1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:15,693 Speaker 2: A'd be well, Donald Trump, you would have to say, 4 00:00:15,933 --> 00:00:18,893 Speaker 2: isn't wasting any time whatsoever. We can be sure of that, 5 00:00:19,613 --> 00:00:25,373 Speaker 2: whether it is his executive orders Greenland or his extraordinary 6 00:00:25,453 --> 00:00:30,453 Speaker 2: cabinet appointments. The President's strategy for his first few weeks 7 00:00:30,453 --> 00:00:34,093 Speaker 2: in ovie is obviously to move as quickly as possible, 8 00:00:34,173 --> 00:00:36,733 Speaker 2: to flood the zone, as they say in politics, And 9 00:00:36,773 --> 00:00:39,973 Speaker 2: for his opponents, there's just so much to be outraged 10 00:00:40,013 --> 00:00:43,653 Speaker 2: about they can't really keep up. But of the many 11 00:00:43,853 --> 00:00:49,933 Speaker 2: crazy things to observe, I reckon RFK Junior's confirmation hearing 12 00:00:50,013 --> 00:00:54,293 Speaker 2: this week has been a bit of a standout for me. Obviously, 13 00:00:55,253 --> 00:01:01,013 Speaker 2: the guy is wacky and unconventional, but having someone with 14 00:01:01,093 --> 00:01:05,133 Speaker 2: his history of campaigning against vaccines in such an important 15 00:01:05,293 --> 00:01:09,253 Speaker 2: public health throw is extraordinary, even by Donald Trump's standards. 16 00:01:09,453 --> 00:01:12,773 Speaker 2: Potentially dangerous for sure. But anyway, Look, I don't want 17 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,973 Speaker 2: to talk about vaccines this morning. Don't worry. I want 18 00:01:15,013 --> 00:01:21,293 Speaker 2: to talk about food because despite his unconventional persona, despite 19 00:01:21,293 --> 00:01:24,093 Speaker 2: how much I disagree with things he said about vaccines 20 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:28,413 Speaker 2: and actions he's taken in the past, not everything about 21 00:01:28,693 --> 00:01:32,533 Speaker 2: rfk's health philosophy, if we can put it that way, 22 00:01:33,293 --> 00:01:37,693 Speaker 2: should be discounted. Not everything's loopy. And when it comes 23 00:01:37,693 --> 00:01:41,933 Speaker 2: to his attitudes towards ultra processed foods and America's big 24 00:01:41,973 --> 00:01:48,453 Speaker 2: food industry, I am one hundred percent on RFK Junior's side. 25 00:01:48,813 --> 00:01:52,933 Speaker 2: So in a nutshell, he reckons that America's ultra process 26 00:01:52,973 --> 00:01:57,373 Speaker 2: food industry is contributing to and making Americans less healthy. 27 00:01:57,773 --> 00:02:00,493 Speaker 2: The combination of processing and you know, the use of 28 00:02:00,613 --> 00:02:06,373 Speaker 2: artificial engineered ingredients, factory farming, and excess sugar has contribut 29 00:02:06,453 --> 00:02:12,173 Speaker 2: betted to alarming health alarming health outcomes. And honestly, I agree, 30 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:17,213 Speaker 2: I totally agree. Speaking personally, I reckon it was Michael 31 00:02:17,253 --> 00:02:19,933 Speaker 2: polland you know that amazing American author. I've actually had 32 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:21,213 Speaker 2: him on the show a couple of times, so we 33 00:02:21,213 --> 00:02:23,453 Speaker 2: can call him friend at the show, Michael Polland it 34 00:02:23,533 --> 00:02:25,493 Speaker 2: was from him that I first adopted a bit of 35 00:02:25,533 --> 00:02:28,973 Speaker 2: a food philosophy of sorts, because he came up with 36 00:02:29,013 --> 00:02:33,773 Speaker 2: those simplest food rules when investigating food and nutrition. His 37 00:02:33,973 --> 00:02:40,213 Speaker 2: rules eat food mainly plants, not too much. But for 38 00:02:40,253 --> 00:02:45,693 Speaker 2: a long time now, I reckon my food philosophy has 39 00:02:45,773 --> 00:02:48,973 Speaker 2: been the more that food has been processed, the more 40 00:02:49,013 --> 00:02:52,093 Speaker 2: it's been tinkered with, the more that it's been optimized 41 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:56,053 Speaker 2: and engineered, the more that it has numbers for ingredients, 42 00:02:56,813 --> 00:02:59,933 Speaker 2: the worse it probably is for your health. Now, don't 43 00:02:59,933 --> 00:03:03,333 Speaker 2: get me wrong, I absolutely love junk food, absolutely love it. Right, 44 00:03:03,413 --> 00:03:06,373 Speaker 2: life is too short, though, as far as I'm concerned 45 00:03:07,253 --> 00:03:10,413 Speaker 2: to only eat numbers. I would just much rather have 46 00:03:10,853 --> 00:03:13,773 Speaker 2: a big wedge of carrot cake or a slab of 47 00:03:13,893 --> 00:03:17,733 Speaker 2: ginger crunch from a fancy cafe than junk food that 48 00:03:17,773 --> 00:03:21,333 Speaker 2: comes in a package. So I'd much rather have a 49 00:03:21,373 --> 00:03:26,293 Speaker 2: pizza from an independent pizza place or an uncle Man's 50 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:30,693 Speaker 2: Malaysian luxA than a combo and a coke from one 51 00:03:30,733 --> 00:03:34,253 Speaker 2: of the big chains. And I know they've made efforts 52 00:03:34,293 --> 00:03:38,293 Speaker 2: to improve their offerings over the years, but speaking personally, 53 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:42,653 Speaker 2: it is I think almost eighteen years since I've had 54 00:03:42,693 --> 00:03:47,213 Speaker 2: anything from the likes of McDonald's or BKKFC, not even 55 00:03:47,253 --> 00:03:50,213 Speaker 2: a single fry, and honestly, I doubt I will ever 56 00:03:50,253 --> 00:03:54,053 Speaker 2: eat that stuff again in my life. In America, though 57 00:03:54,453 --> 00:03:57,853 Speaker 2: it is obviously much worse. Everything is processed, everything comes 58 00:03:57,853 --> 00:04:00,373 Speaker 2: in a packet. Every aisle at the supermarket is a 59 00:04:00,413 --> 00:04:04,093 Speaker 2: middle Aisle. I'll never forget when a key we mate 60 00:04:04,173 --> 00:04:06,733 Speaker 2: came home for a month or so over someone and 61 00:04:07,133 --> 00:04:10,773 Speaker 2: accidentally left a bag of bread in the pantry of 62 00:04:10,813 --> 00:04:13,373 Speaker 2: his New York apartment while he was overseas, And so 63 00:04:13,453 --> 00:04:17,053 Speaker 2: he returned after four or five weeks, expecting to find 64 00:04:17,373 --> 00:04:22,173 Speaker 2: a writhing blob of blue penicillin in his pantry, only 65 00:04:22,253 --> 00:04:26,373 Speaker 2: to discover a bag of bread without a single spot 66 00:04:26,573 --> 00:04:32,613 Speaker 2: of mold, without a single spore anywhere. Yes, we wondered, 67 00:04:32,813 --> 00:04:36,893 Speaker 2: if that bread can survive a month in a warm cupboard, 68 00:04:37,813 --> 00:04:42,773 Speaker 2: what's it doing to us? And yet, on average, despite 69 00:04:42,813 --> 00:04:46,693 Speaker 2: spending twice as much on healthcare per capita than other 70 00:04:46,893 --> 00:04:50,533 Speaker 2: large wealthy countries, life expectancy in the US is five 71 00:04:50,653 --> 00:04:54,853 Speaker 2: years lower. A's bananas. A. Well, it's not bananas. I 72 00:04:54,893 --> 00:04:59,453 Speaker 2: suppose it's yeah, high fruit toose corn syrup. A. They 73 00:04:59,493 --> 00:05:03,773 Speaker 2: spend twice as much per person on healthcare only to 74 00:05:03,893 --> 00:05:07,733 Speaker 2: live five years less. We can't pin at all on 75 00:05:07,813 --> 00:05:11,813 Speaker 2: ultraprocessed foods, but diet certainly plays a role in that. 76 00:05:13,893 --> 00:05:18,253 Speaker 2: About half of the trillion US dollar supermarket industry they 77 00:05:18,293 --> 00:05:21,453 Speaker 2: reckon as ultra process food. So in New Zealand, dollars 78 00:05:21,653 --> 00:05:25,893 Speaker 2: that means that the ultra processed food industry in US 79 00:05:25,973 --> 00:05:30,453 Speaker 2: supermarkets is worth about eight hundred and fifty billion New 80 00:05:30,573 --> 00:05:34,973 Speaker 2: Zealand dollars every year. So if RFK Junior is confirmed 81 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:38,533 Speaker 2: and can break through some of the vested interests that 82 00:05:38,733 --> 00:05:43,253 Speaker 2: underpin that, honestly, all power to them. 83 00:05:43,613 --> 00:05:46,693 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 84 00:05:46,773 --> 00:05:50,093 Speaker 1: to Newstalks' b from nine am Saturday, or follow the 85 00:05:50,133 --> 00:05:51,573 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.