1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Barry Sopa, our senior political correspondent, raps a political week 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: that was for us. Welcome back, Barry, thank you, nice 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: to talk to you again. Here. Look, okay, set aside 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: how we feel about what happened in politics yesterday. It 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: is difficult I understand that. Set aside how we feel 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: about it. Let's talk about the impact of this. Right, 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: this is good for the Mary Party, isn't it? All 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: that carry on? That's good for them. 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Well, it depends on whether people that vote for the 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Maori Party like to see that sort of ban. 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Yes they do, Yes, they do, because if they don't 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: say no Barry, because okay, so let's say this is 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: really crude. But let's say you are somebody who cares 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: deeply about Mary issues. You've got three different parties on 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: the left to vote for if you're not voting for 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: somebody on the right. Right, So you've got Labor, You've 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: got the Greens because they're all swimming in the same space, 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: and you've got the Marty Party. The Mary Party's point 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: of difference is that they are radical, outspoken, rude, act 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: up like the performance. The performance aspect is what has 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: driven them to this point. That's what their voters want. 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: They just keep growing. 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: The thing that concerns me is that, you know, like 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: I said earlier, that this certainly stands the possibility of 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: becoming worse, and because we've got sex masters now of 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: Select Committee hearings. But the Maori Party would do well 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: to reflect on how they do behave in the debating 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: chamber because the Speaker's patience has obviously been tested to 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: the limit now and I just hope that they are 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: dealt to in some significant way rather than being slapped 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: on the wrists with a wet bus ticket. Because when 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: you look at the wider Mildi Party, I mean the 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Maori Party is there simply because there's seven Moldy seats. 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: Some would say they're racist seats anyway, they shouldn't be 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: there for Maori in particular. 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Why not have Well, they're an anacronism and unnecessary right 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: now they are well, you. 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Know, John Key talked about doing away with them and 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: then used the Maori Party as an insurance policy when 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: he formulated his first MMP government. So the Maori Party 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: then were quite happy that they were there to stay. 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: But you know, the more they test Parliament like this, 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: I think the less likely Parliament's patience is going to 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: be with the wider Parliament. The Labor Party is playing 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: a very dangerous game here, I think, because that display 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: yesterday was nothing short of disgraceful and if the Labor 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Party who also joined it on the Huka along with 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: the Greens, the Labor Party have got to reflect on 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: that because if it wants to get into. 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Government, he doesn't want to be. 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, they may well have to, I would think, certainly 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: have to New Zealand. 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: New Zealand Middle News like your Farmer ENTI happy hopeul 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: go blue or red is not going to go red 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: if if you know, if the Red team is in 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: with the Marty Party right, the stuff's too offensive today. 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: So they may be basically cocking their own goose. 58 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally be careful about that. So, I mean, if 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: it's been like this this week before the Heko arrives, 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: what's it going to be like when the heck is there. 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: Well, to me, I'm quite concerned about what's going to 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: happen at Parliament on Tuesday because it'll be the last 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: time that Gang members, for example, are going to be 64 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: able to display their patches and so I would imagine 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: they'll be out all mass at Parliament. 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Aren't You're going to be at Parliament for a nice 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: little cocktail function with a whole lot of a whole 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: lot of benighted people. 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: Well, yes, it'll be interesting to see how that's going 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: to come off, because you'll have the screaming outside the 71 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: bee hive and side people clinking cocktail glasses. So I 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: don't know how that's going to go down, but at 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: least I'll be there on the ground to have a 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: look and see what happens. But it does concern me. 75 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: We've seen the violence at Parliament when Trevor Mallard provoked 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: protesters in the anti the mandate anti mandate issue during 77 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: the COVID thing, So worries me that. 78 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Do you think it would go down if Jerry turned 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: on the sprinklers. 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: I don't think Jerry is that unwise. You know, he's 81 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: had a hell of a week. You know, when you 82 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: consider he banned a journalist, he suddenly reversed that decision, 83 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: and then he had to put up with his rabbel 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: in Parliament yesterday. I mean, it's not been a good 85 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: week for Jerry. Not that he could have done anything. 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: I think about what happened in Parliament yesterday and then 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: stand there because there's no point in trying to yell 88 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: over the top of these yahoos, because you know you 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't be heard. And I think he did the right 90 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: thing wait for the harker to finish because the public 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: galleries were still going, but at least he could be 92 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: heard before he suspended parliament and walked out in I 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: think discussed. 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: Barry this and thank you very much, really appreciate that. 95 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: That's Barry Soper, senior political political correspondent, rapping the political 96 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: week that was for us. 97 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio