053 --> 01:04:15,093 Speaker 2: an absolute disaster and they do no good in the community. 1402 01:04:15,293 --> 01:04:17,133 Speaker 2: How do you feel, though that this is moving slightly 1403 01:04:17,213 --> 01:04:20,773 Speaker 2: out of the era of area of burms And I'd 1404 01:04:20,813 --> 01:04:24,693 Speaker 2: love to have people's thoughts on this. What about putting 1405 01:04:24,733 --> 01:04:26,813 Speaker 2: succulents in your little traffic island thing. 1406 01:04:28,333 --> 01:04:32,613 Speaker 3: Well, that's up to whoever's closest to the traffic island. 1407 01:04:32,333 --> 01:04:34,253 Speaker 2: Because I love when I go past and I see 1408 01:04:34,293 --> 01:04:36,373 Speaker 2: someone has made the effort and they've made a little 1409 01:04:36,373 --> 01:04:39,333 Speaker 2: sort of journey a little garden. In this one, we're 1410 01:04:39,453 --> 01:04:43,453 Speaker 2: near my house, that's beside a speed bump, and someone's 1411 01:04:43,453 --> 01:04:47,333 Speaker 2: gone to the effort of putting succulents in there. It looks, 1412 01:04:47,413 --> 01:04:49,133 Speaker 2: it looks beautiful. It looks really cool. But then the 1413 01:04:49,213 --> 01:04:53,533 Speaker 2: council came through and terraformed and put nothing there in return. 1414 01:04:53,613 --> 01:04:54,853 Speaker 2: So now it's just got a little bit of dirt 1415 01:04:54,933 --> 01:04:56,853 Speaker 2: in there. And I was like, well, what's the problem 1416 01:04:57,293 --> 01:04:59,053 Speaker 2: that the succulents were better than nothing? 1417 01:04:59,213 --> 01:05:00,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's disappointing. 1418 01:05:00,413 --> 01:05:01,813 Speaker 2: And someone it made a little it was a beautiful 1419 01:05:01,813 --> 01:05:03,933 Speaker 2: little rock garden. Hasn't there? But it wasn't there. 1420 01:05:03,973 --> 01:05:05,733 Speaker 3: A story a couple of weeks ago about a guy 1421 01:05:05,813 --> 01:05:07,973 Speaker 3: in christ Jewish and this was a traffic island and 1422 01:05:07,973 --> 01:05:10,853 Speaker 3: around about, and I'm pretty sure he was jumping in 1423 01:05:10,933 --> 01:05:13,573 Speaker 3: the middle to tend to this little garden he'd created. 1424 01:05:13,853 --> 01:05:15,893 Speaker 3: And the council turned around and said, when that's not 1425 01:05:16,053 --> 01:05:18,973 Speaker 3: health and safety, we're going to get traffic management in there. 1426 01:05:19,653 --> 01:05:22,453 Speaker 3: So just let the guy look after his garden that 1427 01:05:22,493 --> 01:05:23,053 Speaker 3: he's created. 1428 01:05:23,133 --> 01:05:24,933 Speaker 2: Can the guy across the road, can you do you 1429 01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:28,053 Speaker 2: trust a citizen across the road, then you trust a 1430 01:05:28,093 --> 01:05:30,773 Speaker 2: citizen across the road with a succulent and a trout? 1431 01:05:31,293 --> 01:05:35,013 Speaker 3: Exactly oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty keen to hear 1432 01:05:35,093 --> 01:05:38,373 Speaker 3: from you about whom mows your booms, and if it 1433 01:05:38,533 --> 01:05:40,693 Speaker 3: is you, should you get ownership of that also a 1434 01:05:40,693 --> 01:05:42,653 Speaker 3: lot of people talking about parking on the booms, and 1435 01:05:42,893 --> 01:05:44,933 Speaker 3: you said before that if you look after the booms, 1436 01:05:45,093 --> 01:05:47,573 Speaker 3: you should have some sort of ownership of there. Clearly 1437 01:05:47,613 --> 01:05:49,493 Speaker 3: it's not your land, but you should be able to 1438 01:05:49,533 --> 01:05:51,933 Speaker 3: do what you want with it. Does that include parking 1439 01:05:51,973 --> 01:05:52,253 Speaker 3: your car? 1440 01:05:52,733 --> 01:05:55,733 Speaker 2: No, I think that's that's anarchy. I understand on a 1441 01:05:55,773 --> 01:05:57,533 Speaker 2: narrow street, if you're just going to have one wheel 1442 01:05:57,613 --> 01:05:59,653 Speaker 2: up on the boom to make it easier for people 1443 01:05:59,653 --> 01:06:03,493 Speaker 2: to get past, that's just being considerate. But there's saying 1444 01:06:03,613 --> 01:06:07,933 Speaker 2: something very wrong. Second disgusting when I see cars parked 1445 01:06:07,973 --> 01:06:10,813 Speaker 2: on Burn it seems like anarchy to me. That seems 1446 01:06:10,853 --> 01:06:12,853 Speaker 2: just one step too fast, especially when they start having 1447 01:06:12,893 --> 01:06:14,013 Speaker 2: the tire tracks on the berm. 1448 01:06:14,213 --> 01:06:15,893 Speaker 3: That's the breakdown of society at that point. 1449 01:06:16,013 --> 01:06:18,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it just leads to cars being 1450 01:06:18,693 --> 01:06:21,093 Speaker 2: abandoned in places. Next thing, you got shopping trolleys there 1451 01:06:21,133 --> 01:06:23,093 Speaker 2: and there as well, and everything just falls to pieces. 1452 01:06:23,213 --> 01:06:25,533 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 1453 01:06:25,533 --> 01:06:27,493 Speaker 3: to call. It is nineteen to three. 1454 01:06:28,413 --> 01:06:32,333 Speaker 1: Walk You're new home of afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor 1455 01:06:32,373 --> 01:06:35,573 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 1456 01:06:35,773 --> 01:06:36,533 Speaker 1: News Talk. 1457 01:06:36,413 --> 01:06:39,973 Speaker 3: ZB News Talks B. It's a quarter to three. 1458 01:06:40,213 --> 01:06:42,133 Speaker 2: We've been talking about burms and who locks after them 1459 01:06:42,173 --> 01:06:43,893 Speaker 2: and who should look after them and who has ownership 1460 01:06:43,933 --> 01:06:47,453 Speaker 2: of them, but it's actually descended into basically an argument 1461 01:06:47,573 --> 01:06:51,293 Speaker 2: three camps really, the Berm, the Verge and the Australians 1462 01:06:51,293 --> 01:06:53,453 Speaker 2: coming in with a nature strip, which makes me feel 1463 01:06:53,573 --> 01:06:56,053 Speaker 2: the word nature strip makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable. Actually, 1464 01:06:56,053 --> 01:06:57,573 Speaker 2: maybe it makes me feel a little bit excited. But 1465 01:06:58,253 --> 01:07:02,573 Speaker 2: another word has joined the chat swale swale people are 1466 01:07:02,613 --> 01:07:04,373 Speaker 2: coming through and some people call them a swale. 1467 01:07:04,613 --> 01:07:06,173 Speaker 3: Spell that out, so. 1468 01:07:06,253 --> 01:07:09,653 Speaker 2: There's two spellings of it. Is wai l or in 1469 01:07:09,773 --> 01:07:14,533 Speaker 2: America is w a l e. And as far as 1470 01:07:14,613 --> 01:07:18,533 Speaker 2: I can tell, that's a wit hollow or a boggie depress. 1471 01:07:18,773 --> 01:07:20,453 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a burm I want to be 1472 01:07:20,493 --> 01:07:20,813 Speaker 3: a part of. 1473 01:07:20,973 --> 01:07:22,653 Speaker 2: But you're but your boom might be a wit hollow 1474 01:07:22,773 --> 01:07:23,333 Speaker 2: or or. 1475 01:07:24,933 --> 01:07:27,253 Speaker 3: I think we should adopped nature strip. To be honest, 1476 01:07:27,293 --> 01:07:28,413 Speaker 3: I really like nature strip. 1477 01:07:29,213 --> 01:07:32,413 Speaker 2: Who looks after your wit hollow? That's the question. Hey, Helen, 1478 01:07:32,813 --> 01:07:34,493 Speaker 2: you've got some thoughts on the pookawa. 1479 01:07:35,573 --> 01:07:35,733 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1480 01:07:35,773 --> 01:07:38,733 Speaker 21: Look, I must say I really like trees and there 1481 01:07:38,733 --> 01:07:43,173 Speaker 21: around enough of them, But I'm wit concerned about with 1482 01:07:43,253 --> 01:07:46,133 Speaker 21: this tendency for them to lift footpaths. How are you 1483 01:07:46,173 --> 01:07:49,373 Speaker 21: going to feel when elderly or otherwise to say, what 1484 01:07:49,533 --> 01:07:53,333 Speaker 21: person comes along and breaks their hip on this, on 1485 01:07:53,453 --> 01:08:00,733 Speaker 21: this this that's come up? Is it too late to 1486 01:08:00,853 --> 01:08:03,693 Speaker 21: move this tree? Or can you dig a drench and 1487 01:08:03,853 --> 01:08:06,333 Speaker 21: cut off the roots on that side so that it 1488 01:08:06,493 --> 01:08:08,013 Speaker 21: doesn't lift this pavement up? 1489 01:08:08,373 --> 01:08:12,053 Speaker 2: She's actually well, I lethal well, Helen, when that happens, 1490 01:08:12,053 --> 01:08:13,933 Speaker 2: I feel terrible. But right now I can tell you 1491 01:08:14,013 --> 01:08:16,213 Speaker 2: that the pavement is as flat as a pancake. It's 1492 01:08:16,293 --> 01:08:18,853 Speaker 2: smooth writing. For the people in my neighborhood. They love 1493 01:08:18,933 --> 01:08:22,612 Speaker 2: it and they love the joy that the podka brings 1494 01:08:23,372 --> 01:08:25,213 Speaker 2: when it comes out. It's New Zealand's Christmas Tree, isn't it? 1495 01:08:25,412 --> 01:08:25,572 Speaker 25: Really? 1496 01:08:25,933 --> 01:08:27,612 Speaker 2: Yeah? They love the joy it's bring at the moment 1497 01:08:27,933 --> 01:08:30,532 Speaker 2: in the shade that it brings to our streak. 1498 01:08:30,692 --> 01:08:33,692 Speaker 3: The cost benefit ratio is woroped in your favorite this stage. 1499 01:08:33,812 --> 01:08:36,333 Speaker 3: But the joy that it brings versus the cracks and 1500 01:08:36,412 --> 01:08:36,892 Speaker 3: the pavement. 1501 01:08:37,293 --> 01:08:39,012 Speaker 2: I promise you, Helen, if I ever see it turning 1502 01:08:39,053 --> 01:08:41,173 Speaker 2: into a risk, they'll do something about it. That's that's 1503 01:08:41,213 --> 01:08:42,253 Speaker 2: my iron clad promise. 1504 01:08:42,293 --> 01:08:42,412 Speaker 19: To you. 1505 01:08:43,492 --> 01:08:44,372 Speaker 21: It might be too late. 1506 01:08:44,933 --> 01:08:45,772 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be too late. 1507 01:08:46,893 --> 01:08:49,173 Speaker 21: Who wants to break their hip over a tree? It's 1508 01:08:49,213 --> 01:08:51,612 Speaker 21: the wrong if ever does, it's a pavement. 1509 01:08:51,692 --> 01:08:53,173 Speaker 2: I'll tell you who. I tell you, I tell you 1510 01:08:53,173 --> 01:08:54,692 Speaker 2: who wants Who wants to bring that? 1511 01:08:54,812 --> 01:08:55,013 Speaker 4: No one? 1512 01:08:55,093 --> 01:08:56,293 Speaker 2: No one wants to break their hip on that. 1513 01:08:56,492 --> 01:08:57,133 Speaker 3: That's an easy one. 1514 01:08:57,213 --> 01:08:58,412 Speaker 2: That's an easy one I can give you. 1515 01:08:59,253 --> 01:09:01,852 Speaker 21: No one does I know to you to do something 1516 01:09:01,933 --> 01:09:03,612 Speaker 21: before that an accident happens. 1517 01:09:03,652 --> 01:09:06,692 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, I promise you absolutely one 1518 01:09:06,772 --> 01:09:07,333 Speaker 2: hundred promises. 1519 01:09:07,372 --> 01:09:08,732 Speaker 3: I'll keep them honest that one. 1520 01:09:08,973 --> 01:09:11,412 Speaker 2: Then I'll promise I'll keep it flat. 1521 01:09:11,612 --> 01:09:14,572 Speaker 3: You've heard it here first, folks, ken what do you think? 1522 01:09:16,253 --> 01:09:18,013 Speaker 19: Look, I've got a corner sight, and so I've got 1523 01:09:18,013 --> 01:09:21,652 Speaker 19: a fifteen meter boundary north facing on one and that's 1524 01:09:22,133 --> 01:09:25,093 Speaker 19: got the road, then the grass berm in the foot 1525 01:09:25,173 --> 01:09:32,972 Speaker 19: path and on the short boundary, which is least twenty 1526 01:09:33,053 --> 01:09:35,253 Speaker 19: five minutes on the long and fifteen a cast or 1527 01:09:35,293 --> 01:09:38,173 Speaker 19: whatever it is, and that's got the footpath and then 1528 01:09:38,213 --> 01:09:40,892 Speaker 19: the boom, and they both north facing. And I wanted 1529 01:09:40,933 --> 01:09:45,253 Speaker 19: to dig up all the grass heart plant potatoes and 1530 01:09:45,333 --> 01:09:48,452 Speaker 19: give them away, and the council let me so. 1531 01:09:48,492 --> 01:09:52,253 Speaker 2: Whyly you do that? That seems like a great usage. 1532 01:09:52,692 --> 01:09:57,932 Speaker 2: What is a massive bom slash nature strip slash bird? 1533 01:09:58,333 --> 01:09:59,333 Speaker 2: Possibly not a swale? 1534 01:09:59,532 --> 01:10:01,812 Speaker 3: Is that the double boom almost whale? 1535 01:10:02,492 --> 01:10:05,173 Speaker 19: The swale is a drain? It differently not a drain? 1536 01:10:05,692 --> 01:10:07,812 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and so and so did you attempt to 1537 01:10:08,093 --> 01:10:10,973 Speaker 2: plan the potatoes or did you ask permission first and 1538 01:10:11,053 --> 01:10:12,412 Speaker 2: they and they shut you down. 1539 01:10:14,853 --> 01:10:18,812 Speaker 3: You see, that's never ask for forgiveness after you've done 1540 01:10:18,812 --> 01:10:19,812 Speaker 3: it and planted the potatoes. 1541 01:10:19,853 --> 01:10:22,612 Speaker 2: It's only a truly evil person would come along and 1542 01:10:23,093 --> 01:10:25,732 Speaker 2: terror form your potato patch if you're giving them out 1543 01:10:25,772 --> 01:10:26,333 Speaker 2: to the community. 1544 01:10:26,893 --> 01:10:28,812 Speaker 3: And if a contractor came along and then you offer 1545 01:10:28,853 --> 01:10:30,492 Speaker 3: them a bag of spuds to say, hey, can you 1546 01:10:30,572 --> 01:10:32,532 Speaker 3: just keep this quick, keep this between us? 1547 01:10:32,652 --> 01:10:33,612 Speaker 2: Some spud Paola. 1548 01:10:36,013 --> 01:10:38,612 Speaker 19: There's a tree and to plant a fruit tree in 1549 01:10:38,692 --> 01:10:40,213 Speaker 19: its place, and they wouldn't let me do that either, 1550 01:10:40,293 --> 01:10:42,133 Speaker 19: so I thought, oh, let's just plant a plumb tree 1551 01:10:42,253 --> 01:10:45,933 Speaker 19: or something whatever. So when the kids, because it's on 1552 01:10:46,013 --> 01:10:48,172 Speaker 19: the walking school bus, yeah yeah, well. 1553 01:10:48,133 --> 01:10:52,412 Speaker 2: You know likes it can help themselves burn that big 1554 01:10:52,572 --> 01:10:54,412 Speaker 2: You could have You could have been running a whole orchard. 1555 01:10:54,812 --> 01:10:57,532 Speaker 2: What about some strawberries? No one would Nichol and dime. 1556 01:10:57,412 --> 01:11:00,852 Speaker 19: You for that's why potatoes are so good in the ground. 1557 01:11:01,093 --> 01:11:03,732 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not going to get so easy. 1558 01:11:03,853 --> 01:11:07,333 Speaker 3: It's not unsightly, looks easy. Yeah, thank you very much. 1559 01:11:07,412 --> 01:11:09,372 Speaker 3: Ken that is disappointed, and his king sounded like a 1560 01:11:09,452 --> 01:11:12,412 Speaker 3: good community leader just wanted to feed his neighbors some 1561 01:11:12,612 --> 01:11:13,453 Speaker 3: nice potatoes. 1562 01:11:13,772 --> 01:11:17,932 Speaker 2: If we if we used our berms productively, we could 1563 01:11:18,013 --> 01:11:20,173 Speaker 2: just have kids walking to school. As I said before, 1564 01:11:20,213 --> 01:11:22,532 Speaker 2: they're just grabbing an apple here, there's a there's a 1565 01:11:22,572 --> 01:11:26,093 Speaker 2: banana there, there's a pajoa there. Then they're they're working 1566 01:11:26,213 --> 01:11:28,452 Speaker 2: walking past Ken, they're grabbing a potato. 1567 01:11:30,013 --> 01:11:33,372 Speaker 3: It's a potato in the walk to school. That's that's 1568 01:11:33,692 --> 01:11:34,532 Speaker 3: that's the stuff on. 1569 01:11:34,612 --> 01:11:38,213 Speaker 2: The foot there, potato up. Maybe not the potato wouldn't work, 1570 01:11:38,612 --> 01:11:40,812 Speaker 2: but it paints a pretty picture, doesn't it. Just people 1571 01:11:40,853 --> 01:11:43,413 Speaker 2: walking to school and grabbing some fruit. But I understand 1572 01:11:43,893 --> 01:11:48,012 Speaker 2: every rat would have it. We'd have an absolute plague 1573 01:11:48,013 --> 01:11:49,653 Speaker 2: of rats and have to get a pied piper. 1574 01:11:49,452 --> 01:11:51,852 Speaker 3: In Well, what's your take on the burms. 1575 01:11:52,853 --> 01:11:55,732 Speaker 8: Yeah, so we've got sort of like your leadter box 1576 01:11:55,812 --> 01:11:57,812 Speaker 8: and you've got your grass boom. Then you've got the 1577 01:11:57,853 --> 01:12:01,492 Speaker 8: footpath in the grass verge. Well, we live on top 1578 01:12:01,492 --> 01:12:03,852 Speaker 8: of a bit of a rise and then this lady 1579 01:12:03,933 --> 01:12:06,932 Speaker 8: decides to come and park a huge, big women bus 1580 01:12:07,492 --> 01:12:09,813 Speaker 8: right up outside on our grass. 1581 01:12:09,772 --> 01:12:10,532 Speaker 3: Verge straight away. 1582 01:12:10,572 --> 01:12:15,132 Speaker 8: You can't put it, yeah, So so we rung the council. 1583 01:12:16,093 --> 01:12:19,093 Speaker 8: They came out and they basically told us, nah, there's 1584 01:12:19,133 --> 01:12:21,173 Speaker 8: nothing we can do as long as the tires aren't 1585 01:12:21,293 --> 01:12:24,333 Speaker 8: on the footpath. She's got a registration I warrant, but 1586 01:12:24,532 --> 01:12:26,532 Speaker 8: she lives five hourses down there and she doesn't want 1587 01:12:26,532 --> 01:12:28,692 Speaker 8: to park it. She came up and we had to 1588 01:12:28,772 --> 01:12:31,452 Speaker 8: go with her. So then my neighbor he came out. 1589 01:12:31,812 --> 01:12:34,532 Speaker 8: He rung the council, he came. We had four council 1590 01:12:34,572 --> 01:12:37,213 Speaker 8: people out there all day checking it all out and 1591 01:12:37,333 --> 01:12:38,812 Speaker 8: there was nothing we could do, but we kept the 1592 01:12:38,853 --> 01:12:39,452 Speaker 8: council busy. 1593 01:12:40,612 --> 01:12:44,092 Speaker 2: That is that is egregious, And so I didn't actually 1594 01:12:44,093 --> 01:12:45,652 Speaker 2: know that because in my name of these people that 1595 01:12:45,692 --> 01:12:48,772 Speaker 2: are parking cars on berms, so does the council. You know, 1596 01:12:48,812 --> 01:12:50,412 Speaker 2: they'll nickel and dime you because you're trying to put 1597 01:12:50,412 --> 01:12:52,932 Speaker 2: a potato in your berm, but they don't think they're 1598 01:12:52,973 --> 01:12:57,133 Speaker 2: jurisdiction in there, and they're incredibly officious about parking, But 1599 01:12:57,732 --> 01:13:00,333 Speaker 2: on a berm it's suddenly out some kind of Ecuadorian 1600 01:13:01,133 --> 01:13:03,852 Speaker 2: you know, embassy, and you can do whatever you want. 1601 01:13:03,893 --> 01:13:05,932 Speaker 3: On a boom house bus, no problem apparently. 1602 01:13:06,293 --> 01:13:09,932 Speaker 8: So from from the road to the footpath that grass 1603 01:13:09,973 --> 01:13:12,532 Speaker 8: peace along the air, anyone can park on there as 1604 01:13:12,572 --> 01:13:15,692 Speaker 8: long as the tires don't touch the concrete. As they 1605 01:13:15,812 --> 01:13:18,492 Speaker 8: touched the concrete, you can get it towed because it's 1606 01:13:18,572 --> 01:13:21,093 Speaker 8: now classes on a footpath. 1607 01:13:21,372 --> 01:13:24,532 Speaker 3: As well as this Just sorry, is this an Auckland yep? 1608 01:13:24,812 --> 01:13:27,172 Speaker 8: Yep. Well, I would say, I don't know about anywhere 1609 01:13:27,213 --> 01:13:29,933 Speaker 8: else around. I don't know anywhere else around the company on. 1610 01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:32,093 Speaker 2: This explains a lot to me why there's so many 1611 01:13:32,093 --> 01:13:34,572 Speaker 2: people parking on burms in my area and not getting towed. 1612 01:13:34,612 --> 01:13:36,772 Speaker 2: When people get towed for absolutely nothing in the area, 1613 01:13:36,933 --> 01:13:38,572 Speaker 2: I would say, if you're having in your auckland, you're 1614 01:13:38,612 --> 01:13:40,412 Speaker 2: having to tend to that boom, you're having to mow it, 1615 01:13:40,692 --> 01:13:42,133 Speaker 2: then I think it would be in your rights to 1616 01:13:42,213 --> 01:13:43,972 Speaker 2: maybe let those tires down on that bus. 1617 01:13:44,893 --> 01:13:47,732 Speaker 8: We've got people up the road and right along the 1618 01:13:47,893 --> 01:13:52,892 Speaker 8: fence line on the outside of the leaderbox side along 1619 01:13:52,973 --> 01:13:55,093 Speaker 8: the fence line, they've got a whole pole of silver 1620 01:13:55,173 --> 01:13:56,772 Speaker 8: beat grown, whether sign up, help yourself? 1621 01:13:57,612 --> 01:14:01,932 Speaker 3: Good neighbors, good neighbors. So she put that above potatoes eat. 1622 01:14:01,973 --> 01:14:03,093 Speaker 3: She love a bit of silver beat. 1623 01:14:03,372 --> 01:14:06,972 Speaker 2: But what are you doing with silver beat? I don't 1624 01:14:07,013 --> 01:14:09,452 Speaker 2: know wh what you do with silver bet? Because every 1625 01:14:09,492 --> 01:14:11,053 Speaker 2: time I go to a seer magacy, a silver beat 1626 01:14:11,772 --> 01:14:12,892 Speaker 2: was the silver beat going just. 1627 01:14:12,893 --> 01:14:15,692 Speaker 3: Looked like it was avaluable than potatoes. So that's why 1628 01:14:15,732 --> 01:14:18,092 Speaker 3: I like it, is that you know, I'm for pounds. 1629 01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:20,173 Speaker 3: Silver beat is more expensive than potatoes. So I'll take 1630 01:14:20,173 --> 01:14:20,652 Speaker 3: a little beat. 1631 01:14:20,692 --> 01:14:21,692 Speaker 2: I just want to know what you do with it? 1632 01:14:21,853 --> 01:14:22,372 Speaker 3: Steam it up? 1633 01:14:22,452 --> 01:14:24,012 Speaker 2: You steam it up? Steam it up? Do you steal 1634 01:14:24,053 --> 01:14:25,293 Speaker 2: it up? And I have a horrible little sort of 1635 01:14:25,372 --> 01:14:27,572 Speaker 2: steamed up little pile of silver beats in the middle 1636 01:14:27,572 --> 01:14:27,972 Speaker 2: of your plate. 1637 01:14:28,013 --> 01:14:29,772 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what was worse about that story, though, 1638 01:14:29,893 --> 01:14:32,452 Speaker 3: is the woman who owned the house bus lived five 1639 01:14:32,572 --> 01:14:35,412 Speaker 3: doors down for will, so sheer parked the bus not 1640 01:14:35,853 --> 01:14:38,973 Speaker 3: on her place, outside of Wells place. Yeah, I mean 1641 01:14:39,053 --> 01:14:39,772 Speaker 3: that's a bad neighbor. 1642 01:14:39,973 --> 01:14:42,012 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you were spoiling for a fight. 1643 01:14:42,293 --> 01:14:45,173 Speaker 2: I mean you're doing something like that. You're a brave person. 1644 01:14:45,412 --> 01:14:47,972 Speaker 3: It's very brave. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, 1645 01:14:48,133 --> 01:14:50,013 Speaker 3: will have time for a few more phone calls. It 1646 01:14:50,213 --> 01:14:51,132 Speaker 3: is eight to three. 1647 01:14:52,933 --> 01:14:55,293 Speaker 1: The Issues that affect you and a bit of fun 1648 01:14:55,372 --> 01:14:58,772 Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams. Afternoons you 1649 01:14:58,973 --> 01:14:59,652 Speaker 1: for twenty. 1650 01:14:59,492 --> 01:15:03,213 Speaker 3: Twenty four you Talk News Talks B five to three. 1651 01:15:03,853 --> 01:15:05,612 Speaker 2: Rob back with the show. I understand you were in 1652 01:15:05,853 --> 01:15:09,452 Speaker 2: San Francisco and the afore are mentioned Perhodagate went down. 1653 01:15:10,812 --> 01:15:13,772 Speaker 5: I was we were doing a regett it in two 1654 01:15:13,893 --> 01:15:19,013 Speaker 5: thousand and eleven, and it was inside front page or 1655 01:15:19,093 --> 01:15:23,052 Speaker 5: third page, and it was quite a big story about 1656 01:15:23,253 --> 01:15:26,852 Speaker 5: the PERDA cars and how that absolutely decimated all the 1657 01:15:26,973 --> 01:15:30,692 Speaker 5: drains and it was costing millions to repair it. I 1658 01:15:30,973 --> 01:15:33,932 Speaker 5: got the impression it was a gift from a council, 1659 01:15:34,053 --> 01:15:36,092 Speaker 5: but maybe it was just a gift from a person 1660 01:15:36,612 --> 01:15:42,492 Speaker 5: planting the seeds. But I mean, as soon as I 1661 01:15:42,572 --> 01:15:44,653 Speaker 5: saw Perhodakaua on the paper. 1662 01:15:44,772 --> 01:15:46,333 Speaker 2: You got excited. You thought. 1663 01:15:48,973 --> 01:15:52,173 Speaker 5: Evil, evil trees. Beautiful trees, but evil, and thank god 1664 01:15:52,253 --> 01:15:55,052 Speaker 5: we don't get them down in the South Island because 1665 01:15:55,053 --> 01:15:55,692 Speaker 5: it's too cold. 1666 01:15:55,853 --> 01:15:58,572 Speaker 2: So do you think the trees in San Francisco did 1667 01:15:58,572 --> 01:16:02,973 Speaker 2: the pdical would grow even more voraciously than they do 1668 01:16:03,133 --> 01:16:04,572 Speaker 2: here in New Zealand. 1669 01:16:07,412 --> 01:16:09,852 Speaker 5: So the yes, I've just lost you as a seat there. 1670 01:16:10,133 --> 01:16:11,892 Speaker 2: I was saying, is it one of those situations when 1671 01:16:11,933 --> 01:16:13,973 Speaker 2: you take a tree from one country to another and 1672 01:16:14,572 --> 01:16:17,133 Speaker 2: it becomes more successful than it was where it's from, 1673 01:16:17,173 --> 01:16:19,852 Speaker 2: because this sounds like these perder cars were doing a 1674 01:16:19,973 --> 01:16:21,412 Speaker 2: whole lot of damage over there. 1675 01:16:22,893 --> 01:16:25,852 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, massive damage. Well it's a little bit like 1676 01:16:25,973 --> 01:16:28,932 Speaker 5: the bamboo here. My neighbor pulled out a whole load 1677 01:16:28,973 --> 01:16:31,133 Speaker 5: of bamboo next to our place, and we are really 1678 01:16:31,213 --> 01:16:36,452 Speaker 5: grateful he did because it just grows like wildfire. And 1679 01:16:36,572 --> 01:16:40,013 Speaker 5: it's the same with banana passion fruit. But look, I 1680 01:16:40,253 --> 01:16:44,492 Speaker 5: was in Berlin a couple of years later and driving 1681 01:16:44,572 --> 01:16:47,133 Speaker 5: the sailing team into Berlin and we're going in to 1682 01:16:47,173 --> 01:16:51,412 Speaker 5: having locker. I couldn't believe the berms as we got 1683 01:16:51,532 --> 01:16:54,293 Speaker 5: into the city. They were all about a meter high, 1684 01:16:54,973 --> 01:16:57,852 Speaker 5: and I asked one of the Germans, and the Germans 1685 01:16:57,893 --> 01:17:01,053 Speaker 5: said to me, oh, no, you're not allowed to mow 1686 01:17:01,133 --> 01:17:07,893 Speaker 5: the berms in the inner city. For nature, the insects 1687 01:17:07,973 --> 01:17:14,612 Speaker 5: grow and mature, and so no one's allowed to no 1688 01:17:14,692 --> 01:17:15,452 Speaker 5: one's allowed to know. 1689 01:17:15,853 --> 01:17:17,492 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, good story, Rob. 1690 01:17:17,572 --> 01:17:17,892 Speaker 2: Interesting. 1691 01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:20,612 Speaker 3: We must have paid off San Francisco some money to 1692 01:17:20,692 --> 01:17:22,692 Speaker 3: keep that quiet news coming up. 1693 01:17:24,492 --> 01:17:28,692 Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie 1694 01:17:29,013 --> 01:17:32,532 Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk zebby. 1695 01:17:33,973 --> 01:17:36,652 Speaker 3: Very very good afternoon to you. I hope you're having 1696 01:17:36,692 --> 01:17:40,252 Speaker 3: a great Monday wherever you're listening from. And great discussion 1697 01:17:40,253 --> 01:17:42,372 Speaker 3: about the burns last hour. We're going to change it. 1698 01:17:42,412 --> 01:17:47,093 Speaker 2: Up then, follages the nature strips Pertera car was at 1699 01:17:47,133 --> 01:17:49,293 Speaker 2: all someone who's even referring to them as a swale. 1700 01:17:49,333 --> 01:17:51,893 Speaker 2: But we're moving on from that, aren't we to etiquette. 1701 01:17:52,093 --> 01:17:53,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a great story in the New 1702 01:17:53,893 --> 01:17:56,532 Speaker 3: Zealand here at the sixteen tunnel Tale signs you're more 1703 01:17:56,732 --> 01:18:01,652 Speaker 3: common than you think. According to an etiquette expert, so common. 1704 01:18:01,732 --> 01:18:03,732 Speaker 3: This is William Hansen. He is the author of a 1705 01:18:03,812 --> 01:18:07,053 Speaker 3: newly released book, Just Good Manners, and he went on 1706 01:18:07,173 --> 01:18:10,572 Speaker 3: to say common can be defined in different ways, but 1707 01:18:10,692 --> 01:18:14,372 Speaker 3: it really means being overly mainstream or a bit naff. 1708 01:18:14,532 --> 01:18:16,772 Speaker 2: Well, it sounds horrible the him common, doesn't. It sounds 1709 01:18:16,973 --> 01:18:19,492 Speaker 2: like a class system you're trying to impose on people. Common. 1710 01:18:20,093 --> 01:18:21,253 Speaker 2: I would say I'm pretty common. 1711 01:18:22,253 --> 01:18:23,492 Speaker 3: You're in touch with the common man? 1712 01:18:23,812 --> 01:18:23,972 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1713 01:18:24,093 --> 01:18:25,933 Speaker 2: No, I would say I am the common man. I 1714 01:18:25,973 --> 01:18:28,572 Speaker 2: would say, I am the quintessential common man, That's what 1715 01:18:28,612 --> 01:18:29,093 Speaker 2: I would say. 1716 01:18:29,173 --> 01:18:29,333 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1717 01:18:29,372 --> 01:18:31,812 Speaker 3: Well, the interesting part about this story is he mentioned 1718 01:18:31,853 --> 01:18:34,572 Speaker 3: some things that I would never think to consider it 1719 01:18:34,612 --> 01:18:37,573 Speaker 3: to be common, like mounted televisions. 1720 01:18:37,652 --> 01:18:40,933 Speaker 2: Now I can't believe that, because the mountain televisions are fantastic. 1721 01:18:41,013 --> 01:18:43,372 Speaker 2: The idea that having a mounted television is common. Also, 1722 01:18:43,412 --> 01:18:46,532 Speaker 2: anything bigger than forty six inches is suspect. According to 1723 01:18:46,612 --> 01:18:49,253 Speaker 2: this guy, anything less than forty six inches is a 1724 01:18:49,293 --> 01:18:51,812 Speaker 2: waste of time. I mean we waited our whole lives. 1725 01:18:51,853 --> 01:18:54,652 Speaker 2: I remember a twenty nine inch television back in the 1726 01:18:54,732 --> 01:18:56,852 Speaker 2: day with the tube television, the catfaid rode. Yeah, it 1727 01:18:56,973 --> 01:18:59,572 Speaker 2: was took up half the room. But now it can 1728 01:18:59,652 --> 01:19:01,213 Speaker 2: just sit on your wall mounted. Do you have the 1729 01:19:01,253 --> 01:19:02,692 Speaker 2: biggest television you can afford? 1730 01:19:03,133 --> 01:19:05,293 Speaker 3: I thought that looks tidy. You know, that's upper class, 1731 01:19:05,333 --> 01:19:06,093 Speaker 3: even the mounted TV. 1732 01:19:06,173 --> 01:19:09,293 Speaker 2: Apparently not, Well, my cost it's just got a seventy 1733 01:19:09,333 --> 01:19:11,572 Speaker 2: inch television I heard. You know, is he common? 1734 01:19:11,933 --> 01:19:14,093 Speaker 3: Well you couldn't call Hoskin low rent, could you? 1735 01:19:14,253 --> 01:19:14,812 Speaker 2: No, you couldn't. 1736 01:19:14,853 --> 01:19:18,772 Speaker 3: He's high class. G and T's apparently a low rent now. 1737 01:19:18,853 --> 01:19:23,532 Speaker 2: Right, is a classy as gnt's are a very classy drink. 1738 01:19:23,572 --> 01:19:26,852 Speaker 2: Someone's saying, eating on public transport is common and one. 1739 01:19:26,732 --> 01:19:29,372 Speaker 3: That really hurt you. Yeah, and it probably hurt me 1740 01:19:29,452 --> 01:19:32,293 Speaker 3: even though I don't have this yet. Was sparples. Yeah, 1741 01:19:32,372 --> 01:19:33,733 Speaker 3: spar pools are tasteless. 1742 01:19:33,933 --> 01:19:36,652 Speaker 2: I think I'm a sort of a castle type person 1743 01:19:36,732 --> 01:19:39,692 Speaker 2: where everything that I think is flash and something to 1744 01:19:39,732 --> 01:19:41,732 Speaker 2: be celebrated and that you're doing well in life, like 1745 01:19:41,812 --> 01:19:44,852 Speaker 2: having a spar pool they're saying is common, Big TV's 1746 01:19:45,333 --> 01:19:47,933 Speaker 2: spar poles. That's how you know you've made it. That, 1747 01:19:48,133 --> 01:19:49,372 Speaker 2: that's when you're doing well in life. 1748 01:19:49,452 --> 01:19:52,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, quintessential middle class to me is a sparple. And 1749 01:19:53,053 --> 01:19:55,932 Speaker 3: I'm still waiting to get there, but I'll get there eventually. 1750 01:19:56,133 --> 01:19:59,852 Speaker 2: And this guy having a salted caramel or caramel as 1751 01:19:59,893 --> 01:20:02,013 Speaker 2: some people call it, salted caramel, Come on. 1752 01:20:02,173 --> 01:20:02,612 Speaker 3: That's low. 1753 01:20:02,732 --> 01:20:05,652 Speaker 2: That's classy. Salted caramel as classy as you get. 1754 01:20:05,732 --> 01:20:07,732 Speaker 3: That's a step above caramel. You get a little bit 1755 01:20:07,732 --> 01:20:08,293 Speaker 3: of salt on there. 1756 01:20:08,492 --> 01:20:11,253 Speaker 2: I can believe that people are assaulting caramel at one point, 1757 01:20:11,253 --> 01:20:12,412 Speaker 2: and now now I'm all about it. 1758 01:20:12,572 --> 01:20:14,612 Speaker 3: Oh wait, hundred eighty ten eighty is this guy off 1759 01:20:14,652 --> 01:20:17,253 Speaker 3: as rocker? I mean an etiquette expert, what do you 1760 01:20:17,333 --> 01:20:22,412 Speaker 3: think about mounted televisions and sparkle Sceen low Reds give 1761 01:20:22,452 --> 01:20:24,412 Speaker 3: us a buzz i eight hundred eighty ten eighty and 1762 01:20:24,572 --> 01:20:27,173 Speaker 3: the text number is nine to nine two. It is 1763 01:20:27,372 --> 01:20:29,253 Speaker 3: ten past three send me. 1764 01:20:31,532 --> 01:20:35,213 Speaker 2: Today we are joined by netropath Julia from About Health 1765 01:20:35,333 --> 01:20:37,532 Speaker 2: to talk about two health benefits. A lot of us 1766 01:20:37,572 --> 01:20:41,652 Speaker 2: will be interested. Julia, we're listening. What have you got 1767 01:20:41,772 --> 01:20:42,612 Speaker 2: for the listeners today? 1768 01:20:43,532 --> 01:20:44,652 Speaker 17: Hi, Matt, Hi Tyler. 1769 01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:47,492 Speaker 22: Look, today I want to talk about two of my 1770 01:20:47,692 --> 01:20:52,852 Speaker 22: favorite things, sweep and relaxation. Now, they are super important 1771 01:20:52,853 --> 01:20:55,132 Speaker 22: aspect of health and happy living, and if you're lacking 1772 01:20:55,213 --> 01:20:57,412 Speaker 22: in either of those, then you cann't really know about 1773 01:20:57,452 --> 01:20:58,052 Speaker 22: that firsthand. 1774 01:20:58,293 --> 01:21:00,492 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure they often go hand in hand, Julie. 1775 01:21:00,732 --> 01:21:02,973 Speaker 3: If you're not relaxed, it's hard to sleep, and if 1776 01:21:03,013 --> 01:21:05,652 Speaker 3: you're not getting enough sleep, it's kind of hard to relax, right. 1777 01:21:06,333 --> 01:21:07,253 Speaker 21: One hundred percent. 1778 01:21:07,572 --> 01:21:09,772 Speaker 22: And you know, so many the listeners will be, I'm sure, 1779 01:21:09,933 --> 01:21:13,053 Speaker 22: nodding their heads thinking all that sells like me. You know, 1780 01:21:13,213 --> 01:21:15,572 Speaker 22: poor sleep is so common. We don't need to do surveys, 1781 01:21:15,612 --> 01:21:18,132 Speaker 22: but they get done every now and then. Southern Cross 1782 01:21:18,253 --> 01:21:20,452 Speaker 22: Health Care did one a few years ago looking at 1783 01:21:20,492 --> 01:21:23,612 Speaker 22: the sleep habit KEYWA adults, and they found that twenty 1784 01:21:23,692 --> 01:21:26,692 Speaker 22: seven percent of people felt tired or fatigued when waking 1785 01:21:26,812 --> 01:21:30,732 Speaker 22: up nearly every day. Now, if you're younger, aged eighteen 1786 01:21:30,772 --> 01:21:33,333 Speaker 22: to thirty, that figure rose to about thirty eight percent 1787 01:21:33,372 --> 01:21:36,892 Speaker 22: of people. You know, So gosh, we know that poor 1788 01:21:36,973 --> 01:21:40,172 Speaker 22: quality sleep is a good quality sleep is so important 1789 01:21:40,173 --> 01:21:42,532 Speaker 22: for our brain, our heart, and our immune health, and 1790 01:21:42,652 --> 01:21:45,012 Speaker 22: it has this massive impact on our mood and energy. 1791 01:21:45,133 --> 01:21:47,053 Speaker 22: So anything that we can do to help it, I 1792 01:21:47,093 --> 01:21:47,892 Speaker 22: think is worth trying. 1793 01:21:48,133 --> 01:21:50,333 Speaker 2: And do you have something in your range of supplements 1794 01:21:50,372 --> 01:21:52,093 Speaker 2: that can help with sleep and relaxation. 1795 01:21:52,893 --> 01:21:53,173 Speaker 14: We do. 1796 01:21:53,853 --> 01:21:57,412 Speaker 22: Probably the gentlest thing to try first is magnesium. It 1797 01:21:57,572 --> 01:22:00,412 Speaker 22: is really popular for better sleep. 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And I'm 1863 01:25:08,652 --> 01:25:11,452 Speaker 2: looking through this and I'm hoping people will will come 1864 01:25:11,492 --> 01:25:13,452 Speaker 2: out on one hundred and eighteen eighty and support some 1865 01:25:13,572 --> 01:25:15,372 Speaker 2: of these things, because I think some of these things 1866 01:25:15,692 --> 01:25:19,053 Speaker 2: are flash, classy and call and the very things in 1867 01:25:19,133 --> 01:25:21,652 Speaker 2: life that I've aspired to, such as liquid soap. He's 1868 01:25:21,692 --> 01:25:26,093 Speaker 2: saying is common and lame, whereas I think liquid soap. 1869 01:25:26,333 --> 01:25:29,133 Speaker 2: You're really achieving in life if you're managing to run 1870 01:25:29,173 --> 01:25:32,492 Speaker 2: a liquid soap pump. And and particularly what he's been 1871 01:25:32,532 --> 01:25:35,532 Speaker 2: going on about is mounted TVs and anything over forty 1872 01:25:35,612 --> 01:25:36,492 Speaker 2: six inches, So. 1873 01:25:36,612 --> 01:25:39,532 Speaker 3: That one just on the liquid soap, I mean, that's 1874 01:25:39,572 --> 01:25:41,852 Speaker 3: the good life ivan liquid soap rather than the bar soap. 1875 01:25:41,893 --> 01:25:42,932 Speaker 3: Nobody wants bar soap. 1876 01:25:43,133 --> 01:25:44,333 Speaker 2: No, it leaves a horrible mess. 1877 01:25:44,612 --> 01:25:47,852 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the mountain televisions again, that's when you've made it. 1878 01:25:48,412 --> 01:25:51,093 Speaker 3: It's tidy sufficient, Simeon. What do you reckon? 1879 01:25:52,452 --> 01:25:54,053 Speaker 4: Oh, Orgon is a bit of a tough one. You know, 1880 01:25:54,173 --> 01:25:57,972 Speaker 4: they're saying that slascreen TV's are pretty standard, pretty common, 1881 01:25:58,053 --> 01:26:00,732 Speaker 4: and that you know, that sort of theirs. But everyone's 1882 01:26:00,732 --> 01:26:03,372 Speaker 4: struggling to buy food, so like I see a little 1883 01:26:03,412 --> 01:26:05,372 Speaker 4: difference or indifference in that one. 1884 01:26:05,492 --> 01:26:08,052 Speaker 2: Mean, what's those television are you running there? Simeon? 1885 01:26:09,492 --> 01:26:12,093 Speaker 4: Personally, I have I think it's a I think it's 1886 01:26:12,093 --> 01:26:14,732 Speaker 4: a forty two but I got about five six years ago. 1887 01:26:14,973 --> 01:26:16,852 Speaker 2: Yeah, forty two inch, oh yes. 1888 01:26:16,893 --> 01:26:19,532 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I usually work my PlayStation so that I 1889 01:26:19,572 --> 01:26:20,892 Speaker 4: can game, you know from time to time. 1890 01:26:21,053 --> 01:26:24,892 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, yeah, And do you aspire to move up 1891 01:26:24,933 --> 01:26:25,852 Speaker 2: the television size? 1892 01:26:26,973 --> 01:26:28,333 Speaker 4: I mean, at some stage I want to put it 1893 01:26:28,412 --> 01:26:30,412 Speaker 4: on a wall just for the convenience of it not 1894 01:26:30,532 --> 01:26:32,892 Speaker 4: having to have a TV unit sitting under there. Give 1895 01:26:32,933 --> 01:26:35,772 Speaker 4: me more four space. Yeah, but I don't think I'll 1896 01:26:35,772 --> 01:26:37,253 Speaker 4: go much bigger than what it is, to be fair. 1897 01:26:37,293 --> 01:26:39,053 Speaker 4: And if I want a bigger TV, I'll just go 1898 01:26:39,213 --> 01:26:40,932 Speaker 4: to the cinema. And what's a moving on a big 1899 01:26:40,973 --> 01:26:41,732 Speaker 4: screen there? Yeah? 1900 01:26:41,772 --> 01:26:43,572 Speaker 3: Good call. What sort of PlayStation are you running? 1901 01:26:43,612 --> 01:26:47,532 Speaker 4: Simeon currently just got the old PlayStation four. Looking at 1902 01:26:47,893 --> 01:26:49,572 Speaker 4: the idea of an upgrade to a P five. 1903 01:26:50,173 --> 01:26:51,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I tell you what, I upgraded to a 1904 01:26:51,812 --> 01:26:53,772 Speaker 2: P five. There's not much of an advantage in the 1905 01:26:53,812 --> 01:26:56,852 Speaker 2: P five. None other really fantastic P five games came out. 1906 01:26:57,253 --> 01:26:58,932 Speaker 2: I'm still a big fan of the P four. 1907 01:26:59,173 --> 01:27:01,333 Speaker 3: And if you wait eighteen months, I mean the PS 1908 01:27:01,372 --> 01:27:03,012 Speaker 3: six is going to come out in about eighteen months. 1909 01:27:03,053 --> 01:27:05,053 Speaker 3: So just hold the line, I say, Simeon. 1910 01:27:04,853 --> 01:27:07,012 Speaker 2: They have you just released it completely useless new version 1911 01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:11,133 Speaker 2: of the P five. But yeah, okay, so mounted televisions. 1912 01:27:11,333 --> 01:27:14,893 Speaker 2: I think I believe personally that that's that's how you 1913 01:27:15,013 --> 01:27:17,372 Speaker 2: do number glass, that's how you demonstrate you're going well 1914 01:27:17,412 --> 01:27:19,813 Speaker 2: in life. The number of inches you're running. 1915 01:27:19,812 --> 01:27:22,452 Speaker 3: Number of inches? How BIG's you tell you? 1916 01:27:23,893 --> 01:27:24,053 Speaker 8: Well? 1917 01:27:24,173 --> 01:27:27,173 Speaker 2: The one upstairs I'm going to say is that's a 1918 01:27:27,213 --> 01:27:29,253 Speaker 2: really good point. I think that might be. That might 1919 01:27:29,372 --> 01:27:31,092 Speaker 2: just be a fifty five or upstairs? 1920 01:27:31,812 --> 01:27:34,213 Speaker 3: How many inches on the downstairs or pressure bigger? 1921 01:27:34,253 --> 01:27:37,652 Speaker 2: Pardon seventy? Well that's a big tal seventy in the den. 1922 01:27:38,213 --> 01:27:40,012 Speaker 3: Yeah, And both of them are mounted on the Wii. 1923 01:27:40,093 --> 01:27:42,532 Speaker 3: The swing about maturely, you've got You've got a step 1924 01:27:42,572 --> 01:27:44,173 Speaker 3: above that. You've got to tell you that just kind 1925 01:27:44,173 --> 01:27:45,253 Speaker 3: of folds into the walls. 1926 01:27:45,492 --> 01:27:47,372 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got one of those ones that also works 1927 01:27:47,412 --> 01:27:49,213 Speaker 2: as a piece of art when you're not watching it, 1928 01:27:49,293 --> 01:27:50,892 Speaker 2: And that's plumbed right into the wall. But I didn't 1929 01:27:50,893 --> 01:27:53,532 Speaker 2: realize when I bought it that you just see it 1930 01:27:53,572 --> 01:27:55,293 Speaker 2: in the store and it's just this TV, but there's 1931 01:27:55,333 --> 01:27:57,372 Speaker 2: this huge box that goes along with it. All the 1932 01:27:57,412 --> 01:28:00,053 Speaker 2: workings of the TV that make it so so thin 1933 01:28:00,572 --> 01:28:04,293 Speaker 2: actually operate outside the television. So I have that plumbed 1934 01:28:04,333 --> 01:28:06,333 Speaker 2: in and now I've got this weird great round the 1935 01:28:06,452 --> 01:28:07,852 Speaker 2: stairwell where I go and if I have to do 1936 01:28:07,933 --> 01:28:09,812 Speaker 2: anything crazy to the TV around the back, it's good. 1937 01:28:09,853 --> 01:28:13,773 Speaker 3: Look and tell you though, the Samsung frame. It's beautiful 1938 01:28:13,853 --> 01:28:16,452 Speaker 3: and you've got a money What is that? 1939 01:28:16,572 --> 01:28:16,732 Speaker 22: Right? 1940 01:28:17,053 --> 01:28:18,973 Speaker 3: What's the outwork? Because that's what it's about, right, The 1941 01:28:19,053 --> 01:28:20,412 Speaker 3: frame is there to look like. 1942 01:28:21,452 --> 01:28:23,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, this person is saying that my TV is not 1943 01:28:23,013 --> 01:28:25,492 Speaker 2: classy because it's more than forty six inches. But I 1944 01:28:25,692 --> 01:28:32,333 Speaker 2: subscribe to this this art, to these different the art subscriptions. 1945 01:28:32,412 --> 01:28:34,452 Speaker 2: You can have different paintings on there and they look beautiful. 1946 01:28:34,492 --> 01:28:37,012 Speaker 2: Of we're currently running a Claude Monet. Classy? 1947 01:28:37,093 --> 01:28:38,333 Speaker 3: Is that that's very classy? 1948 01:28:38,412 --> 01:28:38,532 Speaker 4: Right? 1949 01:28:38,732 --> 01:28:41,093 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you feel a 1950 01:28:41,133 --> 01:28:44,852 Speaker 3: bit aggrieved of what this this etiquette expert is saying 1951 01:28:44,973 --> 01:28:47,772 Speaker 3: is low class, particularly the G and T's and the 1952 01:28:47,853 --> 01:28:49,652 Speaker 3: sparples you together. 1953 01:28:49,973 --> 01:28:52,772 Speaker 2: G and T's is about as classy as you can get. 1954 01:28:53,492 --> 01:28:54,572 Speaker 3: Twenty past three. 1955 01:28:54,652 --> 01:29:02,173 Speaker 1: Back in the moment, Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons 1956 01:29:02,333 --> 01:29:05,653 Speaker 1: call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB. 1957 01:29:05,853 --> 01:29:09,173 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, It's twenty three past three. This list put 1958 01:29:09,253 --> 01:29:13,372 Speaker 3: together by the etiquette experts. There sixteen things that apparently 1959 01:29:13,492 --> 01:29:14,532 Speaker 3: makes you pretty common. 1960 01:29:14,812 --> 01:29:14,972 Speaker 4: Well. 1961 01:29:15,333 --> 01:29:18,132 Speaker 2: Linda on nineteen nine two said, happy to be trashy. 1962 01:29:18,173 --> 01:29:20,572 Speaker 2: Sparpols are the best outdoors under the stars and the winter. 1963 01:29:20,652 --> 01:29:22,412 Speaker 2: That's from Linda. So trashy is kind of the word 1964 01:29:22,492 --> 01:29:25,012 Speaker 2: he's using as an ask, stitching around what he means 1965 01:29:25,053 --> 01:29:27,732 Speaker 2: by common he kind of kind of means trashy. 1966 01:29:27,933 --> 01:29:29,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he's getting in. 1967 01:29:29,293 --> 01:29:30,532 Speaker 2: So tie clips is one of them. 1968 01:29:31,013 --> 01:29:32,333 Speaker 3: Tie clips are very smart. 1969 01:29:32,652 --> 01:29:34,892 Speaker 2: I think as we go through this, we realize he's 1970 01:29:34,893 --> 01:29:37,973 Speaker 2: talking about us because I would never be classy enough 1971 01:29:38,013 --> 01:29:39,412 Speaker 2: to run a tie clip. And a tie clip is 1972 01:29:39,732 --> 01:29:40,973 Speaker 2: I don't even really know what it was when he 1973 01:29:41,053 --> 01:29:42,293 Speaker 2: was first talking about it. I thought it was when 1974 01:29:42,333 --> 01:29:44,612 Speaker 2: you have a tie that you don't tie and it's 1975 01:29:44,652 --> 01:29:46,772 Speaker 2: got a band and you just put it over your head. Yeah, 1976 01:29:46,812 --> 01:29:48,492 Speaker 2: you know that's somebodys talking about. He's talking about when 1977 01:29:48,532 --> 01:29:51,012 Speaker 2: you have that classy little clip that holds a tie 1978 01:29:51,053 --> 01:29:51,892 Speaker 2: close to your shirt. 1979 01:29:52,093 --> 01:29:54,812 Speaker 3: I've never been fancy enough, so it's a rocket tie clip. 1980 01:29:54,853 --> 01:29:57,692 Speaker 3: I've always just started with the original tie that to 1981 01:29:57,812 --> 01:29:58,892 Speaker 3: me is super classy. 1982 01:29:59,213 --> 01:30:03,372 Speaker 2: Liquid soap he's saying is trashy and that you should 1983 01:30:03,372 --> 01:30:04,812 Speaker 2: be going back to the bars of soap. 1984 01:30:05,133 --> 01:30:06,612 Speaker 3: No, no, I cannot agree with that. 1985 01:30:06,853 --> 01:30:09,812 Speaker 2: No, get out, mate, get out. He's listing a bunch 1986 01:30:09,812 --> 01:30:13,932 Speaker 2: of really classy expensive soaps like well, for me, Imperial Leather. 1987 01:30:14,013 --> 01:30:15,412 Speaker 2: Now that's a classic bar of soap. 1988 01:30:15,452 --> 01:30:17,932 Speaker 3: That's a good bar and it lasts a distance as well. 1989 01:30:17,973 --> 01:30:19,372 Speaker 3: They're bear Boy last three months. 1990 01:30:19,652 --> 01:30:19,852 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1991 01:30:20,053 --> 01:30:23,652 Speaker 3: Eating on the street, Yeah, I see where he's getting 1992 01:30:23,652 --> 01:30:23,973 Speaker 3: at with that. 1993 01:30:24,173 --> 01:30:27,053 Speaker 2: Well, when my mum was going to Imbcago Girls, she 1994 01:30:27,452 --> 01:30:29,213 Speaker 2: told me that she would always say that you can't 1995 01:30:29,213 --> 01:30:30,812 Speaker 2: really eat on the street. But once she got cane 1996 01:30:30,893 --> 01:30:32,972 Speaker 2: for eating on the street and a uniform walking to school. 1997 01:30:34,173 --> 01:30:35,612 Speaker 2: I think she was just eating an ice cream. 1998 01:30:35,812 --> 01:30:37,333 Speaker 3: Oh, one of the nuns saw her. 1999 01:30:37,652 --> 01:30:40,372 Speaker 2: Yeah, driving past on the way to school and gave 2000 01:30:40,372 --> 01:30:42,933 Speaker 2: her a good caning for it. So it used to 2001 01:30:42,973 --> 01:30:46,892 Speaker 2: be considered a really like a criminal on the street. 2002 01:30:46,692 --> 01:30:49,093 Speaker 3: Eating ice cream on the street. That's a canan. 2003 01:30:49,293 --> 01:30:53,092 Speaker 2: Holding a knife like a pen. So that's where because 2004 01:30:53,133 --> 01:30:57,092 Speaker 2: you know, my parents were really really strict on table etiquette, 2005 01:30:57,372 --> 01:31:00,532 Speaker 2: so we have to have the finger pointing right down 2006 01:31:00,572 --> 01:31:03,412 Speaker 2: the knife as well. So I do I find a 2007 01:31:03,412 --> 01:31:05,013 Speaker 2: little bit weird when people it's kind of like they're 2008 01:31:05,053 --> 01:31:07,293 Speaker 2: doing an autopsy when they hold. 2009 01:31:07,093 --> 01:31:09,372 Speaker 3: A little bit precise, don't you can you kind of need. 2010 01:31:09,452 --> 01:31:11,612 Speaker 2: And you can't get that. You can't get the leverage 2011 01:31:11,652 --> 01:31:14,973 Speaker 2: the purchase you need to get through something mounted televisions. 2012 01:31:15,213 --> 01:31:17,572 Speaker 3: Talked about that one. I think that's classy. 2013 01:31:18,372 --> 01:31:21,333 Speaker 2: How big as a TV before you think it's getting 2014 01:31:21,492 --> 01:31:24,692 Speaker 2: desperate or you're making too much of a statement. 2015 01:31:25,213 --> 01:31:27,692 Speaker 3: Sixty five inch is a limit for me. Sixty five 2016 01:31:27,772 --> 01:31:30,253 Speaker 3: that's a big telly. Yeah, if you go because what's 2017 01:31:30,253 --> 01:31:32,572 Speaker 3: above that? Then it gets to seventy seven that's too big, 2018 01:31:32,772 --> 01:31:33,412 Speaker 3: I think as. 2019 01:31:33,293 --> 01:31:35,253 Speaker 2: We go forward, because a lot of us like, man, 2020 01:31:35,293 --> 01:31:36,812 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit older than you, Tyler, and when 2021 01:31:36,812 --> 01:31:39,692 Speaker 2: I grew up, our TVs were so small, so we 2022 01:31:39,812 --> 01:31:42,013 Speaker 2: were just like the bigger, the better. Bigger you can 2023 01:31:42,053 --> 01:31:43,772 Speaker 2: get a television, the better. And I think I'm still 2024 01:31:43,812 --> 01:31:46,372 Speaker 2: in that mindset. If it can fit on that wall 2025 01:31:46,973 --> 01:31:49,932 Speaker 2: and you can afford it, you get that biggest set 2026 01:31:50,013 --> 01:31:52,612 Speaker 2: you can and you're mounted on the wall because having 2027 01:31:52,652 --> 01:31:54,972 Speaker 2: a television cabinet takes up unnecessary space. 2028 01:31:55,372 --> 01:31:58,572 Speaker 3: Sixty inch trashy straight away, so. 2029 01:31:58,732 --> 01:32:01,013 Speaker 2: You're on five inches over that with my trashiness. 2030 01:32:01,053 --> 01:32:03,692 Speaker 3: I remember how stoked I was when I got my parents' 2031 01:32:03,732 --> 01:32:06,333 Speaker 3: old fourteen inch teally that finally went in my room 2032 01:32:06,372 --> 01:32:08,133 Speaker 3: when I was about thirteen years old. I thought that 2033 01:32:08,492 --> 01:32:11,892 Speaker 3: was the best thing around. Fourteen inch, baby, it is amazing. 2034 01:32:12,093 --> 01:32:14,213 Speaker 2: It's quite amazing. So what was how big was the 2035 01:32:14,293 --> 01:32:15,532 Speaker 2: standard sort of television? 2036 01:32:15,652 --> 01:32:15,772 Speaker 8: Was it? 2037 01:32:16,133 --> 01:32:19,293 Speaker 2: No? People had like twenty inch television, nineteen inch. 2038 01:32:19,333 --> 01:32:22,053 Speaker 3: Thirty two inch was massive when I was a kid. 2039 01:32:22,093 --> 01:32:24,053 Speaker 3: Thirty two inch and they would have taken up. 2040 01:32:24,013 --> 01:32:25,852 Speaker 2: They would have taken up most of the lounge with 2041 01:32:26,133 --> 01:32:27,372 Speaker 2: the tube out the back of it. 2042 01:32:27,492 --> 01:32:29,253 Speaker 3: It felt like it at the time. Yeah, and you 2043 01:32:29,293 --> 01:32:31,692 Speaker 3: could fit sixteen people around watching the thirty two inch 2044 01:32:31,732 --> 01:32:32,572 Speaker 3: and we were happy ass. 2045 01:32:32,652 --> 01:32:34,812 Speaker 2: But it isn't amazing that families used to sit around 2046 01:32:34,893 --> 01:32:37,652 Speaker 2: and on a couch and all watch a television on 2047 01:32:37,692 --> 01:32:42,452 Speaker 2: a fourteen inch television. Do we have better isolate back 2048 01:32:42,492 --> 01:32:43,012 Speaker 2: then or something? 2049 01:32:43,213 --> 01:32:44,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of teks and we'll get back to 2050 01:32:44,933 --> 01:32:48,132 Speaker 3: your phone calls. Okay. Common regarding TV is not size 2051 01:32:48,213 --> 01:32:50,852 Speaker 3: or mounted. It's if they leave it on when you visit, 2052 01:32:50,933 --> 01:32:53,852 Speaker 3: unless you were there to watch sport or something planned. 2053 01:32:54,173 --> 01:32:57,973 Speaker 3: Turn the damn thing off, you fearal Robbie, that is I. 2054 01:32:58,013 --> 01:32:59,772 Speaker 2: Think there might be something in that. I don't want 2055 01:32:59,812 --> 01:33:02,093 Speaker 2: to be onside with this snooty etiquette guy, but I 2056 01:33:02,173 --> 01:33:04,772 Speaker 2: think if you bring someone around, it's just blasting random 2057 01:33:04,812 --> 01:33:07,253 Speaker 2: television in the court of the road. Then you want 2058 01:33:07,293 --> 01:33:09,173 Speaker 2: to turn that off and focus attention on the people 2059 01:33:09,213 --> 01:33:10,812 Speaker 2: that are visiting you, visiting you. I'm with you on 2060 01:33:10,853 --> 01:33:11,412 Speaker 2: that one, Robie. 2061 01:33:11,452 --> 01:33:12,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, good call Connor, how are you? 2062 01:33:14,452 --> 01:33:14,652 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2063 01:33:14,732 --> 01:33:15,452 Speaker 16: Good, Tyler. 2064 01:33:18,173 --> 01:33:19,533 Speaker 3: Talk to us about Telly's. 2065 01:33:19,293 --> 01:33:23,973 Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I heard. My dad has always been a. 2066 01:33:26,293 --> 01:33:28,772 Speaker 3: Well might have just lost Connor. Hopefully you'll come back. 2067 01:33:28,853 --> 01:33:33,932 Speaker 16: We had a we had a set up where where 2068 01:33:34,532 --> 01:33:37,532 Speaker 16: you could cook in the kitchen and have a thirty 2069 01:33:37,572 --> 01:33:39,772 Speaker 16: inch TV there, you could sit in the dining room 2070 01:33:39,812 --> 01:33:42,132 Speaker 16: table and have a fifty inch TV just above the piano, 2071 01:33:42,173 --> 01:33:44,692 Speaker 16: and then an eighty five inch TV for the lounge. 2072 01:33:44,732 --> 01:33:47,933 Speaker 16: So that was that was my dad definitely capturing the 2073 01:33:48,372 --> 01:33:49,853 Speaker 16: old school mental. 2074 01:33:49,652 --> 01:33:50,492 Speaker 11: Of that heat. 2075 01:33:51,412 --> 01:33:51,572 Speaker 4: Yea. 2076 01:33:53,013 --> 01:33:54,652 Speaker 2: So there was so there was there was no where 2077 01:33:54,692 --> 01:33:57,212 Speaker 2: you could really go and not be watching television. 2078 01:33:58,492 --> 01:33:58,692 Speaker 8: Yeah. 2079 01:33:58,732 --> 01:34:01,333 Speaker 16: He even had a mirror up So there was one 2080 01:34:01,372 --> 01:34:03,892 Speaker 16: blind spot in the in the upstairs house and there 2081 01:34:03,973 --> 01:34:05,772 Speaker 16: was a mirror set up right where you could just 2082 01:34:05,973 --> 01:34:07,452 Speaker 16: see that see that half of the TV. 2083 01:34:07,612 --> 01:34:12,212 Speaker 3: So that's brilliant. 2084 01:34:12,572 --> 01:34:14,692 Speaker 2: One thing that blew my mind the first time I 2085 01:34:14,732 --> 01:34:18,173 Speaker 2: went to the United States was going to a sports bar. Actually, 2086 01:34:18,173 --> 01:34:19,452 Speaker 2: the first time I went to the United States as 2087 01:34:19,452 --> 01:34:22,532 Speaker 2: an adult and went to a sports bar and they 2088 01:34:22,612 --> 01:34:25,572 Speaker 2: still they had the televisions in the bathroom so you 2089 01:34:25,572 --> 01:34:27,293 Speaker 2: wouldn't miss a second of it. I just thought that 2090 01:34:27,772 --> 01:34:29,772 Speaker 2: this is the future. I love it, and that has 2091 01:34:29,772 --> 01:34:31,492 Speaker 2: come to New Zealand. Now there's a couple of sports 2092 01:34:31,532 --> 01:34:34,013 Speaker 2: bars around where even when you when you have to 2093 01:34:34,093 --> 01:34:35,293 Speaker 2: go and do what you've got to do, you can 2094 01:34:35,412 --> 01:34:36,933 Speaker 2: you can still keep watching. 2095 01:34:36,772 --> 01:34:37,492 Speaker 3: About Time we Go. 2096 01:34:37,652 --> 01:34:40,492 Speaker 2: That is classy. That is class is classy. 2097 01:34:40,893 --> 01:34:43,852 Speaker 3: Sheers very much. Connor. We'll get to Bryce just after 2098 01:34:43,893 --> 01:34:47,253 Speaker 3: the headlines. Actually, because Raylan is standing by. It is 2099 01:34:47,333 --> 01:34:48,492 Speaker 3: twenty eight past three. 2100 01:34:51,412 --> 01:34:51,932 Speaker 2: US talks. 2101 01:34:51,973 --> 01:34:54,372 Speaker 3: It'd be headlines with blue bubble tacks. 2102 01:34:54,612 --> 01:34:57,372 Speaker 14: Is it's no trouble with a blue bubble for man 2103 01:34:57,532 --> 01:35:00,333 Speaker 14: and a teen have been arrested in Auckland, accused of 2104 01:35:00,452 --> 01:35:03,692 Speaker 14: forcing their way into a home in Epsom, holding a 2105 01:35:03,732 --> 01:35:08,133 Speaker 14: person hostage and stealing personal items for eighteen to twenty 2106 01:35:08,133 --> 01:35:10,892 Speaker 14: thre three year olds have been charged with kidnapping and burglary. 2107 01:35:11,253 --> 01:35:15,612 Speaker 14: A sixteen year olds also arrested. A judge has reserved 2108 01:35:15,652 --> 01:35:19,013 Speaker 14: a decision on former Green MP Gorri's Garnaman's attempt to 2109 01:35:19,173 --> 01:35:23,772 Speaker 14: keep her shoplifting conviction off the record. The Taxpayer's Union 2110 01:35:23,853 --> 01:35:28,653 Speaker 14: says Kaying Orders needs more accountability, with complaints over apartments 2111 01:35:28,732 --> 01:35:32,412 Speaker 14: in a new complex costing one point two million dollars each. 2112 01:35:33,412 --> 01:35:36,932 Speaker 14: The Health and Disability Commissions recommended more training and an 2113 01:35:36,933 --> 01:35:40,293 Speaker 14: apology from Saint John after a man died as his 2114 01:35:40,412 --> 01:35:43,932 Speaker 14: wife drove him to hospital with heart attack symptoms almost 2115 01:35:44,013 --> 01:35:47,812 Speaker 14: an hour after she'd called one one one. Three staff 2116 01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:50,492 Speaker 14: from an Auckland early childhood center are in hospital, with 2117 01:35:50,612 --> 01:35:54,893 Speaker 14: two with serious injuries after a refrigerant gas leak. No 2118 01:35:55,093 --> 01:35:59,333 Speaker 14: children were harmed. Team New Zealand's Absolute Weapon and the 2119 01:35:59,412 --> 01:36:02,892 Speaker 14: possible defining moment of Regatta. You can read the full 2120 01:36:02,933 --> 01:36:05,852 Speaker 14: column at Enzi Herald Premium are back to Matt Heath 2121 01:36:05,973 --> 01:36:06,892 Speaker 14: and Tyler Adams. 2122 01:36:07,013 --> 01:36:09,492 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, rayleanh. It is twenty eight to four. 2123 01:36:09,853 --> 01:36:13,012 Speaker 2: Welcome the show, Sophia. Your thoughts on this etiquette list 2124 01:36:13,053 --> 01:36:13,772 Speaker 2: we've been talking. 2125 01:36:13,572 --> 01:36:18,412 Speaker 18: About, Well, I sometimes wonder reading or hearing about this 2126 01:36:18,492 --> 01:36:22,133 Speaker 18: etiquette list that maybe this guy is lying to us 2127 01:36:22,173 --> 01:36:24,732 Speaker 18: about being an expert because I. 2128 01:36:24,973 --> 01:36:26,692 Speaker 23: Don't know what he I mean. 2129 01:36:26,732 --> 01:36:29,173 Speaker 18: I imagine he's selling this course to people and they're 2130 01:36:29,253 --> 01:36:33,932 Speaker 18: buying it and dozing led us straight. But I mean essentially, 2131 01:36:34,333 --> 01:36:37,492 Speaker 18: I think being classy by his definition is pretending you've 2132 01:36:37,532 --> 01:36:39,652 Speaker 18: got no money, which is unfortunately in the cost of 2133 01:36:39,732 --> 01:36:42,372 Speaker 18: living crisis. But I mean I'd hate to know how 2134 01:36:42,412 --> 01:36:45,013 Speaker 18: impulsive people buy things. You know, sometimes you just got 2135 01:36:45,093 --> 01:36:46,892 Speaker 18: to let the money go. Sometimes you've got to try 2136 01:36:46,893 --> 01:36:48,772 Speaker 18: and keep it, which is the biggest challenge of life. 2137 01:36:49,333 --> 01:36:51,452 Speaker 2: Sophia, what do you think about this one? Applying makeup 2138 01:36:51,652 --> 01:36:54,532 Speaker 2: in public? Is that trashy? 2139 01:36:58,053 --> 01:36:58,532 Speaker 12: Depends? 2140 01:36:58,692 --> 01:37:01,173 Speaker 18: It does depend? I mean in a public bathroom, probably not. 2141 01:37:01,452 --> 01:37:04,372 Speaker 18: But you know, sometimes people are living a busy life. 2142 01:37:04,492 --> 01:37:07,333 Speaker 18: So maybe on a bus maybe would be okay, on 2143 01:37:07,452 --> 01:37:08,253 Speaker 18: a train is okay. 2144 01:37:09,772 --> 01:37:10,173 Speaker 8: I don't know. 2145 01:37:10,772 --> 01:37:14,812 Speaker 18: Well, actually actually thinking about it. Make up hopefully it's 2146 01:37:14,812 --> 01:37:16,973 Speaker 18: a long lasting where so if your makeup is not 2147 01:37:17,093 --> 01:37:19,092 Speaker 18: serving you for the twenty four hours that it stays, 2148 01:37:19,213 --> 01:37:22,333 Speaker 18: then we need some new strategy. 2149 01:37:23,652 --> 01:37:26,293 Speaker 3: And on the Telly question, how big is too big 2150 01:37:26,412 --> 01:37:28,452 Speaker 3: for you? Sophia, If you're going to afford a one 2151 01:37:28,572 --> 01:37:32,493 Speaker 3: hundred inch should you wear, you know, have that displayed 2152 01:37:32,853 --> 01:37:33,852 Speaker 3: with pride in your house? 2153 01:37:34,893 --> 01:37:38,253 Speaker 18: Well, consideration needs to be taken into at play, because 2154 01:37:38,293 --> 01:37:40,412 Speaker 18: I mean, if your room's only what five minutes square, 2155 01:37:40,412 --> 01:37:45,572 Speaker 18: then hundred and TV is far too big. But if 2156 01:37:45,612 --> 01:37:49,173 Speaker 18: you've got a very small and I guess modest, you know, 2157 01:37:49,812 --> 01:37:53,652 Speaker 18: living room, then then maybe, but actually maybe having no 2158 01:37:53,853 --> 01:37:58,053 Speaker 18: TV is the ultimate class, you know, because you're living 2159 01:37:58,053 --> 01:38:00,652 Speaker 18: a busy life, not a busy life sun life. 2160 01:38:01,133 --> 01:38:05,253 Speaker 2: When I went first went flatting Sophia, I had to 2161 01:38:05,293 --> 01:38:07,293 Speaker 2: live in a shed because because I didn't have a 2162 01:38:07,333 --> 01:38:09,892 Speaker 2: lot of money. First fletting is a very young man 2163 01:38:10,013 --> 01:38:12,612 Speaker 2: left home when I was quite young, and the first 2164 01:38:12,652 --> 01:38:14,532 Speaker 2: thing I did was by the biggest TV I could. 2165 01:38:15,812 --> 01:38:18,133 Speaker 2: But back then that was that was came with a 2166 01:38:18,213 --> 01:38:21,133 Speaker 2: huge tube out the back of it, and so my 2167 01:38:21,293 --> 01:38:24,053 Speaker 2: girlfriend was so furious when she got home because we 2168 01:38:24,173 --> 01:38:26,532 Speaker 2: had to sleep curled up in the fetal position because 2169 01:38:26,572 --> 01:38:29,532 Speaker 2: it took up such a large percentage of the shed 2170 01:38:29,612 --> 01:38:32,372 Speaker 2: we were living in. So I think on retrospect I 2171 01:38:32,412 --> 01:38:33,852 Speaker 2: had to agree with her that I'd gone for two 2172 01:38:34,333 --> 01:38:37,333 Speaker 2: bigger TV. But that was in the tube thing. Now 2173 01:38:37,973 --> 01:38:40,932 Speaker 2: the TV all it is it's basically warpaper. As big 2174 01:38:41,013 --> 01:38:42,852 Speaker 2: as you can fit warpaper on, you can fit the TV. 2175 01:38:42,933 --> 01:38:43,652 Speaker 2: And I say, go for it. 2176 01:38:44,452 --> 01:38:46,532 Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with you. 2177 01:38:46,652 --> 01:38:49,373 Speaker 18: I mean that those TVs with the with the pictures 2178 01:38:49,492 --> 01:38:52,812 Speaker 18: on it as next level. It's you've got the hybrid 2179 01:38:53,452 --> 01:38:54,812 Speaker 18: art and entertainment. 2180 01:38:56,612 --> 01:39:00,333 Speaker 3: Yeah he is upper class now, Jess, you're a bit 2181 01:39:00,412 --> 01:39:02,893 Speaker 3: upset that the G and t's, the classic gin and 2182 01:39:02,973 --> 01:39:04,892 Speaker 3: tonic has been highlighted by this guy. 2183 01:39:05,053 --> 01:39:05,772 Speaker 2: It's trashy. 2184 01:39:08,772 --> 01:39:10,973 Speaker 4: No, No, I love a good G and T me too. 2185 01:39:11,893 --> 01:39:14,093 Speaker 25: It has to be a tanker and it has to 2186 01:39:14,173 --> 01:39:17,772 Speaker 25: be a nice chrys tonic. So you don't need all 2187 01:39:17,812 --> 01:39:24,213 Speaker 25: this happy dippy stuff. Doesn't need flowers, doesn't needtanical It 2188 01:39:24,532 --> 01:39:27,652 Speaker 25: just needs a lot of ice and a nice crispy tonic. 2189 01:39:28,652 --> 01:39:35,732 Speaker 25: And sorry, no you go, Yess, and red fingernails and 2190 01:39:36,293 --> 01:39:37,412 Speaker 25: a nice Figi. 2191 01:39:40,772 --> 01:39:41,093 Speaker 3: As well. 2192 01:39:41,213 --> 01:39:44,892 Speaker 2: Jess, maybe not, and you're just on the Gordons. You're 2193 01:39:44,973 --> 01:39:46,253 Speaker 2: one one, two five of Gordon's. 2194 01:39:46,372 --> 01:39:50,692 Speaker 25: No, it has to be a good London dry tank 2195 01:39:51,732 --> 01:39:54,852 Speaker 25: and what sort of tonic do you go for? Look 2196 01:39:54,893 --> 01:39:58,012 Speaker 25: a good old sweat. I know that sounds trashy in itself, 2197 01:39:58,133 --> 01:40:02,013 Speaker 25: doesn't it start there's a reverse psychology here. Those who 2198 01:40:02,053 --> 01:40:04,732 Speaker 25: think they are Styli and Sarsy with their happy tippy 2199 01:40:04,812 --> 01:40:06,652 Speaker 25: tonics have actually got it all wrong. 2200 01:40:06,933 --> 01:40:07,612 Speaker 8: It's reverse. 2201 01:40:08,572 --> 01:40:11,892 Speaker 25: So yeah, you've got to too your toonics. 2202 01:40:11,933 --> 01:40:17,652 Speaker 2: Well, you're a purist. What about a diet a diet tonic. 2203 01:40:18,692 --> 01:40:20,852 Speaker 25: Yeah, have to use that, use the dietonic. 2204 01:40:21,093 --> 01:40:23,333 Speaker 2: So you're watching your finger at the same time as 2205 01:40:23,492 --> 01:40:26,213 Speaker 2: slamming a few gen t's. When does it get unclassy? 2206 01:40:26,572 --> 01:40:30,133 Speaker 2: Is there a volume of gents? So, yes, you're sitting 2207 01:40:30,173 --> 01:40:33,012 Speaker 2: down for one, that's classy two, still classy, three, four, five. 2208 01:40:33,492 --> 01:40:36,173 Speaker 2: Once you're getting around eight, are you starting to lose 2209 01:40:36,213 --> 01:40:36,892 Speaker 2: some of that class? 2210 01:40:37,973 --> 01:40:38,573 Speaker 9: Goblets? 2211 01:40:38,772 --> 01:40:39,853 Speaker 25: Half and half. 2212 01:40:42,572 --> 01:40:44,293 Speaker 2: Way to go, especially if you're free pouring. 2213 01:40:44,492 --> 01:40:46,372 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, though. Jeez. If I go on 2214 01:40:46,372 --> 01:40:48,652 Speaker 3: to a gin bar and I think that I'm being 2215 01:40:48,772 --> 01:40:51,013 Speaker 3: upper class, but I'm getting a gin with, you know, 2216 01:40:51,093 --> 01:40:53,492 Speaker 3: a circle of eyes and a nice spray of lemon 2217 01:40:53,612 --> 01:40:57,133 Speaker 3: and some flowers, I'm with you. That's actually low rent 2218 01:40:57,333 --> 01:41:00,333 Speaker 3: and just go on the original straight up. That is classic. 2219 01:41:01,253 --> 01:41:03,372 Speaker 25: Yes, absolutely don't mess with the original. 2220 01:41:03,692 --> 01:41:05,253 Speaker 3: Chake it on your just thank you very much. 2221 01:41:05,492 --> 01:41:06,972 Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of an apology to make. 2222 01:41:07,013 --> 01:41:09,812 Speaker 2: I was saying before that my mom got cane when 2223 01:41:09,933 --> 01:41:12,333 Speaker 2: she was a kid growing up at in Vicago walking 2224 01:41:12,372 --> 01:41:14,692 Speaker 2: to school and she was attend I say she was 2225 01:41:15,372 --> 01:41:18,372 Speaker 2: attending in the Cargo Girls. It's Southland girls that cane 2226 01:41:18,372 --> 01:41:20,973 Speaker 2: to all those years ago. Okay, so I just want 2227 01:41:21,013 --> 01:41:22,652 Speaker 2: to make sure I get the school that caned my 2228 01:41:22,732 --> 01:41:24,572 Speaker 2: mum for eating on the street, right, I don't want 2229 01:41:24,572 --> 01:41:25,452 Speaker 2: to bespirch their name. 2230 01:41:25,612 --> 01:41:28,013 Speaker 3: Good to correct that one. It is twenty two to four. 2231 01:41:28,093 --> 01:41:32,213 Speaker 3: Back in them though, the issues that affect you, and 2232 01:41:32,372 --> 01:41:33,612 Speaker 3: a bit of fun along the way. 2233 01:41:33,853 --> 01:41:37,572 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four. 2234 01:41:37,772 --> 01:41:38,692 Speaker 2: You've talked, said be. 2235 01:41:39,333 --> 01:41:41,772 Speaker 3: It is a twenty to four Tessa. How are you 2236 01:41:41,853 --> 01:41:42,412 Speaker 3: this afternoon? 2237 01:41:43,572 --> 01:41:43,772 Speaker 1: Hey? 2238 01:41:43,893 --> 01:41:46,093 Speaker 3: Team? How's the going very good? Do you want to 2239 01:41:46,093 --> 01:41:47,173 Speaker 3: talk about classiness? 2240 01:41:48,572 --> 01:41:49,652 Speaker 2: Well, I'm kind of. 2241 01:41:49,732 --> 01:41:52,133 Speaker 27: I had a thought about TV's first of all, because 2242 01:41:52,133 --> 01:41:54,173 Speaker 27: she's talking about all these massive TVs and whatnot, and 2243 01:41:54,253 --> 01:41:56,452 Speaker 27: I remember the little fourteen inch thing as well. But 2244 01:41:56,812 --> 01:41:59,892 Speaker 27: I haven't had a TV in twenty years and since 2245 01:41:59,933 --> 01:42:01,852 Speaker 27: I moved out of home, and when I go into 2246 01:42:01,893 --> 01:42:05,732 Speaker 27: someone's house with a TV on of any kind, it 2247 01:42:05,893 --> 01:42:09,852 Speaker 27: is captivating to the point of frustration, because you're sitting 2248 01:42:09,893 --> 01:42:11,372 Speaker 27: there trying to have a conversation with them, and I 2249 01:42:11,452 --> 01:42:14,892 Speaker 27: don't understand how people, you know, I don't know how 2250 01:42:14,933 --> 01:42:17,053 Speaker 27: to understand how to have them in the background. 2251 01:42:16,772 --> 01:42:19,892 Speaker 2: Just yeah, as if it's not on. Yeah, I agree 2252 01:42:19,973 --> 01:42:22,492 Speaker 2: with a test before that was saying, if you go 2253 01:42:22,572 --> 01:42:25,852 Speaker 2: round to the house to watch the sporting event, or 2254 01:42:25,933 --> 01:42:27,812 Speaker 2: say you've been invited around to watch a movie, maybe 2255 01:42:27,853 --> 01:42:30,572 Speaker 2: a romantic little evening in short, the TV's on. But 2256 01:42:30,692 --> 01:42:34,013 Speaker 2: if you're just coming around and you're talking and you're 2257 01:42:34,013 --> 01:42:36,972 Speaker 2: getting together, you can't have the TV blaring in the background. 2258 01:42:37,133 --> 01:42:39,013 Speaker 12: No, no, no. 2259 01:42:39,173 --> 01:42:41,093 Speaker 27: And people just go about the days relaxing on their 2260 01:42:41,173 --> 01:42:43,692 Speaker 27: days off at the TV in the background too, And yeah, 2261 01:42:43,692 --> 01:42:46,693 Speaker 27: I don't know, I find them really really stimulating. 2262 01:42:46,732 --> 01:42:48,452 Speaker 18: But that's because I'm a bit of a a. 2263 01:42:48,452 --> 01:42:49,892 Speaker 22: Love living apparently. 2264 01:42:50,093 --> 01:42:51,933 Speaker 2: So Tessa, when you say you don't have a television, 2265 01:42:52,053 --> 01:42:57,412 Speaker 2: are you watching Netflix and such on a laptop or 2266 01:42:57,452 --> 01:42:59,093 Speaker 2: you just not watching any television at all? 2267 01:42:59,853 --> 01:43:02,253 Speaker 27: No, that's not really. I got a laptop, but it's 2268 01:43:02,253 --> 01:43:03,133 Speaker 27: a cut down this. 2269 01:43:03,253 --> 01:43:05,253 Speaker 3: I need to use it for something really. 2270 01:43:05,333 --> 01:43:07,452 Speaker 2: And how do you go on social media? You doom 2271 01:43:07,492 --> 01:43:10,812 Speaker 2: scrolling through to your tiktoks and your Instagram or are 2272 01:43:10,853 --> 01:43:12,452 Speaker 2: you are you what? Are you reading a book? 2273 01:43:13,812 --> 01:43:13,972 Speaker 14: Yeah? 2274 01:43:14,053 --> 01:43:14,932 Speaker 17: You're reading books? 2275 01:43:15,013 --> 01:43:15,372 Speaker 18: I don't know. 2276 01:43:17,133 --> 01:43:19,732 Speaker 3: Or might have just lost Tessa there. Yeah, she's she's 2277 01:43:19,812 --> 01:43:21,812 Speaker 3: just such a lad eighte that she's just going up 2278 01:43:21,812 --> 01:43:23,213 Speaker 3: on phones as Well's like. 2279 01:43:23,253 --> 01:43:25,093 Speaker 2: That's it at that point talking to me, she was like, 2280 01:43:25,173 --> 01:43:27,293 Speaker 2: that's it on over phones as well, just having. 2281 01:43:27,133 --> 01:43:29,293 Speaker 3: The tally on and a couple of occasions I'm not 2282 01:43:29,333 --> 01:43:30,852 Speaker 3: going to name and shame here, but when you go 2283 01:43:30,933 --> 01:43:33,772 Speaker 3: around for dinner, but they like to eat early, say, 2284 01:43:34,013 --> 01:43:35,692 Speaker 3: you know, a quarter to six, so you got fifteen 2285 01:43:35,732 --> 01:43:38,052 Speaker 3: minutes before the news comes on, and then they decide 2286 01:43:38,093 --> 01:43:40,172 Speaker 3: to put the news on, and it's kind of awkward 2287 01:43:40,293 --> 01:43:41,933 Speaker 3: sitting there while you meant to be having a bit 2288 01:43:41,973 --> 01:43:45,013 Speaker 3: of a conversation and Simon dello is I'm telling you 2289 01:43:45,333 --> 01:43:45,892 Speaker 3: the news of the. 2290 01:43:45,933 --> 01:43:48,333 Speaker 2: Day greatest Simon Dellaro is around for dinner. But if 2291 01:43:48,372 --> 01:43:50,412 Speaker 2: he's not been invited, then you don't want him there. 2292 01:43:51,013 --> 01:43:54,532 Speaker 2: Now we're just talking about things of the classy guys. 2293 01:43:54,612 --> 01:43:57,372 Speaker 2: Surely cucumber sandwich is a classy right, in which case 2294 01:43:57,372 --> 01:43:59,732 Speaker 2: of gin and tonic with a cucumber and instead of 2295 01:43:59,853 --> 01:44:02,812 Speaker 2: lemon has to be ultra classy. Yeah, I won't hear 2296 01:44:02,933 --> 01:44:04,412 Speaker 2: a bad word about a cucumber sandwich. 2297 01:44:04,452 --> 01:44:06,372 Speaker 3: No me, neither a great sandwich, and I mean it's 2298 01:44:06,372 --> 01:44:08,293 Speaker 3: just a water sandwich. At the end, of the day crunk. 2299 01:44:09,093 --> 01:44:11,013 Speaker 2: How do you feel that? That's what's classy about it? 2300 01:44:11,093 --> 01:44:14,413 Speaker 2: It's so subtle. How do you feel about an asparagus? 2301 01:44:14,532 --> 01:44:14,692 Speaker 12: Role? 2302 01:44:15,093 --> 01:44:15,372 Speaker 4: Love it? 2303 01:44:16,372 --> 01:44:19,852 Speaker 2: That's classy with real butter though real but oh Marge 2304 01:44:19,893 --> 01:44:22,173 Speaker 2: here really ah, I don't have a Marge on expect 2305 01:44:22,372 --> 01:44:24,293 Speaker 2: how much time you got You need Marge to get 2306 01:44:24,333 --> 01:44:27,293 Speaker 2: through it quickly. And I'm talking about the classes. It's 2307 01:44:27,293 --> 01:44:29,173 Speaker 2: got to be on white bread. You can't be having 2308 01:44:29,253 --> 01:44:32,573 Speaker 2: like trying to wrap a piece of vogels around an asparagus. 2309 01:44:32,692 --> 01:44:34,293 Speaker 2: And that asparagus, if you want to be classy, has 2310 01:44:34,333 --> 01:44:35,612 Speaker 2: to come out of a can as well. 2311 01:44:35,652 --> 01:44:37,173 Speaker 3: If they serve it at the Bowls Club, you know 2312 01:44:37,293 --> 01:44:41,933 Speaker 3: it's classy. Hi guys, your discussion around TV and appliances. 2313 01:44:41,973 --> 01:44:44,572 Speaker 3: We have an eighty inch purchase for half price as 2314 01:44:44,612 --> 01:44:47,772 Speaker 3: a floor model. That is our movie room. Have just 2315 01:44:47,933 --> 01:44:50,572 Speaker 3: purchased a top of the line fridge with the built 2316 01:44:50,652 --> 01:44:55,333 Speaker 3: in everything including computer touch screen, classy eight thousand dollars new. 2317 01:44:55,492 --> 01:44:58,452 Speaker 3: We paid four k for it again the floor model, 2318 01:44:58,933 --> 01:45:00,213 Speaker 3: so sucker for a bargain. 2319 01:45:00,293 --> 01:45:02,732 Speaker 2: I like your style there, yeah, so, I mean, if 2320 01:45:02,772 --> 01:45:04,932 Speaker 2: you're trying to be classy and pretentious like this person, 2321 01:45:05,013 --> 01:45:08,172 Speaker 2: that's clearly put this list together. As do you then reveal? 2322 01:45:08,893 --> 01:45:10,973 Speaker 2: Do you do you reveal the deal? Or is that 2323 01:45:11,093 --> 01:45:13,093 Speaker 2: considered ghost? Because if I get a good deal on 2324 01:45:13,213 --> 01:45:15,372 Speaker 2: something and people come around, I'll talk about the deal. Yes, 2325 01:45:15,853 --> 01:45:18,093 Speaker 2: here's my TV, as this person's going and they go, oh, 2326 01:45:18,133 --> 01:45:20,852 Speaker 2: that's impressive. But what's even more pressive impressive is that 2327 01:45:20,893 --> 01:45:21,572 Speaker 2: you've got a deal. 2328 01:45:21,492 --> 01:45:24,213 Speaker 3: On it, like your snig oven that was a floor model, 2329 01:45:24,253 --> 01:45:26,652 Speaker 3: wasn't it. That's right, a tiny little scratch on somewhere 2330 01:45:26,692 --> 01:45:27,652 Speaker 3: that nobody's going to see it. 2331 01:45:28,333 --> 01:45:33,412 Speaker 2: People were talking about the house and this one point 2332 01:45:33,492 --> 01:45:37,173 Speaker 2: two million dollar k on the order house, and I 2333 01:45:37,333 --> 01:45:39,852 Speaker 2: noticed it was a westing House with about one thousand 2334 01:45:39,893 --> 01:45:41,372 Speaker 2: dollars And I said, look, I've got a snag. 2335 01:45:41,612 --> 01:45:43,532 Speaker 3: I love a good deal, but I got a deal 2336 01:45:43,572 --> 01:45:45,652 Speaker 3: on I got the shop floor snig I drove to 2337 01:45:45,692 --> 01:45:47,213 Speaker 3: walk with to pack up a couch. Of course, I 2338 01:45:47,253 --> 01:45:50,013 Speaker 3: love a good deal. Chris, what's your take on this? 2339 01:45:51,093 --> 01:45:51,293 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2340 01:45:51,372 --> 01:45:54,213 Speaker 23: Just about the TV in the I've got the older 2341 01:45:54,452 --> 01:45:58,372 Speaker 23: seventy inch in the lounge. What kids got forty two 2342 01:45:58,492 --> 01:45:59,933 Speaker 23: inch with this PS. 2343 01:45:59,692 --> 01:46:00,452 Speaker 5: Five lis room? 2344 01:46:00,933 --> 01:46:03,212 Speaker 23: And I've got about a fifty inch in my bedroom? 2345 01:46:03,973 --> 01:46:04,013 Speaker 19: What? 2346 01:46:04,812 --> 01:46:07,053 Speaker 23: Yeah, but I'm a bit of a sports freak. Yes, 2347 01:46:07,173 --> 01:46:08,972 Speaker 23: So like what Skuy's done. 2348 01:46:09,013 --> 01:46:11,852 Speaker 5: Now you've got the multi view, so. 2349 01:46:11,973 --> 01:46:14,972 Speaker 23: You can if you want to link up your laptop 2350 01:46:15,093 --> 01:46:18,532 Speaker 23: to the h GMI to the big TV in the lunds, 2351 01:46:18,572 --> 01:46:22,173 Speaker 23: you can have four different sports channels on the one screen. 2352 01:46:23,412 --> 01:46:25,852 Speaker 23: Then you've got the old laptop next year, you know, 2353 01:46:26,652 --> 01:46:29,852 Speaker 23: things just like it's a teck of the screen today. 2354 01:46:30,372 --> 01:46:32,532 Speaker 3: You look, there's a great sport operation you're running. 2355 01:46:32,572 --> 01:46:33,093 Speaker 19: You carry on. 2356 01:46:33,652 --> 01:46:38,452 Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, you're like nothing to do with tav But 2357 01:46:38,572 --> 01:46:40,572 Speaker 23: you know, like when people come around, I'll always have 2358 01:46:40,692 --> 01:46:42,173 Speaker 23: the TV on, but give it on mute. 2359 01:46:43,253 --> 01:46:45,412 Speaker 3: Yeah that's all right, Yeah, but straight. 2360 01:46:46,893 --> 01:46:49,892 Speaker 23: He's still you know, you tell the person you're mid conversation. 2361 01:46:50,412 --> 01:46:51,852 Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm just going to watch the skull kick. 2362 01:46:52,572 --> 01:46:53,692 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you're missing. 2363 01:46:53,772 --> 01:46:53,892 Speaker 4: Though. 2364 01:46:54,173 --> 01:47:00,892 Speaker 2: You need to put a screen in the bathrooms. That crazy, Yeah, yeah, 2365 01:47:01,532 --> 01:47:02,892 Speaker 2: it sounds like you don't go crazy. 2366 01:47:03,013 --> 01:47:04,732 Speaker 3: Just a thirty two inch in the bathrooms all you need. 2367 01:47:04,812 --> 01:47:06,612 Speaker 2: You're essentially running a sports bar there, Chris. 2368 01:47:07,293 --> 01:47:10,812 Speaker 3: I remember some myr appearents had were one of the 2369 01:47:10,893 --> 01:47:13,572 Speaker 3: first people we knew to have Sky television back in 2370 01:47:13,612 --> 01:47:16,692 Speaker 3: the day, and they had just talking about the TV 2371 01:47:16,853 --> 01:47:18,532 Speaker 3: and the bedroom. So they had a fifty inch in 2372 01:47:18,572 --> 01:47:20,732 Speaker 3: the bedroom. We're going back twenty five years now, so 2373 01:47:20,853 --> 01:47:24,652 Speaker 3: sky TV TV in the bedroom and a water beard. 2374 01:47:24,853 --> 01:47:28,293 Speaker 3: To me, when we got to Granddad and Grandma's house, 2375 01:47:28,293 --> 01:47:30,572 Speaker 3: I thought that is the life. They are upper class 2376 01:47:30,612 --> 01:47:31,133 Speaker 3: at that point. 2377 01:47:31,772 --> 01:47:34,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, but so what do you think about this? So 2378 01:47:37,173 --> 01:47:40,052 Speaker 2: people inviting you around to their house and then immediately 2379 01:47:40,093 --> 01:47:43,572 Speaker 2: getting on their phone and looking at social media when 2380 01:47:43,572 --> 01:47:45,372 Speaker 2: you've been invote because I was recently invited around to 2381 01:47:45,412 --> 01:47:48,732 Speaker 2: a house and a massive phone addict. It doesn't matter 2382 01:47:48,772 --> 01:47:50,812 Speaker 2: about it. They didn't have huge televisions at all. Yeah, 2383 01:47:51,093 --> 01:47:53,692 Speaker 2: but immediately on the phone and I'm just standing there 2384 01:47:53,732 --> 01:47:56,253 Speaker 2: while they're talking to someone that doesn't even isn't there. 2385 01:47:56,612 --> 01:47:58,532 Speaker 2: And then I go around the side and I'm like, well, 2386 01:47:59,213 --> 01:48:02,052 Speaker 2: just what would they be looking at? And this person 2387 01:48:02,612 --> 01:48:05,612 Speaker 2: was looking at Instagram? So you've invited me around to 2388 01:48:05,732 --> 01:48:08,213 Speaker 2: your house and then you're such an addict that you're 2389 01:48:08,372 --> 01:48:10,372 Speaker 2: from an entirely different world looking at Instagram? 2390 01:48:10,492 --> 01:48:11,053 Speaker 3: So what were you doing? 2391 01:48:11,772 --> 01:48:14,293 Speaker 2: That to me is much worse than leaving an eighty 2392 01:48:14,333 --> 01:48:16,693 Speaker 2: five inch television on playing Simon. 2393 01:48:16,532 --> 01:48:18,932 Speaker 3: Dallow So it was just you two so you've been 2394 01:48:19,013 --> 01:48:19,932 Speaker 3: invited around to your mates. 2395 01:48:20,372 --> 01:48:21,812 Speaker 2: There was a few other people there, It wasn't just 2396 01:48:21,853 --> 01:48:23,293 Speaker 2: the two of us. That would be super weird. 2397 01:48:23,412 --> 01:48:25,812 Speaker 3: And then you came into the lounge. Maybe you were 2398 01:48:25,853 --> 01:48:26,772 Speaker 3: having a nice drink. 2399 01:48:26,973 --> 01:48:28,933 Speaker 2: That this was in the kitchen there was there was 2400 01:48:29,053 --> 01:48:32,133 Speaker 2: there was drinks being had, and this person is just 2401 01:48:32,452 --> 01:48:38,492 Speaker 2: sitting on on the on the kitchen stool, flicking through Instagram. Yeah, 2402 01:48:38,572 --> 01:48:42,173 Speaker 2: and I thought's rude. I thought that's that's that's that's 2403 01:48:42,333 --> 01:48:43,053 Speaker 2: very very rude. 2404 01:48:43,053 --> 01:48:45,692 Speaker 3: It's a slight restaurant etiquette. Yeah, when you get to 2405 01:48:45,732 --> 01:48:47,572 Speaker 3: the restaurant, if you're there for a dinner party, you 2406 01:48:47,612 --> 01:48:49,492 Speaker 3: are meeting lots of people. Got to leave the phone 2407 01:48:49,492 --> 01:48:52,133 Speaker 3: in the pocket. A couple more texts on this one 2408 01:48:52,173 --> 01:48:54,972 Speaker 3: before we got to take a break. Hi, Tyler and Maddie. 2409 01:48:55,532 --> 01:49:00,053 Speaker 3: There is a perfect word that describes your topic. It's ostentation. 2410 01:49:00,532 --> 01:49:04,812 Speaker 3: It means a vain, ambitious display to impress, to parade, 2411 01:49:05,093 --> 01:49:07,973 Speaker 3: a lot of pomp that may not be in the 2412 01:49:08,053 --> 01:49:12,133 Speaker 3: best taste or style. So yes, there can be quite 2413 01:49:12,173 --> 01:49:16,452 Speaker 3: a bit of ostentation, whereby bigger isn't necessarily better. The 2414 01:49:16,572 --> 01:49:18,572 Speaker 3: G and T However, it's classic and will always be 2415 01:49:18,652 --> 01:49:20,293 Speaker 3: classy from Ali great text. 2416 01:49:20,532 --> 01:49:23,293 Speaker 2: So if you've got an eighty five inch television and 2417 01:49:24,053 --> 01:49:27,452 Speaker 2: and it's purely because you love sport or you love movies, 2418 01:49:27,652 --> 01:49:30,572 Speaker 2: and that's what you're using it for, then that's practical. 2419 01:49:30,612 --> 01:49:33,293 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that's ostentatious. But if you 2420 01:49:33,532 --> 01:49:36,052 Speaker 2: have an eighty five inch television to invite people around 2421 01:49:36,412 --> 01:49:38,133 Speaker 2: to point at it and go look at the size 2422 01:49:38,133 --> 01:49:42,533 Speaker 2: of my television, then then that's probably tending towards ostentation. 2423 01:49:43,053 --> 01:49:44,732 Speaker 3: But why wouldn't you. I mean, if you've got an 2424 01:49:44,772 --> 01:49:47,213 Speaker 3: eighty five inch Telly that you've just bought, you're really 2425 01:49:47,253 --> 01:49:50,253 Speaker 3: proud of it, the Samsung frame, of course you'd be saying, 2426 01:49:50,772 --> 01:49:52,053 Speaker 3: look at this bad boy. 2427 01:49:52,173 --> 01:49:54,572 Speaker 2: Invite people around on a Friday night to see your television, 2428 01:49:56,053 --> 01:49:58,333 Speaker 2: not to watch the television. It's just to be an 2429 01:49:58,372 --> 01:49:59,852 Speaker 2: are of your television size. 2430 01:49:59,973 --> 01:50:02,972 Speaker 3: Yeah, eight ten eight, We'll have time for a couple 2431 01:50:03,053 --> 01:50:04,692 Speaker 3: more calls. It is tender four. 2432 01:50:06,812 --> 01:50:10,093 Speaker 1: Showing of it for a duplicy Allen drive. 2433 01:50:10,372 --> 01:50:12,372 Speaker 2: When you're run from the election. We delivered the government's 2434 01:50:12,412 --> 01:50:12,932 Speaker 2: first report. 2435 01:50:13,013 --> 01:50:15,612 Speaker 28: Can't Finance Minister Nikola Willis is with us after six 2436 01:50:16,133 --> 01:50:18,933 Speaker 28: Another Australian bank boss has called for more taxes. This 2437 01:50:19,053 --> 01:50:21,173 Speaker 28: time it's the boss of ASB who reckons we need 2438 01:50:21,213 --> 01:50:23,412 Speaker 28: more taxes to pay for our infrastructure issues. Plus, I'm 2439 01:50:23,412 --> 01:50:24,532 Speaker 28: going to tell you about the book I read on 2440 01:50:24,572 --> 01:50:26,692 Speaker 28: holiday that's changed everything for me. 2441 01:50:28,492 --> 01:50:32,053 Speaker 1: Getting the answers you deserve either duplicy Ellen Drive with 2442 01:50:32,333 --> 01:50:35,453 Speaker 1: One New Zealand Next on NEWSB. 2443 01:50:35,133 --> 01:50:36,093 Speaker 3: It is eight to four. 2444 01:50:36,412 --> 01:50:39,173 Speaker 2: So we're talking about this guy William Hanson. That's he's 2445 01:50:39,253 --> 01:50:41,893 Speaker 2: made a list of things that mean you're common, and 2446 01:50:42,492 --> 01:50:44,652 Speaker 2: a lot of them. I don't agree with liquid soap, 2447 01:50:44,973 --> 01:50:47,812 Speaker 2: he says makes you common. Not there's anything wrong at all. 2448 01:50:48,013 --> 01:50:49,973 Speaker 2: I mean the first question here, William Hanson, what's wrong 2449 01:50:50,013 --> 01:50:53,813 Speaker 2: with being common? But I guess there's someone pointed out ostentatious. 2450 01:50:54,372 --> 01:50:56,772 Speaker 2: He's listed liquid soap here as one of the things, 2451 01:50:56,812 --> 01:51:00,213 Speaker 2: and I think liquid soap is impressive. I see someone's 2452 01:51:00,253 --> 01:51:02,333 Speaker 2: got liquid soap, especially if they've brought a little pumper 2453 01:51:02,412 --> 01:51:04,973 Speaker 2: for it. I think that's that's flash because you're going 2454 01:51:04,973 --> 01:51:07,732 Speaker 2: to the effort to refill it. You and I know 2455 01:51:07,893 --> 01:51:12,732 Speaker 2: that I classy now. And this caused a little problem 2456 01:51:12,772 --> 01:51:17,052 Speaker 2: of my house yesterday actually because my lovely partner, Tracy, 2457 01:51:17,572 --> 01:51:22,972 Speaker 2: she keeps tissues. A box of tissues on the kitchen bench, right, yep, 2458 01:51:23,133 --> 01:51:24,572 Speaker 2: not far from the oven, just in case you need. 2459 01:51:24,853 --> 01:51:27,012 Speaker 3: This is on the island, So so this is separate 2460 01:51:27,053 --> 01:51:27,852 Speaker 3: to the island that you've got. 2461 01:51:28,253 --> 01:51:30,333 Speaker 2: This isn't on the island, okay, right, this is over 2462 01:51:30,412 --> 01:51:31,692 Speaker 2: by the oven near the knive. 2463 01:51:31,893 --> 01:51:32,652 Speaker 3: We've got your kettle. 2464 01:51:33,053 --> 01:51:34,133 Speaker 2: The kettle's on the other side. 2465 01:51:34,173 --> 01:51:34,572 Speaker 3: Tilert ok. 2466 01:51:34,973 --> 01:51:36,572 Speaker 2: Ok, you know what you're talking about. The kettles on 2467 01:51:36,572 --> 01:51:37,972 Speaker 2: the completely on the other side. 2468 01:51:38,293 --> 01:51:38,852 Speaker 3: How dare me? 2469 01:51:39,853 --> 01:51:43,053 Speaker 2: But this it annoyed me, these tissues there, because you've 2470 01:51:43,053 --> 01:51:45,572 Speaker 2: already got You've already got the towels, the handy towels there. 2471 01:51:45,652 --> 01:51:47,692 Speaker 3: Oh, so you've got paper towels on a proper You've got. 2472 01:51:47,652 --> 01:51:49,452 Speaker 2: The paper towels. They're they're fine. 2473 01:51:49,452 --> 01:51:51,812 Speaker 3: But there's also changes everything the tissues here. 2474 01:51:51,853 --> 01:51:53,253 Speaker 2: So I'm like, why do we need both these things? 2475 01:51:53,293 --> 01:51:55,652 Speaker 2: And this box of tissues that was eating me alive. 2476 01:51:56,412 --> 01:51:58,293 Speaker 2: There was something about it, just sitting there, this box 2477 01:51:58,333 --> 01:52:01,452 Speaker 2: of tissues. So I went yesterday and I don't know 2478 01:52:01,492 --> 01:52:04,012 Speaker 2: what happened to me. I wasn't really thinking. I lost 2479 01:52:04,053 --> 01:52:06,732 Speaker 2: my mind and I went and bought a tissue hold 2480 01:52:06,933 --> 01:52:08,852 Speaker 2: box that goes over it's like a it's like a 2481 01:52:08,933 --> 01:52:10,732 Speaker 2: thing that sits over it, and it looks kind of 2482 01:52:10,812 --> 01:52:11,892 Speaker 2: like a house from Monopoly. 2483 01:52:12,093 --> 01:52:13,772 Speaker 3: Oh, it's like a doiley for tissues. 2484 01:52:13,812 --> 01:52:14,412 Speaker 2: It's not a dole. 2485 01:52:15,532 --> 01:52:19,333 Speaker 3: A doiley is a very was it felt. It's not felm. 2486 01:52:20,093 --> 01:52:23,732 Speaker 2: It's it's it's plastic and it's white and it's and 2487 01:52:23,853 --> 01:52:25,973 Speaker 2: it fits in with the decor of the kitchen, and 2488 01:52:26,492 --> 01:52:28,452 Speaker 2: it looks like a little house. And the tissues stick 2489 01:52:28,492 --> 01:52:30,412 Speaker 2: out the little chimney at the top. It looks like 2490 01:52:30,612 --> 01:52:33,892 Speaker 2: it's like a little fires burning in the little tissue thing. 2491 01:52:34,053 --> 01:52:34,652 Speaker 3: That's trashy. 2492 01:52:34,772 --> 01:52:37,532 Speaker 2: And Tracy goes to me. She was quite annoyed. She 2493 01:52:37,572 --> 01:52:38,932 Speaker 2: didn't say anything for a while, and she goes, there's 2494 01:52:38,933 --> 01:52:40,492 Speaker 2: these things that annoy you, don't you, and you just 2495 01:52:40,532 --> 01:52:43,093 Speaker 2: can't let them sit. Because I said, she actually saw 2496 01:52:43,133 --> 01:52:45,333 Speaker 2: the shopping list, and on the shopping list, I said 2497 01:52:45,412 --> 01:52:48,812 Speaker 2: something to cover up Tracy's punishing tissue box. I'd actually 2498 01:52:48,812 --> 01:52:50,852 Speaker 2: put it on the shopping list, and she saw that, 2499 01:52:51,253 --> 01:52:52,812 Speaker 2: and then I went off forgot it and I put 2500 01:52:52,853 --> 01:52:54,093 Speaker 2: it on there, and I was so happy. I was 2501 01:52:54,093 --> 01:52:56,652 Speaker 2: actually standing back looking at it, feeling happy that the 2502 01:52:56,732 --> 01:53:01,253 Speaker 2: kitchen was looking nice and organized with clean lines, and 2503 01:53:01,372 --> 01:53:04,732 Speaker 2: you couldn't see the punishing tissue box. And she said 2504 01:53:04,893 --> 01:53:05,852 Speaker 2: you had to do it, didn't you. 2505 01:53:06,973 --> 01:53:10,972 Speaker 3: Wor Kleenex know they're doing. There's already beautiful floral patterns 2506 01:53:11,053 --> 01:53:12,293 Speaker 3: on them. 2507 01:53:12,372 --> 01:53:14,372 Speaker 2: I don't want the floral pattern there's too much. I 2508 01:53:14,532 --> 01:53:18,173 Speaker 2: just wanted the nice clinical I want my kitchen to 2509 01:53:18,372 --> 01:53:21,492 Speaker 2: look like you could you could perform surgery in there. 2510 01:53:22,253 --> 01:53:24,812 Speaker 3: Text has just come through. You've lost the plot, Matt, 2511 01:53:24,893 --> 01:53:29,093 Speaker 3: I agree, absolutely right. A couple of texts to wrap up, guys, 2512 01:53:29,173 --> 01:53:32,812 Speaker 3: remember the old pie TV off the eighties p y e. 2513 01:53:33,772 --> 01:53:36,372 Speaker 3: The big wooden box with the tuban side, probably eighteen 2514 01:53:36,492 --> 01:53:39,732 Speaker 3: or twenty inch, watching Muppet Babies or Fraggle Rock on 2515 01:53:39,812 --> 01:53:41,372 Speaker 3: a Saturday morning Good Times. 2516 01:53:41,253 --> 01:53:43,812 Speaker 2: TV's used to look like parts of furniture. They had 2517 01:53:43,812 --> 01:53:45,732 Speaker 2: a wooden box around them. Some of them even had 2518 01:53:46,133 --> 01:53:48,532 Speaker 2: doors that you opened up on them to the TV. 2519 01:53:48,853 --> 01:53:51,972 Speaker 2: This is another interesting text, Tyler. You were talking about 2520 01:53:51,973 --> 01:53:55,053 Speaker 2: your grandparents before in their room. This text around ninet 2521 01:53:55,053 --> 01:53:57,133 Speaker 2: two nine two says massive TV in the bedroom and 2522 01:53:57,213 --> 01:53:59,533 Speaker 2: a big water bed, sounding a lot like your grandparents 2523 01:53:59,812 --> 01:54:01,772 Speaker 2: were swingers, Tyler. 2524 01:54:03,013 --> 01:54:04,852 Speaker 3: I mean they had a sunken lounge and. 2525 01:54:06,532 --> 01:54:09,333 Speaker 2: I mean, who am I to just shag pile? But yeah, yeah, 2526 01:54:09,372 --> 01:54:09,692 Speaker 2: I mean it. 2527 01:54:09,772 --> 01:54:11,452 Speaker 3: Was the eighties, so you know that was the style 2528 01:54:11,492 --> 01:54:11,892 Speaker 3: at the time. 2529 01:54:12,013 --> 01:54:13,293 Speaker 2: They have a big key bowl as. 2530 01:54:13,213 --> 01:54:17,013 Speaker 3: Well, Tyler and Matt. Hoskin was bragging about getting a 2531 01:54:17,053 --> 01:54:20,372 Speaker 3: new humongous TV last week. It sounds like he was 2532 01:54:20,412 --> 01:54:23,572 Speaker 3: compensating for something. John, We're I'm going to break over those. 2533 01:54:23,893 --> 01:54:26,133 Speaker 3: Hoskin is a good man, he's tidy. 2534 01:54:26,293 --> 01:54:28,532 Speaker 2: He's not common. There's nothing common about Hosking. 2535 01:54:29,532 --> 01:54:32,373 Speaker 3: Right, Thank you very much for today some good discussion. 2536 01:54:32,573 --> 01:54:34,373 Speaker 3: And by the way, we're going to have our first 2537 01:54:34,413 --> 01:54:35,932 Speaker 3: podcast up very shortly. 2538 01:54:36,093 --> 01:54:38,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, with a special bespoke intro on the 2539 01:54:39,093 --> 01:54:42,653 Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast on iHeartRadio or ever get 2540 01:54:42,653 --> 01:54:43,132 Speaker 2: your pods. 2541 01:54:43,213 --> 01:54:45,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, Heather coming up next. Have a great rest of 2542 01:54:46,053 --> 01:54:49,253 Speaker 3: your Monday night. We will see you again tomorrow. 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