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Speaker 1: Actly to David Seymour was on a bit of a well,

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Speaker 1: he's on a roll today. The Prime Minister has called

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Speaker 1: his decision to write to police over their investigation, and

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Speaker 1: to Philip Polkinghorn quote ill advised. And just a few

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Speaker 1: hours ago Seymour drove a land drover up the steps

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Speaker 1: of Parliament and security guard had to order him back down.

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Speaker 1: He's with me this evening, David, Good evening, Minister, good evening.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with the polking Horn letter. Why did you

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Speaker 1: send it?

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Speaker 2: Because my job as a local MP is to be

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Speaker 2: a bit like a fallback, the last line of defense

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Speaker 2: for people who live in the Epshom electorate that selected

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Speaker 2: me to represent them. And if I've got a distraught

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Speaker 2: person in my office, someone who's very upset, then I'm

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Speaker 2: going to do my best to help them, as I

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Speaker 2: have for hundreds of not thousands of constituents over the

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Speaker 2: last ten years. It might interest people to know that

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Speaker 2: if you go on the police website, it says one

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Speaker 2: of the things you can do if you feel that

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Speaker 2: you've been unfairly treated by Lease as go and see

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Speaker 2: your local MP, which this man did. I subsequently wrote

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Speaker 2: a letter which details quite a large number of concerns

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Speaker 2: where he felt he had been treated unfairly. I was

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Speaker 2: very careful to write the letter, and I explicitly said

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Speaker 2: I respect the constitutional separation between members of Parliament and police.

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Speaker 2: I did not comment on whether they should or shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be prosecuting or investigating him, only to point out that

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Speaker 2: he was someone that had lost his wife, regardless of

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Speaker 2: what people may think of that, and that he had

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Speaker 2: was in some distress and felt he'd been treated unfairly.

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Speaker 2: And I would do that for anyone, because I think

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Speaker 2: the job of a local MP is very important. There's

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Speaker 2: been some towdry innuendo from Caroline nen Yi, a journalist

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Speaker 2: at The Herald, suggesting that somehow I only would help

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Speaker 2: people if they were owners. I think that's outrageous. I've

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Speaker 2: helped people who are penniless. I've helped people that are

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Speaker 2: on the hard left to publicly criticize me and the

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Speaker 2: ACT Party and hate everything we stand for. But if

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Speaker 2: they live in the electorate, I'll help them. In one example,

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Speaker 2: Bradbury's actually.

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Speaker 1: Did you have your well?

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Speaker 2: First of all, we publish all of our donations that

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Speaker 2: were required to. Second of all, I don't know I

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Speaker 2: didn't know then. I don't know now if he's given

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Speaker 2: a minor amount, but I know that he hasn't given

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Speaker 2: an amount that's de cleared because that's in the public record.

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Speaker 2: If you get to a point where politicians have to

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Speaker 2: explain who every single person that has ever made a

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Speaker 2: donation is, whether are saying yes, all of us saying no,

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Speaker 2: you've introduced a totally different level of trust in our society,

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Speaker 2: and certainly people might start asking journalists if they're on

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Speaker 2: the take for the stories that they write. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that Carolyn Menyi would like that, and I certainly

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Speaker 2: would never suggest it, So I don't think.

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Speaker 1: You kind of just did in a roundabout way.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I tell you what, that's what she would say.

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Speaker 2: But actually, you know, one of the things about the

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Speaker 2: media is you tend to believe it until you've been

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Speaker 2: in a story, and I personally wouldn't believe a story

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Speaker 2: that that journalist wrote.

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Speaker 1: Again, all right, let's go to the tractor. Not the tractor, sorry,

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Speaker 1: that was SHANEA. DuRane, but SHANEA.

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Speaker 2: Dourne.

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Speaker 1: Actually when he drove the tractor up the steps of Parliament,

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Speaker 1: he got in trouble with the police, they charged him.

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Speaker 1: Have the police been in touch with you about the landrover?

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Speaker 2: No, I certainly haven't had anyone in touch with me.

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Speaker 2: But it does show just how crazy our world has got,

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Speaker 2: just for people that may not know. The person that

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Speaker 2: had the land rover is a professor Peyton from Auckland University.

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Speaker 2: He's someone I first came across. Funnily enough, when he

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Speaker 2: moved to the EPSOM electorate. I helped a lot an

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Speaker 2: unrelated matter as a constituency MP and he got on touch.

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Speaker 2: He's doing this fundraising. He's actually doing research at the

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Speaker 2: university to use the skin cells of a baby to

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Speaker 2: grow a heart valve that will be a living heart

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Speaker 2: valve that grows with the baby's heart, so that unlike

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Speaker 2: if they have saved Romance.

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. How did we get from this

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Speaker 1: medical America to you on the steps of Parliament driving

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Speaker 1: a car?

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Speaker 2: Well, the miracle hasn't happened yet. He's trying to raise

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Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars. He's raised about forty eight. I

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Speaker 2: just checked on his website and I've encouraged people, you know,

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Speaker 2: Google Drive for Hearts and I think it's a good

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Speaker 2: cause that people might want to chip in for so

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Speaker 2: his plan was to re enact something that happened eighty

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Speaker 2: years ago was the first land rover imported to New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: and to demonstrate its ability and power as a vehicle,

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Speaker 2: they drove it up the steps of Parliament. If you

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Speaker 2: are to see how mad the world has got. I'm

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Speaker 2: now getting interviewed on multiple media channels about doing this.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the people from nineteen forty eight were around.

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Speaker 2: They'd be astonished that I got to talk on the

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Speaker 2: wireless for doing this rather mundane act.

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Speaker 1: David Seymour, thank you very much for your time, the

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Speaker 1: Act party leader and a government minister. I suppose, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't really give a toss whether he drives are

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Speaker 1: trackedor up there, whether he drives or land rover up there,

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Speaker 1: whether he drives a skateboard up the steps of Parliament.

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Speaker 1: My only concern is if it was any Joe Bloggs

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Speaker 1: who did it, you know, during the Treaty protest or

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Speaker 1: during the COVID protest, would they have been treated differently?

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