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Speaker 1: They may have read a report commissioned by Radio New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Radio New Zealand to look into why their operations

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Speaker 1: become such a dumpster fire. So it said a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff that was obvious. I thought, anyway, one thing

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Speaker 1: that surprised and saddened me. Though most people within that

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Speaker 1: organization thought radio was dying, audiences were bailing. This is

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Speaker 1: not true. This is not true. In fact, it's the opposite.

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Speaker 1: Radio is robust and comparatively speaking, thriving. So my question is,

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Speaker 1: how is it you can have a company of people

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Speaker 1: who don't understand their own industry. Where did they get

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Speaker 1: their view from? Why has no one corrected the view?

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Speaker 1: Where's management in this process? Their audience has shrunk, but

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Speaker 1: it hasn't vanished. This is the key to all of

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Speaker 1: this has gone well, it's mainly come here actually, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, the customer is still spending, if you like,

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Speaker 1: They've just changed shops. The fact they don't know that,

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Speaker 1: I would have thought should have set off alarm bells

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. Most ironically, because the place is

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Speaker 1: full of journalists who once upon a time had inquiring minds.

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Speaker 1: They asked questions, they wanted to know things. If you

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Speaker 1: have such a mind, you would have quickly discovered what

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Speaker 1: was actually happening, what the reality of your medium was.

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Speaker 1: How can you be a journalist and be that bewildered,

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Speaker 1: And if you are that bewildered on your own doorstep,

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Speaker 1: how bewildered are you about the rest of life and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world. Also of concern was management's

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Speaker 1: response to the report. The report, by the way, basically

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Speaker 1: says the place is shot. It needs a bomb and

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Speaker 1: some genuine talent. The response suggests what Radio and New

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Speaker 1: Zealand management do is well. What they do quite well

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Speaker 1: is commission reports and ignore them. So the exercise as

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Speaker 1: a whole appears a bit of a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: They got told some obvious stuff they should have known,

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Speaker 1: an alarming thing about their staff that they should have

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Speaker 1: also known. But now they do know they need to

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Speaker 1: fix it. And as for the report itself, all the

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Speaker 1: rest of it seems a little bit tricky for them

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Speaker 1: for me. I mean, look, they can do whatever they like.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. But what I care about is that

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Speaker 1: this industry is actually successful. Some of us are actually

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Speaker 1: having the time of our life. Some of us know

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Speaker 1: what's going on, and understand proceeding. Some of us still

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Speaker 1: ask a few questions. The future is bright and it's

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Speaker 1: there for anyone who wants it. But to want it,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be keen and you've got to be awake,

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Speaker 1: and that might be the biggest problem of all. For

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