WEBVTT - On The Front Foot: Episode 172 0:00:09.133 --> 0:00:12.013 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sat B. 0:00:12.413 --> 0:00:15.213 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 0:00:15.373 --> 0:00:22.453 iHeart Radio. Take another pat, now'll get in. 0:00:22.893 --> 0:00:25.893 It's a trick, it is out. The test is over. 0:00:28.133 --> 0:00:30.373 Couldn'tess makes a beauty? 0:00:30.413 --> 0:00:32.493 It is out and hearing guys. 0:00:32.573 --> 0:00:33.573 This delivery has. 0:00:33.533 --> 0:00:35.093 In the users before. 0:00:37.253 --> 0:00:40.613 On the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Coney, 0:00:40.933 --> 0:00:44.853 powered by News Talks head B at iHeartRadio. 0:00:48.333 --> 0:00:51.013 Hello on the Front Foot? Will you again keeping an 0:00:51.053 --> 0:00:53.973 eye on the World Tea? Twenty one week into it, 0:00:54.293 --> 0:00:57.413 black Caps stumble at the first turtle? Was it punishment 0:00:57.493 --> 0:01:01.133 for a lack of match preparation? The Americans produced the 0:01:01.173 --> 0:01:05.893 surprise of the tournament so far, Doubting Pakistan but god 0:01:06.013 --> 0:01:08.773 he's there, but just take a prices come under the 0:01:08.853 --> 0:01:13.533 microscope and the Whitebirds, well they've made a significant choice 0:01:13.573 --> 0:01:17.413 for their England tour. Former Black Cap bat batting coach 0:01:17.893 --> 0:01:21.453 Craig McMillan is going to be with them. Interesting change. 0:01:21.813 --> 0:01:24.973 Garth Galliley and Jeremy Cody with me. That was difficult 0:01:25.013 --> 0:01:28.453 watching a Black Cap side performing as poorly as they did. 0:01:29.333 --> 0:01:32.133 They were lack class. Dame Garth, you know we talked 0:01:32.133 --> 0:01:33.813 about it leading up to this. You've got to have 0:01:33.893 --> 0:01:35.973 some preparations, you've got to be ready to go from 0:01:35.973 --> 0:01:39.733 ball one. They were very ordinary playing that opening game 0:01:39.773 --> 0:01:42.133 against deff Gellison and they under restraate Afghanistan. 0:01:42.573 --> 0:01:45.133 That was my impresson Brian and the last time we 0:01:45.133 --> 0:01:48.213 were together doing the podcast, we just talked about the 0:01:48.253 --> 0:01:51.493 need for good preparation and that New Zealand seemed to 0:01:51.533 --> 0:01:54.693 be taking a significant risk by going into this tournament 0:01:54.693 --> 0:01:56.773 without other build up and I'm afraid they got They 0:01:56.773 --> 0:01:58.933 got caught out by it very badly yesterday by a 0:01:59.053 --> 0:02:02.693 very good, f gunny side. I mean the Afghanistan side. 0:02:03.373 --> 0:02:07.293 They just looked completely switched on and I thought the 0:02:07.333 --> 0:02:10.453 New Zealand side looked bewildered. And as you say, I 0:02:10.493 --> 0:02:14.853 mean the question is did we underestimate Afghanistan. I suppose 0:02:15.453 --> 0:02:18.173 New Zealand will come out and say we were outplayed 0:02:18.413 --> 0:02:21.653 and we didn't, but my impression was that we did 0:02:22.013 --> 0:02:24.573 and we were quite wrong to. We only need to 0:02:24.573 --> 0:02:27.053 look back at the you know, the Cricket World Cup 0:02:27.053 --> 0:02:30.733 in India last year where Afghanistan scored two hundred and 0:02:30.773 --> 0:02:34.973 ninety one for five against against Australia and Ibraham of 0:02:34.973 --> 0:02:36.813 course scored one hundred and twenty nine not out in 0:02:36.893 --> 0:02:39.693 that match and they had Australia ninety one for seven 0:02:39.773 --> 0:02:42.053 before Maxwell came in and scored a double century. So 0:02:42.573 --> 0:02:44.613 you know that should have been enough to tell them 0:02:44.613 --> 0:02:46.933 that they are a very good side. And you know, 0:02:46.973 --> 0:02:50.893 we talk a lot about this Afghanistan spin attack, but 0:02:50.973 --> 0:02:53.733 I thought they're swing and seam bowlers yesterday were outstanding. 0:02:54.173 --> 0:02:57.333 New Zealand completely outplayed and I thought they were embarrassing. 0:02:57.653 --> 0:03:00.733 Yeah, and Jerry, you know, we love to watch the 0:03:00.773 --> 0:03:03.933 New Zealand side performing well and we've enjoyed them over 0:03:03.933 --> 0:03:06.173 a long period of time, but that was hard to 0:03:06.253 --> 0:03:08.733 watch the whole style of play. 0:03:09.013 --> 0:03:12.413 Yeah, well, well done Afghanistan. I'm with Garth in that matter. 0:03:14.253 --> 0:03:17.013 A competitive total not out of the realm, was it 0:03:17.053 --> 0:03:20.053 one hundred and fifty nine, but with the help from 0:03:20.093 --> 0:03:23.773 the opposition errors really to get to that sort of total. 0:03:24.493 --> 0:03:27.733 And then they use their bowling weapons and they're not 0:03:27.933 --> 0:03:32.133 as garthsa is just one dimensional with spinners only. I mean, 0:03:32.213 --> 0:03:37.493 Farouki and Navin Alhak are very good medium fast bowlers, 0:03:37.533 --> 0:03:42.653 swing bowlers, good slower balls, have all the Armory play 0:03:42.733 --> 0:03:46.413 lots of T twenty format cricket. They don't play many 0:03:46.453 --> 0:03:50.413 Tests Afghanistan. I think they might have had three, so 0:03:50.453 --> 0:03:54.693 they really concentrate their efforts in the T twenty format 0:03:54.733 --> 0:03:59.093 and play in the stronger franchised ones too, ipl you know, 0:03:59.573 --> 0:04:05.653 Big Bash, those sorts of franchise games. So they are 0:04:05.893 --> 0:04:09.893 very competitive bowling unit and that proved to be the 0:04:09.893 --> 0:04:12.653 same yesterday. They didn't even have one of their main bowlers, 0:04:12.733 --> 0:04:16.693 Muji Rahman, did they who normally opens the bowling for them. 0:04:17.133 --> 0:04:21.773 So yeah, well done to them. And the thing, you know, 0:04:22.813 --> 0:04:25.493 I guess the magnitude of the loss for New Zealand 0:04:25.533 --> 0:04:30.013 will will shake them a bit. It'll shake every player 0:04:30.453 --> 0:04:33.373 and it should shake every coach as well. So we're 0:04:33.413 --> 0:04:36.373 you know, I'm sure you know we can either go 0:04:36.493 --> 0:04:39.933 through dissecting all the batting failures and things like that 0:04:40.013 --> 0:04:44.813 and decision making about them. But the general what you've 0:04:44.853 --> 0:04:48.893 talked about, I would just a lack of international intensity. 0:04:48.973 --> 0:04:53.253 I would call it kind of a general malaise. I 0:04:53.253 --> 0:04:56.533 don't mean overhype. They're not over hyped. They just they 0:04:56.573 --> 0:04:59.013 just need more focus on each ball to do your job. 0:04:59.853 --> 0:05:03.293 The fielding was the area That really annoyed me because 0:05:03.373 --> 0:05:06.373 we have prided ourselves. As Cain Williamson said in the 0:05:06.373 --> 0:05:11.013 postmatch acknowledging we were outplayed, but he was frustrated at 0:05:11.013 --> 0:05:13.533 the fielding. Well, you know, Cain Williamson can't do a 0:05:13.613 --> 0:05:15.893 lot about that, But as a team, you can do 0:05:15.933 --> 0:05:18.493 a lot about it, can't you. You've got to really 0:05:18.613 --> 0:05:21.573 do the hard yards out in the field, drop catches, 0:05:22.813 --> 0:05:25.333 you know, poor throws in from the outset. You talked 0:05:25.333 --> 0:05:28.133 about it, Jerry when we had Conway as the keeper. 0:05:28.173 --> 0:05:31.813 He trying to gather some pretty awkward throws coming and 0:05:31.813 --> 0:05:33.693 I know they like to bounce it in down, rough 0:05:33.773 --> 0:05:36.093 up the ball and all that sort of stuff. That's 0:05:36.133 --> 0:05:38.373 all part of the technics of the game. But that 0:05:38.533 --> 0:05:42.413 fielding to me was below what I expect from a 0:05:42.493 --> 0:05:45.133 New Zealand side and what we've seen in the past 0:05:45.173 --> 0:05:45.613 from them. 0:05:45.973 --> 0:05:48.333 It was and it was in a key area. I think, 0:05:48.373 --> 0:05:51.213 Brian we talked about how and I think we all 0:05:51.253 --> 0:05:54.373 agreed before the tournament that Conway should not be the 0:05:54.453 --> 0:05:56.533 keeper for New Zealand. And for me there were two 0:05:56.573 --> 0:05:58.773 reasons for that. One I don't think he's good enough 0:05:59.213 --> 0:06:02.973 and two I think it exposes him to injury, and 0:06:03.013 --> 0:06:05.773 he's been such an important part of the betting lineup, 0:06:05.773 --> 0:06:09.253 and of course he broke his some against Australia, so 0:06:09.773 --> 0:06:12.213 we've seen the vulnerability that can happen with him with 0:06:12.253 --> 0:06:18.013 the gloves. Now he missed Gerbaz on twelve. It was 0:06:18.053 --> 0:06:21.453 a difficult chance as Goebaz came down the pitch to 0:06:21.533 --> 0:06:24.253 Sant and drove it a ball. He got an inside edge, 0:06:24.413 --> 0:06:27.093 but there was an opportunity for a cat's or a stumping. 0:06:27.173 --> 0:06:29.973 He was out of his ground. He then we then 0:06:30.013 --> 0:06:33.693 saw Abraham being dropped on thirteen by Allan inexplicably on 0:06:33.693 --> 0:06:36.813 the squarely boundary, just an absolute lolly that went straight 0:06:36.853 --> 0:06:39.453 into him and hit him in the chest, barely got 0:06:39.453 --> 0:06:42.053 a hand in it. And then of course we had 0:06:42.093 --> 0:06:45.693 Gourbez again, the key batsman who scored eighty and batted 0:06:45.813 --> 0:06:49.853 very well, being missed in a run out by Conway, 0:06:50.653 --> 0:06:52.813 and that was of course the one where he played 0:06:52.853 --> 0:06:55.253 Satin at a short thirred man. Henry picked up the 0:06:55.293 --> 0:06:57.853 ball and it was just to the left of Conway. 0:06:57.933 --> 0:07:00.013 I thought Conway was in a bad position. He was 0:07:00.053 --> 0:07:02.933 standing to the side of the stumps. He took the 0:07:02.933 --> 0:07:05.333 ball and dropped it and there was a runout that 0:07:05.373 --> 0:07:08.733 should have been effected. So at that stage they were 0:07:08.733 --> 0:07:11.573 thirty nine without loss, you know, so chances of twenty nine, 0:07:11.733 --> 0:07:14.933 thirty three and thirty nine altmist and then on t 0:07:15.293 --> 0:07:18.133 firfty two of course fifty two without loss. We saw 0:07:18.173 --> 0:07:21.453 Abraham being dropped for the second time by Williamson at 0:07:21.493 --> 0:07:27.013 mid off. It was inexplicably bad. But that decision, which 0:07:27.453 --> 0:07:31.053 again what he said was wrong before the tournament started, 0:07:31.093 --> 0:07:34.613 that decision to play Conway as keeper has cost them dearly. 0:07:34.973 --> 0:07:36.653 The cost in this match, I think. 0:07:37.253 --> 0:07:38.013 Garth rang me. 0:07:38.093 --> 0:07:41.493 Actually I've been up in Orphan looking at my grandchildren 0:07:41.533 --> 0:07:42.413 watching their sport. 0:07:42.733 --> 0:07:45.173 Was yesterday Garth rang me. 0:07:45.213 --> 0:07:49.773 While I was watching hockey, Little Clem was playing, and 0:07:49.293 --> 0:07:53.173 he was actually pushing his own place as keeper in 0:07:53.253 --> 0:07:55.653 the New Zealand side, because he felt that he could 0:07:55.693 --> 0:07:58.573 do just as well as Conway and was making himself 0:07:58.573 --> 0:08:00.573 available at the last. 0:08:00.333 --> 0:08:02.893 Minute to take hold. 0:08:03.053 --> 0:08:09.133 Perhaps Clementine Omer darling Clementine and she about sort of 0:08:09.253 --> 0:08:10.573 nine nine or ten. 0:08:12.973 --> 0:08:13.693 It might be right. 0:08:14.293 --> 0:08:19.453 But I agree about the fielding. They didn't look much ready. 0:08:19.653 --> 0:08:23.493 I wonder whether they have actually had catches and practiced 0:08:23.533 --> 0:08:27.253 catching under lights at that venue. I would say not, 0:08:29.213 --> 0:08:33.453 they'd have to organize it. But you know, I just 0:08:33.533 --> 0:08:37.693 felt finale and he was beaten and surprised by the 0:08:37.693 --> 0:08:40.093 pace of the ball. He just didn't triangulate on the 0:08:40.133 --> 0:08:42.573 ball that was through his hands and as you say, 0:08:42.613 --> 0:08:46.853 into his chest. And we've seen fielding and accuracy's wads 0:08:46.893 --> 0:08:50.893 for some time with the side. They are slowly lowering 0:08:50.933 --> 0:08:55.293 their standards. You think of Australia the last day, first 0:08:55.693 --> 0:08:57.933 just in just in the sort of the ring area 0:08:58.053 --> 0:09:01.413 that you know, Ravindra put a catch down and then 0:09:01.493 --> 0:09:04.373 marsh went on to make about sixty or seventy. We 0:09:04.533 --> 0:09:09.053 saw catchers drop that slip you know by Mitchell. You 0:09:09.093 --> 0:09:13.093 know we are dropping catchers regularly now. And I don't 0:09:13.173 --> 0:09:18.253 know who the fielding coaches is there one, but there 0:09:18.133 --> 0:09:19.173 are certainly. 0:09:20.213 --> 0:09:20.453 Yeah. 0:09:20.653 --> 0:09:24.253 Well you know that you've got the gloves, Yeah, is 0:09:24.293 --> 0:09:24.933 it okay? 0:09:24.973 --> 0:09:26.253 Well you know. 0:09:28.213 --> 0:09:30.293 You got the you got the gloves on. You can 0:09:30.333 --> 0:09:33.573 take a ball at shoulder height. You might say to 0:09:33.613 --> 0:09:37.613 yourselvit was a bit high, but you got the gloves on. 0:09:37.693 --> 0:09:38.893 You're an international keeper. 0:09:38.933 --> 0:09:40.933 You take that and you break the stumps and you 0:09:40.973 --> 0:09:45.173 affect a pretty regular chance for a running don't you. 0:09:46.173 --> 0:09:52.053 The the issue of team work together and playing as 0:09:52.093 --> 0:09:54.333 a team. And it's all very well to practice in 0:09:54.373 --> 0:09:56.253 the nets. There's no pressure in the nets, is there. 0:09:56.413 --> 0:09:59.053 You just put the stump back in and and you 0:09:59.173 --> 0:10:03.093 play another shot. But the pressure and the situation of 0:10:03.093 --> 0:10:06.613 a team game and playing teams you work together, and 0:10:06.693 --> 0:10:11.093 I just didn't see that you within the fielding effort. 0:10:11.133 --> 0:10:14.213 It was eleven players running around in the outfield, all 0:10:14.253 --> 0:10:17.893 those sorts of things. Why you have warm up games? 0:10:18.173 --> 0:10:22.093 I made of mind. We're talking about it, and he 0:10:22.173 --> 0:10:24.413 basically said, with the All Blacks go to an international 0:10:24.453 --> 0:10:29.093 tournament without having a prep game, With the Sevens go 0:10:29.253 --> 0:10:32.533 to the Olympic Games without having a preparation game or two. 0:10:32.933 --> 0:10:36.613 I mean, those sorts of things are paramount, don't they. 0:10:37.053 --> 0:10:39.613 It was a very very messy build up, wasn't it. 0:10:40.493 --> 0:10:43.613 You know when you think those sending players back from 0:10:43.653 --> 0:10:46.533 the IPL to be with their families for a few moments, 0:10:47.093 --> 0:10:50.773 and then people arriving at different times from all sorts 0:10:50.773 --> 0:10:55.053 of places, no warm up games, practices interrupted by rain. 0:10:55.933 --> 0:10:59.373 Did they replace those practices with something with some intensity? 0:10:59.773 --> 0:11:00.693 That's what you've got to have. 0:11:00.733 --> 0:11:03.093 You've got to get that level of intensity about your 0:11:03.133 --> 0:11:08.133 practice and so yeah, I mean Australia did, and they 0:11:08.373 --> 0:11:12.213 us coaches a coaching staff to make up the numbers. 0:11:12.813 --> 0:11:15.493 They were going to have a hell bent to have 0:11:15.573 --> 0:11:17.453 some match played before this tournament. 0:11:18.453 --> 0:11:22.853 Yeah. The point is, and we understand that families are 0:11:22.893 --> 0:11:24.733 important and that players have to have spend time with 0:11:24.773 --> 0:11:27.973 their families, but they are professional cricketers and this is 0:11:27.973 --> 0:11:33.453 an international tournament. Surely they can make their plans slightly 0:11:33.493 --> 0:11:36.373 differently when it comes to family time. And I'm not 0:11:36.613 --> 0:11:39.373 knocking the fact that they're spending time with their families, 0:11:39.413 --> 0:11:42.093 because people will get up in arms about that sort 0:11:42.093 --> 0:11:46.773 of issue. But they've known when this tournament was New 0:11:46.853 --> 0:11:50.373 Zealand cricketers none and these players have been at the 0:11:50.373 --> 0:11:53.853 IPL hardly playing any crickets. And I'm glad they're getting 0:11:53.853 --> 0:11:56.733 the money for it, but you know, this is New 0:11:56.773 --> 0:12:01.613 Zealand represented at an international tournament and I just don't 0:12:01.653 --> 0:12:02.453 think that's good enough. 0:12:03.413 --> 0:12:06.093 Well, you think about how I think you look. Ben 0:12:06.413 --> 0:12:10.853 Ond's about how it manifested itself. So so you know 0:12:11.053 --> 0:12:12.773 what difference did it make? Well, it made a lot 0:12:12.813 --> 0:12:14.573 of difference. And those are the things that we're talking 0:12:14.613 --> 0:12:18.813 about those simple mistakes. You saw Afghanistan who were absolutely 0:12:18.893 --> 0:12:21.973 drilled into New Zealand from the start. You know, I 0:12:22.013 --> 0:12:24.653 thought that their batting was measured at the top of 0:12:24.693 --> 0:12:27.733 the order, that they didn't smash the ball around because 0:12:27.733 --> 0:12:30.173 they weren't able to in those conditions. One of the 0:12:30.213 --> 0:12:31.973 things that we're seeing in the tournament, I think, and 0:12:31.973 --> 0:12:34.973 it's happening in both the USA and in the West Indies, 0:12:35.133 --> 0:12:37.653 is that the ball is swinging around quite a lot, 0:12:37.733 --> 0:12:39.853 and it's also carrying on off the pits. There's quite 0:12:39.853 --> 0:12:42.573 a lot of scene movement and that means, you know, 0:12:42.613 --> 0:12:44.853 for me that the batsmen had to change their approach. 0:12:44.973 --> 0:12:49.293 So you're not seeing in the IPL you're seeing sometimes 0:12:49.333 --> 0:12:52.773 sixty seventy eighty ninety runs scored in the power play. 0:12:52.813 --> 0:12:54.773 We're not seeing anything like that in this tournament at 0:12:54.813 --> 0:12:57.613 the moment. And the sides who are adjusting are the 0:12:57.653 --> 0:13:00.173 ones who are doing well in New Zealand to me. 0:13:00.613 --> 0:13:03.413 You know, we saw Ellen come out and as they 0:13:03.493 --> 0:13:05.733 said on Krikinfoe, he tried to hit the ball into 0:13:05.773 --> 0:13:08.933 the ocean first ball. I mean, it was a creatibly 0:13:08.973 --> 0:13:12.373 full of shot in those conditions. Again, if we look 0:13:12.373 --> 0:13:15.373 at how things manifest themselves. I thought that bowl pretty 0:13:15.373 --> 0:13:18.013 well two for twenty two. He was on the money 0:13:18.053 --> 0:13:19.773 and he's a player who's been playing a lot in 0:13:19.813 --> 0:13:23.093 the IPL. Henry, I thought, just bowl too short when 0:13:23.133 --> 0:13:26.173 he was getting a movement, you know, you want to see. 0:13:26.413 --> 0:13:28.733 I think the bowlers who are in rhythm and who've 0:13:28.773 --> 0:13:30.733 had a good build up when the ball is moving 0:13:30.733 --> 0:13:33.053 around as it is, they pitched the ball up a 0:13:33.053 --> 0:13:36.373 lot more. Otherwise, I think Henry gave the batsman too much, 0:13:36.893 --> 0:13:41.253 too much work really and too much length, too short. 0:13:41.293 --> 0:13:44.053 Satner and I thought bold well brace well three overs 0:13:44.093 --> 0:13:46.773 nine to twenty seven got smacked, but Ferguson was okay. 0:13:46.813 --> 0:13:51.093 But again, if we the fielding mistakes show that they 0:13:51.133 --> 0:13:53.293 weren't in the zone and that build up has not 0:13:53.413 --> 0:13:56.773 been satisfactory. Jerry, you talked about how much training they 0:13:56.773 --> 0:13:58.893 did under light. It's my understanding is that they had 0:13:58.933 --> 0:14:03.333 one session and I heard Became Williamson talking about you 0:14:03.373 --> 0:14:06.573 know that they have to they get allocated time, so 0:14:06.613 --> 0:14:10.133 they get what they get and again you would know 0:14:10.253 --> 0:14:12.373 all of that going into the tournament, so you know 0:14:12.413 --> 0:14:15.053 what preparation you have to do before you get there. 0:14:15.493 --> 0:14:17.693 I thought one of the other things. That was absolutely 0:14:17.693 --> 0:14:20.413 extraordinary in this New Zealand performance. And I was yelling 0:14:20.493 --> 0:14:22.973 at the at the TV when it happened, was that 0:14:23.493 --> 0:14:26.013 Williams and brought Mitchell on to bowl the nineteenth over. 0:14:26.693 --> 0:14:31.413 That that was just bizarre and sixteen runs came off it. Again. 0:14:31.453 --> 0:14:34.093 You know, Mitchell's done very limited bowling and international T 0:14:34.093 --> 0:14:36.413 twenty stuff, strange things. 0:14:36.733 --> 0:14:40.133 Yeah, that was the That was the decision to complete 0:14:40.253 --> 0:14:43.333 Bracewell's compliment, wasn't it. When he went for that he 0:14:43.373 --> 0:14:46.133 went he was hit for three sixers I think in 0:14:46.173 --> 0:14:49.573 his third over, and he was a bit reluctant to 0:14:49.733 --> 0:14:53.093 use him again, but he left it so late and 0:14:53.373 --> 0:14:55.933 as you say, the nineteenth over to bring just one 0:14:56.013 --> 0:14:58.293 over from Mitchell, that was a you know, it was 0:14:58.333 --> 0:15:00.373 a bit desperate, wasn't it. The whole thing had a 0:15:00.413 --> 0:15:04.773 look of it like that. So yeah, things just did 0:15:04.773 --> 0:15:07.613 not go well. And even in the best batting too, 0:15:08.333 --> 0:15:11.053 just felt mistakes were made right from the start. I 0:15:12.533 --> 0:15:17.293 can't understand, you know, someone like Vanellen. You know, I 0:15:17.333 --> 0:15:21.693 didn't think that the ball was swinging aggressively. I didn't 0:15:21.693 --> 0:15:25.773 think it was swinging wildly. It was just shaping gently back. 0:15:25.813 --> 0:15:28.933 It was his first ball, and he was he bowleded 0:15:29.133 --> 0:15:33.453 very full and really it was a regulation left dam 0:15:33.773 --> 0:15:36.053 And you've got Bolt there, surely you know. 0:15:36.053 --> 0:15:36.733 As an opener. 0:15:37.093 --> 0:15:40.733 The opposition have got Feruki that you know that he's 0:15:40.773 --> 0:15:42.933 going to swing it, probably a little bit as much 0:15:42.973 --> 0:15:45.373 as Bolt, but you've got Bolt there to bowl at 0:15:45.373 --> 0:15:48.213 you with a new ball. Come on, pitch it full 0:15:48.293 --> 0:15:50.693 to me, keep it up to me, swing it at me, 0:15:51.053 --> 0:15:54.253 give me some practice. This is part of your surely 0:15:54.333 --> 0:15:59.333 part of your preparation. And you shouldn't be caught by 0:15:59.493 --> 0:16:03.293 surprise trying to hit it into the ocean. You shouldn't 0:16:03.293 --> 0:16:06.053 be caught trying to go too wide with it. It 0:16:06.133 --> 0:16:09.293 just goes down past mid d if anything, or straight 0:16:09.333 --> 0:16:12.013 back at the bowl, so you use the full width 0:16:12.013 --> 0:16:15.853 of your bat. That's pretty basic, isn't it. We want 0:16:15.933 --> 0:16:19.413 someone like fin Allen to bat between twenty four and 0:16:19.533 --> 0:16:23.213 thirty balls. That's all we want from your Finn, not 0:16:23.373 --> 0:16:28.173 one ball. That's very important start to our game. 0:16:28.653 --> 0:16:32.293 Well, Luke Ronky said in something that I saw on 0:16:32.333 --> 0:16:36.373 Instagram before the game, we have to understand our plans 0:16:36.813 --> 0:16:40.213 and their wicket taking balls and the skills they have, 0:16:40.933 --> 0:16:44.333 and we have to back our own style and making 0:16:44.333 --> 0:16:47.533 sure we go out with the full belief and how 0:16:47.573 --> 0:16:50.013 we want to play as a New Zealand cricket team. Well, 0:16:50.013 --> 0:16:52.893 you can try and decipher that, but the point is 0:16:53.413 --> 0:16:57.493 if we have to understand our plans and their wicket 0:16:57.533 --> 0:17:01.573 taking balls. I thought Allan showed an absolute failure to 0:17:01.693 --> 0:17:05.773 understand that. And like you, Jerry, I agree it wasn't 0:17:05.813 --> 0:17:09.893 moving around viciously. But for some of these players, they're 0:17:09.933 --> 0:17:12.053 so used to playing where the ball doesn't move in 0:17:12.133 --> 0:17:15.173 it's so flat and they've got to make adjustments when 0:17:15.173 --> 0:17:18.213 the ball moves around. And that's a test of how 0:17:18.253 --> 0:17:20.253 these guys will go. Now they've got the West Indies 0:17:20.253 --> 0:17:24.053 on Wednesday and they're potentially out of the tournament unless 0:17:24.053 --> 0:17:26.293 they can change things. One of the things I would do, 0:17:26.333 --> 0:17:28.573 I would drop Allen. I'd get revengerin he should have 0:17:28.573 --> 0:17:30.613 played Yester. That wouldn't It wouldn't have made the difference 0:17:30.653 --> 0:17:33.533 between the two teams. But I just think about dropping 0:17:33.533 --> 0:17:35.653 Allen and saying it's just not good enough. And this 0:17:35.693 --> 0:17:37.453 is the message when you need to send You dropped 0:17:37.453 --> 0:17:39.453 a simple catch, you played a terrible shot and you 0:17:39.533 --> 0:17:43.733 contributed nothing, and you've gone will they do that, probably not. 0:17:44.533 --> 0:17:48.973 He's been injured and as recovering from injury, so you 0:17:48.973 --> 0:17:52.533 know that's another person who hasn't been playing a lot 0:17:52.533 --> 0:17:54.493 of cricket, as was the case with a lot of 0:17:54.533 --> 0:17:58.413 these people. The point you make is, yeah, it is 0:17:58.453 --> 0:18:00.893 the West Indies and tournament over. If you don't, wouldn't 0:18:00.973 --> 0:18:03.893 that game? But how do you get it right? Apparently 0:18:04.293 --> 0:18:10.533 the team meeting after the game was one of hard talking. 0:18:10.813 --> 0:18:14.133 That was the words of Luke Ronky. We had long, 0:18:14.213 --> 0:18:16.933 hard discussions. But how do you change it in a 0:18:16.933 --> 0:18:18.053 short space of time. 0:18:18.693 --> 0:18:20.893 Very hard to when you come in with nothing behind you. 0:18:21.813 --> 0:18:23.933 That's the problem. And I think you know the West 0:18:23.973 --> 0:18:26.573 Indies will be licking their lips about playing the side. 0:18:27.613 --> 0:18:29.573 I mean, I think one of the things well, I 0:18:29.573 --> 0:18:30.813 think one of the things you got to think about 0:18:30.853 --> 0:18:33.133 it is do you send a signal that we expect 0:18:33.133 --> 0:18:35.813 more from our plans so you say to Allen you 0:18:35.813 --> 0:18:39.773 can stand down for this match. That's something I would 0:18:39.813 --> 0:18:42.973 certainly think about mentally. How do you do it? I 0:18:43.053 --> 0:18:45.373 think it's very hard. When you watched the comboy at 0:18:45.373 --> 0:18:48.773 the top of the innings and Williamson and Mitchell all 0:18:48.813 --> 0:18:52.493 scratching around seemingly unable when the ball was moving around, 0:18:52.653 --> 0:18:54.813 just to get bat on ball and to push it. 0:18:55.933 --> 0:18:58.373 But I in the gaps and look for ones and 0:18:58.413 --> 0:19:00.453 twos and so on. I think they've got to go 0:19:00.573 --> 0:19:03.613 back to a really basic and simple structure. I think 0:19:03.653 --> 0:19:05.853 if the ball's moving around, you've got to encourage the 0:19:05.853 --> 0:19:08.493 balls to pitch the ball up. Obviously, they have to 0:19:08.533 --> 0:19:11.493 do a lot of work on their fielding, and the batsmen, 0:19:11.893 --> 0:19:15.133 you know, had to stop going. I think for these, 0:19:15.653 --> 0:19:17.853 you know, the all or nothing shots, I think they've 0:19:17.893 --> 0:19:20.213 got to look to get you know, thirty forty fifty 0:19:20.253 --> 0:19:23.453 in the powerplay, not lose too many like it's at 0:19:23.453 --> 0:19:25.093 the top, and see if they can build on that. 0:19:26.293 --> 0:19:28.373 You know, you know, one of the things is I 0:19:28.413 --> 0:19:30.653 say that we're seeing is the balls moving around. So 0:19:30.653 --> 0:19:31.933 they've got to change the plans. 0:19:32.653 --> 0:19:35.693 Look, when you get into situations where either the pitcher 0:19:35.773 --> 0:19:39.173 is doing a little bit and it's difficult to play 0:19:39.213 --> 0:19:42.493 the big shots, you have to rain your game in 0:19:42.533 --> 0:19:47.413 a little bit. You just cannot keep playing wildly irrespective 0:19:48.053 --> 0:19:50.533 of what's happening in front of you. Now, that can 0:19:50.573 --> 0:19:52.773 be up to the bowler if he's doing it well. 0:19:52.813 --> 0:19:56.373 Before a pictures. So it's drifting or it's dropping or 0:19:56.453 --> 0:19:59.413 whatever it is, or when it hits the surface and 0:19:59.453 --> 0:20:02.733 does something you were just and so you start to 0:20:02.773 --> 0:20:06.813 show your craft as a batsman. Now we have got 0:20:06.853 --> 0:20:11.133 those sorts of players, Ah Williamson, Now we have to 0:20:11.493 --> 0:20:14.453 we have to be smart. We've generally been quite a 0:20:14.533 --> 0:20:20.613 smart side in tournaments. We haven't scored towering number of runs, 0:20:20.933 --> 0:20:24.893 but we've got to a total that is competitive and 0:20:25.093 --> 0:20:29.893 fought away and scrapped away and held our catchers. That's 0:20:29.933 --> 0:20:32.773 the way that New Zealand has has got through to 0:20:32.853 --> 0:20:37.053 the second phase of all these t twenty tournaments so 0:20:37.293 --> 0:20:40.773 far that they've played. We're going to probably miss this one, 0:20:40.813 --> 0:20:43.693 I'm thinking. I mean, I would be thinking. Uganda would 0:20:43.693 --> 0:20:45.493 say to themselves we can beat New Zealand. 0:20:46.413 --> 0:20:46.973 You know that. 0:20:46.973 --> 0:20:49.973 That's the way that they played yesterday, New Zealand. So 0:20:50.693 --> 0:20:54.973 look at the thinking yesterday too. Williamson steering a ball 0:20:55.013 --> 0:20:59.853 to slip when presumably he wanted to go to the 0:20:59.933 --> 0:21:02.973 right of slip, but there was a short third manner 0:21:03.653 --> 0:21:04.213 as well. 0:21:04.533 --> 0:21:05.373 What is the point? 0:21:05.413 --> 0:21:09.173 Where's the value of that shot? It shows no power 0:21:09.653 --> 0:21:12.973 coming from the captain. It was a weird stroke. And 0:21:13.013 --> 0:21:15.253 I think Ian Smith said there's a shot of a 0:21:15.293 --> 0:21:19.253 man who hasn't played any cricket recently, and that's absolutely 0:21:19.373 --> 0:21:23.333 right Chapman. You know, when you're facing rushed car and 0:21:23.373 --> 0:21:26.453 you get one dragged down just a little, he plays 0:21:26.453 --> 0:21:29.693 a big sort of pull and its bold. You've got 0:21:29.693 --> 0:21:32.533 to be playing that and say to yourself, what's the 0:21:32.653 --> 0:21:36.173 risk of rushing khn He is a flat quick and 0:21:36.213 --> 0:21:38.093 he's going to skid on at me. He doesn't turn 0:21:38.133 --> 0:21:41.133 the ball wildly, but he's going to skid on at me. 0:21:41.453 --> 0:21:44.053 I'm not going to play those until I'm not he 0:21:44.133 --> 0:21:47.013 only got four. If he was forty four, yes you 0:21:47.093 --> 0:21:50.573 might play the poll shot, but until you get a 0:21:50.813 --> 0:21:54.573 start because you're a main batsman at number six, especially 0:21:54.573 --> 0:21:57.253 when you're four down for twenty or whatever they were 0:21:57.293 --> 0:21:59.813