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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spence to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Or it's Ryan Bridge on Heather duper c Allen Drive

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Speaker 1: with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be good. Afternoon seven after four Friday. Simon Watt's

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Speaker 3: on Wellington Water. What information can the Commerce Commission actually

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Speaker 3: The editor of The Australian on the election over there

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Speaker 3: and should we be using their electoral system? The key

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Speaker 3: We TV show that's off to the bathts. We'll check

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Speaker 3: in on the King's health over in the UK. Nick

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Speaker 3: Burley and Andrew Alderson on the Sports Huddle this afternoon too.

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Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Chris Hopkins. He's got a bit of a swagger

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Speaker 3: of a man feeling pretty confident, feeling pretty good, feeling

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Speaker 3: and you usually starved of sunshine like a mushroom, well

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Speaker 3: the pale version of Trump last week, remember that this

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Speaker 3: week it was friendly fire with Tamotha Pool's comments. He

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Speaker 3: And the reason's pretty obvious. He's worried what your average

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Speaker 3: Crime is still in your top five concerns. Remember it

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Speaker 3: who would do a better one, Tamotha Paul Bridge nine

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Speaker 3: Eden Park. So the ball is in the government's court now.

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Speaker 3: The council's made its decision. They have ticked the Eden

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Speaker 3: So what does the government say. David Seymour is with us.

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Speaker 3: He's the act party leader also Associate Minister of Finance.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Hey Ryan, Yeah, good to have you on

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Speaker 3: the show. Now I've got the statement from Simeon Brown.

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Speaker 3: It sounds to me like a polite no thanks to

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Speaker 5: Everyone's a bit short of money, including the government. We're

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Speaker 5: Look, I think one of the things I'd be asking

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Speaker 3: It's a very deep answer. I didn't quite expect that

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Speaker 5: Well, we runs a bit stual in some ways. If

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Speaker 3: Hey, do you think it's odd that this proposal from

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Speaker 5: No, I haven't, because it's a proposal from them that,

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time, David Seymour, the Associate Finance Minister.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's a polite no from the government. Fourteen minutes after

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Speaker 3: four What News Talks HEVB Jason Pine.

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Speaker 2: Next, it's the Heather Dupers Allen Drive Full Show.

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Speaker 3: News Talks ZB. It is sixteen minutes after four. Ryan,

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Speaker 3: this is on the idea that Chris Hipkins should rule

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Speaker 3: out working with or having TAMOTHA Paul as his police

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Speaker 3: what a ridiculous assertion to make the Greens, regardless of

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Speaker 3: coalition agreements, will not be Minister of Police. That's exactly

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Speaker 3: the strong language and say it's a dumb idea, it's

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Speaker 3: a stupid idea language he doesn't normally use, and certainly

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Speaker 3: not something you'd use against, you know, friendly fire. Why

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Speaker 3: hosts Hey Jason, Hey Ryan, good to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Now it's official about Liam Lawson and a lot of

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Speaker 9: feeding back on myself here, so I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 3: That's right. We'll come back to you once it's sort

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Speaker 3: of Jason, no need to worry about that. We'll come

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Speaker 3: we've got the Czech issue sort it. Eighteen minutes. There's

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Speaker 3: so hard to concentrate. Eighteen minutes after four, I was reading,

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Speaker 3: our conversation. And I thought, are we unfairly maligning or

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Speaker 10: That's oh, thank you right. You're asking about whether it

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Speaker 10: had enough races. I think the answer is no. He

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Speaker 10: for Max the staff and any better than Leam Lawson.

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Speaker 10: Can I stand to be corrected? He might prove me

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Speaker 10: wrong in Japan next week. But yeah, really poor poor

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Speaker 3: Is it a short term decision? Do you think? Like

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Speaker 3: are they thinking about the long term? Because there's the

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean who knows that. Look, if that's the case,

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Speaker 10: we'll chop and change in and out. They have to

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Speaker 10: that's what this is. And Liam will drive in the

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Speaker 3: This sounds good, Jason, Thank you, Jason Pine week in

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Speaker 3: to some of your texts next. Plus the rule that

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Speaker 3: And I can see why. We'll get to that next.

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Speaker 2: Getting the facts discarding the fluff.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither Duplice Ellen drive with one

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Speaker 3: Four twenty four Ryan. Interesting to note Liam Lawson he

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Speaker 3: But the other day at my place, so I left

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 11: You can just bring the more inside, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Good, bring them more insight. That's another option, another option.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for that.

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Speaker 1: Ends puting the challenging questions to the people. At the

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Speaker 1: c Allen Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected

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Speaker 1: and news talk sa'd be just my song.

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Speaker 3: So get afternoon. It's twenty five away from five years talks.

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Speaker 3: We need to sign and Wat's the local government minister.

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Speaker 3: After five o'clock on the ComCom looking into Wellington water

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Speaker 3: Their turnout is ninety percent, which is pretty interesting when

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Speaker 3: But I was thinking in relation to our local government

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 3: So I just wonder whether there is potentially something we

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Speaker 3: Nine the number of text by the way, all the

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Speaker 3: victim blaming that's going on with my lawnmower. So someone

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Speaker 3: I don't have to hence I'm the victim twenty four

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news dogs. He'd drive.

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Speaker 3: So the Australians are heading to the polls on the

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Speaker 13: In uncertain times, we cannot decide the challenges that we

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Speaker 3: King has canceled some engagements because of the issues worth

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Speaker 3: his cancer treatment. He had to go to hospital after

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Speaker 14: Here's a Royal correspondent, a bump in the road, but

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Speaker 14: to frame it here. They're very keen to stress that,

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Speaker 3: We'll check them with Juliet Ryodan after five point thirty

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Speaker 3: four an update on his condition. Finally, this afternoon, mel

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Speaker 3: We should do that here. Yankee Stadium and New York

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of mind

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Speaker 3: There we go, now, Donald Trump, sorry, I judge has

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Speaker 3: Now we've had cuts to the Education Department for the

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Speaker 8: This is a pretty big reduction. It's like a twenty

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Speaker 8: Too many, would be my answer as a parent of

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Speaker 8: to fifty percent of these parents who will let to

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Speaker 8: sacrifice their future financial plans if it means helping out

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Speaker 8: their grown up kids. In every financial expert that you

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Speaker 8: to talk to will or should say the number one

437
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Speaker 8: thing you don't want to do is to dip into

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Speaker 8: your savings, make your college kid take out a loan

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Speaker 8: of they have to get an extra job. They have

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Speaker 8: time to make up that extra money. But you are

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Speaker 8: somebody in their forties, fifties or sixties don't have time

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Speaker 8: to make up that extra money that you're saving for retiring.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot of money. Who pays for their kids,

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Speaker 3: their adult child's vacation? That's an ourtis Dan, I don't know.

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Speaker 15: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Ryoant not mine.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Thank you for that, and happy birthday. I hope

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Speaker 3: you have a good one. Dan Mitchison, who's our US correspondent.

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Speaker 3: It is eighteen minutes away from five. Honestly, my parents

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Speaker 3: didn't even pay for my vacations when I was at home, littlelone.

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Speaker 3: When I grew up and became a real adult. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: does anyone do that for their children? Seriously? Eighteen hundred dollars?

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Speaker 3: Did you say a fortnight? Eighteen hundred dollars a fortnight

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Speaker 3: for an adult and you're paying for their cell phone

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Speaker 3: bills and you're paying for their holidays. No, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be doing that. Eighteen to five Verry sopernext.

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Speaker 1: Politics was Centrics credit check your customers and get payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: Quart it to five News Talks. Here be Barry Soper.

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Speaker 3: Here this afternoon, Hey Berry, Good afternoon, Ryan, how good,

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Speaker 3: thank you. Now should we be able to get rid

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Speaker 3: of and how would we go about getting rid of

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Speaker 3: a prime minister if they had lost their marbles?

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Speaker 6: Well quite easily, really, just hatch a coup and get

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Speaker 6: rid of them. I'm mean, a caucus can get rid

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Speaker 6: of the prime minister. But this is research that's been done.

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Speaker 6: And they looked at four New Zealand prime ministers. They were,

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Speaker 6: you know, Michael Joseph Savage when he served between thirty

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Speaker 6: five and forty, Norman Kirk, who of course was the

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Speaker 6: leader in seventy two to seventy four when he died.

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Speaker 6: The third was Joseph Ford. Finally, the one that to

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Speaker 6: me is well, the one that I knew and is

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Speaker 6: more interesting. They didn't look at ill necessarily ill health.

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Speaker 6: They looked at his problem with a bottle, and there

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Speaker 6: was no doubt that Rob Muldoon in his final years

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Speaker 6: had a significant problem with the bottle. I'll give you

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Speaker 6: just one example. I remember on the Thursday night before

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Speaker 6: the poll in the eighty four snap election, which was

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Speaker 6: known by many as the Snap's election for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 6: But I said to Muldoon, can I come and interview

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Speaker 6: you after you've finished your wind up speech here in Auckland,

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Speaker 6: and he said, ay, come up to my hotel room.

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Speaker 6: An hour after I finished speaking. Well, I got up

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Speaker 6: to his hotel room, which was the old South Pacific.

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Speaker 6: He was slumped in a chair. There was an empty

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Speaker 6: wine bottle lying on its side, and I gin inflected

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Speaker 6: in front of him, put the microphone up to his

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Speaker 6: mouth and said, do you think you've won the election,

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Speaker 6: Prime Minister? And he went nope. No, he didn't say nap.

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Speaker 6: He shook his head and I said radio, Prime Minister,

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Speaker 6: do you think you've won the election? He said nope,

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Speaker 6: and he went on how he had lost it.

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Speaker 16: Well.

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Speaker 6: The next morning, at we were going to air with

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Speaker 6: it that Muldoon had conceded defeat, he held a news

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Speaker 6: conference at about eight in the morning, denying all knowledge

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Speaker 6: of it. And I went, well, hang on, I was

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Speaker 6: sitting in the front row. It's going to weir now,

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Speaker 6: prime Minister. So you know, that's an example, I guess

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Speaker 6: of a prime minister being out of control. And that

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Speaker 6: was just one little vignette of many many instances that

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Speaker 6: I witnessed with Muldoon in the four years that I

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Speaker 6: worked in the gallery when he was the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: In part fascinating story Berry by the way, in part

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Speaker 3: and what we just had David Seymour on He's yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love politely saying no, we're not giving you any money.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, one hundred and ten million is going

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Speaker 6: to cost to I guess put on a retractable roof

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Speaker 6: and increase the seating and create a pedestrian promenade. Incidentally,

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Speaker 6: I think the council made exactly the right decision. These

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Speaker 6: pretty pictures that you can see down on the waterfront

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Speaker 6: look fantastic, but between that and the realization of seeing

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Speaker 6: the actual actual structure is going to be much more

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Speaker 6: than the billion dollars that they were saying it was

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Speaker 6: going to cost. This is what one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Unless they can get good business backing, and they've got

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Speaker 6: a pretty strong board, the Eden Park Board. They're not

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Speaker 6: going to get government money in the short term, there's

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Speaker 6: no doubt about that. But I think the Council have

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Speaker 6: made the right decision. It was an overwhelming decision, only

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Speaker 6: two dissenters. I think Eden Park had to be it.

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Speaker 6: And don't forget that this is going to be Rail

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Speaker 6: enabled in a very short time. And the biggest criticism

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Speaker 6: I think of people that go to and from Eden

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Speaker 6: Park is actually getting from it after an event. You

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Speaker 6: can pay a lot of money in a taxi to

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Speaker 6: get a very short distance, but rail hopefully will overcome

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Speaker 6: that problem. But it's a wonderful venue and we saw

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Speaker 6: it used what four times in the last week for

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Speaker 6: big events, and I've been to several concerts there. It's

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Speaker 6: phenomenal and you know, even the residents are on board,

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Speaker 6: with the exception of one perhaps Helen Clark.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's actually quite interesting how they've turned that around.

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Speaker 3: They've turned the local residents around, and they clean up

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Speaker 3: after themselves and they've totally changed the vibe for the

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Speaker 3: local neighborhood.

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Speaker 6: So well, I think that's got a lot to do

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Speaker 6: with the chief executive thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now these supermarkets are we are you expecting big

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Speaker 3: things on Sunday?

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Speaker 6: Well, I would have loved to have said, yes, there's

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Speaker 6: going to be a third player announced on Sunday, because

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Speaker 6: don't think that we had that investment conference and maybe

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Speaker 6: somebody was there and they said we would like to

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Speaker 6: open a supermarket chain in your country. No, they're not

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Speaker 6: going to announced on Sunday. What you'll see on Sunday

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Speaker 6: is basically the process that the government will enable to

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Speaker 6: get a third player into the market here to make

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Speaker 6: it easier for a third player to start up. And

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Speaker 6: one can only hope that that happens in the fairly

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Speaker 6: short term because the duopoly, as we've seen, hasn't worked.

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Speaker 6: It's not competitive. Prices are too high at the supermarkets,

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Speaker 6: and a bit of competition is exact what it needs.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, as somebody is pointing out, and I didn't want.

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Speaker 3: But the one hundred million dollars is just for stage one.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't even get you the wrong that just gets

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Speaker 3: you the seating of changes. Then the stage two, This

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Speaker 3: is the PPP that gets you your accommodation. Stage three

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Speaker 3: under the PPP is the roof. I mean, honestly, oh well,

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Speaker 3: thank you for that.

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Speaker 6: Listener.

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Speaker 3: It's from Peter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, got on your pete.

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Speaker 3: Another one asked, and I actually wondered about this the

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Speaker 3: other day. We've got one minute, but are you going

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Speaker 3: to Is Barry going to write a book? I'd love

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Speaker 3: to read it. I wanted the same thing the other day, Barry.

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, I'm in the proceeds.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 6: So a publisher has approached me about five years ago

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Speaker 6: of equivocated equivocated to quivocated, and I finally agreed. So

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Speaker 6: the timetime.

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Speaker 3: Future, you'll have to mend your finger before you write

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Speaker 3: a book. I still right. Well, there you go. You've

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Speaker 3: got the scoop whoever that was texting, and thank you

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Speaker 3: for that news talk sep It is nine to.

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Speaker 1: Five Saturday, the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 18: There's no one in New Zealand that believes Mike Hosking

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Speaker 18: hasn't had a perm look straight up, and now here's

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Speaker 18: a couple of things. I've never done anything to myself

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Speaker 18: based on the very simple premise that once you do

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Speaker 18: something to yourself, it requires a level of maintenance.

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Speaker 3: Are we still talking about here?

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Speaker 18: Well no, I've brought them it out to anything, but

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Speaker 18: I've never done anything to myself in terms of I've

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Speaker 18: had no botox. A lot of people accuse me of

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Speaker 18: botox because I'm so good looking. I've never dyed my hair,

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Speaker 18: and a lot of people accused me of dying the hair,

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Speaker 18: especially when I was on television. That was just like,

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Speaker 18: I've never died in my hair, couldn't be bothered. And

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Speaker 18: I've never had a perm because it couldn't be bothered

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Speaker 18: doing that either. And I've never had a breast enhancement

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Speaker 18: because that's just trouble. Basically, what you see is what

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Speaker 18: you get back. Monday from six am the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 18: Breakfast with the Rain drove of the last news.

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Speaker 3: Talk z B. It is six minutes away from five

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Speaker 3: on Newstalk ZIDB. Someone really should tell Mike that he

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Speaker 3: needs work. I don't know why he's bragging about not

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Speaker 3: getting it. Lots of text coming in on on the

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Speaker 3: Eden Park, lots of texts coming in on Liam Lawson,

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Speaker 3: and lots of texts for people who are also outraged

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Speaker 3: about a local council telling you that your fence on

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Speaker 3: the front of your house can only be so high.

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Speaker 3: In Auckland it's one point four meters and council has

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Speaker 3: been going around checking to make sure.

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Speaker 16: Ryan.

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Speaker 3: We had to spend fifty thousand dollars. This is somebody

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Speaker 3: else on a chimney problem in Auckland had to spend

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Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars to build a fake chimney on a

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Speaker 3: house where less than half the houses have chimneys on

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Speaker 3: a street where less than half the houses have chimneys

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Speaker 3: because the council employee liked chimneys. They threatened us with

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Speaker 3: court action and one thousand dollars per day fines until

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Speaker 3: we built it. When we met with the council lawyers,

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Speaker 3: they scoffed at us and said, usually people who complained

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Speaker 3: to the council are doctors and lawyers, syspen lots of

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Speaker 3: people who have had problems with counsel. Never really, if

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Speaker 3: they say something, you just do it because it's easy.

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Speaker 3: Who wants to pay for a lawyer and fight all

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Speaker 3: of that, right, That's just how you deal with something

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Speaker 3: that It's just gone four minutes away from five after five,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk to the editor of the Australian

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Speaker 3: newspaper over there. Albanezi has set a date finally, it

624
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Speaker 3: is going to be maybe the third and he's going

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Speaker 3: to go to the polls and Dustin is ready for

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Speaker 3: a fight. They're both ready for a fight. To be fair,

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Speaker 3: interesting the way that the votes happen over there, the

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Speaker 3: fact that it's mandatory, the fact that it's compulsory voting

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Speaker 3: gets you to ninety percent. People say that makes the

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Speaker 3: politics a lot more a measured over in Australia, and

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Speaker 3: I wonder whether people actually think that's true. So we'll

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Speaker 3: talk about that.

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Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure you get a sausage sizzle as well,

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Speaker 11: don't your own. They always talk about their democracy sausage

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Speaker 11: like at the polling place, they'll do like a sausage

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Speaker 11: sis le. So I think we'd probably get better out

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Speaker 11: even if you just did that.

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Speaker 3: Did a singer. The other thing is the fine for

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Speaker 3: not voting is actually only twenty dollars, So the fact

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Speaker 3: that they get ninety percent with a fine of twenty

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Speaker 3: dollars is pretty increesive and it basically just ingrains it.

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Speaker 3: And you're from age eighteen, you know you do it once,

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Speaker 3: you do it for the rest of your life. Maybe

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Speaker 3: we need to do something like that for our local

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Speaker 3: body politics. I think we should consider it, least give

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Speaker 3: it a thought. We'll also talk to the minister about

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Speaker 3: Wellington water and getting the ComCom involved.

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Speaker 15: After five.

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Speaker 1: Questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust for

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither duplicy Alan Drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be good.

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Speaker 3: Venber Across it has been in a few moments seven

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Speaker 3: after five. Right now, the Government is calling in the

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Speaker 3: Commerce Commission to help fix Wellington's water issues. Wellington Water

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Speaker 3: is going to have to report details of its financial

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Speaker 3: management to the Commerce Commission and the Commission will make

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Speaker 3: sure that Wellington rate payers aren't getting ripped off. But

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Speaker 3: how exactly are they going to do that and do

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Speaker 3: they have the powers? Simon Watts's the local government minister,

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Speaker 3: Minister good evening, Hi, Ryan, howy good thank you? So

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Speaker 3: what is the well? First of all, is this just

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Speaker 3: for Wellington Water or will eventually all water entities get

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Speaker 3: this attention from the ComCom?

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Speaker 19: Well and eventually all water enterities will get this attention.

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Speaker 19: But we're bringing forward the economic regulation for Wellington Water

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Speaker 19: because of our concerns with their financial and operational performance,

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Speaker 19: which have been well documented over the last few weeks

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Speaker 19: and actually actually over the last few years.

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Speaker 3: And what will the ComCom actually be able to ask?

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Speaker 3: You know, what information can they request?

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Speaker 19: Well, the ComCom have a number of powers in regards

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Speaker 19: to information disclosure. They're also going to be implementing an

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Speaker 19: imposing economic regulation on Wellington Water and basically what that

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Speaker 19: means they're going to put belts and braces in regards

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Speaker 19: to their financial and operational management. Basically ensuring and mitigating

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Speaker 19: some of the risks that have been identified in the

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Speaker 19: reports in the past, but get it an effect match

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Speaker 19: fit for what it needs to be when it transitions

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Speaker 19: later this year.

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Speaker 3: Because the big ripoff or the big row from your

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Speaker 3: ratepayers perspective is the fact that they were purchasing pipes

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Speaker 3: or contracts that were more expensive than market rate, So

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Speaker 3: that information is commercially sensitive. Can the ComCom ask for that?

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Speaker 19: Well, the ComCom will have a full suite of its powers,

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Speaker 19: and it does have a wide range of powers. I mean,

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Speaker 19: the key thing that we've identified and we've been concerned about,

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Speaker 19: and I've been concerned about and Cabinet have agreed is

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Speaker 19: that we need to increase public accountability at Wellington Water

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Speaker 19: now and that is the decision that Cabinet took this week.

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Speaker 19: We need to increase the amount of transparency on the

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Speaker 19: performance and the financial management and that is important for

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Speaker 19: Wellingtonians because they need to see that and that's not

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Speaker 19: been the case.

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Speaker 3: All right, are you worried about any other entities?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 19: Look, this is the main concern for me at the moment.

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Speaker 19: You know, I'm watching all councils pretty closely in terms

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Speaker 19: of their operation and financial performance, and I have no

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Speaker 19: hesitation to act if we feel like they're not in

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Speaker 19: the right place.

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Speaker 3: Are there any others on your radar?

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Speaker 19: Not at this point, but you know we are actively

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Speaker 19: monitoring that at the moment.

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Speaker 3: All right, Minister, appreciate your time. That's Simon Watts, who's

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Speaker 3: the local government minister. Nine after five Trust the Tasman.

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Speaker 3: The Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is called the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five general election that the Aussies officially now heading

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Speaker 3: to the polls on May the third. Economic concerns, housing costs.

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Speaker 3: When we talk about this quite a lot on this program.

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Speaker 3: Just what the issues are over in Australia, you'll be

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Speaker 3: familiar with them. Dennis Shanahan is the national editor at

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Speaker 3: The Australian. He's with me tonight. Hi, Dennis, Good day, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you on. So campaigning well underwell, And

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Speaker 3: I mean it's been underway for a while now, hasn't it.

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Speaker 3: But what's your sense of where the landscape is at

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Speaker 3: the moment? Oh?

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Speaker 20: Look, I think that and you're right. The campaigning has

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Speaker 20: been under way for quite a while, that the Prime

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Speaker 20: Minister really started in January and we haven't stopped. Now

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Speaker 20: we're what we're getting The message here clearly is that

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Speaker 20: the campaign's going to be fought over cost of living.

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Speaker 20: But the outlook is that the polls are showing that

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Speaker 20: the Prime Minister is likely most likely to lead Labor

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Speaker 20: into minority government. So that's where we're likely to go.

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Speaker 20: Because he has a very small majority, there's a bit

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Speaker 20: of a swing against him. By the same token, the Opposition,

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Speaker 20: led by Peter Dutton, has to win an enormous number

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Speaker 20: of seats to try and form government. So at this stage,

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Speaker 20: at the beginning of the five week campaign, the outlook

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Speaker 20: is most likely for the return of a minority Labor government.

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Speaker 3: Which and how much of that is based on some

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Speaker 3: of the elections were seen at state level. I mean

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Speaker 3: there were some around Perth and Wisdom Australia and the

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Speaker 3: Dunton you know, the Liberals not performing as well as

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Speaker 3: perhaps some might have thought, oh.

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Speaker 20: Well, that's true. But of course, unlike New Zealand, we

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Speaker 20: have state and federal elections and Australian voters can really

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Speaker 20: distinguish when they go to the polls. Sometimes there are

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Speaker 20: elections at state and federal level quite close together, and

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Speaker 20: we will have that is the case in Western Australia

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Speaker 20: where the Liberals have been basically wiped out in the

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Speaker 20: last two elections in West Australia and state elections, but

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Speaker 20: the federal vote can sometimes be quite dramatically different, and

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Speaker 20: I think that we can't take too much of a

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Speaker 20: guide from state level elections. We take an overall view,

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Speaker 20: and I think that when it comes down to it,

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Speaker 20: Western Australia was extremely important in the last election because

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Speaker 20: that's where Labor picked up a lot of its seats,

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Speaker 20: and of course the Liberals lost to the Teel independence

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Speaker 20: the climate change independence on the East Coast, and that

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Speaker 20: was really the two deciding factors in the last election.

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Speaker 20: This election, Labor is hoping to hold on to its

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Speaker 20: seats in Western Australia but could lose one or two there.

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Speaker 20: But the real decision, the real battle states are going

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Speaker 20: to be New South Wales and Victoria because in Victoria

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Speaker 20: Warria Labor is a bit on the nose and in

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Speaker 20: New South Wales there's a lot of feeling in some

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Speaker 20: traditional Labor seats against some of the renewable policies of

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Speaker 20: the Labor government, not just the costs of energy, but

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Speaker 20: the actual impact on the electorates of offshore wind farms

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Speaker 20: and rewiring the nation to provide all of those twenty

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Speaker 20: millions of meters of wiring to make the transition and

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Speaker 20: transmission to renewable energy. So yes, there have been signs

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Speaker 20: that the Liberals were in trouble at the state level,

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Speaker 20: the same thing in South Australia as well. But what

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Speaker 20: we are seeing is a national shift to the Liberal

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Speaker 20: Party since the last election, quite a big shift election

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Speaker 20: and Labor is still at an historically low level of

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Speaker 20: primary vote in the polls.

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Speaker 3: And Donald Trump not being made about Trump and his

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Speaker 3: influence on this campaign, or not his influence but his

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Speaker 3: effect I suppose. And the tariffs that are coming in

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Speaker 3: and you've had Malcolm Turnbull at play and now Anthony

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Speaker 3: Alberanezi comparing Dutton to Trump. How's that being received?

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Speaker 20: I will look, I think there will obviously be a

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Speaker 20: Trump impact on the federal election. The tariffs are the

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Speaker 20: main point. There's no doubt that already the Australians have

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Speaker 20: seen the likely imposition of tariff's and the next decision

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Speaker 20: We're getting a few signals from the US that may

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Speaker 20: not be as bad as initially shown, but in any case,

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Speaker 20: there is going to be a definite US trade tariff

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Speaker 20: effect on the election. I think that Anthony Albernese has

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Speaker 20: not done not too badly given his political differences with

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Speaker 20: Donald Trump. We certainly haven't done any worse than anyone

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Speaker 20: else around the world. And look, I think in reality,

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Speaker 20: while Peter Dutton is probably more akin to Trump's Republican flavor,

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Speaker 20: it's unlikely that he can do a great deal else.

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Speaker 20: But the real factor of Trump is on the question

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Speaker 20: of security. It's on Orcus, It's on the whether he

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Speaker 20: will commit to the continuing nuclear submarine program, which is huge,

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Speaker 20: which is part of what he is demanding Australia and

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Speaker 20: other nations do, and that is increasing their defense spending.

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Speaker 20: And it's also all about whether the Trump will continue

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Speaker 20: to stand up in the Pacific against China. And that's

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Speaker 20: particularly the case after the circumnavigation of Theustralian continent by

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Speaker 20: the Chinese live firing fleet, which was very unpopular, made

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Speaker 20: a real impact in Australia. So I think Trump will

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Speaker 20: have an effect, but you know, overall, its cost of living.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the local issues. Dennis. Thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for that analysis. Dennis Shanahan, he's the national editor at

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Speaker 3: The Australian and canber At sixteen after five, Ryan Bridge,

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Speaker 3: fascinating stuff. I sort of thought that it was going

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Speaker 3: more elbows, sorry, more Dutton's way, but that's a really

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Speaker 3: interesting take. So after six o'clock we're going to talk two,

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Speaker 3: because this is a tale of two waters. We've spoken

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Speaker 3: about Wellington water and the problems that they're having. After

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Speaker 3: six we're going to talk about water care. If you're

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Speaker 3: in Auckland, your water bill's going to go up seven

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Speaker 3: point two percent next year, seven point two percent of

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Speaker 3: the year after that, and then five and a half

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Speaker 3: percent at a minimum for basically the next ten years

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Speaker 3: after that. They're tribbling them out there burrowing. What do

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Speaker 3: you get for it? We'll ask that after sex right

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Speaker 3: now seventeen after five, If you're looking for somewhere to

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Speaker 3: stay in Auckland, I can highly recommend a bold and

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Speaker 3: design centric five star hotel in downtown Auckland. It's called

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Speaker 3: so Auckland. The first thing that strikes you when you

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Speaker 3: walk into the lobby is just how different it feels

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Speaker 3: from a typical five star hotel. The lobby is packed

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Speaker 3: with personality. There's striking cool artwork everywhere. Breakfast, lunch, and

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Speaker 3: dinner served in the Harbor Society restaurant on the fifteenth floor, where,

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Speaker 3: if the weather is behaving, stunning views of the harbor

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Speaker 3: offered through floor to ceiling windows. Every table's got a

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Speaker 3: window seat as well, so you never miss out and

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Speaker 3: you can enjoy your dinner watching dozens of yachts returning

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Speaker 3: to the marina as the sun sets. It is beautiful

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Speaker 3: at night. The rooftop bar comes alive, colorful lights throughout

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Speaker 3: the building. These are all quite unexpected lighting choices, but

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Speaker 3: very cool. Even in the lifts, they've got mirrors on

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Speaker 3: the walls and the ceilings and the floor. It feels

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Speaker 3: like you're in an art installation. So Auckland really is

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Speaker 3: so impressive. So treat yourself, enjoy a breakaway from the

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Speaker 3: everyday so Auckland sometime soon. Bryan Bridge just gone twenty

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Speaker 3: past five on News Talks. He'd be This is a

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Speaker 3: real coupe for New Zealand's TV drama The Show After

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Speaker 3: the Party, has just been nominated for a Bathter TV Award.

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Speaker 3: In the UK. It stars Robin Malcolm and Scottish actor

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Speaker 3: Peter Mullins.

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Speaker 17: Back in the day, women weren't allowed to talk about anything,

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Speaker 17: and that's what made us kind of victims.

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Speaker 11: A lot of women make false accusations that completely destroy

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Speaker 11: in us, in men's lives.

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Speaker 21: How do you know they're innocent?

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Speaker 3: Director and producer Pete Salmon is with us now, welcome

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Speaker 3: to the show and congratulations.

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Speaker 4: Oh thanks, yes, amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. When did you hear about it? How did you

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Speaker 3: find out? What was your reaction?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I woke up this morning. I knew that they were

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Speaker 4: coming in overnight and I just like told myself, don't

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Speaker 4: because it was going to be like about one in

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Speaker 4: the morning that I would find out, and don't wake

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Speaker 4: up because you'll never get back to sleep either way,

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Speaker 4: going either way. So I woke up in the morning

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Speaker 4: and the my wife had texted she was she was

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Speaker 4: working late last night, so she found out first. So yeah, incredible,

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Speaker 4: So stoked.

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Speaker 3: You're nominated in the international category, and it is a

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Speaker 3: tough It's going to be a very tough field. I've

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Speaker 3: seen obviously seen your show, but also seen Showgun, which

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Speaker 3: you're up against. Which have you seen that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's a brilliant show, right.

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Speaker 4: I haven't, but yeah, play all accounts. It's incredible. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so yeah, I mean just the competition is huge. But

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Speaker 4: you know, like I think after the Party's stands out

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Speaker 4: in kind of his own way. You know, it's this

869
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Speaker 4: little show, you know, up against something like Showgun, which

870
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Speaker 4: is ginormous. You know, so it could go either way,

871
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: you know, like Cold There's so many great shows in

872
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Speaker 4: that category, and you know, any one of them deserves us.

873
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 15: It's lovely to be part of that totally.

874
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Speaker 3: Is it? Is it about the winning or is actually

875
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Speaker 3: and put it into context for us being nominated in

876
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Speaker 3: a category like this at the back the TV Awards

877
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Speaker 3: quite a big deal.

878
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 4: It's huge. It's so huge. It's like, yeah, it's one

879
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: of the biggest awards nights of the year.

880
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Speaker 2: You know.

881
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 4: It's like it's up there with the Oscars, you know,

882
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: less well known, I suppose it, but the Baptist sort

883
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: of holds like quite a lot of respect internationally within

884
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Speaker 4: the industry, and it has so much integrity, you know,

885
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Speaker 4: because the projects that sort of go through there are

886
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: often a really high standard. So to sort of be

887
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Speaker 4: nominated is just out of the amount of shows that

888
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: you can watch nowadays is phenomenal.

889
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: Really, the reviews since it dropped in the UK have

890
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Speaker 3: been excellent. Is it How successful has it been overseas?

891
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: And I guess, how do you know, how do you

892
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: syndicate it? How do you tell?

893
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? When we sort of get some feedback from Channel four,

894
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: who's a broadcaster in the UK, and they, I mean

895
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Speaker 4: they just are in love with it. That it was

896
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Speaker 4: their second highest drama I think for last year to

897
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Speaker 4: broadcast in streaming. Wow, and I think their top top

898
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Speaker 4: show for just streaming. So it's the massive achievement what

899
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Speaker 4: it's done over there. And just know I didn't get

900
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Speaker 4: over there, but there was a lot of people who

901
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: just saw billboards everywhere, you know, and seeing Robin's face

902
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Speaker 4: all through London as you know for a little Kiwi show.

903
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Speaker 2: I think it's really lovely, you know.

904
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Speaker 4: I think the thing that I find amazing is just

905
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Speaker 4: how people watch the whole series through, you know, because

906
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Speaker 4: I quite often I just watch it one of things,

907
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: you know, and never get past the next one. But

908
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: the completion rates have been through the roof, so I

909
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: think that is a really good sign that it's doing well.

910
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: You must be doing something right then, Thanks so much,

911
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for congratulations again. Pete Salmon with US,

912
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Speaker 3: director and producer of After the Party, which has been

913
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Speaker 3: nominated for a baft Of TV Award. Over in the UK,

914
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Speaker 3: twenty four minutes half the five News Talk the b.

915
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Speaker 2: Checking the point of the story.

916
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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on the duplicy Ellen Drive with one

917
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Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected and newstalks, they'd be.

918
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Speaker 3: Five twenty seven. So we learned yesterday that we've got

919
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: sixty three thousand bureaucrats in the public service right now.

920
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Speaker 3: That doesn't include teachers or nurses or anything like that.

921
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Speaker 3: It's just bureaucrats, which is if it sounds like a

922
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Speaker 3: big number, it is. It's only four percent less than

923
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Speaker 3: where National took office, still well above the forty nine

924
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Speaker 3: odd thousand we had pre COVID and pre labor, and

925
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Speaker 3: the wage bill for a lot of them is now

926
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Speaker 3: higher than any year prior. National aggressively attacked Labor for

927
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Speaker 3: overseeing a bloated bureaucracy, remember that during the last election,

928
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: and on these numbers, aren't they now guilty of the

929
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Speaker 3: same crime we had? Judith Collins on the show yesterday

930
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: I asked her about this. She says, Oh, look, that

931
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Speaker 3: number is ridiculous and it should come down. But art

932
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Speaker 3: they actually is gung ho on sacking fourteen thousand people,

933
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Speaker 3: as the restoric would make out, I don't think so. Instead,

934
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Speaker 3: what they're going to do is take an act to

935
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Speaker 3: the reforms that Chris Hopkins passed in twenty twenty, to

936
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Speaker 3: these State Services Act. Collins says it's one of the

937
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Speaker 3: main reasons that public servants are now drowning, and report

938
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Speaker 3: writing and inefficiency and there's too much box ticking and

939
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Speaker 3: and too much time wasting on things like well being.

940
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Speaker 3: Those are her words. So if you're somebody who wanted

941
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: the public service bloat to be liposuctioned out of Wellington,

942
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: I think you're out of luck. Nikola Willis told us

943
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: last week they're going to cut specific programs in the

944
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: budget and work that's not delivering for taxpayers. But if

945
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Speaker 3: you were looking for wholesale cuts, I don't think you've

946
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Speaker 3: come to the right place. Twenty nine minutes after five

947
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: News Talks EB lots more to come, including our sports title,

948
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: lots to discuss, I mean Eden Park, Liam Lawson, take

949
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: your pick. News Talks emb.

950
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Speaker 12: For them when a juden door.

951
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Speaker 1: After making the news, the newsleakers talk to Ryan first.

952
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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplicy drive with one New

953
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Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected news talks.

954
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Speaker 2: They'd be.

955
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Speaker 3: Good evening. There's twenty three minutes away from six. You

956
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: might remember a couple of weeks ago we told you

957
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: about the problems with the Mount Messenger Bypass. This is

958
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: north of Tartanaki and some legal problems that the developers

959
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: of this DTA had run into. They basically got a permit.

960
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: Dad got a permit to inadvertently kill native species like

961
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: bat's even keywee for a fauner, you name it, while

962
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: clearing vegetation. So if you're not going out and purposely

963
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 3: killing native species to get the road done, but inadvertently

964
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: in the process of creating the bypass, these things might happen, right,

965
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Speaker 3: So you get a permit for it, and the court,

966
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Speaker 3: the High Court in March ruled that that permit was unlawful.

967
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: So today the government Conservation Minister Toma Pultucker, he has

968
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: come out and said we're going to change the law

969
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: so that that work can continue. So whether you're build

970
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: because it would have affected potentially loads of projects all

971
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Speaker 3: around the country. So the government's come out and said, basically,

972
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 3: we're going to make sure you can keep building your roads,

973
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: keep building your houses, and we'll change the lad to

974
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Speaker 3: make sure you protect it. It is twenty two to

975
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Speaker 3: two six. The King has had a brief stay in

976
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Speaker 3: hospital because of side effects from his cancer treatment. He's

977
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: been discharged now, but he had to cancel all his

978
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Speaker 3: engagements for the day. Juliet Readon is the royal correspondent

979
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 3: with us tonight. Hi, Juliet, Juliet, are you with us?

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00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 22: Yes?

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00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: Hello, yes, yes, long way to London. Nice to have

982
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Speaker 3: you on the program. Now, was this a speed bump

983
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: or is this caused for concern?

984
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 22: Look, the Palace is playing it down. They're saying it's

985
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 22: the most minor bump in the road that in a

986
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 22: road that's very much heading in the right direction. Is

987
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 22: the poetic explanation. But my understanding is that the King

988
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 22: was having his normal cancer treatment in the morning, which

989
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 22: was scheduled and part of his ongoing cancer treatment. He's

990
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Speaker 22: been having this treatment ever since he was diagnosed in

991
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 22: February last year. He then started to have these side effects.

992
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 22: The doctors advised that he go to hospital and cancel

993
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 22: the afternoon's engagements. He was seeing three ambassadors from foreign

994
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 22: countries in the afternoon that had to be canceled. He

995
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 22: went to hospital. He had a short period of observation

996
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 22: in hospital and then was discharged and went back to

997
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 22: his home, Clarents House in London. But under doctor's advice

998
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 22: and with an abundance of caution, they suggested that he

999
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 22: cancel the next day of engagements, which is Friday in

1000
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 22: the UK, and was a full day in Birmingham, that's

1001
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 22: in the Midlands of England, and it was a pretty

1002
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 22: full on day. So they've told the King he needs

1003
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 22: to rest. There's an expectation of a full schedule next week,

1004
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 22: although they may look at each day and you know,

1005
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 22: take a few events out or give him a bit

1006
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 22: more time if needed. But he's in good form back

1007
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 22: at back at Clarence House, he's he's working from his study,

1008
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 22: so I don't think it's a huge court course for concern.

1009
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 3: Was he still going to get to Italy because obviously

1010
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: I only know about this because the Pope was ill

1011
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: and they were going to take that off, keep the

1012
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: trip all together. Are they going to continue with it.

1013
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 22: Yeah, my understanding that is definitely still on. The King

1014
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 22: and the Queen are still going to Italy. That is

1015
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 22: very much in their schedule. Obviously they had hope to

1016
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 22: see the Pope and have that historic meeting, but that

1017
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Speaker 22: can't happen because of the Pope's health.

1018
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: This treatment has been going on for a long time.

1019
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: You mentioned since February last year. Have they given any

1020
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: wider update on his condition? You know how he is doing.

1021
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 21: Now.

1022
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 22: We've been told that he's doing well and that it's

1023
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 22: along road, and we know that he came back to

1024
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 22: his almost his full schedule back in Easter last year,

1025
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 22: and then of course he came to Australia. I'm actually

1026
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 22: based in Sydney. I'm not in London. I know you

1027
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 22: recognize that London accent, which is where I'm from, But

1028
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 22: I'm based in Sydney. We had him here, him and

1029
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 22: the Queen here in October. He was in summer also

1030
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 22: and this year is expected a full schedule. So yeah,

1031
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 22: it's ongoing treatment. He is not in remission. That cancer

1032
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 22: is still there. He's a seventy six year old man.

1033
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 22: Cancer treatment is very unpredictable and also very tiring. And

1034
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 22: it's a pretty big full time job that he has,

1035
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 22: so you know, these are little blips along the way,

1036
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 22: I think.

1037
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Speaker 3: Juliet, we really appreciate your time in Sydney. Juliet reading

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Speaker 3: The Royal Correspondent. It's eighteen to six.

1039
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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports title with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty

1040
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Find You're one of a kind.

1041
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 21: All board in.

1042
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 9: Full steam ahead North America, New Zealand by going to

1043
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 9: the Football World Cup.

1044
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 20: Austrategy and purpose is being to demonstrate to the hybrid

1045
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 20: multi purpose stadium and definitely bring youth at Eden Park.

1046
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 20: It's the only solution for Auckland and New Zealand National Stadium.

1047
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 23: This is not a duty of care, is it, by

1048
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 23: any stretch of the imagination getting rid of someone after

1049
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 23: two races. A duty of care is to give him

1050
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 23: a chance to try and perform a bit better. Put

1051
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 23: your arm around his shoulder, talk to him about what's

1052
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 23: going wrong.

1053
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: Certainly a lot to discuss this week on the Sports Huddle,

1054
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 3: News Talks. Edb's Andrew Alison with us tonight Hey, Andrew,

1055
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: Greeting's Ryan good to have you, and Nick Buley is

1056
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: with us two News Talks VB Crusaders commentator Nick, welcome

1057
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: to you. Good a right. So are we confident because

1058
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: you know Eden Park. Yes, they've got this vote from

1059
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: Auckland Council, but they are basically now going cap and

1060
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: hand to council and going cap and hand to government.

1061
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like anyone is forthcoming with much money.

1062
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 24: Andrew, Yeah, it seems a bit anemic, doesn't it. And

1063
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 24: I just wonder I was around the carousel we go again,

1064
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 24: don't we And it's sort of stadium fatigue at times

1065
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 24: when you had that, well that ends it are back

1066
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 24: to Key Park down at the waterfront, a bit more inspirational.

1067
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 24: But as someone I think said in that council meeting,

1068
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 24: it doesn't exist as yet whereas Eden Park does. And

1069
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 24: Tim Murphy the Newsroom Course former Herald editor in his

1070
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 24: column saying it's experience over hope. So yeah, I guess

1071
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 24: we've got to hope this retractable roof tis. My view

1072
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 24: is that if you're going to use Eden Park, and

1073
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 24: I think this has been referenced by Simeon Brown as

1074
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 24: well at times, as you've got to make it multi purpose,

1075
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 24: you've got to break down the regulatory structure and bring

1076
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 24: in more concerts, etc. To make it pay its way

1077
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 24: and allow it to pay its way to the maximum capacity.

1078
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and clearly no one else is going to

1079
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 3: help pay for it, so you've got to do something. Nick,

1080
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: What about the need? I mean, is there actually right

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Speaker 3: now any urgent sporting need for us to do anything.

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Speaker 21: That's a very good question, Ryan, and I think that's

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Speaker 21: probably part of the hesitancy at the moment, albeit you know,

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Speaker 21: that financial issue and the unwillingness from government, central government

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Speaker 21: or the council to pay for it. But I think

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Speaker 21: the longer as Andrew alluded to, the longer we kicked

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Speaker 21: the can down the road, which is the stadium issue,

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 21: it's not going to go away and it's not going

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Speaker 21: to get any cheaper.

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Speaker 3: So we need.

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Speaker 21: Some some willingness and decisiveness to grab this issue face on,

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Speaker 21: and at some stage someone's going to have to take

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Speaker 21: it on Otherwise it's going to as Andrew said, it's

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Speaker 21: going to go round and around.

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Speaker 3: The carousel.

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Speaker 21: Issues are going to come up, feasibility studies, proposals, you

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Speaker 21: name it, and we're still going to be here with

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Speaker 21: the same issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those things. A perennial issue

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Speaker 3: that you would like to be solved, but you just

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Speaker 3: get the feeling of people.

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Speaker 21: I'm lucky down here in christ it's Ryan, where we've

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Speaker 21: finally got a stadium after well coming up fifteen years

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Speaker 21: post earthquake, and that's been an ongoing battle in itself.

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Speaker 21: So I'll tell you what, Just get on with it

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Speaker 21: would be my advice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's coming an on time, on budget too,

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Speaker 3: isn't it next year?

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Speaker 15: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, it's sort of. It's one of those ones.

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Speaker 10: Ryan.

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Speaker 21: We don't want to preach it too loud because such

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Speaker 21: has been the nature of the Rebuilder the last decade

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Speaker 21: in a bit that something might happen last minutes and

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Speaker 21: it can be over budgets and off time. But yeah,

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Speaker 21: as things stand, April twenty twenty six to Kaha open,

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Speaker 21: So I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to drinx that, do we. Andrew Orders sit

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Speaker 3: and Nick Bauley on the Sports Huddle for your Friday Night.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back lots to discuss, including Rob Penny and

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Speaker 3: those Crusaders and Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of East

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Speaker 1: International Reality, the ones with local and global reach.

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Speaker 3: Twelve to six Andrew Ordison and Nick Burley on the

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Speaker 3: sports Huddle tonight. Interesting peace in the Herald today from

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Speaker 3: Elliot Smith talking about Rob Penny and the Crusaders is Andrew,

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Speaker 3: do you think he is in fact? Although many thought

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Speaker 3: he might not be the man to lead the Crusaders

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Speaker 3: back to a title.

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Speaker 24: Well, let's states Ryan is looking promising, isn't it, seeing

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Speaker 24: it on the table there and up there with the chiefs.

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Speaker 16: It's probably not Scott Robertson at the moment. I more

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Speaker 16: like I think Elliott referencing and more of the.

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Speaker 24: Todd Blackhead era at present, solid but not spectacular. But

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Speaker 24: I think a few more things probably come into us

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 24: favor this year, shrinking injury toll, and I think that

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Speaker 24: it's been a bit more of a natural.

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Speaker 16: Order, restored a bit more stability there.

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Speaker 24: I mean, Nick will know more about this, having followed

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Speaker 24: the Crusaders close and commentating than I would.

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Speaker 16: But yeah, it just feels like Rob Penny is getting

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01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 16: bit more. Was Mojo back, I'd have to agree with that.

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Speaker 21: Well, you summar your summation there, orders, but it is

1144
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 21: easy to forget last year guys that you know, without

1145
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 21: the likes of will Jordan for an entire season down

1146
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 21: to their fifth first five only had Cody Taylor, Scott

1147
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 21: Barrett's to Mighty Williams, to name a few, for a

1148
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 21: handful of games.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty hard going. Just ask Blues coach Veron Cotta.

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Speaker 21: At the moment how that goes when you don't have

1151
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 21: some of your front line all Blacks, or the Hurricanes

1152
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 21: coach Clark Laidler when you're down to your fifth ranked

1153
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 21: first five eights.

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Speaker 3: So there was a bit conspiring agains somebody.

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Speaker 21: I don't think Rob Pennett's all of a sudden has

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 21: become a good coach compared to being a bad coach

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01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 21: last year. And look, there's still a couple of areas

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 21: which he's acknowledged too, where you know, defensively and that

1159
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 21: they need to improve to be back at where they'd

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Speaker 21: like to be. But there's certainly a scenario where come

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Speaker 21: June that they're back lifting the silverware. And yet all

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Speaker 21: of a sudden, we're going from a scenario where very

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Speaker 21: much felt like at the time Rob Keenny was there

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Speaker 21: as a caretaker coach to a situation where when we

1165
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 21: finally get into the Takaha Stadium, he's still the coach

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 21: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of caretakers, poor old Liam Lawson for just

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Speaker 3: two races. What do you make of this, Andrew? What's

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: your take on it? And do you think we'll see

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Speaker 3: him back in the top flight?

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01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think we call it.

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Speaker 16: He's still relatively young twenty three.

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Speaker 24: I find an absolutely extraordinary story that this can happen.

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 24: But I guess if you delve down into it, I

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01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 24: mean it probably raises more questions and answers about whether its.

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Speaker 16: Driving your bility, is it politics? The pragmatism of it.

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Speaker 24: If you think about Sunoda coming in in his form

1179
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 24: hasn't been that flash either, But if he's coming with

1180
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 24: an eight figure sum via Honda as well into the

1181
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 24: Red Bull coffers, it's pretty hard to turn it down.

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01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 16: I found the.

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01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 24: Duty of care excuse from Christian Horner. I mean, that's

1184
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 24: fifth year satire, isn't it really? When you think protecting

1185
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Speaker 24: and developing him recording?

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Speaker 2: Really come on?

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Speaker 16: I mean just that was extraordinary, so to use that

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Speaker 16: as the excuse.

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Speaker 24: So anyway, I think it's some Yeah, it's gonna be

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Speaker 24: fascinating to see how that pans out.

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Speaker 16: I mean, there's been plenty of gone before Awsom the

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Speaker 16: seat with the likes of Alex.

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Speaker 24: Albom, Pierre Gasly, Sergio Peris, and Lawson joins their ranks

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Speaker 24: all bit temporarily.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, Nick, well look it made me think, Ryan, I

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01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 21: know you're covering Heather for paternity leave. Imagine if they

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Speaker 21: just gave you two shows and then Jason, when Stanley

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01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 21: came knocking and said, you know, don't come back Monday.

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Speaker 21: I think we can all sympathize with with Liam, and

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Speaker 21: I know we're incredibly proud of him here in New Zealand.

1201
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 21: But you're even just reading some of the news articles

1202
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 21: at globally, like even by Red Bull Standards orders mentioned

1203
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Speaker 21: their pure ghasly.

1204
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Speaker 16: You know, at least he got twelve races half a season.

1205
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Speaker 21: You know, it's two and a few things conspiring against

1206
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 21: him as well in terms of unfamiliar tracks tracks he

1207
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 21: never raced that before racing in the Wheat and Melbourne. Look,

1208
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 21: I really hope Liam, and by all accounts from people

1209
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 21: whill know them, know him a.

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Speaker 3: Great deal better than me.

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Speaker 21: He's got pretty thick skin and he'll take this on

1212
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 21: the chin and hopefully he can prove people not wrong.

1213
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Speaker 2: At least.

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Speaker 21: The good thing is he's still in Formula one and

1215
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 21: gets to go to a track in Suzuka next week

1216
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 21: where he is a bit more comfortable and perhaps he

1217
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 21: can make a bit of a statement.

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01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it says more about red Bull management

1219
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 3: than it does about Liam Lawson personally.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: Now, very quickly, Andrew will come to you on this.

1222
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 3: The rowing at twenty thirty two Olympics is going to

1223
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: be in the Fitzroy River. Now, this is a known

1224
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: habitat for saltwater crocodiles. How on earth do you do

1225
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: you concentrate? Do you take this seriously when these crocodiles

1226
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Speaker 3: in the river.

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Speaker 24: Well, that's because you're going to have a mic crocodile

1228
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 24: dundee machete in your boat, Ryan, as you go down

1229
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Speaker 24: the course.

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Speaker 16: I suspect you know that a night this is a knife.

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 16: That's sort of style. I love that this is the

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Speaker 16: favorite story of the week. Actually, this is the plomacy

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Speaker 16: of the IOC.

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Speaker 24: You know, Sporting Bodies World Rowing going to issue a

1235
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 24: feasibility study now over this.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I think I'll come up against your current

1237
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 16: problems as well.

1238
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Speaker 24: But it would be probably easy if I just said

1239
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 24: I cut the pr and just say we're not going

1240
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 24: to race alongside six meters human chompers, thanks very much,

1241
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 24: and leave it there.

1242
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Speaker 16: Go and raise at Tenrith Lakes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1244
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: I think they might have a lot of fans support

1245
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: for that move too. Andrew, thanks mate to God to

1246
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Speaker 3: have you on. Andrew Ordison News Talks AB Sports freader

1247
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 3: Nick Buley News Talks Abi Crusader's commentator. That's the sports

1248
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: huddle for your Friday night, six two six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

1250
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by News Talks B.

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Speaker 3: Four to six on News Talks EDB after six. We've

1252
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: got a lot to discuss if especially if you're in

1253
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 3: Auckland and or in the Auckland region and you're paying

1254
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 3: your water fees to water Care, just how much water

1255
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Speaker 3: Care is going to borrow they're going to borrow basically

1256
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: treble their borrowing over the coming years. What would you

1257
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: actually get for that? And how much is it going

1258
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: to cost you? We know it's seven point two percent

1259
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: this year, it'll be seven point two next year. How

1260
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: much in the years after that, what do you get

1261
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Speaker 3: for it? We'll ask the Boss Barry sober racts, the

1262
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Speaker 3: Political Week where with Peter Lewis our Asia Business correspondent,

1263
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 3: and we're in the UK with Gavin Gray All ahead

1264
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 3: on the business out here on Newstalk set.

1265
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: By keeping track of where the money is flowing. The

1266
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and who Theirs Insurance and investments,

1267
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Speaker 1: Grow your wealth, Protect your future use dogs have been good.

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Speaker 3: Evening at a six oh seven. Barry Sophis had a

1269
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: very popular piece in the Herald today about the Greens.

1270
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 3: Will chat to him about that. Shortly byd sales This

1271
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: is the Chinese ev and hybrid manufacturer topping one hundred

1272
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,479
Speaker 3: billion dollars for the first time. Peter Lewis, our Asia

1273
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: Business correspondent with us on that after six thirty plus

1274
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: Gavin Grays in the UK right now, the country's largest

1275
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: sewerage tunnel is officially bored. Tunnel boring machine that's been

1276
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: digging Auckland's sixteen kilometers central interceptor broke through this morning.

1277
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: It comes as Watercare has announced a huge fourteen billion

1278
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: dollar investment to renew aging and failing pipes over the

1279
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: next decade. But the question is how much is that

1280
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: going to cost? Auckland is Jamie Sinclair is Watercare's incoming

1281
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 3: chief executive. He's with us tonight.

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Speaker 7: Hello, good even Ryan, Greg to be looking great to be.

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Speaker 3: With you too. Now, how much are water bill is

1284
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,959
Speaker 3: going to go up by in Auckland in the next

1285
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 3: year and the next five years, in the next ten years,

1286
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: do we know?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 7: Look, Ryan, Well, this is part of our business plan

1289
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 7: which we're really excited to release this week, which articulates

1290
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 7: all of the investments for thirteen point eight billion dollars

1291
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 7: of investment that we're making in water and wastewater infrastructure

1292
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Speaker 7: across Auckland. And obviously as part of that we are

1293
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Speaker 7: outlining to Auckland is how we're going to finance that

1294
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 7: and from that, and that includes the prices that we

1295
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:24,479
Speaker 7: charge for for water and wastewater services. So for next year,

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Speaker 7: that is our ticulators in our business plan, the price

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Speaker 7: will go up by seven point two percent for for

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Speaker 7: the wastewater and water tariff charges that we charge to

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Speaker 7: Auckland customers. It's a similar quantum the following year, and

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Speaker 7: then it drops to five point five percent for the

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Speaker 7: for the next couple of years, so.

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Speaker 3: We're looking at increases of at least five percent, So

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Speaker 3: a well ahead of inflation. But what do we get

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Speaker 3: for that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's right. That what what the plan articulates

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Speaker 7: at that level of investment. And I think what we've

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Speaker 7: done is identify what we need to do both renew

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Speaker 7: and repair and upgrade our aging infrastructure and also allow

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Speaker 7: for growth. We know that Auckland is growing rapidly the

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Speaker 7: last five years at one hundred and twenty thousand people

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Speaker 7: came to the city and doubt the size of the

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Speaker 7: need and that puts pressure obviously on the network. So

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Speaker 7: we are allowing for that in the business plan, so

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Speaker 7: that the projects is about a thousand projects included in

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Speaker 7: our plans and that thirteen point eight billion dollars of investment.

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Speaker 7: So what auckland Is will be able to see is

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Speaker 7: a continuation of the service they get with us, but

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Speaker 7: also the will we all replacement?

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Speaker 3: Will we get no more pooh in the ocean?

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Speaker 7: For that, crist Well, thankfully we've Today's a great day

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Speaker 7: for Auckland, I thinking and for water care with the

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Speaker 7: breakthrough of the Central Interceptor Tunnel at point Erin and

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Speaker 7: I highlight that because both it's really a project that

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Speaker 7: we're really proud of, but it also will dramatically, once

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Speaker 7: we connect all the pieces up, dramatically reduce the number

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Speaker 7: of overflows that we see into our into our harborst

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Speaker 7: So we're really proud of that, and that's exactly the

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Speaker 7: type investment we.

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Speaker 3: Need to still a little bit, but not you can't

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Speaker 3: get rid of it completely. We'll never stop we will

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Speaker 3: never stop the waste going into the water completely.

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Speaker 7: Well. Our network is in some parts a combined network,

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Speaker 7: which means that storm water and waste will to combine

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Speaker 7: when there's a lot of rain. Our system is designed

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Speaker 7: like that, but obviously we need to we need to

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Speaker 7: continue to reduce that.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the debt that you're having to

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Speaker 3: take on, I mean, you are trembling your debt levels.

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Speaker 3: To put that in perspective, it is more than the

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Speaker 3: debt of all the big four power Gen tailors combined.

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Speaker 3: Is this risky? I mean? And how expensive to pay back?

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Speaker 3: And the numbers you've given us for how much we

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Speaker 3: are going to have to pay each year, presumably haven't

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Speaker 3: taken into account whether your debt servicing costs might go

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Speaker 3: up rapidly at one point or another.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, we have we' fact we've fected about all

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Speaker 7: that into our our financial model and you're like that,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's very you know, by the very definition

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Speaker 7: of what we're trying to do is we need to

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Speaker 7: balance that pressure on customers versus the long term financing

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Speaker 7: that we can access now through the work that was

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Speaker 7: done through Council and government on the financial separation of

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Speaker 7: water care, which really has enabled this capacity that we've

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Speaker 7: got now. And look, we are very mindful of the

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Speaker 7: debt level. We will be managing that very, very carefully

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Speaker 7: and conservatively. It is I appreciate it, it's a lot,

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Speaker 7: but we this is what's needed to spread the cost

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Speaker 7: of that long term and infrastructure investment over generations as

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Speaker 7: opposed to lumping it all on today's open to much

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Speaker 7: higher charges. So there's that balance that we have to

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Speaker 7: always have to manage between pressure on customers today versus

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Speaker 7: making sure that that that the value that is accreted

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Speaker 7: through those assets is realized over time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people are going to agree with you

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Speaker 3: in a funny way, even though you have to pay more.

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Speaker 3: We look at places like Wellington and you think, well,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather actually have functioning pipes. What about the housing

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Speaker 3: developments in the north and the south of the south

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Speaker 3: of the city right now where you actually can't get

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Speaker 3: water connections. What needs to happen so that that can

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Speaker 3: be done.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the capacity maps and capacity constraints that we've

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Speaker 7: been published last year, and I think that's a good

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Speaker 7: example of us being much more open and transparent with

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Speaker 7: actually what is happening across the city in terms of

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Speaker 7: those constraints. Because we need to unlock all of that.

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Speaker 7: That takes time, and what we're doing is articulating and

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Speaker 7: giving developers in particular, but also those who are looking

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Speaker 7: to build information to make decisions, and we'll be giving

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Speaker 7: more information around the time scales and the projects that

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Speaker 7: are need to unlock those capacity constraints. So, look, I

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Speaker 7: can't foresee a future where there is no capacity issues

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Speaker 7: across Auckland, but I think what we are doing is

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Speaker 7: being more open and trench with what we're doing to

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Speaker 7: resolve those and the timelines.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jamie, appreciate you coming on the show. Jamie Sinclear,

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Speaker 3: the incoming water Care chief Executive. It is thirteen minutes

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Speaker 3: after six on News Talk CB. Coming up next, we

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Speaker 3: will wrap the political week that was with Barry Soper.

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Speaker 3: political week that was with Barry Soper. Barry, hello again,

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Speaker 3: good day.

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Speaker 6: Again, right, nice to be here. Good late in the evening.

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Speaker 3: It certainly is now, Irig your column this morning, great columns.

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Speaker 3: Loved it. But the only thing that you did at

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Speaker 3: the end was talk about the cycle ways.

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Speaker 6: Well, I started with the cycle ways and went back

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Speaker 6: to them. Yes, because they are you know, the mantra

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Speaker 6: for the Greens, of course, yeah, and I'm on them

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Speaker 6: every day.

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Speaker 3: You're on the cycle ways. Okay, that's all fine and good,

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Speaker 3: But what you did was basically set up. You're not

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Speaker 3: saying cycle ways are bad, You're saying that they're not

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Speaker 3: enforced enough well, and you're opening the door for them.

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Speaker 3: I thought, oh, you've lost me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: No.

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Speaker 6: The point that I was trying to make clearly I

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 6: didn't make it plain enough for you, Ryan, was that,

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Speaker 6: you know, cycle ways, you do take your life into

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Speaker 6: your own hands when you when you're on them. And

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Speaker 6: I've noticed that. I noticed it again today coming in.

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Speaker 6: I could have been knocked off a couple of times

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Speaker 6: coming down my cycle way. And but the claim what

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Speaker 6: I was trying to point out, you know, you could

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Speaker 6: make a claim that you're better off on the road

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Speaker 6: with cycleways, but the claim that the cops should be

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Speaker 6: disbanded by Tamotha Paul is out just totally over the.

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Speaker 3: Tops, out the gate, and well it's just.

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Speaker 6: Made the Greens look silly. Not only that it was

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Speaker 6: Timotha Paul was bad enough, and what she was saying

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Speaker 6: this week to me was appalling that you know, the

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Speaker 6: beat cops. I mean, they may be intimidating to some

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Speaker 6: people if they have got something to hide or they're

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Speaker 6: running from the police, but in general, cops on the

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Speaker 6: beat are welcomed and they've been on the beat long

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Speaker 6: before Tamotha Paul was ever thought of. They're on the beat,

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Speaker 6: taken off now they're back and I think it's a

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01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 6: great thing. But the other thing is, and we've talked

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Speaker 6: about it this week time and time again, is profit

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Speaker 6: the dirty word for the Green Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The two keys they can't get away from police. Profit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, both the co leaders who would

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Speaker 6: be on over at two hundred grand apiece. So we're

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 6: paying around half a million dollars for these two women

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Speaker 6: to be in Parliament. That's Madam of Davidson and Chloe

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Speaker 6: Swarbrick both hate the idea that investment investors to this country.

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Speaker 6: What damn make a profit. We should be a charity.

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01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 6: We should be welcoming people in, letting them spend money,

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 6: but spend it, not expect anything in return for it.

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Speaker 6: And similarly with the hospital system, when you've got a

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Speaker 6: government now says to reduce the waiting lists, we may

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Speaker 6: have to go private. The point that Christopher Luxen made

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Speaker 6: was that when you wake up after an operation looking

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Speaker 6: at the ceiling, you don't really care what wardron where

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Speaker 6: you're at the operation's being done, whether it's private or public.

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Speaker 6: So if it reduces the waiting list, good thing. But

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Speaker 6: these private hospitals, according to the Greens, I'm not allowed

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Speaker 6: to make a profit.

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Speaker 3: No one's allowed to make a profit.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 3: Now, the RMA Act, we've got a replacement and at

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Speaker 3: the outline the blueprint of replacement, but it's going to

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Speaker 3: take a very long time barrier to get this through.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, and yeah, god, I mean RMA came in

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Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety one. It was the work initially of

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Speaker 6: the law professor who should really as much as I

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Speaker 6: like Jeffrey Partner and got on very well with him

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Speaker 6: when he was for a very short time Prime minister,

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Speaker 6: he was not suited to parliament. I mean he's a

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Speaker 6: law professor. He should have stick stuck to his knitting,

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Speaker 6: and his knitting in this case was the Resource Management Act.

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Speaker 6: It was overwritten over I mean this man once wrote

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Speaker 6: I wrote a manifesto for the Labor Party, then went

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Speaker 6: on for three hundred and sixty pages. I think the

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Speaker 6: only person that ever read it was Bill Birch in

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Speaker 6: the National Party.

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Speaker 3: Had Erick and Jeffrey Palmer would go on Twitter with

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty characters.

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Speaker 6: Not very well, that's not as sporte. But you know, honestly,

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Speaker 6: when you look at this, it's been it's really been

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Speaker 6: a handbreak on the develop on many developments in New Zealand.

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01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 6: They tried to reform it before the last Labor government

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Speaker 6: did with a thousand word, a thousand page piece of legislation.

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Speaker 6: This one has got to be much more simple and

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Speaker 6: cutting out a lot of the crap that people have

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Speaker 6: to go through to do anything, and I think you'll

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Speaker 6: find that that will be the end result of this.

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Speaker 3: Also this week we've had Judith Collins coming out and

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Speaker 3: sharing crowing about her consultant spend coming down, and she's

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Speaker 3: done two her credit. I mean that all I had

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Speaker 3: to do was say the words and the cost has

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Speaker 3: come right down.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I certainly government departments have realized and

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01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 6: no uncertain terms. Don't go and employ people when you

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 6: can do the job yourself. That's what we pay public

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Speaker 6: servants to do. And when they want reports, they go

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Speaker 6: out put it with a private consultancy company and pay

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01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 6: an arm and a league for it. And there's now

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 6: a big argument over key we Rail and how much

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01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 6: they spent on it. The Ombudsman Boshia on the first instance,

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01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 6: he said no, it didn't have to be released the

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01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 6: cost of consultancy on the key we Rall Ferry project.

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Speaker 6: But now he's reversed his decision and they're fighting it

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Speaker 6: in the courts. Well, you know, the public have a

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01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 6: right to know, in my view, how much the public

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01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 6: service is spending on consultants on the very work that

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01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 6: they should be capable of doing themselves.

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Speaker 3: Big weekend this week well, we've got the supermarkets on

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 3: Sunday announcement and we've got the ferries on Monday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so lots wonderful lot to look forward to next week, Barry.

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Speaker 3: We'll see then. Cheers, Barry, Thank you. Barry Soper, Senior

1525
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 3: political correspondent here at News Talk ZB twenty three minutes

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Speaker 3: after six on your Friday evening. When we come back.

1527
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Speaker 3: There's an ad campaign for a destination in New Zealand

1528
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 3: that's been pulled this afternoon. It showed people playing touch

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,879
Speaker 3: rugby next to something on a beach that they shouldn't

1530
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: have been playing touch rugby next to.

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01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 15: I'll tell you what it.

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: Is next croaching the numbers and getting the results.

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01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and MAS Insurance

1534
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: and Investments.

1535
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 2: Grew your Wealth, Protect your Future newstalks EDB.

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01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: Six six on News Talk ZB after six thirty we'll

1537
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,440
Speaker 3: get to the BYD update. It's a pretty significant milestone

1538
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 3: for the Chinese EV and hybrid market. A manufacturer rather

1539
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 3: are also the Ainz ed Roy Morgan consumer confidence survey

1540
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 3: out today fell four points to nine three point to

1541
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 3: trending up. But boy, it's hard work, isn't it? When

1542
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: that's the second one we've had this week now, this

1543
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 3: Dunedin business. So the ad campaign for Dunedin en Z

1544
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 3: was put out this week, earlier this week and has

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01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 3: been pulled already. What is it Friday afternoon been pulled

1546
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: already and the reason is quite simple that it included

1547
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 3: people playing touch rugby on the beach and they were

1548
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 3: within meters of a giant seal. Now, obviously you can't

1549
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 3: get close to seal. I mean it's trying to encourage

1550
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 3: you to experience Denin's wildlife. But there were obviously some

1551
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: advocates saying not that close, not that close. You would

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01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 3: think there'll be some kind of check before it went published,

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01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 3: but apparently not. It went and down it's been pulled

1554
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 3: twenty seven after six News talk z'b were to Peter

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01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 3: Lewis in Asia.

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Speaker 12: Next so lucky.

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01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 4: I'm not.

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01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro microbe or just playing economics. It's all

1559
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: on the business hours with Ryan Bridge and theirs. Insurance

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01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future.

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01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: These talksad be Devin Gray out of the Union.

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Speaker 4: To have.

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01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: The AWAD.

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01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 3: Twenty five away from the seven, Gavin Gray out of

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01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: the UK just before seven. I'm sure, we'll get an

1566
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 3: update from him on the King's condition, how he's doing,

1567
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 3: how he's coping, how it's affecting him. Also, did you

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01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 3: see today Madam and Davidson was calling out the government

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 3: over not turning up to this meeting. So there's a

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01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: couple of housing groups in Auckland they call a meeting

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01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 3: about homelessness, and they actually invited a whole bunch of people.

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 3: They invited National and Act and labor anyone. Anyway, no

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 3: one went except for Madam and Davidson, and she made

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 3: the point why.

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01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 17: Are they not Why are there local MPs not here

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01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 17: in or from Woockland. Why are they not here seeing

1577
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 17: the beauty and the solutions at community organizations, COPAPA, MARDI

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01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 17: organizations have to offer them.

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Speaker 3: I thought they cared Now I don't have a problem

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 3: with politicians making hey while the sun shines, which is

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01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 3: what Madame and Davidson was clearly doing there. The only

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01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: problem I had with Madame and Davidson doing this is

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 3: that she was the minister responsible for homelessness and she

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01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 3: utterly failed. It got worse. Same with domestic violence. Useless

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01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 3: Useless in fact didn't turn up. Not only would she

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 3: not turn up to meeting. She didn't even book any Remember,

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01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 3: they released her her ministerial diary and it was so

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01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 3: bereefed of entries you would barely call it a diary,

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01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 3: barely constituted one. So I will I find that slightly amusing.

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01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 3: I also find it. I would find it difficult. I

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01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: think if I was one of the MP's she was

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01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: lecturing to be lectured by by her on homelessness of

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01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 3: all issues. Twenty four away from seven Peter Lewis, who's that?

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Speaker 3: Asia Business correspondent Peter Good Evening? These things are either

1595
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 3: good evening, Peter Good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with byd because anywhere you go in New

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01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 3: Zealand you will see one of these cars. And their

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01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 3: sales have now reached a bit of a milestone one

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 3: hundred billion dollars for the first time.

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Speaker 26: Yes exactly, sales top one hundred billion dollars. Not only

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 26: is that a nice round number, but it's also significant

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 26: because they've now leaped frog Tesla, which is suffering a

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01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 26: bit of a backlash at the moment because of Elon

1604
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 26: Musk's role in the in the Trump administration. Now the

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01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 26: Tesla only makes electric cars, but you know, if you

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01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 26: take bhyd's evs, they're about the same number now as Tesla.

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01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 26: If you include China by BYD's hybrid cars, which are

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 26: very popular in China, It's sold a record four point

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01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 26: three million vehicles globally in twenty twenty four. Now, the

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01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 26: reason for this, a lot of people will say, well,

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01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 26: there's a lot of shenanigans going on, lots of state

1612
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 26: support for Chinese EV manufacturers, which has been true. But nevertheless,

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01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 26: the BYD car product and Chinese EB makers in general,

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01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 26: their product is absolutely superb. If you ever sit in

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01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 26: aside one of these cars, sometimes you feel like you're

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01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 26: not in the motor vehicle, you're in a time machine.

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01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 26: They've got all the latest gadgets in it. And in fact,

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01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 26: you know BYD is putting in its latest models, all

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01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 26: its latest features, like for example, at that tree that

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01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 26: charges in five minutes and gives you about five hundred

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01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 26: kilometer range, so almost as quick as just filling up

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01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 26: your car with petrol. It's got all the latest AI features.

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01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 26: It's got a feature called Godsei, which is like a

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01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 26: sort of a semi automated driving system. And this car

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01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 26: the latest model that it's just released at the weekend

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01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 26: only costs sixteen and a half thousand US dollars. So

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01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,480
Speaker 26: when you hear of Donald Trump putting tariffs on cars

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01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 26: into the US, you can only think that, actually, all

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01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 26: it's going to do is make it worse for the

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01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 26: US car industry. Not only is it going to push

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01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 26: up prices, but the US has lost the battle already

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01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 26: with the Chinese makers for electric vehicles. It lost the

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 26: battle a long time ago for smaller vehicles because they're

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01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 26: imported firms like South Korea's Kia Motors and he On Dai.

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01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 26: Really where it makes its money is in large gas

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01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 26: guzzlers and pickup trucks, which are hardly the future of

1637
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 26: the auto industry.

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01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and these terrorists, I mean I know that something

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01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 3: that they're going to be the savior, but also many people,

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01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 3: including some working for those very companies, don't. Now, let's

1641
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 3: talk about these subsidies in China. This is fascinating. So

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01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 3: they already have quite a large subsidy program over in China,

1643
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 3: but they're looking at extending these to some leisure areas,

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01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 3: that's right.

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01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 26: I mean, they're trading program which they introduced about a

1646
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 26: year or so ago, was to try and boost spending,

1647
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 26: to get the consumers who open their wallets and spend

1648
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 26: and boost the economy. So you could trade in mobile phones, cars,

1649
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 26: other gadgets for a new product at a good price

1650
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 26: within a certain period of time. So trade in your

1651
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 26: old fear you they're now talking about including services in

1652
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 26: that they're talking about travel, tourism, sports, again to try

1653
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 26: and get people to spend, because consumption is still nowhere

1654
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 26: near the level it needs to be, and there's certainly

1655
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 26: nowhere near consumer spending the sort of levels that you

1656
01:26:55,479 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 26: see in other economies. In the US, for example, it's

1657
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 26: about seventy five percent of GDP. In China it's only

1658
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 26: about forty percent, so lots of room to expand consumer spending.

1659
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 26: The problem and the reason why they're struggling, it's just

1660
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 26: a lack of confidence in the economy at the moment.

1661
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 26: Amongst Chinese households, they're worried about losing their jobs. You've

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01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 26: had employment is close to a record high over twenty percent.

1663
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 26: That there's no real social support scheme if you lose

1664
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 26: your job or if you get sick, so people rather

1665
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 26: save their money than spend it. So this is the

1666
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 26: ongoing battle that China has to try and get households

1667
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 26: to spend more, not just on goods now, but also

1668
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 26: on services as well.

1669
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 3: Fascinating Now, Pete, he'd sif he'd be happy to be

1670
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: out of the States at the moment after the whole

1671
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 3: signal scandal, and he's hitting to your neck of the woods.

1672
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 3: He's hitting to the Indo Pacific as they call it,

1673
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 3: but we would probably refer to it as Asia, and

1674
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 3: Tokyo is on the list.

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01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 26: Right, is in the Philippines at the moment. He's going

1676
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 26: to Tokyo this weekend. This is coming at a very

1677
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 26: difficult time in US Japanese relations, firstly because the US

1678
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 26: has slapped tariffs on Japan on its auto vehicles, and

1679
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 26: it was hoping to get some exemptions from that because

1680
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 26: actually Japanese tariffs are lower than US tariffs when it

1681
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 26: comes to auto's but they haven't obviously succeeded. They spent

1682
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 26: a lot of time trying to lobby Donald Trump Prime

1683
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 26: Minister Shiga Wins over to Washington. None of that appears

1684
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 26: to have worked. And now this visit by Pete hege

1685
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 26: Haig said, is coming when Donald Trump has questioned the

1686
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 26: security arrangements between the US and Japan. Now he says

1687
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 26: that the US is obliged to support Japan and defend Japan,

1688
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 26: but Japan's not obliged to defend it back. And he says,

1689
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 26: you know, on Earth and makes these deals. What the

1690
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 26: answer is, it's the US that makes those deals, because

1691
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 26: it was the US who imposed the pacifist claus in

1692
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 26: the Constitution after the Second World War. Dwight Eisenhower further

1693
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 26: expanded that in the nineteen sixties. So Japan traditionally has

1694
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 26: had a very pacifist approach. It doesn't spend much money

1695
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 26: on defense, doesn't have nuclear weapons. But it sounds like

1696
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 26: Donald Trump is going to shake up all of this,

1697
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 26: just like he's shaking up the relationship with the EU

1698
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 26: and with Canada and expecting some sort of trade deal

1699
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 26: and some sort of deal that's going to get Japan

1700
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 26: to spend more money on its own defense.

1701
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 3: I suppose that was an inevitable thing to happen. I

1702
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 3: just hope he doesn't shake until it breaks, you know,

1703
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,959
Speaker 3: like he hasn't some other areas of the world. Appreciate

1704
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 3: your time as always. Peter Lewis, who's our Asia business correspondent,

1705
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 3: always enjoy our Chats on a Friday seventeen. It's away

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01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 3: from seven. We'll go to the UK next with Gavin Gray, everything.

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01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: From SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour with

1708
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Lairs, Insurance and Investments, Screw your Wealth,

1709
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: Protect your Future News dogs v.

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01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 3: Fourteen Away from seven. Big one day concert on this

1711
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 3: weekend in Auckland Symphony. It's called apparently it is the

1712
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 3: biggest in New Zealand. Now forty thousand people expected to go.

1713
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 3: It's at the Domain in Auckland and very very popular,

1714
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 3: very very popular amongst a certain age group thirty five

1715
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 3: pluses who they target, and that age group proves to

1716
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 3: be quite consistent with its ticket purchasing. They're not as

1717
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: affected by the I mean, because I suppose you're not

1718
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 3: going to a million concerts over a summer period, which

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01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 3: you're eighteen to twenty two year olds might be. If

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Speaker 3: you're thirty five plus, you're probably only going to one

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Speaker 3: in the year, maybe if you're lucky, if you can

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Speaker 3: get a babysitter for the kids. So anyway, that is

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Speaker 3: on this weekend. People will be enjoying themselves, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen Away from seven, Ryan Kevin Gray's out a UK

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Speaker 3: correspondent with us now given good evening to you hi

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Speaker 3: there are Now we've got lots of messages of support

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Speaker 3: pouring and for King Charles.

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Speaker 25: Yes, quite a shock that to find out that he's

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Speaker 25: canceled today's engagements. He was due to have four different

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Speaker 25: engagements in Birmingham in the Midlands. They have been canceled

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Speaker 25: because of what are being called side effects from cancer treatment.

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Speaker 25: And obviously we know that the diagnosis for the King

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Speaker 25: for his cancer came back in February of last year,

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Speaker 25: and we knew that he was being treated for cancer,

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01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 25: and the specifics have been kept pretty vague. But the

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01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 25: seventy six year old had gone by car, not ambulance

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Speaker 25: to the hospital and I think there's a general feeling

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01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 25: of playing this down. They just believe it was being

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01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 25: very careful with his symptoms and the doctors suggested that

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Speaker 25: he on an otherwise good upward trajectory of recovery. He

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01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 25: has had this brief setback and it's just not worth

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01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 25: the risk of him going to Birmingham and that he

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01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 25: should rest. It's said that he's back at his house

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01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 25: in London, Clarence House, near Buckingham Palace and is undertaking

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01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 25: sort of state papers reading those making calls from his study.

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Speaker 25: But yes, we do know that that tour today has

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01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 25: been canceled. We're being told that his tour to Italy,

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01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 25: due to take place early next month is still down

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Speaker 25: to go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well, good to have that update, givin thank you for that. Now,

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01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 3: over in the EU, they've put out a list of

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Speaker 3: items that you will need and how long you'll need

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01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 3: to be self sufficient if there's a disaster. But interesting,

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01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 3: it's not just a natural disaster. There's military but also

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01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 3: cyber and techs are mentioned. Given.

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Speaker 25: Yes, so this came from the Crisis Preparedness and Crisis

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01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 25: Management Commissioner for the European Union and it makes them

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01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 25: start reading suggesting that in the twenty seven nation block,

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Speaker 25: the four hundred and fifty million people there should stockpile

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01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 25: three days worth of food, water, and other essentials in

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01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 25: case of a crisis. More than that, she's actually saying

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01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 25: the EU itself should build up a strategic reserve and

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01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 25: stockpile other critical resources, including firefighting planes, medical equipment and

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01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 25: assets against chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear threats. It all

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01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 25: sounds extremely depressing and worrying. And it's certainly making the

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01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 25: headlines here. Individuals advised to stockpile food, water, torches, identity papers,

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Speaker 25: medicine and shortwave radios. The Commissioner has basically saying that

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Speaker 25: it's not just fear of Russia and fear of war,

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01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 25: it's cyber attacks, climate change and disease. And the fear

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Speaker 25: is that these threats are getting more and more complex,

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01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 25: that they may be all interconnected, and that people in

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01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 25: Europe should get themselves ready. It is certainly a very

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01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 25: very dark period in terms of fears across the European

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Speaker 25: Union and the deed around the world.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can take solace in a nice Easter egg

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Speaker 3: for Easter, but they might cost you a little bit

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01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 3: more given.

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Speaker 25: You could take solace at Easter egg if you could

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Speaker 25: afford one, because according to a price watchdog group here

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Speaker 25: in the UK called Which, prices have risen by as

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Speaker 25: much as fifty percent compared to last year.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 25: I don't know if you've been out shopping for your

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01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 25: Easter egg yet, run but the price of chocolate has

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01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 25: risen by sixteen and a half percent, so almost a

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Speaker 25: fifth outpacing an overall four point four percent increase in

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01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 25: the cost of supermarket food and drink. Why has chocolate

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01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 25: risen so much, Well, it is quite simply because of

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01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 25: the growing conditions. The global price of coco has risen

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01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 25: sharply in the last three years, reaching a record high

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01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 25: in January this year. The crops from West Africa in particular,

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01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 25: one of the world's main cocoa producing areas, really hit

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01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 25: hard by unusually dry web in recent years, and where

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01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 25: some multiple manufacturers have tried to absorb the prices. It's

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01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 25: now thought that in order to maintain quality, prices have

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Speaker 25: to rise. But not just the prices of eggs risen.

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Speaker 25: There is often a combined what we call shrink flation.

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01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 25: In other words, the eggs way less or are smaller

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Speaker 25: than the previous year, and yet are still being charged

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Speaker 25: a little bit more. Go check out those prices in

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Speaker 25: New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Run Yeah we have actually, Gavin. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gray, a UK correspondent nine minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: If you are interested, this is from New World. Cabaret

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Speaker 3: cream eggs forty grams two dollars twenty nine each. I

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01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 3: can remember when they were dollar, but that was years ago.

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Speaker 3: Lind Gold milk bunny one hundred grams nine to ninety

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01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: nine Cabriy dairy milk marshmallow eggs one hundred and fifty

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01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 3: grams six dollars thirty nine each.

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Speaker 20: Each.

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Speaker 3: That is expensive, isn't it? If you can remember what

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01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 3: they were last year? Let us know, But who really can.

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Speaker 3: It's eight minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather tops Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 3: News Talks VB. It is five minutes away from seven now.

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Speaker 3: Normally I don't read nice texts because I think it's

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01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 3: a little self indulgent. When you host it there and

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01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 3: reads out nice things people are saying about them, it's like, oh, shush,

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01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 3: but I will Today from Miles, Miles says Ryan, really

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Speaker 3: enjoying your shows and opinions. You are knowledgeable and sightful

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Speaker 3: and make intelligent statements. I'm sorry I've been wrong. I

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Speaker 3: always thought you were a bit of an idiot. Thanks, Miles.

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Speaker 3: Do you know the secret source here? As Miles, I

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01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 3: am ah. That made me laugh. Right, it's Friday. What

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Speaker 3: are we going out to? Ants?

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Speaker 11: Are We're going out with an absolute banger today? Ryan, Because,

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Speaker 11: as you mentioned in the last Break Symphony Festival, is

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Speaker 11: happening in Auckland over the weekend. It's happening in the

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Speaker 11: Auckland Domain tomorrow. There it is yes Basement Jack Romeo

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01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 11: to play us out tonight Basement Jack's. I mean you

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01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 11: could say they're headlining because they're playing last. They'll be

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01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 11: playing at ten pm, but I think most people are

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01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 11: probably going for the orchestra playing all the darks things,

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Speaker 11: so it'll be happening at eighty music right.

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Speaker 6: Through the day though from two thirty though.

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Speaker 3: Should be good, very much looking forward to going to this. Miles.

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Speaker 3: This is dedicated to you this evening, thanks to your

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01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 3: lovely message, and have a fantastic week and everyone see

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01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:44,520
Speaker 3: you on Mondays.

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Speaker 4: You can.

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Speaker 23: You know we can make mine.

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01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 16: Because when you get it, I'm so so.

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01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 3: You used to be my money really.

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Speaker 2: Been quiet.

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