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Speaker 1: Now road rage at traffic stops is apparently getting out

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Speaker 1: of control. A new sector survey shows that two thirds

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Speaker 1: of New Zealand's traffic control is a copping abuse on

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Speaker 1: a weekly basis, and one in five traffic workers one

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Speaker 1: in five have been physically assaulted in the last year,

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Speaker 1: with some even being struck by vehicles. Now, Hugh Godad

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Speaker 1: as the owner of Pipeline and Civil, which is a

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Speaker 1: maintenance and repair company and with us now, hey Hugh.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, Heather, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for joining us. Have your workers experienced this

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Speaker 3: kind of thing?

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Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. Yeah, it's a real challenge out there across

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Speaker 2: the wider industry as well as in our business. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean we've had staff being yelled at, you know,

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Speaker 2: almost hit by vehicles on the road, and and even

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Speaker 2: you know to the point of almost physical abuse. Certainly

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Speaker 2: a lot of verbal abuse. Drivers moving cones into live

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Speaker 2: lanes while cars are coming in the other way. Just yeah,

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Speaker 2: quite challenge your behavior out there.

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Speaker 1: Is it as like as frequently as the survey suggests?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I think you know, I wasn't involved in

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Speaker 2: development the survey, but I know over seven hundred TTM

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Speaker 2: workers in New Zealand responded to the survey, which is

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Speaker 2: which is a significant sample and and that's the feedback

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Speaker 2: that's coming through. So it's very much a real issue.

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Speaker 3: What's causing it? Why are people behaving like this?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just wonder whether, I mean, there's obviously been

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Speaker 2: a big discussion topic in the media and in the

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Speaker 2: public around heavy traffic management and you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: people are frustrated, which which is totally understandable. You know,

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Speaker 2: they see you know, cons and and they obviously see

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Speaker 2: red at the same time. And I think it's you know,

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Speaker 2: it is a challenge out there, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: sort of trying to reframe this thinking to look at

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Speaker 2: investment in infrastructure as a positive and roadworks as being

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Speaker 2: part of that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So are you saying it's just a general frustration

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Speaker 3: with the sheer number of cones that we see rather

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Speaker 3: than something that that particular roadworker is doing or that

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Speaker 3: particular is happening at that particular site.

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Speaker 2: I believe. So I think that, you know, and there's

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Speaker 2: also guess challenges around you know, whether the site is active,

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Speaker 2: you know, could be a night work site that's just

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Speaker 2: being maintained during the day and they and they obviously

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Speaker 2: can't they have to leave the TTM equipment on the road,

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Speaker 2: so you know, they think nothing's happening, but actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: there are works occurring, or you know, the ship seal

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Speaker 2: of the surfacing is being is curing or things like that,

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Speaker 2: which which obviously can't cause frustration, especially if they don't

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Speaker 2: see things happening at that moment in time. But it's

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Speaker 2: certainly I mean, these are real people. They're like you

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Speaker 2: or I, trying to do a job, trying to earn

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Speaker 2: across to feed their families. You know, they're not going

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Speaker 2: out of their way to you know, stop people getting

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Speaker 2: to them from work or affect their lives.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think that most people are actually decent,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little frustrated, but decent about it and understand

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Speaker 1: it's just a few bad eggs letting us down.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, I think that's certainly an aspect,

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Speaker 2: but the volume of roadwork abuse has definitely seen an increase,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's an area that needs to be

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Speaker 2: addressed and we need public support in doing that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hugh, it's good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, appreciate it, mate, that's you gotta

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