1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: With me right now, as Jason Pine, sports talk host 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: who's been covering the Olympics for ages. Now Piney Halo, 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hello head, before we get into the Olympics, what happened 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: to the All Blacks? Then? What they do wrong? 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, a few things. You know, you can talk about 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: not wanting it as much. I don't think that's the case. 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: They had a lot of unforced errors. I think they 8 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: kicked probably a bit too. 9 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Much and found tj well No. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, he was one of the corporates, I think. Yeah, 11 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: But I also don't know that the kicking from Damien 12 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: McKenzie or Jordi Barrett was that good either. So exiting 13 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: out of their own twenty two was a work on 14 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: This will be interesting because first time this coaching staff 15 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: has overseen a loss. How will the week be under 16 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: razor how will we react? They're here in Auckland now 17 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: for a backup test against Argentina Eden Parks Saturday night. 18 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: What do they say? You win or you learn? Hopefully 19 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: they've learned a bit and we'll have a bit of 20 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: showing on Saturday that laid out. Yeah, those core roles 21 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: are interesting a and they now have a specialist throwing 22 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: coach as well, Corey Flynn a former All Blacks hooker, 23 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: and so straight away you like, we'll hang on mate, 24 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: Why is the throwing not going to our guys? That 25 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: core role far more as a very very destructive rugby 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: player when he's running with the ball in his hands, 27 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: but his core role will still throw the ball in 28 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: the line out. So yeah, there's a bit of work 29 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: to be done there as well. 30 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: It feels a little bit like because just as you're 31 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: pointing out right, the basics of rugby were not being 32 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: done to the standard that you would expect the All 33 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Blacks to do them, and so it just feels like 34 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: they're all a bit like sixes and sevens about wobbly. 35 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: It's like they're not comfortable in the roles they're playing. 36 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: Is that Yeah, that's I wrote down the word chaotic 37 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: when I was watching it on SA night. You're right, 38 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: the kick pass catch, run, will not run, kick pass catch, 39 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: those three basics of rugby they just weren't doing as 40 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: well as they should at this level. Yeah, they'll be 41 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: better for it, your hope. I wonder how you coach 42 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: coach unforced eras out because you can only train under 43 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: so much pressure in a training situation, right, it's never 44 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: going to replicate a Test match, So how do you 45 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: replicate that pressure so that unforced eras are trained out 46 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: of you? If you know so, that'll be an interesting 47 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: little work on for them as well. 48 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Jeez, I mean frustrating. And also what's going on with 49 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: TJ's hair? 50 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting It just getting uglier and. 51 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Uglier every week. But that was the peak of ugliness, 52 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: wasn't it. 53 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: Well. I don't like to comment on hairstyles. As you know, Heather. 54 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: Pony yours is perfectly suited for the fact that you're 55 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: bald on top. But I mean he is willingly making 56 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: himself baled on the signs. I think his appearance in 57 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: future matches should be contingent on what's going on with 58 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: his hair, don't you think. 59 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: Well, I'd prefer to focus on his core roles as 60 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: are half back. I could not. 61 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: Focus on it for the fact that I was looking 62 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: at that hideous mullet. Okay, now, what was your favorite moment? 63 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Can you go past Hamish curve? 64 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: I can't, I can't go, Unfortunately, I can't. It sounds 65 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: cliche because it was. It's a lot of people are 66 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: saying that was their favorite, but it was my favorite. Yeah, 67 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: and a sport that is, you know, global, truly global 68 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: track and field is done in every country on Earth, 69 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: and the high jumps kind of one of the glamour 70 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: events on the track. But just the way it was achieved, 71 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: the drama, the the you know, the tension, and just 72 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: the utter joy of him doing it. 73 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: I just absolutely love thought about all those guys coming out. 74 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Are they all like, you know, pulling signs to the 75 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: crowd and they're all being slick ricks and then out 76 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: comes Hamish and he's like, oh yeah, I'm from New Zealand. 77 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: And the humble guy gets the goal. 78 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: So key we a And I think that's right across really. 79 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean look you look at Dame Liza caring To, 80 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: look at Alise Andrews, look at Hamish cur look at 81 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Finn Butcher. Yeah, they're just authentic, down to earth normal 82 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: key we stall. I love it on them. 83 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: I loved it too, Hey, Piney, thank you very much. 84 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Enjoy it. Jason Pie and Sportstalok Coaster has done it 85 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: amazing job covering the Olympics for us. Here on News 86 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Talks ed Beef for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 87 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talk said B from four pm weekdays, 88 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio