WEBVTT - Rugby Direct Episode 242: Five changes and a fresh look ABs

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<v Speaker 2>We need to record another edition of Rugby Direct on

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<v Speaker 2>a Thursday evening, which is becoming a regular thing. First

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<v Speaker 2>and foremost, I'm listening would have seen the team by now?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you make of that solution?

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<v Speaker 4>Great to be here in the capitol. First and foremost

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<v Speaker 4>isn't that we survived?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you fluent today?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bit more ropy than yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>The All Blacks needed to do a couple of loops.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I went up to the carpety coast and

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<v Speaker 4>had to come back again. So yeah, I hope they

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<v Speaker 4>will hope for a smoothie ride this weekend. Look in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of the All Black selections, I can't still shake

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<v Speaker 4>the sense that it's a bit conservative that's not disrespect

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<v Speaker 4>to Italy. I just probably expected Dave Renny to go

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<v Speaker 4>away bit further and maybe that's a bit harsh. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>that's my perspective on things. But they have made a

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<v Speaker 4>number of changes. I think it's eleven in the squad

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<v Speaker 4>five and the starting team, and I can understand where

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<v Speaker 4>they're coming from around building cohesion and combinations and getting

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<v Speaker 4>more clarity at this stage of the year under a

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<v Speaker 4>new management team. But there's just a few more elements.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have liked to have seen Anton signer, Josh

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<v Speaker 4>Moreby given a crack from the outset, Kyle Preston on

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<v Speaker 4>the bench. I don't particularly like the complexion of the bench,

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<v Speaker 4>but I can't understand the rationale. With a big tour

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<v Speaker 4>of South Africa and you're going to have those midweek games,

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to have a lot of time to give

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<v Speaker 4>players opportunities, aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>You You are indeed, yeah, I tend to think the

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<v Speaker 2>same vibe. I probably would have started Signa at blindside

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<v Speaker 2>this week. I think you can have a testing starting

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<v Speaker 2>test open side of Jacobson and Signa together Artie Savighert

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<v Speaker 2>at eight. I would have liked to see moreby in

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<v Speaker 2>the back three Finago would have been interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>if he would have played a role. Didn't get coursed

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<v Speaker 2>have asked to Dave any earlier, but is this cald

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<v Speaker 2>Clark been moved out of the team.

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<v Speaker 3>Or is it horses for courses.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a few unanswered questions I suppose around it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked to see it. Just another step

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<v Speaker 2>taken forward from the all blacks around some of those selections.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Dave Rennie was quick to point out

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<v Speaker 2>that Cortez Ratama only had five six minutes or similar

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench in christ Church, which is true, but

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<v Speaker 2>again that's no reason why he couldn't start Preston this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll start righting or even and move Preston off the

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<v Speaker 2>bench and then you bring Royguard back in for the

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<v Speaker 2>Irish Test. I think though that could have been a

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<v Speaker 2>live option potentially. I do get the sense that they

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<v Speaker 2>are wanting, though, to give Reuben Love the best possible

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<v Speaker 2>start to twelve before they begin to tinker and move

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<v Speaker 2>players around him. And that's why again we're probably looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a Barrett at twelve and Royguard at nine rubbed

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<v Speaker 2>and some of those other combinations. So I tend to

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<v Speaker 2>agree that I probably would have gone a step further

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<v Speaker 2>than maybe Dave Rennie has. But I also think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit to like about this team as well. Love

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<v Speaker 2>gets another crack at ten. We also see Billy Proctor

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<v Speaker 2>out as thirteen. I'm still not sold on quint to

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<v Speaker 2>pirate at thirteen. I think there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>defensive moments last week where he was out of position.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that first try from memory was one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them, whereas Billy Proctor very involved and his defense

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<v Speaker 2>is one of his real assets in a test match. So,

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<v Speaker 2>all in all, an interesting team, and it should been theory,

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<v Speaker 2>be good enough to beat Italy Italy comfortably in all honesty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so. And look, I can understand the

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<v Speaker 4>rationale around a quartet of Hurricanes in the back line.

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<v Speaker 4>Cameray Gard rubin Love is, as you say, retaining that

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<v Speaker 4>combination giving Love the best possible opportunity with Jeready Barrett

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<v Speaker 4>outside him, and then also with Leea Ricarda coming onto

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<v Speaker 4>the wing. I think if you look at players with

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<v Speaker 4>the most of the game here, you're looking at Lea

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<v Speaker 4>Ocara on the left wing, Billy Propter at center, Wallace

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<v Speaker 4>a Titi at six. I think if we draw down

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<v Speaker 4>into those three guys, who has the most of the

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<v Speaker 4>game for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that Walla City has the most again

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he is a vital part of the

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<v Speaker 2>All Blacks twenty three. I think Lucky was good last

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<v Speaker 2>week and the Titi is as good. I think they'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably form a combination this year where basically they might

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<v Speaker 2>end up starting fifty percent of the Test roughly by

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<v Speaker 2>and large and something the other will come off the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Leroy card is an interesting one. Probably didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the best back end of last year on their

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<v Speaker 2>end of year tour.

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<v Speaker 4>Faded, didn't he end and then didn't play a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of Super Ruguay this year, only came in at the back.

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<v Speaker 2>End injury wise. I am intrigued to see whether the

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<v Speaker 2>Rennie views him as an asset off the bench in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what he can play, whether he sees him

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<v Speaker 2>as potentially a Test thirteen. He's played but there for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs. He's played half back. He's obviously capable on

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<v Speaker 2>both wings, were seen at to Test level. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the you know, the pocket knife you put on

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<v Speaker 2>the bench potentially, if you're looking at maybe a six two,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's another step forward. But I think he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a bit to gain this weekend. And similarly, Billy Proctor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan of Billy Proctor. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>the best of him in an All Blacks Jersey as yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and Quinti Pie player is super rugby. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you fit them all into a back line, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still, as I said before, not convinced that Quinta

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<v Speaker 2>Pie's best position at thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Billy's a very different prospect, isn't it. He's the best

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<v Speaker 4>distributing center that New Zealand has, I think, and we

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<v Speaker 4>saw that in Super Rugby. Josh Morby and fing ngon

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<v Speaker 4>Or four scored seventeen tries single season record each and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the reflection of what's happening inside them and the

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<v Speaker 4>pace and the width that the Hurricanes provided also, so

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's got the most Again. One of the

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<v Speaker 4>other big questions around this, I thought this week was

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<v Speaker 4>an ideal time to rest art a severe and it

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<v Speaker 4>was very interesting to hear Dave Rennie talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>prospect of Artie having a late start to South African tour.

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<v Speaker 4>That's come as a bit of a surprise. I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>if it wasn't this week, then maybe you look at

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<v Speaker 4>the Bleeders lows he's the new captain. How was sort

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<v Speaker 4>of put in the cart before the horse a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>But that seems far from ideal to bring Savia. But later,

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<v Speaker 4>even though the All Blacks start with a match against

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<v Speaker 4>the Stormers in Cape.

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<v Speaker 3>Town, yeah there is a break.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's similar to line series in the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>first Test isn't until the twenty first of August, so

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<v Speaker 2>current there's New Zealand or South African time, but regardless,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sort of that weekend, so there's a few tour

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<v Speaker 2>games to get through and so you could possibly have

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<v Speaker 2>him missed the first couple come in the week before,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe plays that last tour match before the All Blacks

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<v Speaker 2>first Test, and you know is there and that that

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<v Speaker 2>basically gives them sort of essentially close to three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>off between next week's Test against Ireland, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to rest them for, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the tour game there. So maybe that's a possibility. But

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree with the original point that this

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<v Speaker 2>was probably set up quite nicely for Artie sa Viga

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<v Speaker 2>to have a week off. I get they're betting in

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<v Speaker 2>new combinations, the new leadership, everything around that, but you

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<v Speaker 2>could have had them either coming off the bench or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, none of the twenty three entirely.

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<v Speaker 4>He looked pretty battered and beat up last week. He

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<v Speaker 4>took a knock on the warm up, played through that

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<v Speaker 4>and then was beaten and bloodied. So he's played for

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen months. He is going to need a rest at

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<v Speaker 4>some point. I can see the rationale around that South

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<v Speaker 4>African window and maybe stepping out of the environment entirely.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought this was an opportunity to go with

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<v Speaker 4>other people in the loose Ford trio. Another big takeaway

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<v Speaker 4>today there's four players I think a right that will

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<v Speaker 4>not feature in the first two weeks of Rennie's tenure.

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<v Speaker 4>Boden Barrett, Kyle Preston helped me out here, Simon Parker

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<v Speaker 4>and Patrick two Plotu and Rennie said today not necessarily,

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<v Speaker 4>as he held bent on playing everyone in his thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four man squad in this three test series. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>that that was very interesting. Most coaches would want to

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<v Speaker 4>give everyone game time, but maybe that is a reflection

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<v Speaker 4>of what's to come in South Africa. But you'd have

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<v Speaker 4>to think of like Boden Barrett would be absolutely being

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<v Speaker 4>down the door ittching for an opportunity looking over his shoulder.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye would be fascinating. If he's not used at all

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<v Speaker 4>in July.

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<v Speaker 2>Well absolutely, Look and this is two medi conferences or

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<v Speaker 2>two weekly media conferences in the row now that Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Rynny has been quick time to line just how valuable

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<v Speaker 2>Boden Barrett has been in this environment even though he's

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<v Speaker 2>not playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week he said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the first Test, he said it again today that

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<v Speaker 2>he was carving them up a couple of points and

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<v Speaker 2>their training today obviously he's acting as the ten for

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<v Speaker 2>Italy and the reposed training session. So I think he

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<v Speaker 2>gets an opportunity potentially next week. Maybe they look at

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<v Speaker 2>fullback for him starting in Edden Park, maybe comes off

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<v Speaker 2>the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>They having gone with.

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<v Speaker 2>A specialist playmaker on the bench in the first couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, so that may be going slightly against the grain,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would be surprised if we don't see Boden

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<v Speaker 2>Barrett next week. Been battling a lot of injuries, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's the story unfortunately of his career is that

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<v Speaker 2>he's never quite been fully fitt. He's an absolute warrior

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<v Speaker 2>and a great player, but he's he's battling injuries, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a vital player. And then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have liked to see Preston this week. Absolutely. He

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<v Speaker 2>may get a chance next week. Depending on how long

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<v Speaker 2>Ratama gets this week, they may be more comfortable to

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<v Speaker 2>go We'll put Preston on the bench next week rather

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<v Speaker 2>than Royguard and Parker. Hard to know. He may be

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<v Speaker 2>the one unlucky one that doesn't doesn't quite get an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity in this series.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the other one just now think about Xavier new Mair,

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<v Speaker 4>George Bowers come on to the bench. They've gone with

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<v Speaker 4>Ethan de Grue and Tyrolomax because they respect highly Atalys

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<v Speaker 4>Scrum personally. I would have liked to have seen new

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<v Speaker 4>Mare go again. I thought he was very impressive off

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<v Speaker 4>the bench. He's that all court modern day prop and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he brings a lot more than a George Bauer.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's a final line decision. Yeah, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>new Mire is the future and you need to be

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<v Speaker 4>progressing those guys, so I would have gone that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect they'll revert back to the mix they had

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<v Speaker 2>last week for next week would be my thought that

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<v Speaker 2>loom Max probably drops back to the bench on Will

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<v Speaker 2>comes back in on the bench and maybe Naw me

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<v Speaker 2>on the bench as well. They're all hurricanes, but that

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<v Speaker 2>me again the newill comes back into the starting side.

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<v Speaker 2>Lonax hasn't had a lot of rugby really since September

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<v Speaker 2>of last year. He's been in and out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thumb injuries and various other bits he's had to have repaired.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can understand him hopefully getting fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes under his belt on the again. Here's a

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<v Speaker 2>fun fact for you. This Saturday were the first time

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<v Speaker 2>that Luke Jacobson has started back to back All Blacks

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<v Speaker 2>tests in his career.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's the reflection of his career at

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<v Speaker 4>test level, isn't it. That's he's been selected by successive

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<v Speaker 4>All Black coaches but never sees that chance to say

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm a must have selection. And Dave Rennie today

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he's right. I'd agree with him. Last

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<v Speaker 4>week was Luke Jacobson's best test. He got a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of early penalties, but has worked great his defense front

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<v Speaker 4>on defense, his ability to clean bodies and provide that

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<v Speaker 4>quick rock ball, the slick off fload for Will Jordan's try. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't a big fan of his selection and I

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<v Speaker 4>think he proved me and a number of other people

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<v Speaker 4>are wrong and he's been rewarded again with another.

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<v Speaker 2>Start he has men and look, I've still on this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast that you can never you know, I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 2>him to succeed the Test level, but never quite seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe we are beginning, and this early days, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if he can back it up again this week,

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<v Speaker 2>And as I said, I went through the stats before

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<v Speaker 2>he's played back to back weeks off the bench or

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<v Speaker 2>starting one week off the bench next week, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first time he's getting back to back starts

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe better lat than ever. It might be that

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<v Speaker 2>the kick start he needs to his Test career. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the All Blacks twenty three. They should do a

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<v Speaker 2>job on this Italian team. Look on the davern he

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<v Speaker 2>was quick to point out the heat in Japan last week,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can be oppressive at.

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<v Speaker 3>This time of the year. We've seen that.

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<v Speaker 2>But Italy were really poor and really disappointing given the

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<v Speaker 2>moments they've had in the six Nations over the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of seasons. I know they're missing Angkapuzzo who's back home,

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of other players that weren't selected but

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't quite get going. And it's hard to see

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hour flights in New Zealand being the tonic they

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<v Speaker 2>need to everything for everything clicking them to.

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<v Speaker 4>Get Yeah, look at Italy's first test in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 4>Since two thousand and nine, they have made a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of key changes at fullback, left wing and blindside flankers,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's a stronger team by the back end of

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<v Speaker 4>their year. They haven't got everyone in their squad, leaving

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<v Speaker 4>a couple behinds. It's going to be a tall order.

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<v Speaker 4>I would expect the All Blacks to put fifty plus

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<v Speaker 4>on this Italy team, particularly given the strength of the

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<v Speaker 4>All Black team, the combinations, the directives around prioritizing cohesion

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<v Speaker 4>over maybe fast tracking some of those rookies. I think

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<v Speaker 4>we see this All Black team taking another step up,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly on attack, and they need to make some big

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<v Speaker 4>shifts on defense as well. What about the Wellington who

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<v Speaker 4>doo h? Was it three from their last ten? I

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<v Speaker 4>think the last match here was that record defeats to

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<v Speaker 4>the box Does that play any part, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think it plays a part, But the more it

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<v Speaker 2>gets talked about, the more it is sort of in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the mind. And there's no reason for

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<v Speaker 2>them to have been this bad and willing obviously it's

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<v Speaker 2>from Boxer are a very very good team, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>become almost comical how they found ways to lose and

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<v Speaker 2>conspire to play really badly in the Capitol. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I listeners caught up with us as well

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<v Speaker 2>that they only arrived into Wellington today. Maybe that was

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<v Speaker 2>a factor in trying to change up some of the momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>This decision was made by the previous all Blacks coaching regime.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they did this to.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically try and shake off the Capital who do Whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it might have been, I can't see it happening on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should be far too good for this

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<v Speaker 2>Italian team. But it is quite a funny sideshow to

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<v Speaker 2>have this still going on, because really some of them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they shouldn't have lost half of them, if

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<v Speaker 2>not more.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny they had prior to this run that she

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<v Speaker 4>had a great record in Wellington. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a non factor, particularly for Italy, and with

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<v Speaker 4>Dave Renny coming in as well. He's from Wellington coaching,

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<v Speaker 4>started coaching the Alpert Cults was a teacher and a publican,

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<v Speaker 4>won a provincial title with Wellington in two thousand, knows

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<v Speaker 4>this region well, so I think he feels entirely comfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>And I really don't even think the All Blacks will

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<v Speaker 4>touch on that this week.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so either. I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>left to the side of the discussion. So the All

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<v Speaker 2>Blacks Italy on Saturday afternoon two plus five sold out

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<v Speaker 2>crowds got there in the end with the locals and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>great to see and hopefully the occasion matches it because

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<v Speaker 2>the last time there was a high profile rugby game

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<v Speaker 2>played in the Capitol, you know, we got ourselves entertained.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not if you're a Chiefs fan, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>assumably great occasion. So hopefully more of the same on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll keep an eye out for trains and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you can do some tooting. And you are on the

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<v Speaker 4>Hurricanes bandwagon now, so.

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<v Speaker 2>The only bandwagon I want, that white bait wagon that's

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<v Speaker 2>on the Viaduct, which we do need to go check

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<v Speaker 2>out instantly on Saturday morning at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, indeed, I can't wait for that.

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<v Speaker 3>That indeed, we'll do us. Rugby Director.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick update on the nation's championship Juicy Patch Saga. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a response from New Zealand Rugby and I was

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<v Speaker 2>told that they aren't required to wear them the badge,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're not wearing it at this point in time,

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go. I think they're the only ones

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, fair enough in that infancy, isn't it It is?

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed yeh see guys, and there's no sponsor attached to

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<v Speaker 2>this competition. You I think cut always are just pulling

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<v Speaker 2>back until they're you know, back on solid ground and

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<v Speaker 2>not getting entangled. And other developments worldwide put it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>they will do us for Rugby Direct. We're back early

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