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Speaker 1: Have you thought the our mate Adapata on the Water

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Speaker 1: Zone Committee Nshburton was a good story. How about the

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Speaker 1: Hotaphanua District's Rogan Boyle, who is serving as constituents these

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Speaker 1: days from Scotland Council of Boil, unlike Aripata, has of

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Speaker 1: course been present at the meetings, but he thinks that

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Speaker 1: zoom's a good way to do that. District Mayor Bernie

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Speaker 1: Wanden's with us on this Bernie morning, Good morning. How

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Speaker 1: long has this been going on for?

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Speaker 2: Castle Boil left New Zealand late October?

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Speaker 1: Right and did anyone know he was leaving the country

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Speaker 1: or well.

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Speaker 2: We're whispers said he was leaving the country, but nothing

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Speaker 2: official had been received by myself to say he was

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Speaker 2: going to be away for any length of time.

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Speaker 1: No, do you need to do that? Or can you

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Speaker 1: just leave the country and stay out of the country

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Speaker 1: for as long as you want?

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Speaker 2: Well it would be courtousy. I suppose to advise the

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Speaker 2: Council that he is leaving for some extended time. Castle

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Speaker 2: Boiler has always said that he didn't know how long

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Speaker 2: he was going for. It was possibly going to be

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Speaker 2: only two or three months, but could be extended and

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Speaker 2: it looks like it has been extended.

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Speaker 1: Are there any rules around this or not?

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Speaker 2: Not? Really? No, the rules let the counselor zoom into

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Speaker 2: a meeting. It doesn't say how long that should be for,

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Speaker 2: So the rules are a little blurry if you like,

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Speaker 2: in terms of that. So what he is doing is okay.

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Speaker 2: All he has to do is really seek approval from

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Speaker 2: me to be able to attend the meetings by zoom

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Speaker 2: And did you then that's what he's been doing.

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Speaker 1: And you give that permission each time?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do. I don't see any reason why I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't do that. Ultimately, though, I suppose this is more

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Speaker 2: an ethical values principle rather than following the rules or not.

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Speaker 1: And how does he serve as people?

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Speaker 2: Well, he believes that he can serve as people by

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Speaker 2: maintaining contacts through social media, emails, etc. We've encouraged him

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Speaker 2: to seek his constituents' views on that because they may

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Speaker 2: have a different view, of course.

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Speaker 1: And he can run a poll on TikTok he could.

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Speaker 2: I've been pretty consistent on saying to him that he

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Speaker 2: needs to advise us one way or the other whether

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Speaker 2: he wishes to continue to zoom in or he resigns.

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Speaker 2: But ultimately that's his decision. But I certainly don't support

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Speaker 2: personally him continuing what he's doing at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Nor should you. Is he standing again do you know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that for sure, but ultimately, again that's

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Speaker 2: his decision.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't pass the pub test, does it?

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Speaker 2: Probably not? No, But you know this is a different

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Speaker 2: where we live in these days. A look, the demands

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Speaker 2: on counselors are extreme, and I believe that there should

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Speaker 2: be some flexibility and allowing counselors to operate the best

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Speaker 2: way they can. As I said, this is ultimately his

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Speaker 2: decision and whether he believes he's doing justice to the

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Speaker 2: role by operating overseas at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I suppose the upside is if he runs again, the

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Speaker 1: people will have this. So Bernie appreciate that. Bernie Wandon

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Speaker 1: Horrifanua District Council mayor. So your blokes in Scotland and

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Speaker 1: our Aparta doesn't turn up and still gets paid, nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to do anything about it. And Mark's at the

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Speaker 1: mini bar and Judith is ordering salmon, Nichol is on

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Speaker 1: the magnums. She's a crazy old country, isn't it?

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