1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,120 Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. I don't want to 2 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: start a disagreement between shows here on newstalg ZB. But 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: I did listen to Mike Hosking this morning talking some smack, 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: and I felt listening to I felt, no, I'm gonna 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: have to say something about this, just to restore a 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: bit of balance to this debate. In defense of instant coffee. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: The stuff is great. I love it. I drink it 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: nearly every day. Little flat white in the morning, little 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: old school instant in the afternoon. I am I would 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: like to point out squeally in the demographic that should 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: be snobby about coffee, right. It should be like fresh 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: beans from Rwanda every day, grew up on the cafe culture, 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: live in ponds andbe have some of the best cafes 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: in the country around the corner. But I still wrote 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: by instant. Now. I don't want to be like super 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: unfair on Mike because obviously he's a legend, but he 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: does some girl math when he wants to Instant coffee 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: is not more expensive than your ground beans. I mean, 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: if you look at it on the face of what 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: you're paying at the supermarket, yep. Sure, your classic Macona 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: at twelve dollars for one hundred grams does appear to 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: be more expensive than you Havana five star coffee bean 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: at ten dollars fifty for two hundred grams, because obviously 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: getting two hundred grams of the beans as to post 25 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: as opposed to one hundred grams of the instant, So 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: you know you're paying for twice as many beans for 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: roughly the same price. But you and I know that's 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: not how it works. You and I know that you're 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: getting more cups of coffee out of that little makona 30 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: jar because you're only using one teaspoon at a time. 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: You're using the beans, you're gonna have to fill up 32 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: that whole double shot filter basket, and so you're gonna 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: whip through that two hundred grams a whole lot faster. 34 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, obviously, you know, it's 35 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: not just like I live in pulsenbe Okay, It's not 36 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: just about price gonna afford to go and buy myself 37 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: a nice little flat white. It's about the fact that 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: it tastes good. It tastes instant coffee tastes good in 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: its own special watery mudway. Do you know what I mean? 40 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: It's got its place in life. I don't think we 41 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: need to discount it. It's kind of like you can 42 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: enjoy yourself a craft beer, but then you can also 43 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: want a dirty old corona from time to time, or 44 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: you can you can make a virtue out of eating 45 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: your vogels and getting all that fiber going through your gap. 46 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: But there sometimes you just want a nice white slice 47 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: with your you know what I mean. Sometimes you just 48 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: want to get down in the gutter with that little 49 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: instant coffee. Not everyone wants to drink an espresso at 50 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: three in the afternoon and be pinging at eleven at night. 51 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: Still that's the place of the instant coffee. You have 52 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: that at three and you just got a little light, 53 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: little buzz until seven, sleep like a baby after that. 54 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: And finally, just the final point on this is it 55 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: turns out more of us actually drink the instant than 56 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: the espresso. This may shock you because we were the 57 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: land of the flat white, but we are also the 58 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: land that invented the instant coffee in Southland, and the 59 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: last survey I saw said forty four percent of us 60 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: drink the instant and only thirty four percent of us 61 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: drink the espresso, and, as Mike likes to say, numbers 62 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: don't lie. For more from Heather Duplassy Allen Drive, listen 63 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 64 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio