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Speaker 1: ten the greatest.
Speaker 5: New Zealander of all time at rages on.
Speaker 1: I've just realized that we didn't touch on it yesterday,
Speaker 1: but it was the Mad Butcher versus Tammy from Briscoes.
Speaker 3: One that's massively one sided.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Briscoes lady and she got wasted. The Mad Butcher,
Speaker 1: I think he is beloved. I don't know that the
Speaker 1: Briscoes Lady is beloved.
Speaker 3: No, I think she's revered.
Speaker 4: And revered in the retail space, but beloved probably not.
Speaker 4: She should have come up against She's more than Magnus,
Speaker 4: Ben Rose, John and Adrian. You know, I think that
Speaker 4: would be a ding dong. Yeah, between John and Adrian
Speaker 4: and the Briscoes Lady. I think a retail head to head.
Speaker 4: But Mad Butcher he transcends the retail butcher store into
Speaker 4: you know, an actual personality warrior. Is he's knighted, Yes,
Speaker 4: you know he's I think he's he's more relatable than
Speaker 4: Tammy and like.
Speaker 1: You say, at a broader appeal. You know, he's done
Speaker 1: so much within the community of rugby. League of Butchering
Speaker 1: interviewed himwhaalagas. I didn't know how he got started as
Speaker 1: like the Mad Butcher. He was just a butcher and
Speaker 1: he used to ring into like newstalk z B or
Speaker 1: something and just go office chops about it might have
Speaker 1: him been radio sport office chops about whatever it was
Speaker 1: that they were talking about, and so then they saved
Speaker 1: him in their little system as the mad Butcher because
Speaker 1: he was just a butcher and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it sort of took off from there.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the media, media created him. Media created him.
Speaker 4: So we didn't touch on Bears smoked Martin Crow too.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, you there so, But you're saying today, Tomorrow
Speaker 4: and Sunday.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, sorry, Sunday is there's a real.
Speaker 3: Real ding Gong's coming out?
Speaker 1: Well today, this one breaks my heart. It's Simon Mannoring
Speaker 1: withs Stacy Jones today. I feel like within the country,
Speaker 1: Simon Mannering's not far behind Stacy Jones in terms of
Speaker 1: what he did for the club.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But I just think that Stacy Jones, like you said
Speaker 1: about the Mad Butcher, he just sort of transcends about
Speaker 1: He's still relevant. You know, we on the med Monday
Speaker 1: podcast on Funnily Enough Monday, Ben Hurley did Hurley's Heroes
Speaker 1: and it was Simon Mannering. Yeah, and you know, all
Speaker 1: of the stats and facts around him, three hundred and
Speaker 1: one games for the club. There's a mural of him
Speaker 1: out there. He's now a builder around the Nelson Marlborough area,
Speaker 1: I believe. But Stacy Jones, you know, so he sort
Speaker 1: of disappeared off into obscurity. But Stacy Jones still rolling
Speaker 1: durries in the coach's box, coach of the Kiwi's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just belove it isn't he.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Simon Mannering, I.
Speaker 5: Just yeah, as the greatest New Zealander in that battle. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's a great in New Zealander Jones.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and in my mind, I mean I'm just picking sides. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but tomorrow's Tomorrow's going to be interesting. We haven't went
Speaker 4: to Saturday, so we won't be on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we need to address it now. And this
Speaker 1: is Joan Ohlomo versus Colin Meads, and actually quite topical
Speaker 1: because the documentary about Jonah's life has just been greenlit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got halfway through and then there was an issue
Speaker 1: around who had who owned the trademark for Jonah.
Speaker 5: I think that went through the court. So now they've
Speaker 5: picked it back up again.
Speaker 3: Well quite controversial, really, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Because Jonah Lomu gifted his entire IP to his lawyer. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not his wife, Yeah, but to his lawyer, and quite
Speaker 4: relatively forward thinking from Jonah because so it's not obviously
Speaker 4: his lawyer doesn't benefit from it any Any money made
Speaker 4: from the youth's IP goes to his sons through a
Speaker 4: trust right. So he's trusted his lawyer to say, use
Speaker 4: my IP, and anything you make from it goes to
Speaker 4: my sons.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Skipping out the wife. Yeah, she's just like, what
Speaker 5: the fuck, that's my husband. You can't tell me that
Speaker 5: you own, you know, but it was.
Speaker 4: It's his last will and testament and the and the
Speaker 4: law and the courts have said that's what he wanted.
Speaker 5: Sorry, it's just another one of those like everyone's right,
Speaker 5: but unfortunately the courts are going to say this way, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he was your husband, you should have say on whatever
Speaker 5: happens with But unfortunately there were pieces of paper that
Speaker 5: was signed and he knew something. Long short of that
Speaker 5: is we get to watch a Jonah docco and I
Speaker 5: think that because I think there's going to be a
Speaker 5: massive there'll be a generation of people who never got
Speaker 5: to see him. I only just got to see him,
Speaker 5: you know, in the sort of waning years of his career.
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know. I was four and ninety five,
Speaker 1: so I don't really remember it.
Speaker 4: I watched Jonah play school boy rugby as a fourth
Speaker 4: former Real Wesley College played our school in Hamilton and
Speaker 4: the top four. He was playing number eight against Saint
Speaker 4: Paul's Collegiate and obviously he was enormous and they were
Speaker 4: getting owned in the front row Wesley by our school
Speaker 4: who had a pretty formidable front row when I was
Speaker 4: a fourteen year old, and they just put him in
Speaker 4: the front row.
Speaker 3: And he just buckled, absolutely buckled our front row.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh God, this guy is an absolute
Speaker 4: freak show. And then I think he played for the
Speaker 4: All Blacks a year later. Everyone knew he was coming
Speaker 4: through the ranks. It was like a it was you're
Speaker 4: watching school with rugby and he was.
Speaker 1: Like, holy shit, what was that? It was like, my god,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen anything. Look, I love that that he's
Speaker 1: that much better than everyone else.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, where are we having problems off front row?
Speaker 5: You check them in front row? Right?
Speaker 1: Did the halfback ever see the ball out of a
Speaker 1: scrum when he was at number eight?
Speaker 3: No, not when he could.
Speaker 4: It was one of those players that he did the minimum,
Speaker 4: not the maximum, so if they were down, he would
Speaker 4: take it off the back of scrum. Every time they
Speaker 4: did beat us by about five points and he had
Speaker 4: to step up in the second half, and when he did,
Speaker 4: he was like I remember seeing about seven guys hanging
Speaker 4: off them once, just like holding on for dear life,
Speaker 4: trying to get him to the ground because I guess
Speaker 4: his entire life he would have just been so much
Speaker 4: better than everyone else.
Speaker 5: It's like, don't be a waker.
Speaker 3: I've seen him on a Swiss ball.
Speaker 4: He used to do squats on a Swiss ball with
Speaker 4: like one hundred kigs on his shoulders on a Swiss ball.
Speaker 5: That was how standing on top of him?
Speaker 4: Yes, Jesus, yeah, it was next level he because he
Speaker 4: hung out with kiddie armor quite a lot down in Wellington.
Speaker 3: Hence he's got his kidney.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, and you were with them, Yes, yeah, I did. So.
Speaker 3: I spent a little bit of not heap of time
Speaker 3: with Jonah.
Speaker 5: He was you laying claim to his ip and estate.
Speaker 5: I will go on here.
Speaker 4: Look, I've been in touch with his lawyer and we're
Speaker 4: going to recreate the time that I did a bodybuilding
Speaker 4: competition and Jonah trained with us.
Speaker 5: He did. That's because he did bodybuilding.
Speaker 4: He did what was that a bit well he I
Speaker 4: mean he couldn't compete to anyone.
Speaker 5: No one year.
Speaker 4: He wanted to get fit again, and I think him
Speaker 4: and Grant and I entered I think maybe I think
Speaker 4: it was a mister Wellington comp and he just wanted
Speaker 4: to trim down and get in shape, so he did
Speaker 4: a bit of bodybuilding. He was a unit man, but
Speaker 4: nicest guy, nicest guy on.
Speaker 1: Earth and a legend of the game. Totally like God
Speaker 1: bless pine Tree.
Speaker 5: Too much black and white footage. I don't think he's
Speaker 5: going to win this.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is either.
Speaker 5: I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you anything about the way Pine Tree
Speaker 1: played rugby.
Speaker 4: He was a legend in his day because he was
Speaker 4: just he was big, uncompromising back in the day when
Speaker 4: there was a bit of there's any argy, barge on
Speaker 4: the field, you see Colin and knock the fuck out, Yeah,
Speaker 4: knock him out and then carry on. Farmer from Tika Witty,
Speaker 4: Soul to the Earth. My granddad he's from Tika Witty
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: I had a farm out there. Would always get.
Speaker 4: Confused for Colin Meads similar bills loved the massive ears. Yeah,
Speaker 4: played a bit of code, looked like kind of well
Speaker 4: foot a little bit.
Speaker 5: This is going to sound like a lie, but I
Speaker 5: once got confused for John Olmu.
Speaker 3: Kind of sounds kind of sounds like a lie.
Speaker 5: I was at a like a bar, were you in Wales,
Speaker 5: New Zealand? Boys out the front of the bar? Is
Speaker 5: that yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he guys smaller in real life.
Speaker 5: It was still quick though, but yeah, so jonas Pine
Speaker 5: Tree tomorrow.
Speaker 1: That is really going to pass a few people off,
Speaker 1: I think. And then on Sunday it's the Motor Games.
Speaker 1: Enthusiasts are up McLaren versus John Britton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, McLaren's taken that out.
Speaker 1: I think it was much shorter odds when we have
Speaker 1: poor Muliady from the tab putting this together. So yeah,
Speaker 1: those are what you have to look forward to over
Speaker 1: the weekend and hopefully something for you to you know,
Speaker 1: debate discuss at the pub across the weekend. Hopefully we've
Speaker 1: sparked a few discussions. I know that the Trump photo
Speaker 1: that we posted last night head have you seen that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the portrait of him in in a cricketing vest,
Speaker 4: which is a very preppy, ye kind of Stanford.
Speaker 3: Princeton vibe, you know, like a pre Ivy League Ivy League.
Speaker 5: Some transporter in the comments is like, I actually think
Speaker 5: it's a tennis It's all right, it's actually probably a
Speaker 5: golf outfit.
Speaker 1: Who knows it looks like he's playing cricket. And so
Speaker 1: we posted up there, what do you think people would would?
Speaker 1: What would he bowl? I thought he'd bowl to chain
Speaker 1: it man. But the comments on this have just been tremendous.
Speaker 1: I wanted to read a couple of them to you.
Speaker 1: The first song came to it said he would bowl tremendous,
Speaker 1: tremendous stuff.
Speaker 5: No one's ever seen a spell of bowling this good,
Speaker 5: No one, no one? Yeah, he said so beautiful. Then
Speaker 5: it's really hard to define. You guys are gonna love
Speaker 5: it so much? Is that carpman? Or is it?
Speaker 1: I'm going to it, although I'm not sure the world
Speaker 1: is ready for it. It's something as friend Vladimir and
Speaker 1: the guy they used to call the rocket Man call
Speaker 1: a real bang it. It's gonna be great. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be huge, so very very huge. You guys are gonna
Speaker 1: love it. Another one. He's going to bowl the ball.
Speaker 1: It'll be a great ball, maybe one of the greatest.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I mean. No one
Speaker 1: knows how to bowl like I do. I'm going to
Speaker 1: get that ball bowled.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get Mexico to pay for it and make
Speaker 5: cricket great again.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 5: Getting Mexico to pay for it is good.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: One of the best Halloween costumes overhead was I was
Speaker 1: dressed up as a wall and my friend he was
Speaker 1: dressed up as a Mexican and he paid for my costume.
Speaker 5: And I stood in front of him for the whole
Speaker 5: night everywhere we went. I don't really get your costumes
Speaker 5: that he paid for it.
Speaker 3: Oh that's good.
Speaker 4: That's like when Matt he turned up to a dress
Speaker 4: up party. It was an American theme and he dressed
Speaker 4: up as Donald Trump. Oh yeah, but he over over
Speaker 4: the overdid the ten and he came as full Barack
Speaker 4: Obama blackface and everyone was like, bro, and he's like
Speaker 4: I'm Trump. He guys, you're not You're not giving you're
Speaker 4: not giving Trump vibes. You're giving very much the Obama vibe.
Speaker 5: And he's like.
Speaker 4: The fu fuck and he was trying to wash it
Speaker 4: off at the party. Didn't come off.
Speaker 3: It was a disaster.
Speaker 5: That's a hate crime. Yeah, are the photos of the
Speaker 5: Joe Jury's got the photos. Jo Jury has a mess
Speaker 5: of dossier on every run of the a sec of
Speaker 5: all the different photos. Yeah, I taken out of context.
Speaker 1: It could be very very He also made me dress
Speaker 1: up as a monkey one time for a for a
Speaker 1: photo shoot.
Speaker 3: I've seen you dressed up as a Nazi.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've made I've been made to dress I was
Speaker 1: made to dress up like a Nazi. But that that
Speaker 1: was another one of those ones where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: can you come down and do this video shop?
Speaker 5: Was that for the last Olympics?
Speaker 4: I think it was for Champagne Rugby when we talked
Speaker 4: about who made you?
Speaker 3: Sorry something Nazi? And you just walked into the shot
Speaker 3: and we're like no, no, no, not that kind of Nazi.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're like, can you come down? Are we
Speaker 5: going to do a shoot? I was told it was
Speaker 5: something to do with Steve Irwin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone was dressed as a thing, right, Joe was
Speaker 1: Tom was dressed to Steve Irwin And then they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's your costume and like I already had a mustache,
Speaker 1: but then I had to put like a fake mustache
Speaker 1: on on top of it. I think it got sent
Speaker 1: back to whoever was sponsoring Champagne Rugby at that time,
Speaker 1: and they were like, absolutely not, did not post that,
Speaker 1: and so that's still out there. Yeah, I forgot this
Speaker 1: footage of me dressed as a Nazi there.
Speaker 4: You know when there's those big hacks that go on
Speaker 4: and they slowly leak all the documents over time. If
Speaker 4: somebody ever hacks into Joe Jury's computer and just slowly
Speaker 4: leaks the photo, that's going to be the end of
Speaker 4: quite a number of people.
Speaker 1: There's the photo of you in the dress from just
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, from the head of you, you'd swapped
Speaker 5: clothes with the head of legal from our company.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a great photo, No, it was a great
Speaker 4: She looked way better in my clothes, I'll give you that.
Speaker 1: Then, oh look, you looked okay in in the sequin
Speaker 1: sparkling dress. It was just the fact that you were maggot.
Speaker 5: That really got that really gave it away.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of sports actually happening this weekend. Let's
Speaker 1: take a break, regroup, compose ourselves, run through the roll
Speaker 1: adeics of hate crimes we've committed in the past, and
Speaker 1: then come back and talk about the actual sport that's
Speaker 1: happening this weekend. The All Blacks team has been named
Speaker 1: over the weekend sorry overnight, as it always does, is
Speaker 1: named immediately after we finished recording this podcast on a Thursday,
Speaker 1: so we haven't seen it.
Speaker 5: Not too many changes.
Speaker 3: I'm just not a massive surprise obviously.
Speaker 4: The big talking point is Sam Kine back into the team,
Speaker 4: coming off the bench, coming off the pitch.
Speaker 5: He hasn't played since something like February or March.
Speaker 3: Yeah, given twenty minutes though, that's all he needs.
Speaker 4: And I think we talked about it on Monday post
Speaker 4: the game. It was when they emptied the bench in
Speaker 4: that last fifteen that the Ford Pack just looked a
Speaker 4: little bit lost.
Speaker 3: The line out was in disarray. Yes, it was just
Speaker 3: lost shape a little bit.
Speaker 1: To be fair to Argentina, their line out was sick
Speaker 1: like they had obviously been like we're going to line
Speaker 1: out the fuck out of these guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in the first half we had a Our
Speaker 4: lineup was foldless in the first half, you know, Darius Rucker,
Speaker 4: Sam Dowry was on fire, it was looking great and
Speaker 4: then it just felled to bits in the second half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a pretty good moves. The old argis. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of stuff online saying, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the redemption arc of Sam Kine.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't feel that way.
Speaker 1: Like, do you think that people out there feel like
Speaker 1: he let us down in that Rugby World Cup final?
Speaker 5: No? I don't think so either.
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: I think everyone was in a grance that because that
Speaker 1: whole year had been like the rules are fucking stupid,
Speaker 1: it's going to affect a massive impactful game, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. And I don't think anyone looked at
Speaker 1: that and went, jeez, Sam Kaine let us down.
Speaker 5: We're like Rugby needs to sort their rules out. They
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And prime example is that was in the weekend
Speaker 4: with Ethan Blackhead are getting hit butted oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And then discussing whether he should be sent off.
Speaker 4: He got bumped off on his ass and they're like, look,
Speaker 4: I know you're embarrassed that you got he's out in
Speaker 4: your ears. So just going to maybe, yeah, just tack
Speaker 4: that embarrassment and sit on the naughty seat, you.
Speaker 5: Know, you don't get to play anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So I don't think. I've just seen a few stories
Speaker 1: saying Sam Kine's back, you know, has shot it redemption.
Speaker 1: I don't say it that way. I don't think really,
Speaker 1: to be honest, anyone does. I wonder if they were
Speaker 1: just looking for a bit of a headline there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Joanne's back, Yeah, Rico's back?
Speaker 5: What's that about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I thought Anton
Speaker 3: Leonart Brown is he starting?
Speaker 4: Aton leonnet Brown? Is Joanne's on the bench? No, Jordi
Speaker 4: Barrett Rico janis starting?
Speaker 5: Is he? I thought?
Speaker 4: Because I thought dough Bro played pretty well against Argentinian,
Speaker 4: so very solid. Maybe this is a chance for Rico,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe he's got a little shot up his
Speaker 4: us that he needs it. I don't know who knows
Speaker 4: what's going on and raise his head, But yeah, t J.
Speaker 4: Pittinada is starting again and the return of Caleb Kardashian yep,
Speaker 4: Jack Jeb with the butt back on Eden Park.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good call.
Speaker 1: I think it is to him and Will Jordan, So
Speaker 1: you know, I've swapped the wingers around entirely from where
Speaker 1: they were against England.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think Will Jordan has to
Speaker 1: be on the field. Yeah, you got to find a
Speaker 1: place for him. And then that does free your bench
Speaker 1: up to just carry a winger, which they have as
Speaker 1: mark Talia. Because you've got four full backs on the
Speaker 1: starting field. You got d Mac, You've got Jordi Barrett,
Speaker 1: You've got Will Jordan and you've got Body Barrett. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you've got four of them.
Speaker 5: Watch bear.
Speaker 1: I think Jordi Barrett was in this morning. He was
Speaker 1: doing the car wash here it is, Yeah, him and
Speaker 1: Dalton Papa. You don't preach looking looking, fighting fit. How
Speaker 1: do you think this game goes?
Speaker 3: I think the All Blacks win. I think they bounced back.
Speaker 4: They remember last the last time the Argentinians beat the
Speaker 4: All Blacks, they got absolutely spanked a week later.
Speaker 5: Yea.
Speaker 4: But saying that they look pretty tidy. The Argentinians they
Speaker 4: kind of know how to counter the All Blacks and
Speaker 4: how to upset them, and that is basically through the forwards,
Speaker 4: through the line out, scrums, breakdown.
Speaker 3: They were pretty immense in that second half.
Speaker 4: But I mean I know this sounds like a classic
Speaker 4: All Blacks, but I think the All Blacks this time
Speaker 4: will have enough impetus and motivation to beat them.
Speaker 3: And I've gone.
Speaker 4: I was on Herdechi this morning and my hunch with
Speaker 4: them was a same game mold. Because you can do
Speaker 4: the same game multi three miss a league, you get
Speaker 4: your money back in bones bits. So I've gone All
Speaker 4: Blacks to win All Blacks between one to twelve, and
Speaker 4: due to the fact there's going to be a little
Speaker 4: bit of rain, under fifty one and a half points total.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't five bucks. I don't mind that the
Speaker 5: All Backs are the shortest favorites, like they're about a
Speaker 5: dollar seventeen, yeah, which doesn't make a lot of sense
Speaker 5: to me after watching them just lose by eight points.
Speaker 3: Yea and Argentina back to five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, which seems like a good bit of happiness insurance.
Speaker 5: I'm with you. I don't think they'll win, but I
Speaker 5: didn't think that'd win last week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm unsure because they played so well, the Argentinians, and
Speaker 4: they look so composed, yeah, last week, and they looked
Speaker 4: they broke our line so many times they's scored fucking
Speaker 4: thirty eight points against.
Speaker 5: The All Blacks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unheard of by su Forka, Australia or England,
Speaker 4: let alone Argentina.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: And the whole time I was watching the game, I
Speaker 1: was sort of waiting for us to like, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: going to win it, Yeah, win it.
Speaker 5: And then we didn't. Yeah. Oh I was at the
Speaker 5: final whistle fuck yeah.
Speaker 4: And then when there was that, Yeah, we talked about
Speaker 4: the money when they ran the clockdown. It was classic
Speaker 4: rugby league behavior. But yeah, So that's seven o'clock on
Speaker 4: Saturday night. You're on the call with Matt Heath. Some
Speaker 4: people saying that since you haven't called a Warriors win,
Speaker 4: you may be the curse that lets your black.
Speaker 5: What are the rules? Now? Fuck it out? I thought
Speaker 5: it was me and Chris were a curse for the Warriors.
Speaker 5: Now it's me. Now it's not even the Warriors.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to fleck it.
Speaker 5: PARTE. Are the rules at that point?
Speaker 2: Rule?
Speaker 1: The biggest cus that we've managed to pry Matt Heath
Speaker 1: away from a corporate box at Eaton Park.
Speaker 4: Oh, he wasn't committed and apparently got last minute call
Speaker 4: up to a corporate box. But he's committed to us,
Speaker 4: he's committed to the commentary. You know, he's committed to
Speaker 4: the audience. Yeah, well, God bless him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he'll bring it up a couple of
Speaker 1: times on the commentary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's myself and Heath Tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Back on Skysport nine, thank god, back.
Speaker 1: On Skysport nine, you know, our cultural, spiritual home. But
Speaker 1: because god, we got a lot of backlash last time.
Speaker 3: Sky Sports Select.
Speaker 5: Sorry about that on the wrong channel.
Speaker 1: Oh, just just quickly on the game. The other changes
Speaker 1: were to Mighty Williams comes of Ethan Degrut who got injured.
Speaker 1: I don't recall it, but apparently it did happen. And
Speaker 1: then that's about it. Blackadder, papoli Ardie Savier. It's powerful.
Speaker 3: That is a powerful back three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think that the all Becks are going to win
Speaker 1: the dollars seventeen is ridiculous. I don't think that's I
Speaker 1: don't think I think that's a fear reflection. Also, it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's a sellout.
Speaker 5: They're still still flogging tickets, flogging tickets at the moment.
Speaker 5: I love when you see an ad that's saying, hey,
Speaker 5: tickets are selling fast. It's like, why are you telling me.
Speaker 3: Then final release?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I was like, okay, that's our selling so well,
Speaker 5: why do you need me to buy one? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It's a concern, isn't it. It is a massive concern.
Speaker 1: It's like when a real estate agent tells you you
Speaker 1: need to sign off right now, or if you go home,
Speaker 1: this might sell to someone else. This is what this
Speaker 1: dude just trying to do to me in this car
Speaker 1: park one day. I was like, then, why do you
Speaker 1: care if I buy it? What does it matter to you?
Speaker 1: Who buys it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Like you.
Speaker 3: If you've got another buyer, they sell it to him.
Speaker 5: Why are you waiting for me? I'll just go you
Speaker 5: sell it to someone else. Why are you accosting me
Speaker 5: in this car pack? You fucking vampire? Anyway, shout out
Speaker 5: till the rest. Shout out to real estate agents worldwide. God,
Speaker 5: where would we be without you? But anyway, they.
Speaker 1: Are they siphoning money out of an otherwise closed system. Yes,
Speaker 1: when I sell you this guitar right here, do I
Speaker 1: need to pay anyone else?
Speaker 5: Know? Why is it that with houses? Anyway? I dugress
Speaker 5: steell tickets, but getting fast to.
Speaker 1: The All Blacks game Final release, Final release, Mate. You
Speaker 1: don't want to miss out, so make sure that you
Speaker 1: get down there are. The uf SEA is also on
Speaker 1: this weekend as well, Lane, Yeah, is this an all
Speaker 1: Kiwi fair It's basically yeah. So it's UFC three or five.
Speaker 1: It's over there in Perth. The Aussies are playing against
Speaker 1: South Africa the same night as well. Jesus, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a hell of a weekend over there in per.
Speaker 5: And it is.
Speaker 1: It's almost an all Kiwi cards. We've got Kay Carter
Speaker 1: France is fighting. Dan Hookers also fighting, and the main
Speaker 1: event of the evening will be Israel. This son, your
Speaker 1: fighting against dricks Pussy. This is the Battle of Africa, Yes,
Speaker 1: battle for the true African Champ. So yeah, if you
Speaker 1: don't know dricas is. The guy's a white South African
Speaker 1: gentleman and he's calling himself the only true African champ
Speaker 1: in the UFC because he's the.
Speaker 5: Only one who actually lives there, you know. So that
Speaker 5: has really Israel off.
Speaker 1: Quick recap on how we got here is he beat
Speaker 1: Alex Pereira in the rematch, knocked them out that the
Speaker 1: bow and arrow thing. Then he fought Sean Strickland. Yes,
Speaker 1: who is the most u is the most cage fighting
Speaker 1: looking dude of all time? Strickland? Strickland beat is he?
Speaker 1: Then do plus C beat Strickland? So dupless? He has
Speaker 1: the belt? Yes, that is he lost?
Speaker 5: I see.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: So if Israelisaunya wins this weekend, which I think he will,
Speaker 1: he'll get the belt back. And Sean Strickland has apparently
Speaker 1: been promised the winner of this fight. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different sort of machinations going on.
Speaker 3: So and when is it Saturday?
Speaker 5: Sunday?
Speaker 3: Sunday?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they do the Father's Day.
Speaker 1: Wherever the cards are around the world, they line them
Speaker 1: up so that they're at the prime time for America, right,
Speaker 1: which means that the mainline, the headline is usually on
Speaker 1: at like three or four in the afternoon on a
Speaker 1: Sunday here for us. But beer in mind that Perth
Speaker 1: is five hours behind us, so that's about eleven o'clock.
Speaker 5: In the morning in Perth.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dudes are there from like five six
Speaker 1: in the morning preloading, preloading on the purse. Cut to
Speaker 1: about nine ten am in Perth, and dudes are just
Speaker 1: punching on.
Speaker 4: That's an all night of situation, isn't it. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: going to the rugby the night before, going all night,
Speaker 4: just straight and maybe a couple of pineapple lollies and
Speaker 4: then straight into the UFC.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Israe to SNY.
Speaker 1: I think it's fairly even odds on the two of them,
Speaker 1: as he would be favored by about fifteen cents or something.
Speaker 4: If as He drops this one, there is some concern
Speaker 4: about what he's gonna get up to for the rest
Speaker 4: of this Nah.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because he's still enough of a
Speaker 1: draw card and he's active enough, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's not like Condor McGregor, where we haven't seen him
Speaker 1: fight in like three or four years. So no, I
Speaker 1: think if as He loses this one, then it'll be
Speaker 1: Dricers versus Strickland. And I still think we would want
Speaker 1: to see azz He fight whoever lost that one, you know,
Speaker 1: for another chance at the title. I think he's still
Speaker 1: a massive, massive draw card in the UFC, and it
Speaker 1: always prompts a talk of like when are we going
Speaker 1: to see another card in Auckland because we haven't had
Speaker 1: one in ages. Azrae Artison, you're basically told we're going
Speaker 1: to get fucked. He's never bringing a card back here
Speaker 1: again after they all got kicked out of their gym
Speaker 1: in lockdown. But I think it's starting to sound like
Speaker 1: it might be a bit closer. I think he's starting
Speaker 1: to feel the love from the New Zealand media a
Speaker 1: bit more so. Yeah, but that is on Sunday as
Speaker 1: also a whole host of Australians fighting in that card
Speaker 1: as well, so that'll be good watching on a Sunday.
Speaker 5: Also great watching UFC.
Speaker 1: I've sait it before or say it again, my favorite
Speaker 1: sport to watch when I'm hungover because it's so good
Speaker 1: to see someone having a worse day than I am.
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what you get to see.
Speaker 1: You have to see a man getting his eyebrows split
Speaker 1: open and his undies in front of millions of people
Speaker 1: around the world.
Speaker 5: You're at least I'm not him.
Speaker 4: When's the press conference, because that's my favorite. The press
Speaker 4: conference for UFC is hands down my favorite. When they
Speaker 4: line them up in their terraces and then they just
Speaker 4: start abusing each other even when they're not even fighting
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 5: I feel like that might be today.
Speaker 4: I love that, and they always give out us on
Speaker 4: your shit about whacking off to anime porn.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is wild and this is broadcast live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's talking about, man, you whack after anime
Speaker 4: and he's like, fuck it, dude, No, it's.
Speaker 5: Just like fucking wild.
Speaker 1: This is what It's taken so long for the mainstream
Speaker 1: media to pick up on UFC because they can't wrap
Speaker 1: their head or out of it. What the fuck Like
Speaker 1: if you've got a you know, a sports journalists in
Speaker 1: New Zealand, all they've ever reported on is rugby union, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is missionary the antithesis the players are very similar
Speaker 1: tot UFC fighters that don't let them talk about that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Then these guys couldn't give a shit
Speaker 1: because you got to think about the mind of a
Speaker 1: man who would fight another man in a cage and
Speaker 1: his under his four A job. Obviously he's going to
Speaker 1: be a bit nuts. Yeah, And so they say the
Speaker 1: wildest shit in the UFC has done a great job
Speaker 1: of been like, look, fuck it, this is who they are.
Speaker 3: Imagine that. I mean, we've talked about this at ruggy players.
Speaker 4: If say, if Kayleb Clark came out and just said
Speaker 4: kadat is his opposite number. I am going to snap
Speaker 4: you in half like a twig. You come at me,
Speaker 4: I am going to murder you. Yeah, and him come
Speaker 4: back and go you're slow, I will. I've stepped grandmothers
Speaker 4: than you, you useless piece of shit.
Speaker 5: Piece of shit. And they weren't even playing last week
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 3: The game you'd be like, get it to kayleb clak,
Speaker 3: get it to is. I want to see them go.
Speaker 5: Heare to hear. I've been saying this for the longest time.
Speaker 1: I think a big problem in New Zealand why it
Speaker 1: won't happen with Super Rugby is because those guys all
Speaker 1: have to play together for the Blacks.
Speaker 4: I know, but it's all surely a year older and international?
Speaker 4: Yeah international, fine, but surely you're older. I mean it's
Speaker 4: scrumming up business. You know, when you can abuse someone
Speaker 4: in the office, which I've done recently, and you move on.
Speaker 3: And you carry on.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you because I feel like Boden
Speaker 1: Barrett got away with moving from the Hurricanes to the
Speaker 1: Blue scot Free.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No one said anything about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah they should. There should have been loads of smack talks.
Speaker 4: Can't wait till you run it straight, suffer am He's
Speaker 4: going to fold you enjoying awkward?
Speaker 5: Did you get a bunch of Instagram followers for it? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: How's how's the Graham going?
Speaker 5: Do you see Matt Heath in the corporate box?
Speaker 3: You know you're hanging out with Eth now?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think the trash.
Speaker 1: I've said before they should have the press conferences for
Speaker 1: Super Rugby games and have the captains and coaches sitting
Speaker 1: up on the dass.
Speaker 5: Figure it all out.
Speaker 1: Huge rumors coming out of the Gulf world Apparently Live
Speaker 1: is going to be coming to New Zealand.
Speaker 5: The headlines came out this morning overnight.
Speaker 1: Roomors have been circulating that they're going to bring it
Speaker 1: to christ Church, possibly as early as next year.
Speaker 5: The year Old Understands is reporting allegedly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That they're looking at the possibility of bringing a high
Speaker 1: profile tournament to christ Chooch Golf Club, New Zealand's second
Speaker 1: oldest club. When they talk to the guy Mike Hadley,
Speaker 1: who's the general manager there, he said that Live officials
Speaker 1: did visit the course, but they haven't heard from them yet.
Speaker 3: And shock horror, New Zealand's oldest golfer is not happy.
Speaker 5: It's Jason hid play golf.
Speaker 3: Bob Charles has come out and said I don't want
Speaker 3: any part of it.
Speaker 4: I was like, Buddy mass respect, You're amazing golfer, was
Speaker 4: someone of the world's best left handers. I don't think
Speaker 4: you're the poster boy for live golf, so I think
Speaker 4: you're going to be fine. I think you're going to
Speaker 4: be okay. I don't think they're gonna you don't have
Speaker 4: to be part of it. I don't think you're going
Speaker 4: to be on the poster because the demograph that they're
Speaker 4: aiming for aren't going to go. Fuck Bob's going to
Speaker 4: be their fucking neck and pass on the fucking party hole. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's strange they got him to come on it.
Speaker 4: It's like when they used to get Colin Meads or
Speaker 4: Walter Headley to comment on the modern game of cricket
Speaker 4: or rugby and Colina say they don't even eat enough
Speaker 4: red meat.
Speaker 3: Walter Headley would say they're not doing you know, they're
Speaker 3: not in the nets long enough for they're not like
Speaker 3: they just get some cliche. That's the same with Bob.
Speaker 3: Bob's I don't want to be involved. So the headliners,
Speaker 3: Bob Charles, they someone anything to do with live.
Speaker 1: That's why they packed them before, before they even asked them,
Speaker 1: they had the article written.
Speaker 5: They're let usk Bob Charles and the records. He's going
Speaker 5: to tell us the funk off and then we'll make
Speaker 5: that the headline.
Speaker 3: He said they'd been far too disruptive for the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, ship. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: When I worked in the mainstream media, the whole Fozzy
Speaker 1: Razor thing was going on. I just call Laurie Mains
Speaker 1: every other day. But what do you make of all
Speaker 1: of this lorry bullshit?
Speaker 5: Wouldn't I have a beck in my day? Blah blah
Speaker 5: blah blah.
Speaker 4: That is out of the park anyway, great idea, Yes,
Speaker 4: any government funding we've got that we're not spent on
Speaker 4: the America's Cup, throw it to christ Church and get
Speaker 4: live there.
Speaker 3: I'm there and heartbeat and you watch I reckon.
Speaker 4: They would get twenty thousand people there and a live
Speaker 4: event in christ Church, a great place to do it.
Speaker 3: Auckland's a bit apathetic on that shite.
Speaker 1: Christ Hurt should be perfect And while everyone's looking at
Speaker 1: the golf course, Russell Kurtz can go out there and
Speaker 1: just clear Akado Harbor out of all of the Hecter's dolphins.
Speaker 4: Dynamite Akado Harbor. Bring the sale GP back to christ.
Speaker 5: He Yeah, I don't know lives ready for the Canterbury
Speaker 5: level of maggot.
Speaker 3: That I don't know. Adelaide Adelaide is.
Speaker 4: Adelaide got voted the best live event in the world,
Speaker 4: and ausis and we're talking countrysies here to Adelaide.
Speaker 3: It's not Sydney.
Speaker 5: I think they do call it the christ Urch Australia.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: It's flat, flat as anything, a little bit religious sometimes,
Speaker 4: a lot of cathedrals and churches around. I agree with you,
Speaker 4: there is a level there that I mean, having experienced
Speaker 4: a number of black clashes, you know. And it's the
Speaker 4: guys who wear the sunglasses when when the same and
Speaker 4: goes down, they put them across their forehead.
Speaker 5: That kind of vibe. Yeah, the concrete cowboys, and there
Speaker 5: are in Williams boots and belts.
Speaker 3: Yes, cashed out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's old money down there. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of old money down there. A lot of insurance swindlers
Speaker 1: down there as some new money. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: love and if it happens, we have to get down.
Speaker 1: I'm whoever's about charge of love.
Speaker 5: Let's just start.
Speaker 4: Pounding them with emails and DM saying I'm happy to
Speaker 4: be involved, heavy to be involved, Heavy to be involved.
Speaker 5: Involved. We'll do anything, literally anything. We have no obliged.
Speaker 5: We don't have any moral objections to what you do.
Speaker 5: We think it's fucking great.
Speaker 3: We'll take We'll take Bob Charles out of the play.
Speaker 5: You rebel.
Speaker 1: All on the Saudi back lift. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll come back with your splits.
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Speaker 1: to this podcast quite religiously.
Speaker 5: We've got five I believe to get through today. First caller,
Speaker 5: heir yours please.
Speaker 7: Frosty Boy. Frosty Boy, his tasty treats will bring you joy.
Speaker 7: Your taste buds will start to tingle when you hear
Speaker 7: his happy jingle, often licked, never beatn Unfortunately I can't
Speaker 7: say the same thing.
Speaker 5: Fuck with Hamilton.
Speaker 4: There you go, see another Frosty Boy fan out there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: often never beaten.
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I forgot that that was his, That that.
Speaker 5: Rings a bell?
Speaker 4: Yeah because I never beat him. Yeah, because you say
Speaker 4: when you hear his jingle. Year, So I think there
Speaker 4: was a rival that. I think Frosty Boy, if I'm going,
Speaker 4: if I'm thinking correctly, was a rival to mister Whippy,
Speaker 4: mister whip, Yeah, because he had his own little chune
Speaker 4: too often licked, never beaten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was the jingle. Yeah, yeah, that does
Speaker 1: ring a bell. That really sparks something in my mind there.
Speaker 1: So Frosty Boy was more your your deary based, but
Speaker 1: I think he I think they had a soft serve
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he hits the road to frosted work at
Speaker 4: the road. Yeah, yeah, least know it's it's somewhere in
Speaker 4: the memory back.
Speaker 5: I might have to do some research. Yeah right, another
Speaker 5: call here, yours please?
Speaker 6: Fuck?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Fair enough, sweet, thank you? Another call here yours please?
Speaker 6: Hey, fellas you cooy yourselves. Sports adjacent journalists got about
Speaker 6: the one of the best throws towards the end of
Speaker 6: the Olympics, the Serbian basketball team being persed as peg
Speaker 6: ship at the middle ceremony. They finished your game straight
Speaker 6: to the Serbian pub in the person for the next
Speaker 6: ten hours. Should Billy stand on the on the podium.
Speaker 6: That was great cheers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't see the middle ceremonies, so I can't
Speaker 3: really comment on that.
Speaker 1: I saw a bit of it, but I have seen
Speaker 1: Yoki is basically on the perss ever since he was
Speaker 1: about twenty four hours later. He was over back in
Speaker 1: Serbia at a horse race. One of his horses was racing,
Speaker 1: and he's just sitting down having a beer. He looks
Speaker 1: ridiculous when he's out in the wild because he is
Speaker 1: seven feet tall, yeah, and sloppy. And he was just
Speaker 1: sitting there and they obviously had like I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was like the owner's box or whatever. Some
Speaker 1: old auntie was just standing there with her phone out.
Speaker 1: Of course she had the like flip case flip case
Speaker 1: with all of her.
Speaker 5: Cards and ones.
Speaker 1: Anyway, she just had the phone filming him in the
Speaker 1: side of his fucking head. Then he sat down turned
Speaker 1: his head away, so then she took another step to
Speaker 1: the side.
Speaker 5: To keep filming. He was like, Kevin, my fucking break.
Speaker 1: He's been on the source for forty eight hours, he
Speaker 1: said to bloody play Lebron James, just go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what more can he do? I also saw him
Speaker 5: in Javo Jarmo Javo Javo, not Jarmo, Jarmo Cretney Zealander, Javo,
Speaker 5: the guy who sneaks into all of the sporting fixtures.
Speaker 5: He was in the of course, he was Olympic closing ceremony.
Speaker 3: You get onto the field.
Speaker 1: Not only did he get on the field, he was
Speaker 1: dressed as in England like a member of the Great
Speaker 1: Britain team. He walked up onto the stage while people
Speaker 1: were performing and they're yelling at him to get off
Speaker 1: the stage.
Speaker 3: So did he get up there when Phoenix are playing
Speaker 3: that kas Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5: I respect that.
Speaker 4: I respect that because it wasn't interrupting play of a game,
Speaker 4: live game. It was just being part of a party
Speaker 4: and taking the pass there because some of his antics
Speaker 4: got started to get a bit tedious for a while there.
Speaker 3: But like being involved in a team photo, funny, that's funny.
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 4: Interrupting a game, live game, not so much going into
Speaker 4: a closing ceremony and getting on stage and partying.
Speaker 3: With athletes, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Gameers, great game winners. One last caller here for a
Speaker 1: Friday yours please.
Speaker 4: Guys, Just first watching eastboundon Down for the twentieth time
Speaker 4: what would be New Zealand's Kinney Powers?
Speaker 6: Who would be New Zealand's Kinney Powers?
Speaker 3: Like who has gone from zero to zero and then
Speaker 3: think I can come back again? All right, that's a
Speaker 3: great question.
Speaker 5: I love Kenny Powers. Has he got like a Pitt
Speaker 5: Magpie in the background.
Speaker 3: Of Key or something? That's a good question and something
Speaker 3: he might have to revisit.
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, I need to.
Speaker 3: I need to go into the memory bank to think
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 5: Yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Maybe something we address on Monday, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: play that out in case it triggered anyone sitting at home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me.
Speaker 4: Would Jesse Rider fit the bill, Yeah, I guess, and
Speaker 4: tried to make a comeback and didn't quite work.
Speaker 1: I guess he had this sort of over the top personality. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of looked a little bit like Kenny Hours.
Speaker 1: And he had the same sort of game, like is
Speaker 1: that a big motor hittingers? Yeah, and then lost it
Speaker 1: all and never try to get it back. I don't
Speaker 1: feel right.
Speaker 4: He had a big personality as well off field, different
Speaker 4: than Kenny Powers.
Speaker 5: You're never gonna have a key with it's like him.
Speaker 3: No, And I don't think Jesse writer owned a jetski
Speaker 3: called the was it the pante drop?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, I don't know. Well, hopefully that's triggered someone at home.
Speaker 1: You can send that and we'll knock this one on
Speaker 1: the head for today, we're going out to do your
Speaker 1: weightlifting things after Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what, it's the worst possible timing
Speaker 4: because I'm off on holiday next week for a week.
Speaker 3: It was a to go skiing and I'm potentially going
Speaker 3: to go in a back brace.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it's your elbow that's going to go.
Speaker 5: You can do you know, you've got acls and your
Speaker 5: elbows and you're about to blow both of them.
Speaker 3: A right, sports book coming up?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, we've got the sports book coming up, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to knock the cig on the head
Speaker 1: and get into that. That'll be on the same feed otherwise.
Speaker 1: Whase tonight eight pm, Dying Chris Sky Sport nine tomorrow
Speaker 1: myself and Heath commentating the or Wicks, and we'll see
Speaker 1: you on Monday for another episode of the Gender podcast.
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