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Speaker 1: US and UK law enforcement are going to be using

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Speaker 1: a New Zealand developed strategy to help boost police performance.

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Speaker 1: So this is VANTA Set uses research into people's breaking

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Speaker 1: points to assist the lead athletes. Now they've signed long

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Speaker 1: term deals with global law enforcement agencies to re engage

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Speaker 1: frontline officers. So Craig Steele is the founder in the

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Speaker 1: CEO of Vanta Set and as with US, Craig, morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: So this was an early iteration used by New Zealand Police.

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Speaker 1: When was that and did it work?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we started in twenty fifteen with a full roll out.

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Speaker 2: Prior to that might we had done a couple of

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Speaker 2: pilot programs and soonly at the time Mike Bush, who

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Speaker 2: was the commissioner, believed that A gave him a mechanism

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Speaker 2: to drive the step change that he was looking for

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Speaker 2: in people's engagement and connection to the strategy.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what do you literally do? I mean? So in

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Speaker 1: athletic claims personal best you get eighty seven percent of

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Speaker 1: the time. These were in Tier one events compared with

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Speaker 1: international average of eight to ten. What literally are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Well? It's really about a complete change in mindset. It's

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Speaker 2: enabling airthletes to turn up to world championship events as

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Speaker 2: a world champion, rather than going in and hoping that

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Speaker 2: they've done enough work and possibly coming up short. Setting

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Speaker 2: them up so that they know they're in the right

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Speaker 2: state when they head into that competition.

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Speaker 1: This is purely psychological. You're convincing people they're winners.

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Speaker 2: To an extent. When we get into the business piece,

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Speaker 2: it's very much around connecting people to the intent of

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Speaker 2: the organization so that the business itself has a mechanism

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Speaker 2: to be able to optimize the potential of their people.

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Speaker 2: And they are the things that typically come up short

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Speaker 2: for organization, so it's not usually the strategy that fails.

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Speaker 2: It's all around people's execution.

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Speaker 1: Can you do it in a half baked organization or

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Speaker 1: does the organization have to be good to instill the

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Speaker 1: thought process in the people who work for it.

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Speaker 2: It's better if the organization has a real aspiration, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But often what happens is when we got organizations there's

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Speaker 2: often a lack of confident in its ability to succeed.

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Speaker 2: That as soon as they start to get the leaders

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Speaker 2: in place and they can see that they can connect

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Speaker 2: people for the things that really matter that gives them confidence.

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Speaker 2: So organizations and very change over time they start these

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Speaker 2: disciplines or methods into their business.

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Speaker 1: Is it applicable to anything potentially business wise?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. We spend a huge amount of time

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Speaker 2: testing it and it is an agnostic system, so wherever

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Speaker 2: there are people who matter to the organization, then it

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Speaker 2: can work well.

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Speaker 1: And so you're going with the police and how long

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Speaker 1: before I can ring you up? And you go, well,

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Speaker 1: we put it in there and it worked for them.

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Speaker 2: We are hoping that that will be within the twelve

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Speaker 2: to fifteen months. And the point round the critical appencies,

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Speaker 2: Mike is purely the fact that those organizations understand the

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Speaker 2: performance of their people is really critical to their success.

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Speaker 2: So in that state or in that instance, they are

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Speaker 2: really looking for better ways to be able to engage

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Speaker 2: their people and ultimately help them to live the outcomes

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Speaker 2: that matter.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Well, we'll stay in touch. I wish you were

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Speaker 1: with it. Craig Craig Steel, most Boomers and Anthony Moss

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Speaker 1: on board with that disc as well.

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