Speaker 1: With the Heads Podcast Network.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to Slow It Down. I'm your host,
Speaker 2: PJ Harding, and this podcast, if you're you here, is
Speaker 2: all about how we can find more peace in the chaos.
Speaker 2: I think I learned this year as I went back
Speaker 2: into work full time juggling a toddler, that life is.
Speaker 1: Just going to be chaotic for a while.
Speaker 2: And so instead of trying to avoid the chaos, I
Speaker 2: want to embrace the chaos, but find ways that we
Speaker 2: can stay sane and grounded through these years. Today on
Speaker 2: the show, I am joined by the incredibly successful Jules Matthews.
Speaker 2: She is the founder of Two Islands, which is a
Speaker 2: range of pure potent supplements that enhance beauty, gut health, sleep,
Speaker 2: stress relief, and more.
Speaker 1: She's the mum of.
Speaker 2: Three gorgeous children, including twins, so she's got a bit
Speaker 2: on her plate. And in this episode, do we dive
Speaker 2: into how Jewels manages her week?
Speaker 1: Literally? I want to dissect it.
Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by how people prioritize and organize.
Speaker 1: Are they, you know, really routine based? Do they go
Speaker 1: with the flow? Well? Jewels shares her experience.
Speaker 2: She also talks about what she's had to sacrifice along
Speaker 2: the way, what her non negogiables are, and what success
Speaker 2: means to her. I really hope you enjoyed this week's
Speaker 2: episode with Jills Matthews. Hey, Jiles, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for joining me on the podcast today.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Now I've caught you on a Monday morning when this
Speaker 2: is being recorded.
Speaker 1: What do your weekdays usually look like?
Speaker 3: Weekdays normally?
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I'm in the office four days a week,
Speaker 4: so Monday to Thursday, and then I have I'm at
Speaker 4: home with my quins on Friday. So yeah, just get
Speaker 4: to work as early as I can. Some mornings as eight,
Speaker 4: some mornings it's nine, and then just at the office
Speaker 4: for the day. So meetings, try and fit in at
Speaker 4: least one gym class. I've actually gotten better at planning
Speaker 4: my meetings and my day around the gym, Like I'll
Speaker 4: lock in my classes for the week and I'm like
Speaker 4: I'm out, Like that's it kind of a non negotiable
Speaker 4: now that I've just started doing. Otherwise it just falls
Speaker 4: to the wayside. And then I leave around four and
Speaker 4: I go and pick the kids up from daycare, get
Speaker 4: them home for the torturess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then normally, you know, bombs and washing or
Speaker 2: to get back on my laptop and do some emails.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's pretty the days of full transfit as
Speaker 4: much as I can. But there's definitely a branch being
Speaker 4: at the office, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: So routine, Like, have you always been quite so?
Speaker 2: Are you someone that prioritizes routine or is that something
Speaker 2: more recently in your life?
Speaker 3: No, Like routine keeps me kind of sane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like when I'm at work, it's chaos and you know,
Speaker 4: problems flight at me.
Speaker 3: I'm putting up fires all the time.
Speaker 4: So if I can have my week days as structured
Speaker 4: as possible with routine, I know what's happening. That kind
Speaker 4: of helps me know what's coming up next to a
Speaker 4: point like I'm fine with change and I'm fine if
Speaker 4: I'm like pervot and thanks flight at me from different angles,
Speaker 4: but just having that No, I'm going to the office
Speaker 4: Monday to Thursday, having an idea of what meetings I've got.
Speaker 3: That's what I need to like my mental sanity.
Speaker 1: And what about your weekends?
Speaker 2: Are they little bit more lucy goos or do you
Speaker 2: also need a bit of a plan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, definitely And I'm very much a shon body.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I prioritize the kids on the weekend because they're
Speaker 4: a daycare for most of the week, so it's just
Speaker 4: family time doing things with the kids. But definitely we're
Speaker 4: at the age I have to get them out of
Speaker 4: the house because they just fight.
Speaker 3: So it's a zoo.
Speaker 4: Or really awesome things like that. But my life now
Speaker 4: is like no time for social It's the kids are
Speaker 4: first and then work and then I'm like socials kind of.
Speaker 3: I talked to my friends, I may not see them
Speaker 3: as much.
Speaker 4: I'm not into going out and partying anymore because hungover
Speaker 4: when your parents a parent, you couldn't have at you
Speaker 4: couldn't ask for anything more more horrific. So yeah, it's
Speaker 4: just family time seeing my parents going on plate dds.
Speaker 2: That was going to be my next question around that
Speaker 2: social aspect of your life, because you are so busy,
Speaker 2: you're obviously the founder of Tow Islands, You've got three children,
Speaker 2: and you have to make sacrifices in these seasons. There
Speaker 2: are times or you just can't do it all. And
Speaker 2: did you find that kind of hard that transition into
Speaker 2: you know, your business absolutely killing it and your kids
Speaker 2: at what point did you realize that you had to
Speaker 2: say goodbye to some of your old ways.
Speaker 4: I think it just kind of came naturally, because again,
Speaker 4: when you're a parent, you don't like person me. I
Speaker 4: do not want to be hungover, and when I would
Speaker 4: go out on a party, I would be at the
Speaker 4: opposite Monday, and my brain's not at full capacity, like
Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little bit dummy. So I definitely prioritize
Speaker 4: like sleep and just keeping my brain as sharp as possible.
Speaker 3: So it was like, okay, here are the kids.
Speaker 4: By to some of the social life for now, and
Speaker 4: like you say, it's a season, right like like forever, people.
Speaker 3: Come a time when the kids are a bit older
Speaker 3: and they're a bit.
Speaker 4: More independent and not don't rely on me so much
Speaker 4: that I'll venture back out to the cloud maybe or
Speaker 4: you know, I still.
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
Speaker 1: I'm not an absolute yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I see my girlfriends, but it's not like it used
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: It's more long lunches, a more wholesome yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So when you say, you know, the sleep, are you
Speaker 2: in bed at a certain time every night?
Speaker 4: I try to be like sleeps the most important thing
Speaker 4: on my list of like wellness things that I try
Speaker 4: and prioritize.
Speaker 3: So yes, absolutely, Like ideally I'm.
Speaker 4: In bed by nine thirty, but it's really hard sometimes
Speaker 4: because you know, some nights the kids don't want to
Speaker 4: go to sleep, and they will, you know, it takes
Speaker 4: to like eight thirty and I'm rolling out of one
Speaker 4: of their rooms, and then I need some time to
Speaker 4: I don't know, clean the kitchen or if I just
Speaker 4: want to watch one episode of TV, have a bit
Speaker 4: of a chill out time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's all can all be different.
Speaker 4: But on the nights if I'm up and I'm like
Speaker 4: in bed at eleven, I definitely notice nex say, I
Speaker 4: just don't feel as switched on.
Speaker 2: And do you have like a remedy or something you
Speaker 2: go to in those days where you're feeling shit with
Speaker 2: you know, terrible sleep the night before. Do you have
Speaker 2: any little jewels hacks that we can tap into.
Speaker 4: Like always try and get some exercise in. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: absolutely helps. I try not to drink coffee.
Speaker 3: Because it just screws your adrenals, like it's just that
Speaker 3: little spike.
Speaker 4: Yes, the rest of the day can kind of go downhill. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just making sure I'm eating good food. But when I'm
Speaker 4: just so busy at the office, like I'm not, I
Speaker 4: don't really have time to think about being tired. It's
Speaker 4: just the day is so quick and so full of things.
Speaker 4: I don't really need to sit back and thank.
Speaker 3: God, I'm tired.
Speaker 4: It's almost like being in the office energizes me, being
Speaker 4: around other people energizes me.
Speaker 3: In the Senate, I think it would be very different.
Speaker 4: Yes, which crops all the stat of her moms, because
Speaker 4: like Friday at home with my girls is enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, love then, love my children. But man, it's hard.
Speaker 3: It's just all day people, are you?
Speaker 2: I think also just with the expectations of the times
Speaker 2: we're living in. You know, you are running a business
Speaker 2: and we don't have the villages that used to have,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And so there's so much
Speaker 2: expectation to be succeeding in all these kinds of areas
Speaker 2: to you, how do you kind of balance your success,
Speaker 2: like measure your success? When someone says what does success
Speaker 2: mean to you? How would you define it?
Speaker 4: What a success mean to me? Honestly, just been out
Speaker 4: at like having a business. It's I can come to
Speaker 4: it all this free day and I've you know, I've
Speaker 4: got my team and we're creating new products.
Speaker 3: I think long terms, what does success look like for me?
Speaker 4: Maybe been out of moved to another country with the kids,
Speaker 4: and being out of work somewhere else.
Speaker 3: I always sound like I just want to pack everything
Speaker 3: up and move to a little village in Italy and
Speaker 3: like work in a coffee shop. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 3: or like going to ballet for a half a year.
Speaker 4: Been able to do both, like spend more time with
Speaker 4: the kids probably and also been out of work at
Speaker 4: the same time, because both of those things are really
Speaker 4: important to me and what I love doing. It's just yeah,
Speaker 4: right now, that's so little and having them at home
Speaker 4: plus working and is not also I really have to
Speaker 4: separate the two, which is while on the weekend I
Speaker 4: like prioritize them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe yeah success, Yeah, moving to a little collision, Italy,
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2: What actually got you into the health industry in the
Speaker 2: first place, because it was you started studying nutrition after
Speaker 2: being in business, Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I studied, so I studied business and then I
Speaker 4: started I moved to Sydney and I started studying nutrition
Speaker 4: and I was a vegetarian, and I all like was
Speaker 4: making weird and wonderful recipes in the kitchen to accommodate.
Speaker 3: To my current diet.
Speaker 4: And then I just got really interested in the nutrition
Speaker 4: side of things and what different foods do do your
Speaker 4: body and how they can influence how you feel. And yeah,
Speaker 4: was in Sydney and I didn't really have to work,
Speaker 4: so I went and study, and yeah.
Speaker 2: Was there something that made you go, right, like I
Speaker 2: want to be healthy? Like do you know how sometimes
Speaker 2: people have those experiences in life, whether they know someone
Speaker 2: that gets really on Well, was it like that for
Speaker 2: you or were you just kind of really interested in
Speaker 2: being the best version of yourself?
Speaker 3: Well, like I.
Speaker 4: Became a vegetarian, but like ethical reasons, yes, So I
Speaker 4: just I'm not anymore, Like, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Was very much typical reasons.
Speaker 4: Like I would watch videos on YouTube of like whales,
Speaker 4: spingport and like horrific things.
Speaker 3: I'll talk to myself and I'm watching.
Speaker 4: Them, So I just, yeah, became vegetarian and then needed
Speaker 4: to make recipes. None of my family weren't so I
Speaker 4: would need to come up with recipes that fit into
Speaker 4: my lifestyle. And then yeah, I just kind of went
Speaker 4: from there really like I try all these weird like
Speaker 4: you know, the live and detop stufe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I remember.
Speaker 3: How is that even allowed?
Speaker 2: I know, I know times you know what, times have
Speaker 2: changed and there was a lot of that stuff back then,
Speaker 2: but equally now, like it's so hard to wait through
Speaker 2: all of the health and wellness information out there.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, do you have any taps on after being in
Speaker 2: the industry, people trying to work out what is the
Speaker 2: best thing for them.
Speaker 4: It's there's so much information out there, which on one
Speaker 4: hand is and it's so easily accessible, but you've got
Speaker 4: all different types of people preaching different things like carnival diet, vegan,
Speaker 4: you know, all the different things that you can do,
Speaker 4: and there's not one size that fits all. Right, I
Speaker 4: think we can all agree that eating less processed food,
Speaker 4: to sleep, drinking more water, exercising as much as we can,
Speaker 4: reducing alcohol consumption. I think we can all agree that
Speaker 4: doing more of that just you feel better mentally physically.
Speaker 3: But you know, as if a.
Speaker 4: Big and diet works for you, it's not going to
Speaker 4: work for everyone. Same with like carnivore, So I think
Speaker 4: just take from it what suits you, and like, I
Speaker 4: love trying I'll try all the wellness Dad's trends just
Speaker 4: because it's it interests me.
Speaker 3: And I love how something can make me feel.
Speaker 4: And I definitely know what works for me now, like
Speaker 4: to what briggers me to not feel great and what
Speaker 4: makes me feel a really good.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it is a real challenge.
Speaker 4: With people listening to information and thinking that that's taking
Speaker 4: it as gospel, yes, and being really having real tunnel
Speaker 4: vision and living in their kind of own echo chamber
Speaker 4: and not being open to trying other things or listening
Speaker 4: to information that potentially goes against a belief that they
Speaker 4: currently have.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, one hundred and with to Islands, was that
Speaker 2: kind of the inspiration behind it? You know, try it
Speaker 2: because you've obviously been interested in health. You just wanted
Speaker 2: to find the quickest way to make people feel better
Speaker 2: in a way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like learning about the body and how
Speaker 4: what we eat can have a real influence on how
Speaker 4: we feel.
Speaker 3: Really interested me.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, when I moved back to New Zealand
Speaker 4: after I started step, after I finished that in Sorry,
Speaker 4: I couldn't find a plant proteine that I love, So
Speaker 4: I was like okay, I'll make one, and is kind
Speaker 4: of how the brand started. And I also found it
Speaker 4: really frustrating when I was studying just how much like
Speaker 4: there's so much information out there, and some brands can
Speaker 4: really talk down to you or they try and be
Speaker 4: too clinical of science, and it's really hard for the
Speaker 4: average person to understand. So I wanted to really simplify things.
Speaker 4: And I guess yeah, part of it was a selfish
Speaker 4: reason that I couldn't find a product I really liked,
Speaker 4: so I wanted to make my own. I hadn't worked
Speaker 4: for someone for so long, I didn't want to work
Speaker 4: for anyone else. Yes, a few reasons why. And now
Speaker 4: again it is like, you know, the goal of the
Speaker 4: brand is just like to make people healthier, but whatever
Speaker 4: that looks like to you, because health is different to everyone, right,
Speaker 4: So just trying to make people feel better about themselves,
Speaker 4: you know, if you want to look better, whatever that is,
Speaker 4: and just creating products that are simple, easy to understand
Speaker 4: and can fit into your existing lifestyle.
Speaker 2: You must be pretty resilient and strong to run a
Speaker 2: business like I can imagine there's a lot of setbacks
Speaker 2: and things that make you question your path. Have there
Speaker 2: been a few moments where you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do this all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us some examples, especially.
Speaker 4: At the moment, like things are like things are challenging
Speaker 4: in the market.
Speaker 3: We're seeing lots of businesses closing down.
Speaker 4: People being made redundant, people not having as much you know,
Speaker 4: discretionary income. So it is, you know, it's a real challenge.
Speaker 4: And sometimes I'm like, someone give us some good news, right,
Speaker 4: and like it's it's really hard for people. And yes,
Speaker 4: but especially with supplements as we look more into the
Speaker 4: export market, like it's such a challenge with all the
Speaker 4: regulatory pieces in different.
Speaker 3: Markets, and I'm like why did I make a supplement?
Speaker 3: Like why can I not just have a food? It's
Speaker 3: so much easier.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's a lot of times I'm like why
Speaker 4: am I doing this? But you know, I really do
Speaker 4: love what I do and I'm so grateful that I
Speaker 4: get to do it.
Speaker 2: And what do you do when you have those moments
Speaker 2: of self doubt and you're like I just got on
Speaker 2: to it, Like is there.
Speaker 1: Someone you turn to? Do you over a walk? Like
Speaker 1: how do you get that motivation?
Speaker 4: Bag? Yeah, I think just stepping away from things and
Speaker 4: you're just talking to friends. I've got people that I
Speaker 4: will like sound boards, so I'll just call them in
Speaker 4: chat things through, or just even talk to my team
Speaker 4: because we're kind of very open and transparent with what
Speaker 4: is shared. Like we're a small team and we know
Speaker 4: each other and what we do on the weekends and
Speaker 4: talk about our personal life. So even if it's just God,
Speaker 4: this is so hard, and we just kind of sit
Speaker 4: down and talk about things and how we can come
Speaker 4: to a solution together.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, exercise and talking things through.
Speaker 4: And I think that's one thing that I've learned with
Speaker 4: age is that people are always.
Speaker 3: Willing to offer advice.
Speaker 4: And talk things through with you instead of I used
Speaker 4: to kind of hide things away, not share things.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I definitely learned like.
Speaker 4: Just don't don't hold it and talk to people about
Speaker 4: it because people are always happy to help support you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there a cloak that you sometimes refer back to
Speaker 2: or some kind of like mandra in life that when
Speaker 2: times you get to do get tolf that you think, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: this is good, don't forget it.
Speaker 3: I'm like I.
Speaker 4: Always say to people, like my mantra is this is temporary.
Speaker 4: Like that comes especially in business and in parenting, Like
Speaker 4: some nights when I'm like trying to get a child
Speaker 4: down and it's been like an hour, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's like, say, calm as temporary, this is not going
Speaker 4: to be. It's not going to be like the spare bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's got me through a lot of really challenging.
Speaker 3: Days like this is temporary. It's like everything's the season.
Speaker 2: Right and so hard to remember in the moment though
Speaker 2: sometimes I'd have freaking just.
Speaker 1: I just felt so overwhelmed this morning.
Speaker 2: My toddler, bless him, here's the best, so much character,
Speaker 2: but because they just get so strong worled, and you
Speaker 2: just feel so overwhelmed. Sometimes you've got to be work
Speaker 2: at a certain time and the world feels like it's
Speaker 2: falling in and then you're like, hang on, I'm going
Speaker 2: to look back on this moment and wish that I
Speaker 2: could do it again. Like you know, it's it's so
Speaker 2: hard to try and be really present and grateful and
Speaker 2: those really overwhelming moments.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: No, I so can understand that. It is, like it's yeah,
Speaker 4: can be some days can be really really really challenging,
Speaker 4: but it's like, Okay, this is not going to last forever.
Speaker 4: It's not going to last forever, and it's my thing.
Speaker 4: It's just so important to be and if you if
Speaker 4: you do have a job and you are working, have
Speaker 4: a career, just to be like in a job that
Speaker 4: you like and that you love. Otherwise, if home's really hard,
Speaker 4: going to a job that you don't like.
Speaker 3: And I know that probably comes from a place of privilege, because.
Speaker 4: Not if everyone can do that and can work in
Speaker 4: a job that they love, they just have to get
Speaker 4: any job.
Speaker 3: But I think for me, especially when.
Speaker 4: Home is really challenging and the kids are top, I
Speaker 4: know that I've got my kind of little outlet of
Speaker 4: work and vice versa. When works for the card, I
Speaker 4: know I can go home to my babies and got
Speaker 4: them a Cardlin.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, what makes you the most proud?
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a careful I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, probably getting customer feedback from customers of how a
Speaker 4: product like we've got a lactation support product.
Speaker 3: It's our hero product. If you've got low milk supply,
Speaker 3: it helps supposed to milk supply.
Speaker 4: It's just one capsule a day, and the feedback we
Speaker 4: get from that is incredible. And it could be a
Speaker 4: mum was really stressed out and had anxiety because she
Speaker 4: was not able to breastpait her child, or she was going.
Speaker 3: Back to work and married she would be able to pump.
Speaker 4: So the feedback from that, for example, makes me really
Speaker 4: proud because I know as a mom myself had three
Speaker 4: children and tried or breasted them that it can be
Speaker 4: so hard. A solution to that, like, I'm like, yeah, great,
Speaker 4: that that makes me proud.
Speaker 2: Well, those days are so vulnerable. Those days are so
Speaker 2: vulnerable for new mums. Jes, I want you to paint
Speaker 2: like your perfect dreamy day. You get to slow it down,
Speaker 2: you get to do whatever you like. What does the
Speaker 2: day look like for you?
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, it's sunny. I wake up, it's blue sky.
Speaker 3: Are you really affected by the weather.
Speaker 1: I am at the moment. I am craving spring in summer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so affected by the weather, like waking up blue sky.
Speaker 4: The children wake up and are in a good mood,
Speaker 4: and it's probably going for a walk together, going and
Speaker 4: having something delicious to eat, dropping the kids off to
Speaker 4: my parents, going for a massage or something, just having
Speaker 4: some time along to myself.
Speaker 3: And then just being back at home, Like I.
Speaker 4: Really am a hummon body and just love being hottering
Speaker 4: around the house.
Speaker 3: Which sounds probably people are like, you're.
Speaker 4: So lame that when you do get older and you
Speaker 4: are a parent, been able to have those.
Speaker 3: Slow days with your kids.
Speaker 4: It's like it's really important because they are so little
Speaker 4: and not only little for a short time.
Speaker 2: How important is it creating like good energy in the home.
Speaker 1: Are you big on that? Yes, talk me throughout. What
Speaker 1: do you do?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, it's always looks like a tornado as in my house,
Speaker 4: and that really stretches me in and I try, I
Speaker 4: try not to worry so much.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, the house doesn't need to be that
Speaker 3: you can just hang out with a child.
Speaker 4: But for me mentally, and I know this is the
Speaker 4: case for so many other people, so many of my friends.
Speaker 4: Can you can feel really overwhelmed when the house is
Speaker 4: me see, and I'm like, I can't go to bed
Speaker 4: unless something's everything's clean.
Speaker 3: So just having the house as clean as possible.
Speaker 4: Like fresh sheets on the bed, the kitchens clean, the
Speaker 4: fridge is store and just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that helps me overwhelms what I never used to
Speaker 2: think that affected me.
Speaker 1: That's like a mum thing. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: Is that like about it when I was playing.
Speaker 2: I know it's like the continuation of the nesting period
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you just have to feel like you
Speaker 2: have to get everything tidy.
Speaker 1: I just never feel like it's good enough, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I'm like I wish I could have a
Speaker 4: cleaner And I used to like think my mom was
Speaker 4: crazy when she was.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, do you have like one zen room in
Speaker 2: the house where you can retreat to?
Speaker 4: Oh, my bedroom for sure, yes, yes, like love my
Speaker 4: room and it needs to be clean and tidy and
Speaker 4: set up and the bed needs to be made. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Or in the garden, to be honest, like being outside
Speaker 4: in the garden.
Speaker 3: Yes, when it's nice, just go and hang out in
Speaker 3: the garden.
Speaker 2: I think it's really important finding like those simple luxuries
Speaker 2: that you can kind of weave throughout your day so
Speaker 2: amongst the.
Speaker 1: Chaos, you can be like, ah, that takes you back.
Speaker 2: Whether it's like a nice soap or like a nice
Speaker 2: linen on your beers, it's just those tiny simple things
Speaker 2: that kind of like bring a bit of sanity.
Speaker 4: Do you find that Yes, No, absolutely so, Like even
Speaker 4: getting home and having.
Speaker 3: A shower, yes, yeah, when all the kids are in
Speaker 3: bed and just being clean. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: And that again, I think that really is an age
Speaker 4: thing and it's making me feel really old.
Speaker 3: It is just you need that.
Speaker 2: I'm so so late. Are you a meditation kind of girl?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Do you know? I'm not.
Speaker 4: And I've tried to meditate, and so I probably should meditate,
Speaker 4: So I fa find it really hard.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I like, I.
Speaker 4: Don't even really like yoga like I need if I'm exercising,
Speaker 4: I really need to like sweat, and I love like
Speaker 4: high intensity workout like that's like I'm an act of laxa.
Speaker 3: I don't read books. I don't really sit and watch TV.
Speaker 4: Like I need to be doing things and that's what
Speaker 4: keeps me calm. So like I just love the chaos,
Speaker 4: like I need things to be busy and pull on
Speaker 4: and people are the wades and going.
Speaker 2: That's really no, it's not though, because like I think
Speaker 2: people get put off by meditation. They're like, there's something
Speaker 2: wrong with me that I can't do it. I don't
Speaker 2: know that there's one size fits all, Like yes, it
Speaker 2: can be very beneficial, but you might get exactly the
Speaker 2: same or even better, you know, pay off from a workout,
Speaker 2: And I think if that works for you, fing do it.
Speaker 1: There's no guilt bad things about that. That's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would listen to like the meditation lady Jennifer Person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3: A yoga nidra.
Speaker 4: Meditation talking at I've completely forgot what it's called, but
Speaker 4: I'll sometimes listen to her.
Speaker 3: Before I go to bed.
Speaker 2: So like that, you find the guy I had one
Speaker 2: slightly easier than just the silence of your brain where
Speaker 2: it starts going to wake up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I could.
Speaker 4: Some people do meditate, and I know that it's absolutely
Speaker 4: incredible for you, and I love that there's more research
Speaker 4: coming out about how beneficial it is. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: not that I've set time aside to really try and
Speaker 4: be good at.
Speaker 1: So you've obviously achieved a lot in your life.
Speaker 2: Do you find that you're a real big goal setter
Speaker 2: and manifesto like, do you have kind of discipline behind
Speaker 2: all of the stuff that you're achieving? Are you quite
Speaker 2: intentional with it or do you find that this is
Speaker 2: sort of just come as you've kind of followed what
Speaker 2: feels good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, that I'm not like want to write things
Speaker 4: down in terms of goals or no, I'm probably a
Speaker 4: bit more onehanded. Really interesting, yeah again, and I think
Speaker 4: that just is why I kind of love the chaos.
Speaker 4: I love just things being thrown at me, problem solution,
Speaker 4: problem solution, Like that's just.
Speaker 3: How I love to operate.
Speaker 4: So no, but I definitely have people on my team
Speaker 4: who are like that, and I think that's is the
Speaker 4: best balance. So I'll have ideas and I'm like, it's
Speaker 4: just like the other day, there was a product that
Speaker 4: we I was like, hey, why don't we make this?
Speaker 4: And we've already started formulating and looking at packaging and
Speaker 4: it wasn't even part of like our MPD and our
Speaker 4: MPD pipeline, but I was like, why.
Speaker 3: Don't we do this? And we're like, okay, cool, and
Speaker 3: we can bick.
Speaker 4: My agile and our team and do things pretty quickly
Speaker 4: and change our mind on the things if we want.
Speaker 3: So, No, I do not.
Speaker 1: Have that's interesting.
Speaker 2: I would have thought that you're a big goal setter
Speaker 2: looking at you, so that's that's funny. Do you have
Speaker 2: like quite a strong instinct, like good gutting instinct.
Speaker 4: Most of the time, I've definitely done things and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that was the wrong idea, like that I should have
Speaker 4: not done that.
Speaker 3: But most the time, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 4: Definitely act on like this doesn't feel right, or let's
Speaker 4: look into this more, or yeah, but I'm definitely like,
Speaker 4: let's just most of the time take a risk, just
Speaker 4: do it, especially if it's something that's low risks, like
Speaker 4: why don't we just.
Speaker 3: Give it a try. Whereas I've got someone on the
Speaker 3: team who's very risk adverse. So it's just a really
Speaker 3: good balance.
Speaker 4: And it's me sometimes because I am quite left a
Speaker 4: field and sometimes I need someone to bring me back
Speaker 4: down to earth.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, no, let's think about this first. So yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I love that you think that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, fabit, Well, I don't know, you just you
Speaker 2: kind of I just thought maybe you'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what I want to achieve with the next
Speaker 2: couple of years. But I love that you've kind of
Speaker 2: just rolled, you know, by the city of your pants
Speaker 2: and just go on with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have big plans to.
Speaker 4: Like some people start businesses and they want to sell
Speaker 4: it in five years or something, whereas I've never seen
Speaker 4: the plan with me I didn't really have a plan
Speaker 4: when I started to Island, so it was okay, I'm
Speaker 4: just speaking of protein, and here we are nearly seven
Speaker 4: years later.
Speaker 3: It was never let's.
Speaker 4: Create this and sell it. There's nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 4: of course, but that was just not how I saw
Speaker 4: things panning out. And I think, just I love so
Speaker 4: love what I do, and I can see myself doing
Speaker 4: it forever, plus other things, these other things that I
Speaker 4: want to do in terms of businesses. But yeah, there's
Speaker 4: no like right on this data, I hope where our
Speaker 4: revenues up here and I'm going to sell it. I
Speaker 4: just keep building and keep adding more products, expanding into
Speaker 4: other markets. That's kind of as far as I've got
Speaker 4: with in terms of like goals of the business.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I love it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's obviously working very well for you. I'm going
Speaker 2: to wrap those podcasts up with a bit of advice
Speaker 2: that you would in part to your younger eighteen year
Speaker 2: old self, Jewels and what you would say, like, knowing
Speaker 2: everything that you've been through, what would be the biggest
Speaker 2: piece of advice you give to young James.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I was talking about with the
Speaker 4: friend the other day, because I was like, someone's like,
Speaker 4: would you have any more kids? And I was like,
Speaker 4: I absolutely would if they weren't so expensive.
Speaker 3: But I was like, I just don't think my boobs.
Speaker 1: Could oh oh god.
Speaker 4: Even yeah, my eighteen year OLDLF like enjoy your body,
Speaker 4: Like enjoy your body, you know. I was so hard
Speaker 4: on myself, and looking back, I was like, what was
Speaker 4: I worried about? Very yeah, very insecure about my body
Speaker 4: and how I looked, And I wish I didn't because
Speaker 4: when you're eighteen, you book, I mean you look. Yeah,
Speaker 4: everyone looks great at every age, but when you're eighteen,
Speaker 4: you're so you can be so hard on yourself and
Speaker 4: comparing yourself to other people, and like, just I should
Speaker 4: have enjoyed it, and also things get better, Like I
Speaker 4: think when I went to school, so many friends had
Speaker 4: plans and what they wanted to be when they were older,
Speaker 4: and I had no idea what I wanted to do,
Speaker 4: and I felt kind of a bit.
Speaker 3: Like an outcast, and like was this something wrong with me?
Speaker 4: Because I didn't know what I wanted to do and
Speaker 4: everyone else did, so like everything works.
Speaker 1: Out, I love.
Speaker 2: I had that exact same thought about the body thing
Speaker 2: the other day it was my birthday and all of
Speaker 2: these memories came off and I was like, I remember
Speaker 2: thinking I had such huge thighs, Dude, I was like
Speaker 2: so tight and toned and my skin was flawless.
Speaker 1: Like the things that you worry about and get caught
Speaker 1: up on. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's so shitty that it's not until ten years later
Speaker 2: that it really kicks and how good things were. And
Speaker 2: then you're like, well, shit, I don't appreciate this now,
Speaker 2: I'm never going to appreciate it.
Speaker 1: What's the point. But I'll say this, and I'll.
Speaker 2: Continue being really critical on myself, saying my head's really
Speaker 2: renkle today, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And this was before you know, like social media came about.
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine what it's going to be like
Speaker 4: the our kids when they're older and the expectations that
Speaker 4: they put on themselves. So yeah, I hope that there's
Speaker 4: AE and things change, same.
Speaker 1: Change, But I feel like the system just needs to crash.
Speaker 2: Everything just needs to go down and we need to
Speaker 2: restart a Jels, It has been so nice to actually
Speaker 2: catch up with you. We've done a few dems in
Speaker 2: the past, so this has been nice. To properly chat
Speaker 2: and it's been awesome to have an insight into your
Speaker 2: life behind the scenes of Two Islands and your supermumming life.
Speaker 2: So thank you so much for popping on the podcast.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Well, that was slowed down with Jils Matthews, and that
Speaker 2: was another example of when I hadn't actually upgraded my
Speaker 2: Zoom membership. It was recorded a while actually, and I
Speaker 2: would have loved for that chat to have gone longer,
Speaker 2: but unfortunately I kept getting the little notification saying this
Speaker 2: conversation is about to end, so it did rush a
Speaker 2: little bit towards the end. But some of my big
Speaker 2: tagways from that chat were, I think just reinforcing when
Speaker 2: you look at a successful person, you think they've got
Speaker 2: it all, but the reality is for Jewels, she has
Speaker 2: had to sacrifice, and that sacrifice for.
Speaker 1: Her right now is social life.
Speaker 2: You know, she's putting everything into business and family time
Speaker 2: that she doesn't have the energy for social and you
Speaker 2: have to realize that we can't do everything at once.
Speaker 2: I still love the quote you can have it all,
Speaker 2: you just can't have it at the same time or
Speaker 2: have it now. You can have everything, just not all
Speaker 2: at once.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: So I really liked hearing that honesty from her. Also
Speaker 2: the mantra that she uses this is temporary, which I
Speaker 2: need to repeat to myself all the time, particularly being
Speaker 2: a mom or working and running a business, when you
Speaker 2: have those really hard days, this is temporary, and you
Speaker 2: look back and you wish that.
Speaker 1: You really absorbed it in the moment.
Speaker 2: Going into the newborn phase again, because I've got baby
Speaker 2: number two coming in April, i am so conscious of
Speaker 2: really trying my hardest to remember that this too shall pass.
Speaker 1: I also like.
Speaker 2: That she admitted that she's not into your traditional meditation.
Speaker 1: I think people can get really you know.
Speaker 2: I think it's easy to feel really inferior when people
Speaker 2: talk about the benefits of the time of meditation, and
Speaker 2: for some people it's just not them. So I love
Speaker 2: how she talked about exercise and how that gives her
Speaker 2: that feeling of, you know, freshness and feeling better. So
Speaker 2: meditation looks different on everyone, and maybe a guided meditation
Speaker 2: is a really good option because there are so many apps.
Speaker 2: I use the in Sight timer app, which is great.
Speaker 2: You can you can actually do a timer on there,
Speaker 2: or you can have guided meditations.
Speaker 1: There's lots of music.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's just one of many many apps, so
Speaker 2: you can go check them out that I loved chatting
Speaker 2: with Jewels.
Speaker 1: She has got such good products.
Speaker 2: I literally just tried the Electrolytes last weekend because pregnant
Speaker 2: going into summer and so good. In fact, all their
Speaker 2: products I've tried are really good. If you want to
Speaker 2: see all of the range, you can check out to
Speaker 2: alansco dot com, or if you want to follow more
Speaker 2: of Jewels online, you can check her out at Jules
Speaker 2: Matthews Jules Underscore Matthews on Instagram. Hope you're enjoyed the
Speaker 2: chat and I'll see you next week for another episode.
Speaker 1: Will slow it down