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Speaker 2: Hello on the Front Foot? Will you again keeping an
Speaker 2: eye on the World Tea? Twenty one week into it,
Speaker 2: black Caps stumble at the first turtle? Was it punishment
Speaker 2: for a lack of match preparation? The Americans produced the
Speaker 2: surprise of the tournament so far, Doubting Pakistan but god
Speaker 2: he's there, but just take a prices come under the
Speaker 2: microscope and the Whitebirds, well they've made a significant choice
Speaker 2: for their England tour. Former Black Cap bat batting coach
Speaker 2: Craig McMillan is going to be with them. Interesting change.
Speaker 2: Garth Galliley and Jeremy Cody with me. That was difficult
Speaker 2: watching a Black Cap side performing as poorly as they did.
Speaker 2: They were lack class. Dame Garth, you know we talked
Speaker 2: about it leading up to this. You've got to have
Speaker 2: some preparations, you've got to be ready to go from
Speaker 2: ball one. They were very ordinary playing that opening game
Speaker 2: against deff Gellison and they under restraate Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: That was my impresson Brian and the last time we
Speaker 4: were together doing the podcast, we just talked about the
Speaker 4: need for good preparation and that New Zealand seemed to
Speaker 4: be taking a significant risk by going into this tournament
Speaker 4: without other build up and I'm afraid they got They
Speaker 4: got caught out by it very badly yesterday by a
Speaker 4: very good, f gunny side. I mean the Afghanistan side.
Speaker 4: They just looked completely switched on and I thought the
Speaker 4: New Zealand side looked bewildered. And as you say, I
Speaker 4: mean the question is did we underestimate Afghanistan. I suppose
Speaker 4: New Zealand will come out and say we were outplayed
Speaker 4: and we didn't, but my impression was that we did
Speaker 4: and we were quite wrong to. We only need to
Speaker 4: look back at the you know, the Cricket World Cup
Speaker 4: in India last year where Afghanistan scored two hundred and
Speaker 4: ninety one for five against against Australia and Ibraham of
Speaker 4: course scored one hundred and twenty nine not out in
Speaker 4: that match and they had Australia ninety one for seven
Speaker 4: before Maxwell came in and scored a double century. So
Speaker 4: you know that should have been enough to tell them
Speaker 4: that they are a very good side. And you know,
Speaker 4: we talk a lot about this Afghanistan spin attack, but
Speaker 4: I thought they're swing and seam bowlers yesterday were outstanding.
Speaker 4: New Zealand completely outplayed and I thought they were embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jerry, you know, we love to watch the
Speaker 2: New Zealand side performing well and we've enjoyed them over
Speaker 2: a long period of time, but that was hard to
Speaker 2: watch the whole style of play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well done Afghanistan. I'm with Garth in that matter.
Speaker 5: A competitive total not out of the realm, was it
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty nine, but with the help from
Speaker 5: the opposition errors really to get to that sort of total.
Speaker 5: And then they use their bowling weapons and they're not
Speaker 5: as garthsa is just one dimensional with spinners only. I mean,
Speaker 5: Farouki and Navin Alhak are very good medium fast bowlers,
Speaker 5: swing bowlers, good slower balls, have all the Armory play
Speaker 5: lots of T twenty format cricket. They don't play many
Speaker 5: Tests Afghanistan. I think they might have had three, so
Speaker 5: they really concentrate their efforts in the T twenty format
Speaker 5: and play in the stronger franchised ones too, ipl you know,
Speaker 5: Big Bash, those sorts of franchise games. So they are
Speaker 5: very competitive bowling unit and that proved to be the
Speaker 5: same yesterday. They didn't even have one of their main bowlers,
Speaker 5: Muji Rahman, did they who normally opens the bowling for them.
Speaker 5: So yeah, well done to them. And the thing, you know,
Speaker 5: I guess the magnitude of the loss for New Zealand
Speaker 5: will will shake them a bit. It'll shake every player
Speaker 5: and it should shake every coach as well. So we're
Speaker 5: you know, I'm sure you know we can either go
Speaker 5: through dissecting all the batting failures and things like that
Speaker 5: and decision making about them. But the general what you've
Speaker 5: talked about, I would just a lack of international intensity.
Speaker 5: I would call it kind of a general malaise. I
Speaker 5: don't mean overhype. They're not over hyped. They just they
Speaker 5: just need more focus on each ball to do your job.
Speaker 2: The fielding was the area That really annoyed me because
Speaker 2: we have prided ourselves. As Cain Williamson said in the
Speaker 2: postmatch acknowledging we were outplayed, but he was frustrated at
Speaker 2: the fielding. Well, you know, Cain Williamson can't do a
Speaker 2: lot about that, But as a team, you can do
Speaker 2: a lot about it, can't you. You've got to really
Speaker 2: do the hard yards out in the field, drop catches,
Speaker 2: you know, poor throws in from the outset. You talked
Speaker 2: about it, Jerry when we had Conway as the keeper.
Speaker 2: He trying to gather some pretty awkward throws coming and
Speaker 2: I know they like to bounce it in down, rough
Speaker 2: up the ball and all that sort of stuff. That's
Speaker 2: all part of the technics of the game. But that
Speaker 2: fielding to me was below what I expect from a
Speaker 2: New Zealand side and what we've seen in the past
Speaker 2: from them.
Speaker 4: It was and it was in a key area. I think,
Speaker 4: Brian we talked about how and I think we all
Speaker 4: agreed before the tournament that Conway should not be the
Speaker 4: keeper for New Zealand. And for me there were two
Speaker 4: reasons for that. One I don't think he's good enough
Speaker 4: and two I think it exposes him to injury, and
Speaker 4: he's been such an important part of the betting lineup,
Speaker 4: and of course he broke his some against Australia, so
Speaker 4: we've seen the vulnerability that can happen with him with
Speaker 4: the gloves. Now he missed Gerbaz on twelve. It was
Speaker 4: a difficult chance as Goebaz came down the pitch to
Speaker 4: Sant and drove it a ball. He got an inside edge,
Speaker 4: but there was an opportunity for a cat's or a stumping.
Speaker 4: He was out of his ground. He then we then
Speaker 4: saw Abraham being dropped on thirteen by Allan inexplicably on
Speaker 4: the squarely boundary, just an absolute lolly that went straight
Speaker 4: into him and hit him in the chest, barely got
Speaker 4: a hand in it. And then of course we had
Speaker 4: Gourbez again, the key batsman who scored eighty and batted
Speaker 4: very well, being missed in a run out by Conway,
Speaker 4: and that was of course the one where he played
Speaker 4: Satin at a short thirred man. Henry picked up the
Speaker 4: ball and it was just to the left of Conway.
Speaker 4: I thought Conway was in a bad position. He was
Speaker 4: standing to the side of the stumps. He took the
Speaker 4: ball and dropped it and there was a runout that
Speaker 4: should have been effected. So at that stage they were
Speaker 4: thirty nine without loss, you know, so chances of twenty nine,
Speaker 4: thirty three and thirty nine altmist and then on t
Speaker 4: firfty two of course fifty two without loss. We saw
Speaker 4: Abraham being dropped for the second time by Williamson at
Speaker 4: mid off. It was inexplicably bad. But that decision, which
Speaker 4: again what he said was wrong before the tournament started,
Speaker 4: that decision to play Conway as keeper has cost them dearly.
Speaker 4: The cost in this match, I think.
Speaker 3: Garth rang me.
Speaker 5: Actually I've been up in Orphan looking at my grandchildren
Speaker 5: watching their sport.
Speaker 3: Was yesterday Garth rang me.
Speaker 5: While I was watching hockey, Little Clem was playing, and
Speaker 5: he was actually pushing his own place as keeper in
Speaker 5: the New Zealand side, because he felt that he could
Speaker 5: do just as well as Conway and was making himself
Speaker 5: available at the last.
Speaker 3: Minute to take hold.
Speaker 5: Perhaps Clementine Omer darling Clementine and she about sort of
Speaker 5: nine nine or ten.
Speaker 3: It might be right.
Speaker 5: But I agree about the fielding. They didn't look much ready.
Speaker 5: I wonder whether they have actually had catches and practiced
Speaker 5: catching under lights at that venue. I would say not,
Speaker 5: they'd have to organize it. But you know, I just
Speaker 5: felt finale and he was beaten and surprised by the
Speaker 5: pace of the ball. He just didn't triangulate on the
Speaker 5: ball that was through his hands and as you say,
Speaker 5: into his chest. And we've seen fielding and accuracy's wads
Speaker 5: for some time with the side. They are slowly lowering
Speaker 5: their standards. You think of Australia the last day, first
Speaker 5: just in just in the sort of the ring area
Speaker 5: that you know, Ravindra put a catch down and then
Speaker 5: marsh went on to make about sixty or seventy. We
Speaker 5: saw catchers drop that slip you know by Mitchell. You
Speaker 5: know we are dropping catchers regularly now. And I don't
Speaker 5: know who the fielding coaches is there one, but there
Speaker 5: are certainly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well you know that you've got the gloves, Yeah, is
Speaker 5: it okay?
Speaker 3: Well you know.
Speaker 5: You got the you got the gloves on. You can
Speaker 5: take a ball at shoulder height. You might say to
Speaker 5: yourselvit was a bit high, but you got the gloves on.
Speaker 3: You're an international keeper.
Speaker 5: You take that and you break the stumps and you
Speaker 5: affect a pretty regular chance for a running don't you.
Speaker 2: The the issue of team work together and playing as
Speaker 2: a team. And it's all very well to practice in
Speaker 2: the nets. There's no pressure in the nets, is there.
Speaker 2: You just put the stump back in and and you
Speaker 2: play another shot. But the pressure and the situation of
Speaker 2: a team game and playing teams you work together, and
Speaker 2: I just didn't see that you within the fielding effort.
Speaker 2: It was eleven players running around in the outfield, all
Speaker 2: those sorts of things. Why you have warm up games?
Speaker 2: I made of mind. We're talking about it, and he
Speaker 2: basically said, with the All Blacks go to an international
Speaker 2: tournament without having a prep game, With the Sevens go
Speaker 2: to the Olympic Games without having a preparation game or two.
Speaker 2: I mean, those sorts of things are paramount, don't they.
Speaker 3: It was a very very messy build up, wasn't it.
Speaker 5: You know when you think those sending players back from
Speaker 5: the IPL to be with their families for a few moments,
Speaker 5: and then people arriving at different times from all sorts
Speaker 5: of places, no warm up games, practices interrupted by rain.
Speaker 5: Did they replace those practices with something with some intensity?
Speaker 3: That's what you've got to have.
Speaker 5: You've got to get that level of intensity about your
Speaker 5: practice and so yeah, I mean Australia did, and they
Speaker 5: us coaches a coaching staff to make up the numbers.
Speaker 5: They were going to have a hell bent to have
Speaker 5: some match played before this tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The point is, and we understand that families are
Speaker 2: important and that players have to have spend time with
Speaker 2: their families, but they are professional cricketers and this is
Speaker 2: an international tournament. Surely they can make their plans slightly
Speaker 2: differently when it comes to family time. And I'm not
Speaker 2: knocking the fact that they're spending time with their families,
Speaker 2: because people will get up in arms about that sort
Speaker 2: of issue. But they've known when this tournament was New
Speaker 2: Zealand cricketers none and these players have been at the
Speaker 2: IPL hardly playing any crickets. And I'm glad they're getting
Speaker 2: the money for it, but you know, this is New
Speaker 2: Zealand represented at an international tournament and I just don't
Speaker 2: think that's good enough.
Speaker 4: Well, you think about how I think you look. Ben
Speaker 4: Ond's about how it manifested itself. So so you know
Speaker 4: what difference did it make? Well, it made a lot
Speaker 4: of difference. And those are the things that we're talking
Speaker 4: about those simple mistakes. You saw Afghanistan who were absolutely
Speaker 4: drilled into New Zealand from the start. You know, I
Speaker 4: thought that their batting was measured at the top of
Speaker 4: the order, that they didn't smash the ball around because
Speaker 4: they weren't able to in those conditions. One of the
Speaker 4: things that we're seeing in the tournament, I think, and
Speaker 4: it's happening in both the USA and in the West Indies,
Speaker 4: is that the ball is swinging around quite a lot,
Speaker 4: and it's also carrying on off the pits. There's quite
Speaker 4: a lot of scene movement and that means, you know,
Speaker 4: for me that the batsmen had to change their approach.
Speaker 4: So you're not seeing in the IPL you're seeing sometimes
Speaker 4: sixty seventy eighty ninety runs scored in the power play.
Speaker 4: We're not seeing anything like that in this tournament at
Speaker 4: the moment. And the sides who are adjusting are the
Speaker 4: ones who are doing well in New Zealand to me.
Speaker 4: You know, we saw Ellen come out and as they
Speaker 4: said on Krikinfoe, he tried to hit the ball into
Speaker 4: the ocean first ball. I mean, it was a creatibly
Speaker 4: full of shot in those conditions. Again, if we look
Speaker 4: at how things manifest themselves. I thought that bowl pretty
Speaker 4: well two for twenty two. He was on the money
Speaker 4: and he's a player who's been playing a lot in
Speaker 4: the IPL. Henry, I thought, just bowl too short when
Speaker 4: he was getting a movement, you know, you want to see.
Speaker 4: I think the bowlers who are in rhythm and who've
Speaker 4: had a good build up when the ball is moving
Speaker 4: around as it is, they pitched the ball up a
Speaker 4: lot more. Otherwise, I think Henry gave the batsman too much,
Speaker 4: too much work really and too much length, too short.
Speaker 4: Satner and I thought bold well brace well three overs
Speaker 4: nine to twenty seven got smacked, but Ferguson was okay.
Speaker 4: But again, if we the fielding mistakes show that they
Speaker 4: weren't in the zone and that build up has not
Speaker 4: been satisfactory. Jerry, you talked about how much training they
Speaker 4: did under light. It's my understanding is that they had
Speaker 4: one session and I heard Became Williamson talking about you
Speaker 4: know that they have to they get allocated time, so
Speaker 4: they get what they get and again you would know
Speaker 4: all of that going into the tournament, so you know
Speaker 4: what preparation you have to do before you get there.
Speaker 4: I thought one of the other things. That was absolutely
Speaker 4: extraordinary in this New Zealand performance. And I was yelling
Speaker 4: at the at the TV when it happened, was that
Speaker 4: Williams and brought Mitchell on to bowl the nineteenth over.
Speaker 4: That that was just bizarre and sixteen runs came off it. Again.
Speaker 4: You know, Mitchell's done very limited bowling and international T
Speaker 4: twenty stuff, strange things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the That was the decision to complete
Speaker 5: Bracewell's compliment, wasn't it. When he went for that he
Speaker 5: went he was hit for three sixers I think in
Speaker 5: his third over, and he was a bit reluctant to
Speaker 5: use him again, but he left it so late and
Speaker 5: as you say, the nineteenth over to bring just one
Speaker 5: over from Mitchell, that was a you know, it was
Speaker 5: a bit desperate, wasn't it. The whole thing had a
Speaker 5: look of it like that. So yeah, things just did
Speaker 5: not go well. And even in the best batting too,
Speaker 5: just felt mistakes were made right from the start. I
Speaker 5: can't understand, you know, someone like Vanellen. You know, I
Speaker 5: didn't think that the ball was swinging aggressively. I didn't
Speaker 5: think it was swinging wildly. It was just shaping gently back.
Speaker 5: It was his first ball, and he was he bowleded
Speaker 5: very full and really it was a regulation left dam
Speaker 5: And you've got Bolt there, surely you know.
Speaker 3: As an opener.
Speaker 5: The opposition have got Feruki that you know that he's
Speaker 5: going to swing it, probably a little bit as much
Speaker 5: as Bolt, but you've got Bolt there to bowl at
Speaker 5: you with a new ball. Come on, pitch it full
Speaker 5: to me, keep it up to me, swing it at me,
Speaker 5: give me some practice. This is part of your surely
Speaker 5: part of your preparation. And you shouldn't be caught by
Speaker 5: surprise trying to hit it into the ocean. You shouldn't
Speaker 5: be caught trying to go too wide with it. It
Speaker 5: just goes down past mid d if anything, or straight
Speaker 5: back at the bowl, so you use the full width
Speaker 5: of your bat. That's pretty basic, isn't it. We want
Speaker 5: someone like fin Allen to bat between twenty four and
Speaker 5: thirty balls. That's all we want from your Finn, not
Speaker 5: one ball. That's very important start to our game.
Speaker 4: Well, Luke Ronky said in something that I saw on
Speaker 4: Instagram before the game, we have to understand our plans
Speaker 4: and their wicket taking balls and the skills they have,
Speaker 4: and we have to back our own style and making
Speaker 4: sure we go out with the full belief and how
Speaker 4: we want to play as a New Zealand cricket team. Well,
Speaker 4: you can try and decipher that, but the point is
Speaker 4: if we have to understand our plans and their wicket
Speaker 4: taking balls. I thought Allan showed an absolute failure to
Speaker 4: understand that. And like you, Jerry, I agree it wasn't
Speaker 4: moving around viciously. But for some of these players, they're
Speaker 4: so used to playing where the ball doesn't move in
Speaker 4: it's so flat and they've got to make adjustments when
Speaker 4: the ball moves around. And that's a test of how
Speaker 4: these guys will go. Now they've got the West Indies
Speaker 4: on Wednesday and they're potentially out of the tournament unless
Speaker 4: they can change things. One of the things I would do,
Speaker 4: I would drop Allen. I'd get revengerin he should have
Speaker 4: played Yester. That wouldn't It wouldn't have made the difference
Speaker 4: between the two teams. But I just think about dropping
Speaker 4: Allen and saying it's just not good enough. And this
Speaker 4: is the message when you need to send You dropped
Speaker 4: a simple catch, you played a terrible shot and you
Speaker 4: contributed nothing, and you've gone will they do that, probably not.
Speaker 2: He's been injured and as recovering from injury, so you
Speaker 2: know that's another person who hasn't been playing a lot
Speaker 2: of cricket, as was the case with a lot of
Speaker 2: these people. The point you make is, yeah, it is
Speaker 2: the West Indies and tournament over. If you don't, wouldn't
Speaker 2: that game? But how do you get it right? Apparently
Speaker 2: the team meeting after the game was one of hard talking.
Speaker 2: That was the words of Luke Ronky. We had long,
Speaker 2: hard discussions. But how do you change it in a
Speaker 2: short space of time.
Speaker 4: Very hard to when you come in with nothing behind you.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. And I think you know the West
Speaker 4: Indies will be licking their lips about playing the side.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think one of the things well, I
Speaker 4: think one of the things you got to think about
Speaker 4: it is do you send a signal that we expect
Speaker 4: more from our plans so you say to Allen you
Speaker 4: can stand down for this match. That's something I would
Speaker 4: certainly think about mentally. How do you do it? I
Speaker 4: think it's very hard. When you watched the comboy at
Speaker 4: the top of the innings and Williamson and Mitchell all
Speaker 4: scratching around seemingly unable when the ball was moving around,
Speaker 4: just to get bat on ball and to push it.
Speaker 4: But I in the gaps and look for ones and
Speaker 4: twos and so on. I think they've got to go
Speaker 4: back to a really basic and simple structure. I think
Speaker 4: if the ball's moving around, you've got to encourage the
Speaker 4: balls to pitch the ball up. Obviously, they have to
Speaker 4: do a lot of work on their fielding, and the batsmen,
Speaker 4: you know, had to stop going. I think for these,
Speaker 4: you know, the all or nothing shots, I think they've
Speaker 4: got to look to get you know, thirty forty fifty
Speaker 4: in the powerplay, not lose too many like it's at
Speaker 4: the top, and see if they can build on that.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, one of the things is I
Speaker 4: say that we're seeing is the balls moving around. So
Speaker 4: they've got to change the plans.
Speaker 5: Look, when you get into situations where either the pitcher
Speaker 5: is doing a little bit and it's difficult to play
Speaker 5: the big shots, you have to rain your game in
Speaker 5: a little bit. You just cannot keep playing wildly irrespective
Speaker 5: of what's happening in front of you. Now, that can
Speaker 5: be up to the bowler if he's doing it well.
Speaker 5: Before a pictures. So it's drifting or it's dropping or
Speaker 5: whatever it is, or when it hits the surface and
Speaker 5: does something you were just and so you start to
Speaker 5: show your craft as a batsman. Now we have got
Speaker 5: those sorts of players, Ah Williamson, Now we have to
Speaker 5: we have to be smart. We've generally been quite a
Speaker 5: smart side in tournaments. We haven't scored towering number of runs,
Speaker 5: but we've got to a total that is competitive and
Speaker 5: fought away and scrapped away and held our catchers. That's
Speaker 5: the way that New Zealand has has got through to
Speaker 5: the second phase of all these t twenty tournaments so
Speaker 5: far that they've played. We're going to probably miss this one,
Speaker 5: I'm thinking. I mean, I would be thinking. Uganda would
Speaker 5: say to themselves we can beat New Zealand.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 5: That's the way that they played yesterday, New Zealand. So
Speaker 5: look at the thinking yesterday too. Williamson steering a ball
Speaker 5: to slip when presumably he wanted to go to the
Speaker 5: right of slip, but there was a short third manner
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 3: What is the point?
Speaker 5: Where's the value of that shot? It shows no power
Speaker 5: coming from the captain. It was a weird stroke. And
Speaker 5: I think Ian Smith said there's a shot of a
Speaker 5: man who hasn't played any cricket recently, and that's absolutely
Speaker 5: right Chapman. You know, when you're facing rushed car and
Speaker 5: you get one dragged down just a little, he plays
Speaker 5: a big sort of pull and its bold. You've got
Speaker 5: to be playing that and say to yourself, what's the
Speaker 5: risk of rushing khn He is a flat quick and
Speaker 5: he's going to skid on at me. He doesn't turn
Speaker 5: the ball wildly, but he's going to skid on at me.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to play those until I'm not he
Speaker 5: only got four. If he was forty four, yes you
Speaker 5: might play the poll shot, but until you get a
Speaker 5: start because you're a main batsman at number six, especially
Speaker 5: when you're four down for twenty or whatever they were
Speaker 5: four for forty, you know you tuck it away for
Speaker 5: a single. I mean that's brain that's brain power. We've
Speaker 5: lost that we've lost that ability to assess situations in
Speaker 5: a game and how you're playing. Isn't that what cricket's about,
Speaker 5: not just going out and slogging and bashing against a
Speaker 5: good team. You cannot bash your way to one hundred
Speaker 5: and eighty and that's all score. One hundred and eighty
Speaker 5: is a good total we're seeing actually in this tournament
Speaker 5: so far.
Speaker 3: How dored age gives you a chance?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the England Australia game. Australia two hundred, didn't they
Speaker 2: They had two hundred and they had four players in
Speaker 2: the thirties, No one was They scored it a good
Speaker 2: strike rate, but they didn't have the real thrashbash six
Speaker 2: hitters and as many sixes as you could hit. But
Speaker 2: they had thirty nine to thirty. They were the top
Speaker 2: four run scorers. I'm interested in the pitches and what
Speaker 2: assessment we can make from afar of these pitches. They
Speaker 2: are variable, aren't they. You watch the IPL Garth and
Speaker 2: the quality of play to me seems totally different from
Speaker 2: what you've talked about in terms of the IPL to
Speaker 2: this World T twenty.
Speaker 4: There is a difference, isn't there enormous? And I think
Speaker 4: you know it's a much more even contest between bat
Speaker 4: and ball in this T twenty World Cup. You know,
Speaker 4: we talked off air Brian about the scores in the
Speaker 4: IPL this season. You know, there were scores in excessive
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty runs I mean, it's just an
Speaker 4: absolute smug fest the batsman. You know, they know that
Speaker 4: they can just clear their happ and they know exactly
Speaker 4: where the ball is going to be in terms of
Speaker 4: bounce and movement and so on.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I mean Bolt was successful in the IPL in the
Speaker 4: power playoff and with just a little bit of movement
Speaker 4: but in the air, but the movement goes very quickly.
Speaker 4: There's a limited amount of spin because I think you know,
Speaker 4: we're also seeing that the ball is turning quite a lot.
Speaker 4: It's gripping on some of these pitchers, so you saw,
Speaker 4: and it's gripping also off the medium paces and the
Speaker 4: quick bowl is a little bit and sitting up. So
Speaker 4: I've seen batsman having to play different games, and that's
Speaker 4: where I think players like Conway and Williamson look completely
Speaker 4: out of sorts yesterday, you know, pushing hard at the
Speaker 4: ball and getting across the crease a lot. Williamson was
Speaker 4: lucky not to be out there bw early in his
Speaker 4: innings and only made nine. It is you know, I
Speaker 4: think Jerry and I are saying exactly the same thing
Speaker 4: in a different way that you've you have to be
Speaker 4: able to say, look that the scores unless you're playing
Speaker 4: at Bridgeton, which looks like a good pitch in Australia,
Speaker 4: as he says, scored two hundred. But you have to
Speaker 4: be thinking about if you're playing on these pitches and
Speaker 4: they all know at night time it's going to move
Speaker 4: around and going to be a bit different. And New
Speaker 4: Zealand talked about that going into this game, but we
Speaker 4: didn't really see any adjustment as a result of it.
Speaker 4: And the adjustment it's not just the batsman. The bowlers
Speaker 4: have got to pitch the ball up and make the
Speaker 4: most of that movement because there has been a lot
Speaker 4: of scene movement at times as well. And as I say,
Speaker 4: I thought that Henry just bowled too short. So so
Speaker 4: again we just we haven't seen the brains trust converting
Speaker 4: into execution on the field.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: It was very well, very disappointing, but very different conditions
Speaker 7: to the IPL and as Jerry says, players have got
Speaker 7: to learn to adapt and they've got very little time
Speaker 7: to do that.
Speaker 2: The other thing I wanted to talk about was the
Speaker 2: ticket prices. People are refusing to pay two five hundred
Speaker 2: dollars to play to watch India play Pakistan in New York.
Speaker 2: What is wrong with those people? I mean, goodness me,
Speaker 2: those tickets are giveaway, aren't they? Two five hundred dollars?
Speaker 3: Well, for guard they might be.
Speaker 5: He sends Lisa out to Lisa out to work every
Speaker 5: day least she heads off my word so he can
Speaker 5: so he can go and buy his ticket to watch
Speaker 5: Pakistan versus India. But that's right, Wads, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 3: It's the same in Providence.
Speaker 5: You and I watched that first game, didn't We were
Speaker 5: Westerndies were laying and it wasn't very full at all,
Speaker 5: so the home side was playing there. It's on the
Speaker 5: outskirts that Providence is on the outskirts of Georgetown.
Speaker 3: It's about sort of ten k's away.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how easy it is to get access
Speaker 5: there with buses and so on, but certainly the ticket
Speaker 5: price is nine five hundred Guyanese dollars. That's about forty
Speaker 5: five US say seventy three seventy five New Zealand dollars
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 3: So that's expensive.
Speaker 5: And maybe there was a bit of wait and see
Speaker 5: how the Westerndies go as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe that'll pick up if they beat New Zealand. I'm
Speaker 5: not sure, but certainly the money is an issue.
Speaker 3: Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 2: The White Fans have made some significant changes to their
Speaker 2: team and the leadership of the group as they head
Speaker 2: off to England for t twenty and one Day International Series.
Speaker 2: Former Black Cap batting coach Craig McMillan giving up the
Speaker 2: TV mike for another stan At coaching five years after
Speaker 2: he gave up the job as the black Caps batting coach.
Speaker 2: He's going to be batting coach for the White Fans
Speaker 2: and also included in the side as Lauren Down five
Speaker 2: months after she gave birth to her first child, so
Speaker 2: she's back in the New Zealand side and well. From
Speaker 2: Craig mcwillan's point of view, he's delighted to be back
Speaker 2: coaching again for a new challenge.
Speaker 6: Just thrilled to be part of the setup, really excited
Speaker 6: with the schedule that the White Fans have got over
Speaker 6: the next five or six months. So I can't wait
Speaker 6: to get involved and be part of the setup. And
Speaker 6: what I love about the White Fans set up is
Speaker 6: they're also competitive, but they do everything with a smile
Speaker 6: on their face and their laugh. So it's a great environment.
Speaker 6: So that's something that as a player and as a
Speaker 6: coach you do miss at times. And as you mentioned,
Speaker 6: I've had five and a bit years away. I loved
Speaker 6: the commentary because you're still part of the game, you
Speaker 6: see it up close, you see all the action. You
Speaker 6: still have those relationships, but coaching something a bit special
Speaker 6: because you get to forge some special relationships with the
Speaker 6: players and with the management as well. So as I said,
Speaker 6: it's going to be a busy time for the White Fans,
Speaker 6: but an exciting one. There's a number that I do
Speaker 6: know quite well. There's a few others that I don't,
Speaker 6: so I'm getting to know them during these camps that
Speaker 6: we've had and the two to the UK, I'll get
Speaker 6: close to them and build that relationship up. But what
Speaker 6: hasn't surprised me is the talent that's within this White
Speaker 6: Fans side. There's a good mixture of experience. We've got
Speaker 6: some vastly experienced players and we've got some youngsters who
Speaker 6: are finding their feet at the international level. And that's
Speaker 6: always exciting when you've got that balance of the two
Speaker 6: in a setup. So can't wait to get my hands
Speaker 6: dirty start throwing some balls and being part of the group.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of potential and there's a good mix,
Speaker 6: as I said, between experience players who've played a lot
Speaker 6: of international cricket and some others that are just finding
Speaker 6: their feet at the end international level. I look at him,
Speaker 6: is he gay? So we saw against England last season
Speaker 6: showed how good a player she's going to be and
Speaker 6: she's just finding the feet at the international level. And
Speaker 6: sometimes it's really hard when you haven't played a lot
Speaker 6: of domestic cricket and you get thrown into the international scene.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it just takes a little while to find your
Speaker 6: feet and that was great to see as you do
Speaker 6: that last season. So we've got some youngsters who I
Speaker 6: think are going to be superstars and years to come.
Speaker 6: So I guess the onuses on us coaches is to
Speaker 6: upskill then get them performing at that international level as
Speaker 6: quickly as we can and get some consistency. And if
Speaker 6: we do that, then the White Fans are going to
Speaker 6: have a successful summer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they develop on
Speaker 2: that tour of England because it's important in terms of
Speaker 2: the way the White Fans have been going. Bearing in
Speaker 2: mind the home series that they just played against this
Speaker 2: England type. For Lauren Down, she's delighted to be back
Speaker 2: where she always thought she would be after she gave
Speaker 2: birth to her first child.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was always in the back of my mind.
Speaker 9: I knew that one I wanted to be a moment
Speaker 9: and have family, but too that I still wanted to
Speaker 9: give cricket a good crack and I was hoping that
Speaker 9: if everything went well with giving birth and through the pregnancy,
Speaker 9: that I would be able to return.
Speaker 8: And fortunately the comeback has gone pretty well so far.
Speaker 9: It's been tough at times and physically a bit training,
Speaker 9: but it's been really good and it's nice being a
Speaker 9: mom and still being able to play cricket as well. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's been challenging at times. I'm very grateful for sort
Speaker 9: of my support network at home.
Speaker 8: No, my partner.
Speaker 9: I'm very fortunate with him that he can stay at
Speaker 9: home and help look after Ruby while I'm training, and
Speaker 9: it makes this whole.
Speaker 8: Journey a whole lot easier.
Speaker 9: It's certainly been yet there's been some sleepless nights and
Speaker 9: then getting up and trying to do a little bit
Speaker 9: of training, which is a little bit harder than normal,
Speaker 9: but when you come home at the end of the
Speaker 9: day and see a little smiling.
Speaker 8: Face, it all feels worth it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been yeah, tough, as I say, physically as well.
Speaker 9: Obviously your body goes through a whole lot of change
Speaker 9: through the pregnancy and then slowly trying to work back
Speaker 9: into things and get back to sort of the fitness
Speaker 9: I was at beforehand. It's been a bit tough being
Speaker 9: at the bottom of the pack and the running sessions
Speaker 9: with the White Firm, but I know I'll get back
Speaker 9: there and it's been nice just to be back with
Speaker 9: the group band training again. I think time away from
Speaker 9: the game was actually quite nice. It was refreshing, and
Speaker 9: then it just sort of made me kind of hungry
Speaker 9: to get back and just want to get back into
Speaker 9: the folders as soon as I could. And I knew
Speaker 9: it was going to be tight in terms of time
Speaker 9: frames getting back for this England series, but I just
Speaker 9: wanted to give myself the best chance that I could
Speaker 9: to put my hand up.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, I'm yea able to get on the plane next week.
Speaker 2: Lauren down back as a White fan for the England tour.
Speaker 2: That's it for the sedition of On the front Foot
Speaker 2: more matches in the World T twenty, including New Zealand's
Speaker 2: next match against the West Indies in Trinidad. So hopefully
Speaker 2: the ticket prices can be sorted out for the match
Speaker 2: between New Zealand and the West Indies and Trinidad. I'm
Speaker 2: sure the locals would want to go along there and see.
Speaker 2: If New Zealand don't win that game, then it's Uganda
Speaker 2: Papu New Guinea and then the departure lounge home to
Speaker 2: New Zealand because there'll be no more play. Thanks very
Speaker 2: much guys for analyzing the first game for New Zealand.
Speaker 2: We'll do it after the West Indies game. Garth for you, Jeremy,
Speaker 2: You two chez wats.
Speaker 3: No problem at all.
Speaker 5: Shame we've got that first start, but let's hope we're better.
Speaker 4: Thanks once, Thanks guys, you and so let's be everything
Speaker 4: for bright us up on Wednesday.
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