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Speaker 2: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, We're going

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Speaker 2: to have a chance at the Lower Hutmere. He's got

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Speaker 2: lots of questions about whether other councils are also in

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Speaker 2: line for government intervention now that Wellington City Council has

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Speaker 2: had one come in. The banking inquiry has started at Parliament.

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Speaker 2: We're going to speak to Stuart Smith, the Finance Select Committee,

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Speaker 2: a Select Committee chair, and also Uber Eats is coming

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Speaker 2: to Regional New Zealand. Is this a good thing for

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Speaker 2: the regions? Monsoon? Poon owner Mike Egan on that together. Dutleslerge,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what based on the criticism that David

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Speaker 2: Seymore's copping at the moment, you think he'd actually failed

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Speaker 2: in his mission to feed kids on a budget, rather

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Speaker 2: than succeeded madly at the thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The latest criticism is from businesses, for example Peter Tippett,

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Speaker 2: who were making lunches for kids in schools who are

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Speaker 2: now upset that they've lost the work that they had.

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Speaker 2: The work's now going to go to a global company

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Speaker 2: called the Compass Group instead, and as a result, the

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Speaker 2: businesses that we're making lunches here in New Zealand are

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Speaker 2: going to lose jobs. Basically, they have to cut jobs

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Speaker 2: because they can't afford to keep the people. Now, I

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Speaker 2: feel for these companies, this is going to be tough.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that a government contract like this one would

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Speaker 2: have dragged a lot of businesses through what has been

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Speaker 2: a very very tough economic downturn, which we're still in.

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Speaker 2: And without the money, I'm sure it's going to be

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Speaker 2: very very hard to make ends meet. And I obviously

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Speaker 2: would rather that the money was being spent with New

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Speaker 2: Zealand businesses than on a global giant like the Compass Group.

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Speaker 2: But center mentality like that can not drive government spending decisions.

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Speaker 2: We cannot pay an average of nine dollars a meal

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Speaker 2: simply because it creates jobs and helps Kiwi businesses out,

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Speaker 2: not when it is possible to feed kids for a

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Speaker 2: third of the price at three dollars a meal. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's the kind of make work mentality that ended up

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Speaker 2: with this country blowing huge amounts of money on a

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Speaker 2: public massive public sector workforce. Back in the eighties it

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Speaker 2: was around about twice what it should have been because

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Speaker 2: we were making jobs for people, keeping people employed. Anyone

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Speaker 2: cutting their budget, any business cutting their budget is brutal,

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Speaker 2: but especially when we're talking about a government cutting budgets

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Speaker 2: back and cutting budgets back this big. But it needs

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Speaker 2: to happen. I do not want to pay more tax

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Speaker 2: than I need to just to subsidize Peter Pit's businesses. Now, actually,

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Speaker 2: what David Seymour has managed to do here, it deserves

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Speaker 2: a huge amount of praise, not the criticism that he's

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Speaker 2: coppying at the moment. He has managed to save one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million dollars a year and deliver the

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Speaker 2: same service. Basically, that's impressive, right, Feeding kids for three

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Speaker 2: dollars a meal is impressive. Now, Obviously the proof of

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Speaker 2: the pudding is going to be in the eating. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's one thing to serve up a few lunches at

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Speaker 2: Parliament on a Tuesday. It's quite another to sustain that

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Speaker 2: across thousands of lunches for months on end and still

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Speaker 2: make sure that the kids are getting portions that are

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Speaker 2: for him. But so far, I all think we ought

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Speaker 2: to be grateful that he's managed to do something that

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Speaker 2: Two is the text number standard text fees apply. The

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Speaker 2: government has announced a funding boosts. Speaking of money for

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Speaker 2: Saint John, it says an agreement has been reached between

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Speaker 2: the ambulance service and the unions, So this is going

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Speaker 2: and Saint john has confirmed there will be no further

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Speaker 2: strike action from its workers, which is good news. The

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Speaker 2: Associate Minister of healthus Casey Costello, Hey Casey, Hi, how

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Speaker 2: are you very well? Thank you? So has this money

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Speaker 3: It sounds like we don't have a direct visibility, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: this has been the trigger that's allowed the unions and

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Speaker 2: So what level of this organization are you now funding?

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Speaker 3: So we're at the figures currently at and there's still

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Speaker 3: you know, we've got a coalition equipment to meet greater

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Speaker 3: portions of HAT twenty Saint John's and your budget. But

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Speaker 3: this is going a long way, and I think the

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Speaker 3: breakdown now is I think they have about eight percent

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Speaker 2: So when are you guys going to get it to

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Speaker 3: This is the negotion that we've got to work through now.

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Speaker 3: It's and it's a really important piece of work, and

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Speaker 3: we completely understand it and it's working understanding what the

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Speaker 3: other commercial ventures. So yeah, we will.

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Speaker 2: We want to keep full funding.

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Speaker 3: The kind of this is where I've had different conversations

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Speaker 3: with the full funding of the operational costs. So that's

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Speaker 3: the frontline costing. I think we have the other factors around,

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Speaker 3: clear about what we're commissing to around that funding model.

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Speaker 2: Okay, alrighty, And so if you were to go to

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Speaker 2: in the coalition agreement, then how much more do you

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Speaker 3: Well, this is where we're looking at what the part

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Speaker 3: waiting to see what that total amount is. Looking at

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Speaker 3: the others they've got, I think we're currently sitting at

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Speaker 3: about ninety one percent. I'm not sure whether those figures

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Speaker 2: This in casey, I see this tobacco business is still

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Speaker 2: dogging you. Do you know whether the AGE has been

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Speaker 2: Age you looking at it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. The story basically was the isaveral rote

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Speaker 3: And I didn't even know she'd written until media sort

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Speaker 3: the fact that she'd written, so ok. But as I've said,

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Speaker 3: I'm welcome if it put it to bed and we

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Casie, thanks for talking us through it

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Speaker 2: to really appreciate that it's case Costello, the Associate Minister

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Speaker 2: of Health. Now listen on this business with the order

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Speaker 2: to General the ag. Labor is the one Ashia Verel

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Speaker 2: is the one who's asked the order to General John Ryan,

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Speaker 2: who I have a lot of respect for, to investigate

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Speaker 2: Casey Costello's decision to cut tax on some of these

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Speaker 2: I think fair enough to look into this now. I mean, personally,

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Speaker 2: let's get a straight I don't care about the tobacco

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Speaker 2: do think that labor raises some very interesting questions here

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Speaker 2: Two of Philip Morris's executives current executives, used to work

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like what Uppy hoo. No, Uppy and Winston

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

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Speaker 2: Darcy water Grave sports talk hosters with me, Hello.

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Speaker 6: Darce, never lit Blizzy Allen?

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Speaker 2: Now, what's what is this? Is there a problem with

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Speaker 2: the pitch? Are they trying to dig the pitch for us?

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Speaker 6: Slip of the tongue there? What happened when England was

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Speaker 6: next four wickets were diabolic. They really didn't take it

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Speaker 6: very well. Yeah, so pun It's only been played on

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Speaker 2: Are you asking me to Indian score?

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Speaker 6: So what they're going to do now is they believe

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Speaker 6: it's going to be low and slow, and it's rolled

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Speaker 6: to load their side up with spinners. But last time,

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Speaker 6: in that very first Test match, the test umpire said, look,

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Speaker 6: awful it was over in three days.

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Speaker 2: How do you Because apparently what they're doing there is

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Speaker 2: they're trying to prepare the pitch so that our fast

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Speaker 2: bowlers don't actually work that well there, how do you

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Speaker 2: do that? What do you do to the pitch?

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Speaker 6: You deedn't it so it doesn't have the same that salary.

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Speaker 2: Come out with that like road rollers or something.

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Speaker 6: Well, they can roll as flat as they want. They

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Speaker 6: can make it more dull for the bounce. The problem

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Speaker 6: here is trying to fight what we've gotten the pace department.

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Speaker 6: Willow Rock, he's extraordinarily tall. Well, that's a home test.

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Speaker 6: That's what happens.

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Speaker 2: You prepare, we do this kind of stuf gold there.

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Speaker 6: What we do is we wait till we get a

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Speaker 6: subcontinental team right in their first test, we send them

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Speaker 6: And I think the new Centlander just sit back. SUPERCLM

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Speaker 6: We've had issues before though with NRL players that have

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Speaker 7: For twenty years around.

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Speaker 6: Cleary has done everything you can in rugby league. There's

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Speaker 2: Oh here's a text for us, get a grip. Poaching

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Speaker 6: But the thing some of them have been really really successful.

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Speaker 2: It's four twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Heather NRL is for simpletons. Five tackles and a code

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Speaker 2: Hunger tackles, code Hagar tackles, No brainer, goodon, no goodon.

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Speaker 2: You are so wildly off the mark. So I have

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Speaker 2: But my friend said to me, she loves sport. She

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Speaker 2: Rugby league is not for simpletons. Rugby league is for

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Speaker 2: They're big problems anyway. Listen for twenty six the banking

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Speaker 2: Tonia Watson. She faced the heat to be fair that

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Speaker 8: Our market does not have little to know a competition.

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Speaker 2: She disagrees with the claim that Kreweibank needs support to

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Speaker 2: To be fair to Antonia, you probably stop counting at

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Speaker 9: Like that?

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Speaker 2: Everything else is just money that you're going to put

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Speaker 2: who is the chair of the Financial elect Committee. These

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Speaker 2: with US ten plus five here. The successful businesses do

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen drive with One New Zealand let's

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Speaker 2: The thing that I've gone Barryspers in US and ten

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Speaker 2: other councils around the country are starting to feel who

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Speaker 2: Is it it's only for today? And really let's be

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Speaker 10: Yeah, one rest day a week, I think is the

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Speaker 2: Rest day, and on the seventh day he rested and

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 2: We we'll talk about this a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: And of course Campbell Berry's with us just after five.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty two away from.

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Speaker 4: It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive so.

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Speaker 2: US Secretary of Saint Anthony Blinkol has made his eleventh

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Speaker 2: meeting with Israeli Prime Minister being Himanett and Yahoo and

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Speaker 12: Much that the death of Sinoar does create an important

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Speaker 2: On Indian Prime Minister Arendramodi. Chinese President of Shijingpeng and

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Speaker 2: a number of other world leaders are attending a summit

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Speaker 2: And finally, an Australian woman got stuck upside down between

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Jan Mitchison, US correspondent with US.

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Speaker 4: Now, Hey, Dan, Hey there, Heather.

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Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, how badly are

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's campaign panicking?

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Speaker 14: I guess it depends on who you ask. I mean,

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Speaker 14: But right now, I think they're pretty confident that over

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Speaker 14: the next couple of weeks, Donald Trump is going to

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Speaker 14: continue to be Donald Trump. And while he's doing that,

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Speaker 14: I think Harris is going to try to pain herself

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Speaker 14: as more presidential and you know, she's going to be

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Speaker 14: having symbolic backgrounds and make sure that she can win

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Speaker 14: each of a handful of swing states that will decide

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Speaker 14: this election, you know, six or seven states, right.

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Speaker 2: So what is she going to be able to do

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Speaker 2: because the problem for her is the margins are so

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Speaker 2: thin that he is likely to beat her on the night.

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Speaker 2: So what's she going to do to widen those margins

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Speaker 2: out in her face?

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Speaker 14: I think she's going to again try to act a

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Speaker 14: little bit more presidential. I think she's going to spend

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Speaker 14: a lot more time in these half dozen or seven or.

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Speaker 4: Eight states or so.

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Speaker 14: And I think that there are a lot of people

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Speaker 14: right now that, like you said, aren't going to believe

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Speaker 14: that this race could still be tied two weeks from tonight.

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Speaker 14: But the battleground states are where the presidency will be won.

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Speaker 14: And I think you're just going to have to be

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Speaker 14: on your a game. And while Trump will be Trump

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Speaker 14: rambling all over the place and unpredictable, which will get

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Speaker 14: him coverage. I think Harris is hoping that she's going

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Speaker 14: to look more the part than Trump's been in the

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Speaker 14: last couple of weeks. So, you know, serving French fries,

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Speaker 14: which was a great photo op at McDonald's, but also

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Speaker 14: got a lot of backlash too, I think for people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again the backlash, I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 2: I repeat myself and it's boring to me. I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: about this is probably boring to you too. But it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter whether the priest is negative or positive. For Trump,

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Speaker 2: it's place right and so if we're talking about him,

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about her.

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Speaker 4: It works for him, No, it does.

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Speaker 14: It seems to do that. The only thing I can

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Speaker 14: say that that's changed in recent months and we mentioned

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Speaker 14: this number of times on your shows that he seems

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Speaker 14: a little bit more tired. I don't think he seems

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Speaker 14: to have the energy that he has moving forward. But

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Speaker 14: he's still getting coverage. It doesn't matter what he does,

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Speaker 14: good or bad, what he says, he still makes the

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Speaker 14: front page of the of the you know the paper.

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Speaker 2: Hy So tell me about the former boss of Abercrombie

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Speaker 2: and Fitch.

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Speaker 14: Oh, can I just tell you there was smoke about

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Speaker 14: a year ago, and you know where there's smoke, there's

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Speaker 14: going to be fire about this too. I mean there

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Speaker 14: was his CEO, Mike Jeffries and a couple of others

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Speaker 14: were arrested today for alleged sex trafficking. And I mean

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Speaker 14: this is an international sex trafficking and prostitution business. They

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Speaker 14: recruited young guys for parties here in the US and

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Speaker 14: other countries, and you know, allegedly paid dozens of men

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Speaker 14: to travel around the world to engage in these acts

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Speaker 14: over the last six, seven, eight years. And they were

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Speaker 14: led to believe these men that they were going to

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Speaker 14: attend these events and they would get modeling opportunities. So

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Speaker 14: last year the company said, you know, we hired it.

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Speaker 14: Now law firm to conduct an independent investigation. They got

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Speaker 14: a report from the BBC. That's when the smoke started

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Speaker 14: going up. It took twelve months, but then it just

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Speaker 14: all blew up today and there was a huge fire.

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Speaker 14: And so these guys are going to be a rain

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Speaker 14: later this week in Friday, I believe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Rudy Giuliani.

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Speaker 14: Oh all right, so we know he was America's mayor, right,

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Speaker 14: So the judge today has said, you've got to turn

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Speaker 14: all over everything. I mean all your valuable possessions, your penthouse, apartment,

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Speaker 14: basically everything he owes to these election workers in Georgia

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Speaker 14: who counted the ballots back after the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 14: and he would have famed and he owes one hundred

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Speaker 14: and fifty million dollars right now. So he's having to

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Speaker 14: give up I mean everything from watches that he was

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Speaker 14: given by European leaders to his home and a sports

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Speaker 14: car that he was given from Lauren.

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Speaker 15: But call and where do you go from here?

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Speaker 3: Heather?

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Speaker 14: I mean, this guy has lost everything to hawk and coffee.

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Speaker 14: But I think this just goes to show you that

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Speaker 14: all these people that have surrounded themselves around Donald Trump

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Speaker 14: seemed to get caught out, but you know, the taflon

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Speaker 14: don just remains kind of as popular as ever with him.

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre. It's bizarre how many people around him fall down. Hey, Dan,

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Speaker 2: thank you was always appreciated.

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Speaker 9: Mate.

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Speaker 2: That's Dan Mitchinson, a US correspondent. Listen yesterday on the program,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about Andrew Bailey, right, Barry and I,

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Speaker 2: and we discussed the fact that Andrew Bailey, he said

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Speaker 2: he hadn't had a drink at the brewery, and he

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Speaker 2: hadn't had a drink at the vineyard, and he better

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Speaker 2: be absolutely sure of that, like he must. It must

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Speaker 2: be true, because otherwise a photo would emerge with him

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Speaker 2: with a drink in the hand, and that'd be a problem. Well,

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Speaker 2: he returned to the house after ten o'clock last night

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Speaker 2: to correct the record.

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Speaker 16: Honorable Andrew Bailey met him speaker.

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Speaker 17: I was asked today had I had any alcohol with sorry,

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Speaker 17: had I had any alcohol.

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Speaker 16: At the bear Gun or the winery I visited that day.

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Speaker 17: I took this to mean whether or not I'd had

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Speaker 17: any alcohol prior to the incident that led to the complaint.

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Speaker 16: Therefore, I correctly answered no.

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Speaker 17: However, for the avoidance of any doubt after the incident

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Speaker 17: and at the end.

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Speaker 16: Of the day I had a small wine tasting.

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Speaker 2: Good thing to correct that and make sure that's absolutely clear.

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Speaker 2: Obviously journos wanted to know more, so they hit him

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Speaker 2: up afterwards and they wanted to know whether he'd returned

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Speaker 2: to speak to the worker, which remember he came back

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Speaker 2: and chatted to the work another couple of times, and

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Speaker 2: they come have a drink a beer?

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Speaker 9: Have I drink?

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Speaker 15: What?

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Speaker 2: They They wanted to know whether that had happened after

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Speaker 2: the wine tasting.

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Speaker 17: I had not had any alcohol, pride to my interactions

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Speaker 17: with the individuals.

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Speaker 2: So when did you have alcohol right at the end

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Speaker 2: prior to leave? You say so, after you'd gone, after

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Speaker 2: you'd gone back and talked to that individual twice and

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Speaker 2: told them to come and have a drink with you.

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Speaker 2: Only then did you have the wine tasting. Yes, very sop.

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Speaker 1: Next politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments, certainty,

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Speaker 1: very so.

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Speaker 2: Pre senior political correspondence with us Barry, Hello, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Has so those raids on the mangro of that happened

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Speaker 2: yesterday that come up in Parliament today.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, they were fantastic, weren't they It just goes to

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Speaker 18: show that the police really are taking the gangs very seriously.

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Speaker 18: We had the common cero's all, most of them in

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Speaker 18: christ Church being arrested. Now we've got the Moneies, particularly

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Speaker 18: a Polto key they looked at and they raided there.

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Speaker 18: And I mean there's almost bloody wall zone out there

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Speaker 18: if you look at what they pack up in these raids. Rifles, pistols, cannabis, methamphetamine, cocaine,

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Speaker 18: eight hundred thousand dollars worth of property. I mean it's

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Speaker 18: quite incredible. Well, in Parliament this afternoon, the Maldi party

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Speaker 18: leader I Well rewaited tea. He wanted to know why

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Speaker 18: Maldi weren't given advance notice of the raids. I would

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Speaker 18: have thought that would have been obvious, because he says

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Speaker 18: women and children have been left traumatized by them. Policemanister

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Speaker 18: Mark Mitchell, though, was making no apologies for them.

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Speaker 19: I've been to a Potocue several times and have met

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Speaker 19: with local Evian Habu, the mayor and counselors and gang leadership.

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Speaker 16: All of them expressed to.

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Speaker 19: Me a strong desire for the town to take a

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Speaker 19: different path than the one that it was on. And

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Speaker 19: I hope that yesterday will be the circuit breaker a

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Speaker 19: podoke needed.

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Speaker 20: If this government's objective is to crack down on gangs,

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Speaker 20: why then with Taminiki comar tour mother's best beeting baby

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Speaker 20: subjected to the police range yesterday in Portuguese and now

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Speaker 20: are fearful that police actions are targeted, calculated and planned

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Speaker 20: to create an unsafe environment.

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Speaker 19: Well, we don't want Tom Ricky being in a gang environment.

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Speaker 19: It's not the police officers that choose to keep weapons

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Speaker 19: and drugs in the houses.

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Speaker 16: There's those gang members that choose to do that.

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Speaker 7: I'd say, here here to that guy has deluded.

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Speaker 18: Well, I'm so sorry if family members have to be

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Speaker 18: around when this sort of things happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think they're around. Like, let's be honest

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Speaker 2: about it. If you're living in a house with a

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Speaker 2: mongrel mob gang member.

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Speaker 7: And there's rifles and money, I.

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Speaker 2: Think the police rate is the least of your problems.

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Speaker 7: And if you were thinking about your kids, you wouldn't

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Speaker 7: be in that.

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Speaker 2: No, and it is hardly the most violent thing that

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Speaker 2: you'll be subjected to it on a weekly basis. Okay, weird,

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Speaker 2: So whenever he's courting a weird vote, here isn't.

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Speaker 7: He Well, yeah, I'm not quite sure what he's.

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Speaker 2: Courting, because courting the gang vote.

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Speaker 21: Well, your but.

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Speaker 18: Gang members are what about eight thousand gang members in

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Speaker 18: the country. That's not going to put you back into parliament,

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Speaker 18: is it.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not big, But then again the numbers and

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Speaker 2: the Marii electric is probably not that big.

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Speaker 18: I would imagine there wouldn't be a lot of sympathy

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Speaker 18: out there broadly in the Maldi community for these gangs.

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Speaker 2: Listen, what was there some protest about the anti worker

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Speaker 2: government about today?

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Speaker 18: Well, if you listen to the CTU from fang Array

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Speaker 18: down to win for Cargol, around ten thousand people turned

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Speaker 18: out across the country basically saying that the government is

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Speaker 18: launching ongoing attacks against workers. There were a thousand people

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Speaker 18: gathered here in Auckland and the Aita Square this afternoon.

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Speaker 18: Labours Camilla Balich she made something of a misfire in

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Speaker 18: Parliament this afternoon when she asked the Minister of Workplace

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Speaker 18: Relations Brook van Balden, whether she agreed with the protest

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Speaker 18: that that was the worst government in decades. Not surprisingly,

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Speaker 18: she didn't. Balich clearly got more than she bargained for.

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Speaker 22: Though The most anti worker government we've seen in decades

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Speaker 22: is the previous government. It was the previous government that

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Speaker 22: ordered vaccine mandates for workers. Never before have we seen

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Speaker 22: the rights of workers across this country be eroded so swiftly.

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Speaker 22: Not only did this a roague workers freedom of choice

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Speaker 22: and bodily autonomy. So many people were forced out of

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Speaker 22: their jobs because the government refused to look at other

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Speaker 22: options like rat tests. Rather than listen to those affected workers,

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Speaker 22: the previous government pushed them to the margins of society.

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Speaker 2: Not about arguments. Remember when old j Justinda and shed

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Speaker 2: be loved punching down.

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Speaker 7: That's right, you need to beget those loved.

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Speaker 18: It reminded me when Brook van Velden stood up to

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Speaker 18: reply to that question.

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Speaker 7: I thought, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Very very quickly. Yep, one fewer electric seats there will

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Speaker 2: be because of Has this got to do with the

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Speaker 2: fact that the North Island has to have a certain

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Speaker 2: number compared to the South Island.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's the census. It's basically numbers.

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Speaker 2: That's where people are living.

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Speaker 18: So the sensors have shown that clearly the North Island

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Speaker 18: is overpopulated with seats, So there'll be one fewer seat

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Speaker 18: this coming election where it's going to be. I tried

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Speaker 18: to find out, of course, through the bureaucracy, but I've

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Speaker 18: got so many press secretaries in it it's very hard

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Speaker 18: to get pin one down to find out what's going on.

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Speaker 7: But there will still be one hundred and twenty seats.

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Speaker 2: Because a be replaced by list MP Barry, thanks very much,

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Speaker 2: very so for senior political correspondent seven away from five

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Speaker 2: putting the.

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Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

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Speaker 23: Breakfast, when does compare up and say sorry, because it

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Speaker 23: looks like you can provide school lunches at a much

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Speaker 23: cheaper price and with less waste, and they look more

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Speaker 23: than good enough to week to meet David Seymour's with us.

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Speaker 24: I think what has seen done is actually quite amazing.

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Speaker 24: But it's not really me that's done it. I just

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Speaker 24: let a group of people get on with it. All

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Speaker 24: I've donet is bring together a group of people, business,

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Speaker 24: voluntary sector, government and say here's a big target three dollars.

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Speaker 11: Can we do it?

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Speaker 24: Given those conditions they've underway and basically if later it

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Speaker 24: adopted this model five years ago, the total savings to

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Speaker 24: date would be eight hundred and sixty million dollars. Instead,

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Speaker 24: we have eight hundred and sixty million more debts that

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Speaker 24: ironically that children getting the lunches will have to pay back.

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Speaker 23: Tomorrow at six am, the Mike asking breakfast with the

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Speaker 23: Rain drover of the Lahne News Talk ZB for.

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Speaker 2: Away from five listen. This is a fascinating though. This

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Speaker 2: fascinates me. It might be a little bit beltweyh, so

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Speaker 2: I apologize, but I'm fascinated by this. Okay. So, aarn

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Speaker 2: ZED Radio New Zealand, publicly funded radio station pulled an

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Speaker 2: episode of a podcast because it didn't think that it

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Speaker 2: was fair and balanced to blow. It just didn't It

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Speaker 2: didn't align with its sedatorial standards. The podcast was an

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Speaker 2: episode that Anneka Moore had done. It's her podcast with

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Speaker 2: Kitty Allen and and orinz. It were being a little

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Speaker 2: shady about why it got pulled, and then some media

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Speaker 2: asked for the information under the Official Information Act. And

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Speaker 2: this is the bit, this is the bit where they're

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Speaker 2: discussing Chris Luxen that gets the podcast canceled.

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Speaker 25: It could have been anyone, right, any white pale mile style.

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Speaker 25: It could have been any white like literally, anyone could

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Speaker 25: have been my granddad. You know, you know, people wanted

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Speaker 25: to vote for National because they were sick of Jasinda

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Speaker 25: and labor and that's just the fact. Yeah, not me,

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Speaker 25: of course, I'm just want to feel talking for the people,

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Speaker 25: the fathers.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, so I don't think Chris Luxon is a bad guy.

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Speaker 4: Is that that bad?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's just an opinion like that. So

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Speaker 2: Anika's opinion as people just vote for himkids as a

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Speaker 2: white dude.

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Speaker 9: That's not that. What's it?

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Speaker 2: What's offensive about that?

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Speaker 9: I mean?

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Speaker 21: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Anyways, They then go on to discuss Keeddy Ellen getting

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Speaker 2: into politics and Kitty says she was caughted by a

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Speaker 2: bunch of a bunch of parties, and Anika says, is

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Speaker 2: that because they were wanting to top up the colors

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Speaker 2: add a bit of brown to white town? Well again,

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Speaker 2: whatso I mean like political parties do court different like diversity? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about this latter because I don't know what

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Speaker 2: the problem here is news talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 4: Pressing the newspakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: get connected us.

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Speaker 4: Dog SEDB.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. There are ongoing questions about the Government's reasons for

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Speaker 2: intervening in Wellington City Council, given that one of the reasons,

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Speaker 2: which is that the council is using rates to pay

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Speaker 2: for pipes rather than debt to pay for pipes, is

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Speaker 2: something that actually plenty of other councils are doing as well. Campbell,

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Speaker 2: Barry is Lower hutsmeare and with us Hey Campbell Hi

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Speaker 2: Hever does your council do it too?

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Speaker 26: Each council is different, However, it's not uncommon, given council's

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Speaker 26: financial constraints in the structure that we have to operate within,

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Speaker 26: for rates to be somewhat loaded to pay for the

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Speaker 26: obstructor investment we need to do. So, it's not uncommon,

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Speaker 26: and I would say a number of particularly growth councils

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Speaker 26: would be in a similar position.

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Speaker 2: How many of them are doing it to the extent

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Speaker 2: that Wellington City councilors though, I mean it's ninety four

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Speaker 2: percent rated and only six percent loaded on debts.

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Speaker 26: I wouldn't be able to say without going through the

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Speaker 26: detail on that. What I would say, however, is the

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Speaker 26: solution is in water reform, and one of the solutions

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Speaker 26: which the Government has put on the table for Councils

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Speaker 26: was announced in August and unless Wannington City Council was

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Speaker 26: a time traveler, they wouldn't have been able to implement

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Speaker 26: that in their long term plan in June.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is what you're talking about. There is the

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Speaker 2: fact that the government gave us in August the option

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Speaker 2: to be able to put it through this cheaper debt.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, yes, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But that doesn't mean that's the only debt available

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Speaker 2: to Wellington City Council. There was always debt options. They

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Speaker 2: could have just gone and got debt.

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Speaker 26: I think there are a number of options for councils

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Speaker 26: and how they choose to prioritize and fund their work programs.

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Speaker 26: The question from me for me is as that grounds

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Speaker 26: for intervention, because that means that there are a number

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Speaker 26: of other councils potentially who could be staring down that barrel.

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Speaker 26: So that that is a concern and I think that

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Speaker 26: it's one worth raising around.

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Speaker 2: This clearly as though not just that, right, this is

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Speaker 2: just one factor. There are a multitude of problems there though,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 26: Look, I think the issues in Warlington City Council have

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Speaker 26: been well canvassed. I don't need to go through them.

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Speaker 26: Of course, when you create a significant financial hole in

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Speaker 26: your long term plan a few months after passing it,

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Speaker 26: I think that's always going to be something that draws

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Speaker 26: the attention of government, No question, Campbell.

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Speaker 2: It sounds to me like you don't buy the government's

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Speaker 2: reason for intervening. Is that fair?

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Speaker 26: I don't buy the reason which says you did not

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Speaker 26: use a tool which we have given you through water

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Speaker 26: reform in August when they pass their plan in June.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't add up.

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Speaker 26: What I think should hopefully clear up the matters is

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Speaker 26: for the Minister to release the advice that he received

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Speaker 26: from officials so we can all see that and understand

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Speaker 26: and it's full context.

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Speaker 2: Okay Campbell, thanks for that, man, I appreciate it. That's Campbell,

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Speaker 2: Barry lowhearts.

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Speaker 4: Mare Heather due for cellen So.

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Speaker 2: Parliament's big banking inquiry kicked off today. The first to

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Speaker 2: face the grilling was the A and Z boss Antonia Watson.

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Speaker 2: Stuart Smith is a National and P. He's also the

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Speaker 2: chair of the Finance and Expenditure Committee running this particular

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Speaker 2: inquiry and is with us now has Stewart. Oh, good evening,

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Speaker 2: Stuart fair to say you guys didn't actually get anything

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Speaker 2: much out of this.

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Speaker 27: Well, I don't think we really expected to get too much.

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Speaker 27: I think was interesting what wasn't answered and some of

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Speaker 27: the you know, the answers that we got were essentially

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Speaker 27: not accepting what the Commerce Commission had found in their

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Speaker 27: market study. And it was really interesting actually when you

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Speaker 27: start looking at the numbers. They found in fact that

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Speaker 27: our banks are our big banks are very profitable on

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Speaker 27: a world stage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the bank's counter that by saying, actually, a

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Speaker 2: twelve percent return on investment is pretty middle of the road.

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Speaker 27: Our the A and D has a twelve point six

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Speaker 27: percent return on equity. I think that's quite high, and

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Speaker 27: particularly considering it's relatively low risk. I mean, our banks

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Speaker 27: haven't lost money in twenty nine years, so they they've

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Speaker 27: had a pretty low risk model, and they've not invested

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Speaker 27: a lot in innovation, and as the market study shows,

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Speaker 27: is very little in the way of competition. But that's

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Speaker 27: what we haven't got any conclusions yet that we're trying

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Speaker 27: to dig into all of that and get some answers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what did you actually get out of today?

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Speaker 2: Was it worth making Antonia fly down?

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Speaker 27: Absolutely absolutely? It's new Zealanders need answers. New Zealanders who

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Speaker 27: are paying their mortgages every day or every week, they

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Speaker 27: need to.

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Speaker 2: Answers. Did you get out of Antonia and the chair

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Speaker 2: that we haven't got for you in an interview on

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Speaker 2: the phone.

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Speaker 27: Well, I don't think you get the real answers unless

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Speaker 27: you get them in front of Select Committee. We're going

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Speaker 27: to get more because we've gotten questions that are going

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Speaker 27: to them. We will find out what she got paid

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Speaker 27: last year. She didn't answer that question.

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Speaker 2: That's fair enough, though, Stewart, isn't it. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're earning two point five million plus, you've stopped counting,

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Speaker 2: haven't you.

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Speaker 27: I'd be very surprised if a bank, a senior bank

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Speaker 27: executive wasn't interested in to the dollar and how much

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Speaker 27: they paid.

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Speaker 2: Really Okay, Stuart, thank you, I appreciate it. Well, good

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Speaker 2: luck with the rest of the banking inquiry. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to the juicy stuff. That's Stuart Smith, National MP

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Speaker 2: and Chair of the Finance and Expenditure Committee.

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Speaker 4: Heather do for clan.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of money, some people are not going to be

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Speaker 2: happy about this, and they aren't. Bad news today for

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Speaker 2: fans of Travis Scott the American Rapper. He was supposed

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Speaker 2: to go, he was supposed to be playing at Eden

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Speaker 2: Park next Thursday, and with a week's notice he's changed

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Speaker 2: the day. So it's not going to be next Thursday

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Speaker 2: at Eden Park now now it's going to be next Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: And the reason given are logistical reasons, and no, what

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Speaker 2: does that even mean? What does logistical reasons even mean? Travis?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean that your concert, your stage hasn't arrived

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Speaker 2: from wherever you were yesterday Melbourne or whatever? Or does

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Speaker 2: logistical reasons mean that you managed to actually find the

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Speaker 2: baller Halloween costume and you've got to get back to

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Speaker 2: the States for it. What does logistical reasons mean anyway?

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Speaker 2: That's all we've got anyway. So the fans on Reddit,

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Speaker 2: the fans have hit the reddit and this is where

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Speaker 2: people got to complain nowadays, and they are really unhappy

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Speaker 2: about it. N As you feel sorry for a bunch

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Speaker 2: of them. One of them says, fuming, I'm a broke

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Speaker 2: UNI student, booked flights and accommodation day of Now all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden you're going to have to change it.

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Speaker 2: And you know what it's like trying to book a

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Speaker 2: flight on near New Zealand. You booked it for Thursday

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Speaker 2: going home Friday, and now it's going to be Wednesday

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Speaker 2: going home Thursday. Jeesu's and you may as well just

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Speaker 2: for fit that flight book another flight altogether. The cost

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Speaker 2: of changing your flight is like another ticket. Heather not

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Speaker 2: Heather Lord? Is they not writing it to me? Personally?

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Speaker 2: Reddit Comma. This was so unexpected out the gate. I

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Speaker 2: thought the email was some weird scam at first. Loll

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Speaker 2: been waiting since I was thirteen to see him live.

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Speaker 2: He pulls this stunt on a Wednesday that I'm working,

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Speaker 2: so gutted, can no longer go because the flight's accommodation. Second,

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Speaker 2: tired of New Zealand getting screwed over by artists who

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Speaker 2: don't give a damn about New Zealand. The concert scene

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Speaker 2: is awful here. This is my third canceled show this year,

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming, says someone it's because Travis wants to get

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Speaker 2: back to the US for Halloween with time to spare. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's as good a reason as any because logistical who

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Speaker 2: knows fourteen past? I guess stop the press, because if

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Speaker 2: you are a wine lover, this is something pretty special.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to know about. The Results of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand International Wine Show were announced on the weekend and

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Speaker 2: a result that really stood out was the trophy winner

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Speaker 2: for the Champion pinogree. Why because it's only eleven ninety

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00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: nine per bottle right now with the Good Wine Co.

875
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: How good is that the trophy winning wine was left

876
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: Field Marlborough Pinogree twenty twenty four. This is incredibly, absolutely

877
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: incredible that a wine up for grabs at just eleven

878
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: ninety nine per bottle could take out a trophy at

879
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: New Zealand's largest international wine and it's not hard to

880
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: see why because the wine is bloody delicious right think

881
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: poached pear, apple, citrus, subtle spice flavors. And if you

882
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: order it the Good Wine Co Right now, you're gonna

883
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: pay just a dollar per case delivery to your door

884
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: anywhere in New Zealand conditions apply. The trophy champion winning

885
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: penogree for just eleven ninety nine per bottle one dollar delivery.

886
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: How good? Order online right now at the Good Wine

887
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: Dot cod on is Zediel give them a call. Oh

888
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: eight hundred double six two double six.

889
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: Two Heather do for see ala.

890
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: I got to the bottom of what's going on with

891
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: Travis rescheduling his concert. Apparently it's because Auntie Helen is

892
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: going out for dinner on Wednesday, and so she doesn't

893
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: mind if there's a concert next door on Wednesday, but

894
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: Thursday's going to be a problem because she and Peter

895
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: at planning to be at home on Thursday. So thank

896
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Speaker 2: you Greg for sending that text through eighteen past five.

897
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: Now uber Eats is expanding to twelve more towns across

898
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Speaker 2: the country from November. Topaul Live in Masterton, Fakatana, you're

899
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: all in for retreat, and then in the South Blenheim,

900
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: Timaru Ashburton, Warnica, You're gonna get it as well. Owner

901
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: of Monsoon Poone and president of the Restaurant Association, Mike

902
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: Eagler is with us. Hey Mike, a good afternoon, Mike.

903
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: Now not everybody loves the old uber eats, But what

904
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Speaker 2: do you reckon? Is this going to be good for

905
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: these towns and the restaurants they're all bad?

906
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 11: Oh I think it's going to be good. Yeah, I

907
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 11: mean we use it, Uber Eats. It's just another, you know,

908
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 11: arrow in the quiver of getting to an audience, and

909
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 11: people need a bit of convenient sometimes and some of

910
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 11: those locations that you've talked about. I can see, you know,

911
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 11: the campgrounds are getting people will be sick of having

912
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 11: snails on the barbecue and order up some muber eats

913
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 11: if you had too many drinks in the sun to

914
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Speaker 11: drive to your favorite restaurants.

915
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So as a consumer, I see no downside

916
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: in uber eats, right. It opens up all these restaurants

917
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: that I can't be theft going to. What's the downside

918
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Speaker 2: for restaurants.

919
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 11: Well, there is a commission component to it, but if restaurants,

920
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 11: I mean it might be five or ten percent soon,

921
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 11: it's not. It's just a nice to have. It's great

922
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 11: to get your brand out to people that maybe can't

923
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Speaker 11: travel into the city to try your food, or they've

924
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 11: got other and they can get something to eat. We've

925
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Speaker 11: got one of Guy's heir one hundred and city deliveries

926
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Speaker 11: of their Vietnamese f has. He's never even been to

927
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Speaker 11: our restaurant, but that he likes this one desh and

928
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 11: orders it all the time. So yes, just another audience brilliant.

929
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Speaker 2: Oh, Mike, thank you very much, really appreciated. Mike Egan,

930
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Speaker 2: owner of Monsoon Poon, Prisoners of the Restaurant's Association. Thank God.

931
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Speaker 2: I'm tired of people knocking the Uber eats.

932
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Speaker 9: Do you know what?

933
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: Can I say this Uber eats everywhere, please, and also

934
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: Uber everywhere. If I have to go to a small

935
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: town and there's not Uber eats and Uber, I'm always

936
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: disappointed because I'm.

937
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 4: Like, oh, how inconvenient.

938
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Speaker 2: And this is what I had to do in Melbourne,

939
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Speaker 2: which actually isn't a small town, so more for me.

940
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: But I just couldn't be I don't know, I'm not

941
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: gonna make a very strong argument couldn't be fat, And

942
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: so in the end would put the little boy to

943
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Speaker 2: bed and then one of us would go out sort

944
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Speaker 2: of wandering the streets looking for some something to eat.

945
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: It's really inconvenient, and had we just got onto Uber eats,

946
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: actually I would have solved that problem. That's my own problem, Heather.

947
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: Maybe the problem with the Killery Allen comments and the

948
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: anikamor comment was that it was racist, agist, and sexist. Look,

949
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Speaker 2: that's a fair point, Okay, saying that people only voted

950
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: for Chris Luxen because he's a white dude is technically

951
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: racist and sexist. That is fair. But on the other hand,

952
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: what I think kind of outweighed it for me was

953
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Speaker 2: that Anika then goes on to say that maybe the

954
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: reason everybody wanted Kiddy and the party was because they

955
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: wanted to top up the colors and add a bit

956
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: of brown to white town, which is truth. I think

957
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: that we need to acknowledge, right, this is what happens

958
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: in political parties and businesses now. Literally they look for

959
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: people who are women and people who are brown so

960
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: that they can make their quotas look cool, so they

961
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: could be like, look at this diversity, Well we've got

962
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: a woman, yay. I mean, thanks for calling it out,

963
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: because that does happen, and thanks for calling out the

964
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: fact that they go around basically trying to court brown

965
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: MP's brown candidates so that they can have some you know,

966
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: can have a bit of diversity in there. So it

967
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: was kind of like, yeah, on one end, not so great.

968
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: On the other hand, fair enough, But either way, it's

969
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: their opinions. Now, why are you pulling a podcast when

970
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: it's just full of opinion anywhere? We'll talk to the

971
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: huddle when they're with us. Shortly five to twenty one.

972
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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

973
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: allan drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and

974
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: us talks.

975
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Speaker 2: That'd be I'm going to get in trouble for saying this, Heather, So,

976
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: a pregnant woman knows what a new wine tastes like. Now,

977
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't drink currently because I am I'm quite well,

978
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: I'm quite pregnant. But as well as that, I'm quite

979
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: on one of those people who weirdly has to do

980
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: everything to the best of my ability, including not drinking.

981
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: But one day we will talk about the fact that

982
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: when you are pregnant you actually can drink alcohol. I'm

983
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: going to get in trouble for that. We'll talk about

984
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: that one day, five twenty four. Go on, then hit

985
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: me with a bsover and we'll talk about the science.

986
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: Five twenty four. Now, look, I'm going to do something

987
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: unusual here, and that is to cut Tory Farno a

988
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 2: little bit of slack. Now, I don't get me wrong.

989
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that she is suddenly smart or capable

990
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: of doing her job, or that it wasn't a mistake

991
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: to elect do. I still think she's an incompetent flake,

992
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: But I I don't think that she should bear the

993
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: absolute responsibility for what's going on at Wellington City Council,

994
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: nor in fact, do I think that the elected councilors

995
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: around the table the rest of them should either, because

996
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: i'm What I want to do is point out to

997
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: you what a lot of people don't realize, which is

998
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: that the unelected officials, the gray suits working in damp

999
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: offices behind the scenes, are actually a lot of the

1000
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: problem here as well. It's a massive problem. Hopefully this

1001
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: Crown Observer will get these guys to pull up their

1002
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: socks in a big way too. These guys, the unelected officials,

1003
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you realize, have been playing silly

1004
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: buggist to an extreme level at Wellington City Council. The

1005
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: Chief Executive, the most senior unelected official in Wellington City Council,

1006
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: didn't tell councilors that she knew for months that a

1007
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: very expensive project to restore the town Hall had already

1008
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: blown its budget by nearly one hundred and fifty million dollars.

1009
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: Just decided it wasn't going to tell them, decided that

1010
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: the democratically elected people didn't need to know. She then

1011
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: also drew up rules earlier this year blocking what information

1012
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: those councilors could ask for again, decided that the democratically

1013
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: elected councilors just weren't allowed to have certain information. She

1014
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: would decide what they could see, and then her staff

1015
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: also refused to show counselors legal advice on the Wellington

1016
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: Airports shares sale, just flat out refuse, like, no, you

1017
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: can't see the legal We paid for it, but you

1018
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: can't see it. To this day, as far as I know,

1019
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: counselors are still confused about how much money they are

1020
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: now short on now that they have overturned that airport

1021
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: sales decision. They it's somewhere they have been told between

1022
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: short on no money, short on two hundred million odd

1023
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: dollars or short on six hundred million odd dollars. Now

1024
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: that seduced, the council has been playing silly buggers with

1025
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: them again. There is a lot going wrong at Wellington

1026
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: City Council. It is not just Tory. It is not

1027
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: just the money on the pipes. It is not just

1028
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: the councilors around the table. So I'm going to cut

1029
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: Tory a little bit of slack, because yes, she absolutely

1030
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: is a major problem here, but she's not the only

1031
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: problem either.

1032
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: Duplusy Ellen.

1033
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: Watch yeah, cold Watch here a little update for you.

1034
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Speaker 2: We are already where are we. We are at the

1035
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: cusp of summer, and we are already hoarding coal for

1036
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: next winter. Genesis Energy has announced it's going to increase

1037
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: the coal stockpile at Huntley Power Station because it reckons already.

1038
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: It is widely believed that next winter is going to

1039
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: be extremely challenging. So its target now is to stockpile

1040
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: five hundred killer tons five hundred kilo tons of coal

1041
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: to cover the period between March and August next year. Now,

1042
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: to put that into context for you, that is more

1043
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: than double what they've got there right now. So however

1044
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: big that coal pile is, they are going to more

1045
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: than double that coal pile.

1046
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 12: Now.

1047
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank goodness that we banned

1048
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: finding any more of that evil gas in the ground day,

1049
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: because now that we've got rid of the evil gas

1050
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 2: that was ruining the climate, it can really just free

1051
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: us up to go real hard on burning the coal.

1052
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: Absolutely excellent decision. I hope today. I hope today that

1053
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: anybody who sees Megan or Chloe or any of the

1054
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: other ones who supported that gas decision just goes up

1055
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: to them and says well done. We're just we're so

1056
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: excited about the size of the cold stock part for

1057
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: next year. Yeah. Joel King on squash at the Commonwealth Games.

1058
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Speaker 28: Next, the day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather duper

1059
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 28: Se Alan drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected

1060
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 28: and news talk z be saw me you can.

1061
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 29: Condo condus, you're so high you can't come down. Come

1062
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 29: ask you.

1063
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'm I mean Jesus, if you're a Fletcher shareholder

1064
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: at this point, you're probably like, why am I still

1065
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: a Fletcher shareholder? I would ask you that same question,

1066
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: why are you used to? Because the news continues to

1067
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: be bad today. Then they announced that their revenue is

1068
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: down twelve percent in September compared to a year ago.

1069
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: We're going to and also directors are quitting and stuff

1070
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: like that. Apparently directors were very humble today, which is

1071
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: what they wanted to see the shareholders. We're going to

1072
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 2: have a chat to the Shaholders Associations Olive Amanda after

1073
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: six about that. The Huddle is standing by this evening,

1074
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: we have David Farrer and Dave Latally, so bear with

1075
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Speaker 2: twenty three away.

1076
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 4: From six hever do for see Alan.

1077
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: Now, as we know the Glasgow Commonwealth Games going to

1078
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: be cut back to ten sports. That means a whole

1079
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: bunch of sports will miss out, including hockey, seven's, rugby

1080
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: and squash, which is tough news for Kiwi athletes competing

1081
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: in these codes. And one of them, obviously is Joel King,

1082
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: who's won eight Commonwealth Games medals and squash five of them.

1083
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: Gold is with us now, Joel, Hello, Hi, how are

1084
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: you there. You don't sound that gutted.

1085
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Speaker 30: Oh, you know, it's been bad news for all of us,

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Speaker 30: but you just got to you've got to crack on. No,

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Speaker 30: you can't change the decision now, and we've now got

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Speaker 30: the Olympics that we've just got to try and focus on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose it's a bit of a consolation prizes

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Speaker 2: and that is actually going to be at the Olympics, definitely.

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Speaker 30: I mean it's throughout my career, you know, which has

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Speaker 30: been is eighteen years now, it's been the thing that

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Speaker 30: or squash has always tried to achieve, is to get

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Speaker 30: to the Olympics. So it's it's I guess a bit

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Speaker 30: of bittersweet because the Komwath Games. Also for us as

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Speaker 30: New Zealanders has always been the pinnacle, so it's it's

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Speaker 30: a bit of a catch twenty two. I think, you know,

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Speaker 30: there's there's a rainbow on the other side of it,

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Speaker 30: but you know, the Komwath Games has always got a

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Speaker 30: special place for us as athletes and also the New

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Speaker 30: Zealand community.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, you were one hundred percent going to

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Speaker 2: get a medal at the comm Games in Glasgow. How

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Speaker 2: do you rate your chances though, in a wider field

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Speaker 2: at the Olympic Games in twenty eight.

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Speaker 30: I mean, obviously, you know, taking into first of all,

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Speaker 30: my age in twenty twenty eight, I'm going to be

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Speaker 30: thirty nine years old, so that's a spener in the works.

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Speaker 16: But I think what the.

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Speaker 30: Kind of interesting thing about this new campaign, which is

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Speaker 30: the Olympics, is that it's something completely new, not only

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Speaker 30: in terms of you know, the first time going for

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00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 30: the Olympics, but for me a complete change in focus.

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Speaker 4: You know, normally it's.

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Speaker 30: Week in, week out out on the PSA World Tour

1116
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Speaker 30: focusing on that, but now it's you know, sort of

1117
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 30: going four years ahead and working our way backwards to

1118
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Speaker 30: try and peak for that. So you know, I think

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Speaker 30: that if the Olympics is anything to go by, and

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Speaker 30: what we saw even a bit this year is you know,

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Speaker 30: you quite often see the dark horses come through and

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Speaker 30: the ones that are expected quite often can't handle the pressure.

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Speaker 30: You know, it's a it's a total different ball game.

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Speaker 30: And I think the interesting thing for us, the Comwathe

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Speaker 30: Games athletes is we've had a bit of exposure to

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Speaker 30: it with the Koonwathe Games. For some of the other

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Speaker 30: countries they've never even played anything like that comes close

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Speaker 30: to it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's.

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Speaker 30: A few pros and cons definitely, but yeah, I'm excited

1131
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 30: to just give it a go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Hey, Beast of lud Joellen, thanks very much.

1133
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Speaker 2: I mean you are lessen and keeping your chin up.

1134
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Speaker 2: That's Joelle King, five time Commonwealth Games gold midlist, So

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Speaker 2: I guess you don't get to being a gold medalist

1136
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Speaker 2: that many times over without having some discipline in your head.

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Speaker 2: Right heither. I drive past the Huntly power station every

1138
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Speaker 2: single day. I was surprised at how fast they ate

1139
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Speaker 2: through the pile. This last winter. It was there one

1140
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: day and then it was gone the next, and now

1141
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: every day they've got trucks just lining up dumping their

1142
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: coal there every single day. It's good to see. It

1143
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: is good to see. I'll tell you why. It's good

1144
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 2: to see because the lights will be on over winter

1145
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: despite the best efforts of our bait Meghan and also

1146
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: supporters like Chloe. So that's good in that twenty away

1147
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Speaker 2: from six the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty, local and global exposure.

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Speaker 2: Like no other huddle of us this evening. David farre

1150
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: of Kiwi Blog and Dave Littally Butterbean Motivation. Now are

1151
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Speaker 2: you two and especially you Dave? First time?

1152
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 21: Yeah, I feel like I've made it problem the big time.

1153
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: Jeez, Dave, you've You're very easy to please. Now I'm

1154
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: sorry that we've ended up with two chaps with exactly

1155
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: the same name. So you're gonna have to and carefully

1156
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 2: because there's going to be It's going to be David

1157
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: and Dave. Okay, So one of you is casual and

1158
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: the other one not so want to start with you, David.

1159
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: Is this government intervention into Wellington City Council looking a

1160
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: little dodgy to you?

1161
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 9: No, not at all.

1162
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 5: Look, it's probably the most popular thing.

1163
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 9: That could happen in Wellington.

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Speaker 5: Uh, people, there's the official reasons for doing that, which

1165
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 5: as they've backpacked on their long term plan and you.

1166
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: Know rates have gone up.

1167
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Speaker 5: But there's a lot of other issues to people think

1168
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 5: the councils above a bunch of muppets, so they're just

1169
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: planning to see something has happened.

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Speaker 9: Dave.

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Speaker 2: Here you are sitting in Auckland, just sort of ring along,

1172
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: like do you from from this far away? Have you

1173
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: got the same perspective?

1174
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: I think when you do as bad a job as

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00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 21: they have done in Wellington, you know has to be expected.

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Speaker 21: I do a lot of talking and to corporates around

1178
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Speaker 21: the country, and whenever I speak in Oneington, I always

1179
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 21: ask you know, what's what's it like down here? And

1180
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 21: a lot of what they say I can't repeat on air.

1181
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah you do?

1182
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 9: You not though, Dave's Auckland look good bye comparison.

1183
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: But but hold on, David, I mean, like, don't be

1184
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: unfair in Auckland, because actually I was talking to somebody

1185
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: about this today. Wayne Brown is actually, regardless of whether

1186
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: you look at relativity, doing a really good job, isn't he?

1187
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: Well?

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00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 5: Seven percent rates increases. I would take over twenty percent,

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Speaker 5: very very happily.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. All right, Dave, do you think that we

1191
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 2: should feel bad? Do you feel bad about the fact

1192
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: that there are businesses will who will have to cut

1193
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: staff here in New Zealand and will probably have a

1194
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: really hard time because David Seymol's decided to go with

1195
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: a big multi net a big global company for the

1196
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Speaker 2: food and schools program.

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Speaker 21: Oh, look, we're all feeling it, not not just these companies,

1198
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Speaker 21: community group's charities. Everyone's feeling the pinch. I think, you know,

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Speaker 21: it's good that they save that money. What I'd like

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Speaker 21: to know is what they're doing with the savings. That's

1201
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 21: That's more what I'm interested in.

1202
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Speaker 2: Are they building hospital beds and stuff like that?

1203
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Speaker 21: Not that I know of.

1204
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Speaker 2: What do you think they're doing with the money?

1205
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Speaker 4: Dave? Well, so that day with David, there was a.

1206
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Speaker 2: Day that I knew it was going to happen.

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Speaker 11: That was a day.

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Speaker 21: Just call meter being Heather.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, I.

1210
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Speaker 21: Think it's I think that you know, Look, they're still

1211
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Speaker 21: they keep talking this pre election about we're taking the

1212
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Speaker 21: money out of bureaucracy and wanting to put an into

1213
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Speaker 21: the community as well. We're all still waiting. You know,

1214
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 21: we're on the I'm on the ground every single day

1215
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 21: and we're all still waiting for this, this investment into community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, David, I feel kind of surprised, and it probably

1217
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be, but because I feel like David Seymour's got

1218
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Speaker 2: his work cut out for him with with critics. But

1219
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Speaker 2: I feel surprised at how much negativity there is around

1220
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Speaker 2: what is actually a pretty amazing thing to do, which

1221
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: is to provide the food in schools but on a budget.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, lot, it is good that if saved money, but

1223
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Speaker 5: I guess what it comes down to is that people

1224
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Speaker 5: probably don't think the governments that committed to the program.

1225
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Speaker 5: It wasn't actually given forward funding, so the government had

1226
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Speaker 5: this of thing like, oh, we either have to not

1227
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Speaker 5: keep with it or we have to find a way

1228
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Speaker 5: to make it more affordable.

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Speaker 9: And there's probably some people who would probably rather that

1230
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Speaker 9: they hadn't done the savings.

1231
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Speaker 4: Et cetera.

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Speaker 9: There So, yeah, you're good on them.

1233
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Speaker 5: In terms of the impact on businesses, I think it's

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00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 5: a bit like public service cuts. On an individual level,

1235
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 5: you feel totally terrible for someone impacted, but at the

1236
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 5: macro level, you say, look.

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Speaker 9: It had to happen. Money just doesn't open. I come

1238
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Speaker 9: off trees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair, But I mean I see you've actually

1240
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: shut down there some the food program you do in

1241
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: your food bank. Why is that?

1242
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Speaker 21: Oh, just too hard to keep it going. We're winding

1243
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 21: it down. This will be our last Christmas. After we

1244
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 21: do our Christmas event, we're also going to Tikuekia do

1245
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Speaker 21: the same thing there. It's just too hard to keep

1246
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 21: coming up with the money it requires. Is like, I

1247
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 21: just can't do it. And yeah, I hope. I'm trying

1248
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 21: my best door now to not have to do it.

1249
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 21: I'm going around knocking a lot of doors with my

1250
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 21: hat out. And so let's see.

1251
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Speaker 2: What are you because are you relying on donations?

1252
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 21: Are you donations? Our own money and government funding? So

1253
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 21: it's really is a combination of community business and all

1254
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Speaker 21: governments working together.

1255
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Speaker 4: How sure are you a lot?

1256
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: Like a lot to me? Well, a lot to me

1257
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: could could be one hundred backs, it could be one

1258
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: hundred thousand.

1259
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Speaker 21: How should look look if we had at our current level?

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Speaker 21: If we had I've been I was speaking to a

1261
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Speaker 21: door today who's going to go around to some of

1262
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 21: his rich mates and ask you know, if we had

1263
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 21: two hundred and fifty to five hundred grand a year,

1264
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 21: we could continue at the level we're doing. But we're

1265
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Speaker 21: just we're still going to focus on our recruitment, which

1266
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Speaker 21: is where we're that's what we are. We're hand up,

1267
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Speaker 21: so we'll still support with everything we're doing there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of money to find. All right,

1269
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Speaker 2: we'll take a break, come back to you guys in

1270
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Speaker 2: a tich quarter two.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate the

1272
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: marketing of your home.

1273
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Speaker 2: Back of the Huddle, Davi La Teally butter Bean and

1274
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Speaker 2: also David farabout it being let's start with you on

1275
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: this one with her Antonio Watson. Right, So the ams

1276
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: is Bos appears before the Select Committee today and can't

1277
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: remember exactly how much she gets paid. Is that weird?

1278
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 2: Or if you're earning two point five MILLI year around

1279
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: about then you just do stop counting?

1280
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 21: Oh, I mean when you're earning that kind of money, jeez,

1281
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 21: I mean I know every single cent that's coming in

1282
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 21: and out of our charity and of our business and

1283
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 21: my account. It is weird, But I think maybe it's

1284
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 21: the way it's all structured with bonuses, all this type

1285
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 21: of stuff. Again, though, you know, what are they doing

1286
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 21: with the profits they're making? That's what I want to know.

1287
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 21: What are they reinvesting into these communities?

1288
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: No, they're giving it to the shareholders, Dave, that's what's happening.

1289
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: That is why they're going to do it. What do

1290
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 2: you reckon, David?

1291
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Speaker 9: I mean I want to.

1292
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like, Look, she earns a

1293
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: lot of money, right, and a lot of people are

1294
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: going to be cross with that. But cut some slack.

1295
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: As Dave says, it is all bonuses and stuff like that.

1296
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: Who would at her level, who would be keeping account

1297
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: of that?

1298
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, it's weird for us, but I think it's

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Speaker 5: very not weird for a bank CEO, partly because she

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Speaker 5: will be uniar enough that she doesn't check how much

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Speaker 5: pay has gone into accounting report nite.

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Speaker 31: I do.

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Speaker 5: I even though I get paid by my own company,

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Speaker 5: I always check my pacelet, which weird.

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Speaker 2: So you pay yourself, but you just you hold yourself

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Speaker 2: accountable for paying yourself the right amount.

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Speaker 5: Well, my staff paybe I just trust them by cheat

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Speaker 5: may be the right amount. But also, yeah, a lot

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Speaker 5: she will head these twenty percent at rust opinion on this,

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Speaker 5: on that, and they'll pay every quarter.

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Speaker 4: So she should have given the answer.

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Speaker 9: What says, are you know my bases around one point eight?

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Speaker 9: But yeah, there's stuff on top.

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Speaker 4: But it's not surprising.

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Speaker 2: Though, No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 21: I think sometimes they're too embarrassed to talk about the money.

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Speaker 21: That's the problem we have in New Zealands. Yeah, people

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Speaker 21: are too embalocked. Man, if you're rich, it's good, but

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Speaker 21: for me again, encourage people to be rich and successful,

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Speaker 21: celebrate that, but not forget the help the less fortunate.

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Speaker 2: No, no, too right. Listen, David, do you think that

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Speaker 2: what Anika Moore said in that podcast about Chris Luxen

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Speaker 2: and about political parties trying to get brown people into

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Speaker 2: their teams was bad enough to pull the podcast?

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Speaker 9: No, not not at all. Uh, nothing that we don't

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Speaker 9: hear from lots of people.

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Speaker 5: It was obviously when when they first pulled it, I thought, oh,

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Speaker 5: Kerry Messive really gone over the top, et cetera.

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Speaker 9: Jio. But what they were saying is not stuff I

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Speaker 9: agree with.

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Speaker 5: But I didn't see anything there that would say you

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Speaker 5: can't run this on here.

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Speaker 9: Sure you might not run on cheak point but this

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Speaker 9: was a.

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Speaker 2: N but I bean, I listened to it, this is

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Speaker 2: the Orange in podcast, it was pulled. I I'd say

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Speaker 2: I had puzzled. I had texted friends. I was like,

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Speaker 2: what happened? How much did these two birds lose their minds?

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Speaker 2: And then I heard it. I was like, well, that's nothing.

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Speaker 2: What's up with that?

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Speaker 21: Yeah? I don't think it's too much of a big deal.

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Speaker 21: I always do wonder that if it was if it

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Speaker 21: was someone talking about us, you know, the a brown person,

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Speaker 21: and that way, would would there be upraw?

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Speaker 2: So, but there would be And you raise an interesting point.

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Speaker 2: But I've been what do we do about that? Though?

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Speaker 15: So?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we're prepared for Anika Moore to say

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Speaker 2: this about a white politician, how do we get ourselves

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Speaker 2: around to being okay about her saying it about a

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Speaker 2: brown politician.

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Speaker 21: If you're okay with that, you've got to be okay

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Speaker 21: with the other. That's that's that's the whole.

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Speaker 2: So then maybe so then maybe are we being unfair

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Speaker 2: on our ins because they are applying the same principle

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Speaker 2: to themselves. They would not be okay with her saying

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Speaker 2: that about a brown politician. Therefore they are not okay

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Speaker 2: with her saying that about a white politician.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I think so. I think you have to be consistent.

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Speaker 21: I mean, if something happened with the brown person, I'll

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Speaker 21: be the first one online talking about it. So yeah,

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Speaker 21: you know again, I think it's just being consistent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how good is it, David to have the Uber

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Speaker 2: Eats coming to small town? So next time you take

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Speaker 2: a trip to not An O'wonica, you can get your

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Speaker 2: MACKI D's delivered to your door.

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Speaker 9: It's wonderful. I use her is not all the time,

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Speaker 9: but you're every cup two three weeks when you're busy.

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Speaker 5: If you're traveling, you don't want to go through and

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Speaker 5: lock up where all the places are and drive out

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Speaker 5: to them, etc. You just push a button on your

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Speaker 5: phone and your food turns up.

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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 9: Even when I say.

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Speaker 5: At hotels, I don't use the hotels anymore, I just

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Speaker 5: give I always do embarrassed when they deliver my Uber

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Speaker 5: Eat to me at the reception of the hotel. But

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Speaker 5: I take the embarrassment for the fact it's one dude

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Speaker 5: the price and I can eat in my room.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I mean I don't do you.

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Speaker 21: Use it you use it, and I do also do

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Speaker 21: it at hotels, but I ask them to save the embarrassment, David,

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Speaker 21: I just get them to deliver it straight to the door.

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Speaker 2: So how do they get up the lifts though? Like you,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you need to swipe key to get up to

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Speaker 2: the third floor.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, surely they can. They figure it out. But I'm

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Speaker 21: not a fan of this only because I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 21: it's good that it's going to create more business than

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Speaker 21: all this type of stuff, but again, I think we're

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Speaker 21: a serious health crisis with obesity and everything related to it.

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Speaker 21: Making it easier to get crap food is not.

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Speaker 2: Going to be too write. You can obviously get healthy

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Speaker 2: things delivered as well. Guys, Thank you, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Dave Lettali and David Farrer out out of this evening

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Speaker 2: seven away from six.

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Speaker 4: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

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Speaker 4: your car on your drive home.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen drive with one New Zealand one

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Speaker 1: Giant Leap for Business News Talk as it.

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Speaker 2: Be either, getting Macas to Wanica from QT isn't going

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Speaker 2: to be cheap. I forgot about that. You can't get

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Speaker 2: macas and Wanica because It's one of them places, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's one of them places like La Mission Bay. We

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Speaker 2: don't have McDonald's there too. Fancy, too many fancy people

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Speaker 2: don't want the McDonald's around. So you probably have to if,

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Speaker 2: in fact, if you want a big mac, like if

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Speaker 2: you have a lot of like if you're Antonia Watson, right,

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Speaker 2: and you're in the house and Wonica, and it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: surprise me if she's got one, because she's a baller,

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Speaker 2: got a lot of money. And then she's like, you

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Speaker 2: know what I want, I want a big mac. You

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Speaker 2: get it from You get it from Queenstown because you

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Speaker 2: can afford to get that big mac over And it's

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Speaker 2: the only way you're going to get it because it's

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Speaker 2: not in your town, is it? Somehow? I don't think

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Speaker 2: Antonia the kind of woman who would stoop to eating

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Speaker 2: a big mac. But anyway, do you remember this is

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Speaker 2: some time ago I told you about this business that

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Speaker 2: was going on down at Otago Regional Council. It had

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Speaker 2: concocted new rules. Apparently Federata Farmers really upset. Otago Regional

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Speaker 2: Council concocted these new freshwater rules and they were so bizarre. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: according to Federated Farmers, they were going to end up

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Speaker 2: costing the rate payers. They're up to fifty five thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars per rate pay or per household or something. They

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Speaker 2: have just had to postpone because the government has a

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Speaker 2: last minute law change to save the situation. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a chat to Federata Farmers about it. After half

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Speaker 2: past six, I finally got an answer for you on

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Speaker 2: what happens to Darlene's pay now that she's been booted

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Speaker 2: out of Parliament. Gone immediately, No two weeks notice, four

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Speaker 2: weeks notice, three months notice, nothing. It's like and you're out,

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Speaker 2: and the money's gone, and she's hr has already taken

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Speaker 2: her off the payroll. She loses her salary, her allowances,

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Speaker 2: her contributions to Super ended yesterday as soon as the

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Speaker 2: seat was vacant. She does, though there is humanity here.

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Speaker 2: She does get four extra days of like bits and bops, right,

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Speaker 2: so she has travel allowance for another four days, accommodation

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Speaker 2: in Wellington for another four days, and her phone bills

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Speaker 2: paid for another four days. And this is basically to

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Speaker 2: give her the time to be able to go down there,

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Speaker 2: pack up her belongings and make the phone calls and

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Speaker 2: the trips that she needs to do. But that's it

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Speaker 2: by this weekend. That's it. No more money from the taxpayer.

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Speaker 2: Shareholders associated. She had fair warning though it's been going

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Speaker 2: on for a while. Sharehold Association on Fletcher Next News

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Speaker 2: Talks EB.

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Speaker 4: What's what's down?

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Speaker 1: What were the major calls and how will it affect

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Speaker 1: the economy of the big business? Questions on the Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with hither Duplicy ALP and my hr on News.

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Speaker 2: TALKSB Evening coming up with the Next Hour. Brad Olsen

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Speaker 2: is in Malaysia at the moment. He's going to talk

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Speaker 2: us through some business opportunities for us over their Milford asset.

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Speaker 2: Management will talk us through the US earning season, and

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Speaker 2: Federated Farmers will talk us through why the government finally

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Speaker 2: stepped in to save the Otago raised payers from potentially

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Speaker 2: very expensive fresh water plans. It's past six now. Fletcher

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Speaker 2: Building's chief executive and board faced some pretty unhappy shareholders

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Speaker 2: today at the company's annual general meeting. The new chief executive,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Reading, had to deliver more bad news if you

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Speaker 2: can believe it, announcing that revenue was down twelve percent

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Speaker 2: in September compared to a year ago, and gross margins

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Speaker 2: were under pressure. Oliver Amanda is the chief executive of

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Speaker 2: the Shareholders Association and he was actually at the AGM today.

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Speaker 2: Hey Oliver, Hi, Heather, how are you very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Although jeez, when is this bad news going to end?

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Speaker 29: Well?

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Speaker 32: Shareholders of Fletcher Building really hope it ends very soon.

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Speaker 2: Do you expect that it will end soon?

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Speaker 18: Though?

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Speaker 2: Hope and expectation are two completely different things.

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Speaker 32: They completely are. And look, that was one of the

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Speaker 32: questions that I did ask today. Look, I think the

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Speaker 32: thing that really sted out at the meeting for me

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Speaker 32: was the fact that you the people on the on

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Speaker 32: the podium to day, they were very humble group of people,

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Speaker 32: and that's the sort of humility that we have not

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Speaker 32: seen in a Flectual Building board for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: How did they demonstrate their humility?

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Speaker 32: I think they they were very prepared to listen to

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Speaker 32: what shareholders had to say. They allowed you, you know,

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Speaker 32: the questions that were being asked were really quite authentic

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Speaker 32: in terms of what was coming from the floor and

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Speaker 32: the impact that the that the company's performance has had

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Speaker 32: on shareholders in terms of their own returns and expectations,

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Speaker 32: and the company was very clear about taking accountability for that.

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Speaker 32: Board members, individual board members are very clear about taking

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Speaker 32: accountability for that. Yeah, we know from what we wrote

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Speaker 32: back in February that since February, the board has taken

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Speaker 32: significant steps to address many of the kids and the

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Speaker 32: concerns that we're raised, and that does include the fact

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Speaker 32: that half the board is now no longer there.

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Speaker 2: Do you think accountability is part of the reason why

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Speaker 2: Barbara Chapman is announced she's going to resign as a director.

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Speaker 32: I think that is a that's a really good question, Heather,

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Speaker 32: That's possibly it, but also it's Fletcher Building has been

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Speaker 32: a notoriously difficult company to govern for some time. I

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Speaker 32: don't think Chapman ever put herself forward as a long

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Speaker 32: term chair for the organization. I think the board has

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Speaker 32: listened to shareholders in terms of seeking out experienced people

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Speaker 32: in the building products industry or building materials background that

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Speaker 32: are probably much more suited to that board. Any board

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Speaker 32: needs a balance of skills to govern itself effectively. That's

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Speaker 32: very true. But also when thinking not balance, things don't

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Speaker 32: go well. And that was the point that was made

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Speaker 32: by shareholders today as well.

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Speaker 2: You must know the new chief executive because he was

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Speaker 2: obviously the chair at the Shareholders Association for Ages.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, yes, so I know Andrew Redding very well until

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Speaker 32: August the twenty second, of course he was my chair here,

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Speaker 32: so that's right.

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Speaker 2: And tell me about him. Has he got the chops

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Speaker 2: to turn this thing around?

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Speaker 32: Well, we would argue that Andrew he knew Fletcher's when

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 32: it was good, way back in two thousand and six

1519
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 32: when he worked there, and he certainly comes from good

1520
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 32: pedigree at that time at a time and the company

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 32: was high performing at a time when look, he was

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 32: one of the people been running for the top job

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01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 32: at that time. So knowing what the company was like

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01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 32: when it's good, balanced with a very heavy dose of

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01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 32: external perspective, and in did to say his own commentary

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01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 32: on Fletcher Building dating from way before I got here. Look,

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 32: I think that does provide the new broom that shareholders

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01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 32: have been looking for. And what was really interesting, I mean,

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Speaker 32: since he's been there in the two short months, since

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Speaker 32: he hasn't nounced the strategic review of the portfolio of

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01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,879
Speaker 32: businesses that Fletcher holds. We think it's a really critical

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01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 32: step because Actually that's ultimately about making sure that the

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 32: company allocate's capital and the right way allocate's capital into

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01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 32: the businesses that can provide the highest return for shareholders

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 32: going forward. And you know he's got a very focused

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 32: plan would seem focused on production, cash management, capitalation, closing

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01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 32: up the legacy issues that they've had, as well as

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 32: that strategic review. So all that sounds really promising and

1539
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 32: well hopeful for shareholders to use that terrible word, and look,

1540
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 32: we would hope he's being supported by a board that

1541
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 32: can give him the support that he needs to undertaker's work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair point, Oliver, Thanks very much, Olive. Amanda, chief

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01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: executive of the Shareholders Association. She's tough times at Fletcher

1544
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: the Warehouse. Now, speaking of tough times, the warehouse has

1545
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: had a tough time recently. Obviously what was it. Do

1546
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: they just a tough financial year? I can't remember if

1547
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: they made a loss, but anyway, they lost a whole

1548
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: bunch of money compared to the year before. It's trying

1549
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: to lift its game. It's revealed that there are a

1550
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: bunch they're doing I think the right thing here. They've

1551
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: brought a whole bunch of new buyers onto the buying

1552
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 2: team and the new buyers have been told to judge

1553
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 2: up the product line and basically they're making no secret

1554
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: of it. They are going to go head to head

1555
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: with Kmart. This is their plan. They basically want to

1556
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: design goods and buy goods that are trendier and cheaper

1557
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 2: so that people will want to And I think they're

1558
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 2: aiming at kind of like young women and young mums,

1559
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: so that these young women and young mums who care

1560
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 2: about looking cool but maybe don't have that much money

1561
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: to go around, will choose to go to the warehouse

1562
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: instead of going to Kmart. They reckon there'll be new

1563
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: stuff in the clothing and apparel and home ranges, summer

1564
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: season stock which hits shelves in the coming weeks, lots

1565
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: more color, lots more retro looking product. They've got Poppy,

1566
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 2: which is a teen focused health and beauty range, and

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01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: I tell you there's money to be made there and

1568
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: getting the teenagers to do stuff with their faces because

1569
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: they're watching the TikTok and all the TikTok girls are

1570
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: doing and they want to do it. So you know,

1571
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 2: there's some cheap stuff for them to buy from the warehouse.

1572
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: Now they will have ribbed active wear, cute bubble skirts,

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01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: new footwear that's a bit more contemporary in the home space,

1574
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: a lot of fun occasional pieces and new dinnerware and

1575
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: lovely colors and shapes. Now good. Because Kmart's been cutting

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: their lunch, they needed to step it up. They are

1577
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: stepping it up. So best of luck to them, because frankly,

1578
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: I would like the red shed, the old Waddy Fuddy

1579
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: to do well, wouldn't you. Thirteen past six crunching the

1580
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 2: numbers and getting the results.

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: It's heather due for Sea Allen with the business hours

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Speaker 1: thanks to my HR, the HR platform for SME on

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Speaker 1: newstalksb Hey.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk luxury goods with Milford Asset Management

1585
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: when they're with us before this half hour is finished.

1586
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: Right now at sixteen past six. Now, there's a big

1587
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: event going on in Malaysia bringing the three regions of

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01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: New Zealand, Australia and Southeast Asia together and Informentric's principal

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Speaker 2: economist Brad also never want to miss a party, is

1590
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: at this party? Brad? Hello, good afternoon. So you guys

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01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: are all there to kind of nut out how we

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Speaker 2: all make money off each other.

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01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 33: Yeah, Oh, I mean I don't think that's the official word,

1594
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 33: but that is definitely part of it. I mean, you

1595
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 33: look at Asian and the sort of wider Southeast Asian region.

1596
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 33: It's important to New Zealand, it's important to Australia, and

1597
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 33: so I'm part here as part of delegation with the

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01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 33: Asian New Zealand Foundation to have some of those conversations. Normally,

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01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 33: right for these international things, you get the diplomat to

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 33: the room, you get the Prime Minister in that in

1601
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 33: the room. Those are good conversations. But sometimes you want

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 33: to take it down a level. You want to get

1603
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 33: the business people, the academics, the policy researchers to actually

1604
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 33: sort of talk a little bit more, you know, unhinged

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 33: almost about things. But I mean you look at the

1606
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 33: numbers and you sort of see why this sort of

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 33: conversation is important for New Zealand. Over the last twelve months,

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01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 33: twenty six billion dollars worth of two way trade between

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01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 33: Zion and New Zealand. If it was a country'd ab

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 33: our fourth largest trading partner. So all of that is

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 33: critically important, and especially at a time when we're trying

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 33: to grow our exports we're trying to think about who

1613
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 33: and how we trade with and diversify our options. So

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01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 33: it's a good conversation be're part of.

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Speaker 2: So what business opportunities have we got in these regions

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01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: that we are not already tapped into. I mean there's

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Speaker 2: quite a few.

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 33: There's obviously trying to continue to upgrade what we've already got.

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01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 33: You know, if we look at what we trade often

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 33: into Southeast Asia, it is the traditional exports for New Zealand,

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 33: the likes of you know, dairy tourism, fruits and meats

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01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 33: and the like, but also importantly making sure we've got

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01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 33: the ability to get the stuff we need in from

1624
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 33: the region, So the likes of a lot of our oil,

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 33: a lot of our vehicles, a lot of our manufacturing

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 33: comes from Southeast Asia into New Zealand. And that's also

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 33: coming at a time when, of course, you look at

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01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 33: sort of the security issues around the world, there's a

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 33: lot of geopolitical positioning, there's concerns around you know, the

1630
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 33: US elections coming up, about a weaker Chinese economy, and

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01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 33: increasingly we're seeing more and more businesses across the world

1632
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 33: looking to Southeast Asia in terms of manufacturing. So they're

1633
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 33: not caught up in too much of these geopolitical issues.

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01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 33: That means that if New Zealand wants to still maintain

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 33: good supply chains and good ability to move stuff in

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01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 33: and out of New Zealand and trade with the world,

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01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 33: we've sort of got to be here.

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01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 4: So I think a lot of it is.

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 33: About shoring up what we've currently got and ensuring that

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01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 33: we're sort of part of the conversation rather than being bypassed.

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 2: Are we all heavily heavily, heavily heavily reliant on China

1642
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: managing to make this thing work?

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 7: In a sense?

1644
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 33: I think actually what's come out in the conversation so

1645
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 33: far today has been a little bit of a focus on, well,

1646
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 33: how do we do it ourselves.

1647
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 4: A little bit more?

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 33: And that's not deliberately moving away from China or towards

1649
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 33: any other area. It's more saying, well, instead of sort

1650
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 33: of trying to second guess how every other country in

1651
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 33: the world might do their own thing, and the worries

1652
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 33: around all that risk, like you say, of having eggs

1653
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 33: all in the one basket, How can New Zealand, how

1654
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 33: can some of the other partners that we work with,

1655
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 33: like Arzion next year. It's fifty years of you know,

1656
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 33: engagement and diplomacy with the region. That sort of says

1657
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 33: that actually, we can work on some quite cool stuff

1658
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 33: together that we can think about. Particularly New Zealand's got

1659
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 33: some good stuff in the green energy space that Southeast

1660
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 33: Asia is looking at. So I think there's a lot

1661
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 33: where we're offering up our expertise. We obviously have a

1662
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 33: lot of people that come, a lot of travelers from

1663
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 33: New Zealand to head out to the region as well,

1664
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 33: and then it's that sort of the goods and the

1665
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 33: services trade. So I think there are some big opportunities.

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 33: I mean, you look at the numbers and I think

1667
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 33: this is the surprising challenge. New Zealand often doesn't think

1668
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 33: as much about sort of let's call it countries five

1669
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 33: through twenty in terms of our top ten are or

1670
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 33: our top twenty trade opportunities. We think of the few

1671
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 33: big ones at the top. It's actually still a lot

1672
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 33: of those slightly smaller but still pretty big trade opportunities

1673
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 33: that we could grow to a whole new level.

1674
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff. Brad enjoy yourself, really appreciate it. Thanks for

1675
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: talking to us From Malayia. That's Brad Awsome in for

1676
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: metric principal economists. Listen, there is a bit of a

1677
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: warning today that we may have to cool our jets

1678
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: a wee bit if we're getting too excited about an

1679
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: economic recovery ahead of Christmas. And I'll be honest with you,

1680
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: I was. I am one of those people because I've

1681
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 2: seen the ocr cuts and I thought, that's it, that's it.

1682
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: We're off, We're off and we're running, and it's going

1683
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: to be a good it's going to be a good

1684
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: Christmas for retailers. And I care deeply about my brother

1685
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 2: who's in that line of work. I thought he's going

1686
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: to make a mint this year. And then somebody text

1687
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: me and they were like, hey, by the way, have

1688
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: been speaking to the freight companies and they are not

1689
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: seeing that at all. There is no forward bookings, they

1690
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: are not seeing the freight moving and that's just been

1691
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: backed up to date. That person is right, they know

1692
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 2: who they are in Parliament. By the way, Freightways, one

1693
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: of the country's largest logistic firms, says they are still

1694
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: not seeing any green shoots in the local economy. They say,

1695
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: on the bright side, things are not getting worse for them,

1696
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: but they are not getting better at the moment, and

1697
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: they reckon it's going to be like this all of

1698
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: the first half of next year, and it's not until

1699
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 2: the second half of next year before we see growth,

1700
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: and then they are calling the growth subdued. So maybe

1701
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: I mean hope for the best kind of expect it

1702
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,560
Speaker 2: to be just a little bit bit per you know,

1703
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: six twenty two, whether.

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01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: It's macro, micro or just playing economics. It's all on

1705
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my Hr.

1706
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: The HR solution for busy SMEs U stogs b.

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Speaker 2: Federated Farmers with us in about twelve minutes time. Right now,

1708
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: it's six twenty four and our third quarter earning season

1709
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: in the US is kicked off with a hessen a rule,

1710
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: plenty of volatility and their stuff Bachelor from Milford Acid

1711
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: Management is what I say, stepf Hi he that okay,

1712
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: what's going on in the luxury good space because there

1713
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: was a lot of excitement after the China stimulus announcements,

1714
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: but that's now faded and it's been overshadowed by pretty

1715
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: weak earnings. Yeah, yeah, so that's right.

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01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 15: The one of the key areas of weakness for luxury

1717
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 15: goods companies over the last year has been China because

1718
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 15: it's historically been a very important part of the world

1719
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 15: for them, and of course they've got a week housing market,

1720
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 15: very poor consumer sentiment, and so the Chinese consumer hasn't

1721
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 15: been traveling or spending as much as they would historically.

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Speaker 15: If we look at Louis Vuitton Mouette Tennessee or ALVMH,

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01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 15: it's the largest luxury goods company in the world, and

1724
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 15: it's sort of considered a bell weather for the space.

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01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 15: Its share price was down about thirty percent between March

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 15: and September, but when the China stimulus was announced, the

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01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 15: market got really excited thinking that Chinese demand would be reignited,

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01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 15: and shares actually moved up twenty percent in just one week.

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01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 15: Following that move, the stock faded again because questions have

1730
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 15: started to arise around you know, how long it would

1731
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 15: for the stimulus to boost demand and by how much,

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01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 15: because it's likely more targeted at a lower income consumer,

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01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 15: which isn't the typical luxury goods customer. And then you

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01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 15: mentioned earnings, so yeah, it was a pretty poor set

1735
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 15: of numbers. It's key division, fashion and leather Goods had

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01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 15: revenue four five percent in the quarter, and that was

1737
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 15: the first quarterly declined since two thousand and nine if

1738
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 15: you exclude COVID, So shares fell four percent, and it

1739
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 15: dragged a bunch of other luxury names down on the

1740
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 15: day too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what about the semiconductors, because it sounds

1742
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 2: like there's been some winners and losers there as well.

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01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, so that's been an interesting space last week. ASML,

1744
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 15: now this is a company that provides equipment to the

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01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 15: big semiconductor manufacturers. They released their results and showed a

1746
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 15: miss on orders as well as a reduction to their

1747
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 15: twenty twenty five expectations. So shares were down with fifteen

1748
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 15: percent on the day, and it caused a bit of

1749
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 15: concern that this AI boom might be starting to fizzle out.

1750
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 15: But it does seem as though the weakness might might

1751
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,839
Speaker 15: have been just sort of specific customers or company factors,

1752
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 15: because just a few days later, TSMC, which is one

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01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 15: of ASML's customers and is the largest semiconductor manufacturer in

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01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 15: the world, they reported a record third quarter, So it

1755
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 15: indicated that, you know, the AI boom is still alive

1756
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 15: and well, and so TSMC shares rallied ten percent on

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01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 15: the day.

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01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, any bright spots in the evening season so far

1759
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so TSMC is one. But also the big US

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01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 15: banks reported very strong results. They're seeing some green shoots

1762
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 15: come through for capital markets. If you look at Morgan Stanley,

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01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 15: they said, you know, we're in the early stages of

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01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 15: the multi year capital markets recovery, and so corporates are

1765
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 15: getting more comfortable thinking about mergers and acquisitions or raising equity,

1766
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 15: all of which drives those big banks investment banking fees.

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01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 15: And another stockworth mentioning is Netflix, so which you know

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 15: their shares were up eleven percent after it reported most

1769
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 15: profitable quarter ever and despite subscriber growth actually slowing, Netflix

1770
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 15: still has very attractive opportunities to boost profits through either

1771
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 15: it's new ad supported membership model or price increase.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating stuff. Steph thank you for runningus. Or its

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01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: Stephanie Bachelor Milford Asset Management. What about this, Heather logistical?

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01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: This is reed Travis Scott and the concert that's been

1775
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: moved forward from Thursday to Wednesday. Here the logistical means

1776
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: that the person booking everything in the USA didn't realize

1777
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 2: that New Zealand is actually twenty four hours ahead in time,

1778
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: so they stuffed up so nothing's changed. So Travis is

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01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: still turning up on the day. This is the imagine

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: if that was true, Travis is still turning up on Wednesday,

1781
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 2: but they just had the No, it can't be because

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01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: Wednesday is Wednesday's the thirtieth here, it's the thirtieth there,

1783
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: unleas well, look stupid if things have happened. Ay, imagine

1784
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: if it was just that they were like, yes, the

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01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: thirty first, No, it's not. Headline's next.

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01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs the Been Corporates, The Business Hour with

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01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Heather Duplic Allen's and my HR the.

1788
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 4: HR Solution for Busy smys on News Talk ZB.

1789
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,879
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to go to Gavin Gray in the UK. Shortly.

1790
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: Richard Preval has written a piece which I think answers

1791
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: the question I wanted to have answered, which is how

1792
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: does Chris Luxen turn around his unpopularity in the polls?

1793
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: And I think he's actually given Chris Lucksen some excellent tips.

1794
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run you through that shortly. Twenty three away

1795
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: from seven.

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01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: Ever, Duplicy Allen now otago.

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Speaker 2: Regional Council has been forced been forced to postpone its

1798
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 2: land and Water plan after a last minute law changed

1799
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: by the government. Federated Farmers had raised this with us

1800
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 2: actually a long time ago. They were really worried about this.

1801
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: Several aspects of the plan the group didn't like. The

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01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: Government had been asking Otago Regional Council just to hold

1803
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: fire on the plan because they were coming up with

1804
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: a new National policy statement for freshwater management. But after

1805
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: the council continued just carried on working on the plan anyway,

1806
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: the government amended the Resource Minute Management Act to force

1807
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: them to stop. Luke kin A's Federated Farmer's Otago president,

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01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: he joins me, Now, hey, Luke, why was it that

1809
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: Otago Regional Council was ignoring the government and just carrying on.

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01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 14: Oh.

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Speaker 34: Look, realistically, you'd have to ask a few of those

1812
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 34: councilors why they were so adamant. But it appears that

1813
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 34: they had far more alignment with the previous government than

1814
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 34: the current one.

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01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, all that explains a lot. But they

1816
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 2: had been warned, right, they had been told by the

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01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: current government, don't do anything. We're going to amend the thing.

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01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a change for you just don't don't

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01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: do it and they carry it on anyway.

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Speaker 34: Yeah, yeah, well, and that's exactly right. And to be fear,

1821
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 34: common sense just wasn't. Wasn't there a lot of a

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 34: lot of this planning and procedure was certainly not in

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01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 34: place to even let the plan note for it.

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Did you guys have to lobby the current government to

1825
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: gazette to force their hand.

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Yes, we did it.

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Speaker 34: And actually, to be perfectly honest to you, you were

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01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 34: one of the first kind of news outlets that picked

1829
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 34: this up. And we'd have to thank you and all

1830
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 34: the Tiger farmers would have to thank you and your

1831
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 34: radio show for spreading this far and wide, which helped

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01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 34: give us a voice and raising our concerns.

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Speaker 2: What was it that you you're welcome, by the way,

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01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: What was it that you were worried about? In particular?

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01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 34: Originally it was around their interpretation for tomato to why

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01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 34: and a lot of the stock exclusion where the counselors

1837
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 34: were heading in was a very drastic measure and not

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01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 34: science based and not practical by any means. So we

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01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 34: just thought they needed to halt and let the policy

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01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 34: changes take place and then we'll reassess with it.

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01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys have talked a bit of a

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01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,520
Speaker 2: fair bit about stock exclusion. Is that stock exclusion from waterways?

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01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 34: Yeah, so they were going to go well and over

1844
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 34: and above the national regulations and and bring in sheep

1845
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 34: includers into that stock conclusion, which was just yeah, becoming

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 34: real untenable as to.

1847
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 4: The cost effectiveness of doing it.

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01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 34: Like the Farmer's by all means, there's a lot of

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01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:16,759
Speaker 34: good work going on and we don't want to pollute

1850
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 34: the waterways by any means, but they having blanket rules

1851
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 34: doesn't almost fix any problems.

1852
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 2: So how long before we actually get the current government's plan?

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01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 34: From my understanding, their fairway through this. The timeline has

1854
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 34: been pushed out a year or is that thirteen months,

1855
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 34: but signals are that within the next six months will

1856
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 34: have a pretty good indication of where this stuff's going

1857
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 34: to go. The final detail might not be there yet,

1858
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 34: but the plan can then be adjusted and we can

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01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 34: move on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with it, hey, Luke, thank you, I

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01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Mate. That's Luke Caine, Federated Farmer as

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01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: a Tigo president. All right, here we go. Richard Prebble

1863
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 2: how the Prime Minister Chris Luxen can turn around his

1864
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 2: dire ratings. Richard Prebble has pointed out that Chris Luxen

1865
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: is the most unpopular elected prime minister since Jim Bolger,

1866
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: and if you follow politics, its probably occurred to you

1867
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: that he is quite bolduresque in his unpopularity. This is

1868
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: what Richard Prebble says he needs to do, turn his

1869
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: weakness into his strength. Dancing on TikTok and glad handing

1870
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: foreign leaders is not working. Say I'm not a politician,

1871
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm a businessman. I have come into politics to fix

1872
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: the country. Luxon must sell his achievements. He should claim

1873
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,839
Speaker 2: that only someone with his CEO experience could have created

1874
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 2: a stable government out of a six party MMP parliament.

1875
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: It has the advantage of being true. Before Luxon was

1876
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: leader of the National Caucus was dysfunctional. He leads a

1877
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: three party coalition that is more stable and achieving more

1878
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: than Labour's one party government. Luckson's innovation of ninety day

1879
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: action plans is working. Probably is no one fears Luxon.

1880
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: If Luxin was as ruthless to those who are incompetent

1881
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: or worse, acting in bad faith as he is to

1882
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: his own MPs who make mistakes, he would command respect.

1883
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Here's the real recipe, good policy, successfully implement implemented as

1884
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 2: the best politics. Respect and results, not popularity, drives the

1885
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: preferred prime minister. Poul And I think what he's done here,

1886
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: I totally totally agree with Richard. What Richard has done

1887
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: here is explained to you what I was trying to

1888
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: explain to you. But he's done it a lot better.

1889
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: It's about authenticity. Luckson's problem is he looks like a

1890
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: tryhard because he is trying really hard. Right, He's doing

1891
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: all the social media staff and he's doing all this

1892
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 2: kind of being nice and trying to make Mike like

1893
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: him on the Hosking Breakfas show. Blah blah blah. He's

1894
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 2: trying really, really hard. It's not authentic. We can see

1895
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 2: through it, right, every single one of us read's body language,

1896
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: listens to language tone every single day thousands of times. Right,

1897
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: We're all super tuned to see when somebody's being real

1898
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 2: and when someone's putting it on. So he can't pull

1899
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: the wool over the eyes of the voters. He's lacking

1900
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 2: an authenticity. And what Richard says is his authenticity is

1901
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: actually that he's a businessman, actually that he's a manager,

1902
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: and so he just needs to lean into that. Stop

1903
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: trying to be a popular prime minister, Stop trying to

1904
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: be a popular politician. Just be like, do you know

1905
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 2: what I am. I'm a business guy. I'm here to

1906
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 2: do business. Do the business and we will probably actually

1907
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: respect that and like that, eighteen away from seven.

1908
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1909
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Hither Duper c Allen and my

1910
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: HR the HR solution for busy Smy's on newstalk Zibby.

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Speaker 2: It's a seven. Gavin Gray UK corresponds with us. Now

1912
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 2: even in Gavin, Hi there, Gavin, how is this going down?

1913
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: The news that you've got Labor Party people in the

1914
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: UK going over to assist the Kamala Harris campaign in

1915
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: the US presidential election.

1916
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 35: Yeah, quite a shock and certainly not what Donald Trump

1917
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 35: is very happy with. The Prime Minister here desperately trying

1918
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 35: to play it all down, saying that he had only

1919
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 35: recently met Donald Trump for a reconstructive dinner. He's never

1920
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 35: met Kamala Harris, but he has met Joe Biden numerous times.

1921
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 35: But the allegations are that, according to the Trump campaign

1922
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 35: that has filed in complaint with the Federal Electoral Commission,

1923
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 35: that this sort of foreign interference has come from the UK,

1924
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 35: and that is because the head of operations for the

1925
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 35: Labor Party that's the party of government, posted on social

1926
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 35: media that she had quote ten spots available for anyone

1927
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 35: willing to travel to North Carolina to campaign for Kamala Harris,

1928
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 35: adding we will sort out your housing. She said she

1929
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 35: had around one hundred current and former party staff heading

1930
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Speaker 35: to America before polling day. Now this post on LinkedIn

1931
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Speaker 35: has since been deleted. And foreign nationals are really permitted

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Speaker 35: to service volunteers on campaigns in America, but as long

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Speaker 35: as they are not compensated, and that's according to the

1934
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Speaker 35: Federal Election Commission rules. And so the complaint by Donald

1935
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 35: Trump and his campaign. He's both pretty pointed and quite

1936
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 35: theatrical as well, referring obliquely, I think to American independence

1937
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 35: and the War of Independence two hundred and fifty years ago.

1938
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Speaker 35: But either way, yeah, our minister I think desperately trying

1939
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Speaker 35: to play this down, saying they're doing it as volunteers

1940
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Speaker 35: in their spare time, but others are thinking what on

1941
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 35: earth are our government and machinations doing with this? In

1942
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Speaker 35: the American election.

1943
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Speaker 2: Well, the trouble for Keir Starmer at this stage I

1944
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Speaker 2: would have thought, is that odds on Trump's going to win.

1945
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Speaker 2: And then and Trump. Trump is like a crazy guy, right,

1946
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Speaker 2: he has he has deep, deep feels about things. So

1947
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Speaker 2: how on earth is he going to get on with

1948
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Speaker 2: Kia when they are two world leaders?

1949
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Speaker 35: Yeah, exactly, It's going to be very interesting. And as

1950
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Speaker 35: you said, you know, he didn't need a long memory

1951
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Speaker 35: to remember this if he does get into power. So

1952
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Speaker 35: I think, yeah, a lot of concern about, you know

1953
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Speaker 35: the fact that Keir Starmer's volunteers within the party have

1954
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 35: potentially plunged this country into a lot worse relationship with

1955
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Speaker 35: America should Donald Trump become a president.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. You ever had norovirus, Kevin.

1958
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Speaker 35: Hah, I've had something similar, whether it was never sort

1959
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 35: of diagnosed as being norovirus, and these of course that

1960
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 35: very very unpleasant bug that causes vomiting and diarrhea. It

1961
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 35: is easily spreadable in the winter months and because of

1962
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 35: course people tend to stay indoors, can affect peoples of

1963
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Speaker 35: all ages. But it is really very serious, particularly in

1964
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Speaker 35: this country and among the elderly. It is said that

1965
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Speaker 35: twelve thousand are admitted to hospital with the bug each year.

1966
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Speaker 35: There are eighty deaths and it costs the NHS National

1967
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Speaker 35: Health Service roughly two hundred million New Zealand dollars a

1968
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 35: year annually. And that's why a trial is being now

1969
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Speaker 35: undertaken with thousands of people to find out if a

1970
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Speaker 35: new vaccine could protect against noravirus.

1971
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Speaker 4: Indeed, they are looking for volunteers. It sounds a dodgy

1972
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 4: experience to me.

1973
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Speaker 35: I must say, volunteering for something like that, But there

1974
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 35: will be those keen to take.

1975
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Speaker 2: Part, and good on them, better them than us. Now, okay,

1976
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 2: explain to me how you managed, Like if you were

1977
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 2: going to order a pizza with a side of cocaine,

1978
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: did you have to know the special code or did

1979
01:32:59,240 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: it just runes?

1980
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 35: That is what prosecutors in Germany are saying. So in

1981
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 35: West Germany police raided a pizzeria in their jurisdiction and

1982
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 35: said that if you ordered number forty on the menu,

1983
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 35: it was code for a pizza with a side order

1984
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 35: of cocaine. Apparently, police went to detain the pizzeria manager

1985
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 35: at his apartment. The thirty six year old is reported

1986
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 35: to have thrown a bag of drugs out of the

1987
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,560
Speaker 35: window and there was a police officer underneath ready to

1988
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Speaker 35: catch it. Police found it is said one point six

1989
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 35: kilograms are cocaine, four hundred grams of cannabis and quite

1990
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 35: a lot of cash about half a million New Zealand

1991
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 35: dollars in cash at the apartment. The restaurant manager was

1992
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 35: released by police a few days later, but then reopened

1993
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 35: the restaurant, and then, it is alleged, continued to sell

1994
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 35: the drug and pizza combination.

1995
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Speaker 2: Quite an unusual order, that one, isn't it. I love it?

1996
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 2: The thought three everything Gvin, thank you, appreciate it. Gevin

1997
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Speaker 2: Gray are UK correspondent. Hither Richard Prebble is right. Luxon

1998
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 2: needs to take a leaf out of Wayne Brown's book,

1999
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 2: Jamie bang On. Wayne Brown is the perfect example, isn't

2000
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: he of someone who's not even trying to be popular.

2001
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 2: He's like, whatever, I don't care. I'm just here to

2002
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:17,759
Speaker 2: cut the costs, keep the rates down, do the business,

2003
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 2: strike some deals. And because he's actually getting stuff done,

2004
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 2: which is the stuff that Auckland has voted him in for.

2005
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean we'll see how it plays it. But I

2006
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 2: actually think he might be. He might be pleasantly surprising

2007
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of Auckland ratepayers at the moment. Now listen

2008
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: on another subject, How good is this for Northland? Just

2009
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 2: being named on National Geographics Best of the World twenty

2010
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 2: twenty five list. This is We get a lot of

2011
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 2: these lists, right, You get lists where travel editors like

2012
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 2: it's the best in the world, gay and you're like,

2013
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 2: I've never heard of you before, but you've heard of

2014
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 2: National Geographic. This is their best of twenty twenty five

2015
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: list and it's only got twenty five places on it,

2016
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 2: so that is pretty exceptional. Twenty five destinations hand packed

2017
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 2: by the publications, explorers, photographers and editors. Only one place

2018
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 2: in New Zealand has made it on the list, only

2019
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 2: two places in Oceania. The one place two places are

2020
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 2: obviously Northland, and the other ones the Murray River in Australia.

2021
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 2: International travelers landing in Auckland, they say, usually heads south,

2022
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 2: but that is a mistake. The little visited Northland region

2023
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 2: has fascinating wildlife and warm waters that offer excellent diving,

2024
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 2: especially in the Poor Knights Marine Reserve. Many for species

2025
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: in the reserve are found nowhere else in the country.

2026
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: On land normally elusive and threatened, Kiwis are abundant thanks

2027
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: to Kiwi Coast, a coalition of more than two hundred

2028
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 2: and fifty community lead conservation projects that aims to create

2029
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 2: the first protected corridor for New Zealand's beloved national animal, anyway,

2030
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: that bird. They go on and go on and go on.

2031
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 2: And they're right though, aren't they completely underappreciated part of

2032
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand. We get that little highway going between Auckland

2033
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 2: and Northland, you know, open it up for everybody nine

2034
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: away from seven, whether.

2035
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:54,600
Speaker 4: It's macrove, MicroB or just plain economics. It's all on

2036
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,560
Speaker 4: the Business Hour with Heather duple c Allens and my

2037
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 4: HR the HR platform for us.

2038
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: The Northland is beautiful, but unfortunately very threatening. That's an

2039
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 2: ominous text, also quite mysterious. Now Barack Obama's been doing

2040
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: a thing, as isn't he.

2041
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 21: My palms are sweating these week parms a heaven Bama,

2042
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 21: I'm sweater runner man's begetna.

2043
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm nervous, but I'm a surface. I'm a tom and

2044
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 2: run it to drop bombs, but.

2045
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 6: I keep bomb forget it.

2046
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 4: Dun dun d d d d D.

2047
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 7: I thought I then was gonna be perfune, I was

2048
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 7: gonna jump up.

2049
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 10: So yeah, if you recognize those words, you're like, oh,

2050
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,839
Speaker 10: that sounds familiar. Yes, that was the lyrics of eminem

2051
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 10: song Lose Yourself from the eight Mile soundtrack. And it's

2052
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 10: because Eminem and Barack Obama both spoke at the same

2053
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 10: campaign of in for Kamala Harrison Detroit, and I suppose

2054
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 10: Eminem is a hard act for even the former president

2055
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 10: to follow, so he busted that out.

2056
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Barack Obama is the only dad in the world who

2057
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 2: can do a cover of Eminem and it not be embarrassed.

2058
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 10: I say you what, I bet he can do all

2059
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 10: three verses.

2060
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 2: I bet he can do the whole so probably the

2061
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 2: whole album. Actually, he's cool. One of my friends met

2062
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Barack Obama and like, I don't know if to this,

2063
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 2: and that was years ago. I mean, that would have

2064
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,560
Speaker 2: been like ten years ago and to this day, I

2065
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 2: don't know if she's come down from it. She thinks

2066
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 2: he's the most incredible human being. She was like, I

2067
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 2: couldn't stop staring at him. It was he isn't He

2068
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 2: is a very, very very incredible human being. Anyway, listen

2069
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 2: before we get too far down the Barack Obama hole.

2070
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 2: If you've been following the Air New Zealand stunt with

2071
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 2: a giant lolly ji, I can now tell you how

2072
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 2: many lollies there were in there. Seven hundred and twenty

2073
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 2: nine thousand, three hundred and seventy and the game was

2074
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 2: to try to guess seven hundred and twenty nine, three

2075
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy. Nobody guessed it. Somebody guessed seven hundred

2076
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 2: and twenty nine thousand, three hundred and seventy four, so

2077
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 2: there were only four off, which is incredible. Somebody needs

2078
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 2: to give that genius from Mount monganuwiir job. They win

2079
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 2: the prize of fifty thousand air points dollars. That's that is.

2080
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: Do you know what, Nick?

2081
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 29: Mind?

2082
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 2: The fifty thousand air points dollars. They win the prize

2083
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 2: of guessing seven hundred and twenty blah blah blah. That's amazing.

2084
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 10: That's rain Man in real life.

2085
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 2: That's weird.

2086
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 10: And with Barack Obama's little cover version there, I think

2087
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 10: we'll play the original as well. We'll play Lose Yourself

2088
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 10: by eminem to players else tonight.

2089
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 2: Very good enjoy see you tomorrow News Talk Zip fourth.

2090
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Speaker 31: The Too Dog's Case, I was playing in the beginning

2091
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 31: to the Moodog chase.

2092
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 4: I've been sued up and.

2093
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 31: Spit out in Bodog stage, but I kept priming and

2094
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 31: step brighten the next sight Fort's believe somebody's paining the

2095
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 31: pie paper before the pain inside amplified by.

2096
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 9: The fact that I can't get fined with my nine dog.

2097
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 17: Five and I can't provide the right.

2098
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 31: Type for life for my family because man, he's tied

2099
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 31: amphis stands on my typer and it's no movie, It's

2100
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 31: nor makid fight for this is my life when these

2101
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 31: times are so hard that it's getting even hardest round

2102
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 31: of feet in one of my seed. Plus see that's

2103
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 31: on a corner between being a father and a preemon

2104
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 31: on a baby Mama.

2105
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 4: Thomas careaming on.

2106
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,520
Speaker 7: It too much for me to want to stay on spot.

2107
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 31: Undo the damn on that, and he's cutting me to

2108
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,600
Speaker 31: the point I'm make a snail. I've got it's a

2109
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 31: formulator plot or hit up in Jailer's shot. Success is

2110
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 31: my only mothering options. Failures not Mama love you, But

2111
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 31: this trailer's got to go. I cannot go hold and

2112
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 31: sailing's line, and here I go. It's my shotpeat filming

2113
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 31: that maybe the only opportunity that I got you. Matter

2114
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 31: ruis is counting the music the mom makes your home,

2115
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 31: makes you never let it go?

2116
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 13: Region, what shot?

2117
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 15: Do not?

2118
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 29: And it's a chance to blow.

2119
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 7: This opportunity goes once in a lifetime.

2120
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 16: Matter ruses tuning the music the mom makes you home, gets.

2121
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 9: You better, never let it go?

2122
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 4: Region, what shot not?

2123
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 15: It's a chance to blow.

2124
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 7: This opportunity goes once in a lifetime.

2125
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 9: You better.

2126
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 4: You knew what you set your mind too many.

2127
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