1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. Jonathan cares the US correspondence, But 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: that's hello, Jonathan, Hea. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: They are always good to talk to you and the listeners. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan, What did you take away from the Trump CARTI meeting. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think an extraordinary change of attitude. Realistically, this 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: looked like two men who were very comfortable in each 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: other's company. It was all very positive, It was all 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: very light. Gone was the sort of serious, semi serious 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: talk from the American President about Canada becoming the fifty 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: first state. There was one brief joke mentioned you played 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: that he wanted to be a great man too comment. 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: It was all relatively jovial. I mean, the toughest material 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: came when Donald Trump was actually asked domestic questions about 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: the government shutdown and issues along that line. Between the 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: two of them, well, it seemed to be quite warm, 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: quite cozy, and I think, you know, you've got Australia's 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: Prime minister heading over for his first meeting with the 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: American President in a couple of weeks time. It might 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: start to set a better tone for how this American 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: president is going to start treating more traditional American allies. 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: But this is Donald Trump, so watch this space. But 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: certainly a much warmer tone between Donald Trump and McCartney today. 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: How's Chicago feeling, Yeah, I think. 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: Chicago's pretty much going to be on edge. And there's 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: another two hundred National Guard I've been sent in from 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: Texas who finally made their way into Illinois. They were 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: flown in last night, made their way into a military 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: training facility this morning. They are now on the ground 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: in Chicago. The key issue now is going to be 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: how this city responds over the next forty eight hours, 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: because they've been told unless they can seriously get a 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: hold on crime in Illinois, and already we've seen the 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: state there try and sue the Trump administration and stop 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: this move from happening. They haven't been successful. The Texas 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: National Guard is going in and you could well see 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: protests kick up again outside immigration facilities over the course 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: of the next forty eight hours. And then you go 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: keep an eye on Portland too. I mean Donald Trump's 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: had efforts blocked there to try and get the National 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: Guard in. Christy nome Is Homeland Security Secretary tonight was 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: saying that she's prepared to send more enforcement Immigration enforcement 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: agents in to surround the building. So this is a 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: real measure of force from the Trump administration and they 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: need to watch this base closely. They are democratic cities 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: and things could heat up there. Now. 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: Are you as surprised as I was to see Tayte 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: having to go on the late night TV and howker wares? 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: You wouldn't have thought that somebody with as many Instagram 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: followers and the large bank account as she has really 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: needs to do that in order to sell an album. 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: But clearly she wants to get out and try and 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: push herself to a fan. She went on the Graham 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: Norton Show in the United Kingdom. It is Seth Myers tonight. 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: It was Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show last night 56 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: in an extraordinary, relatively open interview. If you like her, 57 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: I suppose a lot of what she's saying now is 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: largely repetitive. She's talking a lot about the engagement I 59 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: love for Travis Kelsey, how she's never been happier in 60 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: her entire existence, but very much pushing her wares on 61 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: this album. I think it's a very interesting strategy. Clearly 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: she must think that her fans want to see her 63 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: and want to hear from her other than just Instagram 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: posts and the album itself, so she's certainly making this 65 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: a very very public push, even talking about supposed speculation 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: that was around that she had rejected a deal to 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 2: sing at the Super Bowl because of a dispute over 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: the ownership of the television footage, essentially saying, look, it's 69 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: not a no, it's just a no now because she's 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: more interested in watching a fiance play American football. So 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: it's a watch this space on that front. But yeah, 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think it's very interesting that 73 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: you've got the world's biggest pop star doing the late 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: night TV rounds pushing this album as much as she is. 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I know you're a big swifty. Are you enjoying the album? 76 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I know you're a big Swifty too. I think it's 77 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: last week off to go and listen to it as well. 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: I think we were exchanging mental messages over the course 79 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: of the Pacific Ocean on our feedback on the album. 80 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: I had listened to it last week. Look, it's interesting. 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: I think there's a few songs there that even the 82 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: Swiss might think, oh maybe this one not so keen 83 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: on certainly some of the die hard Swifties. I've spoken 84 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: to her a little bit up in arms about a 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: few of them, but she clearly has her eyes set 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: on trying to make something a little bit different. There's 87 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: a bit of a hark back to some of her 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: older stuff, and she's a little bit racier with some 89 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: of the newest stuff, particularly songs that are supposedly around 90 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey. But hey, look she seems happy. And who 91 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: can deny love? Who can deny happiness? More happiness we 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: have in the world, I think the better the post. 93 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: Oh You make Me suck? Jonathan, thank you very much, 94 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it and enjoy the album. Jonathan Kursley, US correspondent. 95 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: I was asking Jonathan because the spin off, they've got 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: two of their senior journalists, Lyric and Alex, who are 97 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out why is that Taylor Swift's new 98 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: album kind of sucks, And it's because she sounds so 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: bitter apparently so not everybody loves it. 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