1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Well that ends AI report yesterday was more bad news. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Does it mean we get a fifty off today or 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: are we still going with twenty five points? It's ocyr day. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Sharon's on the A and Z Chief economist Sharon, good morning, 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Good morning. What do you I know, what you think 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: they should do, but what do you reckon they'll do. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're plumping for a twenty five point cut, but 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: it is looking like a close run thing. It wouldn't 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: be difficult to just fire a larger cut, But at 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: the end of the day, we think, when it's so uncertain, 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: probably go with strategy. And the fact is the rate 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: to come down a long way. We're just heading to 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: the spring period for the housing market. The next six 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: weeks of data are going to tell you a lot 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: about what the rebound looks like. And we think a 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: twenty five point cut while signaling that you're absolutely ready 17 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: to do what's needed. You've got another meeting in just 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: six weeks. That kind of leaves the most options open. 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: So that's really why we're plumping for twenty five rather 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: than having a strong view about the economics of it, 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: because yeah, the data has been a little bit rubbish. 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: We had obviously that week data for the GENP in 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: the second quarter of the year, that can be very volatile. 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: It can also be revised hugely. But then we had 25 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: the quarterly Survey Business Opinion yesterday, which is only one 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: indicator for how the economy has gone in the next 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: three months, but it wasn't a particularly good one. 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: Sharing. Isn't this part of the problem that we keep saying, Oh, 29 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: there's another meeting in six weeks, we'll just wait for 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: more data, wait for more data, and you missed the boat. 31 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: That's always the risk. You can never eliminate the trade 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: off between exactly that risk of being too slow and 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: then the risk of overshooting or flip flopping and causing 34 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: unnecessary volatility. Those two risks are ever present. But the 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: fact is, you know, the ocr is a lot closer 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: to its bottom than its top. It's come all the 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: way down from five and a half and an August 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: was that that was forecasting at two and a half 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: it would be the bottom. Maybe it'll be two and 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: a quarter, could even be two. But anyway, the point 41 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: is we're nearly there. So the driving instructors stay, you 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: should put your foot down, just as your approach for turn. 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: So I guess our assumption is that at risk of 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: other flip flop and overshooting will be higher in the 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: minds of the committee than the risk of being too 46 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: slow at this point of the cycle. But really, it 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't be difficult for them to justify share remove Sharon, 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: they were forecasting it to get to two and a 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: half anyway. 50 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: They were now very quickly because we've got to go. 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: But I just wanted for people listening to this, We've 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: got a mortgage. If we go fifty instead of twenty 53 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: five today, what does that actually change for me? Or 54 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: of these numbers already been priced in. 55 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: A lot is priced in, but the fifty is not 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: fully priced. So the market's also a bit on the fence, 57 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: so you'd expect to see the oven. Well, the other 58 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: night rate will certainly drop more the one year rate. 59 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: That will depends very much on how the Reserve Bank. 60 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: It's see what the words they use them, how the 61 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: market interprets that. Really, I think the Reserve Bank's aim 62 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: will be to not cause too much of a splash, 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: but that'll be difficult when everyone's got next expectations. 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Sharon'solm A and Z appreciate your time, Thanks so much 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: for it. 66 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: More from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, 68 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio