1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: So good news for local companies. As the government changes 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: the rules around procurement for government contracts, the wider benefit 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: to New Zealand well now need to be considered as 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: opposed to the cheapest quote seventy one rules you currently 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: have that drops to forty seven for smaller projects. If 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: you are local and can deliver, you should get the 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Work Building Industry Federation Boss Julian Lasers with US Julian, 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: morning to you. 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. You like it absolutely. I think you 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: know this is going to help economic growth and deliver 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: economous value rather than focusing on prescriptive criteria. So I 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: think we're going to see better deals, more work for 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: local companies and moving away from a compliance from procurement 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: to outcome driven decisions that really is going to prioritize 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: and Culand's economic health. So it's a great move. 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Good the seventy one rules down to forty seven? Are 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: they obvious ones that really didn't need to be there? 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: In other words, is the government taking the right room 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: to the right place. 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, look absolutely, you know it still leads forty seven. 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: We're not throwing out the baby with the bath order. 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: We're streamlinering forfurement hasn't been opated since twenty nineteen, so 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: it's about time. Some of these rules really are prescriptive. 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: You know, companies don't need to worry about requirement to 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: buy evs or buy office materials that are you know, 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: low wasaste necessarily they need to focus on. 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Now just explain Do explain that because most people won't 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. So part of the CUMIT process, 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: you go, I want to build this building, and they go, right, 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: how many evs you got? How many carbon neutral chairs 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: have you got? Et cetera. That's the sort of nonsense 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: you have to fill out. 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, there's a lot of red tape, and there 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: are these requirements that they are meant to put down 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: as part of their tent or their bids. But those 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: are things that really create a burden. And as I say, 37 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: don't sort of really focus on those important things that 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: those companies have the sort of odd of value of 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: things that they should be delivering for construction, not those 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: other things sort of achieve why aims around sustainability, for example. 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: Right, what does worry me slightly building new non residential 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: government buildings to a five star standard? They no longer 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: have to be five star. What's wrong with five star? 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think I think they're just saying look, 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: rather than you know, they still have to meet the code, 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: they still have to meet all the obvious criteria that 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: we already have for you know, a very high quality 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: built environment. But going to the nth degree to have 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: a five star rating probably is unnecessary. It's like what 50 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: they're looking at with the H one. It's let's let's 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: deliver what we need as part of our code and 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: to have safe, you know, quality warm homes, but we 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: don't need to go overboard. 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Okay, good stuff, Julian, appreciate your insight very much. Julian 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: lais who's with the Building Industry Federation. He's the boss there. 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 57 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.