1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store us 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Dogs'd be. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: Good morning at a six after five. Welcome to your 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. I'll lead interview this morning before six how 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: much the abuse compo package could cost the taxpayer. Also 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: this morning we're looking at should political parties get taxpayer 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: cash for TV ads at election time? Guess who says 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: yes and guess who says no. We're also looking at 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: a Germany they're finally getting an election date. It looks 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: like also house price profits, who's making them and how much. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: The agenda. 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the thirteenth of November. Thirty five people 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: have died in China. Forty three have been injured. A 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: guy was upset about his divorce settlement drove his car 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: into a crowd at a sports center. Now senses are 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: busy sweeping this from the internet, and this BBC reporter 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: copped it at the scene. 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: It has happened, unfortunately in China. 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Before there are these copycat mass attack and then we 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: have this type of thing of the government trying to 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: stop it from happening. 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: Woman. 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: It's on woman, and that was the end of his 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: live cross speaking of coppying it cop this. The president 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: of Azerbaijan, which is hosting the climate change conference we 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: spoke about yesterday, raked everyone up by defending the oil 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: and gas industry in front of all the environmentalists and 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: the world leaders listening. 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: Fake news media of the country which is number one 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: oil and gas producer in the world and produces thirty 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: times more Oiljan call us. 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: That's with Steep. He said, it's God's gift to them. 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: Why shouldn't they get it out of the ground there 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: the twenty four biggest oil producer in the world. He's 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: got a point, doesn't he. Why should the Aussies get 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: to extract iron ore the Nordic States their minerals, and 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: not Azerbaijan and the oil and gas if there's demand, 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Prepare for major congestion across our biggest city this morning. 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Two lanes of the Harbor Bridge will close. Public transport 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: will be affected, a warning to delay travel. It's especially 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: worrying for those who've got NCA exams. I'll tell you 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: exactly what I think about this. Just before the news 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: at five point thirty this morning. The race for the 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: US House of Reps is still ongoing. It's still looking 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: likely Republicans will take control. They've got two hundred and 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: fourteen if the two hundred and eighteen majority needed, with 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: Democrats slightly behind on two hundred and five seats. More 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: than a dozen races still to be called, but the 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: majority will be slim here and it could cause problems 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: for Trump. More on that shortly. 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day in 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: early edition with Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: beds and a playing store New Dog Zivvy. 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: Core Logic's Pain and Gain report out this morning. Vendor 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: is not exactly creaming. It not like the good old 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: days during COVID when everyone was just making noodles of money. 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: So this is the numbers comparing quarter three to quarter 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: two on paper profit. Quarter three you had ninety point 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: two percent of properties being sold for more than their 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: original purchase price on on paper profit ninety point two percent. 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Quarter two it was ninety one point eight percent. So 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: slightly fewer properties are making it on paper profit, and 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: that means that actually most are making a profit, although 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: it's at it's lowest percentage since twenty fifteen. And you 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: must remember that though the prices have dropped in the 68 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: past couple of years, as that we've come off the 69 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: highs of post COVID. Most people own a home for 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: eight to nine years and that means that they bought 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: it pre COVID, which means the prices were lower then, 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: which means the prices are still higher now. That's why 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: such a large proportion is still making a profit. What 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to have done is border house obviously 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: at the peak of the market during COVID and then 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: having to sell it now, although normally people are buying 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: and selling into the same market anyway. So there you go. 78 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: Those are the new numbers out this morning. Also this 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: morning Wellington Airport Wellington Council faulty towers. What on Earth? 80 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: I saw this headline and I thought they can't be 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: for real, They can't be serious. Wellington Airport sale still possible, 82 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: according according to the council's chest financial officer, Wellington City 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: Council's Chief Financial Officer Andrea Reeves. This is from Aharon 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Zed says it's important to note that both the sale 85 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: and partial sale of Wellington Airport are still on the table. 86 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: Council's new Crown Observer, Lindsay McKenzie, starts work on Wednesday. God, 87 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: he's got his work cut out from isn't there eleven 88 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: after five Brian brid I don't know. Good luck Wellington. Hey, 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the traffic in Auckland a little later on. 90 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 2: That's just before the news at five point thirty. Also Germany, 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 2: we've been following this in the last couple of days. 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: We finally have a date for their snap election. Do 93 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: you call it a snap election if it's in late February? 94 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't sound that snappy, does it. It's only November anyway. 95 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: This is because ol F Schultz fired as minister. He 96 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: was in a three way coalition. That meant the coalition 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: collapsed because that minister was from another party. He's basically 98 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: it was over a big budget hole. So he's basically 99 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: in the Schiser because his poll numbers aren't that great. 100 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: But he wants to run again and his party supports 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: him to run again, so that'll be happening, they say. 102 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: In February twelve minutes after five, we debate the taxpayer 103 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: funding of election ads. 104 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Next on your radio, and online on iHeartRadio earlier it 105 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: Isahay with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: beds and a playing store news talks. 107 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: That'd be fourteen after five. So Justin Welby, who's the 108 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: Archbishop of Canterbury, has resigned overnight. If you're just joining 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: us this morning, Justin Welby's resigned, you would have heard 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: this in the news. The last couple of days has 111 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: been pressure mounting. There was a Christian summer camp decades ago. 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: There was a volunteer that abused some young people and 113 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: Justin Welby as head. Basically the Church of England failed 114 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: to properly investigate it, and as did his predecessors. The 115 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: bigger problem for the church now is actually their attendance. 116 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Attendance at the Church of England that the Anglicans is 117 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: down a fifth in Britain alone since twenty nineteen. Their 118 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: followers in America and Africa have been upset because there's 119 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: a round between the progressive side of the church and 120 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: the more conservative side. You know, do you allow women clerics? 121 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: That kind of thing? Hard to run a conservative church 122 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: in the modern age. I would have thought anyway that 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: you go the Archbishop of Canterbury has resigned overnight. It's 124 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: called a past five spray and bridge. The row brewing 125 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: this morning over taxpayer funding for political party campaign ads 126 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: like this gem from twenty seventeen. We can do. 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 5: Better, better healthcare, better schools, better. 128 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: Transport, cleaner rivers and homes for all. I am ready, 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: We're all ready. Let's do this. The ACT Party is 130 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: calling for an end to the broadcast allocation for election campaigns. 131 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: Acting P Todd Stevenson suggested to the Justice Select Committee 132 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: that this be scrapped. Labor and the Greens oppose it. 133 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Todd is with us this morning. 134 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning, fine, thanks for having me on. 135 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: No worries. So this is what four million dollars every 136 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: three years? Is it a waste of money? 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely right, Look it's a total rought. I mean, the 138 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 4: taxpayer does not need to be forking out, you know, 139 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: just over four million dollars every year for political parties 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: to pay for their TV and radio ads. 141 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: So is it a principal thing for you? You don't 142 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: think that this is the type of thing we should 143 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: be forking out for as taxpayers. 144 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? 145 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Well it's two things. Ryan. It's definitely a principal thing, 146 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: it should never have been put in place. It was 147 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: put in place for the first MMP election. But the 148 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: other thing is technology has moved on, and so political 149 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: parties are able to spend as much money as they 150 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: want on say digital advertising, so the Internet actually are 151 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: streaming services, et cetera. But you're only allowed to pay 152 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: the money that the taxpayer gives you on TV and 153 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: radio broadcasts. And so it's really too it's principled, we 154 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: just shouldn't be doing it. But secondly it's also just 155 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: hasn't moved with the times. 156 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: How much of the taxpayer funding did that use last election? 157 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: Yep, we got just over three hundred and fifty thousand 158 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: dollars Ryan, And again we took that because it's only 159 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: on TV and radio. 160 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: But you said it was a principal thing. 161 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: Yes, but again we would be restricted, so we can't 162 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: spend their own money, which ACTS always wanted to do, Ryan, 163 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: So before it was actually introduced before the first MMP 164 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: election to stop ACT spending its own money on TV 165 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 4: and radio. And so if we didn't use our allocation, 166 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 4: there's no way we could be on Yeah, but the 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 4: running ads or TV TV stations. 168 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: But surely for a party about smaller government, lower taxes, 169 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: cutting wasteful spending, you'd take the hit for what you 170 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: call your principles. 171 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: Well, we don't think that would be fair because if 172 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: we couldn't actually get over any right, Well. 173 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 7: Let's talk about fairness then, is it is it fear 174 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 7: that a party like the Labor Party who doesn't get 175 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 7: as much in fact, only got as much as many 176 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 7: donations in terms of valuers act? Is it fear that 177 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 7: a party like that wouldn't have the same opportunities you 178 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 7: guys would to to you know, buy broadcast allocations because 179 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 7: they don't get as much donations. 180 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, that would be fair. I mean that's the 181 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: whole point of a political party. You put out a 182 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: set of policies, a set of ideas, and you ask 183 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: people to support them in One of the ways they 184 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: do that is make donations. It's entirely, it's entirely the 185 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: way the political process goes in as parton yet. 186 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: I know it is, But is it fair? Is it 187 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: fair if you have a small number of wealthy donors 188 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: to one particular party versus a large number of perhaps 189 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: lower income donors to another. I mean it's it's David 190 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: and Goliath, isn't it. 191 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's different parties will have different types 192 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: of supporters. I mean, I know for a fact, ACT 193 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: got lots of small donations from lots of people. 194 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've also got a million dollars. You also 195 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: got a million dollars in one day and fifty and 196 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars allocations from billionaires and stuff. 197 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Well. 198 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, but that's all all disclosed, is all properly done, 199 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: And I think that shows the level of support some 200 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: of the policies that that's cooked up. I mean that's 201 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: I think that's entirely the point. Right parties have to 202 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: go out and they have to get supporters who support 203 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: their visions for New Zealand parties. I agree with you that 204 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: they want to put place. 205 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: I agree with that, but surely you want to fear fight. 206 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: Well, this is actually making sure it is a sea fight. 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: I mean last election, Labour got one point two million 208 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: dollars to spend on TV and radio. So we want 209 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: to we want to level the playing field in this area. 210 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: And so well, lot parties raise money, they can spend 211 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: it on what they what they want, including TV and radio. 212 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: If they choose to. All Right, Todd, look forward to 213 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: having this debate with Labor and the Greens if they'll 214 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: come on with me. Thanks so much for your time. 215 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Todd Stevenson, the Act Party MP says, 216 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: let's get rid of the taxpayer funded wrought. That is 217 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: the broadcast allocation. What do you reckon? Nine two? Nine 218 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: two is the number to text? 219 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day is 220 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: furniture beds and a playing store. 222 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: News talks, Hi'd be twenty two after five year on 223 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: news talks, heai'd be Lots happening around the world overnight. 224 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: Environmentalists are sad and upsets. This has nothing to do 225 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: with cop by the Way, which is happening in Azerbaijan. 226 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: This is in Holland. So tears outside of Dutch court. 227 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: Why Well, the court had ruled in favor of environmentalists 228 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: who were trying to get Shell to cut its carbon 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: emissions by forty five percent. And can imagine for a 230 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: company like Shell that's not exactly great for the bottom line? 231 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 2: Is that? So anyway, they appealed. So the court has 232 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: now ordered reversed its decision and said no, actually you 233 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: don't have to cut your emissions by forty five percent, 234 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: So they've overturned the original landmark case. So that's why 235 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: the environmentalists are crying outside court because they wanted Shell 236 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: to be able to And the problem here really is 237 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: how can you single out one particular company for a 238 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: global issue. And this was the point that Shell made 239 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: in court, which the judge clearly agreed with. How can 240 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: you say climate change and just you Fonterra in New 241 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: Zealand must have your profits and just you Shell in 242 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: Holland must have your profits. It doesn't It's not fair, 243 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: is that you can't do it like that? Nineteen ninety 244 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: two is the number to text. Lots of your feedback 245 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: coming in On the issue of campaign donations, Sorry I 246 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: should say broadcast allocation for political parties during the campaign. 247 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second. But have you 248 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: listened to this Trump voter previously a voter for the Democrats, 249 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: lifelong voter for the Democrats. Mother voted for the Dems, 250 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: and now she's gone Trump. She owns a small business. 251 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: Have a listen. 252 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 8: Inflation is down by more than half, interest rates are falling, 253 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 8: Mortgage rates are falling, wages are going up. 254 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: Are you not feeling that? 255 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 8: I don't feel it. No, I don't feel it. I 256 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 8: don't feel it at all. Everybody I talked to it 257 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 8: and nobody's wages went up. But we had four years 258 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 8: of this, I mean four years gas was super high. Yes, 259 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 8: it just went down now, but what the past four 260 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 8: three and a half years it was up. 261 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it, because the media has looked at 262 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: the numbers and gone, well, you know, you look at 263 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: that and you say things are improving. Then the headline 264 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: numbers are coming down, but on the ground there's a 265 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: leg people don't feel it. And I think the same 266 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: thing is true in New right now. You know our 267 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: numbers back in band we're told in terms of inflation, 268 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,119 Speaker 2: all those sorts of things. Are people feeling better off, wealthier? 269 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: Are they running out and the spending? No, not really, 270 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: although we did have a slight uptick in retail spending 271 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: for October. Those numbers out this morning, up thirty nine 272 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: million dollars. That's points six percent, largely driven by hospitality, 273 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: which was up two percent, or twenty four million dollars. 274 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: It is twenty four after five. You're on news Talks 275 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: EB the early. 276 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by NEWSTALKSB. 277 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: You're on News Talks HEB. It is twenty six minutes 278 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: after five. Commuter chaos. It's one of the prices we 279 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: must pay for living in a democracy. I know this 280 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: won't be popular with Aucklanders this morning, or others around 281 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: the country where this hikoy is heading, but it's a 282 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: cost we must be here. They're closing two lanes of 283 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: the Harbor Bridge this morning, and if you've got kids 284 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: getting to an NCA exam, then you will be fuming 285 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: about this. But let's remember this is a one off protest. 286 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: It's not like those dickheads from the Public Rail or 287 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: whatever they were in Wellington, remember them. They repeatedly shut 288 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: down the motorways. They did it time and time again. 289 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: They repeatedly stopped the ambulances from getting to call out, 290 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: the kidney patients from getting to dialysis. They deserved to 291 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: be swept to the curb, and it seems like for 292 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: the most part they have been, which is a good thing. 293 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: This is a one off from a group of people 294 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: who feel rightly or wrongly, that they're getting a hard 295 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: time from this government. They feel they're not being heard 296 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: in our democracy, and whether you agree with that or 297 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: not is besides the point. The point is we live 298 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: in a democracy and the right to protest is well. 299 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: Are aright. It can be an annoying one, but the 300 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: minute you say you can't do it, we all lose. 301 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: If we learn anything through COVID, it's that this whole 302 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: system is rather fragile. When people feel ostracized or maligned, 303 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: we do better to listen rather than suppress and silence 304 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: and dissent. Ran Bridge twenty eight after five year on 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: news Talk said, b just for some specific information for you, 306 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: the two lanes northbound lanes will be closed. We're not 307 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: sure exactly what time that is happening this morning. The 308 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: protesters will split into two groups once they cross the 309 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge. One will go to Himato near Auckland Airport. 310 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: The other will go to Bastian Points. So you can 311 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: expect delays probably across the whole network. As I say, 312 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: the exact time of this, we are unsure at this point. 313 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: Lots of feedback from you on the Allo cation broadcast 314 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: allocation of political parties. The ACT Party wants to scrap it, 315 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: we had them on earlier. Ryan, this is interesting one, right, 316 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: it's amazing listening to that twenty seventeen Labor Party ad 317 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: from de Sinda Adern. She should be convicted for false advertising. 318 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: Hard to argue with that, Ryan, I am an act guy. 319 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: How many of us get tax payer funding to help 320 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: us get a job? That's true. An other here says, though, 321 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: it's not fair if you're a party that has rich 322 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: people backing you that you would have such a huge 323 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: advantage if it was all done on donations. So there 324 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: are a couple of different descenting views on this one. 325 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: It is twenty nine after five News Talk ZIBB. 326 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition 327 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Bits and a playing 328 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Store News TALKSIBB. 329 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty three minutes away 330 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: from six year on News Talk sib Major disruption expected 331 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: across Auckland City this morning. More on that in just 332 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: a second. Gavin Gray out of the UK. The Archbishop 333 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: of Canterbury has quit. Also, Sue Gray meant, you know 334 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: the one who did that reporting to Boris Johnson and 335 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 2: his partying she was given this I wouldn't say plumb job, 336 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: but she was given a booby prize job after being 337 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: sacked by Starma. And now that's not going ahead. He'll 338 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: tell us why. Also, we'll look at that abuse in 339 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: state care, apology and potential compensation. How much might it 340 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: cost us? Back to the Hikoy for a second. I 341 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: just made the point earlier that sorry, we're living in 342 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: democracy and the price you pay for living in a 343 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: democracy is disruption and protest. It's just parf of the course. 344 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: And a number of you have emailed in Ryan if 345 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: these Heikoy idiots, this is from lindsay, if these Heikoy 346 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: idiots have their way, we won't live in a democracy. 347 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: And that is a fair point because some of them 348 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: are calling for, you know, a separate parliament, calling for 349 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 2: a separate justice system, that kind of thing, and I 350 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: think that would be a terrible idea. I don't think 351 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: that works. I think, you know, I agree, one person, 352 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: one vote is the best and fear as system. But 353 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that you should ignore a minority group's cause, 354 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: because what happens when you do that is you just 355 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: tend to make them more radical, even more radical than 356 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: they already are, So I think there is a case 357 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: for listening in a situation like this. Twenty three to. 358 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Six, Bryan Bridge, We're. 359 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: Going to our reporters around the country and we're starting 360 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: in Need this morning with Calum Calum, a virtual reality 361 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: solution for anxiety disorder. 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It's led by the Primary Care 379 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 9: Task for Swaikaha Canterbury and what they've done is they've 380 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 9: tried to bring in medical students where they have brought 381 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 9: in medical students into part time roles in order to 382 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 9: reduce the administrative workload on six different general practices around 383 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 9: the region. Now they've looked over the results and the 384 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 9: chair Kim Burgess, says, look, it's been a win win 385 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 9: for both parties. It's given some students and paid experience, 386 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 9: while gps end up having more time to themselves and 387 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 9: to see more patients. She says, Look, this is not 388 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 9: the magic bullet, but it is a drop in the ocean, 389 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 9: and little drops all add up and help. She does 390 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 9: say that they're going to make it bit more sustainable 391 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 9: than hope to expand this initiative next year. 392 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: All right, and the weather today. 393 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 9: Low cloud and a bit of drizzle possible today, then 394 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 9: find some cloud returns by evening northeasterlies and the high 395 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 9: here is eighteen as well. 396 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 2: Will you amongst those off you know, wasted and vomiting 397 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: in the gutter. 398 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 9: After the country, find any evidence of me wasted or 399 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 9: vomiting after cut day? 400 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: Ryan, Thank you, Wow, how far back do we have 401 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: to go? That's the question Max's and Wellington, Hey, Max, 402 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: good morning? Is the airport for sale? Not for sale? 403 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: What's the go here? Oh? 404 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 10: Well at Wellington's Crown Observer arrives at the City Council 405 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 10: today and with Lindsay McKenzie comes quite a steep bill 406 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 10: one thousand bucks a day to cover his paycheck. Interesting 407 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 10: interview in this very newsroom yesterday with Tory Fano, the mayor. 408 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 10: Her position is, she says it felt like government intervention 409 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 10: in her council always seemed inevitable. She wouldn't have done 410 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 10: anything different to avoid this outcome, and she believes she 411 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 10: does still have control of her counsel and it can 412 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 10: work effectively together. The threshold for a Crown Observer, she believes, 413 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 10: was never met. But clearly something is wrong. Lindsay McKenzie's 414 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 10: first day is today. He'll be monitoring progress, redesigning that 415 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 10: long term plan and with it decisions about the city's future. 416 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 10: And it's a budget essentially, and those decisions will be 417 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 10: accelerated now with a fresh pair of eyes looking over 418 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 10: the shoulders of counselors. 419 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and I see the sea fire, the Council 420 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: has said that, you know, it's not off the table 421 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: that the airport chears might actually be sold in the future. 422 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of water around the bridge. How's 423 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: your weather at mex and the Kettle. 424 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, it should be fine today with light winds. You 425 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 10: can hear how I feel about that. The high twenty one. 426 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you, and you just need It's like you 427 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: have a real estate agent and they put the full 428 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: celle sign up and then they have to take it down, 429 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: and then they have put it up again, and then 430 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: they take it down again. Let's go to Neva and Auckland. Actually, Neva, 431 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: we don't need you. 432 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 11: You have to be talking about why why. 433 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Because we've got Grahame. Grahame has toicked morning Rain just 434 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: a heads up for your listeners heading in now from 435 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: Audioway and the motorway is already backing up in advance 436 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: of this morning. Oh wow, you've got an update for 437 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: us too. 438 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 11: Well, Graham probably knows more than me, as you say, 439 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 11: what what am I doing here? What's my function? But 440 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 11: we do know and obviously for our listeners that it's 441 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 11: they're starting or they're gathering now. As you say, at 442 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 11: the media. This is at the Kamaka Mediah Northcote. They're 443 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 11: leaving there around about seven. They're going to be crossing 444 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 11: that bridge in multiple lots because obviously on that Auckland 445 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 11: Harbor Bridge you can only have two hundred and fifty 446 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 11: so that's why per per wave, so they're coming over 447 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 11: on multiple waves. Now that's happening at about nine to 448 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 11: thirty this morning. They've got the two northbound lanes of 449 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 11: the bridge will be closed. The Stafford Road off ramp, 450 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 11: Currant Street on ramp, Shelley Beach Road southbound north ramp. 451 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 11: That's all going to be shut. And as you say, 452 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 11: you know, then they're going to break off once they 453 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 11: come across that bridge. Then they're going to be in 454 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 11: the buses. I think one lot will be and then 455 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 11: there'll be Ihumato and also best point right, that's yes, but. 456 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: So and I guess people are getting in early now, 457 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 2: aren't they trying to get a cart before it all? 458 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 11: And even as I was coming in this morning at four, 459 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 11: I noticed the traffic was pretty busy and they had 460 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 11: all the eight trucks in anticipation for what's going to happen. Yeah, 461 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 11: and back to me, now, I was just thinking, because 462 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 11: I've got two furniture deliveries arriving at my place. 463 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: You've got your sofa. 464 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 11: My sofa's coming. 465 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, I. 466 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 11: Don't know what time it's going to arrive. 467 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: Though it probably won't. 468 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 11: Won't You'll hear me screaming. You'll hear me screaming if 469 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 11: it doesn't. Because also, and I'll just say this quickly, 470 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 11: we've got cold play tonight. That sofa's going to be 471 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 11: traffic this afternoon, and round that Mount Eaton area is 472 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 11: going to be so today. What do you say? Should 473 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 11: you just stay home? 474 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: You need to play that song? Clicks to you singing it. 475 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: How's the weather cloudy? 476 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 11: Few showers? Hi, twenty two? 477 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 2: All right, neither, thank you? Good luck with your sofa. 478 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: It is seventeen away from six News Talks b All right, 479 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: your morning commute is ready to go. 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Smith City dot co. 498 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: Dot NZ International correspondence with Enzi in assurance peace of 499 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business. 500 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: So I think the sex Gavin Grays at UK Europe Correspondent, 501 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: The Archbishop of Canterbury has fallen on his sword, Gevin. 502 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 6: As after well a lot of criticism and also frankly 503 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 6: some dwindling sport over the last twenty four forty eight hours. 504 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 6: Justin Welby, had really faced huge pressure resign because it 505 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 6: emerged last week following a very lengthy report that he 506 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: didn't follow up really rigorously enough on reports that somebody 507 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 6: who was quite senior within the Church of England or 508 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 6: associated with it was a child abuser and had committed 509 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 6: quote abhorrent abuse of more than one hundred boys and 510 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 6: young men. John Smith was his name. It was a 511 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 6: British barrister. He was abusing boys that he met at 512 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 6: Christian summer camps in the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties. Indeed, 513 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 6: he is round believed to be the most prolific serial 514 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 6: abuser associated with the Church of England. And basically there 515 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 6: was a report out and it quite clearly showed that 516 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: although Justin Welby had looked at that, he had assumed 517 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 6: that when it was sent to the police for investigation 518 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 6: that was kind of the end of the matter and 519 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 6: the end of his responsibility. It wasn't. And now many 520 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 6: people say he quite simply did nothing really about it, 521 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 6: and lots of people believe he should have followed up 522 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 6: that report with much much greater action, much more decisiveness, 523 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 6: And today, as you say, he's fallen on its sword. 524 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: Sue Gray, who did that report into Boris Johnson and 525 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: his partying during COVID, then gets chief staff for Starma, 526 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: then gets basically the boots and given this booby prize 527 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: job of special invoid to nations and regions. We've got 528 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: an update on her this morning. 529 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 6: Yes, which lots of people I sense her enemies will enjoy, 530 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 6: and the news is that she won't actually be taking 531 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 6: up that new appointment. As you say, Sue Gray became 532 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 6: a household name. She led the government's internal inquiry into 533 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 6: the party Gate scandal that was, of course, Boris Jrenson 534 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 6: and associates within the civil service enjoying drinks and parties 535 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 6: when the rest of us were told that we should 536 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: not be socializing anyway. Her inquiry pretty much put paid 537 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: to his premiership and she left the senior civil service. 538 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 6: It then became clear to become a senior advisor to 539 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 6: the leader of the then opposition party that is now 540 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 6: the party of government. She was initially appointed to the 541 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 6: newly created role after departing Sekre Starmer's chiefs of staff 542 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 6: last month. That was her original appointment chief of staff. Apparently, 543 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 6: lots of headlines said that she was getting more money 544 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 6: than lots of people, including the Prime Minister. She resigned 545 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: from that saying she risked becoming a distraction. She was 546 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 6: then given another job, which was effectively to look at 547 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 6: the role of the regions and nations. She didn't attend 548 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 6: the first meeting. We were told she was taking a break, 549 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 6: and now we're being told she's not taking the job 550 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 6: at all. As I said, run there will be lots 551 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 6: of people with a big smile on their face tonight 552 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 6: who think that she rather irresponsible for anyway brought down 553 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 6: the than Prime Minister Boris Johnson. 554 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I can just imagine the smiles on the 555 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: faces of those conservatives. The big question, of course, is 556 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: who is going to take this most important job of 557 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: Special Envoy to Nations and regions. It sounds like the 558 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: type of job you could get a garden nome to do. 559 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, it's ten to six Bryan Bridge, right, 560 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: Who is going to pay and how much will the 561 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: bill be for any redress to those who have survived 562 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: abuse in state care and faith based institutions. If you 563 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: go back to and have a look at the Royal Commission, 564 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: you'll see a couple of numbers banded about. There was 565 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: a lawyer for survivors who said estimated the cost of 566 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: abuse to a survivor over their lifetime at eight hundred 567 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars on average, eight hundred and fifty 568 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: thousand dollars per survivor on average over the course of 569 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: their lifetime. That is a lot of money. And you've 570 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: got two hundred thousand people who have been affected by 571 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: this absolutely horrific abuse, you know, on a scale and 572 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: a range up to an including torture, that is a 573 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: very big bill potentially hundreds of millions or potentially into 574 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: the billions of dollars. Who should pay for that? Should 575 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: it be the taxpayer? Should it be the government, the state? 576 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: Of course in some situations it should be. But what 577 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: about the churches? Who's holding them responsible for their part 578 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: in all of this? 579 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 580 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New 581 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Playing Store. 582 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: News Talks, sedb siven Away from six News Talks said, 583 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: b So Trump, Yes, he has done very well. Yes, 584 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: the Republicans have done very well, taking the White House, 585 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: likely the House, but also the Senate, flipping the Senate, 586 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: but that majority, and at the moment it's two hundred 587 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: and fourteen seats for the Republicans and the House to 588 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: the Democrats two hundred and five are sixteen seats still 589 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: to be called. But it seems like a lot, But 590 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: it's not actually a lot when you take into account 591 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: that at least two of those will go to jobs 592 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: in Trump's administration. You lose a couple to a scandal perhaps, 593 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: and Trump is notorious for cracking the whip. You get 594 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: fighting between them like you had last time, and suddenly 595 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: you're looking at you know, Trump wanting to increase the 596 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: debt ceiling or make cuts, and you've got in fighting 597 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: and then potentially you have no longer have a majority. 598 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: So it's well, it seems like a lot. It can 599 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: be quite fragile that six minutes away from six now, 600 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: and Mike ha said he's on the show next. Hey, Mike, 601 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: good morning, Rideo morning Now. We've been debating a couple 602 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: of things this morning. One is the broadcast allocation for 603 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: political parties. Yes, ACT wants to do away with it. Yes, 604 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that that is necessarily fair. 605 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 12: There's no right answer because We've been grappling with this 606 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 12: for years, haven't we. So you open it up to 607 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 12: the open, Marc, and go just go find whoever you want. 608 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 12: An act or a national party will always win and 609 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 12: win comfortably, which is not fair seemingly so equally though, 610 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 12: if you flip it and go, well, look, the state 611 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 12: gives everybody the same amount of money. I mean, at 612 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 12: what cost and. 613 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: How wendy four million dollars well, exactly. 614 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 12: As four million dollars really the end of the world 615 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 12: given the overall I. 616 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: Mean, how many lunches, how many school lunch it. 617 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 12: Is, but you can always say that, I mean how 618 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 12: much you're paying for the abuse and care as you 619 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 12: were just talking about, how many hundreds of millions. I 620 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 12: will ask because the Prime Ministers on this morning at 621 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 12: some point I don't know whether he will admit it, 622 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 12: but at some point. First of all, you've got a 623 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 12: can of worms. Right where's the end? There is no end. 624 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 12: And this is my great concern because even out of yesterday, 625 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 12: I have no doubt in my mind that yesterday was 626 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 12: done with the best of intentions. Yeah, of course it was, 627 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 12: well no, and not according to half the people were there. 628 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 12: Apparently was a pr stunt. It was shallow, it was 629 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 12: a waste, it was the whole thing. 630 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: You would have got that no matter who was doing 631 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: the apology. 632 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 12: Right, is exactly what I'm saying. So you will get 633 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 12: that when they say we will give you twelve thousand dollars, 634 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 12: eighty thousand dollars, eight hundred thousand dollars, it will never 635 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 12: be enough. It'll never make people happy. There is no win. 636 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 12: So you've got this massive can of worms. But then 637 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 12: the question you got to ask, given our state, it's 638 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 12: got to come down to dollars, doesn't it. No one 639 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 12: wants to say that, but it does come down to dollars. 640 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 12: We don't have any money, we have less than no money. 641 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 12: And you're also setting a dreadful precedent economically speaking, so 642 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 12: you know, once you've paid. 643 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: Next somethings, some things are more important, too important not 644 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: to do. And if you have well, if you have 645 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: been tortured in the state care and you're a child, 646 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: undred percent, you deserve some compensation. But what how much? 647 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 2: Well that's the questions, right, and you listen to what 648 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: Labour said. Chriss Sippin said yesterday. He said, basically, you 649 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: can borrow up the wazoo and we won't stop yet. 650 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 12: And that's the problem, isn't it. And so anyway, we'll 651 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 12: talk to Chris Luxing about that in other matters, right, 652 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 12: because he didched you this. Yes, here's what I said 653 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 12: yesterday that calls no more than ten minutes and it 654 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 12: didn't arrive at twenty two guarantee, I'm right right, was 655 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 12: late and nothing got covered. 656 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: You reckon you reckon? Has he said yet how long 657 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: the call was? Don't think? 658 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Well? 659 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: All right, Mike's next. Have a great day, everyone, Try 660 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: and avoid the Harbor Bridge if you can. 661 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 7: Goodlad. 662 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: Listen for more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen 663 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: live to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, 664 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.